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The Truth about Bird Flu, H5N1, Vaccines and AIDS
Dr. Stefan Lanka Exposes The "Viral Fraud"
"For almost one year we have been asking authorities, politicians and medical institutes for the scientific evidence for the existence of such viruses that are said to cause disease and therefore require "immunization". After almost one year we have not received even one concrete answer which provides evidence for the existence of those "vaccination viruses".... Dr. Stefan Lanka, Sept. 2001 interview From Franz Erdl <franz@psitalent.de> http://educate-yourself.org/cn/stefanlankaviralfraudexposed04may09.shtml May 4, 2009 The Truth about Bird Flu, H5N1, Vaccines and AIDS (May 4, 2009) http://www.psitalent.de/Englisch/Virus2.htm

Pictures of "Isolated Viruses" Debunked
What all of these photos have in common is that they, according to authors Stefan Lanka and Karl Krafeld, can´t claim that they present a virus, as long as they do not also provide the original publications which describe how and from what the virus has been isolated. Such original publications have been cited nowhere. Indeed, in the entire scientific literature, there´s not even one publication where Koch´s First Postulate is even claimed for "viruses in medicine" . That means, that there is no proof that from humans with certain diseases that the viruses - which are held responsible for these diseases - have been isolated. Nevertheless, this is precisely what is publicly claimed. Now, regarding the photos published and submitted as "evidence"::

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The particles are claimed to be HIV, but are cellular and not viral particles. The debris on the lower part of the photo indicates that the particles are not purified or isolated. These photos are always published without any evidence that the particles are of viral origin.

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HIV researchers believe the AIDS virus looks like this; like a bomb or water (blood) mine. This model is based on the detection of cellular particles in cell lines under very special conditions. Such particles never have been isolated or somehow demonstrated to exist as a virus or be of viral origin.

and smallpox (Pocken) viruses clearly show. they differ in size and shape (consistency) and therefore can´t be isolated. made by Lennart Nilsson. Fraud => . Thus. that these are cells wherein the viruses can allegedly be found. The images of the so called HIV-. have been published without any evidence that the particles have a viral origin. These kind of nice photographs.Fraud => Computer enhanched EM photo of a cell surrounded by small particles. measles (Masern). which are claimed to be HIV particles attacking or (depending on the publication) leaving a white blood cell. These structures are well known and serve the intra. are artefacts of the staining and/or fixation process and at best may be cellular particles entering or leaving the cell. The photos actually show cells and typical endogenous particles in them. nothing has been isolated.that are always the same size and same shape (consistency) -. Unlike viruses of the same kind . The blue/grey stained particles.and intercellular transport.

generated by suction of an indifferent mass through a very fine filter into a vacuum. although "isolation" is claimed.Fraud => In the case of the influenza.herpes-. has never been published anywhere nor has anybody even claimed such a characterization. Here the information is essential that a biochemical characterization of those "isolated" viruses. let alone particles that have been isolated from humans. adenoand ebola-viruses each photo shows only a single particle. nobody claims that they´re isolated particles. vaccinia-. Its structure (no characteristic structures) differ clearly from the ones of the "viruses" in the cells. Fraud => Fraud => The "isolated" polio viruses are artificial particles. . polio-.

Fraud => Fraud => Fraud => Fraud => The photo of the hepatitis B "viruses" does not show isolated structures. then all the other hens are gassed. Typically. thereby round and also crystal structures accrue depending on the condition of the blood sample. This is the scientific/medical term for proteins from the blood that are clumped together. as is typical for coagulations. but an agglutinate. That is how the apparently 100 million killed hens from H5N1 H5N1 Fraud => (= Hoax 5 Nonsense 1) . If one hen lays fewer eggs or gets a blue crest and that hen is tested H5N1-positive.

because adequate technology wasn´t available at that time. in particular by the invention of the electron microscope. Statement from Dr. from . After almost one year we have not received even one concrete answer which provides evidence for the existence of those "vaccination viruses". this evidence couldn´t be achieved directly by visualization and characterization of the viruses. Stefan Lanka: "For almost one year we have been asking authorities. politicians and medical institutes for the scientific evidence for the existence of such viruses that are said to cause disease and therefore require "immunization". Methods of modern medicine have profoundly changed over the past 60 years. In Koch´s time.was achieved. In the 19th century. And still. Don't trust the World Hoax Organization [WHO]. there is no proof of their existence. he stumbled over a breathtaking fact: Not even ONE of the (medically relevant) viruses has ever been isolated. however. Stefan Lanka. Why do they say H1N1 is a mixture of different viruses and make us suspect. Robert Koch demanded in his generally accepted postulates evidence of the virus in order to prove infection. it must have been made artificially in some military-lab? I guess they only try to make people believe in the thread. in the almost "legendary" Zenger´s interview: "So for a long time I studied virology. all these viruses we get immunized against have never been re-examined using this technology? " H1N1 Fraud => (= Hoax 1 Nonsense 1) Dr. The conclusion is inevitable: our children are still vaccinated on the basis of scientific standards of the 18th and 19th century. is internationally mostly known as an "AIDS dissident" (and maybe "gentechnology dissident") who has been questioning the very existence of "HIV" since 1994. Actually. People should be smarter than hens. Dr. virologist and molecular biologist. In the past years. Lanka has already stated three years ago.

