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au/podcasts/john-de-martini/ Click to play or right click here to download. INTERVIEW WITH DR. JOHN DEMARTINI, transcript of the show. JOHN PETROZZI: Hi. Welcome to Living Is Easy. I’m John Petrozzi. Today, I’m speaking to worldrenowned best-selling author and human behavioural specialist, Dr. John Demartini. Dr. Demartini is best known for his inspiring lectures, books, and other teaching materials revolving around the topic of boosting human performance and finding internal human driver for success. He has recently published a book called “From Stress to Success.” We’re very happy to have him back on our show. Hi, Dr. Demartini. Thanks for spending time with us today. DR. JOHN DEMARTINI: Well, thank you for having me again. JOHN PETROZZI: It’s been about a year since we’ve last spoken here. Can you tell us what has changed for you over the last year, what have you really been up to, and what’s going on for you at the moment? DR. JOHN DEMARTINI: Oh, gosh. Well, what I love doing is I research every day, I write every day, I get to travel most every day, and I get to speak and teach every day. Those are the four things I love doing most and I continue to do that. I’ve been blest to come out with some other books and travel more and teach more and reach more people. That’s what I basically do every day. JOHN PETROZZI: Great. Lots of people have either read books written by you or actually seen the movie “The Secret.” Can you give us a bit more of an understanding or a brief description or outline of what the Law of Attraction is? DR. JOHN DEMARTINI: Well, I like to think of Law of Attraction as if you don’t plant flowers in the garden of your mind, you’ll forever pull weeds. Once you concentrate your mind on what you really truly are inspired by, what’s really most meaningful to you, and focus on that and work towards that, you increase the probability of seeing opportunities, acting on opportunities, and attracting opportunities in your life to help fulfil those. So we really attract into our lives what we concentrate on and what we’re inspired by. JOHN PETROZZI: So essentially, it’s setting goals. DR. JOHN DEMARTINI: Well, it’s setting goals, but the key is setting goals that are truly meaningful, ones that are really high on your values and congruent with who you really are. Because of that, you will tend to see all the things around you that synchronously help you get that, you’ll take advantage of that, and you’ll increase the probability of it. JOHN PETROZZI: Okay. I remember Zig Ziglar used to speak about goal setting, that if you don’t set goals you really don’t have any direction to a certain destination. The book you’ve written, “From Stress to Success,” can you give us a bit of background as to really what it’s about? DR. JOHN DEMARTINI: Well, just what you started with. What it is are 31 excerpts – small three-, four-, five-page summaries of a principle – so that means there are 31 principles in the book. Each one is anywhere from three to five pages, where you just sit and concentrate on that per day. With that each day, you focus on doing that one action for 31 days. At the end of the 31 days, you start over on them and there’s a checklist to make sure you keep doing them. The first one in there is making sure that you actually set goals, as I said a moment ago, that are truly congruent, truly meaningful, truly inspiring, that are exactly how you want your life. There is a law in nature that says, “Any space and time that’s not filled with high-priority things will automatically be consumed by low-priority things.” So if you don’t get up and define how you want your day and how you want your life, then somebody else gets up and defines it for you. JOHN PETROZZI: Yeah. DR. JOHN DEMARTINI: So this first principle is being clear and giving yourself permission to dedicate your life to the way you want it and giving yourself permission to access the potential you have by being clear, because those who have the greatest certainly rule the game. JOHN PETROZZI: So what’s the best way to put these principles into play? Is it a matter of writing them down or talking to them with people, being accountable, having pictures around your room or office? DR. JOHN DEMARTINI: Well, when I was young, 17 or 18, I first wrote my goals. I started writing goals and I’ve been doing them ever since 37 years now. I now work them on a computer, but originally it was just writing them down on a piece of paper or something and then reading them every day. But yes, anything you can do that can enhance the reminder of these – you can put visual images with it, you can put tapes and CDs with it, music with it – anything that gives you more detail. Because the master is the

