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[Episode 38] Removing the REAL Inner Barriers to your Success with Tom Stone
Removing the REAL Inner Barriers to your Success with Tom Stone [Episode 38] Wired For Success [0:00:12] Melanie: Welcome everyone to another episode of http://www.wiredforsuccess.tv. Today, my co-host, Beryl, and I will be interviewing Tom Stone. Tom is a man of many talents and skills and has been called a genius by Tom Leonard of CoachVille who is in fact the father of coaching itself. In fact, I’m going to start my introduction of Tom by reading something Jack Canfield, author of Chicken Soup for the Soul series, had to say about him. Jack says, “Tom Stone has done something quite unique. He has distilled out of his vast experience the simplest and most useful tools for creating profound and lasting change in our lives.” Jack continues, “I’m truly grateful to Tom for his help in my own life and I’m delighted that he’s sharing his insights and techniques to help others on a large scale. I know his desire is very similar to mine, to have a positive impact on the lives of many, many people. I know that through his pioneering work in Human Software Engineering, he will accomplish his goal in a profound and powerful way.” Tom is also an internationally acclaimed speaker, seminar presenter, inventor, entrepreneur and author of numerous books. We will touch on some of those books especially The Power of How and Vaporize Your Anxiety. Today, we want to talk to Tom about his pioneering work in the emerging and new field of Human Software Engineering. Human Software Engineering is an extraordinary technology that now makes possible changes in human life that we could only find in science fiction movies in the past. And all these things are now becoming a present day reality. Out of this technology has emerged a series of profound insights into the nature of human conditioning and that has resulted in Tom’s proprietary work, The Core Dynamics of Human Conditioning. This work provides the
It’s great to be here. The Keeper of the Keys with Jack Canfield. And of course. The assistant surgeon who attended me after my first surgery.tv . John Gray and Marci Shimoff. 3 http://www. And we’ve known each other for quite some years now. Melanie: We’re delighted to have here as well. I think one of the really important experiences that I had that was at the bases of getting the insights and really compelled me to find the insights for developing these marvelous new techniques that you’re just mentioning was back in 1993. So I was living in Iowa. I had my own personal Pearl Harbor. 1993 actually. And one night. he said. thank you Mel. Pearl Harbor Day. we must not forget to mention that Tom has co-starred in recently released movie. pulled out a . ten years or more and I’ve seen the evolution of a Human Software Engineering and the Core Dynamics. Tom. in a small town of about ten thousand people. Mel. I mean the bullet is like that big. they’re going to be foundational to your initiative for emotional competence and emotional mastery which you’re promoting at the moment and we’ll speak about later. limits their potential and keeps them from having the life they’ve been longing for. Hunters used these kinds of guns for killing bears and it’s just amazing. I thought I’d let you tell your own story because it’s so rich. And a . Tom: Well. ADD and ADHD.44 caliber handgun and shot me on the chest. Tom: Thank you. a deranged stranger came to my front door. in the middle of the United States. I had a very bizarre personal experience. how you’ve come to be where you are now pioneering for an emotionally free-willed.44 is a pretty big gun. please tell the viewing public a bit about who you are. So welcome. Tom.wiredforsuccess. before we dive in. it was December 7.tools for wiping out the blocks that weigh people down. Thanks for having me on. your background and in fact. So Tom. and posttraumatic stress disorder. And it hit me right in the chest and it’s a total miracle that it didn’t kill me. And of course. You’re going to be really amazed to learn how effectively these tools can transform your life and lead to solutions of seemingly intractable problems that plague modern society such as depression.
I mean you still keep your emotional pain or trauma or anxiety or whatever it is you have.” I said. when you get really close. But if we got really close. I was able to discover that if we did the opposite. I wanted to find a way to really cure it. “Excuse me? I just got shot in the chest. But in addition and even more than that. anxiety. And I was already quite interested in alternative therapies and things of that nature and I knew that the traditional cognitive therapy and the drug therapies were not for me. tight ball or knot-like feeling inside but the structure is like a hurricane and if you get really close to it. you can find there’s a little opening 4 http://www. And so. what I discovered was that all of these traumatic energies have a structured. And I was extremely fortunate to discover two things.” And I said. really close to it which to the 3-year-old in us does not sound like a good idea.“Tom. and trauma and so forth. In that context. And neither of those approaches are very effective. So. one in a hundred thousand people would survive it and one in a million would come out with no loss of organs or limbs or anything like you’ve done. What we’re deeply conditioned to do is to go away from where emotional pain is intensely held in the body or to collapse into it and be swept away into the catharsis of depression. if we got closer to the energy rather than go away from it.” He said. And this set of insights gives us the understanding of why human beings are so lousy at resolving emotional pain. They have this sort of swirly.tv . “If you’re going to get shot on the chest at close range with .” But needless to say. Explain what you mean by lucky. intense. I went looking for something with which I could truly cure myself of the trauma. I understand what you mean. One was a set of very penetrating insights into the nature of human conditioning that you mentioned in my introduction called the Core Dynamics of Human Conditioning. bring your awareness closer to it. which is totally counter conditioning.44. I didn’t want to just cope with it and take drugs for the rest of my life or just be constantly compensating in some way. I was extremely fortunate to discover that what we needed to do is to learn how to do the exact opposite of what we’re deeply conditioned to do. I was a bit traumatized by this event. you’re really quite lucky. “OK. if we got really. natural energy structure to them that’s very much like a hurricane or tornado.wiredforsuccess.
