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February 13,2139 hours. Ilterview with ofEcer (Nikos) Kasfiniler. I am


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Detective Johruon.

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I'mHerry Stem. S-T-E-R-N.


And I'm Offi.cer Q'liko$ Kastniler, That's K-A-S-T-M-I-L-E-R' Badge
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Thsnkyou. Uh, state yourrank Officer Kastmiier?


I'm a Police Officer with Berkley. Police.
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Well, I - it was uh, sometime in Decembet of 2007. I don't remember the


date exactly.

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Do you have any prior law enforcement o- experience pri- uh BPD?


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Which patrol operations team do you work?


LIh, Team 4.

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The uh, normal days are Monday through Thursday. The hours are 8:30 p'm. to 6:30

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Okay. When I say yesterday, that merns, uh, February 12th, Tuesday okay?
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Curently, it is February 13th, uh, Wednesday, okay?


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$o what was your call sign during yesterday's

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Itwas uh 4Adam7.
And uh, wtrat area or beat were you assigned to during yesterday's shift?
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shift,I was beat 7 which is uh, South Campus are4 Berkley.

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Who were your supervisors druing yesterday's shift and during yestbrday's incident? Uh, Sergeant Phillips and Huynh'

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Okay. Phitlips is P-H-I-L-L-I-P-S and Huynh is H-U-Y-N-H and I meant to for elarification, who are your supervisors. Not supervisor's on scene but supervisors and you're still Phillips and Huynh?
Yeah, mY Team suPervisots, Yes.

And they are your normal supervisors?


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Utq when was the last shift you worked prior to yesterday's shift?
So yesterday being Tuesday night, the uh, shift that I worked

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Do you hold any other secondaryjobs? No.

Did you work any overtime prior to yesterday's shift?


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Have you any

have you taken any medication, prescription or otherwise?

Any prescription medications?

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But that's the onlY one. Uh, have you consumed any alcohol in the past 24 hours? No.

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All right, Do you have any medical conditions?


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And you reported to work Tuesday at 8:30 in the evening?


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Okay. Did you sustain any injuries during yesterday's incident?


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wear- which one do you wear &uing shift?

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Uh, I nonnally wear uh, contact lenses.


Contact lenses.
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and you wore contact lenses yosterday?

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Okay, going clockwise. Uh, from the belt buckle, it's uh, two magazines, then ,h, next thi*g uto, smith & wesson .40 caliber deparhent issued and then next on that ii a set of handcuffs. Next from ttrat is another set of handcuffs followed by a belt flash light. A radio from the departnent. A collapsible baton. OC Peppers spray and uh, key pouch.

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Did your duty belt or duty gear sustain any damage from yesterday's incident?

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What vehicle make and model were you driving? What's the vehicle number?

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a Ford Crown

Victoria, uh, vehicle 1735.


and emergency equipment is onthis vehicle?

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It's uh, marked black aild white. AIso overhead police uh, lights marked with Berkley Police Departnent on it.
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Do younormally drive this particular vehicle?


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Uh

were you a single officer or a paired officer car?

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Okay and uh, it's in front of you. Could you uh, read it for us verbafim?

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Sure. On 02/13t13 at approximately 0030 hours; I heard Officer Brown say over the radio to "send epergency cover." I responded to 2116 (Alston) Way, #514 to assist. I arrived on scene and entered the apartment. I observed uuiry large male, later iderrtified as (Moore) laying face down on top ofa mattress with officers struggling to control him. Officet Two, Badge #38, Officer Brown, Badge #16 and Officer B. Smitb number three, were controlling (Mooie);s arms and legs as he stuggled to break free from their
(ltdoore) was handcuffed and I assisted in contmlling (Moore)'s arms and preventing him from getting up. I remained v'/ith (Moore) - sorry, excuse me * while *uiting for BPD offtcer to bring a lvrap device for (Moore). Whiie

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disc.overed this, we immediately removed (Moore)'s hand;trs and taid him flat on his back. we began doing cPR on (Moore) until BFD arrived on scene, begau emergency teatment.' I remained o[ scene and contacted (Sterling). (Sterline) was inside the aparhnent wittr BPD officerc and (ltioorei dwing the initial incident. (Sterling) provided a witten statement about the incident. See attached written statement. had a puise. When

we were deployurg the wrap, (Moore) stopped struggling. we rolled (Moore) (Moore) on to his bft side. About a minute later, Offrcer (Brown) stated that, had stopped breathing. We checked for a pulse and noticed that he no longer

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correct?

