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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF GEORGIA SAVANNAH DIVISION LISA T. JACKSON, Plaintiff, vs. PAULA DEEN, PAULA DEEN 4:12-CV-0 139 ENTERPRISES, LLC, THE LADY & SONS, LLc, THE LADY ENTERPRISES, INC., EARL W. BUBBA HERS, and UNCLE BUBBA'S SEAFOOD and OYSTER HOUSE, INC.. Defendants. CIVIL ACTION NO.

Deposition of BRANDON BRANCH, taken by counsel for the Plaintiff, pursuant to notice and agreement, before Rachael Miller, Certified Court Reporter, at 218 West State Street, Savannah, Georgia, February 26. 2013. at 10:38 am.

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BRANDON BRANCH, 1 2 having been first duly sworn, was examined and 3 testified as follows: EXAMINATION 4 5 BY MR. BILLIPS: Ci. Please state your full legal name. 6 A. Phillip Brandon Branch. 7 8 0. And, Mr. Branch, where and in what 9 capacity are you presently employed? A. With Paula Deen Enterprises. 10 0. Okay. What do you do there? 11 A. I am Paula's assistant and creative 12 director for the company. 13 14 0. Okay. Tell me first about the creative IS director aspect of yourjob. What does that 16 entail? A. I oversee the magazine. I work with the 17 IS furniture line. Anything visual the public sees. I oversee the TV show and photo shoots. 19 0. And are you present at all of the lv 20 21 shows and photo shoots and things of that sort? 22 A Yes. For the most part 0. Okay. How long have you worked for Ms. 23 24 Deen? A. Nine years. 25 Page 8 I videos that have ever been put together? 2 A. Yes. 0. Okay. How many? 3 4 A Ijust know of one. Q. Okay. And was that the one that was the 5 6 subject of some litigation? 7 A. Yes. a. Okay. And did you see that video? Have a 9 you seen it? 10 A Yes. II Q. Were there - were there jokes and 12 language that were inappropriate for a 13 famHy-oriented show? 14 A. I guess it depends on the family. 15 0. 1 suppose it does. 16 MR. FRANKLIN: And what do you mean by a 17 family? IS MR. BIWPS: Excuse me? 19 MR. FRANKLIN: What do you mean by a 20 family? 21 MR. BIWPS: A family-oriented show. 22 MR. FRANKLIN: Okay, Once again. I 23 object to the form of family oriented Is that 24 husband and wife? Is that grandpa and grandma? 25 BY MR. fILLIPS:

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1 0. Okay. Are - so have you started 2 writing a tell-all book yet? 3 A No. 0. Do you have an agent? 4 MR. FRANKLIN: Are you soliciting? 5 MR. BILLIPS: No. 6 7 BY MR. BIWPS: 0. I do know one, so... 8 During the show - strike. The shows 9 10 are filmed, if I understand correctly, in front of 11 a live audience; is that right? A No. 12 0. They're not. So they're filmed and then 13 14 edited and then the shows are - are not live, 15 correct? 16 A. Correct 0. All right Does she ever show or film 17 18 shows in front of a live audience, to your 19 knowledge? 20 A. In the past she has. 21 0. Okay. As the creative director, did you 22 have any involvement in putting together an 23 outtake video? A. No. 24 0. All right A re you aware of any outtake 25

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I 0. Was it inappropriate for children? 2 MR. FRANKLIN: And once again. I don't 3 know what age children, but you can answer. These 4 are laers objecting talking back and forth. No S one listens to us. 6 THE WITNESS. I guess. 7 BY MR. BIWPS: Q. What kind ofjokes were on this outtake 8 9 video? 10 A 1 do not remember. 11 0. You don't. You have to see it to know. 12 conct? 13 A. Yes. 14 0. Were thereJokes about vaginas? IS A Yes. 16 0. Were there jokes about oral sex? A I don't recall that 17 18 (1 Do you recall any - Aft Deen engaging 19 in any depictions of oral sex with fruit? 20 A No. I don't recall that 21 0. Have you ever seen herdoso22 A No. 23 0. - on-. when filming her show? 24 ANo. 1 25 0. Okay. Did you review this - or who was

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responsible for putting this outtake video together? A. I do not know. 3 0. Would that not ordinarily be something 4 5 within your span of conlroll A. No. 6 C1 What if anc roiedo you have as 7 8 creative director with the actual show? MR, FRANKLIN: Theshowyoure talking 9 10 about? MR, BIWPS: The Paula Deen cooking Ii 12 show. MR. FRANKLIN: The whole shebang or are 13 4 you talking about a specific thing? MR. B1WPS: I've never watched her 15 16 show, so I'm going to have to learn from him. MR, FRANKLIN Okay. You're missing 17 8 some good television. 19 BY MR. BIWPS: 0. Okay. Does Paula Deen have more than 20 21 one 1V show? 22 A Na 23 0. Okay. Then when I refer to the Paula 24 DeenlVshow, do you know what rm talking about? 25 A. Yes, 2