you can complete the incomplete experience that the body is holding there and when you’re done. And that’s what I learned how to do is that by skydiving into this eye of the hurricane of the energy and just feeling down the center. really quite relatively easily. 5 http://www. No more flashbacks. Now. He was one of the first breakthroughs in terms of getting the word out to the whole coaching community. All the PTSD symptoms completely resolved. we want to complete the incomplete experience in a highly efficient and effective way. I was able to completely cure my own posttraumatic stress with these techniques. An emotional completion where you actually complete the incomplete experience of the energy that the body is producing there and the thing is. No more startled response. It’s incredible. the energy dissipates and moves away from you and then when it’s gone. You’re doing it in a way that it’s the easiest and has the greatest efficacy. And the reason is that there is a difference between emotional suppression which everybody is really good at that doesn’t work because they just keep the emotion.right in the center of the most intense part of the energy and it’s just like the eye of a hurricane. It doesn’t have to produce anymore and it stops and it’s gone. I was then couldn’t help but start sharing those good results with other people and a whole series of things evolved over time of developing a business and meeting Tom Leonard like you said. And then there have been numerous other people who have picked up on this work. And so. But I’ve been inside hundreds of the eye of the hurricane of these traumatic energies that are held in the body and indeed it is calm in there.tv . Once you get inside the eye. it’s actually completely gone and that one doesn’t come back.wiredforsuccess. the body gets it that you got every particle of experiential wisdom that you’ve milked from the experience. And from that. So very quickly. what you’re actually doing is capturing the essence of the experience of the energy that the body is trying to bring you but you’re doing it in a way that’s the least difficult. you sort of float down the center of this vortex that is the eye of the hurricane and when you come out the bottom. I’ve never been inside the eye of an actual hurricane but I’m told it’s calm in there. No more nightmares.
There’s a nice clip you can see of him talking about himself. people all have the same challenges. And the results are so phenomenal that I’ve been inspired to launch a global campaign for emotional competence which you were mentioning at the beginning.tv . everywhere in the world. for 40 years. a little bit more about the campaign and how you’re setting this up because I mean this whole thing to people who have not known about this. training people in emotional competence in New Zealand. lots of places. 40 plus years. we got rid of the trauma and that night. in the United States. who had nightmares every night for 43 years and within one session. [Movie clip playing] [0:10:16 to 0:10:59] “Fifteen years ago. It doesn’t seem to matter what culture or language. amazed and enthralled and really interested again and he said. any noise. But I haven’t been able to sleep like I want to say. I have been teaching seminars.And we’ve seen such incredible results all over the world. hypervigilance. I slept nine hours that night. yeah. now you mentioned this campaign. And so. “Well. I was diagnosed with PTSD.” Tom: And the other kinds of experiences that I’ve been having with people all over the world. Working with a Vietnam veteran for example. Nightmares. normal person.wiredforsuccess. light. I’m in Switzerland at the moment. he slept nine hours for the first time in 43 years. that’s what I’m basically doing now is spreading the word and training people to upgrade their emotional competence and be able to really resolve their emotions rather than continuing to just be the victims of them. Again. And I’ve seen such incredible results with these techniques just universally. how would you like to sleep eight hours?” Well. a fellow named Ernie. now all over Europe. they must find it as fantastic as I did ten years ago and it hadn’t even evolved into this state yet. I’m giving seminars throughout the German-speaking countries as well as the Netherlands and even Slovenia. Melanie: So can you tell us a little bit. How is that campaign being made accessible to people? How is it being set up? 6 http://www. something would wake me up and then it’s very difficult to go back to sleep.
I am teaching them. So cleaning those out. Emotional Mastery is what we call the seminar in the German-speaking world because Free to Succeed doesn’t translate well into German. 80 percent this guy was estimating. emotional mastery depending on the culture and the particular way we’re doing it. He’s got the largest ICF-certified coach training company in China and he wants to be my ambassador for China and partner with me to get China emotionally competent too. And what I’m finding is that very large number of people at the seminar has become interested in becoming a teacher of the seminar. Crime is the extreme outbursting of inability to deal with one’s emotions.wiredforsuccess. 80 or 85 percent he was estimating of diseases caused by emotional problems. Somebody is feeling so desperate that they have to do something like commit a crime because they don’t know how to resolve their feelings of frustration or disappointment or anger or whatever it happens to be. So it’s really clear that emotional incompetence is really at the bases of many of society’s worst problems and quite frankly. we’re really doing this all over the world.tv . It’s a very exciting prospect because really. really at the bases of pretty much all of our own personal problems as well. one of them we call Free to Succeed. A whole host of health problems are either caused or complicated by unresolved emotional energies. Addictions are all forms of attempting to self-medicate to not feel the emotional pain because people don’t know how to resolve it. So. I have an invitation from the leading coach trainer in China.Tom: Right. So we’re training the planets to train thousands of teachers and have seminars for training people in becoming emotionally competent available everywhere on the planet eventually. emotional incompetence is very clear that this is really the root of pretty much all the major problems we have in society. which basically means being able to access and resolve the kind of emotions that caused you to not think straight and make a decision so you don’t succeed in your life so well. But then I’m also training teachers of the seminars. And so we teach these seminars in various parts of the world. What we’re doing is I’ve been giving workshops and seminars on emotional competence. I’ve read on one website the other day. 7 http://www.
