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#storyappchat Developing  Storybook  Apps   for  Android
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From  User DavidBFox iPad_storytime DavidBFox roxiemunro Allikidzcontent DavidBFox momswithapps DavidBFox iPad_storytime iPad_storytime KarenRobertson DavidBFox KarenRobertson Allikidzcontent iPad_storytime DavidBFox Allikidzcontent iPad_storytime DavidBFox DavidBFox Allikidzcontent DavidBFox KarenRobertson iPad_storytime DavidBFox KarenRobertson DavidBFox roxiemunro KarenRobertson Allikidzcontent iPad_storytime roxiemunro

Tweet Time Hi  all,  show  of  hands...  who's  here  tonight?  We're  talking  about  Developing  for  the   Android  Platform  tonight!  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:01:37  +0000 RT  @DavidBFox:  Hi  all,  show  of  hands...  who's  here  tonight?  We're  talking  about   Developing  for  the  Android  Platform  tonight!  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:02:02  +0000 I'm  here!  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:02:04  +0000 I'm  here.  #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:03:19  +0000 Hi  everyone!  After  ages,  I'm  finally  able  to  come  back  to  this  chat.  The  production  of   my  app  has  me  locked  up  in  a  cave!  #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:04:48  +0000 @Brooks_Jones  isn't  going  to  be  here  tonight  (and  will  be  missed!),  but   @iPad_storytime  and  I  are  both  hosting  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:05:03  +0000 Hi  There  @roxiemunro  @DavidBFox  @ipad_storytime  @karenrobertson   #storyappchat  (Topic:  Android  App  Store) Mon,  27  May  2013  01:05:11  +0000 Welcome  @roxiemunro,  @momswithapps,  and  @Allikidzcontent  (and   @iPad_storytime)!  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:05:55  +0000 I'm  here!  (after  several  weeks  off  -­‐  so  nice  to  see  everyone)  ...  we'll  be  missing   @brooks_jones  until  next  week.  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:06:08  +0000 RT  @momswithapps:  Hi  There  @roxiemunro  @DavidBFox  @ipad_storytime   @karenrobertson  #storyappchat  (Topic:  Android  App  Store) Mon,  27  May  2013  01:06:23  +0000  @Allikidzcontent  How's  it  going?  When  do  we  get  to  see  it?  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:06:34  +0000 Hope  those  of  you  in  the  US  are  having  a  great  3-­‐day  weekend...  Feels  like  Saturday.   #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:06:48  +0000  @iPad_storytime  Me  too  for  a  little  bit.  Sunday  nights  are  tough!  Miss   @brooks_jones  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:07:02  +0000 My  developer  partners  are  very  keen  on  the  idea  of  coming  out  with  our  app  for   every  platform.we'll  launch  iOS  first,  though  #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:07:13  +0000 I've  also  got  my  hubby,  Marc  on  standby  to  answer  questions  -­‐  he's  a  seasoned   Android  programmer.  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:07:17  +0000 Welcome  to  @KarenRobertson!  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:07:21  +0000 Hi  Karen!  Hopefully  launching  for  the  Back  to  School  weeks!    #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:08:08  +0000 I  spent  the  weekend  helping  my  little  sis  celebrate  her  40th  birthday.  Feeling  a  little   tepid  from  wine  tour  yesterday.  ;-­‐)  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:08:16  +0000 @Allikidzcontent  That  makes  sense  to  launch  on  iOS  first.  But  if  the  numbers  look   right  to  you  (ROI)  Android  is  a  good  bet  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:08:19  +0000 How  many  of  you  have  apps  on  both  iOS  and  Android?  Or  just  iOS,  or  just  Android?   #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:08:49  +0000 Hi  David?  How  have  your  Android  books  done  in  comparison  to  iOS?  Was  it  worth  it?   #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:09:05  +0000 And  for  those  of  you  that  aren't  developers,  which  mobile  devices  do  you  have  (and   use  regularly)?  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:09:25  +0000 RT  @Allikidzcontent:  Hi  Karen!  Hopefully  launching  for  the  Back  to  School  weeks!     #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:09:29  +0000 We've  produced  apps  on  both  iOS  &  Android.  Most  of  the  free-­‐lance  jobs  my  hubby   gets  require  doing  both  for  business  apps.  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:10:30  +0000 @Allikidzcontent  we've  found  our  Android  sales  have  been  roughly  5-­‐10%  of  total   sales,  with  iOS  being  about  90-­‐95%  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:10:42  +0000 I  surveyed  colleagues  last  week  and  HANDS  DOWN,  Apple  downloads  far  surpass   Android  and  eBook  for  downloads  for  same  stories.  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:11:01  +0000 We  don't  advertise  so  we're  not  doing  anything  special  to  hit  the  Android  market   (nor  the  iOS  market).  Nook  used  to  be  higher  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:11:18  +0000 I  just  have  IOS  apps,  but  OCG  Studios  made  The  Artist  Mortimer  app  for  my  husband   for  Google  Play  also.  #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:11:20  +0000 RT  @DavidBFox  weve  found  our  Android  sales  have  been  roughly  5-­‐10%  of  total   sales,  with  iOS  being  about  90-­‐95%  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:11:22  +0000 I'm  excited  about  the  Google  Play  Education  this  week.  Have  U  heard?  I  think  this  will   make  developing  kids  apps  +  worthwhile  #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:11:27  +0000 I'm  hearing  *a  lot*  more  interest  in  Android  from  teachers/librarians  this  year,  ideal   to  have  a  book  on  every  format  possible  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:11:49  +0000 @DavidBFox  iPad,iPhone,  kindle  fire.  #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:12:00  +0000

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#storyappchat Developing  Storybook  Apps   for  Android
May  26,  2013

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RT  @iPad_storytime:  We've  produced  apps  on  iOS  &  Android.  Most  of  the  freelance   KarenRobertson jobs  we  get  require  both  for  business  apps.  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:12:09  +0000 RT  @roxiemunro:  I  just  have  IOS  apps,  but  OCG  Studios  made  The  Artist  Mortimer   iPad_storytime app  for  my  husband  for  Google  Play  also.  #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:12:19  +0000 But  we're  seeing  Android  slowly  increasing.  Highest  at  10%  of  sales  was  a  year  ago.  In   DavidBFox March,  closer  to  5%.  Maybe  higher  now  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:12:19  +0000 @KarenRobertson  Did  U  reach  a  consensus  on  %  of  sales  4  each,  so  we  can  compare   Allikidzcontent both?    #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:12:30  +0000 @iPad_storytime  Makes  sense  for  business  apps  to  be  on  Android  and  iOS   KarenRobertson #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:12:44  +0000 We  have  1  iOS  tablet,  &  1  Android  (Nexus)  in  the  home.  Voice  recognition  on  the   momswithapps Nexus  is  pretty  good.  Apps,  not  so  many.  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:13:05  +0000 KarenRobertson On  iOS,  90%+  sales  are  on  iPad  vs  iPhone  as  well,  FYI  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:13:18  +0000 @momswithapps  Is  it  because  there  just  aren't  that  many  good  apps  you're  seeing   DavidBFox on  Android?  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:14:23  +0000  @DavidBFox  wow,  that's  a  MAJOR  difference!  Do  U  think  it's  still  a  problem  of   Allikidzcontent Android  users  wanting  everything  4  free?  Or  what?  #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:14:35  +0000 @KarenRobertson  You  have  separate  versions  for  iPad  vs.  iPhone  rather  than  a   DavidBFox universal  version?  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:15:02  +0000 roxiemunro @KarenRobertson  right,  Karen.  iPad  dominates  over  iPhone  for  us.  #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:15:09  +0000 @roxiemunro  I  didn't  know  the  Mortimer  app  was  your  husbands'!  My  son  and  I   Allikidzcontent liked  it!  #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:15:44  +0000 @Allikidzcontent  I've  heard  that  Android  users  are  not  only  less  likely  to  purchase   DavidBFox apps,  but  even  use  apps!  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:15:53  +0000 I  wonder  if  Kindle  Fire  (which  has  a  family-­‐friendly  price)  will  steer  sales  more  equally   momswithapps across  platforms.  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:16:26  +0000 @Allikidzcontent  apparently  many  never  even  open  the  browser  that  comes  on  their   DavidBFox Android  device.  It's  just  a  phone  to  them  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:16:40  +0000 @Allikidzcontent  thanks!  It  was  done  with  OCG  Studios  Develop-­‐Your-­‐Own   roxiemunro framework,  which  is  really  cool.  #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:17:05  +0000 @Allikidzcontent  I  keep  hearing  Android  users  expect  apps  for  free  but  frankly,  it's   KarenRobertson anecdotal.  Haven't  seen  hard  research    #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:17:10  +0000 So  if  you  were  to  look  at  total  numbers  of  Android  devices  out  there,  that's  not  a   DavidBFox good  predictor  of  %  sales  of  apps  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:17:25  +0000 KarenRobertson @DavidBFox  Mortimer  is  a  gorgeous  book  app!  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:17:30  +0000 roxiemunro I  never  play  apps  on  my  Kindle  Fire.  #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:17:32  +0000 @iPad_storytime  Why  do  U  think  teachers  R  more  interested  in  Android  this  year?   Allikidzcontent Cost  of  devices?    #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:17:45  +0000 RT  @DavidBFox:apparently  many  never  even  open  the  browser  that  comes  on  their   KarenRobertson Android  device.  