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Posted by Tina President Obama has wasted millions and millions of taxpayer dollars (adding to the debt) on green energy projects that have failed or are failing. A better leader might have taken a wiser approach to the energy needs of the American people. The recent storm that has devastated the east highlights the need for smart when it comes to energy. George Bush had a smart plan to improve our energy grid. Had it been adopted when it was proposed the conditions for recovery on the east coast today would be much more favorable. The East coast power grid has been in need of upgrade for many years. The L.A.Times reported on the special interest push to defeat Bush's plan: WASHINGTON -- Minnesota environmentalists will taunt and jeer from a block away when President Bush unveils his national energy strategy in St. Paul. A coalition of green groups is expected to purchase TV time to attack the administration manifesto in key markets. Congressional Democrats temporarily commandeered a Capitol Hill gas station to plug their competing energy initiative. For the environmental community--and the Democrats in Congress who support their causes-Thursday's roll-out of the Bush administration's comprehensive energy plan will be the political equivalent of D-day. "The environmental community is going to put more money into this than any other campaign in its history because there is so much at stake," said Phil Clapp, president of the National Environmental Trust. "What they are assembling is an all-out attack on environmental protections." Nasty little creatures, they! What a difference a few years and a change in leadership can make...and not in a good way! The Obama energy policy, praised and heralded by the greens, has left the American people broke and deeply in debt, out of work, paying high energy prices and, if you live in the flooded areas of New Jersey, Atlantic City and other towns and cities affected by Sandy, without much hope for a quick recovery. The American people have an opportunity to change the direction of this country next Tuesday. Romney is prepared to change our energy policy. If you haven't already done so be sure you vote. It's time to get America back on track but we need adults with common sense in leadership positions. Its up to us Pilgrims. The Bush plan document is here. HT: The American Thinker

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Tina, the Bush energy plan was all about sourcing: oil wells in national parks, expanded coal burning, and so on. Nothing in it at all about burying power lines on a huge scale, which that Eastern Seaboard needs to start thinking seriously about. And Tina, if the power plant is flooded ... you're cooked, or froze ... making partisan policy squabbles entirely beside the point.

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norcalblogs.. through North Dakota and into Canada . If the power plant is flooded it will cause one local problem but an upgraded grid would allow for quicker response overall once that problem is fixed. Even if just 10% of the oil is recoverable… at $107 a barrel.Kathryn Herridge on New Evidence. However. and extreme eastern Montana …. rightly. and has the potential to eliminate all American dependence on foreign oil.. and the oil's done peaked." It's called R&D. Sustainable: Think Chico has a lot of School Gardens? Think again. the Montana Legislature’s financial analyst. but a nation that don't pursue it would be a very foolish nation. And My Dog Freddy Chico. but a nation that don't pursue it would be a very foolish nation. If you read the proposal you will find it includes proposals for upgrading the grids in the east.com/energy/2011/01/oil-oil-and-more-oil-america-has-more-than-any-othernation-376642. 2005 President Bush 2/19 . And if THAT didn’t throw you on the floor. “When I first briefed legislators on this. It is more than 2 TRILLION barrels.Largest Reserve in the World Stansberry Report Online – 4/20/2006 Hidden 1. "Where HAVE you been? Breathing burning coal makes you sick. Afghanistan Disaster global warming GOP Homeland security http://www. Subscribe to this blog's feed About this Entry This page contains a single entry by Post Scripts published on November 1. For years. those billions of barrels will cost Americans just $16 PER BARREL! That’s enough crude to fully fuel the American economy for 2041 years straight.. They will be running out of gas. for the time being. for putting a dilettante in charge of FEMA resulting in the horror that was the Super Dome. The larger point is the stupidity of throwing money at alternative energy companies that are now either bankrupt or failing badly or the stupidity of blocking coal and oil production. and we now have access of up to 500 billion barrels. so far." Bush was criticized. S.. But it won't last. It's time to look into other options. but man was it big.html 8. It’s a formation known as the Williston Basin . http://beforeitsnews." Where HAVE you been? Breathing burning coal makes you sick..000 feet beneath the surface of the Rocky Mountains lies the largest untapped oil reserve in the world.. Top Military Officers Fired is the next entry in this blog. It's time to look into other options. you could practically see their jaws hit the floor. And then they will misbehave. Nope. There are indications today that lots of people are failing to come to terms with the fact that their "normal" life is over . maybe. sweet oil. Even the ‘Big Oil’ companies gave up searching for major oil wells decades ago. in California (both have had brown outs and they've had blackouts in the east) and in other areas around the country. and the oil's done peaked. Oil Discovery. food and cash. 2012 11:02 PM | Reply Libby: "It's called R&D. "Before you go preaching about partisan politics and natural disaster remind your self of the despicable campaign to destroy Bush over Katrina. western South Dakota. but is more commonly referred to as the ‘Bakken. a recent technological breakthrough has opened up the Bakken’s massive reserves….. “This sizable find is now the highest-producing onshore oil field found in the past 56 years.html The U. On August www. Warning was "Specific" and "Direct" .” reports The Pittsburgh Post Gazette .com/post_scripts/2012/11/bush-had-a-plan-to-upgrad. ". 2012 10:59 A M.. Tina | November 1. oil exploration has been considered a dead end. Before you go preaching about partisan politics and natural disaster remind your self of the despicable campaign to destroy Bush over Katrina. Find recent content on the main index or look in the archives to find all content. and are about to become extremely uncomfortable. we’re looking at a resource base worth more than $5…3 trillion. S. U." Since it is R&D "a nation" that doesn't leave it to the private sector to bear the costs and face the risk is being foolish with the people's money! Our leaders have a fiduciary responsibility that should dissuade them from taking risks on such projects or incurring the debt that failure inevitably brings.. Benghazi was the previous entry in this blog. then this next one should – because it’s from 2006! U… S. or the stupidity of blocking coal and oil production. Another important point is the special interest politics that blocked improvements that would put Americans in a better position today. and it is risky.POST SCRIPTS Tag Cloud Not true Libby. Obama put a professional in the post and. POST SCRIPTS: Hillary Clinton Video Story on Benghazi Made 16+ Minutes Before Incident? POST SCRIPTS: Rubio on Republican Agenda Libby | November 1. They had no idea…” says Terry Johnson.’ It stretches from Northern Montana . 2012 3:11 PM | Reply "The larger point is the stupidity of throwing money at alternative energy companies . It was a revised report (hadn’t been updated since 1995) on how much oil was in this area of the western 2/3 of North Dakota . they've been really lucky.. More On Benghazi.com/post_scripts/ immigration joke marijuana Meg Whitman Obama Peter King racism reloading socialized medicine weight loss #1 .Dems & Greens Blocked It .223 arizona healthcare Categories More NorCalBlog Entries Watts Up With That: ENSO 2013 – Boy or Girl? Watts Up With That: Why El Niño and not the AMO? Sow There!: Bare-root planting helps blur the gray From outside the box: On Moving. check THIS out: The Bakken is the largest domestic oil discovery since Alaska ’s Prudhoe Bay . and it is risky. The Energy Information Administration (EIA) estimates it at 503 billion barrels. Some thousands of rather stupid Brooklyners actually thought they were going to be able to take busses into Manhattan today.1/18/13 Bush Had a Plan to Upgrade Eastern Power Grid .. Yard Sales." Where have YOU been! Oil has not peaked. And because this is light. Geological Service issued a report in April 2008 that only scientists and oil men knew was coming.norcalblogs. Maybe Monday .

On August 8.com/search? q=hurricane+sandy+global+warming&rlz=1C1TSNP_enUS487US487&oq=hurricane+sandy+global+warming&sugexp=chrome.1/18/13 Bush Had a Plan to Upgrade Eastern Power Grid . In three and a half years of high oil prices none has been extracted. Thousands of coal miners have lost their jobs unnecessarily.org/publications/bulletin/2007issues/0915/Mrb07cp5.. for putting a dilettante in charge of FEMA resulting in the horror that was the Super Dome. With this motherload of oil why are we still fighting over off-shore drilling? They reported this stunning news: We have more oil inside our borders. you can go ahead. A lot of the so called R&D the government has subsidized have been a complete debacle.asp The deep-gas theory presumes that there are vast amounts of hydrocarbons in the earth at depths far in excess of the ability of man to drill for.com/post_scripts/2012/11/bush-had-a-plan-to-upgrad.norcalblogs. It is more than 2 TRILLION barrels.. since these sources continually rise to the surface in metered amounts. http://www.and less opportunistic. Here are the official estimates: . or how it would make us safer from future climate catastrophes. "Bush was criticized.. the raw sewage and the shortage of energy this is going to turn into a hellish situation. FEMA is a bureaucracy.a flyover inspection would have been more thoughtful. www. required local responders to stop and handle his security requirements when they could be helping those in need.and Obama will be praised for his brilliance by the sycophants in the media. The Bummer man didn't let this crisis go to waste. but this is no obstacle to exploiting them. but you’ll go bankrupt." If you think that then you should also hold Obama responsible for the deaths in Benghazi and whatever problems come down the pike (and they will) after Sandy.Dems & Greens Blocked It .Obama's so-called "professional" will not run it any better than Brown did. reports The Denver Post .html 3/19 . Evidence for the abiogenic theory is of seven main types: (continues) And finally. "Other " options were being explored before this dim bulb took office and they will be explored after he's gone.. we are letting a small group of people dictate our lives and our economy….500-times as much oil as Yemen . than all the other proven reserves on earth. and dragging his security needs behind him. Between the looters.google. There is growing evidence that global warming played a role in the severity of the hurricane. lead researcher with the study says we’ve got more oil in this very compact area than the entire Middle East -more than 2 TRILLION barrels untapped. HOW can this BE? HOW can we NOT BE extracting this? Because the environmentalists and others have blocked all efforts to help America become independent of foreign oil! Again.mod=0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF8 I don't see how Bush's energy plan. 2005 President Bush mandated its extraction. or even sample them. Chris | November 2.. I understand another storm is brewing too (God help them). I won't hold my breath on either count. would make things better for the victims of Hurricane Sandy. the coal industry has already cleaned up its act in terms of pollutants and is willing to do more as it can.WHY? James Bartis. It does not appreciate the extreme position of Barack Hussein Obama who said about the coal industry four years ago...22-times as much oil as Iran . It is better left to those who know the industry and have the resources to "explore" the alternatives without putting the American taxpayer in debt.. Some of those exploring the alternatives are those in the oil and gas industries.18-times as much oil as Iraq . "... He jumped at the chance to look "presidential" even though going to the area. That’s more than all the proven oil reserves of crude oil in the world today.and it’s all right here in the Western United States .if you build a coal plant. rightly.." And he meant it! He has designed EPA restrictions to be so costly and burdensome that coal plants are closing as a result and all plans for building new more modern plants have been scrapped.8-times as much oil as Saudi Arabia ..POST SCRIPTS reserve in the world. Also oil is a renewable resource: http://metaresearch. What a doofus.. the rats. His is a cold and calculating approach and it has been bad for most of America. which would have accelerated global warming.21-times as much oil as Kuwait . 2012 10:39 AM | Reply What is your basis for the claim that "conditions for recovery on the east coast today would be much more favorable" if the Bush plan had passed? I think it's important to note that one of the concerns cited by the opposition to the Bush plan was global warming.

