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Black Boxes and Marble Memorials Cable T. V. Snooping

An acquaintance who is involved with telecommunications recently told me that the spooks have the ability to listen in ("two way interaction" is the way he put it) through some kind of "black box" in our television >sets, via the cable hookups we invited into our homes. He went on to say >that a friend of his working through television repair school was advised >not to question the purpose of the black box in the set he was training >on. Furthermore, he said that several former college roomates now >specializing in telecommunications of various kinds WILL NOT allow the >cable into their homes for just that reason. Obviously, we are way past >George Orwell's wildest dreams as far as the spook-tech goes, so my >question is not so much "can they?" but "do they?" Is the black box >already there, in my tv, do you suppose? Is the cable set up to carry >reverse signals, and if so, who controls the plug at the other end? I >just thought you might know something about these things.

First off, I can confirm this as a non-rumor, but as fact. In fact, this has been the case for over a dozen years. The 'cable-ready' set has had this ability since the term 'cable-ready' came to be.

I worked on a joint project. but was just something that we tossed around for the six months that we were together -. mostly in Europe. In fact. working on a small computer-like interface that went in your power-meter. the things that you plug into the power line that sends a signal to 'any other power plug in the house. It could not be sold in the US. . mom and dad. the phone company (Southwestern Bell). and so were keeping the possibility quite on purpose) They (the power companies main holding company) were. but because of it's size and the quality of the FM signal. over eleven years ago. it was limited to motion detection. This sent a signal out over the power lines that could be picked up anywhere that another power line went. showing me that they were already aware of this attitude. it was one of the 'renegades' in that effort that joined with Radio Shack and started what we now call 'nursery monitors' -. We discussed the 'security options' that were available AT THAT TIME. because if everyone knew the potential of this device. that would allow them to monitor power usage AND CHANGE POWER CONSUMPTION from a central point. (this subject had nothing to do with the joint project. which could send out a visual signal. between the power company. These options were currently in use in some companies in the US.' Well. and was marketed as a security feature in certain countries. it is also sending that signal to EVERY OTHER power plug on the ENTIRE SYSTEM. at that time. They also had a small fish-eye that replaced the middle screw in the plug. they would revolt. (this comment came from the power company man.you know. and the cable-tv company.I made sure that the conversation came up from time to time) The electric company had a small unit that would fit into a standard two-plug wall box that was basically an FM transmitter.

This was needed in order to allow certain places to be un-effected by 'brown outs' we were told -. Now for the cable company. so it is probably better now) that was frightening. The cable company person would not speak to us openly about ANYTHING that he was going to tell us. What you need to understand right off is that it is not necessary to have your television be ready to accept the cable signal. and described a level of clarity (remember. (his rather crude example had something to do with counting the zits on your butt while 'doing the nasty' on the couch) Scary point two: the speaker is also two-way. even at the time.they could reduce the amount of electricity that homes used in order to keep 'higher priority' places at full power. First is an electronic eye. and second is the 'cable-ready' unit. The person telling us about this had actually seen some images from it. most likely the thing that is being referred to as the black box. but eventually even SHOWED US HOW SOME OF IT WORKED!!! We didn't see all of what he told us. This was frightening to us. (this is one thing that we saw -or should I say heard) . First. My circa-1979 non-cable-ready unit has no problem with cable reception (when we had it). All you need is that connector that the cable wire plugs into and you screw onto the back of the unit. this is 1983-ish. Scary point one: the electronic eye is a two-way unit that is sending back a fairly high-quality picture of what is going on. which we are told is to adjust the brightness. but enough to believe what he was saying. all 'cable-ready' televisions have at least two components that are not needed for the television.

I'll let others answer the second question. Physically remove the connection to your house from outside. but said that nobody there had discussed these issues that openly.. Scary point four: the signal from these cable-ready units that is sent out from your cable-ready television goes out through the antenna (sp?) connection. Lee From: FIREWALKER Subject: Re: Re Black Boxes and Marble Memorials . Some of them can even remain powered on (with the set unplugged) from the signal power coming in from the cable itself.we actually went down the alley listening in on conversations going on in the houses we were passing) I don't know if the visual signal is also being transmitted. The ONLY way to protect yourself is to remove all cable television from your house. (this is another thing that we saw -..Scary point three: both are active. the (then ungrounded) wire IN the house is transmitting a signal that can be picked up from some distance away. so even if you disconnect your cable connection to the house. The cable person made comments of agreement when the power-company person talked about people not accepting these things in the US.. and remove the cable and other outside connections to your television. even if the television is turned off. This is because.. but I <KNOW> that the audio signal was going out bright and clear! There are also places in Europe where these services are (were being) offered on a commercial basis.

was taking records from the three different organizations. one week in a cable company truck or car. Each of us were considered to be the experts in our fields. they used people who were 'techies' instead of just installers. > > Ever the skeptic. Given that. Because of the requirements of the project. We spent six months riding around in company trucks going from place to place. at least in that area. The power company person showed us some of the FM transmitters at one of the . which had a person accompany us from time to time). I just wish that I could provide you with the answer. Part of what we were doing. One week we'd be in an electric company truck.. repairmen. it would be a simple matter for >many of us to independently verify it.. in the joint project.>>were passing) I don't know if the visual signal is also being transmitted. nor do I condemn it in the least. checking on the accuracy of the records for that place. All I know is that the unit that he was using was fairly standard issue. and verifying their accuracy (part of a requirement from the Texas Public Utilities Commission (PUC). etc. but >>I <KNOW> that the audio signal was going out bright and clear! > >Lee: > I don't doubt that this is possible. but it would help us verify it if >you could provide a frequency. another week in my phone company car. I don't doubt your skepticism.

