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The ATF Wants ‘Massive’ Online Database to Find Out Who Your Friends Are
By Robert Beckhusen 04.05.13 5:40 PM
The ATF is looking to speed up its caseload with an automated database for searching individuals — like these cadets during a 2010 civilian training session — and discovering the relationships between them. Photo: ATF The ATF doesn’t just want a huge database to reveal everything about you with a few keywords. It wants one that can find out who you know. And it won’t even try to friend you on Facebook first. According to a recent solicitation from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, the bureau is looking to buy a “massive online data repository system” for its Office of Strategic Intelligence and Information (OSII). The system is intended to operate for at least five years, and be able to process automated searches of individuals, and “find connection points between two or more individuals” by linking together “structured and unstructured data.”
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vehicle serial codes. “Many of these tasks are performed manually. it won’t necessarily be able to apply that to tracing gun transactions due to Congressional restrictions. But hunting through them for information that’s relevant and timely is a mind-numbing and timeconsuming job. That includes 24-hour tech support for agents pulling those coffee-fueled all-nighter investigations. and out comes your identity. The bureau is seeking to buy an existing database system and not fund the development of a completely new one.wired. as the bureau is prohibited by law from establishing a centralized electronic database for gun purchases. the ATF states it wants the database to speed-up criminal investigations. however.The ATF Wants 'Massive' Online Database to Find Out Who Your Friends Are | Danger Room | Wired. that the ATF already does most of these things. the ATF is widely perceived as a weak. “phonetic name spelling.com 4/8/13 12:52 PM Primarily. Many other specific requirements are also to be expected for a federal law enforcement agency: searching names. Input that data. If the agency finds a gun linked to a crime. which is a big part of the ATF’s job. The data will then be collected to help out during investigations and provide “relevant information and intelligence products. it could still help agents track you down a lot faster than they could before — along with finding out everything else about you.” There’s no hint the database is to be used to track gun sales. It’s also not an anti-terrorism tool and isn’t intended to “quickly respond to problems. phone numbers. The database will not “consolidate multiple databases” the ATF already has access to — like LexisNexis and Thomson Reuters. And the bureau’s intelligence analysts already use a number of databases to help piece this information together. And it has to be reliable and work all the time. financial data. Instead of requiring an analyst to manually search around for your personal information. Which sounds like a good deal. Even if it has a database that can track you down and find out who your friends are.” the solicitation states. age range. or information not strictly relevant to a case. while the computer automatically establishes connections you have with others. allowing federal investigators to more easily bust criminals during a hot case.” But putting the ATF’s problems with tracing guns aside. friends and business associates — is what criminal investigations are all about.com/dangerroom/2013/04/atf-database/?cid=6928234 Page 2 of 12 . stagnant and underfunded agency. A follow-up document from the ATF clarifies a few things. all of that work figuring out the who’s-who will still likely have to be done manually. Tracking down your identity. “nationwide utility data” and reverse phone searches. the database should “obtain exact matches from partial source data searches” such as social security numbers (or even just a fragment of one). threats. Related You Might Like Related Links by Contextly 3-D Printer Company Seizes Machine From Desktop Gunsmith http://www. “resulting in longer turnaround times on important information and intelligence research and analysis requests.” The bureau wants this new system to do all that gathering and research automatically. etc. in theory. At the same time. It could potentially give the investigators a lot more information than your sense of privacy may be comfortable with.” or a general area where your address is located. It’s necessary to note. and then traces the gun to someone who bought it from someone else. and finding connections between you and your kinfolk — your relatives.
.S.com 4/8/13 12:52 PM Aurora's Arsenal. where he covers Latin America for War Is http://www.com/dangerroom/2013/04/atf-database/?cid=6928234 Page 3 of 12 . Mounted on a Ship.Wired $356 Million Later. Holds On to Biometrics Database of 3 Million Iraqis | Danger . Apple and Google: Apperating Systems Are Taking Over Your Phones Pentagon's Humanoid Disaster-Rescue Robot Is Dressed to Impress Watch Navy's New Laser Cannon. Explained: Feds Can't Track Stockpiled Guns . the Justice Department's Wireless Network Still . Kill a Drone Robert Beckhusen is a writer based in Austin.... Texas.The ATF Wants 'Massive' Online Database to Find Out Who Your Friends Are | Danger Room | Wired. Search Show More Top Secret America’s Database of Private Spooks The Finest One Yet Move Over.wired. U.
