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Tweet Time RT DavidBFox to @momswithapps: Here is a venturebeat article on topic of Google, iPads & Schools http://t.co/EJKzbXk511 #storyappchat Sun, 09 Jun 2013 09:28:18 +0000 MT @momswithapps iPads were first purchase in schools, because they were first tablet. But will they be the next purchase? #storyappchat Sun, 09 Jun 2013 09:30:28 +0000 MT @momswithapps Schools may buy. Concern is if developers will see enough ROI to create. Will app store be like music store #storyappchat Sun, 09 Jun 2013 09:30:45 +0000 What's #storyappchat? | The Digital Media Diet http://t.co/ehdvtbwgRI Sun, 09 Jun 2013 14:20:09 +0000 @iPad_storytime: What's #storyappchat? | The Digital Media Diet http://t.co/JPcGUxJPtq Tonight, 6pmPT/9pmET Sun, 09 Jun 2013 20:18:29 +0000 About ready to ramp up for tonite's #storyappchat: anybody else out there? Show of hands? Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:00:40 +0000 One hand raised, the other one cupped around my ear to better hear all the sound talk. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:01:23 +0000 I'm here! #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:02:01 +0000 @DavidBFox Always happy to have you helping co-host for #storyappchat, David! Hope you are having a nice evening :) Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:02:16 +0000 @drawbeard Hi Adam and welcome to tonite's #storyappchat! Glad you could join us :) Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:02:49 +0000 Good evening! I'm just here for a bit. I'll read the transcripts tomorrow... #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:03:07 +0000 I'm here, too! #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:03:09 +0000 @yrojjory Welcome Jory! Glad you could join us! #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:04:00 +0000 Hi folks... #Storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:04:29 +0000 Thanks for inviting me, @DavidBFox! #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:04:37 +0000 @yrojjory @Julia_Brannon Hi to both of you and welcome to #storyappchat tonite! Nice of you to pop in! Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:04:54 +0000 Hi @roxiemunro -- welcome! #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:05:27 +0000 @yrojjory @DavidBFox tells me you are a sound expert! Great work on Annie's recent ebooks! #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:05:48 +0000 @roxiemunro Hi Roxie and welcome to #storyappchat tonite! Always a pleasure to have you with us :) Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:06:16 +0000 RT @brooks_jones: About ready to ramp up for tonite's #storyappchat: anybody else out there? Show of hands? Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:06:19 +0000 RT @brooks_jones: @yrojjory @DavidBFox tells me you are a sound expert! Great work on Annie's recent ebooks! #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:07:26 +0000 Tonite's #storyappchat is all about sharing our favorite sound and music resources for storybook apps and ebooks. Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:08:09 +0000 @brooks_jones @yrojjory has an awesome pro sound recording studio. You can see a photo at the bottom of http://t.co/cfkgPkWq0X #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:08:11 +0000 Thanks @DavidBFox. Lots of pics here: http://t.co/HnxOgO25dT #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:09:20 +0000 Does this chat include VO and/or narration? #Storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:09:23 +0000 RT @brooks_jones: Tonite's #storyappchat is all about sharing our favorite sound and music resources for storybook apps and ebooks. Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:09:48 +0000 @roxiemunro Sure, Roxie, anything (sound-related) goes tonite for #storyappchat! Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:09:49 +0000 @yrojjory What is that, an Oscar?? #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:10:52 +0000 Here! Also watching Game of Thrones. Sound is soooo important and often neglected in book apps. Most impt - great narration! #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:10:55 +0000 Sound in apps: something you don't notice much until it's done wrong, then you really notice it. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:10:59 +0000 RT @Julia_Brannon: Sound in apps: something you dont notice much until its done wrong, then you really notice it. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:11:30 +0000 Sound is such an important & overlooked aspect of apps; we bought original music for my hubby's app: http://t.co/7K4n7edPWF #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:11:42 +0000 RT @Julia_Brannon: Sound in apps: something you dont notice much until its done wrong, then you really notice it. #Storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:11:43 +0000 Sound is the invisible art. When we sound folks do our jobs well, no one notices. But if it's done wrong, people notice. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:11:49 +0000 RT @Julia_Brannon: Sound in apps: something you dont notice much until its done wrong, then you really notice it. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:12:00 +0000 They can't always identify what is wrong, but they definitely know something isn't right. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:12:06 +0000 @KarenRobertson @Julia_Brannon Right on--sound is very important for interactive media. Very noticeable when done wrong! #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:12:08 +0000