The cable person called in for a listing of registered users and services. the power company was not in the business of supplying the security for this company. He made darn sure that he disabled everything and removed all of the options from the menus. so I at least saw that piece of equipment. and programmed in some of the additional options (something that at the time he said not even the PUC knew about -. he said. The transmitters. Since nobody was in the break room at the time. we started to hear noises coming from the built-in speaker on the control unit that he was working on. etc. Getting back to listening in on the conversations in the houses. were turned down enough so that the signal didn't just go out over the entire electrical net. but the power company person wanted something more than talk. The cable company guy took us into one of the local cable company central sites. We were in the cable company truck while he was talking about this option. he went in and started talking to us in a whisper. These were compared with what was actually in . Now. He pointed out some of the various units and repeaters (something that takes a signal and boosts it so that it can travel further) when he commented on the ungrounded cable becoming a radio antenna. I could see how that could work. We couldn't hear everything he said. So we went behind a rather large apartment complex. that he had added. Almost at once.companies while we were there. they just had the listening devices installed that interfaces with someone else's unit on-site.remember they were still not even talking about this much within their own ranks) for both the central unit and the cable-ready television that was in the break room there. bue we heard enough to know that it was really working.

but was never able to really make them understand what I was wanting (I don't speak German well enough. There was a lot of static and noise and stuff most of the time that the pole was being passed across the various connections. The cable person then went to the back of the truck and took out a pole that exteneded quite a ways (perhaps fifteen feet) with a dense antenna at the end.use (at the central connection for the building). knowing that we were both as technically knowledgeable as he/she was. like was done at the central office. This person. and none of . but at that time. WOULD NOT give out more details than that (notice that I have been trying to keep my descriptions as generic as possible). I've called around here. but every once in a while. I <did> try to contact a cable company in one of the towns in Germany that I had lived in to see if they were aware of these things and could give me more details. I might add). We were then told that if the units were truly programmed properly. that there was some sort of way that they would be (in future tense) able to put them on separate frequencies. then each signal <might> be heard a little better. so I don't know anything more. that if the unit was programmed properly. or faked that they did not understand what I wanted). there came through a very clear signal. That's all that I can provide for now.a baby crying that sounded fairly far away. and they either did not understand English enough. Noises that were clearly from various parts of the apartment were being heard -. This got plugged into a box with a speaker. with the unauthorized services being disconnected (quite a lot of them. like from another room. Also. This future time was awaiting the advent of fiber-optic cabling (then still mostly a theory). it was not possible. etc.

this has <> been the case for over a dozen years. <> <> <> <> >An acquaintance who is involved with telecommunications recently told me <> >that the spooks have the ability to listen in ("two way interaction" is <> >the way he put it) through some kind of "black box" in our television <> [ snip ] <> First off. cust reps. but as a Ham and an EE. and wanted the same security features that I had in Ramstein. Not even when I tried to fake it by saying that I was living here on a temp visa. public relations type who tells me that I'm not even in the same solar system as reality. it all seems <> technically feasible to me. and no matter who I call (service. I am transferred to some glibb.. In fact.the cable people will give me an answer. but as fact. etc). Comments are invited.. I can confirm this as a non-rumor. Lee Subject: Re: Privacy and Cable TV <> Bill wrote: <> <> I spotted this on another list and thought y'all might be interested. I do not <> vouch for the accuracy of this info. slick-tonged. The 'cable-ready' set has had this .

I was for about 3 years within the heart of this entire system. The system prior to the hand-held devices were somewhat larger devices which were typically used on big rig trucks for tracking and 2-way communications between driver and company HQ. As it was all a big prototype it was quite open (internally). I used to work for a company (which no longer exists) that pioneered the development of commercial use of mobile hand-held 2-way satcom transceivers. but I digress). I have not been involved with this for several years. whatever.<> ability since the term 'cable-ready' came to be. not only the customer and us. Anyway. since of course. refrigeration units on trucks. the transceiver manufacturer had absolute control of all these devices any time they wanted to use it (of course. In one experiment that I was part of. The bottom line is. But. I was involved to the link-level of this protocol and discovered that the manufacturer of one of the transceivers we used had built-in "master" codes that could be used to activate or deactivate any function of the transceiver from the manufacturers HQ. so did I. to the point. the manufacturers had full access within our system "for diagnostic and testing purposes". Some of these devices were being used as unmanned communications devices monitoring and controlling offshore oil rigs. the hand-held models were prototype and (at least during the company's official existence) were never completed. <> I can confirm a similar practice within satellite communications products. we even used these devices to download and execute new software for various computing devices that were connected at the other . At the time.

I have been intentionally vague about the details. I'm sure if "they" wanted to fully develop all of there capabilities it would be done by now. Meaning computers that controlled whatever. The stated intended use of this technology was to vastly improve air traffic control (too much control if you ask me). in an unmanned remote location (wherever) could be reprogrammed and executed via this satcom transceiver. I was simply told "who cares." Just another example of what goes on behind and within the scenes. This was 1991. Bob This file was found elsewhere on the Internet Home . The transceiver manufacturer in this case was a Japanese company. When I presented the complete proof of this capability within the protocol and demonstrated it.end.