frustration.tv . 8 http://www. emotional pain. Tom? Tom: Yeah. this is a setup for becoming really lousy at resolving anxiety. I mean people go into these reactive emotions like frustration and anger and disappointment and anxiety and they think that this is just normal like this is just normal functioning just because it’s just common place and people don’t have any other frame of reference so they think it’s normal. It’s just part of being human. I make the distinction between useful and not useful emotions. what kind of nanny or even in the best of households. So are you saying Tom. of feeling of voidance. anything. joy. a much better distinction than good or bad or positive or negative. trauma. at the essence of people’s emotional incompetence which is pretty universal. Useful emotions. So I’m thinking about people who have been labeled with things like borderline personality disorder which leads to all kinds of difficulties for them in society. I’m thinking of people who are alcoholics who just go back to alcohol time and time and again. Would you just like to expound on that. Before we even develop language. I found that we hate it so much that we make a decision and it’s interesting that we make this decision even before we’ve developed language and that it’s a decision to kind of put a lid on accessing our natural capacity to feel just in an attempt to not get overwhelmed because we had the experience of being overwhelmed so much. It’s like – and it doesn’t matter what kind of household you grow up in. I understand that a lot of these problems come from childhood and you called it arrested development. we all have experiences of being emotionally overwhelmed. anger. Vaporize Your Anxiety. I call all these kinds of emotions not useful emotions.wiredforsuccess. that there are many people who sadly are written off because there doesn’t seem to be anything that can really help them. Reading your fabulous book. I don’t tend to really use the psychological terms like arrested development but it’s not a bad term that at the bases. Actually. So we rapidly develop a deep form of conditioning. And I’ve yet to meet anybody who likes it. And so. disappointment. is essentially one very simple form of pre-verbal conditioning. we think of things like love.Beryl: Yes. people can get emotionally overwhelmed. Everybody. it’s a common place but it’s absolutely subnormal. Now. I call it the core dynamic of resisting feeling things fully.
these are the traumatic and emotionally painful experiences of the past where something was just too much for us and we couldn’t it process it at the time and so. some of them weaker. So even things we would normally consider negative can actually be useful emotions. the body is continuing to produce the energy of that emotion and we’re continuing to try and suppress it and keep from having to experience it and there we are. Reactive emotions are where we’re making up a story about something and then having an emotion to the story we’re making up. People – there are actually two basic categories of not useful emotions. So for example. It doesn’t have anything to do with this moment. And it does quite quickly and I believe you’ve even experienced it a little bit. some of them stronger. But intellectually understanding that we’re having been creating the story we’re making up in our mind doesn’t stop us from doing it because it’s a deeply conditioned way of being. thank God the body has the innate intelligence to generate energy of fear and motivate us to move. So these are not actually intellectual problems and this is why traditional coaching and therapy are usually very slow and not particularly effective at dealing with these kinds of problems.wiredforsuccess. The other category is what I call reactive emotions. And the book that we held up. If a train is coming and we’re on the railroad tracks. the emotion is gone. What’s needed is an experiential answer.tv . and so forth. The story we have in mind. it’s because we’re projecting the possibility of a negative outcome on to the future. 9 http://www. an experiential intervention and that’s what the techniques that I’ve developed do is they resolve the experience of the energy of the emotion and when the energy is gone. But even fear can be useful under certain circumstances. Vaporize Your Anxiety Without Drugs or Therapy goes into this in great detail. if we’re anxious about something. And we all have a whole database of those. our incomplete experiences. One. But the not useful emotions are the vast majority of the emotions that people have.happiness. The problem of projecting possible negative outcomes on to the future is that we’re then having a fear reaction to something that doesn’t even exist.
