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SELVA KUMAR 146 posts since Nov 17, 2008 QM - SAMPLE DRAWING PROCEDURE Apr 25, 2009 3:37 PM
Is Sample drawing procedure a document (t.code- CV01N) with details of how to collect a sample from a lot supplied or produced. How to maintain a sample drawing procedure for a material. Can we use CV01N alone with a descriptive document how to collect sample for a particular material and give object link to the material master instead of using a sample drawing procedure.
Kindly tell me in details.
RAVI MISRA 201 posts since Apr 3, 2009 Re: QM - SAMPLE DRAWING PROCEDURE Apr 26, 2009 11:14 AM
Hi Selva, Please find some more details on Sample Drawing Procedure-SDP (T Code : QPV2)
It is important to note that in Discrete Process, we only require to define Sampling procedure (T Code : QDV2) say for example 50 % of the Inspection Lot. We do not define how these Sample are to be selected. It is on random basis as we are dealing with physical units and is not mandatory by Law.
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number or quantity) Sample Drawing Items --> No. we need to assign Sampling Procedure (with radio button for Sample Management ) Generated by Jive on 2013-02-25+01:00 2 .SAMPLE DRAWING PROCEDURE In Process Industry (unlike in Discrete Process). The Structure of SDP is as deatiled below : Header --> If Confirmation required for Physical Sample drawing.No. At the characteristic Level in IP.of Primary Sample.No. Only Pooled sample is supposed to be inspected to avoid chances of Inspection lot being hetrogenous. and compliance Laws are mandatory.of Pooled Sample. It is important here as mostly these industries are Pharma.Food etc.QM . we need to define here Pooled Sample ( to be obtained from mixing Primary Sample) and Reserve Sample (from the Pooled Sample to be stored for future reference).of Reserve Sample wrt Sample Drawing Items Sample drawing Procedure is assigned to Inspection Plan Header. we need to define Sample Drawing Procedure which defines how do we intend to take Samples from the Inspection Lot. of Primary Sample (directly taken from the Inspection Lot). We define here no. --> what is the Inspection Lot unit (container.
if needed.SAMPLE DRAWING PROCEDURE - You may read more from [SAMPLE MANAGEMENT|http://help. No it can not be replaced with CV01N which looks like DMS transaction. When ever we talk of SDP. Please let me know if more explanation is required. it means that we are dealing with a Process Industry. 2009 Re: QM . 2009 5:12 PM Hi Selva.code. Is Sample drawing procedure a document (t. RAVI MISRA 201 posts since Apr 3. RKM.SAMPLE DRAWING PROCEDURE Apr 26. Generated by Jive on 2013-02-25+01:00 3 . Can we use CV01N alone with a descriptive document how to collect sample for a particular material and give object link to the material master instead of using a sample drawing procedure. It is a mandatory Master for defining Samples from Inspection Lot.com/saphelp_45b/ helpdata/en/2d/352141448c11d189420000e829fbbd/frameset.sap.CV01N) with details of how to collect a sample from a lot supplied or produced No.htm] We can explore this further with specfic example. These 2 are two differet things.QM . Thanks.
are received can this 2 batches be entered for example like 2213. 2008 Re: QM . In the second scenario. of physical samples or based on the MIGO only. so as to give 2 inspection lots. Or since the pooled same is 1 no.s. since 2 supplier batch no.2214 (two batches) in the MIGO(which appears in the result recording screen) to create a single inspection lot. if 2 primary samples are created will the system create 2 inspection lots based on the 2 physical samples and results be recorded for these 2 insp lots separately.QM .If so how to include this in QDV1. Shall we discuss in some more detail of using SDP. Kindly explain. In this case if we take samples from 2 barrels (so 2 primary samples). A liquid material comes in 10 barrels of two ( supplier) batch no. Please tell Which of the above is the right one.SAMPLE DRAWING PROCEDURE Apr 26.only 1 inspn lot be created based on the no. Consider a scenario where: 1.Mix the two to get a single composite sample( so 1 pooled sample) which may be reserved for future inspn. if possilble with a more suitable scenario if I am wrong. of physical samples. 2. Now we create SDP and shall this SDP include in the sampling procedure (QDV1). SELVA KUMAR 146 posts since Nov 17. 2009 8:04 PM Dear RKM Thanks a lot for the very useful inputs. of lots created depends on the no.SAMPLE DRAWING PROCEDURE Thanks. Now in MIGO. or if this SDP is to be directly included in the MIC portion of QP01 instead of sampling procedure. RKM. I want to know if the no. Thanks Generated by Jive on 2013-02-25+01:00 4 . or 2213 & 2214 have to entered separately in MIGO with same invoice no.
The movement we assign SDP to the Inspection Plan Header.Mix the two to get a single composite sample( so 1 pooled sample) which may be reserved for future inspn. we are okay with 2 Primary samples. or if this SDP is to be directly included in the MIC portion of QP01 instead of sampling procedure.In the IP characteristics we may assign Sampling Procedure as usual process.SAMPLE DRAWING PROCEDURE Selva RAVI MISRA 201 posts since Apr 3. In SDP we define 2 Primary Samples and 1 pooled sample to be taken from the Inspection Lot.That is which characteristic needs to be measured with what specification and which Sampling Procedure for the Pooled Sample. It nees to be assigned to inspection Plan Header. In this case if we take samples from 2 barrels (so 2 primary samples). Primary & Pooled samples along with the numbers are created in the back ground. Please note that only pooled sample are relevant for distribution to Labs for Inspection. Generated by Jive on 2013-02-25+01:00 5 . In the Inspection Characteristics we need to assign the Sampling procedure (with Inspection point with Sample Management selected ) for the characteristics. We need to create SDP with pre-decided no. Now we create SDP and shall this SDP include in the sampling procedure (QDV1). 2009 Re: QM . of Primary Sample and Pooled Sample first. A liquid material comes in 10 barrels of two ( supplier) batch no.SAMPLE DRAWING PROCEDURE Apr 27. 2009 10:39 AM Hi Selva. Please find the reply: 1.QM .If so how to include this in QDV1.s.These 2 are mixed and 1 pooled sample is obtained. Please tell Which of the above is the right one. In the above example if the Inspection Lot contains 2 suppliers.
SELVA KUMAR 146 posts since Nov 17. RAVI. PO Item.And Inspection Lot is creted on the options you select while going GR ( one for each Material.QM .SAMPLE DRAWING PROCEDURE Apr 27. regards Selva Generated by Jive on 2013-02-25+01:00 6 . I want to know if the no. 2008 Re: QM . of physical samples or based on the MIGO only.SAMPLE DRAWING PROCEDURE 2. Physical Samples are created based on the Inspection Lot and not vice versa. 2009 8:29 PM Dear Ravi Thanks a lot for the details.In the second scenario. of lots created depends on the no. if 2 primary samples are created will the system create 2 inspection lots based on the 2 physical samples and results be recorded for these 2 insp lots separately. so on and so far) Thanks.