As Jon Stewart has pointed out. saying that he was actually talking about how the president could have gotten more "milage" out of this tragedy: "The President should have just—he could have just made a comment while he was in Florida that says. and said “And by the way. Christie. Would I be correct in surmising that you support alternative energy and perhaps even hate the oil industry? If so we are not at all surprised that you think his plan "sucked".. 92% of green energy investments under Obama have been successful. Brown's slow. In other words. The document you link to is a report by the Department of Energy.com/blogs/lookout/ex-fema-director-michael-brown-criticizes-obama-reacting202803013. while only 78% were successful. the rats. commandeering military cargo planes. you actually have information that would show that the Bush proposal "sucked" we'd love to discuss it.thedailyshow.html But Brown has already backed down from that criticism. portable power sources. Obama's comerades in the lamestream media like Chris Christie. 2012 11:54 AM | Reply Chris I have to leave now but will reply later tonight. “you know my FEMA director is on top of this and we’re gonna do everything we can when the states ask us to come in and help.washingtonpost. as we all know. suspending obstructive legislation .and Obama will be praised for his brilliance by the sycophants in the media. He has criticized the president for acting too "quickly" in response to the hurricane. bumbling and inefficient response to Katrina is the model we should all aspire to: http://news.”" http://thinkprogress.. Bob McDowell and Matthew Dowd.” Boom. the Bush plan sucked and needed to be scrapped. not what was in the Bush plan. 2012 11:37 AM | Reply By the best sources. Charan Pagan | November 2. Charan Pagan.. he peaked too soon.com/politics/decision2012/storm-provides-obama-with-a-commander-inchief-moment/2012/10/30/5e645952-22c2-11e2-ac85-e669876c6a24_story_1. I don’t. http://www." When asked by Sirota whether he had any substantive criticism of the Obama administration’s response. refusing to politicize the hurricane and giving credit where credit is due. the failure rate for green energy companies that have received stimulus money is only 8% (not. Don't they know there is an election coming?! http://www. I'm damned impressed. Cuomo. very presidentially. www.norcalblogs.yahoo. And then he could have stepped up. O’Donnell [sic] – all of them make whatever statements they were going to make.html R.org/politics/2012/10/31/1114891/brown-says-obama-should-have-squeezedmore-political-mileage/ This might seem to add even further embarassment to Brown's legacy. Brown replied “the answer is: no." Yes.. tell me more about how much better Mitt Romney and the private sector are at investing than President Obama and the government.POST SCRIPTS (This is your cue to make yourself look foolish by pretending global warming isn't real...” I think he would have gotten more mileage out of it. "Between the looters.html 4/19 .. but he is. 2012 12:17 PM | Reply "FEMA is a bureaucracy. To put that in perspective. Libby replied to comment from Tina | November 2. Brown seems to agree with you.. … He would have been better served politically to let everybody else—Bloomberg. however. and somehow made it even worse. But I can see where you'd be sad. "FEMA is a bureaucracy.com/post_scripts/2012/11/bush-had-a-plan-to-upgrad. Corralling private sector.Obama's so-called "professional" will not run it any better than Brown did.1/18/13 Bush Had a Plan to Upgrade Eastern Power Grid . Call for their evacuations. If. but it's nothing that can't be solved by him never speaking in public again.Dems & Greens Blocked It . Because. I have instructed my FEMA director to give the states whatever they need as the storm approaches." Ah. 22% of companies that Bain Capital invested in while Romney led the firm went bankrupt.com/watch/thu-october-25-2012/picking-winners---losers But please. those who bought into the climate change lie are often against common sense approaches to our energy and infrastructure needs and you don't mind throwing other peoples money down a rat hole to pursue alternatives that have not been proven or perfected. the raw sewage and the shortage of energy this is going to turn into a hellish situation. on the other hand. Tina | November 2.) Your claims about Obama and green energy are breathtakingly dishonest.Obama's so-called "professional" will not run it any better than Brown did. 2012 11:51 AM | Reply Thanks for expressing your opinion R.. Were you being deceptive intentionally or was that a mistake? Tina | November 2. What a bunch of traitors. as Mitt Romney has ludicrously claimed. "half").." Well.

com/2011/apr/04/local/la-me-climate-berkeley-20110404 http://www. That's a better success rate than Bain Capital's. Not Blankets Or Clothes. http://www.politifact.1/18/13 Bush Had a Plan to Upgrade Eastern Power Grid .. Residents Furious RED CROSS Offering Cookies & Hot Chocolate.all I expect is that those serving America be judged by the media using the same yardstick.forbes. It is you who is letting irrational bias cloud your judgment. bought the entire spin that after something like this it is possible to take all the misery away. 2012 12:34 PM | Reply Tina: "those who bought into the climate change lie" When 97-98% of currently publishing climate scientists agree that climate change is real and caused by human activity. You can read all of these articles simply by going to The Drudge Report: http://www.. As I have recently written.....com/global-warming-scientific-consensus-basic. Restaurant. while 92% are still up and running. 'Finding bodies left and right'.com/sites/jamestaylor/2012/10/31/leave-it-to-the-global-warming-alarmists-tomake-fake-lemonade-out-of-hurricane-sandy/ As Hurricane Sandy prepared to strike the Northeast. this "war on coal" crap is easily disproven by the fact that coal production and coal jobs in Ohio are up since the Bush administration. represented a mere 1.. Tempers Rise in Wake of Storm." Again...norcalblogs..)" Could you be any more arrogant and childish? Those interested in an alternative adult opinion can read these articles: http://www.. The headlines this evening: Drivers Waiting 6 Hours For Gas in NYC. CHUCK SCHUMER CONFRONTED: 'We Are Gonna Die!' Utility workers pelted with eggs. Also.and you. then the best bet is that it is not a lie. money has not been thrown "down a rate hole.deseretnews.drudgereport. Jet Fuel Supply Fast Becoming Concern At Airports.....com/post_scripts/2012/11/bush-had-a-plan-to-upgrad.htm http://articles. 2012 8:54 PM | Reply Chris: "(This is your cue to make yourself look foolish by pretending global warming isn't real. Developing. but. http://www. Staten Islanders Plead for Help: 'We Need Food'.. like a fool. VIDEO: Stranded New Yorkers Defecating in Apartment Buildings.. Solyndra....actual science..4% of the Dept. climate scientists from alarmist and skeptical camps alike reported the storm had little if anything to do with global warming... NJ counties enact 70s style gas rationing..Dems & Greens Blocked It ..... Tina | November 2..... (Oh dear) DIRE. 2012 7:39 PM | Reply Libby by the time the weekend is over you may be more than embarrassed. 'Please don't leave us'. hotel prices skyrocket. Martin www.skepticalscience. of Energy's investment in renweable technologies.html?pg=all "are often against common sense approaches to our energy and infrastructure needs and you don't mind throwing other peoples money down a rat hole to pursue alternatives that have not been proven or perfected.say by a President showing up for a photo op. Tina | November 2. not those who acknowledge the reality climate change and the need for government investments in alternative energy... 'We have nothing'.latimes... Misery.com/article/700085458/Global-warming-consensus-matters.html 5/19 ..com/ At this point in the aftermath of Katrina George Bush and FEMA were already being demeaned and excoriated because they hadn't "done enough" to "help those poor people".POST SCRIPTS Chris | November 2. 8% of the companies the Obama administration has invested in have gone bankrupt." Your favorite target..com/ohio/statements/2012/oct/31/sherrod-brown/sherrod-brown-says-coaljobs-and-coal-production-b/ Now back to your regularly scheduled fearmongering narrative.