And I want you to share with us why this is different from other 10 http://www. So it was probably as you’re saying. And the talking. Tom. because if you suffer any kind of anxiety. I had steeled myself to go deep into the emotion and I didn’t even know what it was. it would be life-saving. And actually. put me through some of what you do. the talking about your problem is so boring year after year. It’s very interesting to listen to that clip because I read recently that more soldiers die from their own hand. Get this book because for many people.wiredforsuccess. from suicide than they actually do on the battlefield. what was making me feel so anxious year after year waking up feeling anxious. And let me just touch on what you said about the veteran. The average in the US with the returning vets is unfortunately up to 19 a day and it’s really an atrocity. in just a few minutes. you do feel that weird felling of dropping through and actually being – you can’t kind of get hold of any of that old problem because you didn’t know what it was anyway. And it seems too in a sense make it more your own and give you a label which then seems – it’s just a weird thing. Tom.” I am trained as a yoga teacher and I was always taught. Tom: Yeah. anyone who is watching this. the overwhelm that I felt as a child with certain situations and that continued through my adult life and I would not be able to cope with situations and I go into the overwhelm. it can help to pacify you for a little while but it’s like putting a band-aid on it. I want to bring in something else because I know other therapists will be watching this and I’ve trained in lots of different things. There’s so much I could say on this because it made such a difference to me. the breathing will help you. “We have been conditioned to run away from feeling the feelings. It just really is. It doesn’t seem to help in any way and yet. But with Melanie. Yeah. couldn’t cope with that so I ran in the opposite direction instead of what Melanie forced me to do which was to experience it. Well.tv .Beryl: I have. get this book at Amazon. Beryl: OK. what I discovered is you don’t need to know what the story. And actually. let me show it again. you’re absolutely right. Tom. yeah. these are the traditional tools but this book. I have to say I’ve been blessed that Melanie has taught me. And what I would say is it’s very interesting what – I want to pick-up when you say.
Tom? Tom: Sure. within a matter of a handful of sessions. I was interested in getting to the very deepest causal level of the problem. 11 http://www. when I was interested in developing these as I was recovering from my own PTSD. it’s a great way to get fabulous referrals too. much more complete. it was by virtue of really getting to an understanding. So they’re not practitioner-dependent which is very nice once the person has learned them. And yet.therapies. not keeping them. And this is what led to gradually. flashbacks. In any case. What I can say to start as an answer to that is that people who have done EFT and EMDR and a whole range of these different kinds of modalities which are good techniques but when they learn how to do the Pure Awareness techniques which is what I call the techniques that I teach. much simpler. Basically. over many years of researching it at a very interesting and effective way it has led to these insights that we call The Core Dynamics of Human Conditioning.wiredforsuccess. these veterans and also crime victims and rape victims that we’re worked with. the startled response. Tom: Yeah. And actually. So not the talking therapies now. all the PTSD symptoms. all these different aspects until the problem is like cut off from the root. So could you tell us how what you do is different from that. earthquake victims down in Christchurch in New Zealand that I worked at last year. they have a tendency to use them in preference over anything else they’ve been doing because what they find is that they’re much more thorough. and that they even teach their client to become self-sufficient so that they can do these techniques on their own. I have a philosophy of graduating clients. And so. PTSD is considered pretty much incurable by most of the therapy community. what we learn in tapping is there are different aspects to a problem and you have to chip away all of them. nightmares.tv . all these symptoms are going away. I’m talking about something like an energy therapy like tapping for example. people’s PTSD is going away. the theoretical part of why this is so effective. conceptual understanding of what it is that truly causes people to have these problems and have such resistance to getting over them. Beryl: OK? Because tapping.
Melanie: OK. Tom: I’ll work with either of you. So I’ll let you choose what you think would be appropriate and whether you just want to work sort of generically or work with one of us or I don’t know. We don’t call it therapy. one session. We’re talking about it with talk therapy. So Human Software Engineering is a new technology. The problem with talk therapy is that intellectually understanding why you have the problem that you either did or whatever to when you were little. will be amazed by what you’re saying. the five traumas that were creating the nightmares were gone and that night. Melanie: Beryl? 12 http://www. So. you still have the problem. he slept nine hours for the first time in 43 years. is it going to be appropriate to perhaps do a demo of it or would it take too long? Tom: I’d be delighted to do that. We call it training and this is because we want people to learn these life skills and have the tools to just stop being the victims of their emotions and start to live an emotionally competent. is it appropriate at this point because there are going to be people who are listening to this and perhaps be a bit – well. it’s not really the case that these things are incurable. And in one session. He had been in cognitive therapy for 17 years and he still has these nightmares. not therapy even though it has an incredibly powerful therapeutic effect much more so than many other things that are called therapy. Melanie: Tom. But if the unresolved traumatic energy or whatever is still present in you.tv . emotionally masterful life.And so. it’s – this is a new technology and it’s a technology based on the insight of getting to the deepest causal level. it’s like that’s interesting and it brings some intellectual relief. What’s the case is that the tools that have been being used are not particularly effective.wiredforsuccess. It’s a new technology of consciousness and we consider it to be training. true causal level of what is at the bases of people’s problems.