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RT Sound is the invisible art.When we sound folks do our jobs well, no one notices.But if its done wrong, people notice. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:12:45 +0000 @yrojjory I wanted to ask you about that. Why can we often tell audio wasn't professionally recorded? #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:12:46 +0000 Sounds enhance the action...really important! #Storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:12:59 +0000 @DavidBFox :-) Yes, it's the Oscar for #Pixar's short "For the Birds", which I worked on. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:13:00 +0000 @yrojjory Sometimes it "sounds" ok, but on some unconscious level it feels like it was an amateur affair... #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:13:17 +0000 @yrojjory I *LOVE* Pixar's "For the Birds" short! Good for you #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:13:56 +0000 @yrojjory And I guess you just happened to have it sitting out the day you took those photos :-) Well done! I loved that short #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:14:08 +0000 @DavidBFox Human hearing is a funny thing. It's more than just our ears. Our brains do a lot of invisible work. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:14:08 +0000 What are the best sites for buying music and soundfx for apps? #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:14:48 +0000 Sound reflects off lots of surfaces and arrives at our ears at different times. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:15:02 +0000 I've got a great guy here in NYC...a VO & musician & producer. Did two of our apps, one w/his VO. Reasonable $ too. #Storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:15:23 +0000 Our brain is actually able to differentiate between the arrival times and filter out the reflections and hear the principle. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:15:29 +0000 When you do word recognition or highlighting, VO is super important also. #Storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:16:06 +0000 Microphones can't do the filtering our brains do for us, so they "hear" all the reflections. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:16:18 +0000 The sound we hear in a recording is therefore the principle sound AND the reflections all jumbled together. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:16:38 +0000 RT @yrojjory: Sound reflects off lots of surfaces and arrives at our ears at different times. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:17:26 +0000 RT @yrojjory Microphones can't do the filtering our brains do for us, so they "hear" all the reflections. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:18:18 +0000 RT @Julia_Brannon: Sound in apps: something you don't notice much until it's done wrong, then you really notice it. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:18:24 +0000 For more about reflections and how our brains deal with all the sound information, learn about psychoacoustics. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:18:25 +0000 RT @yrojjory The sound we hear in a recording is therefore the principle sound AND the reflections all jumbled together. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:18:38 +0000 RT @yrojjory: For more about reflections and how our brains deal with all the sound information, learn about psychoacoustics. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:19:13 +0000 @yrojjory So a non-pro recording environment might sound fine live, until I hear it played back. Then it's not clean... #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:19:18 +0000 @yrojjory Then there's the difference between a pro actor and one who's... not. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:20:09 +0000 @DavidBFox Exactly. A pro recording environment is designed to handle the reflections and keep them away from the mics. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:20:11 +0000 RT @DavidBFox: @yrojjory a non-pro recording environment might sound fine live, til hear it played back. Then its not clean. #Storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:20:22 +0000 Biggest issues I see are: poor sound quality, music on short loop, non-native VO, no on/off settings ... #storyappchat #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:20:47 +0000 Even worse, the room you are playing sound back in affects the sound by at least 50%. So it needs controlling, too! #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:21:10 +0000 Psychoacoustics: the scientific study of sound perception http://t.co/iGJ3lHDLxV #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:21:16 +0000 RT @iPad_storytime: Biggest issues I see are: poor sound quality, music on short loop, non- native VO, no on/off settings... #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:21:19 +0000 RT @iPad_storytime: Biggest issues : poor sound quality, music on short loop, non-native VO, no on/off settings #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:21:44 +0000 RT @iPad_storytime: Biggest issues I see are: poor sound quality, music on short loop, non- native VO, no on/off settings ... #storyappchat #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:22:02 +0000 @brooks_jones right! You have to be able to shut off narration, music, sounds separately. #Storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:22:30 +0000 @brooks_jones Add to that any perceptible loops (sound effects or music), tired sound effects, bad mixing. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:22:38 +0000 @yrojjory So, next time I should record sound inside of big egg carton :-) #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:22:47 +0000