com/list-of-failed-obama-green-energy-solar-companies/ "As Jon Stewart has pointed out.norcalblogs. identified by the Post as "an Obama fundraising bundler" who "served part time" on an Energy Department advisory board and "communicated with senior White House officials. A list of failed companies and other information is in the following article (scroll down for list)." The Post reported that Westly's firm "fared well in the agency's distribution of loans and grants. has been an investor in "several firms" that raked $550 million in federal money. it would not be unusual at all for the earth to continue to cool for a period. while ignoring the context of historical temperature change. as the Washington Post did with this week's story outlining the shady Obama links to the clean-energy industry and implying the administration has engaged in first-class corruption.. Brad DeLong. Its portfolio companies received $600 million in funding.html Regardless of the claims and protestations of Obama." Also appearing in emails examined by the Post was David Prend. Paul Krugman. temperatures have been flat to cooling." Named in the story is Sanjay Wagle. Both frequent the west Atlantic in October…nothing unusual with that. Vantage Point Venture Partners. leftist-totalitarian progressives. rather 0 for $6 T(r)illion in taxpayer debt." Prend's company. as the Greenland ice cores reveal.com/2010/03/despite-20th-century-minor-warming-ice-cores-indicate-earthis-still-cooling-since-the-minoan-period. had invested. for instance. and who oversees NOAA’s Climate Scene Investigators. And since 1998. nor have there been indications of a change in their statistical behavior over this region in recent decades. observed. Robert Mugabe.. the immediate cause is most likely little more that the coincidental alignment of a tropical storm with an extratropical storm.scientists simply don't know which way temperatures are headed.9 billion in federal grants and financing flowed to 21 companies backed by firms with connections to five Obama administration staffers and advisers.com/ibd-editorials/021612-601508-obama-green-energy-scandal-growsdeeper. Despite the warming blip from the mid-1970's to the late 1990's. and other radical. "venture capitalist" and "Obama fundraiser" who joined the Energy Department. And as we have all witnessed.” http://www. sometimes an outlet surprises us.and please keep in mind that we are talking about taxpayer money not private money. the failure rate for green energy companies that have received stimulus money is only 8%" Jon Stewart huh? Big whoop. tell me more about how much better Mitt Romney and the private sector are at investing www.." And there's Steven Spinner.. nor would it be unusual for it to resume its warming since the Little Ice Age .dividedstates. we find Steve Westly.htm While the legacy media often shills for Democrats. Gordon Brown. “neither the frequency of tropical or extratropical cyclones over the North Atlantic are projected to appreciably change due to climate change. Osama bin Laden. Hugo Chavez.there is a very BIG difference: http://www. this newest form of the voodoo science has resulted in the recent years of wild catastrophic climate predictions that never seem to happen. On rare occasions their timing is such as to result in an interaction which can lead to an extreme event along the eastern seaboard. a "bundler of Obama campaign contributions who. http://www. which "provided $2.” … …Hoerling further explained. To hyperventilate about current temperatures.dividedstates. (click image to enlarge) The hysterical response to the recent warming by liberal-leftists is indicative of an agenda approach to science and history.com/list-of-failed-obama-green-energy-solar-companies/ Your record is 0 for 300. who chairs the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s (NOAA’s) climate variability research program. Prend is linked. The earth constantly experiences extended periods of natural warming and cooling that significantly impacts the overall climate. Going deeper.html 6/19 . depending on which part of the world one lives in..Dems & Greens Blocked It . Post reporters. lacking in both rational and empirical attributes.investors. another venture capital investor with "White House access. became an adviser at the Energy Department where he "pushed hard" for the Solyndra loan. we do know the Northern Hemisphere has been locked in a long-term cooling cycle that goes back some 3." we noted last fall.c3headlines. the bankrupt electric-car battery company given a $118 million government grant. Tom Friedman.4 billion in public funding to clean-energy companies in which Wagle's former firm. Rockport Capital Partners.000+ years. The crony capitalism in this flagrant spending is also disgusting (Obama against it in 2008) http://news..1/18/13 Bush Had a Plan to Upgrade Eastern Power Grid . is best described as voodoo science. to Ener1. the recent global warming that ceased since 1998 was not that unusual. Spinner is also married to a partner in the law firm that represented Solyndra.you!) "But please. TAXPAYER MONEY! (Or debt to be born by.com/post_scripts/2012/11/bush-had-a-plan-to-upgrad. “In this case.POST SCRIPTS Hoerling. as well. Kevin Rudd. "found that $3.

by definition..org has a somewhat different estimate.. your source fails to compare the number that have failed with the number that have succeeded. -It claims the “inspector general said contracts were steered to ‘friends and family.com/post_scripts/2012/11/bush-had-a-plan-to-upgrad.” no public charges have been made. badly.. at least not yet." The government doesn't "invest".S. But that still leaves billions of dollars that went to companies run by or primarily owned by Obama financial backers.” But 26 companies received loan guarantees under a loan program cited by Romney. Chris | November 3.. at 89% green investment success (which is still pretty damn good): "Romney falsely claimed “about half” of the clean-energy companies that received U. Neither had a plan for such an event nor did they know what to do when it happened. or that the projects backed by DOE are largely moving along as planned.POST SCRIPTS than President Obama and the government. flowed from the poor response of the governor and the mayor (both Democrats). nose-diving stock and layoffs — at several companies that received substantial Department of Energy loans and grants. The three firms were approved for about 6 percent of the loan guarantees.1/18/13 Bush Had a Plan to Upgrade Eastern Power Grid .and please keep in mind that we are talking about taxpayer money not private money. Obama.org/blog/2012/05/25/marc-thiessen-distorts-success-rate-of-clean-en/186692 "The crony capitalism in this flagrant spending is also disgusting (Obama against it in 2008)" There was no crony capitalism. who you just mocked. that most of the layoffs at those companies were overseas. most of the loans were fairly low-risk.. That's not "adult" argumentation. and history... Tina.) Furthermore. simply because you have a political agenda. Payola? One might expect that a healthy percentage of owners of green-energy companies might lean Democratic. If you think it is even remotely accurate to call Osama bin Laden a "leftist" or "progressive. completely ignoring the fact that a scientific consensus exists. Obama needed the photo op badly so he flew to New Jersey like the self-centered progressive he is.Dems & Greens Blocked It .org: "An ad from the Romney campaign strains facts to make its point that federal grants and loans to green-energy companies were improperly steered to Obama’s political backers." Well. Regarding Brown. and the media will give Obama and his director a pass because he is a Democrat. And in the year since he said he was investigating such alleged “schemes..its a bureaucracy and it will function as a bureaucracy." www. is he wrong? FactCheck. -The ad uses an inflated figure from a partisan source to quantify loans and grants that went to Obama donors. and three of those have filed for bankruptcy. Al Qaeda is...org/2012/10/romneys-clean-energy-whoppers/ "A list of failed companies and other information is in the following article (scroll down for list).’ ” But that’s not exactly what the inspector general said." http://www. The ad fails to note.there is a very BIG difference:" Unlike Jon Stewart. The real problems in Katrina. FEMA. Brown is a victim of the vindictive smear machine media and he would have been such if the day after Katrina the entire area was back to normal.norcalblogs. Some went to Republican donors as well.-backed loans “have gone out of business. 2012 10:43 AM | Reply Tina: "Could you be any more arrogant and childish?" Yes.. -The ad highlights the struggles — company losses. and that federal money was wasted on failing companies that are now laying off employees. and many of them have been sold to private equity firms responsible for paying back the loans: http://mediamatters. It is extremely arrogant and childish to pretend to know more than 98% of climate scientists on this issue. The question is whether those federal dollars were improperly or unfairly steered to donors in a quid pro quo arrangement. ..factcheck. That article takes the dishonest tactic of implying that only Bad People We Don't Like believe in global warming.html 7/19 . From FactCheck.We found Schweizer’s $16. it's an appeal to ignorance. An independent review of the DOE program says its failure rate has been better than anticipated. however. "Those interested in an alternative adult opinion can read these articles:" One of the articles you linked to groups our president in with Osama bin Laden as "leftist-totalitarian progressives!" That is an "adult opinion" to you? You shame yourself. I could be a global warming denier. and you are not qualified to give an "adult opinion" on any of these topics. a radical far-right movement." then you simply lack a 12th grade literacy of politics. (You always have had trouble understanding that percentages matter. "Jon Stewart huh? Big whoop.it spends! If you can't see that difference there is no point in discussing it further. so it’s not surprising that some loans and grants went to companies run by Democratic donors. other than the structural problems with the levies and the criminal element. sociology.4 billion claim to be too high by nearly $6 billion.

