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FBI #4-DN-57419

l'EFFCO CASE #99- 7625


CONTROL #2725

VALERIE JUGERT
5860 W. Plymouth Dr.
Littleton, CO. 80123
303979.2010

05/18/99.0930 hrs, Valerie Jugert was interviewed at her home by Detective S.C. Shott
#72049 (DPD). Her mother. Charlene Jugert, waspresent and sat in on the interview.

Valerie stated that attended her 41h period gym class, which she got early because she did
not have to shower. She arrived at the cafeteria at around 11:OOAM and she met with her
regular friends, who she identified as Lorren Beyer. Sara Aipia(?), Julie Naslin(?}, Alex
Goldberg, Nicole Ray and Jennifer MunSOlL They all sat at their regular table she
identified as table V on the seatingchart.

Valerie said that she did not know that there wasa problem until she saw Mr. Sanders ron
by and instructing everyone to get underthe tables. She first thought that it was a senior
prank and students started to get up to see what was going on. Someone yelled for
everyone to get back down and she heard someone say that there were people with guns.
Valerie said that when everyone started to run from the cafeteria, she followed suit. She
ran out of the mainentrance then up the stairs towards the library. She then ran down me
hallway past the science and math classrooms then out a door on the opposite end of the
cafeteria. She said that once outside, she jumped a fence. ran across 5. Pierce 51. and
didn't stop until she got 10 Leawood Park. While in the park, she said that she could hear
what sounded like gunshots coming from the school. She then ran to a nearby house to
makea telephone call then she walked overand mether sister at the Leawood elementary
school. Valerie said that while she was in the cafeteria, she did not hear any explosions
Or gunshots. The only shots she heard werewhen she was standingin the park. She did
not see a gunman or anyone acting suspicious.

Valerie said that she does not know Eric Harris or Dylan Klebold personally. She said
that she only knew them by sight seeing them at school. She was aware of the Trench
Coat Mafia and knew thaI they dressed different wearing trench coats. She did not see
Eric or Dylan on the Monday before the incident or on the day of the incident. She did
not see a black duffel bag in the cafeteria prior to the incident nor did she see anyone
bringing one in. Valerie said that she left her backpack in the cafeteriaand it should be
on the floor near where she was sitting. She described her pack as a black "North Face"
and it should contain one text book and misc. school papers. She has not heard of any
rumors or talk about any other suspects thatcould havebeen involved.

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TEAM FOUR INTERVIEW GUIDELINE
MINIMAL QUESTIONS TO BE ASKED

I, Oldyouever see th. two largeduffel bags in the cafeteria 1 flO


2. Did yousee OI1yo•• cmyi!lg or in the ~oa of mo.. duffel bOllS, at a previous timIe 1 nv
3. Didyou seeEric Ham,or DylanKleboldeitbesoa MondayofTuesday 1 Wbat ...... theydoing?
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4. DidyouI..ve 3Ilything behind ia the cafe"",", or an~ else in tlleschcol ? ~es, boLtro: "bo<:i:.S ,n l<rt.':t:s
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!4. Do youknow anybody W\!b a "double pierced eyebrow" ? flO

15. Did you see or boot any \llIusua! '",,,,,m=:nen ts prior to !lie shootings ? 00 yea knowwbat tlle

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16. Can youprovldllany tbrther iaf~ on the IllIllllbet! of tlleT...... Coat Malia ?
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11. Ask m. p"""," iftlle lcids nave told tbem ""ydling else' Different?

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TEAM FOUR Thi'TERVIEW GUIDELINE
MINIMAL QUESTIONS TO BE ASKED

I. Did youeversee tb<! two large duffel bags'" thocafOlOria? ~c

2. Did you see anyo•• ClI1T)Iing or in the possession of mose duffel bags. at a previous time ? No
3. Didyou see En< Ham. or Dylan laobold oitb<:r on Mpodayof Tuesday ? What wm lIJey doirlg ?
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4. Did you leave anytllillg behind In tilecafeoeria or anywbere else irl the school?
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S. Who were you with in mecafeteria. '} Mete wereyousitti.ng ?

6. Did you see or talkto any of the TteIlClt Coat MafialIlOlll!>ers on Mondoy' Tuesday? Howabout the
priorwookorwoekelld? \~ - +a.t~ ~ "line Ll'" "" c ......... b... c .... j.-.
1. Ha'0 .you bOO<d anytllillg from anybody else about ocher5USJIl!d", btlmb IIl1\IIiq. IlU" buyiq, el<. ?
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IO. Whattime did yOU enter tile cafe....... ? \!Ibero did you co"," from (prior III the <O!illeria) ?
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12. How did you exit thobuild!llg? Wberodid you go wbenyou gOt ou,and what did yousee on lit.
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13. De youuse <he !Jlt<met? If so. wbar is yourscreen ttIlIlC? Do you !lave an ICQ (alta: 1 see. you I
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16. Canyouprovide any &rtllet lllformation on the ll>!mbers of the TrcDCh Coat Mafia ?
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KASTANEK. L

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FBI #4-DN·57419
JEFFCO CASE 1m-7625
CONTROL#2727

LIl'illSEY KASTANEK
5473 S. Hotland St.
Littleton, CO. 80123
303.979.8592

05/17199, litO hrs. Lindsey Kastanek was interviewed at her home by Detective S.C.
Shott #72049 (DPD).

Lindsey stated that she attended her 4 il1 period Spanish class lhat ended at 1110 hrs, She
walked directly to tbe cafeteria and sat at a table that she pointed OUt on the seating chart
as table KK. She said that she could not recall who was at !he table with her but she
could remember that when she ducked under tne table. Shannon Myers was under there
with her. Lindseysaid that she was unaware that something was happening unit she saw
several studentsjump up at a table nearby. She first thought that there was going to be a
fight. Then Mr. Sanders and a janitor came running by and were telling everyone to get
under the tables. She said that while under the table. she did nor hear any explosions but
thought that she might have heard what sounded like gunshots. She said that when
everyone began running from the cafeteria, she followed suit. She exited the cafeteria
through the main door then she ran up the stairs, past the library then down a hallway
passing the science rooms and math rooms. She exited the school through the doorway
on the opposite end of the cafeteria, ran across S. Pierce St. and did not stop until she got
to Leawoood Park. Lindsey said that she was in !he park for approximately 15 minutes
when a reachercame by and told everyonerun from the area.

Lindseysaid that she left her backpack in the cafeteriaon the floor near the chair she was
sitting at. She described her pack as a royal blue "Ianspcrt" that contained misc. school
books and papers. She said that she does not know either Eric Harris or Dylan Klebold.
She has never heard of the Trench Coat Mafia and does not know any of the members.
She did not see any duffel bags in the cafeteria prior to the incident nor did she see
anyone bringing any duffel bags In.

Lindsey said that the only rumor she heard was while talking about the incident while
attending Chatfield HS. She heard students saying that they saw a guy wearing a white
Tvshirt throwing bomb. She did not recall whom the student was who was talking about
it.