things like that and so. Tom: OK.Tom: If you have a challenge in your life at the moment where you’d like to get a breakthrough. So we can test and see. MRI. you’re in London. This actually can be done at a distance like where I’m in Switzerland. Beryl: Does it work with a physical pain. This is Newton’s third law of motion. Melanie. Biomechanical is surgery and chiropractic and exercise.tv . Beryl: Perfect. And in fact. Beryl. It’s – we’ve taken this concept and refined it and figured out how to make it a method of making one’s intuitive knowing very. With your permission. The next level is Bio-energetic. I’ve read an ebook 13 http://www. I have a model in Human Software Engineering called The Levels of Life and there are five levels. Things like homeopathy and in Germany. the things that you can do are different. It can actually be done at a distance. lasers. Biochemistry is obviously diet nutrition supplements. I can do this testing on you. We have a way of testing to see whether it will or not. And the first one was called Bio-awareness. every action has an equal and opposite reaction. And this is where we have technologies probably like CAT scan. And when that’s the case then we can use these techniques to resolve it. I have? So that’s OK with you. And it’s normally called muscle testing. This is an upgrade. And then Bio-environmental which is the returning influence of our own past actions. sometimes problems need an intervention at that kind of level. Tom: OK.wiredforsuccess. So we have a method of testing for this that we call the Precision Intuition Tool. Tom? Tom: Sometimes. So at each level. x-ray. This is where the problem is caused by trauma or anxiety or something like that. something called bioresonance therapy that these are technologies that work at the Bio-energetic level with electromagnetic fields. if what – where is your physical pain? Beryl: I have – it’s all down this left side of my face. of the older one. The next level is Biochemistry and then Biomechanical for surgery. very precise.
OK? So do you feel it now? Beryl: Yeah. my trapezius muscle wasn’t strong enough to hold my body and it would damage maybe the trigeminal nerve. So this is good. So if it’s going straight like that. what I’d like you to do is to notice the area of the sensation and notice that there’s a field of energy there. you can feel it now. Good. this is easiest done with your eyes closed. And within the 14 http://www. This is principally being caused at a Bio-awareness level. No.tv . Tom: You strained something. Tom: It comes and goes. And so. the CORE technique which is one of the Pure Awareness techniques for seeing if we can deal with this situation. This is a strong response so it’s a yes. Yeah? OK. And so. that would be a no. Tom: And if you were to close your eyes.wiredforsuccess. Tom: Any injury or anything like that associated with do you remember? Beryl: I think there was.on it called Developed Precision Intuition. There is some other significant contributing level. And you have this problem for how long? Beryl: Probably about three to four years. I think it was from doing too much plow in my yoga a few years ago and I had a lot of swelling around this part of the eye and it was like – my chiropractor said. yeah? Beryl: I can feel it now. I’ll just test on your behalf from the levels of life this pain that you’re experiencing on the side of your head. I had a trauma. This means we can approach this with the techniques and the likelihood of our getting a result is quite good. it comes and goes. The testing that we’re going to use. Tom: And do you feel it all the time or most of the time? Beryl: No.
tv . there is an area within the field where it’s more concentrated or intense than elsewhere. And notice how the energy of the feeling that was there is sort of dissipating and moving away almost like the fog burning off in the morning sun. there’s a little opening like the top of an eye of a hurricane. OK. So when the energy has pretty well dissipated. But we want to get closer because it’s in fully feeling this in a very efficient way that we’re going to be able to resolve it.wiredforsuccess. Tom: That’s it. great. you go there and notice the area where the energy is the most intense and bring your awareness closer and closer to that are where the intensity is the greatest. This is the part that’s very much contrary to our conditioning. Tom: Yeah. So bring your awareness closer and closer to that. This may feel a little odd at first because it will actually increase the intensity of the experience. spacious quietness.field. It’s like jittering. kind of an epicenter or fountain head of where the energy seems to be emanating from. Once you find it. dive in to the center of that opening and let yourself just float down the vortex of the eye all the way to the bottom of the energy field. Can you feel that? Beryl: Yeah. you can open your eyes. So bring your awareness closer to that. Yeah. the experience will change. 15 http://www. Beryl: It feels like I’m swimming in the sea actually. Change is good. Beryl: It’s very calming. And when you get to the bottom of the vortex or you come out the bottom. So wherever it goes. It’s moving up here now. Tom: This is good. Tom: Exactly. you will be able to find. just right there. But notice it’s quite possible that it’s OK to do that. And you’ll find that that’s not difficult. the exact opposite of what we’re conditioned to do or we’re conditioned to go away from it. exactly that. If you get close enough. It will feel like you’re coming out of the energy field into kind of expansive. Yeah? Beryl: And it moves.
Beryl: Wow. Click in close. Tom: Yeah. Tom: Very good. this whole area. Tom: Let’s go to that area and do exactly the same thing. It’s trying to get away – it feels like it’s trying to get away from me.OK. Let’s go to that area and do exactly the same thing. Do like when you are in Google Maps and click in for a closer view. Tom: Something is waking up actually. Beryl: That sounds like me. Beryl: It just feels like a tingliness like – not a painful thing but just like a very nervy kind of light tingly feeling. So if you scan the whole area now. I think you have a little backup copies stored on another part of brain. Beryl: OK. Yeah. you’re faster than it though. Beryl: That was more powerful. Let’s check it out. Tom: And when you came out of the bottom. Like something’s changed.tv . Dive in and glide down the center to the bottom. Beryl: Yeah. Tom: Yeah.wiredforsuccess. there are layers to this kind of energy or like I said backup copies. very good. There’s like a little bit of something but it’s hardly noticeable. Find the center of intensity again. Very good. Get close enough that you can find that opening. It’s moving. How’s the sensation in the area? Beryl: There’s just a little bit of – it’s moved. Tom: OK. Sometimes. do feel that sort of expansive quietness? Nice. that’s moving. It’s settled now. Any pain left? 16 http://www.