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And you said, g[ according to the police report, that the radio taffrc said ,o*.thiog to the effect of send emergency cover and that was made by Offrcer Brown?
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Okay. Where were you

w'here were you when you heard this radio traffic?

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I don't remember where exactly I was. I was somewhefe on Beat 7 area' Um, somewhere on my normal !eat. I don't remember exacfly though'

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Okay. And youresponded uh, in what fashion? Which code?


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okay., And when you arrived uh

uh, how did you enter the building?

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The uh, building was already propped open by a door. Um, I basically arrivgd on scene the same time as Officer (U"ttiO and (Gardner) and uh, the tluee of us, took the elevator together.

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Okay. When you anived, uh, at apartment 514, um, was the door closed or
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Open.

Okay. Um, when you yotuself entered aparhnent 514, what was tlre first thing
you observed? Uh, we observed a very large male uh, laying on what looked like a matfess io the comer of the aparhnent. Utr" he was layrng on his stomach and uh, "fr, (Smith). there was three officers in there. Officer (Brown), (Two) and Officer Um, it was apparent that they were strugglihg to confiol him and that he was

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So when you said you tried to control his arms, were you grab - were Okay. -tying to contol both arms or - or did you have a particular arm you were you tyrng to control?

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Uh was it one set, two sets, three sets? Do you recall how many sets Wero

linking his arms together?

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I don't remember how many cuffs were used. Okay. But even though he was handcuffed, you described him still actively resisting, is that correct?
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Okay, like when you were saying that he tried to get - was he trying to - what - describe a little bit more in detail what he was doing as he was resisting even ihough he was in handcuffs. He um, I remember his legs were flailing around and he was trf ing to kick uh, offieers offof his legs. He was trying to basically stand back up it seemed like.
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I was holding his two um, arms and uh, I was also using my shin and knee on the back of his left leg to keep them stationary on the - on the mattress.

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doing. We were all trying to basically prevent him from getting up qnd continuing the fight. I dontt remember specifically what he was doing though.
Okay, do you remember his positioning? What Mr. (Moore).-. He was standing uh, opposite me and so if (Moore)'s laying on the ground,I was closest to his left side. Offrce (Two) was um, on his right side.

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I'm sorry. While he's uh, stomach down on the uh, mattress.
Okay. Where was Officer (Brown)?

officer (Brown) was.to the left of me, urr, closer towards the upper portion of
hisbody.
What about Officer (Smith)?

Officer (Smith) was to the right of me


body.
To the right side or

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left side?

Left side is what I remember, Left side? Okay.


To my right, but

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the left side of (&Ioore)'s body.

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(Moore) was he was grabbing ontc?
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Okay. Uh, I forgot to ask, what about um, Officer (Brown)?

No,I don't.
Okay. [Jh, do you recall any oilrer officers arriving to it Officer (Mathis) doing? Do you recall? I believe he was tying to control (Moore)'s legs. Um...
Okay, what about Offlrcer (Gardner)?

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I believe he was also hying to do the same thing, Okuy. All right. Um, at this point did any other officer anive to assist in addition - excluding the room. You guys are already there. Do you know who else anived at all?
I - I know uh, Sergeant (Phillips) and Sergeant (Cardoza) um, arrived shortly after but any other officers, I'm - I'm not aware of.