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04/27/99
Timothy Earl KASTLe, DOB: 07/04/81, was contacted at
hia residence, 8973 Brandt Place, Littleton, Colorado on April
24, 1999 at approximately 4:30 PH. He was advised of the
personal and professional identities of the writer and Agent
Jerry Means of the Colorado Bureau of Investiqation. KASTLE's
parents, Earl ancl Killl KASTLe, were present. durinq the interview.
KASTLE aclviaecl that he is a senior at Columbine Hiqh
School. He aclvisecl that on April 20, 1999 he was in the
cafeteria talldnq to a friend, Aclam SANDS, who was seatecl by the
west window of the cafeteria, KASTLe said that he was not
planninq to have lunch in the cafeteria, but just stoppecl by to
see friends.
KASTLE statecl that he suddenly heard two loud banqs,
and then heard a taacher, Mr. SANDERS, shout at everyone to get
down. KASTLE stated that he first went into the kitchen, and
then into the teacher's lounge. He overheard someone saying that
someone had been shot.
KASTLE went into the bathroom, where he was joinecl by
students Niok FOSS and Sean NOSSAMAN, and teachers Sue
CAll.Rll'rHERS, Joyce JANKOWSKI and a fSlllale teacher WhOlll he did not
know.
KASTLe stated that when he went into the faculty
lounge, he could see two bodies laying outside the window on the
west side of the cafeteria. One of these subjects appeared to
have had his face shot.
They locked the bathroom door, and heard numerous
noises inoluding loud banqs, soreaming and the sound of people
running. KASTLE stated that the sounds seemed to be coming frolll
right outside the door.
Concerned that sOllleone miqht come in to qet them, they
began to disouss climbing up in the ceiling to hide or esoape.
KASTLE olimbed up into the oeilinq, then assisted Joyce JANKOWSKI
in qettinq up into the suspended ceilinq area. JANKOWSKI lIIoved
to the west to an area just beyond the bathroom wall, over the
area of the faCUlty lounqe. JANKOWSKI then fell throuqh the

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by Agent Frank R, Vanece ( ellI


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174A-DN-57419 I 99-7625 (Jeffco)

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ceiling, and into the lounge. She then scrambled back into the
bathroom.
KASTLE stated that he crawled on top of a metal heatinq
duct, and moved toward the kitchen, lookinq for a place to hide.
As he did so, he knocked several ceiling tiles off in the area of
a small bathroom which services the kitchen, and Which is
adjacent to the bathroom they had been hiding in.
KASTLE then began moving west, following the metal
ductwork and then moving along a metal pipe held up by some
wires. As KASTLE reached the area of th.. w....t wall, he looked
back to the area over the bathroom in the kitchen area. As he
did, he Observed a SUbject in that area, whose head was just
above the ceiling area. KASTLE said that the subject Was
pointing what he believed was a shotgun at him. He advis~d that
he based this on the manner in which the subject pointed the gun
at him. KASTLE stated that it WllS dark, and he could not see the
subject well. He described the subject as having shOUlder-length
dark hair. KASTLE stated that he believed that the SUbject was
Dylan lU.EBOLO. He said he based this on the fact that ehe
subject had not shot him, as KASTLE advised he is a friend of
lU.EBOLO's. KASTLE stated that the hair he described did not fit
KLEBOLO, and nothing about what he observed of the sUbject led
him to his conclusion that the subject could be KLEBOLO.
KASTLE kicked the ceiling tiles down where he was, and
dropped through the ceiling. He landed in the faCUlty lounge
next to the window through which he and others had earlier seen
the bodies. KASTLE stated that at that time the window was
intact. He then escaped the building via the door located just
within the cafeteria area and ran to a marked police unit on the
west side. He glanced toward the oafeteria area as he ran out,
and did not see anyone inside. KASTLE stated that approximately
one or two minutes later he saw sean NOSSAMAN, Nick ross, and two
of the teachers run out. ross later told him that he too had
qone up into the ceilinq area.
KASTLE recalled that at some point while they were in
the bathroom ~ea, Nick ross said that one of the shooter's was
"the kid in the next class that wore qlasses - Dylan'. KASTLE
also recalled a conversation with Nate DYKEMAN in which DYKEMAN
oommented that Erio HARRIS and Dylan KLEBOLO were not at school.

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DYKEMAN told KASTLE that they had to be up to something, as they
~ere never gone together in the past.

KASTLE descrihed himself as being a friend of Dylan


KLEBOLD's. He stated that he had talked to him the previous
evening and were talking about some trades involving their
fantasy haseball teams. He recalled that KLEBOLD talked about
working a trade with Adam SANDS for player Roger Clemons. KASTLE
characterized the conversation as being very normal, as ~as
KLEBOLD's mood and demeanor.
KASTLE stated that he has known Dylan KLEBOLD for
approximately three years, through school and their joint
interest in fantasy baseball. KASTLE stated that he has had
KLEBOLD in at least one class each semester since his second
semester at Columbine High School.
, KASTLE advised that there is a group of individuals Idlo
participate in the fantasy baseball league, and utilize a website
belonging to Chad LAUGHLIN. KASTLE advised that the Internet
address for the website is HTTP://members.AOL.com/orgasmo007.
KASTLE stated that he only recently got an E-mail account, and
has never received any E-mail on it. He advised that his screen
name is 'saltysquirts99" , and his password is 'wackit'.
KASTLE stated that the 'team owners' of the fantasy
baseball teams inclUded himself. Dylan KLEBOLD, Adam SANDS, Chad
LAUGHLIN, Cliff ANDREWS, Ben HANSON, Dan PALMENTER, 3ason SANDS,
Jason FRASIER, 3ustin PALMENTER, Chris HOWELL, and Dan H1ILSE'i.
KASTLE stated that he talked to KLEBOLD on a daily
basis and currently had a class with him in fourth hour. They
are both involved in video production. KASTLE stated that he has
heard media aocounts ahout videos that KLEBOLD allegedly made
which depicted events similar to what occurred at CBS on
04/20/99. KASTLE stated that he never saw any suoh video.
KASTLE stated that he is not a member of the group
which has come to be known as the 'Trenchcoat Mafia', but has
another friend who is named Nate DYKEMAN. KASTLE stated that
DYKEMAN worked with Eric HARRIS and KLEBOLD at Blackjack pizza,
and that DYKEMAN was KLEBOLD's best friend until DYKEMAN became
involved with Kristi EPPLING.

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KASTLE stated that he had Eric HARRIS in his fifth hour


class, and also spoke with him almost every morning. KASTLE
advised that HARRIS kept to himself, and recalled HARRIS being
upset about not having a prom date.
KASTLE was asked about KLEBOLD's hobbies and interests.
He stated that KLEBOLD was into hard-punk music like Marilyn
HANSON, and. the German rock band lIMFDM. KLDOLD was also a Red
SOX fan and a Roger Clemons fan. KASTLE stated. that KLEBOLD was
a good guy, and. that what took place was dafinitely out of
character for him.
KASTLE stated that he has never been to KLEBOLD's
residence. He has never heard him discuss anything about gUnS,
bombs, or mentioned things like the Anarchist cookbook.
KASTLE recalled Nate OYKEJolAN telling him that HARRIS
and KLDOLD never made it to their bowling class on the lllorning
of the shooting. chad LAUGHLIN also told him that as he was
leaving campus and KLEBOLD was arriving, LAUGHLIN 'flipped off'
KLEBOLD in the parking lot.
KASTLE stated that he was interviewed on 20/20 at his
residence. He said that while the crew was there, he overheard a
female crew member saying that _ had brought a duffel
bag to the school. He did not ~ female crew member
was.