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“Stress to Success. Demartini. “This guy has set these goals and has achieved these certain things. Then I had a kind of a near-death experience and epiphany at 17 that made me want to who focuses on every finer detail. I had to get through school with the help of the smartest kids and lived on the streets as a teenager. I mean. in terms of poverty and wealth and peace and war. JOHN DEMARTINI: Well. and when we come back. At the same time you can be flexible. So it’s not a matter of what you’ve been through or what you’re going through. I wanted to be a baseball player. JOHN DEMARTINI: Well. The people who see that are just kind of stunned that their mouths drop. In my life I’ve been blessed immensely with all the things that I get accomplished. I ask people in seminars by the thousands. They realize that I’m keen for detail. When I was seven years old. it’s 760-something pages with nothing but goals. Dr. Somebody tried to stab me and stuff. DR. JOHN PETROZZI: Yeah.” Any detail you leave out is. DR. So I carry my book of objectives with me wherever I go and I’m constantly reading it whenever I have an extra moment. that’s learning. you can modify the goal tomorrow. Texas and got beat up playing baseball. let’s go for a break.” That’s not true. I have a book. but I certainly didn’t have what I have today. bestselling author of the book called “From Stress to Success” and many other books. Dr. Any detail you leave out of the dream and goal that you set is an obstacle and challenge that you may face. if you get too detailed. you know. So I say.” The faster and more frequent you read it and refine it. I mean. you’ll probably give up on them. I just read through it.” JOHN PETROZZI: Great. and I don’t seem to absorb all those things that he intends to say. JOHN DEMARTINI: Well. I guess I was sort of oriented towards going after what I wanted in life. when it comes to the Law of Attraction? DR. It’s about whether you decide to do it. read it. intricate or precise do we need to be when we’re setting these goals and how often do we need to review them? DR. and I kind of accomplished that. do you think you are born this way or have you developed these skills over time? Because a lot of people that I’ve spoken to have read your work. “That’s how I want my life. you wouldn’t imagine building a skyscraper without a plan. I was told I would never be able to read. You can refine that. So it’s being concise. and you won’t build a light that reaches to the stars unless you got a plan. because you concentrate on it. [break] JOHN PETROZZI: Hi. Stay with us. I did have a goal when I was young. JOHN PETROZZI: Yeah. JOHN PETROZZI: Yeah. JOHN DEMARTINI: You know. You want to just keep writing it in such a way that you’re inspired by it and tears drop out of your eyes when you read it. JOHN PETROZZI: Yes. “How many of you have moments of inner calm and moments of inner turmoil?” They put their hands up for both. If something comes along tomorrow that gives you an insight on how to do it more effectively or efficiently. it’s a game. Demartini. He talks really quickly.” So they tend to give up before they actually begin the road. JOHN DEMARTINI: Yeah. So how. Dr. I’ve worked with thousands of people who have done it and didn’t start from the easiest beginnings. DR. Some of them sort of give up before they even start. again. Then I got into surfing. Welcome back to Living Is Easy. write or communicate. so the more detail you put in. I suppose. You know. Demartini. can you give us a bit of a rundown of what you think is happening at the moment in the world. JOHN PETROZZI: I actually remember seeing that at one point and I was amazed. never amount to anything. So yeah. Demartini. They’re very tiny print and lots of goals in it. So I don’t want to give people the impression that they can’t do it because that’s not true. . then you become rigid and don’t allow adaptability. That’s the first principle in my book. “Well. JOHN DEMARTINI: I’ve read thousands of books and I’ve studied and mentored. We are speaking with Dr. but that got shattered when I moved to Richmond. the challenge you face. the clearer it is. I was a high school dropout. because they say. “Read it. I went to ride big waves. refine it. If you set goals that aren’t congruent with your highest values and aren’t really inspiring to you. the higher the probability the goal. which I’ve been doing for 37 years. start from the beginning and just keep reading over it and over it and over it. because they have moments when they are calm and there are other moments when they’re kind of internally conflicting. we’ll talk to you more about your new book “From Stress to Success” and also some other Laws of Attraction. never go very far in life than first grade. refine it. you know. because you go. DR. Now. some people say.