in fact do not exist at all.com/aids/hiv/mcinterviewsl.S.because its true cause is a breakdown in the delivery of oxygen to the blood and/or body tissues. that AIDS has nothing to do with immune suppression. But that hardly begins to describe his wideranging fields of study. Stefan Lanka.D. and therefore it's probably what's called an "endogenous retrovirus" -. but is not an infection because it comes from the body's own cells.continues to insist that HIV exists but is harmless. -virtually the only alternative AIDS theorist with any significant public reputation -.E. the retroviruses -. and that it should really be called Acquired Energy Deficiency Syndrome -. that hepatitis is an autoimmune disorder (a disease in which the body is attacked by components of its own immune system) rather than a viral disease. The only dangerous virus might be on your harddisk Interview with Dr.Völkermord im dritten Jahrtausend?" (Vaccination . evolutionary biology and virology. 1998 http://www. Zenger's interviewed . Lanka did a West Coast tour in October and spoke to H. D Challenging BOTH Mainstream and Alternative AIDS Views By Mark Gabrish Conlan Zenger's Dec. The main proponents of this view are Australian researcher Eleni Papadopulos-Eleopulos and her colleagues. Based on experiences in marine biology. This has actually taken place. Dr. He believes that all so-called retroviruses are actually the body's own creations.Genocide in the third millennium?) by Stefan Lanka and Karl Krafeld was published in which they state that there is still no proof of any (medically relevant) virus. biochemistry. A German researcher. and after he could still not find any paper which would provide the evidence.D. who argue that HIV has never been isolated according to the Pasteur Institute criteria of 1973. Ph. Dr.a creation of the body's own genetic material that looks and functions partly like a virus.. Ph. he's worked out a whole new view of HIV and AIDS.the end to the beginning. Stefan Lanka. In September 2001 the German book "Impfen .AEDS -.virusmyth.L. other alternative AIDS researchers and activists are coming to the conclusion that the virus doesn't exist. Ph. takes the challenge to HIV's existence even further. 1998 While most people in the U.A.htm Zenger's Dec. mostly initiated by mothers.San Diego on October 20.as well as other viruses which are claimed to be very dangerous -. And it was easy for me to be sure about this because I realized that the whole group of viruses to which HIV is said to belong. he encouraged people not to BELIEVE him but to ask the institutes and authorities themselves. to be absolutely sure that there was no such thing as HIV. debate rages even within the alternative AIDS community over whether HIV exists at all." So he was thoroughly reading the literature on those "other viruses" again. and Western Europe go right on believing that the so-called Human Immunodeficiency Virus [HIV] is the sole cause of AIDS. from the beginning to the end. The responses were revealing. Lanka is usually referred to as a virologist. Though Peter Duesberg.

I knew that was it. I have overlooked something. "Well. I had isolated a virus and characterized it. which Gallo claimed to be the cause of AIDS in 1982. Lanka.: I started studying molecular biology in 1984. I was telling people what I heard from the mass media and the TV. so I went to the library to look up the literature on HIV. So you can really study how they interact." Then I was afraid that speaking about this with my friends. That's still the only stable virus-host relationship in virology. I was glad to be able to carry out this study. and all this kind of gossip. On the other side. and essentially how you came to these ideas about AIDS. before his alleged discovery of HIV] and he had stolen the virus from Montagnier. what you specialized in. I was looking for an opportunity to do molecular genetics in the field of biology. I was thinking. but first I had to convince my professor so he would agree to finance my new studies. what your training is.him hours before that event. He said he was a classical biologist and he could not sponsor me as a researcher in virology. and that he was misleading the public about his first retrovirus [HTLV-I. from the beginning to the end. I could buy all the tools and big machines on my own overtime. So for a long time I studied virology. to be absolutely sure that there was no such thing as HIV. it was already 1986. So I went into ecology because I realized. Zenger's: I'd like a little about your background. how the genetic material of the virus is produced and how it interacts with the host. I already had a somewhat critical attitude when I started studying molecular genetics. I found that when they are speaking about HIV they are not speaking about a virus. They are speaking about cellular characteristics and activities of cells under very special conditions. I'm not experienced enough. that you can carry out very important research without big machines or big money. In the beginning. 1987. other than in bacteria. and the very day I found one I got a lab of my own. so I had the best conditions to start my studies. A marine biology professor was willing to let me work for him. just when the public in Germany and Europe was starting to become aware of AIDS. so I chose to move into marine biology and did a lot of electron microscopic studies. After one year. and while doing this I found a stable virus-host relationship by accident. I needed to find another professor who was willing to guide me. when you studied. Dr. Then I heard about the things that Robert Gallo [American cancer researcher who first identified HIV as the cause of AIDS] was doing wrong. out-of-date dogmatic thinking. When I started doing viral research. this was a nice feeling. I was automatically considered a specialist in the AIDS field. and I was not checking the evidence because everybody was convinced AIDS was a viral disease. And it was easy for me to be sure about this because I . I was so deeply shocked. or even my family. while being abroad in different countries. without manipulating it. those people are absolutely sure. from the end to the beginning. they would think is absolutely mad and crazy. in which a virus is produced in the host but does not kill the host. To my big surprise. and I soon got bored because I learned that all that you have to learn in order to pass the exams is already old. The best way to do meaningful genetic research is to have a stable virus-host relationship. Because AIDS was supposedly caused by a virus. In that very moment.