JC.Q01· 003420
Denver Police Department

Metro Gang Task Force

Date: 05-06-99
To: The Jefferson County District Attorneys Office
From: Detective Terry Demmel 78007-Assigned with the Columbine Law Enforcement
TaskForce

Supplementary Report

Ref: interview of Columbine Senior studentTimothy Kastle DOB07-()4..81

On 05-06·99at 10:00 A.M. Detective Terry Demmei, assigned with the Columbine Law
Enforcement Task Force, contacted Columbine Seniorstudent Timothy KastleDOB 07-
04-81 at his home for the purpose of an interview. Tim's motherKim was presentand
stated that Tim hadalreadybeen interviewed by the FBIbut agreedto anotherinterview.
Timothyreported that on Tues. the 2r:f' he had4'" period Newspaper class then went
outside and talked with his friends Chad Laughlin and Jeffrey Marquardt. Timreported
thathe couldn't find his friend Andy so he wentinside thecafeteria Tim was talking
withhis friend Adam Sands about baseball when Mr. Sanders came in and told
everybody to get down.

Tim then ran into me kitchen brief!y and then turnedaround and ran into the teachers
lounge. Tim looked out of the windows and saw two students layingon the ground that
werebleeding and appeared to him to have been shot, He could not tell if tilestudents
were maleor female he stated. Tun stayedin the teachers lounge bathroom
approximately I "hours with friends Nick Foss. ShawnNossaman and teachers Sue
Cruthers, JoyceJankowski and anotherunknown female teacher. While in the bathroom
Nick FossboostedTim up intothe ceiling. WhileTim wascrawling up in the ceiling he
knocked a ceiling tile loosethat fell into what he thinks was the kitchen bathroom. He
mencrawledacross some ventpipe material when a party stucktheir head up through the
holeand pointed a gunat him. Tim staredthat he is not surewho the party was bur that
he thinks ir was Dylan Klebold. Tim stated thatbe had known Dylan for tilelast 3 years;
that both Eric Harris and DylanKlebold were in his 5'"hourPsychology class with
teacher Tom Johnson and that he talked with themdailyand considered them good
friends; and that Dylan had been to his birthdaypartyIasryear.

Tim felt that it was Dylan who stuck his head through the ceiling and pointed the gun at
himand then eased backdown withoutsheeringhim. Det.Demmel asked Tim whyhe

JC-001·003421
thought it was probably Dylan tbal pointedthe gun at him and did not shoot him with
Tim relating that he had called Dylan Sunday evening the IS'"at about s:oo or 9'00 P.M.
and that they had discussed a Fantasy League baseball game that they played with 10
other students. Tim explained that his friend Chadlaughlin played the role of the
baseball commissioneror owner and that the people who played the game pretended that
they traded players. He stated that in his conversation with Dylanon the 18'" that Dylan
had talkedabout trading someonefor Yankee's pitcherRogerKlemens. Tim reported
that Dylansattitude and demeanor seemednormal.

In discussingany drug use thai Tim was aware of concerning Eric Harris and Dylan
Kleboid Tim stated thai he was aware that Dylan took some kind of energy pills thai he
boughtat the store.

Tim stated that Nate Dykeman was his best friend and that he had called and talked 10
Nate in Land of Lakes, Florida last night which was May 5'". Tim stated that Nate had
been very close with both Eric Harris and Dylanbut hadrecentlygotten a new girlfriend
by the name of Christy Epling who, along with his job at the Firestone store located at
Pierceand Elmhurst, had kept Nate occupied and busy. In asking what Nate had talked
about in their phone conversationlast nightTim staled that Nate thought that Eric and
Dylan had probably carried their bombsinto the school during a 2 hour block of time that
they disappeared from the after prom parry at theschool. Tim himselfwas at the after
prom party along with his motherKlm who actedas a chaperone. Tim said thai he dido' t
realize that both Eric and Dylan had left from 2:00 to abouI4:00 A.M. but that he did talk
to Dylanabout 4:00 A.M. about boxing with 5 pound gloves in a game that had been set
up for the students. They decided not to box and then wentseparate ways. Tim stated
that Nate had told him that both Eric and Dylan had disappeared from the party between
2:00 and 4:00 and that was his theory of when they may havecarried materials into the
school and hid them.

When Det. Dernmel asked Timothy If Nate Dykeman had any prior knowledge that Eric
Hams and Dylan Klebold were going to do something Tim replied that Nate had said he
knew they were going to do somethingbUI that he did not know they were going to do
what they did

JC.Q01. 003422
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Interviewwith Malt Kalzenmler

On 5-3-99,lnv. Reker did conduct an interviewwith Matt Kalzenmier at his residence with his parents
present.

In that interview Matt did relate that he was In the cafeteria at the vending machines near the west
$ntrance and that he heard 2 shots and yelling In the parking lot and that Shawn l:lraves had been shot as
NeU as another person.

Matt observed 1 suspect by the west entrance to the library and this suspect was described as &3
w\m long brown hair and a black ski mask and biack pants and with an unknown weapon.

Matt then saw another male described as 5-9 w\m with black trench coat and a black basebail hat
turned backwards and that this personthrew a pipe bomb towards the doors.

Matt also states that he observed an older light green car,possibly a Buick, driving around the senior
parking lot and that it contained one person whom he did not know, but that the car ·peeled out" of the
parkinglot when the shooting started.

Matt states that he then went back into the school via the wast cafeteria door and went to the
auditorium where he heard shots and then ran 10 the entrance by the wieght rooms and than out the
building to the softball field, and that a Zack Pleroecame out the door yelling 10 run that "they are shooting
at us',

Matt states that he did not see the gunman come in the west door of the cafeteria.

Matt related mat he heard shots or explosions in the school at the same time that the 2 suspects
were outside the school,

A Nick Goodrich stated to Matt that a person was running down the lanquage arts hallwaytrying to
break windows out with a pistol handleand an unknown person stated to Matt that a person was ;flthe main
hallway at that time with a shotgun and that Matt did not feel it was the original 2 suspects.

Matt stated that Adam Beard is a friend af.the Hams.andJSD.ebo~hat he feels that Beardknows
more about the shooting. He also statedthat ~icheal Bf9Ii1ci1 Adam Bearq..and an oriental student known
as "Klntero"(sp?jallleft school just prior to the shooting an Matt felt this was strange.

At this time the interview was terminated


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SUPPl.EMENT REKER HOMICIDE 99-7525 9-4-99
SECOND INTERVIEW WITH MATT KATZENMEIER
On 9-4-99,Inv. Reker did conduct a second interview
with Katzenmier at his residence with his Grandmother present.
The purpose of the interview was to obtain a complete
clothing descr~ption of the suspects that he observed.
He states that the 1st suspect was of the following
description
black boots,black cargo pants, black t-shirt with
writing,black trench coat. sunglasses, no hat,was short and
skinny,with light brown hair,white male,with a single barrel
sawed off shotgun and an undescribed hand~~.
The 2nd suspect was described as follows:
black boots,black pants, black trench coae.black stocking cap and
taller than the first guy. with ear len~h hair and an unknown
weapon
Katzenmeier was shown a photo lineups ~~d he did pick
out photo *2 which is Eric Harris photo. He did initial above the
photo.
He also states that at the time he observed these 2
persons that he could hear gunshots in the upstairs area of the
school.
He was unable to provide any further info and the
interview was terminated.

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l'vDr.1MAL QUESTIONS TO BE ASKED

Old youever seetherwe large duffel bags in the cafeteria ?