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Okay. So after the handcuffs are placed and was there a - well - do - do you know, was it successful, Officer (Mathis) in restraining um, his legs? Mr. (Moore)'s legs?
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Uh durine - during this portion while you were present gd Mr. uh,
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He wasn't yelling at aily point? At that time, he was quiet when uh but he was physically resisting but at that time he wasnlt yelling anything? Correct. When youwere there? Okay, got it, Um - um, let's see. Did you, at all hear IVIr. (Moore) uh, while you were there with him ver- verbalize and say, I could - he - that he couldn't breathe or that he needed medical attention or that he
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Okay. Now, did you at all see any offtcer, to your recollection, uh, putting pressure on Mr. (Moore)'s head or neck?
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Okay. He was already on his side.


When ,ive wefe trying to figUre out horv to deploy the wrap because he's a larger individual uh.., Okay

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To your ree- best recollection, how do you describe uh, Mr. (Moore)'s height
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Okay. Um, did uh, during the brief rnoment where uh,'Mr. (Moore) was still
struggling, did you hear any off,rcers commanding - making any verbal commands to uh, to Mr. (Moore) in any way? Telling him * giving him orders to calm down? Giving him orders to Stay still? What - whatever you can recollect.

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I do remember somebody saying to uh, calm down and stop resisting. I don't remember who exactly said that, but remember hearing that.
So he was placed on his side you said, correct?

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Do you renrember which side, left or right?

Left side.

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Leftside. Andatthispoint,he'scalm. He'snotresistinganymore?


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so he's now calm and you mentioned early on in your interview that he started having uh, difficulty breathing, is that correct?

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Okay, well how long was that time span berween the time he went calm to the time he started having diffrculty breathing? I estimate it at maybe a minute or so.

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Okay. And uh, did you yoruself notioe that he was having difficulty or did somebody - some offi.cer say something that prompted you to uh, notice as well?
No, well officer (Brown) said uh, I - something uh, to the effect of, "I think he's not breathing." At that point, I wasn't aware and uh, I tried to c,onfirm
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Tried to confirm that he wasn't
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Okay and you when - you wanted to ky to check to confirm, what were you doing to confirm if he wasn't breathing or not? Uh, I - i put my hand kind of on his - his stomach to - well, stomach, chest area to see if I could feel breath coming out or his chest rising...

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I hied to c.heck for his pulse. ,Um, I wasn't really able to because he was stilt in handcuffs. I was trying to but I couidn't feel for any pulse and I wasn't sure if &at was because um, the handcuffs were interfering with it or just that he didnlt have a pulse. Okay. Um, so when uh, that occurrd, what - what occr:rred next when when you guys uh, realized he was not breathing?

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When we realized he wasn't breathing uh, and that he n6 lsnger had a pulse, we immediately took offhis - his handcuffs and uh, rolled him onto the floor,

flatonhisback.

What part did you take in the un- in - in the removal of the handcuffs and roliing him onto his back? Do you recall?

Uh, I believe I was holding onto one of his wrists m&ing sure that um, ifhe was awake and - or if he did wake up, tllat he was not going to actively resist again and continue frghting so I believe I was controlling one of his wrists while we were taking the cuffs off.

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Okay. Do you recall which officer re- released the cuffs from the wrists? I don'L
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But I do remember hearing over the radio, somebody requesting paramedics.


Okay. I believe that wag actually the initial pornt when he stopped uh, breathing. When we noticed that he was no longer breathing and had no pulse. Okay.
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Afld uh, eventually - while you were stilt inside the apartrnent when the uh, paramedics anive4 correct?
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because he was no longer handcuffed.

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okay. And you kept doing that until the paramedics auived?
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Okay. When the paramedics arrived, did you release back off?
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okay. And uh, paramedics came, kept working on Mr. (Moore) and eventually Mr. (Moore) was taken out of the aparhnent?
Yes.

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Okay. Once Mr. (Moore) was taken out of the apartment, well what did.what did you do thereafter, once Mr. (Moore) was nowout of the aparhnent and in en route to the hospital? I u[ contacted um, Jv[r. (Sterling) outside the uh apartment and obtaiued a written statement from him.
Before uh, taking the statement from Mr. Sterling, did you know who he was
and why you were laking a staternent from him?