and this means the genetic material is reverse-transcribed." In 1970. [Rous surgically removed cancerous . Instead. How did you figure that out. and only later in evolution did DNA come into existence. is the product of so-called reverse transcription: RNA transcribed into DNA. But the mainstream of molecular genetics is still committed to the central dogma: "There is no such thing as reverse transcription from RNA to DNA. That was and is the basis. RNA cannot be transcribed back into DNA. So I went into evolutionary biology and found that the first genetic molecule of life was RNA. the retroviruses -. This earlier research also established that inside the cell we have a huge amount of genetic material other than that of the nucleus. and why are you so sure about it? Dr. But I had already realized already by then that the thinking about molecular genetics was very dogmatic. what is considered to be the "HIV virus" and is supposed to be infectious like other viruses that are acknowledged pathogens. who thought they could explain the whole structure of the atom just by focusing on the nucleus. they didn't give up the dogma or even try to change it. Zenger's: Excuse me. But because molecular genetics and molecular biology were actually founded by physicists. The dogma says that DNA behaves in a static way. I quickly realized that reverse transcription is common to all forms of life. Zenger's: So it was just on the basis of this reading that you concluded that what is called HIV. how it's controlled.namely. This kind of science well established that the genetic material is not stable. when they detected biochemically that there is a reverse flow of genetic material. Lanka: I was wondering what viruses are for in evolution. It is subject to change. I found that this kind of thought came from research funded by the seed-producing industry of the United States. Later I learned that reverse transcription is a repair mechanism for chromosomal DNA. but I thought that the field of retrovirology had started as far back as 1911.was just suppressed or even slandered as "lazy science" because it had been carried out mostly in Europe. because they didn't seem to have any function other than to be very dangerous and killing other cells. RNA comes into existence only on the basis of DNA. and in fact is the basis of all higher living. DNA makes RNA. etc. they called it an exception to the central dogma of molecular genetics. when they went into biology they carried over that same mistake.realized that the whole group of viruses to which HIV is said to belong. before World War II -. and explained it by postulating the existence of retroviruses. Every one of our genomes. While studying the evolutionary aspects of biology. that of cytogenetics.in fact do not exist at all. It goes in both directions. and that of higher plants and animals. They focused only on the nucleus of the cell and claimed it was responsible for all of how life comes into existence.as well as other viruses which are claimed to be very dangerous -. This is ridiculous. and which is ridiculous. because they have overlooked the essential of life: the production of energy. of the central dogma of molecular genetics. In the early 1960's they came up with the central dogma of molecular genetics. with Peyton Rous and his experiments with chickens. really represented a phenomenon within the body. which try to uphold even today. and that a whole body of existing knowledge -.

which they cannot prove exist in other ways. which had already been established by Otto Warburg's research. with time. some of the publications of Peter Duesberg helped me a lot. when they proved that reverse transcription does happen and they discovered the enzyme.against the existing body of knowledge. But then. of course. plants or human beings. Then you will see the characteristic chromosomal damages in inbred animals. then even more genetic material is interchanged between the chromosomes than happens normally. and at every conference I presented my own data. I learned about other specialists. When I was absolutely sure about everything I've told you so far. because Rous's chickens were so heavily inbred. that oxidative respiration is not taking place in cancer.] Dr.tumors from chickens in his lab. who helped me to understand what was really going on. And this has been just ignored. among them Heinrich Kremer. I went public. which does it. because he was an authority who questioned a lot of things. They changed it slightly and said there is an exception. using oxidative respiration. Later. Often. and that it was associated with the existence of a new class of viruses called retroviruses. on two places of the chromosomes genetic material in between got lost. He concluded that the tumors may have been caused by an infectious agent being transmitted from the sick chickens to the healthy ones. or mutations. Warburg had received his first Nobel Prize demonstrating how a cell is able to produce much more energy than in the process of fermentation. I was invited to a lot of conferences on marine biology and biology. When the animals' genetic materials become too similar to each other. the well-known German medical doctor. and I quickly learned that because I was taking away HIV as an explanation for AIDS and was not able to replace it with something else. and used it in . of facts -. it was only in retrospect that he was cited as the one who was dealing with retroviruses. and argued -." it forced me to watch out and find those people who were able to explain what's going on. So in 1970. fed them to healthy chickens and observed that the healthy chickens who ate ground-up tumors grew tumors themselves. some people tried to speculate about them.that cancer is caused by infectious entities: by viruses. and that helped me. In the beginning. they had a high rate of spontaneous cancer induction. In the late 1960's and early 1970's they started to think about this because molecular biology took over modern medicine. and not being able to explain what's going on under the label "HIV. The results from this research were not cited for more than 20 years. reverse transcriptase. And he had received his second Nobel for proving that cancer is characterized by the process of fermentation. I translated some of this articles into German and published them in a small publishing house. resulting in disabilities which are well studied. former medical director of the Federal German Drug Abuser Clinics. I used every opportunity to speak out against HIV. Lanka: No. they wouldn't give up the dogma. Because he was in charge of the introduction of hepatitis B vaccine into Germany. ground up the tumors. So. They ignored the fact that cancer has something to do with oxygen deficiencies. in inbred animals or plants. What Peyton Rous actually did was he inbred his animals so heavily that the genetic material from the different strains he used to breed became more and more similar. or viruses causing mutations.