Others are also struggling with potential problems. Hitler. badly..... http://startthinkingright. “ Is it? Let’s see…this radical movement wants government control over every aspect of life: social..com/2012/01/23/fascism-a-socialist-leftwing-ideologycommunism-fascism-labor-unions-workers-and-students-exploiting-crisis/ “The influence of Marxist scholarship has severely distorted our understanding of fascism. simply because you have a political agenda.it spends! If you can't see that difference there is no point in discussing it further. You assume my position is based on politics rather than the opinions of scientists. Tina.and we are NOT talking pennies! Here’s one example from media: http://www. Modern Fascism: Liquidating the Judeo-Christian Worldview. students and artists in their Occupy movement.a home state project personally endorsed by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid -.. business and financial. as well as workers.Dems & Greens Blocked It . Communism and fascism were rival brands of socialism. [And in fact. And in fact we have both the Nazis and the Communists joining the labor unions and the intelligentsia. highly regarded experts in the field. . Tina | November 3.. Five have filed for bankruptcy: The junk bond-rated Beacon. You assume that the 98% of scientists you believe is made up of scientists that are experts in the field. and the media will give Obama and his director a pass because he is a Democrat. which had special appeal for the intelligentsia..lst. “ A. something that is much more closely aligned to progressive thinking than it is conservatism.1/18/13 Bush Had a Plan to Upgrade Eastern Power Grid . students. Can you name a handful of successful green energy companies that received loans or money from Obama? I haven’t heard him tout any specifically but I have heard about a lot that have failed or are failing and have sent tax money to other countries.cbsnews.2 CBS News counted 12 clean energy companies that are having trouble after collectively being approved for more than $6." Are you honestly saying that Gov. You ignore the evidence put forward by scientists that don’t share the so-called consensus view of the 98%. All of the totalitarian leaders of the 20th Century shared similar socialist goals…Marx.. You assume that these scientists are in it for science rather than politics and/or money. It was already having trouble paying the bills when it www. F. fascist national socialism promoted a socialism centered in national unity. C.. Sayyed Ali Khamenei.more left wing than right wing. SpectraWatt. religious. and artists. Both attacked the conservatives. If you are committed to the unreasonable position that government investment is literally impossible. then we can't have a reasonable discussion. Lenin. “Al Qaeda is. Evergreen Solar. Chris Christie is praising Obama because he is a Democrat? Jesus.norcalblogs.POST SCRIPTS Tina: "Regarding Brown. Whereas Marxist socialism is predicated on an international class struggle. Idi Amin." This is such a crazy and idiotic position. And we’re seeing this happen on a scale that the world has not seen since the WWI (Soviet communism) and WWII (Nazi fascism) eras.] Fascists saw themselves as being neither of the right nor the left.its a bureaucracy and it will function as a bureaucracy.wordpress.we’re seeing these same forces that gave us first communism and then fascism banding (perhaps “mobbing” is a better verb) together to produce the same inevitable results." Going on. FEMA. Mussolini. They were different faces of socialist ideology and method. Engels. 26]. by definition. Jr.5 billion in federal assistance. They believed that they constituted a third force synthesizing the best of both extremes” [Gene Edward Veith. That is big government in spades.com/post_scripts/2012/11/bush-had-a-plan-to-upgrad. [And finally.. Both were mass movements. Robert Mugabee. If Chris Christie is praising the president the week of the election. Sadam Hussein…the list goes on. Slobodon Melosevic. and governmental. Pol Pot..warns of multiple potential defaults in new SEC filings reviewed by CBS News. RE: Obama’s green energy failures: You have offered percentages without naming a single company. You ignore the evidence that key points in the man made warming theory don’t hold up because key members in the 98% didn’t follow the scientific method in their work…they doctored evidence and attempted to control peer review.. Both movements were "revolutionary socialist ideologies. 2012 9:47 PM | Reply Chris: “It is extremely arrogant and childish to pretend to know more than 98% of climate scientists on this issue.com/8301-505263_162-57358484/tax-dollars-backing-some-risky-energyprojects/?tag=mncol.] Both communists and fascists opposed the bourgeoisie. it's because he's doing a damn good job! "The government doesn't "invest". AES' subsidiary Eastern Energy and Solyndra. legal. p. Castro. a radical far-right movement. B. D. Nevada Geothermal -. Obama. E. Mao.html 8/19 . Both favored strong centralized governments and rejected the free economy and the ideals of individual liberty. that I guess there is no point in discussing this further. You assume I am pretending when I am not. .

opposite the message received on Thursday. it is an expense or it becomes debt which is future liability. AREVA is now a “go” (seems on Friday POTUS himself approved moving it ahead). LPO Executive Director Jonathan Silver encourages LPO Credit Advisor Jim McCrea to remind a Treasury official of White House Interest in now bankrupt Abound Solar: "You better let him know that WH wants to move Abound forward. and faced technical difficulties. 2010. since it can print money or place the burden of www.” Also.” “Are you honestly saying that Gov.norcalblogs.POST SCRIPTS received $98. Embarrassment after embarrassment has come to light as the projects touted as the hope for America’s future have filed for bankruptcy. On its last financial statement. I’ve been reporting on.5 million in Energy Department loan guarantees. he said: “I am aware of no communication from White House to Department of Energy saying to make the loan or to restructure. SunPower landed a deal linked to a $1. and White House and DOE officials. something you should consider…it is your future! When government takes money from its citizens and uses that money to prop up a company it is not an investment... on October 26.1/18/13 Bush Had a Plan to Upgrade Eastern Power Grid .. On its last financial statement. Chris Christie is praising Obama because he is a Democrat?” I never mentioned Chris Christie. that are made by the Department of Energy. SunPower's role is to design. Energy Secretary Steven Chu. . along with researcher Christine Lakotos. as private investors do.” However. So why did we. but only 7% were approved—26 projects were funded. by the way. 2010 from David Schmitzer. then we can't have a reasonable discussion. Despite the obvious connection. SunPower owed more than it was worth. President Obama has repeatedly denied any involvement—preferring to blame “career bureaucrats” who could take the fall with no political consequence. cover ups. President Obama deflects blame—pointing to “career bureaucrats” in the Department of Energy (DOE) who supposedly approved the loans that have become an embarrassment to the White House.2 billion loan guarantee last fall. then.com/post_scripts/2012/11/bush-had-a-plan-to-upgrad. none the less.even as taxpayers were forced to back a whopping $3 billion in company loans.com/columnists/maritanoon/2012/11/01/emails_catch_white_house_lie_on_greenenergy_loans/page/full/ When he is confronted about the failed green-energy loan program. Secretary Chu. after a French oil company took it over.. First Solar was the biggest S&P 500 loser in 2011 and its CEO was cut loose .” http://finance. “If you are committed to the unreasonable position that government investment is literally impossible. SunPower owed more than it was worth.” The emails reveal a series of questionable practices. including coercion. the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform released a new report of “over 150 emails that contradict statements by the President. The government also takes no risk. Of those 26 projects 22 were junk-bond rated—meaning private investors wouldn’t fund them. . The government will not realize profits or incur losses from the product or service of the company. The 1705 loan guarantee program had 460 applicants. we were discussing FEMA and bureaucracy. Policy will have to wait unless they have a specific policy problem with abound. In March. For months. cronyism and.Some of the incriminating evidence includes the following: From an email dated March 1. first. back in November 2011.” Just last week. DOE LPO Director of Loan Origination to LPO Credit Advisor McCrea and others: “Jonathan just said at our staff meeting that.. President Obama affirmed Chu’s position when he said: “Decisions made in the loan program office are decisions.html 9/19 . sent money and jobs overseas. 2010 from LPO Credit Advisor McCrea to DOE contractor Brian Oakley: "Pressure is on real heavy on SF [Shepherds Flat] due to interest from VP. testified that. the taxpayers? Our research showed that at least 90% of the projects had close ties to the White House and other high ranking Democrats. the failed and troubled stimulus funded companies.townhall. “We looked at the loans on their own merits. Solyndra was just the tip of the iceberg. “There was no crony capitalism. build and initially operate and maintain the California Valley Solar Ranch Project that's the subject of the loan guarantee. late Wednesday.Dems & Greens Blocked It .the company will. the junk-bond rated projects (such as Solyndra) that received fast-tracked approval from the DOE and.” From an email dated June 25. “ I told you there was no point in discussing it but it is. they have nothing to do with politics.” From an email dated September 9..

its scientists concluded that those who were skeptical of global warming “do not offer convincing arguments. 82% of the scientists answered yes.s — come from a petition by the George C. That is socialist thinking.000 “leading” scientists — 9. and 7% had master’s degrees.s. Of scientists who were non-climatologists and didn't publish research. an outfit funded by hundreds of thousands of dollars from Exxon-Mobil that has helped create uncertainty over scientific consensus on global warming. now recognize a human contribution to global warming and have largely dropped financial support to groups challenging the science.htm "C.com/article/20101228/NEWS20/101228012/Fact-checker-Don-t-see-consensus-globalwarming-Look-past-Fox-News "D.rgj. Marshall Institute.skepticalscience.5% of climatologists who actively publish research on climate change responded yes. You assume my position is based on politics rather than the opinions of scientists.com/post_scripts/2012/11/bush-had-a-plan-to-upgrad. and it's not a "so-called" consensus.J.000 saying they have Ph. like Exxon Mobil. However. Calling this kind of government spending an “investment” is purely political. To qualify as one of the world’s “leading” scientists.000 of the world’s leading scientists. 77% answered yes." All 2% of them? Many of the scientists cited by global warming deniers aren't even climate scientists: "Bob Lutz.”" http://www. “In the opinion of about 32.norcalblogs. In contrast. “The scientific basis … is well established and cannot be denied." http://www. The New York Times noted last year. I have seen the evidence from the few actively publishing climatologists who do not believe in global warming. Overall. As the level of active research and specialization in climate science increases. former vice chairman of General Motors. “Hawkeye Pierce” was one of the signatories.rgj. "E. which pressure them to deny: "In one example.. a scientist who received much money from the R. what are most interesting are responses compared to the level of expertise in climate science.POST SCRIPTS the debt on the shoulders of taxpayers (and future taxpayers). Chris | November 4. it's a fact: "Subsequent research has confirmed this result.com/global-warming-scientific-consensus-intermediate. “(Other fossil fuel companies and groups). highly regarded experts in the field. A survey of 3146 earth scientists asked the question "Do you think human activity is a significant contributing factor in changing mean global temperatures?" (Doran 2009). so does agreement that humans are significantly changing global temperatures.possibly superior. said on national television.1/18/13 Bush Had a Plan to Upgrade Eastern Power Grid ." http://www. a fossil-fuel-industry group called the Global Climate Coalition asked its scientists about global warming caused by human activity and they reported back.D. In another instance that came out in court documents.” The 32. 2012 9:13 AM | Reply Tina: "A. You ignore the evidence that key points in the man made warming theory don’t hold up because key members in the 98% didn’t follow the scientific method in their work…they doctored evidence and attempted to control peer review..html 10/19 .com/article/20101228/NEWS20/101228012/Fact-checker-Don-t-see-consensus-globalwarming-Look-past-Fox-News "B.” Not only that.D. You assume that the 98% of scientists you believe is made up of scientists that are experts in the field. Reynolds cigarette company and helped to create uncertainty over medical consensus on the harms of tobacco smoke. 97. You ignore the evidence put forward by scientists that don’t share the so-called consensus view of the 98%. That this government is spending on green energy almost exclusively should be your first clue that something unseemly is afoot…it is simply a political ploy used to control the free market (socialism/fascism/corporatism) and pick who in the market will win and who will lose (totalitarian control). one merely needed to sign the petition." This is not an assumption. and I have also seen their evidence debunked." Debunked: www." I don't ignore it. The petition came with a cover letter by Frederick Seitz. More than 90% of participants had Ph. It is a means to an end..Dems & Greens Blocked It . until the coalition disbanded in 2002. It is designed to confuse people into thinking that government (under our free capitalist system) is equivalent to the private sector." I'd say you could say the same thing about the minority of scientists who deny global warming who are funded by big oil and other corporate interests. yes (global warming is a hoax). You assume that these scientists are in it for science rather than politics and/or money. And anyone could sign it — no affiliation is given so the names can’t be verified.” Despite this internal document — similar to actions by the tobacco industry — the fossil fuel industry continued to sow confusion about climate change.. New Scientist reported on congressional testimony in 2007 about 435 incidents where climate scientists say they were pressured to downplay global warming.convincing the citizens that government control of the private sector is good.

