More than 80 % less pollution
for a local city council’s vehicle
Water doping system installed on a C15
May 31, 2007
quanthomme.The not for profit organisation « La Pierre Angulaire » for its green commitment http://lapierreangulaire. for his commitment on the Water Doping system and his website www.The municipality (city council) of Vitry sur Orne thanks:
.fr / 0671225429 .fr for their info that they made available to the public.Jean Paul and Rocco from the city technical department.econologie.com .the webmasters of the website www.free. for their work and Investment for the device manufactured .
.Christophe Martz for his final engineer studying project.
.Details of assembly .analysis of the diagram
.Photos of the realisation .Summary
Installation on the C15.Pollution . city’s vehicle
.assembly 100% Pantone .diagram and genaral principles .Examples of realisations
The adaptation on a car
.Some dates of the adventure in France .water doping
From experiments to experiments : The adventure of water doping
tests have been made by a certified auto workshop. Mr. boats. This technology is still meeting scepticals. This technology of water doping. (it’s not a: « water motor» because the water steam is transformed before entering the engine. lorries. the city of Vitry-sur-Orne multiplies actions to preserve the environment. Clerget discovered it. Questions that still unanswered but to which we could answer if a scientific and industrial interest was there. Mr. Mayor of the town. has then been installed on a service vehicle. Engaged in diagnosis to equip the city buildings with solar water heaters. that is well known on Itnternet and in the green underworld. As soon as 1901. that allows a better combustion. Far to be satisfied with it. the municipality has also just ordered 200 rain water collectors of 500 litres each for the inahbitants. numerous installations have been made by individuals or organisations: on lawnmower. After many researches to buy as soon as possible electric utility vehicles. a C15 model 1993. it was used in 1942 by army air force. by the not for profit organisation (association law of 1901 : « La Pierre Angulaire » . that the city will subsidize. As for today. Results talk by themselves : fumes’ opaqueness at exhaust exit has been reduced by 82% ! (it’s the only test available for diesel engines) The system still needing tunning ( combustion chambers cleaning themselves after a while) it will be interesting to make a new test when the engine will be cleaned. The city will also show the good example. cars. then in Formula 1 during the 80’s and still now in some competitions in Car Rally. these experimental assemblies could be validated and their perfomances in pollution cleaning and fuel consumption decrease could be improved! A word to the wise …
. organisation promoting green building and energy saving. a French Engineer. found a solution: the « water doping » technology. Less than 100 kilometers (65 miles) after installing the water doping. Thus. because the reactions produced inside the reactor are not completely scientifically understood. All the sectors are studied deeply to save any form of energy and natural resource. is though far to be new. Luc Corradi. In concrete terms the water steam is transformed and added to the fuel to allow for an increase in the engine performances and a decrease in pollution.In brief
The reality of Global Warming is no more to be proved. farming vehicles. electric generators.) This pollution cleaning process. Because with test benches equipped with adapted tools. and even on an helicopter. to act on the pollution tied to the vehicles trips is one of its major priorities. researches still yet ongoing (as if the emergency of global warming concerning the planet is not the same for the car manufacturers). even if many theories are expressed. keen to contribute to the decrease of exhaust gases wastes. inspired by Paul Pantone’s system. Indeed the users of this systems often lack of technical and financial means to verify their hypotheses. a decrease in fuel consumption and decrease in pollution. tractors.
systm G+ on a service vehicle: a C15 from year 1993. president of the organisation has instructed and guided 2 technical agents for the achievement of this assembly and soon on other service vehicles.Assembly on the C15. it has called on the organisation « La Pierre Angulaire ». city’s vehicle
Within the framework of its environmental politic. During one week. specialised in the promotion of green construction and energy saving. the city council of Vitry sur Orne installed a water doping system.
. Alexandre Grégoire. In order to do this.
To control the efficiency of the device installed. the second with the device fonctionning. This measure gives us an idea of the particles rejected in the air after the combustion of the fuel in the engine. this test was made at: AUTOSUR Rombas Chemin Ramonville 57120 ROMBAS 03 87 58 25 69 The first test has been made before installing the system on the vehicle.73 %.
We can remark that with the values supplied by the measuring apparatus.
. we obtain the following results of decrease in pollution: 56.Results Pollution
The pollution test available for diesel engines consist in measuring the opaqueness of the fumes at the exhaust exit.95 % for the cycle 2
That’s an average of 55.52 % for the cycle 1 54.