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A Yes. 1 2 0. And you haven't looked at that video in 3 how long? 4 A. At least three years. 0. Okay. Now, how familiar are - familiar 5 6 are you with members of the Deen family, other 7 than Paula? 8 A. Very familiar. 9 0. Okay. Are you —doyou consider 10 yourself to be close to them? II A Yes. 72 0. Do you think that you know them pretty 73 well? 14 A. Yes, 0. All right. How well do you know Bubba 15 16 Hiers? 77 A I would say pretty well. 0. Okay. Now, we've had testimony in this 18 19 case that you told an employee I think of-if 20 I'm correct of Uncle Bubba's that you had heard Mr. Hiers use the word nigger. 21 22 MR. FRANKLIN: Object to the form of 23 that. I believe it was Libby Summers who was not 24 an employee of Uncle Bubba's. 25 MR. BIWPS: Okay. Libby Summers, I

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0. What, if any, role do you have in the I 2 productIon, direction or anything else? 3 A. On the show I'm the prop stylist So I 4 choose the dishes, work with the clothing stylist, 5 do the flowers, do the food beauties, pick the 6 napkins, utensils. 7 0. Okay. And you're there for the filming 8 of the show? 9 A. Correct. 0. During the filming of the show, does Ms. 10 Deen use sexually suggestive language? Ii 12 A. No. 0. Does she ever tell jokes that are 13 14 sexually suggestive? A. Occasionally. 15 0. Okay. When you say occasionally, what 16 17 frequency do you mean? 18 A. 1 would say maybe once a year. 19 C1 Once a year. How many sexuay 20 suggestive jokes were there on this outtake video? 21 A. I don't remember. 22 0. Okay. Was it more than one? 23 A. I really don't remember. 24 0. So you just have no idea, you'd have to 25 see the video?

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I don't remember where she worked. 2 BY MR. BILLIPS 3 CL Libby Summers - that you had told Libby 4 Summers you heard Uncle Bubba use the word nigger? 5 MR. FRANKLIN.' And I'll object to you 6 asking him to comment on the testimony of someone 7 else. Having said that, you can answer. 8 THE WITNESS: It never happened. 9 BY MR. BILUPS: 0. Never happened? 10 11 A. Never happened. 12 0. Has, to your knowledge, Uncle Bubba ever 13 used the word nigger? 14 A Not In my presence. 15 0. Okay. Would you be surprised to learn 16 that Mr. Hiers has actually admitted doing so at 17 Work In front of his managers? 18 MR, FRANKLIN: Object to the form of 19 that. I think it incorrectly characterizes 20 testimony saying managers, but you can answer. 21 BY MR. BIWPS 22 0. You can answer. A Repeat the question. 23 24 0. Would you be surprised to learn that Mr. 25 Hers has actually admitted to using the word

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I nigger at work in front of his managerial - some 2 of his managerial staff? 3 A Yes 0. And do you know Libby Summers at all? 4 A. y, 5 0. How well do you know her? 6 A We worked together for maybe two years. 7 C). Okay. And what was her job? 8 A. She was food stylist 9 0, Okay. Is there any reason why you and 10 11 Ms. Summers would have been discussing Bubba 12 Hiers? MR. FRANKLIN: Objection, You're 13 14 assuming that there was such a discussion. MR. BILLIPS: No. I'm actually not 15 16 MR. ERANKUN.• Well, she says they've 17 talked about this doesn't mean there necessarily 18 was. MR. BIWPS: I didn't suggest by my 19 20 question that there was. MR. FRANKLIN: Okay. 21 22 MR. BILLIPS: I asked whether there was 23 any reason that there would have been. 24 MR. FRANKLIN: Okay. You can answer. 25 THE WITNESS: No.

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I can answer. 2 THE WITNESS: No. 3 BY MR. BIWPS: 4 0. Okay. Is there any reason that Mr. 5 Gerard would have had that you are are of to communicate with you any - any reason within the 6 7 scope of any legal Issue that you can think of 8 that Mr. Gerard would have had to communicate with 9 you? 10 A. No. 0. Okay. Or for that matter for you to 11 12 communicate with Mr. Gerard. Would there have 73 been any reason for you to communicate with him on 14 any matters In the scope of his job as a lawyer? A. Yes. 15 0. Is there any reason for you to 16 17 communicate with Mr. Gerard regarding his scope as 18 a lawyer other than ln preparation foryour 19 deposition today? 20 MR, FRANKLIN: He has not - well, 21 object to the form of that. I think he said he's 22 done nothing in the preparation of the defense of 23 this lawsuit other than perhaps meeting with me. 24 BY MR. BIWPS: 25 0. Okay. What if anything, did you do to