” ECOtality The ad states that San Francisco-based ECOtality has “received $126 million in taxpayer money. Now they’re cutting jobs and their stock is near all-time lows. NRG Energy and Exelon. "RE: Obama’s green energy failures: You have offered percentages without naming a single company. But contrary to a Fox News report that originally ran under the headline “Obama-Funded Solar Firm Lays Off Half Its Workforce” (it was later changed).40 on May 30. and about 12 people per site permanently. "Is it? Let’s see…this radical movement wants government control over every aspect of life. Anyway.. First Solar plans to expand construction there again. The crude graphic in the ad seems to suggest the stock has dropped to $4 per share. the ad states: “Three billion dollars in taxpayer-backed loan guarantees. to NextEra Energy.. universities and government bodies have investigated the stolen emails and found no evidence of wrong doing.norcalblogs. They are not "progressive" by any reasonable definition. economic growth would criticize a great American success story like First Solar. As for U.POST SCRIPTS "A number of independent investigations from different countries. by the way!--in order to make people who agree with the scientific consensus on global warming look bad by association. Al Qaeda is a religious right organization. but most of them have been overseas. but that is still down precipitously from its high of $311. The remainder of the cost of the project is picked up by private investment www.com/Climategate-CRU-emails-hacked.skepticalscience. According to Meyer. said that despite the ad’s implication that First Solar was another Solyndra deal. It's stupid. was awarded a $26." *sigh* I'm not going to get into this with you right now. Lost $45 million.S. Once that issue is resolved. given the alternative. the main point was that you claimed it was an "adult opinion" to group in the president of the United States with the leader of the world's worst terrorist group--which the president had killed. Meyer said. They are not "conservative" in the American sense. he said.” it’s true that the price is lower than it has been in more than six years." http://www. Previously.Dems & Greens Blocked It . As for First Solar stock being “near all-time lows. Those layoffs are wholly unrelated to the three projects funded by DOE. and our success supports almost 10.htm "F.html 11/19 . Meyer said. ECOtality was awarded a $114. religious minorities. So First Solar no longer owns the DOE loan guarantees (though it is building the plants for those companies — so much of the federally guaranteed loan money is certainly flowing its way). Meyer said." It was a generous assumption. more than 90 percent of the staff reductions from the April restructuring of the company were outside the U. It is unrelated to the company restructuring. for every dollar spent by ECOtality. As part of the arrangement. (And got them after spending $2. In October 2011. tens of millions of dollars in exports. First Solar has proven that an American company can compete and win in renewable energy globally. Meyer released this company statement about the ad: “It’s surprising a candidate that claims to support U. purchasing. a spokesman for First Solar.000 American jobs.) After arranging and negotiating financing options. It’s true that First Solar is cutting jobs. energy security. The loans for the projects are backed by long-term contracts from major energy companies in California to purchase the power generated by the solar plants. Those three solar projects will employ about 1. or anyone else who is not them.S.” That’s not quite accurate. that’s just one project First Solar is working on. they do not support rights for women.com/post_scripts/2012/11/bush-had-a-plan-to-upgrad.org has the deets about a lot of the companies that have been targeted by conservatives: First Solar The ad’s first example is First Solar. and is due to an unresolved code issue with the county. It was trading at $13. Tina. and record-setting innovation that reduces pollution and enhances U. a global provider of solar modules. That was shameful.S. ECOtality Inc. merely serves to distract from the wealth of empirical evidence for man-made global warming. the structure of the loans is very different. Ted Meyer. but that’s not accurate. jobs. You assume I am pretending when I am not. Focusing on a few suggestive emails.8 cents. Greentech Media reported First Solar furloughed 120 of its 240 employees at its DOEbacked Antelope Valley solar project in California. the federal government reimburses it 45.8 million grant to install 14. but in the sense that they want to return to a very traditional and regressive model of society. Of First Solar.. taken out of context. more than $1 billion in U.000 electric car chargers in five states.4 million contract from the Department of Energy to conduct advanced vehicle battery testing and evaluation for DOE.S. Can you name a handful of successful green energy companies that received loans or money from Obama?" FactCheck.14 in May 2008.2 million on Washington lobbying since 2007.” It’s true that First Solar secured federal loan guarantees of more than $3 billion for three major solar projects. all three projects were promptly sold.200 people during the three-year construction phase. and currently under investigation..S.1/18/13 Bush Had a Plan to Upgrade Eastern Power Grid .

1/18/13 Bush Had a Plan to Upgrade Eastern Power Grid . the company stated that it was consolidating or closing facilities in Europe “in response to reductions in European government incentives. the net reduction was 41 jobs." You claimed that Obama would be praised undeservedly by the media because he is a Democrat. as expected. according to a public filing with the SEC last November. The government has invested in companies since our country's inception.. “a French company that ranks among the top oil and energy companies in the world. According to SunPower. http://www. the company reported that the first quarter of 2012 was its first profitable quarter. we were discussing FEMA and bureaucracy.Dems & Greens Blocked It . even though you don't think he has done an impressive job. How do you explain that.. 30. As a society. "When government takes money from its citizens and uses that money to prop up a company it is not an investment. the Romney ad targets the solar company SunPower. The Obama administration has also invested heavily in "clean coal:" http://www. less than a third of what the White House anticipated. According to Bloomberg News. the company confirmed that it has received subpoenas from the SEC as part of a fact-finding inquiry related to the trading of shares between Aug.google. planes. So the ad is technically incorrect to say the company has received all of the $126 million. SunPower is now the lead contractor on the project. "I never mentioned Chris Christie. Despite its losses. saying: “More than a billion dollars in loan guarantees. "That this government is spending on green energy almost exclusively should be your first clue that something unseemly is afoot…" It is not exclusively.POST SCRIPTS money from companies like Nissan and GM. that is called a good investment. and Aug. and when completed will generate enough electricity to power 100. That runs counter to your narrative. a company spokeswoman told us. which is why you didn't. scientific achievment. the company has received about $42 million from DOE.com/search? www. I've told you how government has invested in me: because of my financial aid to college. which have had a significant impact on the global solar market. the company posted net losses of $22. the jobs related to the DOE-backed California Valley Solar Ranch are unaffected. These investments have given us railroads.factcheck. Laying off workers. military achievment. the company is under investigation for insider trading. will begin generating 25 megawatts of power by September.000 California homes (and is already contracted to do so).6 percent. According to CBS News.” The number of layoffs ended up being less.” As for SunPower layoffs. wind and bio-energy projects is less than 3.org/2012/06/romneys-solar-flareout/ You link to Townhall to prove that there was crony capitalism. primarily in Italy. company officials said. And SunPower reported an operating loss of $534 million last year. Before any federal funds were released. 2008. That hardly points to a conspiracy.2 million. In addition to these historical investments. it is an expense or it becomes debt which is future liability. but a) Townhall is an extremely biased source and b) it doesn't even show political favoritism! As FactCheck pointed out.com/post_scripts/2012/11/bush-had-a-plan-to-upgrad.2 billion loan guarantee to build the California Valley Solar Ranch Project. NASA. and represented a small fraction of the company’s global workforce. we got more than we spent. Calif. Lost half a billion last year. So NRG is the owner of the loan guarantees and the company responsible for repaying them. but the Recovery Act website reports that the company projected the grant would create 144 jobs. SunPower is financially solvent. most of those layoffs were overseas. 2011. According to company filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.4 million in 2010. More important.norcalblogs.html 12/19 . since Democrats are much more likely to support green energy. who say he is doing a great job. the company did announce that it would be laying off 85 employees. 1.5 million in 2011. the ad doesn’t mention anything about jobs in relation to ECOtality. Also. But on a positive note. But as was the case with First Solar. In its public filing. The plant. the default rate for the DOE’s loans to solar. And he’s straining facts and misquoting a leading investigator as well. I pointed out that he has already recieved the praise of very conservative politicians who don't want Obama to get a second term. To date. and– as the same KGO-TV report cited in the Romney ad notes — the company’s new majority stockholder is Total. and $16. The Heritage Foundation obtained and posted a copy of the subpoena sent to the company’s CEO. a 250-megawatt solar plant in San Luis Obispo County. and together with newly created jobs. But after that.” On Sept. it shouldn't be regarded as strange that a lot of the green companies are run by Democrats. On a decidedly less positive note. the Internet. But it will if the project is completed in 2013. with net income of $1. the ad’s case starts to fall apart." This is just historically ignorant. even with the losses from Solyndra. 31. SunPower sold the project to NRG Energy. more than 350 workers are currently constructing the solar power plant. So Romney is using the same “lemon-picking” strategies that critics of his Bain years use — choosing a few sour specifics to give a misleading picture of the larger reality. streets. Tina? You can't. It is ridiculous to say that government doesn't invest.the list goes on. SunPower Lastly. 2009. I will be able to succeed and give back in the future. SunPower got a $1.