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COLUMBINE mGH SCHOOL TASK FORCE
CONTROL i'o'UM1lER: ~
JCSD CASE NUMBER: 99·7625
FBI CASE NUMBER: 174A-DN-57419
GOLDEN POLICE NUMBER; 99-1362
REPORT DATE. 05/27/99
DETECTIVES. Jon Wazson

Background:
Greg BARNES was in Creative Writingtaughtby Ms. KELLY. Just before class dismissed at
11: to AM on 04-20-99. A student (known as a TeM) ran up to front of class and out of the
roombefore the bell rang. BARNES was unable to find out who the student was.

Lead:
interviewMs. KELLY in Creative Writing class to identifythe student that left the class early.

Disposition:

SUBJECT: Judy KELLY


Teacher
Columbine High School

Ms. KELLY was interviewed on 05-25-99at Chatfield High School, about 12:30hrs,

KELLY had no information about any student who may have run from the room prior to the bell
having rung to end 41!1 hour. She said that prior to the bell. the students lined up at the door as

While interviewing KELLY. I asked if _was


has been theircustomin that class. and she said if one of them left before the bell. it was without
her seeing.

in class on April 20. 1999during


41!1 hour. Her initial reaction was that b~ that day. and said that he frequentlydid
not attendclass. but she wa.; unsure due to the passage of time.

ld KELLY that although two of the students who were in class thai day told me that
@ was not in 4" hour class. the attendance records supportthat he was in class;
w reupon she reversed and said she though~ was there.

KELLY said that the seniorwho sat next ta"could probably tell us if he was in class
that day. Her nameis Crystal BRAGAZZL (Lead generated).

1followed up by re-contacting the source. Greg BARNES (cell phone number 720-951·2180 1
newresidencephone 303-984.Q343). BARNES told me that the student who left the room early
that day was Matt RIECKS. BARNES does not recall BROWN being in class during that
period.

Prior investigation (Controlnumber 3354) reveals that RIECKS is a peripheral associate of the
TCM. and thatbe left class that day to go to the tech lab to get onto the internet prior to going to

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COLllM.B1NE WGH SCHOOL TASK FORCE
CONTROL NUMBER: 3m
JCSD CASENUMBER: 99-7625
FBI CASENUMBER: 174A-DN-57419
GOLDEN POLICE NUMBER: 99-1362
REPORT DATE: 05127199
DETECTIVES: Jon Watson

lunch. He ~e tech lab when the shooting started. and fled the building.
RlECKS is~ best friend.

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Judith Kelly, 8160 West Eaker Avenue, Lakewood,


ColQo:ado 80227, telephone numbe r . (3031989-2201. was advised of
the identity of the interviewing agent and sergeant and the
nature of the interview.
Information was received that Colwnbine High School
counselor! Brad Butts and teacher! Judith Kelly were reportedly
conoerned about a creative writing paper Dylan Klebold wrote
which detailed a planned shooting involving the Trenohooat Mafia.
Kelly was advised that the above information was
received and she voluncarily prov:ded the following information:

Kelly stated that she is an English teaoher at


Colwnbine High School and Dylan Klebold was her student for a
creative writing cless. She adVised that Klebold wrote a story
for class as part of an assi~~ent given to the students. Kelly
reported that it was well written but very disturbing. She
stated thet she made a copy for the school counselor, Brad Butts
and believes she returned it to Klebold after she graded it. she
is not sure if she kept a copy which would be at the school.
Kelly thought Klebold may have typed it on the school computer
located i~ the Tech Lab. The teacher for the Tech Lab is Rich
Long and the Lab Assistant is Peg~ Dodd.
Kelly stated that the paper did not mention the
Trenchcoat Mafia but remern~ers that it was about a man arriving
in a town with guns who kills the popular type kids. The end of
the story portrays this man or implys tp~t this man is a God like
figure. Kelly seated it was very well written, "literary and
ghastly". She believes it was written in late Februa~J crVearly
March of 1999. Kelly discussed the paper with Klebold stating
its cruel and disturbing. She advised that Klebold replied that
its just a story. She advised him she found it offensive. Kelly
also stated she spoke to Klebold's parents at length about him
handing in a disturbing story. Ke~ly stated that they did not
seem worried and made a comment abcut trying to understand kids
today, Kelly advised that her classroom is LA-8 (Language and
Artsl.

05/04/99 Lakewood, Colorado


174A-DN-57419 05/04/99
SA Elaine X. Lipka. FBI
Sgt. Thomas Conroy. CSP JC-001.0034.41
174A-CN-SJQdEth Kelly OS/04/99 2

Following the interview, Kelly paged SA Lipka to add


that she was not sure if Klebold actually wrote the paper or if
he plagiarized it.
Subsequently, on 05/04/99, SA Lipka and Sgt. Conroy
proceeded to Columbine High School crime scene ~~d located LA-8
classroom. In the classroom, SA Lipka located the paper
described ove in addition to papers written by Eric Harris,
and ~ Upon return to the Command >,ost,
L~pka provided~, in an evidence bag, to Lead
Investigator, Kate Batten, on 05/04/99.
Referenoe Control Number ON 1066.

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Littleton, CO 60123
Ph: 303-795-6520

CONTROL NUMBER: 2700

INVESTIGATION;
On OS-05-99, I met With Lora Kenney at her residence, reference the Columbine shooting, I explained to
Lora that I was there to talk to her regarding the shooting and where she was dUrlng that time, I then
showed Lora a diagram of the cafeteria and asked her to circlewhere she was sitting the day of the
shooting, Lora circled table "NN' and placed an "x" where she was seated, I asked Lora if she could tell me
what happenedthat day, Lora said she was coming from the Language Arts hallway and enteredthe
cafeteria to do her homework, Lora said while she was silting there, the cafeteria became very quiet and
she heard someone tell everyone to gel under the tables, Lora said she then heard Mr, Sanders yell at
everyone to get under the tables and stay there, Lora .ald they stayed under the tables for a sbort time and
th! 1r, Sanders told everyone to run upstairs, Lora said she did run upstairs past the science and math
rooms and left the bUilding through a door at the end of the hallway, She then ran to Leewood Park. I
asked Lora if she heard any shots or explosions, She said that while in the cafeteria she believesshe
heard three shots and when leaving the bUilding, she heard six more shots. I asked if she heard any
explosions and she said not that she recalls. that she was just running and trying to get out of the school. I
askecLora if she had seen any of the shooters and she said, "no", I asked Lora If she remembers seeing
two large duffel bags In the cafeteria and she said "no". I asked her if she remembers seeing anyone
carrying or in possession of two large duffel bags and she again said. "no", I asked tcra if she remembers
seeing Eric or Dylanon Mondayor TueSday and she said "no," she didn't know who they were. I asked
Lora If she had left anything behind in the cafeteria, She said she left her blue Jan Sport backpack. I asked
Lora if she had seen or talked to anyof the Trench Coat Mafia members on Mondayor Tuesday and she
said no, she did not. I asked if shehad heard anything about any othersuspects making bombs or buying
guns and she said "no", I asked what she was wearing that day and she said jeans, a blue tank top w~h a
blue shirt tied around her waist. I asked Lora if she r.ad any furtherInformation, She said she remembers
hearing from someone (She does not know who), that there was another shooterin the school. who was
wearing a white shirt, but she doesn'tknow who said that, and that's alllMat she's heard, I asked Lora if
there was anything else that she can remember and she said no. I gave Lora a business card and asked
her to call me with any further information and she said she would, At thiS time the Interview with Lora was
concluded.