. Tags: ATF.The ATF Wants 'Massive' Online Database to Find Out Who Your Friends Are | Danger Room | Wired. Justice Department. not a government agency.com/dangerroom/2013/04/atf-database/?cid=6928234 Page 4 of 12 . True story: Guys seek out ATF table at job fair saying "They want to bust down doors" 12 • Reply • Share › Snoop8765 Joey Valentine • 2 days ago Reply Share › Yep 9 • • Sue Miller 4 • Joey Valentine • a day ago Reply Share › Excellent Constitutional concept! • Paul Lucero Joey Valentine • 3 hours ago Don't laugh this is the same ATF Gang that burn people to death in their homes because they can. http://www. OSII. Tobacco and Firearms should be a convenience store. Surveillance Post Comment | 179 Comments | Permalink Back to top Tweet 6k742 Like 137 Reddit Digg Stumble Upon Email 179 comments Leave a message.. Evil is not a strong enough description of this team of people without morals! 2 • Reply • Share › Robin Rhyne Joey Valentine • 7 hours ago Kinda funny but very kinda true.com 4/8/13 12:52 PM Boring. Reply • Freemon Sandlewould Joey Valentine • a day ago Bunch of adrenaline junkies join ATF. intelligence. 0 Best Community Share Joey Valentine 252 • • 3 days ago Share › Alcohol. Read more by Robert Beckhusen Follow @rbeckhusen on Twitter.wired.
The "heroes" of Waco back again. Vicky Weaver's murder was a FBI sniper. 103 • Reply • Share › ss396 31 Cowboydroid • 2 days ago Reply Share › The courts ARE the feds. and let's continue to fight and kill people worldwide to protect OUR and extend our precious and very special freedumb ! 7 1 • Reply • Share › Dem Slow 31 • reallyniceguy • 2 days ago Reply Share › Don't forget those "heroes" also were responsible for murders at Ruby Ridge. • • ErnieGjr Cowboydroid • 2 days ago You beat me to it with your comment. • Robert Fowler 0 • Dem Slow • 3 hours ago Share › That was the FBI. They took the power from you illegally. 78 • Reply • Share › Maximillian Cunningham manofsan • a day ago Yeah. 10 • Reply • Share › manofsan reallyniceguy • 3 days ago Department of Pre-Crime wants to conduct surveillance on you in advance of that crime they know you're going to commit.The ATF Wants 'Massive' Online Database to Find Out Who Your Friends Are | Danger Room | Wired. while mine was more long-winded.com/dangerroom/2013/04/atf-database/?cid=6928234 Page 5 of 12 . Reply • Cowboydroid reallyniceguy • 3 days ago This sounds like an unreasonable search to me. Reply • http://www. Don't expect them to bust themselves. Yours was more succinct. My compliments. Take it back from them. No need to wait for the courts to bust the feds. This Federal agency needs to go away.com 4/8/13 12:52 PM 1 • Reply • Share › reallyniceguy 170 • • 3 days ago Share › How nice.wired. and thus a violation of the 4th Amendment.