or any other statement in the UN climate reports. Unlike the other IPCC working groups. http://www.com/post_scripts/2012/11/bush-had-a-plan-to-upgrad.Dr Vincent Gray of New Zealand and Dr Ross McKitrick of the University of Guelph. the “Second Order Revision” or SOR) completely debunks the illusion of hundreds of experts diligently poring over all the chapters of the report and providing extensive feedback to the editing teams. not from a tested model”. An example of rampant misrepresentation of IPCC reports is the frequent assertion that “hundreds of IPCC scientists” are known to support the following statement. went missing. only 62 scientists reviewed the chapter in which this statement appears. Professor McKitrick explained “A categorical summary statement like this is not supported by the evidence in the IPCC WG I report.com. Four had vested interests and the other made only a single comment for the entire 11-chapter report.com/dmo88).com/pwexub). Fox Ph. the UN has released on the Web the comments of reviewers who assessed the drafts of the WG I report and the IPCC editors’ responses..D.. Here’s the reality. A total of 308 reviewers commented on the SOR. leaving only seven expert reviewers who appear impartial. but in traditional fuel sources. Tina | November 4. almost 60 per cent of them were rejected by IPCC editors.aspx By Michael R. that is also picking winners and losers.com/nuclear_power_industry_news/b/nuclear_power_news/archive/2009/12/04/mikefoxthe-ipcc-scandal-well-deserved-self-destruction-12042. Canada. 2012 12:11 PM | Reply Chris: "Many of the scientists cited by global warming deniers aren't even climate scientists" Many of your so-called 98% (You have no proof of this percentage) are medical doctors and economists: http://nuclearstreet.Dems & Greens Blocked It . Others forms of CRU corruption are more sophisticated. This release was almost certainly a result of intense pressure applied by “hockey-stick” co-debunker Steve McIntyre of Toronto and his allies..POST SCRIPTS q=clean+coal+investments+obama&rlz=1C1TSNP_enUS487US487&oq=clean+coal+investments+obama&sugexp=chrome.” says Natural Resources Stewardship Project Chair climatologist Dr Timothy Ball. And of the 62 expert reviewers of this chapter. the critical chapter 9. the most important statement of the UN climate reports released this year.1/18/13 8 Bush Had a Plan to Upgrade Eastern Power Grid .html 13/19 . Two of these seven were contacted by NRSP for the purposes of this article .. Only about half the reviewers commented on more than one chapter. “The IPCC owe it to the world to explain who among their expert reviewers actually agree with their conclusions and who don’t. namely “Greenhouse gas forcing has very likely caused most of the observed global warming over the last 50 years”. As Jon Stewart rightly pointed out.norcalblogs. their credibility. One need not spend a working lifetime in science and engineering to appreciate the breath-taking scientific corruption now flooding from the fetid debris of the Climate Research Unit (CRU) scandal at the University of East Anglia in England.mod=0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF"it is simply a political ploy used to control the free market (socialism/fascism/corporatism) and pick who in the market will win and who will lose (totalitarian control). arguably the most important of the WG I report. is nonsense. We must also note that those highly advertised and un-named 2500 IPCC “scientists” who approved of the work done at the IPCC.au/view.An examination of reviewers’ comments on the last draft of the WG I report before final report assembly (i. The claim that 2. . WG I is based in the US and McIntyre had used the robust Freedom of Information legislation to request certain details when the full comments were released. “Understanding and Attributing Climate Change”. 55 had serious vested interest. Concerning the “Greenhouse gas forcing …” statement above.500 independent scientist reviewers agreed with this. did not properly do their review and oversight jobs. Of the comments received from the 62 reviewers of this critical chapter. In total. Evidence shown in the report suggests that other factors play a major role in climate change. Determining the level of support expressed by reviewers’ comments is subjective but a slightly generous evaluation indicates that just five reviewers endorsed the crucial ninth chapter.onlineopinion. Romney has said he will not invest in solar energy.. will be www. and were no where to be seen in these records." Every administration much choose what to invest in.asp?article=7553&page=1 For the first time ever. “Otherwise.” Dr Gray labeled the WG I statement as “Typical IPCC doubletalk” asserting “The text of the IPCC report shows that this is decided by a guess from persons with a conflict of interest. but only 32 reviewers commented on more than three chapters and only five reviewers commented on all 11 chapters of the report. and the specific effects expected from greenhouse gases have not been observed.e. and the public’s trust of science in general. . It is logical that reviewers would generally limit their comments to their areas of expertise but it’s a far cry from the idea of thousands of scientists agreeing to anything. In fact we had earlier learned that even the “2500 IPCC scientists” was just another IPCC hoax (http://tinyurl. The release of about 3000 pages of CRU emails and documents has exposed levels of scientific corruption which would make a Trofim Lysenko blush (http://tinyurl.

” Bush Had a Plan to Upgrade Eastern Power Grid . Overall.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5771986038/m/2301930238/inc/-1 Over 400 prominent scientists from more than two dozen countries recently voiced significant objections to major aspects of the so-called "consensus" on man-made global warming. Some of those profiled have won Nobel Prizes for their outstanding contribution to their field of expertise and many shared a portion of the UN IPCC Nobel Peace Prize with Vice President Gore. or close the agency down completely. meteorology." Many scientists from around the world have dubbed 2007 as the year man-made global warming fears “bite the dust. environmental sciences. engineering.which means the jury is out. biographies. and weblinks to their peer reviewed studies and original source materials as gathered from public statements. should be ignored entirely as politically skewed and dishonest.html Technology. geology. including: Harvard University. country of residence. biogeography. Nathan Paldor. and any reached at the Bali conference based on IPCC conclusions. Additionally. The new report issued by the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee’s office of the GOP Ranking Member details the views of the scientists. A survey of 3146 earth scientists asked the question "Do you think human activity is a significant contributing factor in changing mean global temperatures?" (Doran 2009). [Note: See also July 2007 Senate report detailing how skeptical scientists have faced threats and intimidation . including: climatology. biology. a first of its kind.LINK ] . welcoming dissenting input from scientist reviewers and indicating if reviewers have vested interests. "Subsequent research has confirmed this result. In October. It also features their own words. various news outlets. writing that climate skeptics "appear to be expanding rather than shrinking. There is no consensus! Much of this movement has been political. NASA. Patterson noted that the notion of a “consensus” of scientists aligned with the UN IPCC or former Vice President Al Gore is false. the 14/19 . criticized the climate claims made by the UN IPCC and former Vice President Al Gore. Atmospheric scientist Dr.D. (LINK) This blockbuster Senate report lists the scientists by name.” This new committee report. and academic/institutional affiliation. and websites in 2007. 82% of the scientists answered yes. the UN IPCC. physics and paleoclimatology.Paleoclimatologist Dr. . The number of scientists from all over the world that are concerned for the integrity of the science community have made statements in opposition to the consensus opinion: http://community. These scientists.norcalblogs.. this list of scientists agree with a conclusion that was arrived at fraudulently! For the sake of argument can we agree to throw out scientists in unrelated fields that signed on to the opposing opinions? If so. This new “consensus busters” report is poised to redefine the debate. “I was at the Geological Society of America meeting in Philadelphia in the fall and I would say that people with my opinion were probably in the majority. comes after the UN IPCC chairman Rajendra Pachauri implied that there were only “about a dozen" skeptical scientists left in the world..1/18/13 even further eroded. these scientists hail from prestigious institutions worldwide. explains how many of his fellow scientists have been intimidated.” (LINK) & (LINK) The distinguished scientists featured in this new report are experts in diverse fields. but they will not speak out publicly for fear of retribution. Until then.Dems & Greens Blocked It .s. Tim Patterson. Massachusetts Institute of www. recently converted from a believer in man-made climate change to a skeptic. the overwhelming majority of whom spoke out in 2007. Professor of Dynamical Meteorology and Physical Oceanography at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem. professor in the department of Earth Sciences at Carleton University in Ottawa. Even some in the establishment media now appear to be taking notice of the growing number of skeptical scientists. oceanography. economics." In science when qualified scientists disagree as to a conclusion the theory has NOT been proven. the Washington Post Staff Writer Juliet Eilperin conceded the obvious. Secretary General Ban Kai-Moon must instruct the UN climate body to either completely revise their operating procedures.POST SCRIPTS That the IPCC have let this deception continue for so long is a disgrace... many of whom are current and former participants in the UN IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change). mathematics. Many of the scientists featured in this report consistently stated that numerous colleagues shared their views.com/post_scripts/2012/11/bush-had-a-plan-to-upgrad. author of almost 70 peer-reviewed studies. (LINK) Former Vice President Gore has claimed that scientists skeptical of climate change are akin to “flat Earth society members” and similar in number to those who “believe the moon landing was actually staged in a movie lot in Arizona. “Many of my colleagues with whom I spoke share these views and report on their inability to publish their skepticism in the scientific or public media. chemistry. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) and the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR).discovery. many scientists who are also progressive environmentalists believe climate fear promotion has "co-opted" the green movement.” Paldor wrote. oceanography. their conclusions. and 7% had master’s degrees. we will be left with reputable scientists that disagree.. glaciology.” (LINK) In addition. More than 90% of participants had Ph..