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@roxiemunro I don't think it's always necessary to give the user control of all of those settings, but sometimes it's good. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:23:21 +0000 @DavidBFox w/out pro VO, most common probs: non-native speaker, narrator too expressive/too flat, or child poorly articulating #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:23:33 +0000 When I think of good sound in kids' apps I think of @LoudCrowInc http://t.co/j1QoGM8Xx1 PopOut Tale of Peter Rabbit. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:23:43 +0000 @DavidBFox Egg cartons are not good for acoustics. Blame the Partridge Family TV show for that urban legend. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:23:58 +0000 @yrojjory By "perceptible loops" you mean a section of audio that you keep starting over again in a loop. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:24:17 +0000 #storyappchat From edu standpoint, sound should be supportive of story context. Misc sounds that don't relate to story may distract learners Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:24:45 +0000 @yrojjory but sometimes things can be annoying. Or you want to change the experience & just hear the sounds. Or the words. #Storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:25:04 +0000 @yrojjory Hah! #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:25:10 +0000 @brueckj23 Welcome to tonite's #storyappchat! Great to have you, as usual. :) Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:25:16 +0000 @DavidBFox Any loop that the user is easily able to perceive as looping. They become fatiguing, even if the user is unaware. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:25:17 +0000 RT @brueckj23: #storyappchat From edu standpoint, sound should be supportive of story context. Misc sounds that don't relate to story may distract learners Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:25:20 +0000 @roxiemunro I agree. But not always. Sometimes there is good reason to prevent the user from turning things off. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:26:12 +0000 @roxiemunro If things are annoying, then the sound wasn't done well. :-) #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:26:33 +0000 @yrojjory For loops, struggle between keeping size of file small vs. too short of a loop. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:26:55 +0000 RT @brueckj23: #storyappchat From edu standpoint, sound should be supportive of story context. Misc sounds that don't relate to story may distract learners Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:27:11 +0000 @yrojjory Yep, I understand ;-)) the creativity may be affected... #Storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:27:21 +0000 @yrojjory Cool - Psychoacoustics: http://t.co/uDaCC23sIb #storyappchat sure is increasing my vocabulary! Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:27:21 +0000 @roxiemunro More than just the creativity. Sometimes sounds are used to foreshadow or to help cue the user on activities. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:28:13 +0000 RT @yrojjory: @roxiemunro If things are annoying, then the sound wasnt done well. :-) Yes! There are some lousy apps! #Storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:28:28 +0000 RT @yrojjory: @roxiemunro More than just creativity. Sometimes sounds are used to foreshadow or help cue user on activities. #Storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:29:22 +0000 Think of the old Disney storybooks from the 70s. "You'll know it is time to turn the page when Tinkerbell goes like this!" #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:29:23 +0000 @roxiemunro What if Tinkerbell never made the sound because the user turned off the sound effects? #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:29:46 +0000 LOL! RT @yrojjory: @roxiemunro What if Tinkerbell never made the sound because the user turned off the sound effects? #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:30:18 +0000 Best compliment we had on our Middle School Confidential apps: the sound is subtle, but enhanced the immersiveness & story #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:30:47 +0000 @brueckj23 Sometimes the sounds help drive the story. In games we do this all the time. We use sound to help move the story. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:31:07 +0000 I usually kill the music before I turn off the sound effects in a book app or game. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:31:09 +0000 @yrojjory @DavidBFox Wow! "For the Birds" is my fave! http://t.co/Z9QIBJpZ7F :) #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:31:17 +0000 @iPad_storytime :-) Thanks! #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:31:43 +0000 RT @DavidBFox: Best compliment on our Middle School Confidential apps: sound is subtle, but enhanced the immersiveness & story #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:32:07 +0000 @yrojjory Makes sense ;-)) #Storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:32:31 +0000 @brooks_jones I bet many parents kill the SFX before killing the music. Unless the music makes irritating loops. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:32:37 +0000 Good narration is key when we @TheiMums review storybook apps #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:32:59 +0000 @brooks_jones Me too. I always mute music - it drives me crazy to have it playing while I'm writing review w/book app open. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:33:06 +0000 @swimfreak78 @TheiMums Welcome to #storyappchat tonite! So great to have you with us :) Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:33:26 +0000 @yrojjory I'd agree, but not all storybook apps for young readers do that. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:33:28 +0000