It is not able to say yes or no. Some people have them in higher concentrations. But in 1983 the German government forced him not to use this vaccine anymore. which means to separate them from the other ones. but only when you reach a very high level of antibodies -." So he knew that there is no infection in his hospital.A. and some in lower concentrations. you get a high or a low antibody reaction. He said that when they do the HIV antibody test they dilute the sample to 1/400 of its original strength. He was very worried about the fate of his patients. Dr. that this had nothing to do with the science. Zenger's: It's my understanding that when you have an antibody test that is actually useful. is virtually a colony of the American system. He found that the American vaccine.much higher than in any other antibody testing -. he checked what's the evidence for the accuracy and reliability of the HIV antibody test.are you considered to be "positive. Dr. there was a lot of sex going on in a minority of these men. and therefore they had had a lot of sexually transmitted diseases. but it had to do with the fact that the German medical system. you are or are not infected. Zenger's: So this is what Dr. But with HIV they say you are "positive" only when you have reached a very high level of antibodies. That's how the HIV antibody test was and is designed. because in 1984 the politicians asked him to put these already stigmatized "HIV-positive" patients into quarantine. They said the French vaccine is poisoned by the "AIDS virus" -. hepatitis B vaccine. Dr. which was produced from blood donations by the general population in France. in 1984. it is clear that the antibodies that are detected in the test are present in everybody. as he knew. and he realized that this test is not able to detect the virus. or he was warned." This is a contradiction in terms because in other antibody tests. the lower your level of antibodies.at the time when nobody was positively speaking about an "AIDS virus" -. Lanka: That's it. to the newly founded AIDS Center. was produced with the sera donated by men in the Gay scene in New York City between 1978 and 1980. and if they didn't do that all the samples would test positive. Soon after.but the American vaccine was O." Before he let his blood out. . he was told to deliver frozen blood samples of his patients to Berlin. because there's no infectious entity out there. Especially in HIV antibody testing. He said no. He knew everybody who went through chronic active hepatitis or had the hepatitis B vaccine would test "HIVpositive. like the antibody test for syphilis. and it's a certain multiple of how many times you dilute the original sample and still have the reaction. He knew. How ridiculous. It is only able to say that you have a higher or lower amount of antibodies. Therefore you know not only that the infection is present. and instead he used the French vaccine. you are said to be negative. Kremer knew this already by 1984.his patients. in parts of Germany. Dr. Roberto Giraldo was talking about when he spoke to H. to be tested for the "AIDS virus. the higher your risk for a symptomatic infection.L. So he was afraid of using this vaccine. Lanka: I'm absolutely sure that no antibody test in medicine has any absolute meaning. So. Below this level. but also how well the immune system is responding to it. Kremer checked out the hepatitis B vaccines on the market.K. in San Diego.E.

infectious. it gets even worse because blood donations are one of the principal ways homeless people have of staying alive. Zenger's: So there are no hepatitis viruses. It became clear. They even tried to kill him. also. and this didn't succeed. there's a possibility to enrich certain kinds of proteins in blood products. He founded Swiss blood-donation system and was one of the first to take out products from the blood in order to make plasma to treat chronic disease. They told him. there are not hepatic problems anymore. that the German government was carrying out a secret psychological investigation.He informed the mass media. He told them all the evidence. who went to his hospital to inform themselves. Lanka: I know all the details. contrary to the evidence which he presented to them. They all wanted to have a blood and sex plague. They played war. in talk shows. they didn't care. that they knew. So when he learned this. but only in very stressed-out people. Then he learned from a minister who had a deep respect for him. or dilute them. By becoming a colleague and a very close friend of his by now. either? Dr. As a result. what's happening in the field of hepatitis. That would not fit his ethics. Professor Hässig once met the . we're taking a lot of our blood supply from people in society who have the least healthy lifestyles. Zenger's: Are you saying that all forms of hepatitis are non. Of course. I learned this through him. published just the contrary. it was about how to deal with the drug problem and with the homosexuals. in great detail. he left his very highly-ranked position because he was not able to be silent on this. In March of 1996 in Berne [capital of Switzerland]. Zenger's: In this country. or just some of them? Dr. in Der Spiegel [one of Germany's largest and most popular magazines] for example. He had a good intuition and got out of his car before the tire blew out. because of his work with prisoners and drug abusers. never in non-stressed people. there's no such thing as infectious hepatitis. So he knew that AIDS was built up on misconceptions. because then it was much cheaper to get out all the various kinds of products. He was dealing at the top political level. Lanka: Yes. This what I'm going to tell you. So he knew that it was intentional from the very beginning. Hässig. They are not dealing with a virus. which then cause severe autoimmune reactions. And the very same journalists. Dr. Kremer and I met for the first time. When they learned to take out these proteins from the blood products. Lanka: No. I also met Professor Alfred Hässig of Switzerland. I learned a great deal about the whole blood-producing industry and the criminal energy behind it. pooling them all together in a large pool. trying to prove that he was mentally ill and being kept in his job only because they considered him in danger of committing suicide. off the record. The industry started to produce blood products on the basis of commercial blood donations. Hässig was always fighting to make sure that blood products were produced only on the basis of a small pool of donors who were young and healthy. using a huge amount of blood samples.

