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9/11 ATCSCC TAPE TRANSCRIPTION DRMl DAT2 Ch.21 TT OP ATCSCC RFAA 11356 J

Transcribed by Mark Egan

from the audio tapes provided to Alderson Reporting
P R O C E E D I N G S MALE SPEAKER 1: 12 hours, 30 minutes,

30 seconds.

(Beep.)
MALE SPEAKER 35 seconds. 1: 1: 12 hours, 12

30 minutes,

(Beep.)
MALE SPEAKER hours, 30 minutes,

40 seconds.
45 seconds.

(Beep.) MALE SPEAKER 1: 12 hours, 30 minutes, (Beep.)
MALE SPEAKER 1: 12 hours, 30 minutes,

50 seconds.

(Beep.) (Pause.)
MALE SPEAKER 1: (inaudible).

MALE SPEAKER 2:
(Static.)

(inaudible).

MALE SPEAKER 1: We're going to have to (inaudible) with a southeast (inaudible). He said he'd sleep on it. (inaudible), what's the progress? MALE SPEAKER 2: We've got the (inaudible) .
MALE SPEAKER 1: Okay. MALE SPEAKER 2: We've got

the area

involved (inaudible), right here.
MALE SPEAKER 1: All right.

York?

well, do you want me to head for New
MALE SPEAKER 3: MALE SPEAKER 2:

MALE SPEAKER 1:

(inaudible).

(inaudible).
(inaudible) definitely

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Ch2lTTOPDRMlDAT220031224[l] looking to search. MALE SPEAKER 1: (inaudible) trouble (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 2: Copy, (inaudible). (Telephone dialing sound.) MALE SPEAKER 1: (inaudible).
MALE SPEAKER

compared to that guy.
MALE SPEAKER 1: MALE SPEAKER 2: MALE SPEAKER 1:

2:

No,

(inaudible)

(inaudible).
MALE SPEAKER

(inaudible) . Southwest or northwest, (inaudible) northwest
2:

(inaudible). call the FAA (inaudible).

(inaudible) target. (inaudible). Okay, I'm going

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MALE SPEAKER 1: FEMALE SPEAKER 1

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MALE SPEAKER 1: Yeah, go ahead. (inaudible) everything, everything, yes. (inaudible). I want everything (inaudible). 53, 54, 52, 51, (inaudible). FEMALE SPEAKER 1: (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 1: (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 2: (inaudible) range, 53. All right, 288 for (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 3: 288 (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 2: (inaudible). FEMALE SPEAKER 1: I have 288 for (inaudible). I have a 287 for 97. Yup. Yup. (inaudible) I do. I have two real close to go, so (inaudible). One has a code of 7112, the one right next to them. Yup, yup. (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 1: what the hell was that? Did you see that? MALE SPEAKER 2: Yes.

MALE SPEAKER 3:
MALE SPEAKER 2:
MALE SPEAKER

(inaudible).
(inaudible).
1: Yes, just watch

(inaudible), because you're going to need it. MALE SPEAKER 2: what's the special (inaudible)? MALE SPEAKER 1: That's all that's active, special 15. MALE SPEAKER 3: 162, 149, reporting, 59 miles, searching. You've going to get a 1304 clock at this side. Watch the 1504, guy. That's not the guy yet. (inaudible) 3 for 56 out of 62. 153 (inaudible) 6. we're looking for a 1304 code. MALE SPEAKER 1: Are they heading into Boston? MALE SPEAKER 3: No, (inaudible) Logan. MALE SPEAKER 1: Let me know once they're heading into Boston, right, okay? Because we've got to watch the (inaudible). All right, let's go. what have you got altitude at? MALE SPEAKER 2: We got their altitude. Page 2

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Ch2lTTOPDRMlDAT220031224[l] (inaudible) coming in, 29,000?
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: NO, 28.6. MALE SPEAKER 2: okay, 28.6. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: 28.2 now.

MALE SPEAKER 2: okay, that's fine, just give me by 1,000 increments if it drops on yours. I'm going to watch it here.
28.6, I've got 28.6 now tracking.

FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Now I'm down to 27.8.
MALE SPEAKER 2: 2-7-9.

MALE SPEAKER 3: (inaudible). FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Now they're down, they're 27.2. 27.1, (inaudible).