We have differences of opinion and we think that the way they raise their kids is crazy and they think ours is the same. What it means is. For every individual that’s similar to you. just like in sports. We could call that – from the Universal Oneness. when you get together with your family and your cousins at an outing somewhere. JOHN DEMARTINI: Well. everybody-agreeing kind of thing.” They’re kind of humbled and they kind of go. so what we think about. no. How can we make positive change in our lives. you got times of calm and times of turmoil again. So. you’re wondering about the many. We see this in cosmology. You previously just mentioned a law. JOHN PETROZZI: I have heard of all these concepts before.” and they laugh again. the most universal of all universal laws that we know is the Law of The One and The Many. JOHN PETROZZI: It makes sense. When you got kids. “Well. The ancient Greeks said that there is a Law of Similarities and Differences. you’re looking for this special one. I would say that you’d want to make transformations in your life. you finally get peace. JOHN DEMARTINI: Well. our innermost dominant thought becomes our outermost tangible reality. I think that is obtainable. So there are agreements and disagreements and calm and turmoil. So what happens is nature automatically keeps us oscillating between The One and The Many. if I can’t do it and my family can’t do it and my community can’t do it. we need both sides to function. A company hired me to do this for their employees. but they always have to have agreements and disagreements along the journey. you might say. because it integrates One towards oneness again. somebody may be close to you. This Law of The One and The Many is the most universal of all laws. They go. times of calm and times of turmoil. and what you do. If you’re dating many. and then from the super galaxy clusters. You got to have to embrace both support and challenge to master life. We could say that the Law of Electromagnetism and Light is from The One to The Many. True appreciation and love and growth in life demand both. without a doubt. in cosmology today – singularity point comes the many super galaxy clusters that we have today. or peace without war. positive without negative? There’s always a pair of opposites in nature.” What are some of the other universal laws? DR. You’ll have both positive and negative to somebody’s perspective. they have competitions but they do it cooperatively. Let me give you an example. I never thought about it. We have agreements and disagreements. which is.” I say. It basically states that from The One comes The Many. So in social structure. The actual example that really made it real was the one about relationships. there’ll be somebody different from you. happy. I did a seminar one time where I was teaching how to be more effective and efficient and produce more and be more inspired at work. the company went up and efficiency and efficacy grew. somebody will tend to like and some people will tend to dislike. did you finally have peace and calm?” they laugh and giggle. the ancient Greeks had of “opposites. and all of the laws are derived from it. “Wow. cooperation” – pairs of opposites there. “So at what point does it become calm without turmoil. Then I say. Dr. even the basic laws of physics are actually derivatives of the Law of One and Many. but once you got the one. do you finally get peace and calm all the time?” “Well. That’s what makes life so interesting. Demartini? DR. We could say the Law of Gravity is from The Many back to The One. The leader of the . there were times when they agree and times when they disagree. That is the most universal of all laws that we know. no. because it radiates from a source outward. we create super massive black holes that return us back to the singularity point again. we always have an oscillation between the tendency towards the liberal democracy and the conservative aristocracy or monarchy. But I do believe that we can learn to compete cooperatively and have a cooperative competition. “Well. We have to have agreements and disagreements or we don’t evolve. some may be distant from you. “What about work at your company? Do you have times pure calm there?” They say. because they know that when they got married. We see this in relationships. I think. Well. That’s called democracy. we stagnate. “Well. competition. no. The One. So I think that the Law of Attraction. So I don’t live in a fantasy that we’re going to have this peace. It’s because you got differences and you got similarities.” They I say. because I think that’s delusional. “When you make love and you have children. “When you got married. and from The Many come The One. The Many. and monarchy. But I guess.Then when I ask them. no. Then I say. But the thing is there’s somebody out there thinking just the opposite of us. why am I having a fantasy that it’s always going to be one-sided finally?” Then I tell people that it’s not realistic to expect a one-sided world when in actuality.

I know you’ve written about those in many of your other books as well.” So we really are here to continue to grow. I think that our real truest nature is to love. Can you tell us what unconditional love is and how do we practise it? DR. Break them into small enough so you overcome inertia. so you can get on to doing higher-priority things that inspire you. we become precocious. it’s our nature. Don’t give you 25 of them and then not get them all done. and we’re also setting goals that aren’t congruent with our highest values that are really most meaningful to us. Welcome back to Living Is Easy. John Demartini. you automatically set free the boundary and start moving up again to the new notch on the tree of life. they really improved our company and we’re really pleased. the thing to do is to get up in the morning and stop. unconditional love – I always say that the soul represents the spirit of unconditional love. Stay