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Friend who works @ Apple Store/NYC told me that there are certain instore kids apps they hate due to annoying sound #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:33:35 +0000 @yrojjory I kill music before SFX (unless it is SFX of chewing - my biggest pet peeve). So many apps have *very* short loop. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:33:53 +0000 We don't have voice on our MSC apps, but @yrojjory sound partner, Julian Kwasneski, did most of the sound effects #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:34:08 +0000 @iPad_storytime As a sound guy, my goal is to make you want to keep the sound on. :-) #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:34:37 +0000 @yrojjory and in fact turn it WAY UP! :-) #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:35:18 +0000 Right on! RT @yrojjory: @iPad_storytime As a sound guy, my goal is to make you want to keep the sound on. :-) #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:35:22 +0000 Part of how we make the sound experience more enjoyable is by randomizing sounds so they don't get too repetitive. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:35:45 +0000 What about apps that have snippets from TV shows like Charlie Brown and Rudolph. Do you think they sound the same on a device #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:36:30 +0000 Sound for story apps isn't all that different than sound for games. They're both interactive audio. The same tools apply. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:36:56 +0000 Devs need to keep in mind that sound must be liked by parents as well as children. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:37:06 +0000 @yrojjory yes, when I send out my 60-second Roxie's Doors trailer, I tell people to make sure to turn UP the sound. #Storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:37:09 +0000 @yrojjory Randomizing sound is harder to do in an iBook. Easier in an app. Again, trade- offs in sound vs. app size. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:37:10 +0000 RT @Julia_Brannon: Devs need to keep in mind that sound must be liked by parents as well as children. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:37:32 +0000 @swimfreak78 They should sound fine on a device. Although those are such old shows that they sound old everywhere. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:37:38 +0000 RT @swimfreak78: Good narration is key when we @TheiMums review storybook apps #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:37:39 +0000 @swimfreak78 I'd rather no narration than poorly recorded or worst is non-native speaker for apps translated into English ... #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:37:52 +0000 RT @yrojjory: Sound for story apps isn't all that different than sound for games. Both interactive audio. Same tools apply. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:37:57 +0000 @DavidBFox Definitely harder in iBooks. But if you use iBooks Author and create HTML5 Widgets, it's pretty easy to do. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:38:18 +0000 RT @yrojjory: Sound for story apps isnt that different than sound for games. both are interactive audio..same tools apply. #Storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:38:26 +0000 RT @Julia_Brannon: Devs need to keep in mind that sound must be liked by parents as well as children. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:38:32 +0000 RT @iPad_storytime:Id rather no narration than poorly recorded or worst is non-native speaker for apps trans to English ... #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:39:09 +0000 RT @Julia_Brannon: Devs need to keep in mind that sound must be liked by parents as well as children. #Storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:39:36 +0000 @DavidBFox I have a tutorial and example that works well here on my @html5audio blog: http://t.co/WiS0nUo0PG #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:39:51 +0000 What do you think of authors narrating their apps?I don't mind it as a second option but think a professional narration a must #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:40:23 +0000 RT @yrojjory: @DavidBFox I have a tutorial and example that works well here on my @html5audio blog: http://t.co/TvlPXPSbd5 #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:40:50 +0000 Pt peeve - when word highlighting does not match narration. I know easier said than done but can be confusing for kids #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:41:11 +0000 @KarenRobertson If the author can read well, sure. If not, hire a professional! #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:41:20 +0000 @KarenRobertson right! Some kids/librarians LOVE to hear the author's VO, but yes, you need an alternative #Storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:41:50 +0000 @KarenRobertson Devs should get the best professional narration that they can afford. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:41:59 +0000 @swimfreak78 It's actually not all that hard. I know @DavidBFox implemented using SMIL for his book. I've done it with HTML5. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:42:13 +0000 @KarenRobertson agree. It is nice to hear the author too :) #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:42:14 +0000 Me too, I hate this! RT @swimfreak78: Pet peeve - when word highlighting does not match narration. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:42:25 +0000