increased number of categories of traumas and the increase in all kinds of both mental and physical health problems so that we now have a massive study with over 17. Tom: Speaking of physical thing. And fibromyalgia in this case. And this guy. And of course.000 participants that proves beyond a doubt this connection between the unresolved trauma and the health problems. They’re both the insurer and the healthcare provider. he couldn’t resist but take my meaning. not even instances.tv . And all the medications. dear. The guy who referred her to me. No. Tom: We need to do something about the tingliness. I’ve met him and he referred this one patient to me with fibromyalgia. I think you’re in good shape. She was referred by the head of Preventive Medicine at Kaiser Permanente which is a big hospital. the woman had throughout her whole torso and back just constantly in pain. The concept of this study was to actually quantify how much the unresolved traumas of childhood were contributing to health problems. everything didn’t work and she – for several years. he’s one of the co-principal investigators of a study called the ACE Study.wiredforsuccess. just this tingliness. this guy named Dr. So I’ve met Dr. just categories. Tom. And he referred this patient to me with fibromyalgia. It’s actually called an HMO. I had a client came once. Tom: Marvelous. Health Maintenance Organization. And what they’ve found is there is an absolute graded correlation between the increase number of categories of traumas. It’s a famous study on Adverse Childhood Experiences. Vincent Felitti. maybe he’d like to do a research on a promising potential solution to this problem. Beryl: Which actually feels quit nice. Beryl: Thank you. which stands for Center of the Remaining 17 http://www.Beryl: No. Felitti because I read an article that he wrote and I went and talked to him about my technology because I said. that’s the ACE. it’s called The CORE Technique. the Kaiser had not been really able to do anything for her. I taught her the same technique we just taught to you.
it’s just not possible. thousands of years. “What have you done with my wife?” And I said.tv . This is fantastic and thank you for that experience. By the time I was 22. Well. And I ended up feeling like a bit of a failure somehow that I couldn’t heal myself with this wonderful meditation. Beryl: OK. And I can see there are many positive things for meditation for many people.” Her wife entered behind him and she said. I was teaching meditation. I want to ask you about meditation if I may. I started transcendental meditation and then I went and I became trained as a teacher of transcendental meditation by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. We’re told to sit and meditate for half an hour and that will help my anxiety.wiredforsuccess. which is a perfect description of the technique. can you talk about this idea that because meditation has been around for so many decades. “It’s true. I feel like confident to say this because as I told you. “Oh God!” And he said. However. So I’ve taught hundreds of people to meditate and I’ve been involved with a – I was involved with a TM Movement for great many years. So I taught her the technique and we resolved a couple of her pains in her body and I then sent her home with the assignment to do this a couple of times a day for 20 minutes and come back in two weeks. she’d just done the CORE technique and all her fibromyalgia pain completely gone. I never felt meditation helped my anxiety. that that is the magical tool? Can you talk about how perhaps things are changing right now and we’re in a very different place in the world of new energies. literally because we’re all energy. One session in two weeks I’ve worked on her. I even 18 http://www. It’s a great – I love acronyms and that’s a great one.Energy. it’s interesting you should ask it in this way because I do have some unique qualification for being able to talk about this. Can you talk about because I know you have some views about this. It is completely gone. When I was 19. And her husband walked in first. “All her pain is gone. And he walked in and he said. In fact. can talk about that. Tom? Tom: Well.” In two weeks. when your mind is going off in all directions. I’m trained as a yoga teacher so part of that is meditation. She came back in two weeks and she brought her husband. are coming in that we can utilize. And this might ruffle some feathers for some viewers and I apologize now.
And what my experience was is that even with 25 years of meditating. “He didn’t say any of them.tv . Well. “You all have the consciousness but you don’t enjoy it because of your habits. the university campus one day. And it was only when I actually learned and developed this CORE technique that I was able to come out of the grip of emotions for it really have a way out of that for the first time. And apparently Maharishi’s response to him and the whole group as my friend said.lived in Fairfield. Now I think it’s called Maharishi University of Management. This was back in the early ‘90s before I got shot actually. it was from that moment on that the whole focus of my life basically was to figure that out. why it is that people are so lousy at resolving their emotional problems? And how can we upgrade that? How can we learn a new skill. What’s going on?” Maharishi was certainly shocked with this. So I lived there for a long time. And so. I get it. I’ve been meditating regularly for 25 years and I’m not feeling particularly enlightened. the research that I was doing to recover from my own PTSD was that I’m very centrally part of this. “Oh.” And so then I was waiting like with bated breath. I was a chatting with a friend of mine over on the campus. what are the habits and how do you break them? He said. I used to still get caught up in my emotions. And you have to break those habits that are keeping you from enjoying the consciousness that you already have. He said. And I was chatting with him about his recent trip to Switzerland where Maharishi was living at the time and he’d been in a meeting with a whole group of long-term teachers of meditation and some guy in the meeting apparently had the audacity to stand up and asked Maharishi. I was looking for how it is. And I had another fascinating experience. It’s actually my job to figure out what these habits are and what the best ways to break them up. OK. Iowa where the TM Movement had built – actually purchased a defunct university and converted it into Maharishi International University.” Here in this moment.wiredforsuccess. 19 http://www. “Maharishi. he said. I’ll just relate a little short story because this quite addresses the topic that you’re bringing up here.” And so. a new way of being able to resolve these things? And I’m so incredibly fortunate to discover this stuff. I had the sort of epiphany that.