with us. So we have to make sure we set goals that are truly inspiring to us. At the end of the day. it means our vision is probably clouded and not clear to go to the next level. no matter what you do. and because it has finite senses that limit its outreach and sensory awareness compared to the infinite possibilities that are out there. go do them. If we’re not. In some of your other books – I can’t remember the name of the book – you spoke about unconditional love. JOHN DEMARTINI: Well. we grow naturally. and then the next day. I would say that we seek things that support our values. “Use stress” means that you get a little bit of support and challenge. one negative. because we live in this mortal physical structure. Somebody will like and dislike what we do. JOHN PETROZZI: Okay. JOHN PETROZZI: Yeah. If you do. “Distress” is when you get too much support you get bored. Because if we get nothing but support. Dr. just not distress. Our nature is to continue to grow. anytime we’re in a comfort zone. do it again. That makes a lot of sense. and it keeps you on the edge. Let’s go on a break and we’ll come back and speak to our guest. which is what my book “Stress to Success” helps do. there’s always an “unknown” outside our “known. or too much challenge and you get burned out. Prioritize them and go do them. [break] JOHN PETROZZI: Hi. not just for the sake of jumping out of an airplane. It was a really positive experience for them. and little actions make big dreams. What we do is. John Demartini. “You know. I always say that piggy banks become biggy banks. The wives are now thinking that there was a negative to it. “What are the seven highest priority action steps I can do today that will increase the probability of me achieving what I want?” and write them down. So for our listeners. Then document what you accomplished that day and keep a list of everything that you’re grateful for that you do accomplished in a day. Now the wives are upset because they’re coming home later and they’re leaving earlier. That’s part of life. you start to move and get past the nourishing and get into momentum. close your eyes and think. So I always say that when you go through life. Dr. but we keep attracting things that challenge our values to make sure that we grow. There’s always a question outside our answers. Every action bears a pair of opposites in our lives. said. we stay juvenile. how do we push ourselves out of that comfort zone in a meaningful way. So the very act of doing a seminar on efficiency at work spun off two polarities of perception: One supportive. if you want to master your life. That’s the healthy state that we get. celebrate that you did it. ever since that seminar. JOHN DEMARTINI: Well. DR. but the soul keeps calling us to wanting to grow beyond what our limits are. this body of ours. Just stick with the seven things and get them done. If you try to avoid one and seek the other. We have to chunk them down into small enough actions. We’re speaking with Dr. the CEO. JOHN PETROZZI: Yeah. Get just those seven things done. one challenging. JOHN PETROZZI: Hmm. one positive.” There’s always a mystery outside our history. Then. you get humbled.” The problem was that the wives of these men that I helped become more efficient were pissed. you have to embrace both. it’s because we’ve run into a stagnant strategy to get past ourselves. Demartini. because now they’re so inspired by going to work that they’re spending more time at As Emerson says in his essays on Circles. “The mind may get helmed in by a paradigm or belief system. and if we get both. Then you want to make sure that you also delegate lower-priority things to others who would be inspired to do it. . just because we know we can try it? DR. JOHN DEMARTINI: Well. if we get challenged. So you need to use stress. they’re simple steps. what are a couple of small little steps they can take to push themselves out of their comfort zone if they do feel that they’re stuck in a rut? DR. JOHN DEMARTINI: What this does is if you’re grateful for what you get to do and you document and prioritise what you do on a daily basis.

I’m doing something up here. just for the listeners. more pain than pleasure. “What’s the downside to the things that we think are so positive? What’s the upside to the things that we think are so negative?” Literally equilibrate or bring equanimity and poise to the mind to liberate us from the emotional baggage and bondage of the imbalanced state. JOHN DEMARTINI: Well. You don’t run them. I’ve been blest to open up a new country. we tend to label “good” and anything which challenges our values. more negatives than positive. JOHN DEMARTINI: There’s a lot of people in it. Once we do. The person that you admire at work. Anybody you’re infatuated with or resent run you. Dr. they run you.” We’ve got a bunch of movies that are coming out. as I call it. We just got back from Kazakhstan and Russia. I’m coming up with Jennifer Elster.As a result of it. one big school. you’ll discover that both have both sides. you’re assuming they cause more challenge to your values and support. There are people that are going to work every day and they’ve got some work colleagues that they love and adore and have some great conversations with. We’re almost out of time with our interview with Dr. it’s always there. that judgement or that filter blocks us from an unconditional state and puts conditions on things and hold us back from the observation of the magnificence of the universe. Demartini. DR. If you ask that. I suppose. Once you do and you have a nice perfectly balanced state. [break] JOHN PETROZZI: Hi and welcome back to Living is Easy. “Oh. what’s in store for you next. We’ve got some things coming up in Saudi Arabia. and it is a lesson in teaching you balance. or if in fact it is themselves that they can’t get along with. let’s try and make it a little bit real. my God!”JOHN PETROZZI: Oh. in regards to your speaking. not