Yes, he came in and out saying he needed help when I first got here, and they said about right now, and I don't know where he went (inaudible) .

(inaudible). 27. So far I've had (inaudible) at 27. He came in, he was going to pick something up from (inaudible). He's still at 27 26.9. .7. 26. 26. 5. Yep, yep. 25.8. 25.3.
BACKGROUND MALE: FEMALE SPEAKER 1 :

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24.1 quick, he's dropping now quick, (inaudible). 24. (inaudible) a turn (inaudible). 24 and he made another turn. He's turning right now. He's making a turn. Man, I would have (inaudible). 23.9 (inaudible). He's made another turn. He's coming around, yes. 23.7. 23.4. 23.

24.9. 24.4. 24.2.

that we got. have all of to call

I called theirs Canada, but

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17.7. I tried (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 2: (inaudible) out of the water Page

I'm gping to drop my (inaudible). 3

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Ch2lTTOPDRMlDAT220031224[l] FEMALE SPEAKER 1: 17.1. MALE SPEAKER 2: (inaudible). FEMALE SPEAKER 1: (inaudible) (inaudible).

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(inaudible).

where'd he go?

I lost

him.

I lost him, Jeff. MALE SPEAKER 2:
FEMALE SPEAKER 1:

Okay, he's at 15, (inaudible).
12.6, Jeff.

14.4. 13.8.

12.1. 11.6.
MALE SPEAKER 2: (inaudible), copy. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: 10.1. MALE SPEAKER 1: Let me go check (inaudible).

MALE SPEAKER 2: Let's go do that. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: (inaudible).
MALE SPEAKER 2:

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FEMALE SPEAKER 1: -- 2. MALE SPEAKER 1: Let me know if he turns back into the area of a major city, it looks like (inaudible). FEMALE SPEAKER 1: He's down to 9. Oh my God. (inaudible). 9.7. 9.4.

(inaudible).

You just stop that

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Holy crap, look at that.

MALE SPEAKER 1: (inaudible). FEMALE SPEAKER 1: 9.1, Jeff.

Getting

near the Pentagon, isn't he?
8.7. Yes, 8,700. He's staying at 8 . 7 . (inaudible) have decided they're going to clear pretty quick. They're jumping a lot of plays today, yes. Rick told me when I came in that (inaudible) . Still at 8 . 7 . H e ' s turning a little bit. (inaudible). 8 . 6 . (inaudible), moved up. MALE SPEAKER 1: (inaudible) hit the

Pentagon, it got it. Mike or Al told me it got it. A (inaudible) aircraft or a fighter took it out, one or the other. Come on, guys. Let's get these fucking assholes down. We have to (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 2: oh my God, w e ' r e up. (inaudible). FEMALE SPEAKER 1: --79.

MALE SPEAKER 1: Boy, I tell you what. I'd have Syracuse up flying here, (inaudible), it's a big area. MALE SPEAKER 2: They've got to get all these aircraft (inaudible).
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: 70, 7-0. 73, Jeff.

I

have.

MALE SPEAKER 1: (inaudible) longer than (inaudible) longer than I have. Page 4

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(inaudible). FEMALE SPEAKER 1: (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 1: I don't want to track a specific. I want you to do your track of the area. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Shall I copy you? MALE SPEAKER 1: I want to try to (inaudible) track a certain area.
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: 6.

(inaudible), okay. 6.7. okay, (inaudible). (Pause on recording.) MALE SPEAKER 3: (inaudible).
MALE SPEAKER 2: (inaudible) going which (inaudible). what's the Saddle track

way?
MALE SPEAKER 3: 21 3:

50.
MALE SPEAKER

number?
MALE SPEAKER

That'll flow

through

when you put your (inaudible) code in MALE SPEAKER 1: Bravo, it's 089. We've blocked off BRU. Yes. It ain't going to drop. I can tell you right now, it's not going to drop, I know, but it s not going to drop, though, because it's too late, (inaudible). what's the v 091nt? Copy, I see this, I see the (inaudible), it's zero (inaudible), a flight over Cleveland here (inaudible). (Pause.)
MALE SPEAKER 1: Sure.

Oh, it's too much. MALE SPEAKER 4: (inaudible) has stopped. MALE SPEAKER 1: (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 2: Say again? MALE SPEAKER 1: use the 53 (inaudible), which one are you MALE SPEAKER 2: talking about? MALE SPEAKER 1: (inaudible) 4 and 6, (inaudible) 630 just (inaudible), okay, 53. popped up.
MALE SPEAKER 2: MALE SPEAKER 1:

just popped up out (inaudible), wasn't it?