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CONTROL NUMBER: 2701

INVESTIGATION:
On 05/05/99, I met with Jamie Kettlewell at her residence, reference the Columbine sheoting. I explained
that I was there to talk to her about the Sheoting and to find out where she was during the shooting. At this
time I brought out a sketch of the cafeteria and asked her to shew me where shewas seated. Jamie
pointed to an area by the serviceline and said she was standingthere waiting to pay for her meal. I asked
Jamie if she had a backpaCk on at that time and she said no, she'd left everything over next to the wall by
table "I<". I asked Jamie what time she was in the cafeteria and she said approximately 11:20, I asked her
to tell me what had happened that day. She said while she was standing in the service line, a male known
as Chris (LNU), ran into the cafeteria and told everyone to "get down" there was a 'kjd with a gun". Jamie
sa hat she got down under a table and stayed for approXimately 5 minutes. Jamiesaid she then got up
fro." the floor and observed students running up the stairs. Jamie said she ran towards the bathroom area
and heard approximately 5 or 10 students yelling to get out to the auditorium. Jamie said she went into the
auditorium with numerous other stUdents and while In there she remernberec hearing, what she believed to
be. the srcotsrs pounding on the doors trying to get into the auditorium. Jamie said the shooters never
entered the auditorium, that they finally gave up trying to gel In. Jamiesays she remembers a janitor
coming into the auditorium tellingeveryoneto run for the commons area, into the business hallway, and
leave the school. Jamie said that she did run through the commons area and exited the school. I asked
Jamie if she remembers hearing any shootingand she said she believes she heard shooting from the
student senior lot. Jamie said that she heard from someone (she doesn'trememberwhc), that Eric was
standing at the top of the stairwayby the cafeteria. sheoting into the cafeteria. Jamie says she remembers
nmning through the commons area to leave the school and it was full of smoke rlke something was on fire. I
asked If she heard any explosions and she saidthat she did remember hearing an explosion while she was
running to the auditorium. I asked Jamie what happenedwhen she was outside. She said she went toward
the Clement Parll area and met liP with Tiffany 8urlle, whe picked her and other students up in her car and
lefllhe area. Jamie saidthat she believed this to be 'strange'that T'lffany Burlle was at scheol at that time,
because she was not there during scnoel in the momlng hours. I asked if she knewTiffany Burlle and she
said she had met TIffany before, but Tiffany was being a "spokesman" for the 9i11 who bought guns for Eric
and Dylan. and that's the only reason she really knows of her at this time. I asked Jamie if she remembere
seeing Eric or Dylan that day and she said, no, she did not. I asked If she had seen who the shcoters were
that day and she said, no, she had not. I asked her if she remembered saeing two large duffel bags in the
ca 1ria and she said no. I asked If she saw anyone canying or in possession of two large duffel bags and
Sill;, .. gain said. no.
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I asked if she left anything In thecafetena and she said she left a brown Arizona backpack With her school
books. I asked her if she had seen or talked to any of the Trench CoalMafiamembers on Monday or
Tuesday, and she said, "no". I asked her if she hed heard anything reference anyothersuspects, bomb
makers or gun buyersand she said she heard rumors that therewere possibly 6 10 8 shooters and that
there were suspects on the roof shooting, but that's all she'd heard. I asked Jamie what she was wearing
that day and she said jeans and a white shirt. I asked if she could giveany further information on the
Tranch Coat Mafia, and shesaid, no. I asked if she'd been in the cafeteria earlier thatday and she said, no,
she hed not been. Jamie said thatshe does remember someone (can 'I remember who), told her thatthey
obsel'lled a white male, very tall andthin,in the cafeteria with a German swastika on his arm. She said she
may hllVejust overheard someone talking abouthim. I asked Jamie if there was any otherinformation she
could provide 10 help with this Investigation. She said she could notremember anything, but that shewill
call me if she remembers. At this lime I gaveher my business card. Al this lime the interview with Jamie
was concluded.

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COLUMBINE HIGH SCHOOL Docket Number,


Date, 5/6/99 FBI # 174A-DN-57419
CONTROL NUMBER: 2847 Inve2Jtig'&tQr t Vondenkamp

On 5/6/99 I interriewed 15 year old CHS student Carder Kingsbury at.


his home in Littleton, Co. Carder's mother was present for this
interview.

Carder stated he was in the CHS cafeteria for "AU Lunc.h around
11:20am on 4/20/99. He had walked to the cafeteria from Mr Allison's
wood class, near the administration area of the school. He walked
alone and arrived at the cafeteria around 11:20am. He meet up with
Travis Jones and Adam Henohy near rebel corner. They sat at a table
next to the student entrance south of the cafeteria. I showed Carder
a drawing of the cafeteria which depicted all the tables. He said
there are 2-3 tables directly acrosa from the rebel corner store near
the student entrance, which were not noted on the drawing. He placed
an X and circled it, as to where he was seated with his friends. He
recalled another table in this area, with a few CHS students sitting
at it. Carder did not know their names.

He recalled that around 11:3Qam everybody in the cafeteria laid down,


then seood up and began to run towards the steps tllat go upstairs.
Carder stated he did not hear any gunshots, but knew that something
was wrong. He recalled getting on the floor for a couple seconds.
then he immediately ran out the student entrance doors and turned
directly towards the junior parking lot. He and Adam Henchy
continued running and turned right on pierce street. He looked back
one time as he turned on Pierce street, but only saw students running
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towards the school. Carder stated he did not see any gunman, or any
suspicious people wearing trenchcoats inside or outside the building.
He believed the group he was with. was some of the first people out
of the building.

Carder stated he· did not see any large duffle bags anywhere in the
school as he walked towards the cafeteria. He did not see any large
duffle bags in the cafeteria on 4/20/99, or the previous day. He had
no mOre information on the shootings or on the TCM.

Carder left behind a black jansport backpack with books and notebooks
in it. He could not recall what he was wearing that day.

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CONTROL NUMBER 2702

FBICASE NUMBER 4-DN-51419 JEFFERSON COUNTY S.O. NUMBER 99-7625

REPORTING AGENT:
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DENVER, COLORADO 802lS
(303) 2394218

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MICHAEl. EDWARD KISH
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ADDRESS: 1539 WEST FROST DRIVE
Ul'TI.ETON, CO

PHONE (303) 933-1579

MOTHER - DEBRA KISH (303) 298-2251


FATHER - MICHAEL IOSB
WHENINI'ERVlEWED:
MAY 6, 1999 2120 HOURS (9:20 p.m.)

WHERE IN'1'ERVIEWED:
RESIDENCE = 7539 WEST FROST DRIVE, Lll11.ETON,CO

ACTION TAKEN:

On May 6, 1999tile Reportillg Agent LlndaR. HOllOWAY loterViewed 'mdell! Mi'bae' Edward KISB
at hi' residence in Littleton. FIe was askedto 1'Ol"'" wbat he did on April 20, 1999. FIe Staled l!lat he was
pi,1old up at I:Iis bomeby Marl: RADTKE .. 7:05 am. an arrived at theschoolbeweee 7:15 Olld 7:20 a.m.

He went to.thelibrarywhere he played die game "black:jacl<" with Marl< RADTKE, David SMITH, KeVin
HANEY, Ot:llg BARNES and Joel GOULD He then went to his fil:s1ttOu80 fuurtb ped<>d classes as
usual.