University of Notre Dame. there seems to be a good correlation between cloudiness and variations in the intensity of cosmic radiation. a scientific pioneer in the development of numerical weather prediction and former director of research at The Netherlands' Royal National Meteorological Institute.. and Environment in Lyon. Department of Energy. wrong. Oleg Sorochtin of the Institute of Oceanology at the Russian Academy of Sciences has authored more than 300 studies.S. retired Senior Marine Researcher of the Geological Survey of Finland and former professor of marine geology at University of Helsinki.. France.Dems & Greens Blocked It . criticized the UN IPCC summary.” Tennekes wrote. “There's no need to be worried. “The media is promoting an unprecedented hyping related to global warming. and the University of London. rejected man-made climate fears in 2007. Hendrik Tennekes. and who has published nearly 100 papers. temperature changes. Princeton University. lulled into mindless ac​ ceptance. There's nothing special about the recent rise!” Russia: Russian scientist Dr. the National Academy of Sciences of the U.. the UN IPCC. Here we have a mechanism which is a far better explanation to variations in global climate than the attempts by IPCC to blame it all on anthropogenic input of greenhouse gases. IPCC authors ignored all my comments and suggestions for major changes in the FOD (First Order Draft) and sent me the SOD (Second Order Draft) with essentially the same text as the FOD. Stockholm University. Spain: Anton Uriarte.POST SCRIPTS Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR).” . It is all a fiction.“ Germany: Paleoclimate expert Augusto Mangini of the University of Heidelberg in Germany. . a professor of Physical Geography at the University of the Basque Country in Spain and author of a book on the paleoclimate. Boris Winterhalter. Non-believers in the greenhouse scenario are in the position of those long ago who doubted the existence of God . former professor at Université Jean Moulin and director of the Laboratory of Climatology. the International Arctic Research Centre.that ‘the Earth is warming up’ . and Russia.Brief highlights of the report featuring over 400 international scientists: Israel: Dr. “I consider the part of the IPCC report. a scientist with the Natural Resources Stewardship Project who has over 45 years experience in climatology.” “Even if the concentration of ‘greenhouse gases’ double man would not perceive the temperature impact. University of Melbourne. None of the authors of the www. fortunately for them. Segalstad.. nine books. the Inquisition is no longer with us!” Norway: Geologist/Geochemist Dr.” Hackbart wrote on May 30.e. the Environmental Protection Agency. University of Columbia.1/18/13 Bush Had a Plan to Upgrade Eastern Power Grid ..’ the Apocalypse looms ever nearer! Without realizing it. 2007 article. criticized the media for what he considered its alarming climate coverage. book reviews and a book on Ocean Wave Analysis and Modeling: “To my dismay. Nathan Paldor. the average citizen in bamboozled. Leroux wrote a 2005 book titled Global Warming – Myth or Reality? .” Mangini noted in an April 5. the reconstruction of the paleoclimate. Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute. furthermore. Netherlands: Atmospheric scientist Dr. the same mantra . It's very interesting to study [climate change].D meteorologist. 2007.” Canada: IPCC 2007 Expert Reviewer Madhav Khandekar. fifteen times the IPCC number – entirely without merit.4C in the last 35 years) have occurred in Earth's climatic history. which I can really judge as an expert. “Day after day. The media and many scientists are ignoring very important facts that point to a natural variation in the climate system as the cause of the recent global warming.” Finland: Dr. or perhaps without wishing to. France: Climatologist Dr.” Sorochtin wrote.. i. He added: “The earth will not die.. the Belgian Weather Institute. Tom V.. and the desired temperature will soon be reached. “I find the Doomsday picture Al Gore is painting – a six-meter sea level rise. “First. . Massachusetts Institute of Technology. the World Federation of Scientists. “I protest vigorously the idea that the climate reacts like a home heating system to a changed setting of the thermostat: just turn the dial. a professor and head of the Geological Museum at the University of Oslo and formerly an expert reviewer with the UN IPCC: “It is a search for a mythical CO2 sink to explain an immeasurable CO2 lifetime to fit a hypothetical CO2 computer model that purports to show that an impossible amount of fossil fuel burning is heating the atmosphere. the Danish National Space Center. U. “The effect of solar winds on cosmic radiation has just recently been established and. as well as rates of temperature changes (both increase and decrease) of magnitudes similar to that reported by IPCC to have occurred since the Industrial revolution (about 0.. Marcel Leroux. lobotomized.is churned out in all its forms.html 15/19 . Risks. but there's no need to be worried.” Uriate wrote.8C in 150 years or even 0. and an internationally recognized expert in atmospheric boundary layer processes. the Pasteur Institute in Paris. As ‘the ice melts’ and ‘sea level rises. meteorology and oceanography.S. the University of Pretoria. the University of Helsinki. Hebrew University of Jerusalem.com/post_scripts/2012/11/bush-had-a-plan-to-upgrad. Professor of Dynamical Meteorology and Physical Oceanography at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem has authored almost 70 peer-reviewed studies and won several awards. a Ph. Brazil declared himself a skeptic.The Erring Ways of Climatology.norcalblogs." Brazil: Chief Meteorologist Eugenio Hackbart of the MetSul Meteorologia Weather Center in Sao Leopoldo – Rio Grande do Sul. is a climate skeptic. and a 2006 paper titled “The Evolution and the Prediction of Global Climate Changes on Earth. reports. University of Pennsylvania. The voices of many of these hundreds of scientists serve as a direct challenge to the often mediahyped “consensus” that the debate is “settled.

It is responsible for at least 75 % of the greenhouse effect. And recent global climate behavior is not consistent with AGW model predictions.” Poland: Physicist Dr. an expert reviewer on every single draft of the IPCC reports going back to 1990 and author of The Greenhouse Delusion: A Critique of "Climate Change 2001: “The [IPCC] ‘Summary for Policymakers’ might get a few readers. Wibjorn Karlen.S. Vincent Gray. George Kukla.” China: Chinese Scientists Say C02 Impact on Warming May Be ‘Excessively Exaggerated’ – Scientists Lin Zhen-Shan’s and Sun Xian’s 2007 study published in the peer-reviewed journal Meteorology and Atmospheric Physics: "Although the CO2 greenhouse effect on global climate change is unsuspicious.” Denmark: Space physicist Dr. a member of a NASA working group. expressed climate skepticism in 2007. a UN IPCC expert reviewer and a UK-based climate and atmospheric science consultant: “To date. Any change in the energy from the sun received at the Earth’s surface will therefore affect climate. giving rise to glacial-interglacial cycles.” Belgium: Climate scientist Luc Debontridder of the Belgium Weather Institute’s Royal Meteorological Institute (RMI) co-authored a study in August 2007 which dismissed a decisive role of CO2 in global warming: "CO2 is not the big bogeyman of climate change and global warming. 2007. Antonio Zichichi. a professor of Earth and Environmental Sciences at the University of Adelaide in Australia: "There is new work emerging even in the last few weeks that shows we can have a very close correlation between the temperatures of the Earth and supernova and solar radiation.html 16/19 . “Not CO2. professor emeritus of the Department of Physical Geography and Quaternary Geology at Stockholm University." New Zealand: IPCC reviewer and climate researcher Dr. people look for issues or events to blame on global warming. Kelvin Kemm.com/post_scripts/2012/11/bush-had-a-plan-to-upgrad. but water vapor is the most important greenhouse gas. president of the World Federation of Scientists and a retired Professor of Advanced Physics at the University of Bologna in Italy. and its important consequences for politics and the global economy—is based on ice core studies that provided a false picture of the atmospheric CO2 levels. Radhakrishna. Eigil Friis-Christensen is the director of the Danish National Space Centre. no convincing evidence for AGW (anthropogenic global warming) has been discovered. and a member of the European Space Agency who has authored or co-authored around 100 peer-reviewed papers and chairs the Institute of Space Physics: “The sun is the source of the energy that causes the motion of the atmosphere and thereby controls weather and climate. 1979: “Al Gore brought me back to the battle and prompted me to do renewed research in the field of climatology.” Australia: Prize-wining Geologist Dr. Richard Courtney. but the main purpose of the report is to provide a spurious scientific backup for the absurd claims of the worldwide environmentalist lobby that it has been established scientifically that increases in carbon dioxide are harmful to the climate. who has published over 800 scientific papers: “Significant new peer-reviewed research has cast even more doubt on the hypothesis of dangerous human-caused global warming. It has happened in the past. B.” Britain: Dr. Chairman of the Central Laboratory for the United Nations Scientific Committee on the Effects of Radiological Protection in Warsaw: ““We thus find ourselves in the situation that the entire theory of man-made global warming—with its repercussions in science. past president of the American Association of State Climatologists. President of the Geological Society of India.” Italy: Internationally renowned scientist Dr. critiqued the Associated Press for www.P. Ian Plimer. With religious zeal.” Sweden: Geologist Dr.POST SCRIPTS chapter bothered to directly communicate with me (or with other expert reviewers with whom I communicate on a regular basis) on many issues that were raised in my review. expressed climate skepticism in 2007. a research scientist with the Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory at Columbia University. a member of the space research advisory committee of the Swedish National Space Board. And because of all the misinformation that Gore and his army have been spreading about climate change I have decided that ‘real’ climatologists should try to help the public understand the nature of the problem.” USA: Climatologist Robert Durrenberger.” Czech Republic: Czech-born U. Zbigniew Jaworowski.Dems & Greens Blocked It .1/18/13 Bush Had a Plan to Upgrade Eastern Power Grid . it could have been excessively exaggerated. “We appear to be overplaying this global warming issue as global warming is nothing new. but Al Gore's movie has hyped CO2 so much that nobody seems to take note of it.” Kukla told Gelf Magazine on April 24. and one of the climatologists who gathered at Woods Hole to review the National Climate Program Plan in July. This is a simple scientific fact. Why are some scientists worried? Perhaps because they feel that to stop worrying may mean to stop being paid. climatologist Dr. India: One of India's leading geologists.” South Africa: Dr. It just does not matter that this ain't so. This is not an acceptable scientific review process. “The only thing to worry about is the damage that can be done by worrying. not once but several times.norcalblogs. formerly a scientist at South Africa’s Atomic Energy Corporation who holds degrees in nuclear physics and mathematics: “The global-warming mania continues with more and more hype and less and less thinking." Their study asserted that "it is high time to reconsider the trend of global climate change.