0.5 m-1.815 %. the apparatus used (model used in all testing centers) doesn’t give values under the minimal value of 0. we calculate an average on the 2 cycles of measurement and we obtain: k = 0.93 % for the cycle 1 82. during the test an instant value of k can be read on the screen of the apparatus.1920 m-1 for the cycle 2
Thanks to this values. we can calculate the effective decrease in pollution of our system : 82. On the contrary. and we have been able to deduct the following results:
Temps en s
After exploitation of the data.70 % for the cycle 2
That’s an average of 82.3
0. So we made the pollution control while filming this value during all the time of the test.19625 m-1 for the cycle 1 k = 0.6
That’s a decrease in diesel consumption of 36 %.the steam generator is made from copper tubes of diameters 16/18mm and 20/22mm with a length of 14 cm. Indeed. the average consumption established of the vehicle was 8. These tests have been done in a short time after the installation (less than a hundred kilometers (65 miles) while the optimum breaking in should be at least 1. This has been confirmed during the disassembly of the air admission pipe that slowly starts to recover its original aluminum color. Dozens of examples are available on the following pages: http://quanthomme.com/forum/expêrimentations-de-moteurs-pantone-vf42.htm with 8 documented results http://econologie. Since the installation of the water doping system.6 . The new average consumption of diesel fuel established is 5.This result is very satisfying and prove one more time the efficiency of the water doping system.the reactor is composed of a rod in stainless steel of length 22 cm and 12 mm diameter inserted in a stainless steel tube of diameter 14/17.fr/qhsuite/tr37tr38.25 litres/100Km. The average consumption of water established is 0.free.
Detail of the assembly
. 919 Km have been covered.000km (650 miles).html
Results in consumption will be made available soon depending on the data collected during the following weeks.The tank with costant level is an of-the-shelf boiler drain-cock.fr/qhsuite/Real2006SystPantone. the engine cleans itself slowly from the carbon deposits and the engine still producing dusts caused by the cleaning of the combustion chambers and not because of the combustion itself.The water tank placed in the back of the vehicle.the fresh air inlet is made from a stainless steel tube of diameter 14/17.free.8 litres/100 Km.
Before installing the sytem. . . It will be interesting to make a new test when the system will be totally smooth and the engine cleaned. whereas before the disassembly it was covered with soot.6 .htm http://quanthomme.28 litres for 100 Km. after installation of the system.
Photos of the realisation
Welding of the reactor
Different pieces of the system
Full view of the system
Reactor from the G+ system
Making of the steam generator
Detail of the piece made
june 1995 : the US Patent for the MIT (Massachusetts Institute of Technology) « Plasmatron » august 1998 : US Patent obtained by Paul Pantone for his endothermic reactor
. 2000 : after the first succesful tests. what gave birth to a lot of research in the water doping. French scientist. Thus since 5 years a lot of individuals have been interested in particular with Paul Pantone’s technology.october 21.quanthomme.quanthomme. 2000 : publication of webpages concerning the Pantone system on www. Water doping that made its proves on a large scale recently.
Some dates during the adventure
(from website http://www. the video results put online on Jean-Louis Naudin’s website.november 11. the first pollution tests where made. 1999 : Pantone offered his basic "recipe" to the public for everybody to build his own reactor and verify the reality of the system .From experiments to experiments : the adventure of water doping
Some active eccologistshave conducteddifferent experiments trying to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and other polluting fumes. the water steam produced is sent in a reactor where it’s transformed before being injected in the engine. . Indeed. however no interest for their development esxists until today.jlnlabs.september 20.september 27.
It’s very important to take in consideration that the name « water engine » is wrong on a scientific basis. in terms of decrease in fuel consumption and pollution. We can find this system under the name of G System or Water Doping.fr
. the first photos.org . found this sytem interesting and made a diagram of the reactor with his bubbler and asked to Paul Pantone if he understood well his process. Then he published a diagram on his website http://www. and at the same time trying to reduce the fuel consumption. 1999 : Jean-Louis Naudin. French scientist. Some of them have brought proves of results.
You can find all these set-ups on www.From that moment esperiments have followed one another. october 11. being on lawnmower.quanthomme. Jean-Louis Naudin made his own modification on a lawnmower and many other assemblies followed … may 5. 2001 : publication of the assembly made on spring 2001 : the famous tractor n° 22. Since then it’s still growing. tractors.fr july 16. it’s an agricultor from the Centre France area. cars.
Inspired: because in the reactor of the tractor n° 22.quanthomme.com/forums/experimentations-de-moteurs-pantone-vf42. and even an helicopter. present to the jury his testing bench of a Pantone system.