It feels like something is going on in the back of my eye but it’s a nice feeling. we understand the inner emotional landscape picture much better than in the past. The energy fields are quite different. tingliness is actually in my eyes. We used the CORE technique to resolve the incomplete experiences and we use something called the C Technique to resolve the reactive emotions but that’s another whole story. we’ve resolved the problem that you’ve had for – how many years you’ve had it? 20 http://www. “I still get depression. I mean that took some minutes and how is it now. It feels like a letting go. So now. maybe 80 percent of them raised their hands. “How many of you still get anxious?” And many of them.” It’s like meditation is wonderful and I’m a big advocate of it but there’s a difference between contacting pure awareness through meditation and actually targeting the very barriers to being able to maintain that experience of pure awareness all the time which is basically our two databases of not useful emotions. So we need two different techniques because there are two categories of not useful emotions. And I noticed. But when we target the emotional energy and we resolve it just as we did in the energy that was held on your own face here. Iowa a couple of summers ago and I gave a presentation in a workshop there and I asked the people there who have been meditating 30 years. They’re fast.wiredforsuccess. It moved it. by the way? Beryl: Now. 35 years or whatever. And then the Pure Awareness Techniques are the best ways to break them that I’ve been able to discover. I went back to Fairfield. Tom: Marvelous. And it took many years to discover those patterns. the set of insights into the nature of human conditioning. So you could see that in just a few minutes of doing something that’s the opposite of what you’re deeply conditioned to do. We know that we have this accumulation of reactive emotions and incomplete experiences. these are the habits that I was looking. They’re thorough. And they’re vey permanent. That’s great.The CORE Dynamics that we’ve mentioned a couple of times. It’s the inside into the deepest causal level of these problems like this resistance to feelings is just one of twelve of them. They’re efficient.tv .
the children get a weakening influence that the TB has had on the parent and that get passed on for many. many generations. There is also another category in the Bio-energetic realm. we have a technique now using a technology called The WaveMaker Pro or RemiWave Pro. It may even become almost like a permanent part of the epigenetic gene picture. So this is another aspect of Human Software Engineering. But in any case. ADHD symptom picture just is gone.wiredforsuccess. It’s amazing. where we can electronically invert and cancel out the energy of this little disruptive pattern of energy.tv . And the problem of having to reread stuff just vanishes. there are a couple different versions of it. This is very [inaudible] [0:46:40]. they have to – they get distracted and they have to reread it again to get the meaning or they’re a little bit more out of focus. Tom: Four years and resolved in 10 minutes. One of the wonderful things about Human Software Engineering is we consider all problems to just be patterns of energy and information. And there’s lots of research to substantiate that this is the case. It turns out that the cause of it is an inherited residual influence of tuberculosis. When a person has TB and survives it long enough to have children. the majority of them are these not useful emotions that I was just talking about. Fantastic. bugs in our inner human software like the inherited residual influence of the disease tuberculosis for example. yeah. This is so common about 60 to 70 percent of the population has this. We don’t know how long. What I had to do when I started to create the concept of Human Software Engineering. And what we want to do is to approach them in the right way. 21 http://www. Beryl: And I never had to talk about my traumas. the first question is what are the bugs in our human software? And in fact. It’s like in 20 minutes the whole sort of ADD.Beryl: Three or four years. It’s almost literally like running antivirus software on all 50 trillion cells in the body. Tom: Yeah. It’s amazing. many. Great many people have the problem of when they’re reading something.
writing – I mean I was trying to write books for years and I even hired ghost writers and paid them thousands of dollars and I couldn’t get it done. I’ve written and published ten books and it’s totally effortless. Beryl: That’s stunning.We are making contribution with the Bio-awareness level of life and with the Bio-energetic level of life. And when we invert and cancel out that energy. And since then. Melanie: Well. the inward pulling part stops and the ability to focus becomes effortless. I mean I never ever – because I’ve always have this issue of losing concentration and having to go back and 22 http://www.tv . you read the next word. Well.” Beryl: Wow! Wow! Tom: My first book was written like that. it’s time to write a book on the Pure Awareness Techniques. 60. I mean like I said. And try to focus and read and the body is pulling the awareness in that it’s like you read the word. Obviously. These are the two levels where Human Software Engineering is making contributions to human life. So all these children in America being medicated for attention-deficit disorder. you get the meaning. when you read a word and the body is pulling the awareness in and you missed the meaning and now you have to go and read the whole thing again because it broke the hold of the meaning. And not just reading improves. Unbelievable. Tom. Tom: Yeah. a few months after I debugged myself with the TB [indiscernible] [0:49:33]. you get the meaning.wiredforsuccess. you read the next word. 70 percent of the people have this problem. I woke up one Sunday morning about 4:00 o’clock and I said. And this is so common. what it’s reminding me. you get the meaning. Boom! Like total focus. And what the stimulant does is it gives them more ability to compensate and overcome – there’s an inward pulling influence of the residual effect of the tuberculosis because it weakens certain organs and systems and it’s pulling the awareness in to try to heal that. “Oh. Beryl: I need that help and then I could get on with my blog writing a whole lot better. the medications are stimulants. And a few months after I debugged my human software.