38 • Reply • Share › Magnum Opus Scott McCain • 3 days ago The Feds have been doing this since their inception it is called Human Intelligence or HUMINT for short. Then the feds create digital dossiers which converts the HUMINT into SYSINT(SYStem INTelligence) which can zip around the globe to wherever it is needed with all the case data integrity held high for perpetual storage..com/dangerroom/2013/04/atf-database/?cid=6928234 . Reply • This comment is awaiting moderation. It wasn't a garden variety "text classifier" by any measure. but this is much more sinister. Show comment.com 4/8/13 12:52 PM Charles Hammond Jr 13 1 • reallyniceguy • 2 days ago Share › Don't forget gunwalker. They send their people into loose social circles then work their way back like candiru. Now. We can extract the data and relationships and run analysis on those relationships today. provide us the data in a nice. social networks.wired. friendly API. Of course. that data is limited to your personal data (or the data of users who have authorized your application). FB chief among them. I worked for a company back in the early 00's that had contracts with scary organizations with three letter initials. • Scott McCain • 3 days ago This has been in the works for longer than people realize.. This is the gathering of information without your knowledge. OG_Locc 39 1 Teresa Phillip • 3 days ago Reply Share › Die spammer. Do Not Feed The SPAMMERS.. Just saying. It made use of complex neural networks and graph based analysis tools.The ATF Wants 'Massive' Online Database to Find Out Who Your Friends Are | Danger Room | Wired.. • • Agnon Mema 7 1 • OG_Locc • 2 days ago Reply Share › Just flag and ignore. systems are proactively searching for HUMINT via electronic transactions and are updating themselves to stay current. Along comes social networks that make the job of programs like that so much easier. but it was really a sophisticated graph analysis program that looked at the relationships between words and letters to try to see if there was any coded information. They created a product that was touted as a text classifier.. which is tantamount to domestic spying. 11 2 • Reply • Share › Page 6 of 12 http://www. Instead of having to scour unrelated sites and try to mash together unstructured data..
what they didn't say was "we do not record calls within the US". You don't invest the expensive time intensive resources involved to individualize the populace of an entire country unless the threat is so clear. present and imminent. it was always involved gathering information on FOREIGN citizens. Besides most people think it will not happen to them since they have not done anything that bad that to warrant such scrutiny. Period. 36 • Reply • Share › Magnum Opus RESISTANCE • 2 days ago This is the result of big government at work in times where American freedoms are under assault.com 4/8/13 12:52 PM 11 2 RESISTANCE Magnum Opus • 2 days ago When I worked in HUMINT. This is an Orwellian nightmare coming to life. They can't make the simple connection that the govt. arab.The ATF Wants 'Massive' Online Database to Find Out Who Your Friends Are | Danger Room | Wired. So these will go on our records. 20 1 • Reply • Share › Thomas Varghese RESISTANCE • a day ago Are you kidding? Its been here for a while.com/dangerroom/2013/04/atf-database/?cid=6928234 Page 7 of 12 . we are all just a bunch of sleeping sheep. You haven't seen nothing yet. what's next? http://www. with the potential to dwarf 9/11 in order to justify collecting personal dossiers on innocent American citizens. most people just haven't noticed since most people are not black. hispanic. Oh well. 20 • Reply • Share › Magnum Opus MustBeSaid • 2 days ago Illegal or necessary evil? There must be a monumental calamity coming our way. They are even keeping track of comments posted to news sites. But they are telling the "truth".wired. As the folks from the NSA said "we do not monitor calls within the US". All 330+ million suspects are here at the party. 7 • Reply • Share › MustBeSaid Magnum Opus • 2 days ago Illegal is illegal. can get those records with a phone call or less. Not much of a difference to most of us. asian. not our own. Doesn't matter how long the government has been doing the illegal activity. The really sad part is most folks don't care that private corporations are tracking them everywhere. There are laws against the collecting of dossiers on innocent citizens. etc.