and.to treat hemophiliac patients prophylactically with those clotting factors.if I understand what you're saying correctly -. When Hässig heard about this. is stressed out. he rang some of his friends -. This has been the biggest business in the blood industry ever since. Nobody's speaking about this. near where we are sitting right now.ever since the end of World War II virtually every scientist working in this field has been absolutely committed to a totally wrong theory and that all of that research is nonsense and has to be thrown out. resulting in hepatic inflammations. when this person was drunk while visiting the Fiji Islands after a conference in Australia.and at this time there were some non-corrupted people in the WHO (World Health Organization).person responsible for the industry to produce industrial blood products. and they are going to Mexico. Zenger's: One of the issues that's raised in groups whenever we're talking about the theories that HIV doesn't exist. and this is how the industry made a lot of money. the FDA [U. And. this person told Professor Hässig that soon they are going to smash the state-owned blood producing units. It would be way too much to try to convince them that it doesn't exist at all. the bodies of these hemophiliacs made a lot of antibodies against those products. of course. They gradually have to increase the amount they are injecting. Now they are bleeding out the poorest of the poor. and once. because they're much cheaper producing their blood products because they go into the Third World countries. as the central metabolic organ. That means he may drop in two times a week to give blood and liver plasma. on short notice so the industry had not time to corrupt the members who decided on these issues. and all the contaminants. If they would give them prophylactically. in order to compete with those antibodies.S. antibodies would be produced because these blood products are highly contaminated. so that those clotting factors actually work.and the first one was a woman doctor in California -. In 1969 the industry started to convince some medical doctors -. is we often get people saying they're having a hard enough time just trying to get people to think that HIV might be harmless. . and they are already there in all the prisons of the dictators in South America and elsewhere. or that this or that disease isn't infectious at all. Hässig was the leading person in the blood business -. because they would bleed them out. And an elephant wouldn't possibly survive that. It started in California. right? So that's the background. In order to help the commercial blood products industry. and what they did when all that was in place was they changed the way they were treating hemophiliacs. in an emergency meeting. If you inject such a high amount of foreign proteins. but that's why almost all hemophiliacs have come down with hepatitis. They've had to use higher doses of clotting factors ever since. they decided that the position of the WHO would be that it isn't allowed to produce plasma in the Third World. of course. then of course the liver. Food and Drug Administration] has approved that a single person may give up to 50 units of plasma a year. based on voluntary blood donations. A lot of hemophiliacs died from hepatitis. So. which had been foreseen. Up to the year 1969 it was forbidden to give the clotting factors to hemophiliacs unless they had internal bleeding. and it was blamed on nonexistent viruses. or that retroviruses don't exist. and even more difficult to try to convince them that -.

When immunology. Bacterial cells are . dominating everything. And when the T4 cells are out of order with something else in the immune system. of course. of course they developed chemotherapy against it. When the nerve cells have got broken." This was the first time incredible amounts of money were poured into this kind of research. We have a lot of embryonic cells in our body all over. because they knew already by then that cancer cells have no specific markers on their surface. they claimed that cancers come to existence by accidental mutations everywhere in the body. So silently. slowly but surely. But this was all silenced. new nerve cells may regenerate out of the embryonic cells. Lanka: That's it. etc. and here comes evolutionary biology. These elite schools of thought came into existence. Evolutionary biologists were already arguing about the central dogma of molecular genetics. they were silent. when I was in danger of being expelled from the university. They have the same protein markers on their surface as embryonic cells.Dr. because those cells cannot be regenerated. people claimed that they were able to measure the strength of the immune system by measuring lymphocytes in the bloodstream. But soon they had to give up the idea of cancer being caused by viruses because they saws that reverse transcriptase and reverse transcription occur everywhere they're look for it. liked me a lot and they tried to warn me when it was too much. saying it's a weak immune system. but came up with a completely new idea of what is causing cancer. especially for cancer cells. But none of them went public on their own. they stopped speaking about those cancer-causing viruses anymore. the immune system cannot suppress cancer anymore. Of course. Even when some of my colleagues at the university and everybody I reached was absolutely sure and clear and convinced about what I was saying. When they claimed that retroviruses were the cause of cancer. So we have embryonic tissues everywhere. when the retrovirologists were being supported by President Nixon in the "War on Cancer. as its own biological discipline with is own faculty came into existence. Those are the stem cells. because they all experienced how rapidly that idea came into existence. Lanka: That's not true. But. and how powerful it was. and in fact it's a repair mechanism. And this was the immune surveillance theory of cancer. thousands of studies had been carried out in the '70's saying that the white blood cell count never correlated with any disease or with any age. even so. and the immune system is suppressing cancer. Zenger's: One wouldn't expect the immune system to recognize a cancer cell because it's self. Now I have to tell you the basis of our lives. The fermentation process was not producing enough energy to form multicellular organisms or to enable the cell to differentiate. Dr. They found it's a common characteristic of all forms of life. Lanka: I think it really started in the 1960's. Some of them. Before AIDS. what you call the dogma? How long has it been the dominant paradigm? Dr. Zenger's: When would you date the beginnings of this mistake. there were a lot of discussions and papers about the role of viruses in evolution. which was wrong already at the moment they announced it. I never got support from a lot of professors at my university. and of course they had success with the mass media because they were dealing with cancer.

as Otto Warburg already detected in the 1940's. Only the invention of photosynthesis -. This revolution in energy formation was the basis for all higher cells and all higher organisms. so that they keep the atmosphere at a constant level of 20 percent oxygen. Of course. cells could eventually differentiate and form multicellular organisms. due to the lack of nutrition. Life is driven by the force of electrons. not able to build multicellular organisms because they don't have enough energy. are part of every one of our cells. which brought mobility into life. out of a sugar molecule. They knew from the very beginning that cancer cells have only embryonic markers on their surface. Life dealt with the oxygen catastrophe. and it waits until the lack of energy is over in order to differentiate again.not differentiated.if you don't let the oxygen come into the organism. cancer occurs when the cell is programmed to behave like a cell very early in fetal development and just divide like crazy. by the way. to produce much more energy than was possible without the potent oxidative substance at the end of the energy-producing chain. and with photosynthesis the electrons came out of the splitting of the water. It either may die. it will become cancerous. which produced much more energy than before. it is impossible. evolutionary point of view it makes sense that a cancer cell is a reduction to an embryonic stage. Those bacteria which learned to use oxygen were able to produce 20 to 30 times more energy per sugar molecule. At a lower level. This is exactly the level at which life is able to persist. . or if the transit way between the blood and the cells is poisoned by heavy metals. because then they lost the ability to differentiate again. and eventually the atmosphere. if the lack of energy persists. or when the mitochondria are destroyed in the cells. or a higher level. with this excess of energy. and if you violate it -. and these were the old criteria to define cancer. then that's cancer. if the blood is oxidized by poppers [nitrites] or sulfinamides [including sulfa drugs like Bactrim and Septra]. The water. So very higher cell is a product of the fusion of several different kinds of bacteria: the spirochetes.allowed life to go on. From a biological. it loses genetic material. and the base product was oxygen. Zenger's: In other words. It de-differentiates due to the lack of energy. This excess energy is the basis of all higher life.using the energy of the sun to split down matter in order to get electrons -. Of course. Only when bacteria began to learn to use oxygen to produce much more energy out of organic material. and since then we have had a perfect equilibrium of oxygen-producing bacteria and oxygen-using bacteria. which sere using the oxygen. and the mitochondria. Then the cell is not able to produce enough energy. When the cell is producing only fermentation. when cells lost a lot of genetic material. or antibiotics -. or the lack of essential fatty acids. That's the principle of Gaia.the oxygen cannot be transported from the blood to the cells. resulting in inflammation. This photosynthesis was so successful that it polluted the whole planet. became saturated with oxygen. And these bacteria. called mitochondria. because the oxygen at the end was sucking so many electrons that many more electrons could be taken out of the sugar. did we have the next step in evolution. We are living in the equilibrium. or when it's possible for a cell to survive.