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No, not initially. Uh, Officer (Cardoza) - I'm sorryr, Sergeant (Cardoza), told me that um, Mr. (Sterling) was a witness and inside the uh, building prior to

police arival but I was not awme of that until I had spoken to him.

Okay. And then you - andthen youtook a uh, statement from Mr. (Sterling),
correct?
Yes.
So you hand wrote the statement uh, and uh, I\dr. (Sterling) signed

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and facfual, correct? Yes.

Okay. After you * the Statement you took from Mr, (Ster)- whore was the statement taken - where that location was?
Uh, it was still in the apartment building.

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thefiffhfloor, kindofneartheelevator.
Okay. After you completed the statement from Mr. (Sterling), what did you doaftenvards?
I-lh, afterwards, um, I hetped Officer (Mathis) uh, lock up the uh, aparfment. Mr. (Sterling) had some belongings inside the apartment that he needed to

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U[ clothing and also his wallet so we allowed him to grab that before securing the apartment.
retrieve. Okay. And who's keys did you guys use to secure the apartment? I believe it was uh, M-r. (Hayes), (John Hayes).
How do you know Mr. (Hayes) ?
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I leamed about him from (Sterling) during the statement.

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Um, yeah.

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Okay. And after you uh, helped uh, secure the apartnent, what did you do afterwards - after that?
Uh, I'd went back to the police station to start miting supplemental report.

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Okay. Couple more questions. One is, when you received tlre tadio broadcawhen you got promptedto go based on radio broadcast and when you went upstairs and you started assisting in ub, contuolling Mr. (L4oore), did you know al the time, wtry Officer were - why Mr. (Moore) was in handeuffs?
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Okay. Um, uh, while you were there while IvIr. (Moore) was in handcuffs and uh and all the - all divisions you told us already, did you at any point see any of the officers, including yourself stike Mr. (Moore) with uh, open hand or closed-closed fist?
No. Do you see any offiber deploy uh, OC?

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uh, strike Mr. (Moore) with the baton?

Did you see any officer strike with any type of blunt object?
No.

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Did anybody discharge their firearm?

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Did anybody use their uh, duty pistol to stuike Mr. (Moore) with?
No. Um, ttre - including - in addition to the officers you mentioned, how many which sergeants do you recall seeing on scene or in or around the property at the time of the incident?
Sergeant uh, (Phillips) and Sergeant (Cordoza),

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Okay. Did you recall seeing any other sergeant right before that?
No.

Okay. Did you see any other rank officer other than sergeant or officer tlere
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I don't actually.

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I have a few. Did anybody, including yourself, kick Mr. (Moore)?


No.

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All right. Do you use uh, I'm reviewing yow supplemental report, okay. All right.. You used the pkase in the second line, "Laying face down." Uh, do you mean that literally, Mr. (Moore)'s face was in the mattress or can you clariffthat. No. It didn't
appear his face was actually on the mattress. When I say face

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but to my recollection, there wasi a gap in between &e mattress and the wall and uh, I don't believe his face was actually directly pressed into the mathess. Cordd he I know you don't know whetherhe could breathe bw he - he appeared to have the ability to breathe based on his position that you

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Do you ever have any prior encounters with Mr. (Xavier Moore)?
Yes. Can you describe them?

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Yes. I um, I had some contacts'with uh, (Xavier Moore) whenhe used to live University Hotel on uh, University Avenue when I worked at Beat 3. Um, during those incidences, there was ub disturbances and also fights involving himself and uh, other tenants. urn, there was also disturbance calls relating with him and uh^duggerse-um, specifieallycrask{'socaiil. *Llh, disputes regarding that
at the uh,

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Did you everhave the opporturity to speak to oae of his relatives about Mr, fXavter Moore)?
Yes,

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I spoke to his mother.

What was the nature of that conversation

if you iecall?

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I don't have any other questions


Me either. Uh, you have anything else you want to add? No.

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Okay. It's 2205 hours. 2205 hours. End of interview with Officer Kastmiler.

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