Its  just  a  phone  to  them  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:17:51  +0000 Also  new  review  sites:  @SmartAppsforKids  now  has  Android:   http://t.co/wEJbCV11nB    &  Digital-­‐Storytime:  http://t.co/UyReMEzMLA   iPad_storytime #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:18:18  +0000 You  have  to  look  at  customer  behaviour,  not  just  market  penetration  of  number  of   KarenRobertson devices.  When  I  put  my  marketing  hat  on...  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:18:22  +0000 roxiemunro RT  @roxiemunro:  I  never  play  apps  on  my  Kindle  Fire.  #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:18:50  +0000 roxiemunro RT  @KarenRobertson:  @DavidBFox  Mortimer  is  a  gorgeous  book  app!  #Storyappchat Apple  owners  are  more  likely  to  be  young  families,  higher  income  level,  buyers  of   KarenRobertson apps.  So  iPad  owners  are  my  primary  market.  #storyappchat DavidBFox @KarenRobertson  Exactly!  #storyappchat Also  new  review  sites:  @SmartAppsforKids  now  has  Android:   http://t.co/9wPeDznhUB    &  Digital-­‐Storytime:  http://t.co/3nG9y7bG2T   KarenRobertson #storyappchat @Allikidzcontent  More  schools  are  getting  Android,  probably  because  of  cost  or   iPad_storytime 'bundled'  content  on  Kuno/Kno  tablets  #storyappchat roxiemunro Oops..accidentally  retweeted    my  own  ...sorry.  Scrolling  too  fast.  #Storyappchat @KarenRobertson  Our  apps  are  universal,  so  not  sure  if  iPad  or  iPhone.  Guessing   DavidBFox mostly  iPad.  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:19:14  +0000 Mon,  27  May  2013  01:19:21  +0000 Mon,  27  May  2013  01:19:22  +0000

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#storyappchat Developing  Storybook  Apps   for  Android
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@iPad_storytime  Carisa,  do  you  still  find  your  traffic  is  highest  for  Apple  apps  vs.   KarenRobertson your  Android  reviews?  #storyappchat roxiemunro @KarenRobertson  same  here,  Karen.  IPad  families  and  schools....  #Storyappchat KarenRobertson @iPad_storytime  Do  you  have  an  article  link  re:  this?  I'm  curious!  Thx  #storyappchat @KarenRobertson  So  books  sell  mostly  on  iPad:  90%?  It's  logical.  Guess  parents  use   Allikidzcontent iphone  4  quick  games  while  waiting  #Storyappchat Are  there  any  big  differences  in  production  cost  for  iOS  vs  Android  apps?  Other   iPad_storytime hurdles  for  cross-­‐platform  titles?  #storyappchat @iPad_storytime  What's  Kuno/Kno  tablets?  Haven't  heard  of  them  yet.   DavidBFox #storyappchat I  think  some  of  these  less  well-­‐known  or  new  devices  are  trying  to  bundle  apps?   roxiemunro #Storyappchat @iPad_storytime  If  you  use  a  cross-­‐platform  dev  environment  (like  @CoronaLabs)   DavidBFox then  cost  to  port  is  minimal.  #storyappchat RT  @DavidBFox:  @iPad_storytime  If  you  use  a  cross-­‐platform  dev  environment  (like   iPad_storytime @CoronaLabs)  then  cost  to  port  is  minimal.  #storyappchat @iPad_storytime  but  if  you're  developing  in  Xcode  on  iOS,  then  probably  would  be  a   DavidBFox much  bigger  expense.  #storyappchat @DavidBFox  I'm  hoping  our  iOS  app  will  come  out  Universal:  iPad-­‐  iPhone.It's  a  pain   Allikidzcontent 4  clients  if  they  have  2  buy  them  separate  #Storyappchat RT  @DavidBFox:  @iPad_storytime  If  you  use  a  cross-­‐platform  dev  environment  (like   KarenRobertson @CoronaLabs)  then  cost  to  port  is  minimal.  #storyappchat @DavidBFox  Kuno:  http://t.co/3kM7OBS5MM  and  Kno:  http://t.co/hRsL8H42ZE  -­‐   iPad_storytime these  are  2  tablets  our  local  schools  have  now  #storyappchat @iPad_storytime  What's  your  husband's  experience  in  developing  natively  for  both   DavidBFox platforms?  #storyappchat @DavidBFox  re  cross  platform...do  you  have  to  compromise  some  features?   roxiemunro #Storyappchat @Allikidzcontent  Agreed...  that's  why  we  went  that  route.  Wanted  sales  from  both   DavidBFox to  count  together  in  standings.  #storyappchat @DavidBFox  So  then  what  do  Android  user  actually  use  their  tablets  for?  Navigate?   Allikidzcontent Skype?  #Storyappchat DavidBFox @iPad_storytime  are  apps  bundled  with  the  (Kuno  and  Kno)?  #storyappchat @roxiemunro  Bundle,  or  even  offer  an  entire  catalog  for  subscription,  like  Kindle   momswithapps FreeTime  http://t.co/5N47kqab6W  #storyappchat @roxiemunro  We  didn't  have  to  compromise  in  features,  but  then  we're  not  using   DavidBFox any  hardware-­‐specific  features  #storyappchat RT  @davidbfox:  @iPad_storytime  If  you  use  a  cross-­‐platform  dev  environment  (like   momswithapps @CoronaLabs)  then  cost  to  port  is  minimal.  #storyappchat @Allikidzcontent  Kindle  Fire  =  movies  and  books?  Nook  =  books?  Android  phones  =   DavidBFox phones?  (guessing)    #storyappchat Julia_Brannon roxiemunro DavidBFox iPad_storytime KarenRobertson iPad_storytime KarenRobertson roxiemunro Julia_Brannon Allikidzcontent iPad_storytime RT  @Julia_Brannon:  Hi  Everyone!  Stopping  in  late.  Just  read  the  feed.    #storyappchat RT  @momswithapps  BTW,what  happened  to  a  new  Android  device  that  was   supposed  to  come  out  from  Isabella  called  Fable?  #Storyappchat Welcome  @Julia_Brannon!  Anything  to  add  to  the  discussion?  #storyappchat  @DavidBFox  Marc  says  iOS  &  Android  are  fundamentally  different  design   environments,  iOS  very  low  level/old  school  ...    #storyappchat Hi  Julie  of  @julia_brannon  great  to  see  you  here.    #storyappchat @DavidBFox  ...  and  Android  is  broken  up  more  into  activities,  "programlets"  which   scale  much  better  as  app  gets  bigger.  #storyappchat  @roxiemunro  I  haven't  heard  anything  and  they  were  heavily  recruiting  apps  18   months  ago  #storyappchat They  approached  us  to  bundle  our  apps  w/  other  (Fable)  #Storyappchat @KarenRobertson  Hi  Karen!    I  haven't  seen  you  around  for  a  while  (:  #storyappchat RT  @iPad_storytime:  Kuno:  http://t.co/X55YhHcaCQ  and  Kno:   http://t.co/Mu0YXlZZry  -­‐  these  are  2  tablets  our  schools  have  #Storyappchat @DavidBFox  Yes,  I  think  so,  although  I  haven't  actually  gotten  to  use  one  yet.  They   have  them  for  3rd  graders  at  our  school.  #storyappchat

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@Julia_Brannon  We  got  "lifed"  a  bit  with  an  ill  child.  Things  much  better  now  but  I've   KarenRobertson been  out  of  action  for  3  months.    #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:30:05  +0000 @roxiemunro  These  guys?  http://t.co/60vDIe8h7o  Well  their  last  tweet  was  May  24   momswithapps so  haven't  bit  dust  yet.  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:30:35  +0000 Julia_Brannon @KarenRobertson  I'm  happy  you  are  back  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:31:05  +0000 iPad_storytime @KarenRobertson  Hope  your  kiddo  is  doing  better!  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:31:24  +0000 momswithapps Agreed  RT  @julia_brannon:  @KarenRobertson  I'm  happy  you  are  back  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:31:47  +0000 Some  sources  tell  me  that  Android  is  sure  to  be  the  tablet  choice  for  schools  due  to   Julia_Brannon cost.    Is  this  true?    #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:32:14  +0000 @momswithapps  Right!  I  guess  they  are  having  issues  re  product  production  or   roxiemunro development.  #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:32:20  +0000 @momswithapps  IMO  Kindle  subscriptn  4  kids  content  is  what  makes  dev'ing  4   Allikidzcontent Android  more  attractive  w/  little  code  adjustment    #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:32:41  +0000 I  have  my  Google  Alert  set  for  "iPads  in  schools"  so  I  don't  hear  much  about  Android.     Julia_Brannon #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:33:11  +0000 One  interesting  piece  of  news  for  Nook  developers  is  that  Nooks  can  now  buy  apps   DavidBFox from  Google  Play.  So  no  need  to  dev  for  Nook?  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:33:34  +0000 @KarenRobertson  I  don't  have  a  link  about  teachers  asking  about  Android,  just  my   iPad_storytime anecdotal  exp.  Interest  in  content  seems  low.  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:33:49  +0000 @Julia_Brannon  Thanks  Everyone.  Health  is  EVERYTHING!!  Thank  God  all  is  well  now.   KarenRobertson xo  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:33:59  +0000 RT  @Julia_Brannon:  Some  sources  tell  me  that  Android  is  sure  to  be  the  tablet  choice   KarenRobertson for  schools  due  to  cost.    Is  this  true?    #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:34:22  +0000 DavidBFox @KarenRobertson  Really  glad  health  has  returned  to  your  child!  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:34:42  +0000 @iPad_storytime  what  does  your  hubby  mean  by  iOS  being"low  level"?  Is  related  to   Allikidzcontent programming  language?  #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:34:57  +0000 roxiemunro Does  seem  like  the  iPad  is  the  desired  device  for  schools.  #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:34:59  +0000 @Julia_Brannon  I'm  guessing  that  may  be  the  case  down  the  road...  if  enough  iOS   DavidBFox edu  devs  port  to  Android.  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:35:17  +0000  @KarenRobertson  Oh,  just  caught  your  ?  about  traffic  for  iOS  vs  Android.  I  don't   iPad_storytime promote  Android  much  &  traffic  is  much  lower.  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:35:27  +0000 @julia_brannon  Given  Google's  Education  Store  announcement  that  might  be   momswithapps something  to  keep  an  eye  on  -­‐  android  in  schools  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:35:35  +0000 @momswithapps  Can  you  summarize  what  Google's  Edu  Store  announcement  said?   DavidBFox #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:36:25  +0000 @Allikidzcontent  I  was  wondering  about  the  IOS  low  level  comment  also,  David...   roxiemunro #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:36:26  +0000 RT  @roxiemunro:  Does  seem  like  the  iPad  is  the  desired  device  for  schools.   KarenRobertson #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:36:31  +0000 @roxiemunro  I  think  Fable  Learn  is  a  good  companion  to  be  bundled  up  with.  Not   Allikidzcontent detrimental  at  all.  #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:36:37  +0000 @momswithapps  It's  going  to  be  very  interesting  to  see  who  wins  the  schools  in  the   Julia_Brannon end:  iOS  or  Android    #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:37:12  +0000 roxiemunro @Allikidzcontent  but  is  it  out  yet?  #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:37:13  +0000 Here  is  a  venturebeat  article  on  topic  of  Google,  iPads  &  Schools   momswithapps http://t.co/KJgBng1peE  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:37:37  +0000 @Allikidzcontent  Low-­‐level  means  closer  to  the  hardware  vs  working  in  abstract   iPad_storytime layer.  More  like  you  would  program  Apple  IIe  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:37:42  +0000 RT  @momswithapps:  Here  is  a  venturebeat  article  on  topic  of  Google,  iPads  &   DavidBFox Schools  http://t.co/xo2rkbNtOy  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:38:09  +0000 @Allikidzcontent  On  iOS  you  always  deal  w/  absolute  pixels,  on  android  pixels  are   iPad_storytime not  always  in  a  specific  spot  ...  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:38:42  +0000 roxiemunro @Allikidzcontent  and  Fable  is  Android...  #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:38:46  +0000 @momswithapps  Thanks  for  that  link!  I  hadn't  heard  about  this  kids  tablet  yet.  I   Allikidzcontent wonder  what  OS  they  use?    #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:38:59  +0000 @iPad_storytime  So  from  that  POV,  coding  in  @CoronaSDK  is  relatively  hi-­‐level.  Easy   DavidBFox for  both  iOS  and  Android.  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:39:06  +0000

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RT  @momswithapps:  Here  is  a  venturebeat  article  on  topic  of  Google,  iPads  &   KarenRobertson Schools  http://t.co/AB5XMYyWyy  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:39:23  +0000 RT  @momswithapps:  Here  is  a  venturebeat  article  on  topic  of  Google,  iPads  &   iPad_storytime Schools  http://t.co/KJgBng1peE  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:39:25  +0000 RT  @momswithapps:  Here  is  a  venturebeat  article  on  topic  of  Google,  iPads  &   Julia_Brannon Schools  http://t.co/U1S2ZgEG8a  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:39:42  +0000 @iPad_storytime  in  @CoronaSDK,  controlling  pixels  and  images  would  be  the  same   DavidBFox commands  for  both  platforms  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:39:54  +0000 Exactly!  RT  @DavidBFox:  So  from  that  POV,  coding  in  @CoronaSDK  is  relatively  hi-­‐ iPad_storytime level.  Easy  for  both  iOS  and  Android.  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:40:20  +0000 @davidbfox  I'm  personally  interested  in  what  Google  does  here  because  our  local   momswithapps teachers  are  all  on  Google  Apps.  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:41:02  +0000 It  took  me  a  couple  of  days  to  make  changes  to  our  iOS  apps  so  they'd  work  on   DavidBFox Android  devices  using  @CoronaSDK  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:41:19  +0000 RT  @momswithapps:    Im  personally  interested  in  what  Google  does  here  because   KarenRobertson our  local  teachers  are  all  on  Google  Apps.  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:41:42  +0000 @DavidBFox  yes,  I  guessed  that  what  it  meant  when  I  read  the  news,  but  I  don't   Allikidzcontent think  Nook  represents  much  %  vs.  Kindle?  Or  no?  #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:41:49  +0000 @momswithapps  I've  only  seen  iPads  in  schools  so  find  this  very  interesting.  Wonder   KarenRobertson what  the  real  stats  are?  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:42:11  +0000 @DavidBFox  Sounds  like  @CoronaSDK  lets  a  programmer  control  a  lot,  altho  doesn't   iPad_storytime have  same  tools  for  multiple  screen  sizes  ...  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:42:35  +0000 KarenRobertson Bye  everyone!  I  have  to  sign  off  now.    #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:43:11  +0000 As  a  mouse/keyboard  user  I  wonder  if  iPads  are  ideal  for  kids  to  create  as  well  as   Julia_Brannon consume:  Digi  natives  ok  with  touch  only?    #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:43:12  +0000 @KarenRobertson  i  never  guessed  your  child  was  sick!  you  kept  all  the  activity  going!   Allikidzcontent I  admire  you!  Glad  he's  well  now!  #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:43:20  +0000 @KarenRobertson  @momswithapps  -­‐  I'm  haven't  found  numbers  anywhere,  but   iPad_storytime NONE  of  our  schools  have  iPads,  only  Android  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:43:51  +0000 @karenrobertson  iPads  were  first  purchase  in  schools,  because  they  were  first  tablet.   momswithapps But  will  they  be  the  next  purchase  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:43:55  +0000 @Julia_Brannon  we're  doing  ipad  apps  that  let  children  create  movies,  sounds,   roxiemunro photos...  #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:45:21  +0000 @julia_brannon  In  our  class  (4th  grade)  teachers  trying  for  creating  content,  not   momswithapps consuming.  