In the Journal of the American Medical Association. if it's a breakdown of the immune system. not in the blood. when you have an immune defect or an immune deficiency. in T-cell subsets. But this is ridiculous. This is the definite turning point when modern medicine and modern biology lost their 'Unschuld'. they claimed to be able to measure the immune system. Zenger's: When you say. which is the medical background of why "AIDS" has been invented. or those people in the intensive. "In AIDS we have never seen any opportunistic infections. but in the tissues. like a bacterium. An opportunistic infection is a bacterial infection which takes over when the immune functions are down. It loses the ability to stop replication when coming into contact with other cells. transfusion or transplantation. who have to live under a plastic tent. Lanka: That's it. Bacterial infections go everywhere in the body. you are going to develop all viral forms of opportunistic infections and all forms of cancer. the thinking about AIDS. August 28. even though they knew that these T-cell tests had not meaning. This was and is the definition of an immune defect. only one form of cancer. 1981. Beginning in 1977. it was published that it makes no sense to measure lymphocytes in the blood because only a few of them are in the blood. it was possible to patent biological entities or biological techniques. definitely. and even less.the belief that if you measure the strength of the immune system. when immune functions are artificially suppressed. their innocence. in the early 1980's: "Well. We have never seen all viral forms of cancer. That's it.Dr. But. In AIDS we never have seen opportunistic infections. We've already carried out thousands of studies which have proven no correlation between disease or health. KS [Kaposi's sarcoma]. accident. in old or young. Only rarely and accidentally do we see some of them in the blood. then you could see when you are going to develop cancer -. in T-cells. why don't you get colds all the time? Why don't you get flus all the time? Why don't you get these common infectious diseases all the time? Why is it just these really esoteric things like PCP and KS and . This is the case in those children born with an immune defect. But all these internalized bacterial infections never have been part of the definition of AIDS. And this never happened. So knowing about evolutionary biology." Dr. Zenger's: I remember that was a question the AIDS experts got asked at some of the very early meetings. In order to explain failure to find a retrovirus that directly caused cancer. Lanka: That's not true. so people started to make money out of biological ideas. generalized bacterial infections. they are dying like flies. patients dying now like flies because they are having immune deficiency after an operation. The immune surveillance theory of cancer -. An embryonic cell goes into a unicellular state. as a matter of fact.was the basis of AIDS.care units. they were selling them to the market. They said if your immune functions are weak. of course. and an immune deficiency: when bacterial infections are taking over in your body. starting in the United States." what do you mean by that? Because virtually everything associated with AIDS is considered an "opportunistic infection. The immune system is carried out. you are able to explain everything. and due to the resistance catastrophe. It behaves like a unicellular organism.

Dr. or the People's Medical Dictionary: what do nitrites do in the body? They oxidize the blood. Especially in the case of fungi. because in higher concentrations it acts very aggressively. in order to control development. especially in the lungs. which may happen even when your detoxification system is not working on a cellular level. That means the blood itself is not able to transport oxygen. So. that PCP is a fungus. PCP can also happen in people who suffer extreme malnutrition. What are poppers? Nitrites. Without fungi. you put them in a warm. because these patients do suppress bacterial infections. if you're growing mushrooms. and fungal infections are growing on this dead organic matter. And that's it. in biology: to recycle. Those are unicellular organisms which came into existence in evolutionary times when there was not as much oxygen in the atmosphere as there is today. destroying everything. it was the children who suffered. It has to be detoxified by the body immediately. outside the water. This is why the "eating cells" of the immune system. do not appear because the immune functions are still well. Lanka: That's it. because you will suffer malnutrition. why they show up there. So they can only grow in people who are depleted of oxygen. Fungi came into existence after animal beings. their immunity is not known. even when the immune functions are absolutely perfect. all caused by bacterial infections.it means you start the self-destroying process in your own body. F. like we've had in Africa. This is why. Even so. the first cells to suffer are cells in the lung. Nitrites are transformed immediately into nitric oxide in the smallest capillars [capillaries?. They think they have the same immunity as bacterial cells. no plants would grow on earth. are releasing nitric oxide in high quantities in inflammation reactions: to destroy and digest the bacterial cells. The fungi invented enzymes which are even able to produce energy out of oxidizing. Nitric oxide is produced by the body in very low concentrations in order to control blood pressure. They feed on dead organic matter. All those 60 different kinds of lung disease we know by now. or from time to time -. excessive amounts of nitric oxide are produced -. If you look at who comes down with this disease.C.CMV and MAI and whatever? Dr.] of the body. And check every dictionary in the bookstore. when the wells had been poisoned by feces or meat from the civil wars or wars. their immunology. So if you take up nitrites regularly. And this was and is the most important AIDS-defining disease. dark place and fill them full of pieces of wood and bits of plants. and that's their task in evolution. you see people who are using poppers. But evolutionary biology answers these questions as well. immune functions are perfect. You are destroying your lung tissue. the macrophages. in the Middle Ages. The only diseases seen in people with AIDS are the ones tropical disease specialists have specialized in. turning blue -. definitely.when . Lanka: That's it. Zenger's: Which is why. It was already known by 1965.which means huge. because we have it in the children who suffer starvation because the detoxification system of the cells is very weak in children. So we have a direct toxic effect. This is the reason why PCP is not part of the AIDS definition in Africa. of course.this was called "the disease of the blues" -.