Today. 2003 : First witnessing of an assembly on a car on the website www. there only "micro drops" of water or steam water go in. he obtained his engineer degree. Idea inspired by the original Patone system. and even very good results. Christophe Martz. 2004 : opening of a Pantone forum on www. 2004 : the first « spad ».html
. ready to install kit from the not for profit organisation APTE is installed on a lorry.econologie. numerous assemblies have been made. agriculture machines.Strasbourg. All these set-ups have been made by individuals and each one has its own results often positive.fr and on the forums http://www. the engine not being modified : it’s another way to use the Pantone reactor while obtaining good results. generators.pur Pantone system – on his lawnmower. lorries. 2005 : syt em improvement patent filled by Christophe Martz associated with Olivier Sallelles
The adventure of the Pantone systems or water doping is launched concretely at end of 2000. This testing assembly. 2001 : an engineer stufent of the ENSAIS . who had the idea after making trials with the basic system at Christmas 2000 . february 8. what makes it easier to install.free. november 16. boats.econologie. subjected to various fields. We must be thanksfull toward all these experimenters because it’s due to their efforts that the installation of these systems with continuously improving results is possible today.com february 4.
Examples of realisation
Systems made by M. Two farmers have come down to a consumption of 10.000L down to 3. 8400 MF 3690 .000 L to 3. due to the installation of these systems.000 L per year.fr
Type of tractors JD 8520 . Since 6 years. P-ELOI@hotmail. without any technical or practical problem. 8300. thousands of litres of diesel fuel have been saved.200cv
CASE MX 150 TM 155 NH JD 8820 Lexion 440 Mega 218 7810 JD
Results 25 % fuel saving 35 % fuel saving 50% fuel saving at full load 35% average 40% fuel saving Whatever the load 25 % fuel saving 20 % fuel saving 20 % fuel saving 25 % fuel saving 15 % fuel saving
These tractors have all been used (2000 cumulated hours). Systems made by individuals Vehicles Consumption Mercedes 220D 45 % reduction 740 000 km on freeway 35 % in average Fiat 126 600 No numbers 306 Diesel 35 % reduction Chrysler 2l 32 % reduction Gazoline 205 Diesel 25 % reduction C25 gazoline 28 % reduction Pollution No starting values
91 % reduction 73 % reduction 60 % reduction 80 % reduction 54 % reduction
. farmer in the Aisne.320cv JD 8200.500 L per year for the first one and the second one from 9. Pierre Eloi. All users have been able to see a decrease and even a disparition of the black exhaust fumes.
and after around 350 failures.
The system is fixed directly on the admission pipe and t he exhaust collector and replace complet ly t he carburetor and part of t he axhaust pipe.the vaporizer. a mixture of hydrocarbons and water is vaporised to be injected in a reactor. Pantone didn’t hesitate to publish his plans on Internet. the Pantone’s system reached a simplier fonctioning diagram. named endothermic reactor.the reactor. on october 26. in the center. The carburetor assembly. he discovered the process as he describes it in his US Patent (US005794601A1). on the right in the diagram. 1999. Following the different experiences. It can be broke down in 2 elements: . To resume. It contains the fuel and water mixture.
. . With the goal to spray the idea of the GEET as large as possible. named bubbler. the Paul Pantone’s sytem served as thebase to the different experiments. when the reactor is cold. Developped to run on generators. However the installation of this system generates a lot of modifications and in particular when it’s installed on vehicles. On distingue alors deux principes différents :
. and in this case is used as tank. that consists to bring only water through the system. it doesn’t work. This vapors are transformed inside du reactor before being injected in the engine. its adaptation for vehicles creates numerous constraints. That’s from that moment that we spoke about: the water doping system or G system.Adaptation on a car
To start with.100% Pantone set-up:
Paul PANTONE started his researches in 1979. Indeed. This generates a significative decrease in The pollution level as well as a decrease in consumption that can fairly be estimated between 20 to 30%. That’s where happens the vapor transformation reaction. not represented on the plan must be conserved for the starting phase.
Clerget discovered the advantages of water injection with diesel fuel on high pressure engines.