So we’re very excited about that. So a couple of things here I want to mention. I want to ask you and we didn’t check this with you before but I’m sure you’re going to say yes. There will be details on our site very soon.reread again.wiredforsuccess. We could go on. all this work we’ve done with you during the training. This is going to be a London event and of course. we’re fingers crossed for that. So that’s going to be called Living Without Limits. in the flesh as it were. One is the very exciting news that you are coming to London to be a keynote speaker for Melanie and I at our first Wired for Success event. Will you come back and talk to us again before we run that seminar? Will we have another interview because there’s so much more that – yeah. I know you will because there’s so much more that we could explore. But what I’m remembering Tom is hang on. I have no idea how long we’ve been talking for. it obviously had got cleared. So … 23 http://www. Melanie: Just over an hour actually. Beryl: Here’s the thing. So. So. I hope you are. This has been just wonderful and there aren’t really the words to say. So very exciting times. Tom. Tom: Of course. it never occurred to me it was a problem because it’s always been there. Beryl: So.tv . And obviously. this is going to be probably the soonest opportunity people will have to experience your work live as it were. It’s a delight to be on your show and I also would like to talk about what I love doing. I’d love to. this hasn’t been there for a while. Beryl: And you are coming at the end of April or the 27th or 28th of April. Tom: It’s very possible. And then we’re hoping that you will come back a few weeks later to run one of your Free to Succeed seminars in the UK. everyone is invited. I’ve lost track of time. Tom: Yeah. And we’re thrilled that you’re going to be coming to London. Beryl: There’s so much more and we just – such richness.
Tom: I think this is the natural state of being is to have our thoughts and feelings coming from our inner knowing and being able to distinguish those from our thoughts that are generated out of our emotionally-driven thinking. 24 http://www. We call that first time like being in the ocean. can be learned from the book. We’ll put links to those. Free to Succeed. and you have a couple of other books too. These tend to be thoughts that are in your best interest. can I just sum up what I’ve learned from you today and check that this is what you’re saying? That if you have an agile problem that you’ve always had and perhaps like for myself. they’re just labels and we must not think that that’s the end. I thought it was my personality.Tom: Thank you for the invitation.tv . to actually become no longer confused in their thinking. And that we can move forward to be as we believe in Wired for Success. They can start an intuitive thought or start an emotionally-driven thought that it’s like most people don’t even know the distinction. And this is actually our whole process of human software engineering is helping people to so thoroughly clean up their inner emotional landscape that they do become – and this is why we call the seminar. in your highest and best interest and are really the true expression of your essential nature.wiredforsuccess. it kind of feels like that. I have to say. very simple techniques can even be learned from the book. I’m excited about it and I’m looking forward to being at the event. Tom: Yeah. It gets a lot quieter inside and most of the thoughts that you have start to be the thoughts that are coming from the vast silent canvass that you just experienced. Beryl: So. to access that wiring so that you can live the life of success and fulfillment that we’re wired to be. Maybe your thoughts are coming from there. So if you’re having that kind of problem and even if it’s being diagnosed as borderline or personality disorder or narcissism or any of these labels or ADHD. But you clean out your inner emotional landscape. I thought it was who I was. let me just throw in this again. Beryl: To have this kind of constant anxiety and feeling of overwhelm and struggling to move forwards. That your technique.
So. Tell us what you think. we will. Beryl: The update is I can now feel it’s this lovely light tingly feeling all around my abdomen into my chest space. I’ve been blessed to be with you today. There is – I’ll save it all for the next interview otherwise we’ll be here for another hour. If you’re watching this on any kind of social media. please type them in there and Tom will come back and answer them. I’m sure.facebook. thank you everyone for tuning in to today’s episode of Wired for Success.And when you live your life based on those thoughts. it’s just such a natural way to be and to work that you forget how astonishing it is for other people.wiredforsuccess. then please feel free to share it with all of your friends. Beryl: It’s been wonderful. So thank you. Tom. Please subscribe. So … Melanie: And it was great you bringing your stuff up because the thing is as I mentioned before. when you’ve been immersed in this work. Melanie. If you’re watching this on YouTube. We’re Wired for Success TV at Facebook and on Twitter.com/WiredForSuccesstv https://twitter. If you are listening by podcast on iTunes. then please come and write your reviews. https://www. you have a tendency to make really good decisions and just completely stop being the victim of your emotions. Very nice. It feels like a real lightness.tv . Beryl: Yes. is there anything else that you want to bring up here? Melanie: No. We just like to mention before we wrap that if you’re watching this episode on our site and I’m sure you’ll have comments and questions. please subscribe. OK.com/WiredSuccessTV 25 http://www. There’s a button up here.
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