Lanka: Yes. We are aware of 5. no a form of sarcoma. because they have grown up or developed in a constant milieu where all the essential molecules have been available. here and now. There's a lack of oxygen. the penis is being erected.they drank water. Poppers act by the same mode.in all plants. you are in a very big danger. the definition of Kaposi' Sarcoma: when the lining -. because when they came into existence in the water. These polyphenols are nature's own protease inhibitors. where the nitrites are transformed into nitric oxide. but especially in herbs. but when your cellular detoxification system is not working anymore. the higher they produce polyphenols. So the term "AIDS" has to be replaced by the term "AEDS. so they have the advantage to use their energy. produced by nitrifying bacteria when the wells had been poisoned.develops into cancerous form. Animal beings are not able to produce three major classes of substances. by the way. There are very potent treatment options available to reverse those damages caused by intoxification or lack of oxygen.C. that blood is flowing in. Here. You can detect plants in front of radiation. The "AIDS" term is absolutely misleading because it has nothing to do with an immune defect or immune deficiency. When you take Viagra.the interior of the smallest vessels -. and this is defined as KS. It constantly persists at a very low level.000 different kinds of polyphenols produced in herbs -. and so the smallest vessels become relaxed. Animals are also not able to produce the long-chain sugar molecules which make up the . Animal beings didn't bother to build up three important groups of molecules on their own. Viagra works by preventing the neutralization of nitric oxide which comes into existence normally in the process of blood pressure regulation. if the blood has oxidized itself and the lining of the smallest vessels. because the detoxification systems of children are very low. but a real form of cancer. This is why the children starving heavily in Africa come down with PCP ever since. I can foresee. and the first cells to suffer this oxygen deficiency are the lining of the epithelium. AIDS is an energy deficiency problem.] ." and we would keep up the term "AIDS" only in the form of acquired intelligence deficiency syndrome. on all various levels. This is hyperplasia. and our muscles are relaxed. nitric oxide accumulates. F. "What is AIDS?" Dr. the smallest vessels. And this is. that people regularly using Viagra will be coming down with KS in two to three years because Viagra acts by blocking the neutralization of nitric oxide. what's going to happen? Those cells will turn into cancer cells. because the nitrites are transformed into nitric oxide in the smallest vessels. growing bigger and multiplying. But whereas poppers directly produce nitric oxide. It is clear that se are dealing with an energy deficiency. but if it accumulates. and it is treatable. Zenger's: So that's your bottom-line answer to the question. these substances were available. and in order to develop even more or quicker. AEDS has a rational basis. The higher they grow.e. relaxing the smooth muscles. also. So. is destroyed by nitric oxide. It can also come into existence even if you are not swallowing poppers. capillaries. because there were a lot of nitrites and nitrates inside. Among these substances animals cannot produce on their own are the polyphenols. as a matter of fact. which are vitamins. the capillars (i. evolutionary biology helps." "Acquired Energy Deficiency Syndrome. This is another aspect of evolution.

With this you can stop all forms of arthritis. because the artificial protease inhibitors cannot be digested. Then they intoxify the cells. Every cell is surrounded by these basic tissues. I think that completes the picture of what so-called "AIDS" really is and what you can do about it. you cannot understand life either. These tissues produce the constant milieu for the cells in the body -. The surfaces of the cells especially need those long-chain sugar molecules in order to prevent calcium from flowing inside the cell. which everybody's able to handle and be happy with. The artificial protease inhibitors only help you for short periods. apoptosis: that means inflammation. The body cannot get rid of them. All nerve cells end there. it cannot maintain its milieu.S. activating and deactivating.) or $40 (anywhere else) in U. because they prevent the digestion of all the proteins. right? So if the cell lacks these substances. San Diego. or catabolic situation -. Normally you get these substances from plants.when you lose more cells than the body's able to reproduce -.basic tissues that form up to 80 percent of our body weight. you get them from bovine cartilage or agar agar. Subscriptions to Zenger's are available by sending $25 (in the U. killing the cells. resulting in controlled cell death. Comments -----Original Message----From: Jim N Sent: May 6.S. etc. If those products are not there. And those molecules are potent protease inhibitors as well. especially cancer specialists. with the speed all biochemical reactions are triggered. They form crystals. If you don't know how life is organized on the tissue level. Box 50134. These basic tissues have a quasi-crystalline structure and they work by breaking. you're not able to understand cancer. several thousand times a second. O. oscillating. CA 92165. long-chain sugar molecules with proteins attached.and if you don't have them you are going automatically into disease. All immunological reactions are carried out there. funds to Zenger's. etc. and eventually they intoxify the whole cell and the whole organism on all levels. If you don't know how life is working on the cellular level. P. because not only are we deconstructing AIDS and offering another term. 2009 To: Editor Subject: article question . We are also offering very potent treatment options to replace these very dangerous protease inhibitors. We have reached the end. with the treatments. calcium is formed inside the cells. In any case of inflammation. two spoonfuls every morning. by the way. if you are depleted.you go in with this and it's going to help you. very quickly. In emergency cases.