He went to !be lij""l!roollu' 11:13 am, acd saU, ta1JI. WWnextto !be uorth_ door. Dutltlglutleb he
..twith1=01y MLu.EN, Marl:RADTKE. TllIIYa WORLOCK. SeOll NASHMAN (sp) Olld possible Matt
W1LSON (he was not sureIf wn.5ON _ there"'MI). He _talking Olld _ g a mogazj""when he
beard gunshots outside tile cafl!lelia. He 1ooked olllSide tile windowsed sawa student shot (perbeps
Shawn ORAYES). He stepped abou, 6 inc!!.' oulSide of tile door. Inten<liug ttl helpthe SOO, student when
be bearda lcud explosion. FIe got upagainst the iosidecafeo:ri. W\lllne"to ee door. FIe board other
guOS.OlS W1d taO Into the kilObea areaOlld r!leo loto tile bathJ:oom udjaeent to tile kilO.... Heobserved
several ath... studenlS sllll1ing ttl t1JI1 up lb. ,tain as be taO intothe kitcbeo.

Ooceinside tile small bathroom, he and theother 'tudenlSturned off tile li80' and put their feet lOgaiost the
locked door. Other ,tudeee in reseeem all!lat time weRt: lmmy MtJl.l.EN, 8ret KASTAAl.NIK (,p,).
Du'tio (unlalownlas, name), Fleteber (Ullknown last tmlllO) andanodlor male ""d female who be couIdll't
ideIltity.

They Sal in Lb. bathroom for about2 beers. After they ba"" been lo there for about;o llout, a !ire _ in
the kitebe. and tile sprioltJers _ 80lng off, He could teU tlla' there were Id<Is Inthe adjacent room.
Whco they felt all was dear, theyran 'Jut of Lbe bathroom and backthrou80 tile kitehen Olld out the

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cafet>:ria door (IlO<1l>_1 door) and to where the police ....... wailing, Ho was iJ'''''V;'l\",d by CBI Agl:1l1
l.alry Browo 0""" be was ""!Side of the school

ae doesnOl """""'bel seeing anything Sll'pici011.1ie largeduffel ba;o or my_ cmying mytbinglie
the largeduffel bog illside the oafeu:l:ia while he .... there. HoaI&o stared that be knows by siglllthe tw<l
........ (Kl.EBOLJ) aad HARRIS) I:towevet, he does 001 _ seeingthemanywhere ill the .lC1:too1
that day.

Wben"'ked _ he left behindthatday, he _ thathe left. purple Xero. bmudexpandable file under
lllble WW, on thoneor, Howas weoring a gray cOl'dlmly sbortll,' wlllt< tee.bin with SW1ley Cup
Champo written00 the !Toll! and • B1OIl<O orange baseball cap. Hedid norhalle a backpack that day,

Hohad _ from stude'" loolBOULD that wb<m he .... lUlllling from1ho O<hool, he sawthrooldda bop
ill a jeep by thefront eceaace, oear the toa<:bol'.pamng loc

Wben asl<e<l abo'" his knowledge of the Intemet, he _ that he ""'"' tho _ at ",hoollllld at friend's
homos. His sereea ...". i. "BLADE" or "CASH". Ho hao oollCQnumber. He does nolknow""",..
with • double pierced eyebww.

Wh01l asked if be " ' ' ' ' ' ' _ seeing01hearing the Thouglll of thoDay,he recalledthathe mayhavehoen
"TODAY IS NOTA GOOD DAY TO BE HERE-4-20,"

Theonly othorcomment behad .... that he fell that the '',jo<:Jc$'' pick00 other poople at the sebect. !Ie did
DOl remember llll)'lbing else of siJDifi=e,

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4(29(99
On 4(27(99, Jamie Klement, OOB 9(25(83, 7590 West
Caley Dr,ve, Littleton, Colorado 80123, was advised of the
identity of the interviewing Agent, and the nature and purpose of
the interview. She was interviewed in the presenoe of her MOther
and Father, James Klement, 008 6(3(43, an Sandra Klement, DOB
12(19(47. She prOVided the following information.
On 4(20(99, Jam,e Klement went to school at normal
time, approximately 7:00 a.m. She went to all of her classes to
inclUde her science class which ended approximately 11:10 a.m.
She then walked with her friend, Lindsey Greer to Lindsey's math
class. Jamie then met her other friend Kim Andersen, and they
both walked to the cafeteria for llli~ch. They were s'tting at
table ZZ_ Other students sitting at the table included:
1. Lori Reynolds
2. Elizabeth ~oland
3, Lauren Maestis
4. Kristen Cardwell
5. Kim Andersen
Jamie went to the lunch line to purchaSe some food, and
was on the line with Kristen Cardwell talking and waiting. They
noticed that a boy possibly named Mark Opfer ran into the west
door of the cafeteria, but didn't say anything. He ran past the
janitcr, and then was lost in the crowd. Students were standing
up and looking out the windcws on the west side. Jamie then saw
someone fall next to the w~ndow outside. A second person then
fell, and a pop which may have been a gun shot was heard. An
object flew past the w,ndow, and two more shotS Or pops Were
heard. Bo Berry, and Tyrone LNU ran out the doors towards the
parking lot, where smoke was Observed. Chris Marcum and a
janitor then ran in the cafeteria and began warning everyone to
get down, because there was someone with a gun. At about the
same time, Mr. Sanders also ran in and warned everyone to get
down_ More shots were heard, and Kristen and Jamie crawled next
to the area of the elevators near the kitchen. Jam~e heard metal
pinging over top of their heads. Mr. Andres Jr. then carne in and
told the students to get inside the auditorium. Andres wanted
the students to stay in the auditorium. A large group of
students disregarded this request and ran down the hallway on the

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west side near the gym and exited the building. They then ran
Out across Pierce I and then back to Clement Park. A few minutes
later, some more students ran to the park from the school, and
said "run, they are coming'. They ran farther into the park, and
then Jam~e, Kristen, and Kristine Bell went to Bell's house.
Jamie didn't know Klebold, and only knew Harris from
seeing him around school. She had said hello to Karris in the
hallway, but that was the extent of it. she did not observe
Klebold or Harris on either Monday or Tuesday. She really didn't
know who was in the Trench Coat Mafia ITeM}, but was warn;>d the
previous year ,n middle school to stay away from the TCM in
Columbine Kigh School. Jamie had seen TCM types around school,
but did not know any of them.
Jamie Klement did remember something that caught her
attention during the student morning news broadcast. The thought
for the day stated something to the effect of 'You'll wish that
you weren't here today.
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WITNESSES,

BRANDY NICOLE KLINGBEIL, DOBI04-04-84


3194South Dudley Street
Lakewood. Colorado S0227
(303) 948-6774
Student; Columbine HighSchool

OOUG KLINGBEIL. OOBI12·02·62


Same as above
Bus: PoserDenver Farms
(303)761-2314

VALERlE KLINGBEIL. 008105·25·63


Same as above
Bus: R·l School District/Bus Driver
Unknown phone number

INVESTIGATION:

On 05-24-99, at about 1030 bcnrs, I responded to 9147 West Cross Drive, Building 10. #102, to attemptto contact witness
Brandy Klingbeil. Upon arrival at that location, I was advised thatwitness Brandy Klingbeil and her family no longer resided
.t that location. I wentto the manager's office for thiscomplex andwastoldtheKlingbeil family hadrecently moved to 3194
South Dudley Street. I responded to 3194South Dudley Street to contact and interview Brandy Klingbeil. who was a student
'1 Columbine High School. Thisinterview was in reference to the shooting !hat occurred on 4-20·99 at Columbine High School.