End  year  project  is  iBook  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:45:35  +0000 @Julia_Brannon  Tablet  discussion  seems  to  be  shifting  to  creating  not  consuming   iPad_storytime content,  can  use  computer  to  polish  projects.  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:46:28  +0000 @iPad_storytime  that's  amazing!  Re  only  Android  devices  in  a  school.    I  didn't   roxiemunro realize...  #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:46:39  +0000  @roxiemunro  This  was  true  in  both  the  WA  &  CA  schools  my  kid  has  gone  to  ...   iPad_storytime bummer  for  me  personally,  of  course!  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:47:37  +0000 @momswithapps  I  think  if  Google  Play  Educ.  can  convince  dev's  2  make  Android   Allikidzcontent version,  then  Yes,  newcomer  schools  will  buy  Andr  #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:47:54  +0000 @Allikidzcontent  Initially  had  good  Nook  app  sales.  Now  more  in  Amazon  App  store,   DavidBFox few  Nook,  and  fewer  still  in  Google  Play  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:48:02  +0000 @iPad_storytime  Not  sure  what  Android  has  4  multiple  screen  sizes.  Our  same  apps   DavidBFox works  on  all  devices  regardless  of  scrn  size  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:49:03  +0000 RT  @DavidBFox:  RT  @momswithapps:  Here  is  a  venturebeat  article  on  topic  of   lynnmarentette Google,  iPads  &  Schools  http://t.co/xo2rkbNtOy  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:49:43  +0000 Developers  themselves  seem  more  enamored  of  the  iPad  than  the  many  Android   roxiemunro devices.  #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:50:17  +0000 @roxiemunro  Schools  I've  talked  to  say  it  comes  down  to  $  in  the  end  -­‐  #  of  tablets   iPad_storytime on  a  budget  gives  Android  advantage.  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:50:20  +0000 In  my  area  (AL),  I  know  of  6  schools  -­‐  2  have  iPads  and  4  have  no  tablets.    One  of  the   Julia_Brannon iPad  schools  lucked  out  on  a  grant.  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:51:14  +0000 My  dev  partners  are  keen  on  dev'ing  for  WP8,  and  other  platforms  they've  heard  are   Allikidzcontent going  2  increase  in  year  or  more.  #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:51:21  +0000 RT  @iPad_storytime:  @roxiemunro  Schools  say  it  comes  down  to  $  -­‐  #  of  tablets  on  a   roxiemunro budget  gives  Android  advantage.  makes  sense  #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:51:37  +0000

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@allikidzcontent  Schools  may  buy.  Concern  is  if  developers  will  see  enough  ROI  to   momswithapps create.  Will  app  store  be  like  music  store  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:52:22  +0000 One  drawback  for  Android  dev  is  you'd  need  LOTS  of  devices  for  thorough  testing.   DavidBFox Way  more  than  iOS...  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:52:58  +0000 Do  you  figure  that  after  first  year  on  iOS  and  Android,  a  way  of  keeping  sales  is   Allikidzcontent coming  out  for  new  platforms?  Or  bad  idea?  #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:53:22  +0000 Has  anyone  used  these  companies  that  will  migrate  your  app  from  iOS  to  Android  for   Julia_Brannon a  fee?    #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:53:54  +0000 RT  @momswithapps:  Here  is  a  venturebeat  article  on  topic  of  Google,  iPads  &   TheiMums Schools  http://t.co/KJgBng1peE  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:54:40  +0000 RT  @DavidBFox:  One  drawback  for  Android  dev  is  you'd  need  LOTS  of  devices  for   roxiemunro thorough  testing.  Way  more  than  iOS...  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:54:47  +0000 @Julia_Brannon  Marc  advises  finding  out  if  they  will  tailor  it  to  all  the  dif.  devices  or   iPad_storytime just  tablets.  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:55:53  +0000 @Julia_Brannon  Don't  know  'em  but  IMO  probably  not  a  good  idea  if  if  hasn't  been   Allikidzcontent dev'ed  for  both  platforms  from  start  (ROI)  #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:56:44  +0000 @allikidzcontent  Might  depend  on  how  big  your  team  is  and  what  trade-­‐offs  you   momswithapps need  to  make  to  go  cross-­‐platform.  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:56:46  +0000 @Julia_Brannon  Haven't  tried  a  3rd  party.  We  did  the  conversion  ourselves  because   DavidBFox it  was  so  easy  in  Corona  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:56:48  +0000 Julia_Brannon @TheiMums  Hello  iMummies!  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:56:59  +0000 @momswithapps  Have  you  seen  @Bookboard?  They  have  steaming  service  for   iPad_storytime digital  #kidlit  -­‐  free  trial:  http://t.co/V5AU7UI5sj  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:57:31  +0000 RT  @momswithapps:  Here  is  a  venturebeat  article  on  topic  of  Google,  iPads  &   kidsdesk Schools  http://t.co/KJgBng1peE  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:57:55  +0000 kidsdesk RT  @Julia_Brannon:  @TheiMums  Hello  iMummies!  