August 30, 2008

Today’s date is August 30th, 2008, the time now is 1308 hours. My name is Detective Terry Jones, my Code Number is 6354. I’m with the Louisville Metro Police Department. This interview pertains to File #08-197, it is a death investigation involving victim Max Gilpin. And, this interview is being conducted at 8014 Bramble Lane. Uh, this interview is being conducted on the front porch, outside his residence. And, present with me is Danny Herald, he’s with the uh, security of Jefferson County Board of Education. And, uh, again this interview is of a Mr. Charles uh, (Fehribach)…, spelling F-E-H-I-R…, (R, I)…, I’m sorry R-I-B-A-C-H.

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Sir can you uh, identify yourself? Uh, my name is Charles Fehribach, as he said. Uh, your date of birth please? My date of birth is Address? My address is 8014 Bramble Lane. And, phone number? My phone number is Are you aware this interview is being taped? Yes, sir I am.

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Jones

Okay. And, at this time I will ask you to refer back to uh, August 20th, 2008. At which time you were attending a soccer match between PRP and Waggener High School? Yes. At the uh, PRP High School, right? Yes, sir. Okay. If you would start in, start from the beginning the time you arrived? Okay. Uhm, me and my girlfriend had gotten there about 4:30. Uh, my girlfriend plays for PRP soccer? Uh, when I got there she showed me where the bleachers were, I sat down. And, there was a football practice that was going on, right to my r…, basically right in front of me? Uhm, my main focus was pretty much on the soccer game there for a little bit. And, my love for football is, but attracted me over to the football practice. The players were running uh, plays and drills probably around about uhm. I believe I told Detective Jones here, around probably 6:30, quarter to 7. Is when they got their first water break? Okay. 4:30? 4:30. And, when you got there what time, what did you observe once you got there? Uh? But, the time you arrived was what

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Involving the football players? I just observed that they were running their drills, and they were taking and they were running mainly uh, plays. Okay. So, they were having some contact drills, correct? Yes, sir. And, they were wearing full equipment? They were wearing full equipment helmet, and shoulder pads and everything. Okay. And, uh, upon seeing this uh, they continued practicing. And, did they eventually take a break? Yes, they did, probably about an hour after my arrival. And, what time would you estimate that break to be? Uh, see I arrived at 4:30, probably around quarter after 5 till 5:30. Okay. And, then did they break, take a break as a team, or as individuals? As teams. Okay. And, which time they were allowed to get water? Yes, sir.

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And. Probably about a 10 minute break. Okay. And, you described the water area as, as where as what? Uh, the water area they had they uh, water hose that’s hooked to a uh, like a big pipe like deal? And, it’s got uhm, several branches off of it, that’s got little holes in it. Probably able to uhm, give 8, 8 to 10 players drinks? Okay. Uhm, they were over there for about 10 minutes. And, then they went back over and started their practice again. So, when they re…, restarted their training after the uh, restarted their practice after the water break? Uhm, which was 10 minutes, as you stated. Yes. Did they continue to wear their full gear? Yes, sir. Helmets included, correct? Helmets included, helmets practice p…, I mean pads everything. Okay. And, did they continue contact drills, or running drills?

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They had started, backed up with contact drills? And, then a little while after that they had gone to uh, different little running drills? Uh, such as just basically throwing the football back, and running it back? You know, 10, 15 yards? Okay. Uh, just little things like that, nothing that would really wear you out immediately. Okay. So, leading up to the uh, running drills uhm, they ran, they ran sprints as a team? Yes, yes sir. Okay. And, they ran length wise, or width wise of the field? They ran width wise. Okay. And, uh, how long did they do these running drills? They were probably running uh, altogether, probably about an hour, hour or so. From what time till what time? Shhh… Okay, I’ma I’ll help you along here, as far you told me that the water break was at 7, fift…, 5:15 till 5:30, 10 minute break at that point? Yep. Lead…, leading to a time of approximately

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5:40. So, they ran they did continuous drills after that 5:40? Fehribach Jones Fehribach Yes, sir. Till what time? Uh, the contended…, they continued their contact drills and their little running drills. Like I said just running the ball back 10 to fif…, 15 yards. Until its 5:30, probably about 6:30, 6:45. Okay. And, at which time they concluded the physical drills and went to running drills, correct? Yes, sir. As a team? Yes, sir. And, they you stated that uh ran sprints width wise of the field, not length wise? Width wise. Meaning from side to side? Yes, they ran from side line to side line. Okay. And, this consis…, lasted for how long? Half hour, 45 minutes at least. Okay. And, did they get a break? No.