At approximately 1100 hourson 5-24-99, I contacted Brandy Klingbeil. who told me that neitherher father, witness Doug

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Klingbeil, or mother,wuness Valerie Klingbeil, were currently at home. Brandy Klingbeil said she would not be able to contact
them. but said they would allow me to interview her about this incident withoutthem being present.

BrandyKlingbeil saidon 4-20·99, at about 1150hours(she believed, but was not certain ofme time) she wont intothecafetena
at ColumbineHigh School and was carrying her backpack(whichshe describedas a blue Janspcrt with her name on it). She
saidshe selecteda cafeteria table to 'it at. On the diagram of tho Columbine HighSchool cafeteria, Brandyidentifiedtable "S"
as the one ,be selected. Brandysaid 'he saeat this rable facing in a northeasterlydirection towards the stairway that leads to the
second level of Columbine High School. Brandy said she was with AmberRosetta, Malt Bruc•• Matt Hill. and Ben Schuman.
She also identified where these students were Silting at the table on the diagram.

Brandy Klingbeil said that Ben Schuman went to the RebelComer at tho cafeteria. and when he returned to the table he said
either he saw someone woo had been shot or he saw someone get shot. Brandy Klingbeil said at this time a janitor told the
studentsin the cafeteria to get down 00 the floor and underneath the tables. Brandy said the students at her table got underthe
tablesand remainedthere for approximately one minute. Brandy said she heard other people screaming '0 she got up and ran
up the stairway to the second level of ColumbineHigh Schoolwith other students. Whenshe got to the top of the stairs Brandy
said she heard three shoes that sounded to her like they werecomingfrom the cafeteriadownstairs. She said when she got to the
top of the stairsshe turnedto the right. but did not go pastthe library, instead madea fast left turn and went downa hallway. then
exited the school throughthe doors by the math classrooms. She said when she had turned right at the top of the stairs and then
turned left quicklyshe did not notice anythingunusual or hear anything unusual that she could recall in the area of the library.
Brandy 'aid once she exited the school, she ran across South PierceStreet and into Leawood Pari" She said she was running
withseveralotherstudentsand when one ofthesestudents said theywere going10runto one of their housesin the Leawood area,
Brnndy said she asked if she could go along with them.eventhough she did not knowwho these students were. She said shewas
told 'he could go with them.

Brandy Klingbeil said on 4-20-99 she was wearing blue jean shortsand a Columbine High School warm up jacket for soccer.
Thisjacket is blue with red and white stripes on the sleevesand has a Rebel Insignia on the back of it.

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I showed Brandy Klingbeil photographsof the dufflebags and me propaae tank that were later recovered in the cafeteria. She
said she did not recall seeing either ctthese itemsprior to or during the incident She also said she does not know of anybody
wbe may he manufacturing explosive devices and/orpossess firearms, She said she will contact me if she hears of anything like
this in the future.

Brandy Klingbeil said she does not know Dylan Klebeld or Eric Harris, She said she did not know any of the "TrenchCoat
Malia" studentsor their names. Brandy said she knewof the "TrenchCoat Malia" and had seen tbem walking up the sidewalk
at Coturnbme High School while she was at soccer practice, She believes she saw three of rbem walking together She saidshe

did not see anyoneharassing the "Trench Coat Malia" students, nor did she set the"Trench Coat Mafia" studentsharassing an;
other people,

Brandy Klingbeil said she did not know anybody with. double pierced eyebrow, She said she is aware that the Columbine High
SchoolRebel News Network (RNNl has • thought of the day atter the announcements in the mornings,however. she said she
does not pay attention to them. She did not know what the thoughtof the day was on 4-20·99,

BrandyKlingbeil said she has been doing fine dealing with this incident since it occurredon 4..20·99. however. ! left business
cardsfor her and her parents and told her to contactme if any of themwanted to talk to a JCSO VictimAdvocate in tho future.
I advised her I would make the necessary arrangements for them,

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LacyKoch. Doe: 05/021'83. 8210 West CalhounDrive, Littleron, Colorado, was


interviewed regarding her presence in the cafeteria during the shooting.

Kochwas in the serving line getting lunch. She sat her tray down on a table. A
littlekid ran by her. yelling that there was a guy with a gun. She stated no one took him serious.
Mr, Sanders and Mr. K.reitler then entered the cafeteria and yelled for everyone to get under
rabies. Koch then heard 6 or 7 pops from outside. She thought they sounded different than
gunshots, bur notexplosions. She then heard louder shots in the cafeteria. She ran to the
stairway whichleads upstairs to the libraryand auditorium. She ran up the stairs, turned to the
left, and ran to the East exit of the scacot, She then joined other students and teacners at
Leawood park on the East side of PierceStreet

During her time in the park she overheardrumors that there had been a bomb
threat earlier in the morning. She said a group of teacherswere in the park, nearan ambulance.
Ae one point she thought Mr. Moore. a black teacher. was being' shoe at from somewhere. She
said Mr. Mooreappeared to be movingaround to dodge fire.

Koch did notsee the suspects and could not provideany information on them.
She only saw people falling down outside the cafeteriaand stated she tripped on severalpeople
whowere falling whilerunning from the school.

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KOCH, LACY J., DOBIOS·02·83. WfF


8210West CalhounDrive
Littleton. CO 80123
(303)973·7880
Bus: Student: ColumbineH.S.lSophomoro

RICE. BARBARA L DOB/02·03-53, WIF (Lacy's aunt)


16668 Y Street
Omaha. NE 68135
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Bus: Sam. as above

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KOCH. MARYANN, ooBI12·14-49, WfF
8Z lOWes;Calhoun Drive
Littleton. CO 80123
(303) 973-7880
Bus; None

INVESTIGATION'

On May 4, 1999. between the hours of 1048 and 1142. I had anopportunity to speak with Lacy in reference to the incident that

occurred at Columbine HighSchool on April 20.1999. Alsopresentduring' the interview was Lacy's aunt, Barbara Rice.

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hour class at 1110hours, she proceeded down in,o tile cafeteriafor lunch.arrivingaround 1113 hours. Lacy stated that she did
not observeanythingout of the ordinarywhile she was walkingto thecafeteriaarea. Lacy was provided a map of the cafeteria
area and asked ifsha could tell me whichtableshe was searedat, Lacystated she was seated at tableT with he' friends, Kristen
Schoenhoffand Jennie Smith. Lacy stated after plJldng her green backpack on a chair at the table she proceeded to the rest
rooms,which are locatednear the kitchen area or near the lower entry doors into the auditorium. After leaving the rest room,
Lacyproceeded to the food serviceline.where she got her lunch, As Lacyturned and walked towards the condiment table, which
is neat the food service line. she stated that she recalled that an unidentified student, who she believes was 3 freshman. carne
running from tile vendingmachines, which ate nearthe northwest doer of the cafeteria. and the studentwas yelling,"Oh myGod.
get down,there's somebody outsidewith a gun:' Again. LacySlated that she did not know whothis individual was. She recalls

that shortlyafter this person entered into the schoolshe rememhers seeing Mr. Sandersand Mr. Kritzercome out of the faculty
loungeand they were also telling students to get under their table.

