Upper Indus Basin (UIB) Monitoring Working Group Minutes of the Meeting on 30 March 2012 Meeting of the UIB

monitoring working group was held at the campus of Pakistan Metrological Department (PMD), Islamabad on 30 March with Mr. Khalid (KM) Mohtadullah in Chair. List of participants is annexed. The agenda was to discuss the findings of draft report prepared by the PMD based on capacity gaps analysis questionnaire already circulated among the national partners and to develop way forward. After a warm welcome to the participants by Mr. Arif Mahmood, Director General (DG), PMD, Mr. Adnan Shafiq Rana, PMD presented the findings of draft report in the absence of Dr. Ghulam Rasul. Subsequently, the chair opened the floor by inviting comments on the local strengths, weaknesses and the objectives of this coordination on UIB. Discussions, conclusions and decisions are summarised below; Weaknesses 1. Knowledge gaps on types of data available and its uses in different models 2. Many doing many things with no coordination and no knowledge of each other’s capacity assessment with regard to strengths and weakness for future collaboration 3. Mass balance of glaciers and water balance in terms of upper basins and catchments not known 4. Lack of information and data sharing particularly concerning high altitudes between interested stakeholders 5. Scant checks and balances on data quality and discrepancies as per international standards 6. At 3000-5000 m altitude, snow and ice contributions to runoff very much critical but not known 7. High resolution digitized maps and assessment of data needs for these maps not in hand 8. Lack of consistency in data collection 9. Lack of understanding of declining flows because of a little updated information and knowledge on what is happening with ice and snow; why and where? 10. Temperature regimen particularly during summer over Karakorum is different from Eastern Himalayas; why?; to develop future scenarios of glacial receding, expanding etc under the phenomenon of climate change and sensible heat. Interpretation of solar radiation data to answer these questions has not been done. Strengths 1. Lot of data particularly by PMD and WAPDA is available on UIB but needs to be linked with our goal and purpose. 2. There are no big faults in the available data and need only calibration. 3. Quite a few organizations/departments are already in the field and active in UIB

4. Forty to fifty years weather data of Northern Areas is available with WAPDA as its automatic weather stations are generating and collecting data in high altitudes but permission of the Indus Commission is required to share it with others. 5. . If need arises, there is room for accommodating another 900 stations in its network. PMD has ready plans for glaciers monitoring. 6. Many Ph.D. degree programs under Ev-K2-CNR at Karakorum International University are already ongoing to build up capacity at local level. 7. Fourteen different departments using remote sensing indicates good capacity in Pakistan to be tapped for UIB monitoring. Conclusions 1. We should avoid criticism of other national and international institutions with whom we are building partnerships for UIB monitoring 2. We should be mindful where critique ends and criticism begins to spoil atmosphere of collaboration. 3. University of Bonn, PMD and WAPDA should collaborate very closely to fill data gaps. 4. A need for website of this UIB monitoring working group to share data was discussed 5. It was agreed to frame questions for developing a framework for the way forward for UIB monitoring working group. 6. ICIMOD’s role of capacity building was acknowledged. 7. Need of forecasting for future discharge estimates under various scenarios of climate change was emphasised. 8. Fresh brains from academia e.g. universities should be involved in upgrading the inventory of glaciers. 9. There is scientific need for developing credible data bank for hydro met studies and better understanding of the high altitude hydrology and requirements of various organizations like WAPDA and PMD with regard to estimating water availability. Decisions and way forward 1. A committee comprising of working group members of PMD, WAPDA, GCISC and ICIMOD was approved with a mandate to develop a broader framework as a way forward for UIB monitoring working group. 2. This framework shall be prepared within five weeks time and shared with others for moving forward on UIB monitoring task. 3. PMD will share all questionnaires and report based on these questionnaires with all group members. 4. Approved minutes of this meeting will be circulated within a two weeks time by ICIMOD representative. 5. Mr. Winiger’s contributions and interest in supporting this initiative was greatly appreciated, and it was recognised that his continued interest and support will greatly help in achieving our objectives.

Meeting ended with a vote of thanks to the Director General, PMD for being a generous host. Thanks were extended to all members who travelled from other cities on a short notice to join this forum for the cause of UIB monitoring.

Mr. Khalid Mohtadullah, Chair, UIB Monitoring Working Group Cell: +92-300 8440960

Annexure 1 Meeting of UIB Monitoring working Group Meeting: list of participants 30thmarch 2012
S. No. 1 2 Name Abdul Wahid Jasra Dr. M. Asif khan Address ICIMOD Pakistan office, Islamabad National Centre of Excellence in Geology, NCEG-P University of Peshawar, Peshawar Department of geography, University of Bonn, Germany Ev-K2-CNR / Seed Project. House # 3A,Street # 55,F7/4,Islamabad Pakistan Meteorological Department Headquarters Office Sector H-8/2, Islamabad, Pakistan International Water Management Institute, IWMI Pakistan Office, 12 KM, Multan Road, Chowk Thokar Niaz Baig, Lahore Pakistan Meteorological Department Headquarters Office Sector H-8/2, Islamabad, Pakistan Global Change Impact Studies Centre National Centre GCISC, National Centre for Physics Complex (NCP)Near Quaid-e-Azam University Campus, Shahdara, Islamabad Global Change Impact Studies Centre National Centre GCISC, National Centre for Physics Complex (NCP)Near Quaid-e-Azam University Campus, Contact no. 051-9255003 Fax: 051-9255005 091-9216767 Mob: 03015946165 Fax: 091-9218183 +49-171-1949791 Email ajasra@icimod.org masifk@upesh.edu.pk


Prof. Dr. Matthias Winiger Raffale Del Cima




Azmat Hayat

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Khalid Mohtadullah

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M. Arif Mahmood



M. Munir sheikh




Ghazanfar Ali




Daniyal Hashmi

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Muhammad Atif wazir Adnan Shafiq Rana

PMD, R&D Islamabad PMD, R&D, Islamabad

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