for the fantasies or nightmares you’ve created out of them. JOHN PETROZZI: Fantastic! . teaching and writing pursuits? DR. The questions that bring you into balance are what liberate you. the major premise that you’re teaching and living by is the fact that life is.” We tend to polarize and avoid and seek things and filter our reality. “What are the benefits of this person? What are the gains? What are the positives? What are the pleasures this person gives me?” and rebalance the perception. That means you haven’t taken the time to ask. we’re actually free to actually get on in an unconditional state and love. what happens is anytime that you resent somebody. What if there are some people in the office they just can’t get along with. JOHN DEMARTINI: Well. It’s got Hugh Jackman and David Copperfield and Ringo Starr and myself and Bob Geldof and Baz Luhrmann. but there are lots more questions that we’d like to ask you. That’s a condition that you put on them because you have an incomplete awareness of them. we tend to label “bad. We got another movie coming out in the making. Demartini. JOHN PETROZZI: Fantastic! DR. how do they practice unconditional love in that situation? Is it simply non-judgemental orDR. so there are lessons to be learned in every situation. JOHN PETROZZI: You’re in a transition from writer to movie star. JOHN DEMARTINI: -that’s got some amazing people in it. whether it’s about work or social settings. That’s not unconditional love. Demartini. what are the drawbacks of this person?” you’re going to get infatuated with them. I’ve got a new movie that’s coming out next few weeks called. You’ve ignored it because you filtered them. So what we have to do is we have to stop and take the things that we think are so positive or negative. So if you actually get to know the person you resent and the person that you’re infatuated with. Let’s have an example. JOHN PETROZZI: Dr. and exaggerate or minimise our realities and hold ourselves back from seeing the magnificence of the two actual lives. Then we got another movie we’re working on right now called “One” and another one that’s called “The Cure. and we have to neutralise them by asking. our finite perceptions tend to judge things incompletely. As a result of it. let’s go on another break and we’ll come back and speak to you more. JOHN DEMARTINI: It is a lesson. Because how are you going to have a balanced life if you can’t have a balanced perception. if you don’t ask “What are the downsides. then you’re set free to love the people for who they are. wow! DR. DR. JOHN PETROZZI: Okay. JOHN DEMARTINI: I do. or if it’s their loved one. How are you going to have a balanced physiology and well-being if you can’t have a balanced perception? So the quality of your life is based on the quality of questions you ask. Anything that supports our values. JOHN PETROZZI: So really.

So my institute. He’s written many other books worth reading. I’m John Petrozzi. JOHN DEMARTINI: So we just working and keep plugging away. I set out on my mission at 17 to travel the world and step foot in every country on the face of the earth and share my research findings to people. “Set goals. Just know that you got to give yourself permission to live an extraordinary life and give yourself permission to have an amazing and inspired life. and we’ve got students in about 138 countries now. This is Living Is Easy. in November 6 in Washington. DR. their life changes.” For his website. John. expanded and inspired lives. If everybody does that. is designed to help people.” I tell people. Maryland. “Inspiring ideas every day.” so people can get something to just trigger an action for the day. That’s the purpose of trying to reach and educate people. Thank you very.” In my book “Stress to Success. I think. There are just things going on all over the world. We’re working now and we’ve got. I just thank you for the opportunity to share. Dr. JOHN DEMARTINI: Thank you. Demartini. JOHN DEMARTINI: So there are lots going on in the movie world. very much. JOHN DEMARTINI: Well. That’s exactly what I intended to do. and you got some fantastic messages that are always very practical. So I just keep working until we got everybody across the planet. DR. We appreciate you. We just worked with the government and the police force in South Africa. Until next time. That’s why I put on my Facebook. Do you have any closing remarks for us before we go? DR. you can go to drdemartini. educate their lives and live more full. That’s exactly what seems to be happening at the moment. The people you meet and the books that you read determine your destiny. JOHN PETROZZI: As always. That’s why I tell people. JOHN DEMARTINI: Thank you so much. JOHN PETROZZI: What legacy do you want to leave for the next generation? DR. It’s always inspiring. you know. you don’t get to have it stick. JOHN PETROZZI: You’ve been listening to an interview with world-renowned human behavioural specialist and best-selling author of “From Stress to Success. Then we also got new books. in China. it’s great speaking with you. We got things going on in Japan. with the [21:30] administration to introduce my methodology for addiction resolution. So you want to put your mind into great thoughts and ideas and stand on the shoulders of giants. So at the end of the year. If you don’t put your hand into a pot of glue. in Baltimore. We approached and passed the three-billion mark in reaching people in media this year. JOHN PETROZZI: Congratulations. “If you just follow these 31 things. you blow your mind on what you get to have in your life. JOHN PETROZZI: Fantastic. JOHN DEMARTINI: Well. it will be over 60 countries I’ve lectured and spoken. not in the shadows of anyone. the Demartini Institute. I got another one called “Inspired Destiny” coming out. JOHN PETROZZI: Thank you and all the best for the future. I’ve been very blest. stay well and stay happy. .

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