Lacy explained thet she crouched down and that sne remembers seeing her best friend. Sara Anderson~ Tina Chavet:;nd
Samantha Roman"also crouched under tbe tabte1 at which time she heard anywhere from six to seven gunshots, or as she
describedthey sounded like firecrackers popping outside. and she could see people outside running in all different directions,
As thisoccurred the studentswho were near the west side of tht cafeteriastartedmovingcast and continuedup the stairs to the
mainlevelin the school. Lacyadvisedthet she followed the other students, headingout of the cafeteria, and remembers thatonce
she reachedthe top of tilestairs she remembers hearinggunshots and they werecoming from thecafereriaarea. Lacy explained
there wasa largegroupof students that had fallen in the ball.just to the east of the staircase, and that she had to maneuver around
them. She continuedeast down the math/science hallwayto the southeastexit of the school,whereshe ran from tile schooland
went to LeawoodPark, From Leawood Pat!<, Lacy staredthat she wentto Jcsh Brinkley's house, but they wereunableto get into
his residence because he had forgottenhts keys in the school, at which time they contacted one of Josh's neighbors and were
allowed to stay f-or a brief period of time.

Lacy wasasked while she was in the cafeteriaarea if she observedtwo largedume hagsor sports bags. one being blue in color.
tnd the other hemg reddish/orange color. [explained to her that they were in the central core area of the cafeteria. Lacycould

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not provide any information abou. the bags. telling me !.bat slledid not see them. Lacywasasked If she observed any gunmen
while in Columbine Higlt S<hool or if she observed any gunmen .ftc< she had e.ited. She slated she did not,

Lacy wasasked if there had been any rumors of something that"'as going to occuron Apri1200t. Slle stallld thatshe know April
20thwas :-Iational weed or marijuana day. and she also explained thaton themorning of April 20th she remembers hearing 'bou'
a bomb threat.

Lacywas asked Ifshe members of the TrenchCoer Mafia, spet:ificaUy Eric Harris or Dylan Klebold or any of theirassociates.
Shestatedshe didn't personally know any of them, and th.. shedidn', kmw any of the associares, butshedidm..cion th• •
asapparently on a hi' list thatEric Harris and Dylan Klebctd had. Lacy wasasked to describe her dress
on theday of the incident in question, Shestaredthat she was wearing a longsleeve. green Gap shirt. Underneath th.. 'hilt was
, whitetank top. black pants. and black sandals, Lacy described her backpack as beinggreen in color and thebrand name was
"Nike,"

A the oempleli"" of my interview l had Lacy diagram where she wasseated within the cafeteria area and her m<>vemen. through
the cafeteria. A copy of d'lat map is provided with this supplemcnW report.

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MINIMAL QUESTIONS TO BE ASKED

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I. Did you ever see the two largeduffel bags in the cafeteria? ,I/o - : ; : ""A1 1.<,) 7'Hi£ j<',7t.H4.I.I- "AJ
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3. Did you seeEric HJlIris or Dylan Klebold either onMonday ofTuesday? Whatwere tbey doing?
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8. Wbat _ you........u.g? Did you havea b1lckpack ? Wbat did It look lllao and I orhave in it?
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12. Can you provideany further lnfom>lltiotl on the members of the Trench Coat Mafia ?
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13. Askthe parentsif tlle kids have told them anything else? Difl'ere0l?

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Denver Pollee Department

Metro GangTask Fare.

Date: 04-29·99
To: The Jefferson County DistrictAttorneyOffice
From: DetectiveTerry Dernmel 78007· Assigned With The Columbine taw
Enforcement Task Force

Supplementary Report

Ref: Interviewwith ColumbineTeacher Erie Kritzerby phone at [303l 948·2450

On 04·29·99 at 2:20 P M. Denver Police Detective Terry Demmel,assigned with the


Columbine Law Enforcement Task force. interviewed Columbine High Schoo! teacher
Eric Kritzer by phone. Det, Dernmel asked Eric if he had Eric Hams in his }', hour
Philosophy Class to which Mr. Kritzer answered" yes; he did ", When asked if Harris
was in class that day, Tuesday the 20", Mr. Kritzerstatedthat he didn't believe so but
that he could possibly have been. Der, Demmel told Mr. Kritzer that student Vannessa
Grimeshad been interviewed and reportedthat both Eric Harris and~
been in class with her that day and had discussed Chinese Philosopy~did not
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think that in class that day either. He slated that the class did not
haveany ~ day but instead had a written test on Chinese Philosophy. Mr.
Kritzer added that the one sure way to tell if the boys had been in class that day was to
check the folderof lest papers that was in the room.

in asking Mr. Kritzer if Eric Harris had made any statements or given any indication of behavior out of
the norm he answered that Harris was a good studentand that he would have to check his grade book to
see where Hams stood as far as his grade was concerned.

Mr. Harris advised to get in touch with his 3'" hourclass student assistant, Rebecca Hines; thatshe may
be able to give some additional information on Eric Harris.

On 04-30·99 Det, Demmel spoke with Jefferson County SheriffsOffice Columbine HighSchool Scene
Commander Chris Andres advisinghim of the information. A short time later JeffersonCo. Sheriffs
Commander Andres called Del. Dernmel back with the information that they had goneto Mr. Kritzers
3'· hour Philosophyroom and found the folderof test papers. He stated that both Vannessa Grimes and
~ad taken the written test but that there was no test paper for Eric Harris.

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do flOt fTltJintaifl that it contains aJl of the fJlCts or detaJIs of the incid6tl1. but onIV those facts .bout which I h_ be811
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do not mlJlntltin thet it con""" all of the fllCts Of detm of the incident, but only those fllCt8 . _ which I have been
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Agent l..arry A. Brown. Colorad<> B"""", of Investigation, 690 Kipling St..Suiee<WOO, D<n_. CO,
802125. phone(303) 239421l

DATEITLM:f ofLNTERV1EW: lnitiaJ. interview, April20, 1999, beweee 12:30 p.m, and 2 pJll.
Follow up leue!'View, April 'J:7, 1999.5:00 p,rn.

PLACE of INTERVIEW' Initial interview, near ColUlllbino HighScbcol on Caley Cl'. l.JttJeloo. Co
Follow up iarerview, telephonic to his residence

DlSPosmON, INTERVlEW TIlE l'OLLOWlNQ:


Daniet LAB, DOB:01·26-83. 8183 W, PlymouthPL. Littleton, CO, 80128. phone(303) 971!-9423

LAB ,..<ed be was to SC3ted 1Il tile rnid<lle of <be co""""n, wbeo be _ 'hOll! fu.a from outside, LAB
said he raeintoanoffice located in thekitchen. Approximately 18 people were biding in me office aec
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""",go ba<kpacks 1Il tile commccs eea. L\ll also ......t be did oct see the suspectedshooters.

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TEAi'" FOUR lNTEll:VIEW GUIDELINE
MINIMAL QUESTIONS TO BE ASKED
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Narrative:

Inlerview with Michael Longhenry


7200 S. Websterst,
978-1395

Longhenry stales that he was Sitting at the bench In the bottom of the stalrs in the commons area
ind that he saw no unusual persons or Items In the cafeteria area.
He states that he saw an explosion outside and than he ran into the audiroium and then heard an
~xploslon in the gym hallway and then ran Into Leawood Pm.

Longhenry did not see any shooters and was unable to provide any further Information and the
nterview was conclUded.

Unit

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