630? Yes, this guy here. He That was of nowhere. No. 1: (inaudible). All right. it.

MALE SPEAKER 2: MALE SPEAKER

(inaudible). Hold on. No, (inaudible) two up. Okay, they're taking care of They'll put our track on it (inaudible).

(inaudible) for a MALE SPEAKER 2 Let's see, 14-10. second. (inaudible), (inaudible) south, we're also trying to find this guy. w e ' r e also trying to find the other guy with (inaudible) of 1527 (inaudi ble).

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does that tell me? MALE SPEAKER 1: (inaudible). He's going out after (inaudible) aircraft in the area. MALE SPEAKER 2: Stand by. MALE SPEAKER 1: He's (inaudible) friend and foe quickly, too. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: I hear you, Tommy. Go ahead. MALE SPEAKER 4: I'm just watching down the row here (inaudible). FEMALE SPEAKER 1: okay, hang on. I'm
trying to find him.

feet.

MALE SPEAKER 4: (inaudible). He's down to 10,000 feet? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 4: He's down to 10,000

MALE SPEAKER 1: (inaudible) out of the way then, guy. (inaudible). what did we figure out about this (inaudible) up here? Don't worry about it. It's something they may be looking for, okay. They put a v point there to ID that they're looking for something. Let's get rid of these lost tracks, okay, (inaudible) no data drop out because they're going to fire the scope. MALE SPEAKER 2: (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 1: 35, 4, 5. okay, that's it. (inaudible) 5. we don't want to go there yet, though. (inaudible), he's down to 345 knots, cuts out the (inaudible). I told (inaudible) this guy don't have (inaudible). Maybe (inaudible) will try and (inaudible). There's two aircraft, (inaudible). How are we doing? Get, call Cannon and ask him that it looks like there's two aircraft there, coming right there. Okay, these two are now -MALE SPEAKER 2: I copy.

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MALE SPEAKER 1: (inaudible). No, I got my cup of coffee; I'm good now. (inaudible), okay. I'll tell you what (Pause.) MALE SPEAKER 4: (inaudible) accept this, one guy come over and (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 1: No, not yet. Hold on. MALE SPEAKER 2: (inaudible). They may be military aircraft, but (inaudible) one track. what have we got now? (inaudible) track to get an eye on. we're looking for, up front here we're looking for a track coming out of Canada. MALE SPEAKER 3: 33 (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 2: All right, 33. Just - you've got to tell me where. MALE SPEAKER 3: (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 2: Yes. They're squawking?
MALE SPEAKER 3: MALE SPEAKER Yes. 2: All right.

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FEMALE SPEAKER 1: when you get a chance, if you can take care of some of the (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 2: (inaudible). FEMALE SPEAKER 1: (inaudible). we're going to have our (inaudible). what is that background (inaudible)? No more fading in and out. They're not doing a really good job coming in, locating groups, (inaudible). Let's see who's out in the break room. I'll see if they can (inaudible). Okay, because they're not going to be able to get in anyway. Here's the President. I can hear it. (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 2: (inaudible) check on the Canada, too, (inaudible). (Pause.) FEMALE SPEAKER 1: (inaudible). All right, let me -MALE SPEAKER 4: Am I clear to drop (inaudible) over land when we go (inaudible)? MALE SPEAKER 2: Yes. if there's no dead or nothing (inaudible), you don't need to clear the area. Right, we'll do what (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 3: (inaudible). FEMALE SPEAKER 1: okay, fine. I want to make sure everybody's getting (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 3: Mike's sitting. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: How long has he been sitting? MALE SPEAKER 3: He's been here around half an hour, 45 minutes, something in there. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: (inaudible) through here for a track also. MALE SPEAKER 3: what did you say? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Get a (inaudible) crew also here to track so we can start locating (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 2: I've got another DQ incoming in. You keep operating up there. (inaudible) somebody with DK, DF, DQ. McConne11, what (inaudible) do you have? DO you have anything that goes with water? MALE SPEAKER 1: (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 2: Do you have vodka?
MALE SPEAKER 1: MALE SPEAKER 2: Yes. Gotcha.