what's next? 5 2 • Reply • Share › Happeh Magnum Opus • 2 days ago "You don't invest the expensive time intensive resources involved to individualize the populace of an entire country unless the threat is so clear" Or unless the effort is really being done on behalf of the foreign country that controls America. that we can't make sense of our lives. or Intel for short. we have a massive police and prison system.The ATF Wants 'Massive' Online Database to Find Out Who Your Friends Are | Danger Room | Wired. internet. but contrary to most popular belief. Everything must be known about the occupied peoples so they cannot rise up and retake their country from the foreign invaders that now control it.com 4/8/13 12:52 PM present and imminent. personal contact) or by other means. is the acronym for Intelligence. National Defense Authorization Act and anything else signed off on by the Dept of Homeland Security (AKA Big Brother)." And yet we are so afraid.wired.com/dangerroom/2013/04/atf-database/?cid=6928234 Page 8 of 12 . America. M. Sirius f0rtylegz • 3 days ago Welcome to the reality :-) Next level is not to listen to those who will call you conspiracy http://www. We have millions of Americans working in "security. 3 1 • Reply • Share › Redhawke burntneal • 6 hours ago "INT". 12 • Reply • Share › burntneal Magnum Opus • 3 days ago ***INT typically refers to collection methods not types of information and certainly not storage methods. so paranoid. the Govt has had and will continue to have intel on it's population. there are a few more that I cannot think of right now. The types of collections are defined by HUM (human. We have a gigantic military. such as SIGINT (communication devices like cell phones. Is it illegal to collect dossiers on USA citizens? Not with the existence of Patriot Act. 46 1 • Reply • Share › I. • • f0rtylegz • 3 days ago This is sick. and environment. but this sounds like really interesting work. radio frequencies etc). All 330+ million suspects are here at the party. Americans are terrorized. 0 • Reply • Share › craniac 1 Magnum Opus • a day ago Reply Share › I know it's wrong. and then gathering intelligence on Americans makes perfect sense.
28 • Reply • Share › EntropyMan 2 • I. As nations become more corrupt and vicious.Benjamin Franklin 26 1 • Reply • Share › Bill Gryan kikimonster • 2 days ago Remember how they screamed about Guantanamo Bay. Reply • kikimonster • 3 days ago What's amazing to me is not the incredible expanion of govt intrusion into our life under the Obama campaign.com 4/8/13 12:52 PM Welcome to the reality :-) Next level is not to listen to those who will call you conspiracy theorist. What cowards. 42 1 • Reply • Share › DrDean kikimonster • 2 days ago I don't think it's that they are embarrassed as much as they are combination of brainwashed. They are people without principles. golf games. I wish it were just that these people are too embarrassed.. Whatever dear leader tells them is right is right. "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. deluded and corrupt enough to let the government do whatever it wants as long as it gives them "free" stuff. they have more need of masters.wired. Sirius • 5 hours ago Share › Reynolds Wrap available at all grocery stores. M. and it can change from week to week.com/dangerroom/2013/04/atf-database/?cid=6928234 . That's what's really scary about the average Obama voter." -. that could be cured. What is amazing to me is that the same trolls who screamed bloody murder about completley innocuous legislation such as the Patriot Act and insisted they were losing their rights (despite never once having been able to articulate exactly what rights those were) are no completely silent on issues like the NDAA of 2012 and other gross violations of the Constitution. 21 1 • Reply • Share › bannedforselfcensorship 15 1 • Bill Gryan • 2 days ago 4 legs good! 2 legs better! Reply • Share › Page 9 of 12 http://www. I'm guessing that it's because all those people voted for Obama so now they are too embarrassed to say anything.The ATF Wants 'Massive' Online Database to Find Out Who Your Friends Are | Danger Room | Wired. foreign wars? Now they're silent.