2 billion loan guarantee to build the California Valley Solar Ranch Project.” Your success stories of clean energy spending can all be summed up in these suggested accomplishments: .html 17/19 .SunPower got a $1.” To a sympathetic questioner who said. but most of them have been overseas. “The reward for solving problems is that your funding gets cut. adding that billions of dollars go into funding climate studies. David Wojick is a UN IPCC expert reviewer.” USA: Dr. The Heritage Foundation obtained and posted a copy of the subpoena sent to the company’s CEO. “Why did the American Physical Society take a position?” he asked his audience.. The GHG (greenhouse gas) hypothesis does not do this.” Background: Only 52 Scientists Participated in UN IPCC Summary The over 400 skeptical scientists featured in this new report outnumber by nearly eight times the number of scientists who participated in the 2007 UN IPCC Summary for Policymakers. the company is under investigation for insider trading.” Responding to audience questions about rising temperatures. “[C]limate scientists have been “locked into a simple-minded identification of climate with greenhouse-gas level. who earned his PhD in Philosophy of Science and co-founded the Department of Engineering and Public Policy at Carnegie-Mellon University: “In point of fact. … That climate should be the function of a single parameter (like CO2) has always seemed implausible. New Mexico to offer his criticisms of the the theory that human activity is causing the planet to warm at a dangerous rate. with net income of $1. He has published more than 200 scientific papers and is the lead author of Chapter 7 (“Physical Climate Processes and Feedbacks”) of the International Panel on Climate Change’s (IPCC) Third Assessment Report. is Alfred P.Dems & Greens Blocked It . read. 31. the hypothesis that solar variability and not human activity is warming the oceans goes a long way to explain the puzzling idea that the Earth's surface may be warming while the atmosphere is not. 18.watchdog.It’s true that First Solar is cutting jobs. John McLean revealed that the IPCC’s peer-review process for the Summary for Policymakers leaves much to be desired. “Why did they find it compelling? They never answered. . he said: “We’ve already seen almost the equivalent of a doubling of CO2 (in radiative forcing) and that has produced very little warming.” Wojick added: “The public is not well served by this constant drumbeat of false alarms fed by computer models manipulated by advocates.. but that is still down precipitously from its high of $311. The notion of “hundreds” or “thousands” of UN scientists agreeing to a scientific statement does not hold up to scrutiny. and Aug. Obama said that his green energy program would create five million new green energy jobs but few have materialized and at great cost to the citizen taxpayer: www. seven-..POST SCRIPTS hyping promoting climate fears in 2007.norcalblogs. 1. 2008. Real-world observations do not support Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change models. “The evidence is incontrovertible: Global warming is occurring.com/post_scripts/2012/11/bush-had-a-plan-to-upgrad. For example. Calif. the company confirmed that it has received subpoenas from the SEC as part of a fact-finding inquiry related to the trading of shares between Aug. According to CBS News. (LINK) http://newmexico. . He is a member of the National Academy of Sciences and a fellow of the American Geophysical Union and the American Meteorological Society. But on a positive note.. Newspapers should think about the damage they are doing to many persons. 2009.” Lindzen said. It must be hard to get published. and $16. It’s not a good incentive structure.2 million. On a decidedly less positive note. (See report debunking “consensus” LINK) Recent research by Australian climate data analyst Dr....org/15128/mit-scientist-disputes-man-made-global-warming-in-sandialabs-presentation/ Dr. The crude graphic in the ad seems to suggest the stock has dropped to $4 per share. and 17-year averages that seem to show that Earth’s surface temperature is rising.the company posted net losses of $22. Yet an obsessive focus on such an obvious oversimplification has likely set back progress by decades. he said a 0.8 of a degree C change in temperature in 150 years is a small change. the company reported that the first quarter of 2012 was its first profitable quarter. Lindzen.it’s true that the price is lower than it has been in more than six years.5 million in 2011. a 250-megawatt solar plant in San Luis Obispo County. according to a press release from Sandia Labs. Questioned about five-. by spreading the exaggerated views of a human impact on climate. the American Physical Society statement of Nov... the ninth speaker in Sandia’s Climate Change and National Security Speaker Series.40 on May 30. particularly young kids. Richard Lindzen of MIT spoke at the invitation of Sandia National Laboratories in Albuquerque. atmospheric and planetary sciences. “You are like a voice crying in the wilderness. . Sloan professor of meteorology in MIT’s department of earth. It was trading at $13.. but that’s not accurate. 2007.4 million in 2010.1/18/13 Bush Had a Plan to Upgrade Eastern Power Grid .14 in May 2008. “Another of these hysterical views of our climate.. And SunPower reported an operating loss of $534 million last year.” Lindzen said. he said temperatures are always fluctuating by tenths of a degree.” But he doesn’t feel they are necessarily right.. Sandia stated that Lindzen’s views run counter to “those of almost all major professional societies.

100 for every resident of the state.000 megawatts. "As Jon Stewart rightly pointed out. Obama wants to set for the entire nation -. those regions have suffered a 54 percent hike in electricity costs.com/issues/energy Mitt will promote innovation by focusing the federal government on the job it does best – research and development – and will eliminate any barriers that might prevent new energy technologies from succeeding on their own merits.." A Fortune 300 company.com/about/index. They take the risk (and can afford it) and the taxpayer is better served both inn terms of alternative development and in terms of www. that is also picking winners and losers.html This demonstrates that privately owned companies with experience in the industry are the best candidates to INVEST in alternative energy. Our retail electricity providers — Reliant. Bryce has studied the impact of so-called “renewable portfolio standards” (RPS) – the kind of directive that Mr. the Internet.mittromney. "These investments have given us railroads. unemployment is above the national average. this president will be shown the door! "Romney has said he will not invest in solar energy. "Every administration much choose what to invest in.. and encourage the use of a diverse range of fuels including natural gas in transportation." Wrong again.com/about/assets.nrgenergy.on the 29 states that have adopted these required minimum mandates for “green” energy." The people have spent to have these things.. .the list goes on.. NRG is a pioneer in developing cleaner and smarter energy choices for our customers.. See a list of their assets here: http://www. Mr.aspx#page1 A new report from Robert Bryce of the Manhattan Institute details the harm done by the fanciful quest for clean energy at any price.Consider California. As utilities scramble to comply with the new directive. Strengthening and streamlining regulations and permitting processes will benefit the development of both traditional and alternative energy sources.norcalblogs. planes. scientific achievment. capable of supporting more than 20 million homes. they were taxed! I didn't argue that all government spending has been wrongheaded. Companies 18/19 . but in traditional fuel sources. So NRG is the owner of the loan guarantees and the company responsible for repaying them. in the past decade. come next Tuesday. Green Mountain Energy Company and Energy Plus — and thermal energy division serve more than two million residential. streets. He finds that forcing utilities to buy wind and solar energy drives up electricity costs and slows growth.POST SCRIPTS have materialized and at great cost to the citizen taxpayer: http://www.com/Columns/2012/03/05/Obamas-Energy-Plan-Costs-Rise-JobsDecline. electricity costs were on average 32 percent higher than in states without such mandates. Bryce reports that the California Public Utilities Commission estimated that the state would need to invest some $115 billion to adapt to the regulations – or $3. Our diverse power generating facilities have a capacity of more than 25. NRG is at the forefront of changing how people think about and use energy. business. the damage is even worse. commercial and industrial customers in 16 states. the state faces gaping budget gaps and already suffers some of the highest electricity costs in the country. NASA. Who is NRG? a Fortune 300 company! http://www. they are signing up green power at a 50 percent premium to natural gas. in the states adopting RPS.com/post_scripts/2012/11/bush-had-a-plan-to-upgrad.. In coal-dependent states. Mitt's plan takes government out of the mix to allow entrepreneurial effort a fair shot by removing obstacles to their success and development through private investment. NRG supports clean energy resources and technologies critical to our transition to a sustainable..Dems & Greens Blocked It . which naturally has the most ambitious program – requiring utilities to derive fully one third of their power from renewables by 2020.html the cost to them. Imagine what these cost increases will mean for Californians.1/18/13 Bush Had a Plan to Upgrade Eastern Power Grid . (an example of a private sector rescue in your own examples: "SunPower sold the project to NRG Energy.. low carbon society. Specifically. military achievment." That is not true." Are you aware of what you are suggesting? That a president in America can spend the people's money according to his own beliefs and agenda? That is not how our system works and that is one reason. by building the nation’s first privately funded electric vehicle charging infrastructure or by giving customers the latest smart energy solutions to better manage their energy use.htm NRG has taken a leading role on climate change and the power sector’s role in reducing greenhouse gases from the next wave of new power generation while meeting the country’s growing energy needs.thefiscaltimes. California has already been hard-hit by the financial and housing crisis. I argued that attempting to think of it as "investment" as if government had its own money is incredibly deceptive! It is particularly deceptive when it is pushed by an agenda driven president rather than passed in legislation by the people's representatives. Whether as the largest solar power developer in the country.nrgenergy. the Romney policy includes all forms of energy production including solar: http://www. .

.html 19/19 .norcalblogs. Companies have the incentive of profit which they will earn by delivering viable energy sources. or comment anonymously. Chris. both alternative and traditional. Name Email Address URL Remember personal info? Comments (You may use HTML tags for style) Type the two words: Preview Submit www.. at the lowest possible price.Dems & Greens Blocked It . Leave a comment Sign in to comment. In case you didn't learn this in college. I have nothing more to say on the subject.1/18/13 Bush Had a Plan to Upgrade Eastern Power Grid .its the American way and it has worked very well for a couple of hundred years! And that is the bottom line.POST SCRIPTS better served both inn terms of alternative development and in terms of the cost to them.com/post_scripts/2012/11/bush-had-a-plan-to-upgrad.

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