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All right, go ahead, (inaudible). Hey, that little cluster of aircraft that was up there by that point of water, they've all come apart. what do you want me to do with that? It looks like an A-10 coming in with a tanker, okay. MALE SPEAKER 3: All right. MALE SPEAKER 2: So just try to keep your symbology with it. (inaudible) in the general direction, because it could be a tanker probably, not a regular. MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay, good enough. Page 7

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told me about it. MALE SPEAKER 2: (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 1: Down there at 72, there's two tracks that haye been extrapolated for a very long time. (inaudible). Just wanted to make sure that (inaudible). if you get a phone call from anybody on anything that's going on, don't forget: You direct them to Public Affairs or MPC. Copy that? MALE SPEAKER 2: Fair enough, copy. MALE SPEAKER 1: All right. MALE SPEAKER 2: Everything's to be secured. Everything's to be secure, other than our (inaudible) with 201 (inaudible) that's over water (inaudible) for Larry. MALE SPEAKER 3: (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 2: You think it's right there?
MALE SPEAKER 3: Yes.

MALE SPEAKER 3: Copy. Didn't know he was airborne until

you

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MALE SPEAKER 2:

How many do you think

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(inaudible). My question is, (inaudible) and all that. NOW, when that was implemented the pilots have to land here S9on, am I correct, (inaudible) the airport? (inaudible). (Laughter.) MALE SPEAKER 2: The Canadian (inaudible) every day, welcome to America, (inaudible). And I just went, whoa. Did you see the Pentagon, the pictures of the Pentagon? (inaudible). well, suppose you take out the world Trade Towers (inaudible). FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Now, (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 4: We could bring everybody into work right now. I think we're getting to the point we ought to start shooting all the ragheads. I was at Rhine-Main when they blew that base up and I was at Ramstein when they blew that base up. They found ten pounds of plastic explosives underneath the (inaudible) Air Force Base (inaudible). They don't look friendly there. we get the heat (inaudible), so why the hell do we care? MALE SPEAKER 3: Because the ultimate (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 4: (inaudible). The (inaudible) are being cut. I told them that two months -- a month ago to do that. Page 8

are airborne? MALE SPEAKER 3: (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 2: And we've got only (inaudible) to look at the search, (inaudible). No, if h e ' s airborne he already

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Ch2lTTOPDRMlDAT220031224[l] just came in. I didn't

dress, I

didn't (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 3: We needed a (inaudible) right here, (inaudible) Canada. I think I'm off (inaudible) .

I got the eye cut out of (inaudible).

MALE SPEAKER 1: We've got a tracker watching essentially anything else, and watchers - and another watching the (inaudible) area. MALE SPEAKER 2: Just for your edification, (inaudible) those two cities. MALE SPEAKER 1: So what I'm doing here is I'm trying to watch from Cleveland over to Newark towards Maine.
MALE SPEAKER 2:

MALE SPEAKER 1: Hey, AFP. This is AFP7. (inaudible) to verify. I didn't (inaudible) New York and D . C . , right? You got (inaudible) tracker watching New York and a tracker watching the BWI area. MALE SPEAKER 2: Right.

MALE (inaudible) . MALE Connecticut and MALE Connecticut and f i ne .

SPEAKER 1:

Yup. You guys got

the zone

SPEAKER 2: Okay. Here is to watch -SPEAKER 1: Oh, no, we've got those areas. I can see all that MALE SPEAKER 2: Okay. MALE SPEAKER 1: But if you guys take it (inaudible) . we can take New York MALE SPEAKER 2 City down to Washington. MALE SPEAKER 1: Okay. MALE SPEAKER 2: All right. MALE SPEAKER 1: Okay, (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 3 Hey, Jack, you got any that's headed toward info on that special
(inaudible)? MALE SPEAKER 4:

No, I having nothing on

that. MALE SPEAKER 3: (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 4: what's the deal with that special? She's dropping in altitude. MALE SPEAKER 3: we have no idea. He's already carrying (inaudible). That's the guy you got to watch there. MALE SPEAKER 4 Okay, (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER That'll keep them
quiet, (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 3 MALE SPEAKER 2:

pay attention there. on top of boxes?

(inaudible). Bravo. You've got to He' s talking about directly

MALE SPEAKER 1: Yes (End of recording.)

(inaudible).

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