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MT @yrojjory: I have an interactive audio tutorial that works well here on my @html5audio blog http://t.co/gQ1VkjAkeI #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:42:44 +0000 For Doors, I (author) did it in a professional studio, and we also have a professional VO guy roxiemunro doing it #Storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:43:10 +0000 RT @Julia_Brannon: @KarenRobertson Devs should get the best professional narration roxiemunro that they can afford. #Storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:43:26 +0000 RT @brooks_jones: Me too, I hate this! RT @swimfreak78: Pet peeve - when word roxiemunro highlighting does not match narration. #Storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:43:46 +0000 @yrojjory but we don't want to hear dogs barking or car horns in the background (unless DavidBFox they're part of the story)! #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:43:52 +0000 @yrojjory I didn't know there was a good HTML5 audio synch word highlighting solution. DavidBFox Makes sense. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:44:38 +0000 @DavidBFox Definitely not. Recording an occasional item outside a studio is doable. yrojjory Narration should be done right. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:44:46 +0000 Word highlighting is important! time-consuming for developer. Narrator has to do a good roxiemunro job. Dev cuts into pieces. #Storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:45:03 +0000 @DavidBFox I did it using the <audio> tag. Now it can be done with the Web Audio yrojjory API! #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:45:26 +0000 RT @Julia_Brannon: @KarenRobertson Devs should get the best professional narration DavidBFox that they can afford. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:45:30 +0000 @roxiemunro Actually, there's no need to cut into pieces. I make a spreadsheet that tracks yrojjory the start/stop times of each word. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:45:59 +0000 Whoo-hoo! RT @yrojjory: @DavidBFox I did it using the <audio> tag. Now it can be brooks_jones done with the Web Audio API! #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:46:18 +0000 @roxiemunro Then, I convert the spreadsheet into an assoc. array and test the playback yrojjory time against the items in the array. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:46:39 +0000 RT @DavidBFox: RT @Julia_Brannon: @KarenRobertson Devs should get the best HappyCamperBook professional narration that they can afford. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:47:14 +0000 roxiemunro @yrojjory maybe my guys do that...I know start/stop times are involved. #Storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:47:16 +0000 @roxiemunro You can always hire someone to find the start/stop times, since it takes yrojjory some effort. But it's not hard. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:47:27 +0000 @yrojjory We don't cut it up either. Used free Audacity to bookmark each word, then DavidBFox export timing to txt file, then to Excel #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:47:45 +0000 @roxiemunro It should be possible to automate, too, although not as accurately. I know yrojjory there are a few solutions like that. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:48:10 +0000 RT @yrojjory: @iPad_storytime As a sound guy, my goal is to make you want to keep the iPad_storytime sound on. :-) #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:48:24 +0000 I actually got my start/stop time idea from looking at your code, @DavidBFox. :-p yrojjory #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:48:45 +0000 @yrojjory Hah! Happy to share my Excel spreadsheet with you too. I paste in the timings, DavidBFox then pull out the finished SMIL code #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:49:41 +0000 One of my fave parts of building our app was finding the right voice actor and hearing it HappyCamperBook come to life. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:49:42 +0000 @HappyCamperBook Hey, thanks for coming in for #storyappchat tonite! Glad you could brooks_jones join us :) Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:50:18 +0000 @HappyCamperBook Yes! That's very exciting when you hear the perfect actor performing DavidBFox your characters! #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:50:34 +0000 @DavidBFox Thanks, but I'm happier working in HTML5. My code works well. Need to yrojjory spend some time updating it to Web Audio API. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:50:49 +0000 DavidBFox DavidBFox yrojjory DavidBFox yrojjory brooks_jones iPad_storytime DavidBFox @yrojjory After you do, I'd love to see your HTML5 Web Audio API example. #storyappchat @DavidBFox Sure thing! #storyappchat So, I know we went in a tangent from what we thought we'd be talking about... where can you get great free/royalty free sound #storyappchat @DavidBFox I recommend buying a handheld recorder, such as the Zoom H2n or H4n. Everything you record is fresh and yours! #storyappchat @DavidBFox True, but we could all quickly share our favorite resources before #storyappchat is over, right? :) People often ask me for resources for narration, music, SFX & translation services - any favorite sites? #storyappchat @yrojjory I know you have a huge library of sfx... for those who don't, any recommendations on where they can get good sounds? #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:51:41 +0000 Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:52:22 +0000 Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:52:24 +0000 Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:53:19 +0000 Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:53:29 +0000 Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:53:35 +0000 Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:53:36 +0000

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I usually check http://t.co/qrfYiiPeOd first, since I'm a member there. They have royalty- free music and SFX too #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:54:43 +0000 @DavidBFox There are also things like FreeSound, but I rarely use them, since I prefer to record new material if I can. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:54:48 +0000 @yrojjory sometimes you just can't record the sound you want (needed a rooster sound recently), so other solutions needed #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:54:57 +0000 @DavidBFox Building this app has helped us realize that people were meant to collaborate! Voice is such a huge part! #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:55:23 +0000 @DavidBFox There are LOTS of roosters around Fairfax! ;-) #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:55:41 +0000 @HappyCamperBook So much more fun to collaborate with creative experts on a project than going it alone, too #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:56:10 +0000 @DavidBFox I usually point people to FreeSound and SoundDogs. Commercial libraries are expensive & more than most folks need. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:56:40 +0000 @yrojjory yeah, but they don't cry (needed a crying rooster) :-) #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:56:48 +0000 RT @DavidBFox: @HappyCamperBook So much more fun to collaborate with creative experts on a project than going it alone #Storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:56:52 +0000 @DavidBFox But hiring a sound designer may be a cost effective balance, despite seeming expensive. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:57:29 +0000 @brooks_jones Thanks! My personal twitter is @tarabenwell. Figured I should start an account for app as launch is coming soon. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:57:33 +0000 @DavidBFox You get original sounds and someone else shoulders the burden of making it sound like you have imagined it. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:57:58 +0000 @HappyCamperBook Oh, hi Tara, didn't recognize you :-) #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:59:12 +0000 RT @yrojjory: @DavidBFox But hiring a sound designer may be a cost effective balance, despite seeming expensive. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:59:19 +0000 @yrojjory totally agree. We've gone that route and it was enormously helpful to have a sound designer on our projects #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 02:00:00 +0000 @yrojjory You've been so helpful! How about giving your website info and a brief plug about what you do #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 02:00:38 +0000 @DavidBFox Many sound designers (myself included) charge "per effect". If your total needs aren't large, it won't be pricey. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 02:00:58 +0000 RT @DavidBFox: @yrojjory Youve been so helpful! How about giving your website info and a brief plug about what you do #Storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 02:01:31 +0000 We picked an older male actor. Wanted a "Princess Bride" feel to it. Hope the kids love it. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 02:01:43 +0000 RT @yrojjory: Many sound designers (me included) charge "per effect". If your total needs aren't large, it won't be pricey. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 02:01:44 +0000 @DavidBFox My name is Jory. I have a studio called Studio Jory. I've been working professionally in sound for 20 years. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 02:02:02 +0000 Website is http://t.co/uKsmemfIDs. I've been doing interactive audio since 1999, when I was hired at LucasArts. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 02:02:39 +0000 @yrojjory Recent projects include The Walking Dead: The Game from @telltalegames and @agens Three Billy Goats Gruff. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 02:03:49 +0000 @yrojjory Thanks for helping answer questions during tonite's #storyappchat! Such a treat to have a real expert sitting in :) Mon, 10 Jun 2013 02:03:53 +0000 RT @yrojjory: Website is http://t.co/uKsmemfIDs. I've been doing interactive audio since 1999, when I was hired at LucasArts. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 02:03:53 +0000 @Julia_Brannon As a mom I am always telling my son to turn the sound off the iPad. (Not for stories, but games usually.) #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 02:04:09 +0000 @brooks_jones My pleasure! I'm always available as a resource...and for hire! ;-) #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 02:04:30 +0000 @Julia_Brannon We kept that in mind when building our app. Figured we *might add more sound in a future build. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 02:05:17 +0000 @yrojjory Since Twitter screwed up my website URL, here it is again: http://t.co/uKsmemfIDs #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 02:05:27 +0000 I loved tonight's chat! I learned a lot about sound. Nice! Thanks @yrojjory for dropping in and being our surprise guest host! #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 02:05:34 +0000 Thanks also to the rest of you who came in to comment and ask ?s during tonite's #storyappchat. Transcript tomorrow: http://t.co/rv3YlGdhLB Mon, 10 Jun 2013 02:05:46 +0000 RT @yrojjory: @yrojjory Since Twitter screwed up my website URL, here it is again: http://t.co/GXVnuEO4KS #Storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 02:06:11 +0000 @DavidBFox Thanks for having me! #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 02:06:11 +0000

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Sound Resources
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Thanks for the great chat everyone -- great topic. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 02:06:50 +0000 Wonderful chat - thank you so much to @brooks_jones, @DavidBFox & @yrojjory for iPad_storytime being a spontaneous host - you rock! #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 02:06:54 +0000 And as always, I am perpetually indebted to @iPad_storytime and @DavidBFox, who serve brooks_jones as AWESOME co-hosts for #storyappchat week after wk! Mon, 10 Jun 2013 02:07:13 +0000 roxiemunro Great chat tonight...as always, learned so much! Thanks! #Storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 02:07:20 +0000 RT @yrojjory: @yrojjory Since Twitter screwed up my website URL, here it is again: DavidBFox http://t.co/uKsmemfIDs #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 02:07:41 +0000 Thank you co-hosts @brooks_jones and @iPad_storytime! And of course @yrojjory! DavidBFox #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 02:08:46 +0000 If anyone has blogged tips on launching a new app, please tweet me some links! HappyCamperBook #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 02:11:09 +0000 @roxiemunro Me too - #storyappchat is my favorite hour of the week - such great info & iPad_storytime networking. Thanks for being a regular! #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 02:12:05 +0000 We'll take next Sunday (Father's Day) off, but will return on 6/23 for #storyappchat! Have a brooks_jones great couple of weeks, ya'll! Mon, 10 Jun 2013 02:12:20 +0000 .@HappyCamperBook We have over 20 posts about "marketing kids apps" on our blog: iPad_storytime http://t.co/3y0M4To1FJ Hope this helps! #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 02:13:07 +0000 RT @brooks_jones: We'll take next Sunday (Father's Day) off, but will return on 6/23 for DavidBFox #storyappchat! Have a great couple of weeks, ya'll! Mon, 10 Jun 2013 02:14:04 +0000 BTW, Karen Robertson and I are getting together next Fri-Sunday ... Presenting@ 21st roxiemunro Century Children's Nonfiction Conference #Storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 02:14:17 +0000 roxiemunro Here's the link http://t.co/cHRq6woiRe #Storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 02:15:43 +0000 Excited about finding #storyappchat. Have so much to learn before launch of my iPad tarabenwell stories @HappyCamperBook #gogreen Mon, 10 Jun 2013 02:16:41 +0000 RT @roxiemunro: Here's the link for the 21st Century Children's Nonfiction Conference brooks_jones http://t.co/7gLnxPBFEg #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 02:18:24 +0000 HappyCamperBook @iPad_storytime Thank you! #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 02:26:40 +0000 @tarabenwell Keeping in touch w/ #storyappchat (and reading past transcripts) can be a iPad_storytime great resource as you launch. http://t.co/5ofDjwpA0z Mon, 10 Jun 2013 02:32:38 +0000 @iPad_storytime Thanks again. Found a really useful post on your site already and have tarabenwell shared with my pub team. #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 02:38:18 +0000 @roxiemunro My priority after Chicago's #ALA13 is to get to the East Coast to present ... iPad_storytime I'd love to meet you in person! #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 02:40:10 +0000 For #CCS, students must read nonfiction & respond thoughtfully. 50%-70% of in-school iPad_storytime reading: http://t.co/5CHeJA8F4O #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 02:41:37 +0000 @swimfreak78 ... we would never listen to poor articulation for an adult audio-book so iPad_storytime why would this be okay for children? #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 02:52:20 +0000 @brooks_jones #storyappchat Thanks. You too. I'll catch up on today's chat via the technobayo transcript as usual. Thanks for the weekly mails. Mon, 10 Jun 2013 03:46:19 +0000 HappyCamperBook Have you guys talked about ideal fonts (sizes and styles) at all? #storyappchat Mon, 10 Jun 2013 14:50:12 +0000