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At anytime? No. Did anyone get sick? Yes, 2 people. Who got sick first? There was a uh, I believe he was a senior; it was a young black male, about 6 foot tall? Uh, very well fit, he had uh, pretty much passed out and they had brought him over to the bleachers about where I was at? And, they had him pretty much laying back; they were putting ice to him? They took and were cooling him down, they carried him over to the uh, water. Just by throwing his arms around their shoulders, and just help him along? Um-hum. And, he got over there and they had him over there probably 15 minutes or so. Just keeping water on him going, cooling him down. Okay. And, then after that I don’t know where he went after that. Okay. So, what happens uh, after he is attended to, what happens next? Uh, probably about 5, 10 minutes after they’d come back from him? There was another kid that had passed out, and he was uh. Little bit of

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a heavier set guy (inaudible)… Jones Fehribach White male? Yes, white male, probably about my height, about 5, 8, 5, and 10, maybe a little taller? Uhm, and when he had passed out he was completely on the ground on his knees? His head was completely drooped down? Uh they weren’t really doing anything to get him up to put their, put his hand on top of his head to get some air under his lung to cool him down? He was probably out there about 10 to 15 minutes. And, then they brought their little gator that they have. And, gator is, is what, what, what? A ga…, a gator is a uh, it’s like a little tractor, it’s got a, a flat bed in it that will dump? And, they brought that over and they helped him into the back of that. And, they had him laying down in it? They drove him over to the water, in the gator? And, they didn’t get him out, they just sit there and watered him from that. Pour him down and had him sittin’ up a little bit. And, they were trying to cool him down, and then probably 15 minutes, 20 minutes after they had get. Been gettin’ him water, when I was talking to a guy that I met there? They brought the ambulance in and they brought the stretcher out. Put him on a stretcher and carried him away in the ambulance. Did you uh, observe who this individual was, did you recognize him? Uh, no I did not recognize him.

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And. I didn’t, I didn’t know who he was personally. And, in your opinion, what you observed was he unconscious? M…, my from what I observed, yes. Okay. And, I may have not asked you this. He, was he fully dressed or did he have shoulder pads on or off? He, no he was fully dressed, only thing he didn’t have on was his helmet. Okay. Helmet was not on. And, did he have number on the, on the particular jersey that he was wearing? Was there a number on it? I, I do not recall. Okay. But, your personal opinion he had shoulder pads. Yeah, he, he, he had. (Inaudible)… He had all the pads on. Okay. In your distance you said you were far, you distance from him was what (inaudible)… Probably 20, 30 yards. 20 or 30 yards, okay. So, you can physically see him, okay. Uh, did anyone else get ill?

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No. And, you stated. After he had passed out and after they were done running drills? When the rest of the teammates had gone over for a team meeting? There’s probably, there were several teammates, I’m uh, guessing there was probably 10 to 12 of them that went over to the water to get some water? The coach started yellin’ at ‘em, telling them I did not tell you to take a water break. This practice is not over; you get your rear ends over here now. And, just kept yellin’ at ‘em, the players ignored him. They got ‘em some water and they you know, he still continued to yell at ‘em. And, they finally walked over to, over there. He went off on ‘em, told said how do you expect us to win a game like this? He said if you don’t like the game, you don’t like the way I coach it don’t come back. And, in my opinion it was very, very rude the way that he was conducting his football team. Did you hear any uh, comments among the players regarding uh, the coaches uh, uh, commands? Not that I can recall right off. Danny did you have anything? No. I thought that it was very rude the way that he treated his players. May uh, go ahead.

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When, when they took, they took the white male player over to the water? Yes, sir. Did you see him be responsive at anytime? No. Or, move or? No, there was no, there’s none, no response that I seen. And, you said, how long before ambulance got there? Probably about 15, 20 minutes after he was over at, at the water. After he was at the water? Yeah. Okay, okay. Now, you mentioned uh, the coach being hard on the, on the uh, players? He was being extremely hard. (Inaudible)… Harder than I would. Can you particularly describe what do mean by being hard on the kids? The way he was yelling and treating them, and telling them that. He did not tell them they

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could get water, as hot as it was? And, telling them that the way they’re playing, the way they’re practicing? Or, being a bunch of whiny babies and that they’ll never win like that? And, that if he don’t, if they don’t like it, that they don’t have to come back. And, it was extremely upsetting to hear the way that he was treating the players. I mean, it made me sick, I mean I’ve never. Out of all my years of ever playing for anybody? I’ve never seen a coach in any kind of sport, treat their players like that. Jones Fehribach Jones Fehribach Jones Fehribach Jones Fehribach Jones Fehribach Jones Okay. On that note, may I ask you did you play football for PRP? No, I, I graduated from Indiana. I played for Clarksville, Indiana. Okay. The varsity team? Uh, no I was, you know I was a young kid. Okay. I was third grade. But, you, you know what football is about, and you know. Yeah, my coach never treated us. You know what practice is? Yeah. You know what wind sprints are? So, you know the difference, right?

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Yeah. Okay, okay. Is there anything else I didn’t ask you, anything else we, we should cover, anything else important? Not that I can think of, sir. And, this pretty much covers the extent of what you had observed on that particular day? Yes, sir. Okay. And, if I have anything else I got your number, I’ll give you a call or something one day. Okay. We will go off record; this tape will be made part of the file. Again, uh, you were aware this interview was being taped, correct? Yes, sir. Okay. And, the time now is 1320 hours. we will conclude.

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Fehribach Jones END OF STATEMENT File #08197rjones-dl

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