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:58:00  +0000 momswithapps RT  @julia_brannon:  @TheiMums  Hello  iMummies!  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:58:25  +0000 RT  @momswithapps:  Here  is  a  venturebeat  article  on  topic  of  Google,  iPads  &   neethishkishore Schools  http://t.co/KJgBng1peE  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:58:38  +0000 DavidBFox Hi  @kidsdesk  @TheiMums  ...  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:58:50  +0000 RT  @momswithapps:  RT  @julia_brannon:  @TheiMums  Hello  iMummies!   roxiemunro #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:59:00  +0000 @Allikidzcontent  Excellent  question.  I  think  any  app  benefits  from  new  releases,   iPad_storytime whether  on  new  platforms  or  new  content.  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:59:15  +0000 We're  getting  close  to  the  end  of  our  hour...  any  last  questions/statements  re   DavidBFox Android  development?  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:59:20  +0000 RE:  using  new  platforms  to  extend  life  of  app:  who  has  considered  dev'ing  outside  of   Allikidzcontent Android  +  iOS?  #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  01:59:40  +0000 Julia_Brannon May  the  best  idevice  maker  win  the  market.  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  02:00:37  +0000 roxiemunro @Allikidzcontent  wouldn't  that  require  a  lot  of  new  marketing  also?  #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  02:00:49  +0000 @Allikidzcontent  I'm  not  yet  convinced  other  platforms  are  worth  developing  for   DavidBFox #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  02:01:02  +0000  @Allikidzcontent  Do  you  mean  Blackberry?  Nook  &  Kindle  are  part  of  Android  -­‐  Web   iPad_storytime Apps?  I  hear  that  is  the  final  frontier!  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  02:01:48  +0000 @ipad_storytime  My  ?:  if  I'm  a  platform,  and  I  charge  monthly  for  all  you  can  eat   momswithapps content,  what  does  content  creator  get  paid?  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  02:01:49  +0000 Oh,  I  should  say  that  the  current  project  we're  working  on  is  built  on  Unity3D,  which   DavidBFox is  also  crossplatform,  to  way  more  devs  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  02:01:55  +0000 @iPad_storytime  Sometimes  I  think  users  don't  update  their  book  apps  4  new   Allikidzcontent content:  don't  know  how  useful,  except  4  App  Store  #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  02:02:08  +0000 RT  @DavidBFox:  @Allikidzcontent  Im  not  yet  convinced  other  platforms  are  worth   roxiemunro developing  for.Same  here!  #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  02:02:22  +0000 Besides  Android  and  iOS,  it  can  build  for  Mac,  Windows,  set  top  boxes,  etc.   DavidBFox #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  02:02:27  +0000 @Allikidzcontent  Most  of  my  clients  think  it's  too  early  to  dev  for  other  platforms   Julia_Brannon besides  Android  and  iOS    #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  02:02:31  +0000 DavidBFox but  I  don't  think  of  Unity3d  as  a  great  environment  for  story  apps.  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  02:02:53  +0000 @roxiemunro  Yes  and  new  marketing  means  more  time  investment.  Wondering  if   Allikidzcontent it'll  be  worth  it.  #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  02:03:09  +0000

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@davidbfox  @iPad_storytime  Thanks  for  hosting!  (Topic:  Android  Platform  -­‐  search   momswithapps #storyappchat  for  transcript) Mon,  27  May  2013  02:03:09  +0000  @roxiemunro  @Allikidzcontent  Marketing  is  no  small  affair!  How  to  engage  non-­‐iOS   iPad_storytime users?  I  get  asked  often  &  don't  have  answer.  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  02:03:33  +0000 RT  @Allikidzcontent:  @roxiemunro  Yes  and  new  marketing  means  more  time   roxiemunro investment.  Wondering  if  itll  be  worth  it.  #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  02:03:38  +0000 @DavidBFox  Wow,  why  not?  That's  what  my  dev's  are  using!  Please  tell!   Allikidzcontent #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  02:03:46  +0000 @momswithapps  probably  something  like  Amazon's  "rent  a  kindle  book"  system.  We   DavidBFox get  a  royalty  each  time  someone  rents  a  book  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  02:03:47  +0000 @Allikidzcontent  yes.  How  are  our  resources  used....  Time,  and  money  and   roxiemunro concentration...  #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  02:04:28  +0000 @davidbfox  Love  that  you  are  on  the  cutting  edge  David.  Role  Model  Extraordinaire!   momswithapps :)  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  02:04:43  +0000 @Julia_Brannon  I'd  agree  with  that.  Not  a  big  enough  installed  base  on  other   DavidBFox platforms.  I'd  love  our  apps  to  work  on  Mac/Win  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  02:05:10  +0000 Thanks  everyone!  @momswithapps  @davidbfox  @iPad_storytime  @RoxieMunro   Julia_Brannon @KarenRobertson  @AlliKidzcontent  @theimums  goodnight!  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  02:05:29  +0000 RT  @momswithapps:  Here  is  a  venturebeat  article  on  topic  of  Google,  iPads  &   swimfreak78 Schools  http://t.co/KJgBng1peE  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  02:05:48  +0000 Wow!  A  fast-­‐paced  chat  -­‐  great  questions  &  lots  of  creative  folks  to  answer!  Watch   iPad_storytime for  transcript:  http://t.co/5ofDjwpA0z  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  02:05:54  +0000 @Allikidzcontent  Unless  you  really  need  a  3D  environment,  I  think  it  might  be   DavidBFox overkill.  If  you  need  3D,  then  Unity's  great!  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  02:06:07  +0000 DavidBFox @momswithapps  hah!  Bleeding  edge?  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  02:06:35  +0000 Have  a  great  week,  folks...Am  signing  at  BEA  (Book  Expo  America)  on  Saturday.  Will   roxiemunro check  out  publishers  re  digital...  #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  02:07:19  +0000 It's  good  2  hear  your  opinions,  and  thanks  4  the  great  info!  Hope  I  might  check  in   Allikidzcontent more  often  with  this  chat  in  near  future!  #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  02:07:41  +0000 Thank  you  all  for  joining  in!  Great  chat!  And  thanks  cohost  @iPad_storytime,  and  our   DavidBFox absent  cohost  @brooks_jones  (and  Marc!)  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  02:08:02  +0000 @momswithapps  @DavidBFox  I  know  -­‐  David  is  amazing  -­‐  he  and  @Annie_Fox  have   iPad_storytime been  wonderful  role  models  for  our  family!  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  02:08:07  +0000 DavidBFox @Allikidzcontent  Hope  so!  Come  back  soon!  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  02:08:25  +0000 Our  topic  for  next  week  is  "Skeuomorphic  Interfaces:  Good  or  Bad?"  See  you  then!   DavidBFox #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  02:09:10  +0000 @davidbfox  You  bet.  Meanwhile,  I'm  keeping  my  eye  on  Google's  Play  (pun   momswithapps intended)  #storyappchat  http://t.co/s3xllve6iR Mon,  27  May  2013  02:09:35  +0000 DavidBFox @iPad_storytime  Wow,  thanks!!  (blushing)  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  02:09:48  +0000 RT  @roxiemunro:  Oh  please  let  us  know  what  Pubs  Rinterested  in  dig.  rights  at  BEA!   Allikidzcontent I'm  interested  in  selling  lang/regions  #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  02:10:07  +0000 roxiemunro @Allikidzcontent  yep...I'll  try  to  be  a  spy  and  collect  info  ;-­‐))  #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  02:11:01  +0000 TY  2  @DavidBFox  &  @brooks_jones  (my  intrepid  co-­‐hosts)  &  my  hubby  Marc  for   iPad_storytime letting  me  channel  his  Android  skills!  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  02:11:28  +0000 @roxiemunro  Thanks!  Pls  Get  back  in  touch:  l.allison.p  (at)http://t.co/IrgY96ZN7L.   Allikidzcontent Bye!  #Storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  02:12:11  +0000 Skeuomorph:  http://t.co/I9X1dfkmWO  MT  @DavidBFox:  Topic  next  week:   iPad_storytime Skeuomorphic  Interfaces:  Good  or  Bad?  #storyappchat  Sundays  6pm  PT/9pm  ET Mon,  27  May  2013  02:18:58  +0000 @Julia_Brannon  @momswithapps  @DavidBFox  @roxiemunro  @KarenRobertson   iPad_storytime @Allikidzcontent  @TheiMums  Thank  you  so  much  for  joining  #storyappchat! Mon,  27  May  2013  02:21:51  +0000 @momswithapps  With  @bookboard,  my  understanding  is  that  content  creators  get   iPad_storytime paid  based  on  #  of  reads,  but  model  is  developing  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  02:30:06  +0000 RT  @DavidBFox:  RT  @momswithapps:  Here  is  a  venturebeat  article  on  topic  of   izadmajid Google,  iPads  &  Schools  http://t.co/xo2rkbNtOy  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  03:17:51  +0000 RT  @Julia_Brannon:  RT  @momswithapps:  Here  is  a  venturebeat  article  on  topic  of   SabinaIdler Google,  iPads  &  Schools  http://t.co/U1S2ZgEG8a  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  06:29:27  +0000 RT  @momswithapps:  Here  is  a  venturebeat  article  on  topic  of  Google,  iPads  &   SabinaIdler Schools  http://t.co/KJgBng1peE  #storyappchat Mon,  27  May  2013  06:32:00  +0000

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#storyappchat Developing  Storybook  Apps   for  Android @LilMissDay_  Agreed...  that's  why  we  went  that  route.  Wanted  sales  from  both  to   count  together  in  standings.  #storyappchat @Aral131_  apparently  many  never  even  open  the  browser  that  comes  on  their   Android  device.  It's  just  a  phone  to  them  #storyappchat Skeuomorph  (wiki):  http://t.co/YtyOfRaODb  MT:  @DavidBFox:  Topic  next  week:   Skeuomorphic  Interfaces:  Good  or  Bad?  #storyappchat  6pm  PT  Sun RT  @momswithapps:  Here  is  a  venturebeat  article  on  topic  of  Google,  iPads  &   Schools  http://t.co/KJgBng1peE  #storyappchat
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rmurphy1971_ iamsiestan iPad_storytime MathEvolve

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