September 9, 2008

This is Detective Arnold, Louisville Metro Police. This is a continuation into investigation, Case #08197. The time is now 11:19 am. The date is September 9, 2008. This, uh, is Detective Arnold, and currently with me is Jacob.

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Jacob, if you would, uh, give me your full name and spell your last name for me. Jacob J. Roberson. What's the middle initial? Uh, J. J.? Okay. And spell Roberson. R-O-B… …e-r-s-o-n. Okay. Great. And what's your date of birth, Jacob? Okay. And your home address? x Spell that for me.

Page 2 of 10 Statement: Jacob J. Roberson / Case #08197(J) Date: September 9, 2008

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x x x x x x Okay. This statement and this interview is being tape-recorded. Does that meet with your approval? Yes sir. Okay. I'm taking this statement in reference to the events that occurred on August 20, 2008 the events that occurred during a PRP football practice. . If you could, Jacob, and take your time doin' this, but describe for me the events that occurred on the 20th of August from the beginning of practice 'til the end of practice. Uh, it was… We started off with stretchin' and our other workout. We had about a normal practice for about I would say 45 minutes to an hour. Okay. And then we started slackin' off, so he made us run. Now when you say slackin' off, is that the whole team, or just one group, or what?

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Page 3 of 10 Statement: Jacob J. Roberson / Case #08197(J) Date: September 9, 2008

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The whole team. Just walkin' and talkin' and… Okay. Is that… Do you, do you agree with that? Uh, yes sir. Okay. that? Okay. And so what happened after

He made us run. He, meaning who? Coach Stinson. Okay. I mean, we had, we had three water breaks before he made us run, and then we had a water break right after he made us run. So that's four for the day. Okay. Well, we'll get to that in a minute. But, uh, so he made you run. What did he say before you guys had to run? He told us if… He said if you wanta keep, uh, slackin' off and stuff, you don't wanta act as a team, then we can just run until we start actin' like a team. Okay. And it ended up getting' people motivated to do the right things, or… Yes sir. Okay. Uh, when you guys take water breaks in a normal practice, how, how are they given?

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Page 4 of 10 Statement: Jacob J. Roberson / Case #08197(J) Date: September 9, 2008

Each individually, to a individual group, or the whole team, or what? Roberson Uh, individual groups. We usually go like linemen, then defensive backs and offense, offensive backs. Okay. On that day, how many water breaks did you take? Four. Four. After the last water break you took, that you remember taking, what, what did practice consist of after that? Uh, it was basically over. He sat down talked to us. Told us again why he made us run. And told us if we weren't, didn't wanta act like a team, and, then we could just run until we started actin' like a team. Okay. And I think we've already answered this, but, uh, essentially, why, why was the team running sprints? Is it 'cause y'all were slacking off? Yes sir. Okay. And that was as a team? Yes sir. Uh, what kind of group do you run sprints in? Linemen. Linemen? Okay. And how many sprints did your group run?

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Page 5 of 10 Statement: Jacob J. Roberson / Case #08197(J) Date: September 9, 2008

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Uh, between, uh, about five or six. Now, what does a sprint consist of? Well, we run gassers. We run four back and forth, 50 yards. Okay. So you run up back, up back, sideline to sideline? Yes sir. Okay. And since you ran five or six total that day? Yes sir. Oh, no, no, no. Not that day total. We ran 12 that day. Okay. Now, that leads into the other question. How many did you run before you took off some gear? Uh, I would have to say, seven. Okay. Then how many more after you took off some gear? Uh, five. Okay. Now, when you took off gear, what did you take off? Your helmet and what else? Or just your helmet? Our shoulder pads. Helmet and shoulder pads? Yes sir.

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Page 6 of 10 Statement: Jacob J. Roberson / Case #08197(J) Date: September 9, 2008

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How long do you think it was total that you guys ran sprints? Can you give me an estimate? Probably 35 minutes. 35 minutes? Is that longer than usual? Less than usual? Or… About 15 minutes longer than usual. That's 'cause he was mad 'cause you guys were slackin' off? Yes sir. Did any of your teammates ask for water, uh, during, during the time you guys were runnin' these gasures? No. Nobody did? No sir. Okay. So no one… Was anybody denied a water break that you know of? Uh, no sir. Alright. Uh, who get, who, did you get ill during any of this stuff? Throw up or get sic? Cramp up or anything? No sir. Did anybody, any of your teammates become

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Page 7 of 10 Statement: Jacob J. Roberson / Case #08197(J) Date: September 9, 2008

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Page 8 of 10 Statement: Jacob J. Roberson / Case #08197(J) Date: September 9, 2008

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…that's been injured enough to take care of? No sir. What normally happens when somebody gets injured? Uh, the coach let's 'em sit down, and… I mean, if it's like a body part, he'll, has 'em put ice on it. Okay. And is that pretty standard? Yes sir. Okay. Has anybody influenced you, uh, in any way to withhold information or change any of the facts that occurred during that practice? No sir. Nobody else talked to you about anything? No sir. Everything you're telling me is truthful? Yes sir. Uh, when Max got sick, do you know what happened to him? Did he fall down? Did he just start throwin' up? Do you recall, or do you know? He just collapsed. Just collapsed? Yes sir.

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Okay. What about Antonio? Same thing? Or Calloway? Yes sir. He collapsed, too. Okay. Did you see anybody take him away to the hospital or anything? Uh, they carried Max off the field, and Calloway. Okay. And, uh, Calloway did eventually get up under his own power. Did he? Okay. Good. And then, uh, an ambulance did come and get Max. An ambulance did come and get Max? Okay. Yes sir. What about when you guys got done, uh, and Coach Stinson, uh, was he with Max and Calloway, or was he with you guys, the rest of the team? He was with the rest of the team. Okay. And what happened at that point? What did you guys do? Where did y'all go? WE, uh, we, when… Yeah. WE went and took a knee. That's whenever he talked to us. And then we cleaned out the rest of the field,

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Page 10 of 10 Statement: Jacob J. Roberson / Case #08197(J) Date: September 9, 2008

and we went, uh, to the locker room. Arnold Now, you said you went and got a knee. Is that when they were, they were treating or taking care of Max and calloway? Yes sir. Did anybody at that point wanta go get a drink, or were they denied a chance to get a drink? Uh, we had a drink right after we ran, uh, finished runnin' our sprints. Everybody did? Yes sir. Everybody was allowed to? Yes sir. Okay. Anything else you can think of, uh, Jacob, that's important or that you wanta add? No sir. Okay. Well then now, the time is now 11:28, and that will conclude this interview.

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