. Christophe Martz during his final studies in Mechanical Engineering.fr. The injection has a cooling effect of the internal pieces of the engine (piston and cylinder). In fact. a French Engineer. This study made in 2001 prove the interest t hat we must s ho w fo r t his system. Major conclusions about the use of water in combustion engines moteurs are as follow:
Water injection decreases sources of knocking and the destruction of the engine by increasing the octan rate of the fuel mix. Other explanations are available on the « pages » by Michel DAVID. But these results are promising because it shows that with the same exhaust assembly. Stabilised w a t e r -diesel m i x t h a t a l l o w s a r e d u c t i o n i n Nox emissions. The reductions of polluants on the Pantone’s process are impressive : there « still have » almost no CO2 left in the exhaust gases. then in Formula1 during the 80’s and still now in some Rally Car competitions.The most complet study we can find today on this system was realised by an engineer. the Pantone process allows gains on consumption higher than 50%. Pantone
. Water injection allows an increase in the average pressure with a specific consumption decreased. carbon monoxydes or unburnt fuel and fumes. Ecole Nationale Supérieure des Arts et Industries de Strasbourg) available on his website www.econologie. what goes against the fonctioning of a standard engine whose combustion is better at higher load. The gain in consumption on the Pantone systemis very small compared to the original fonctioning. we Have noted that improvments must be done to reach the results promised by Mr. However. Also this rate tends to diminish with the load. Today we found its use in industry: the Aquazol fuel. But the set-up that Christophe Martz made is the basic one (from the patent) and is more experimental than functional. on the website www.quanthomme. we are far from the division per 2 or 3 of the consumption annonced by Pantone. as soon as 1901. option Industrial Energetics at the ENSAIS (National High School of Arts and Industries of Starsbourg. It was used as soon as 1942 by military air force.com. These works allowed already to improve the efficiency of diesel engines.the water doping
This technology is far to be new.
Water steam is produced inside a steam generator with the help of the heat from the exhaust gases that also heat up the reactor in the system.
. The set-up is based on the following diagram:
Diagram taken from http://reaction.free. The vacuum created by the engine sucks these vapors that go through the reactor where they are transformed before being injected in the engine.It’s that system that was choiced to equip t h e service vehicle (C15) from ‘Vitry sur Orne’ city council.directe1.
the losses of charge in the original Pantone system were playing an important role in the decrease of consumption.
. The reactor is composed of 2 concentric tubes and a metallic rod inserted inside the smallest of the 2 tubes. but numerous theories have been suggested. However. the modification of the exhaust line is made to limit as much as possible this charge losses. the users of these systems often lack the technical and financial means to verify their hypotheses.Analysis of the diagram
As is showing C.
All the reactions occuring inside of this reactor are not totally known on a scientific basis. The reactor We find a reactor as described in the Pantone set-up. The system presented below takes care of this important data. Then the admission gases are circulating in a ring formed space between the inner surface of the smallest tube and the metallic rod. Indeed it’s inside this reactor that the water steam is transformed in a pollution cleaning gas that allows for an increase in the engine’s performance (decrease in consumption). that’s the main piece of this system. Martz’s study. The detail of these reactions will be presented in the paragraph “functioning hypotheses”. In the internal tube the admission gases are circulating in the opposit way compared to the exhaust gases circulating in the outer tube.
The steam generator (G.
. allows to obtain rapidly a water steam at around 90/95°C and allows its production depending of the engine speed.) It allows the production of water steam necessary to supply the reactor. Thus the ring space created allows the water to change to steam by recycling the heat from the exhaust gases. fitted one inside the other. Numerous users have made the bubbler system as in the original set-up from Pantone. The G. is composed of 2 tubes of different diameter. because the more we ask power from the engine. The G.V. or also a very slow heating up of the steam temperature and an irregular control of this temperature. thus accelerating the steam production.V. The bubbler has many drawbacks like the insertion of such a system in the engine surrounding where the is usually little spare place.V. the more exhaust gases will heat the GV.
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. A better airtightness of the pistons allows a reduction in crankcase oil consumption and a better dispersion of the fuel allows for a better combustion. some hydrazine N2H4. improving the smoothness and the efficiency of the engine. Many questions still not answered. an improvment of the expansion of the hot gases generates a more homogenous pressure on the piston. With test benches equiped with adapted tools. On a chemical point of view. the water isn’t transformed in the reactor but the reaction happens in the engine. the reality being certainly a combinaison of some of these effects.Functioning hypotheses
3 possibilities are advanced : .
Here also there are various possibilities. there can be produced monatomic hydrogen H+. the third possibility would be a compromise between the two first ones. a water craking can happen.the water is chemically transformed inside the reactor and the product obtained has an action during the combustion. Depending of the transformation conditions present in the water doping set-up. On a thermodynamic and mecanichal point of view. Some air (N2 : Nitrogen and O2 : dioxygen) and water steam (H2O) are injected inside the reactor where they can be transformed in various burnable products. These transformations can be explained with the help of the water steam ionisation theories or gas cavitation through shocks in the air.
(Copyleft translation from French to English by Jules Tresor (MDG) on March 28. but we could find the answers in a short time if an interest from scientists and industrials was to come with its development. these experimental set-ups could be validated and their performances in pollution cleaning and fuel saving could be improved even further. or also some hydrogène peroxyde H2O2. the water reacting with the carbon from the fuel. allowing the production of cleaner and more efficient reacting elements during the combustion.
Scientific explanations of this water doping system have been suggested because of the experimentations and researches from individuals.