com 4/8/13 12:52 PM 15 1 MustBeSaid kikimonster • 2 days ago Yep. I've seen just as many who are against this now. Reply • Agnon Mema 7 • bobbknight • 2 days ago Share › I hope you meant that as sarcasm. 3rd world countries and drug cartels that only exist because of our war on drugs.. make that TOO STUPID ! Reply • Share › bobbknight 27 • • 3 days ago Share › Ruby Ridge. America's enemies are dirt poor terrorist groups. The BATFE needs more power to do more good work. Anecdotally. They do live in shit up to their ears but that is where the foot soldier recruits are living. rich terrorists are better than poor terrorists? Reply • Ronin kikimonster • 2 days ago I think that's more in your mind.The ATF Wants 'Massive' Online Database to Find Out Who Your Friends Are | Danger Room | Wired. Waco. Obama is pure garbage but he's only the latest in a line of human trash Presidents. Don't confuse being dirt poor with living in shit up to your ears. Yet somehow we need security measures that go far beyond what we had in the Cold War or even during WWII? How does that make any sense? 19 4 • Reply • Share › PeteEllis MustBeSaid • 2 days ago Not dirt poor at all. Fast and Furious.. Team O has cranked it up to "11". Reply • http://www. 9 1 • Reply • Share › Gary Bradford 1 • MustBeSaid • a day ago Share › Are you saying.. The bad guys like third world countries because they can operate more freely. you would be shocked at their financial resources. He's certainly the most bold about invasion of privacy and civil liberties. And there are degrees of it.com/dangerroom/2013/04/atf-database/?cid=6928234 Page 10 of 12 ... who were against it then. 5 • Reply • Share › Maximillian Cunningham 1 1 • kikimonster • a day ago Ahh no.The war on drugs has nothing to do with this.wired.
and the dumbasses wouldn't mind at all! Which most will not mind. "Give me data because I say I need it. Just like if you sign in here to Discus with your FB login. they could slip right on the Facebook bandwagon by creating a database that will index personal associations for various 'assessment opportunity work'. The ATF probably figured out that out of the 1 billion plus Facebook dumbasses whom a fifth of them are American.. 1 • Reply • Share › TMLutas • 2 days ago Why don't we have a massive online database of government employees to spot the nepotism and other corrupt connections? I'd be happy to fund that one first.com 4/8/13 12:52 PM bryancostanich 2 • Agnon Mema • a day ago Share › of course he did. 2 • Reply • Share › Areign Robert • a day ago Zero apps are fronts for the feds. 23 • Reply • Share › Robert Magnum Opus • 2 days ago So how many Facebook apps and games are fronts for the feds? They want you to give them access to your friends list in order to play.The ATF Wants 'Massive' Online Database to Find Out Who Your Friends Are | Danger Room | Wired. Brilliant! I see how by registering with this huge federal endpoint database you could easily be found with the internet drastically shrinking the 6 degrees of separation down to 3 degrees. for what purposes exactly? I saw this coming down the pipeline with Facebook back in 2003-2004. but nothing more. GED or better can write. 18 • Reply • Share › Page 11 of 12 http://www. 'Guilty by association'. They have national security letters (NSL) which any agent possessing a high-school education. Reply • Magnum Opus • 3 days ago Well isn't this nice? ATF wants to database who your personal friends are now. This gives a whole new meaning to the phrase. the agent isn't required to spell all the words correctly.com/dangerroom/2013/04/atf-database/?cid=6928234 . that's why he referenced specific fuckups. apps are unnecessary for them." There are no checks and balances on these.wired. Your point is well-taken but they are 5 steps ahead of you already. From there they have access to FB to monitor everything you post. Why sneak in the backdoor with their own app when they can walk in the front door of Facebook or any company designing an app holding a poorly photocopied letterhead and a hand written note.
com/dangerroom/2013/04/atf-database/?cid=6928234 Page 12 of 12 . a database of Congressmen's stock trading activity correlated to the days that financial legislation is passed? 18 • Reply • Share › TMLutas Bill Gryan • 2 days ago Why not both? It's the 21st century.citizenintelligence. National Security: Wars 84 comments • 11 days ago Collapse Previous Article So Russia Has an Upgraded Flamethrower Tank Now Next Article Sea Waves and Sunlight Power This Upgraded Naval Robot http://www..wired.S. 7 • Reply • Share › Load more comments ALSO ON WIRED: DANGER ROOM What's this? Navy Wants Lasers on Marines’ Trucks to Shoot Down Drones Biggest Threat to U.. In the US the people rule. why not give them the data tools to properly judge and exercise their power? I'm actually working on the problem: http://www.com 4/8/13 12:52 PM 18 • Reply • Share › Bill Gryan TMLutas • 2 days ago Or even easier.The ATF Wants 'Massive' Online Database to Find Out Who Your Friends Are | Danger Room | Wired.