Aids is a bioweapon to depopulate the earth." So he knew that there is no infection in his hospital. using a huge amount of blood samples. He knew everybody who went through chronic active hepatitis or had the hepatitis B vaccine would test "HIVpositive. Stefan Lanka using the latest darkfield and grayfrield microscopes or just the old electron microscopes? Do you think adding in competing schools of thought is just a disinformation compaign to confuse people since most people aren't going to have the proper scientific qualifications to find the whole truth. Kremer knew this already by 1984. Ken Adachi My name is Jim N and it seems like there is a lot of conflicting data on pathogens in the alternative medicine community. because there's no infectious entity out there.Dear. He was very worried about the fate of his patients.infectious. I think it would be really cool if guys like this debated rife researchers like Jeff Sutherland about viruses. and other researchers claim that aids is a bioweapon. C. The industry started to produce blood products on the basis of commercial blood donations. Mr. . Many viruses are fictitious diseases that do not really exist. I am getting awfully confused." If some viruses do not really exist then why are there pictures of moving bacteria and viruses online like this http://www. Lanka: Yes. which means to separate them from the other ones.youtube. pooling them all together in a large pool. or just some of them? Dr. For example on the article linked above he states: "Dr. He said no.com/ ? Why were the rife microscopes confiscated and destroyed? Why were the Albert Einstein electricity researchers silenced? Was Dr. It seems like there is some flaw in each school of thought.org/cn/stefanlankaviralfraudexposed04may09.grayfieldoptical. either? Dr. I have a question regarding this article on your website http://educate-yourself. because then it was much cheaper to get out all the various kinds of products. Dr. Lanka: That's it.com/watch?v=nIkYrAFfcqA&feature=related ? Or why does the grayfield company have video of moving organisms http://www. Zenger's: Are you saying that all forms of hepatitis are non. Zenger's: So there are no hepatitis viruses. Which school of thought do you think is correct regarding aids and viruses in general? It seems like there are 3 competing schools of thought regarding aids.shtml . there's no such thing as infectious hepatitis. because in 1984 the politicians asked him to put these already stigmatized "HIV-positive" patients into quarantine. The pleomorphic school of thought caused by excess toxicity and nutritional deficiency ( morphing somatids example flies attracted to a garbage dump a toxic body). How ridiculous. A. B. Hässig was always fighting to make sure that blood products were produced only on the basis of a small pool of donors who were young and healthy. Lanka: No. and even when they are qualified they won't have enough money for top of the line equipment like the grayfield? When this guy claims that viruses do not really exist.

Sincerly. which will include the very bioengineered NWO diseases which will eventually take you down. "A" is an accurate reflection of the manner in which NATURAL pathogenic organism can behave in a highly toxic intra cellular environment and can lead to cancers. are ALL CREATED in government-sponsored laboratories in an effort to TRY TO CREATE A "PANDEMIC" situation. weaponized anthrax. Lanka is to illustrate the depth and width of government and mainstream media's PROPAGANDA AND LIES concerning these fabircated and mysterious "disease" outbreaks. . but does not conflict with the statements of Lanka. but will also include your very own nano-size microchip implant. etc. but they CAN'T GET THESE ENGINEERED PATHOGENS TO "TAKE OFF". which is still posted to my web site. your life is no LONGER YOUR OWN. The purpose of posting the information from Dr. SARS. . This has nothing to do with bio-engineered "diseases" like AIDS. What is there to be confused about if you understand that the US government is being controlled by psychopathic satanists who are actively trying to DESTROY THE COUNTRY AND ITS PEOPLE? It's called "The New World Order" and I wrote an overview about their agenda and goals in 1996. Thanks for listening and have a nice day. weaponized Smallpox. etc) puts out to an unknowledgable and gullible public about "pandemics" which DO NOT and CANNOT EXIST. Once you're implanted with their microchip. that the researchers are talking about so I am only asking what your opinion on this matter is. You're mixing apples and oranges. flesh eating bacteria. Ebola. There are OTHER forces at work who are NEUTRALIZING the virulentcy of the concocted killers and rendering them relavtively harmless. West Nile virus. so to speak. etc.Please note that I'm not trying to be rude or anything. HIV. The government's purpose is to create the PRETEXT for MANDATORY VACCINATIONS. and C. "C" is an accurate assessment of the UNFOUNDED HYPE and DISINFORMATION that the government (CDC. etc. The debate is not among the three items you listed as A. Jim N *** Hi Jim. You are A SLAVE FROM THAT POINT FORWARD. I'm just a layman that does not possess the proper scientific qualifications to understand all of the stuff. Hanta Virus. "B" is also a correct statement. etc. B.

you won't be around that much longer to get "confused".youtube.You don't see the whole ocotopus. Consult the healer of your choice for medical care and advice. A 90 Second Primer on "Swine Flu" from Alan Park http://www. Only a licensed medical doctor can legally offer medical advice in the United States. . It is not to be construed as medical advice. Regards. You looking at one tentacle and getting "confused" Time to look at the whole picture and realize that the New World Order is rapidly decending upon us and unless you and a few million others wake up to that fact and do something concrete and effective to stop it.org All Rights Reserved.com/watch?v=RwhAwloUccs < Free Newsletter Email Address: Join the Educate-Yourself Discussion Forum All information posted on this web site is the opinion of the author and is provided for educational purposes only. no disrepect intended. Ken © Copyright 2009 Educate-Yourself.

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