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1 BY MR, B1LUPS: 1 prepare for your testimony today? 0. Okay. Ms. Summers 2 A. For - say that again. 2 MR. FRANKLIN: I object I don't know 3 0. What, if anything, did you do to prepare 3 4 how he would know if there's any reason if I call 4 yourself to give testimony in this deposition? S Joe or you call Joe. But having said that the A. Nothing. 5 6 objections there 6 0. Okay. MR. BILLIPS: It really is okay if you 7 7 MR. FRANKLIN: Well, other than - other B Just object to the form. 8 than 9 BY MR. BIWPS: 9 MR. BILLIPS: Other than meeting with 10 0. Now, have you had any role whatsoever in TO counsel. Ii assisting any - Ms. Deen or any of the Deen 71 MR. FRANKLIN: Apparently talking to me 12 companies with regard to anything having to do 12 means nothing. Thank you. I know where lam. 13 with this lawsuit 13 Chopped liver. 74 MR. FRANKLIN: Object to the Form. 14 BY MR. BIWPS: 15 BY MR, BIWPS: 15 0. Now, as Paula's assistant what do you 16 0. -other than appearing here today to 16 do? 17 give testimony? Ti A From waking her up in the morning to 18 A No. TB packing her clothes for a trip to traveling on a 19 0. Okay. Have you ever had any reason to 19 trip with her, overseeing her home, getting her 20 - do you know who Jim Gerard is? 20 from point A to B. 21 A Yes, 21 0. Okay. So you pretty much take care of 22 0. Okay. Have you ever had" reason to 22 every menial detail of her life? I'm not saying 23 consult with Jim Gerard on any matter relating to 23 it's limited to that but your job includes taking 24 your employment with Paula Deen? 24 care of the menial details of her life so she can 25 MR. FRANKLIN: Object to the form. You focus on whatever It is that she does? 125

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Page 18 MR. FRANKLIN Object to the form to the 2 extent of menial. I'm not sure what that 3 encompasses or doesn't. If he understands, he can 4 answer. THE WITNESS: Yes. 5 6 BY MR. BILLIPS: 7 0. Do you know Lisa Jackson? 8 A. Yes. 9 0. Okay. And how well do you know Lisa I legal talk.

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0. Do you know Karl Schumacher? 1 2 A Yes. 0. Has Mr. Schumacher ever spoken to you 3 4 about any problems that he felt existed with Mr. 5 Hers? 6 A No. 0. Has he ever communicated with you about 7 8 any concerns he had about Mr. Hiers or any other 9 members of the family taking money from Ms. Deen 10 to which they were not entitled 11 A No. 12 0. - or which they had not earned? 13 A No. 14 0. Okay. Has Mr. Schumacher ever IS communicated with you at all about anything 16 relating to the operation of the business? 17 A Na 0. Has Mr. Schumacher ever asked you to 18 79 pass messages or information along to Ms. Deen? A. Occasionally, yes. 20 21 0. What kind of thing would Mr. Schumacher ask you to pass along to Ms. Deen? 22 MR. FRANKLIN: Object to the form. 23 24 BY MR. BILIJPS: a. You can answer. 1

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0. Have you ever been involved in a lawsuit? A. No. 3 4 0. Ever sued anybody, ever been sued? 5 A. No. Q. Never tiled bankruptcy? 6 7 A No. 0. Are you married? 8 9 A. No. (1 Have you ever been arrested or otherwise 10 11 charged with a crime? 12 A No, 13 0. Without disclosing for the moment any 14 specifics, first have you ever spoken to Jim 15 Gerard? MR. FRANKLIN: Ever? 16 17 MR. BIWPS: Yeah. MR. FRANKLIN: Object to the form. 18 19 THE WITNESS: Yes. lye spoken to him. 20 BY MR. BIWPS: 27 0. Have you ever communicated with him via 22 email? 23 A No. I don't believe. 0. Okay. When you spoke to Mr. Gerard was 24 25 it about something relating to the corporation?

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1 BY MR. BILLJFS THE WITNESS it could be various I 0. Mr. Branch. has Mr. Gerard ever advised 2 things. 2 3 you on any legal issues whatsoever? 3 BY MR. BILLIPS A. No. 4 4 0. Give me an example. C1 Okay. Has he ever questioned you on any 5 5 A She's not feeling great today. 6 legal issues whatsoever? (1 Doesn't seem very private or personal. 6 1 A No. 7 A She doesn't feel like going to a book 0. Has he ever questioned you regarding any 8 8 signing today. 9 of the claims of discrimination brought by Ms. 9 0. Okay. What is the most - what would 10 Jackson? 10 you consider to be the most private or personal 11 A. No. 11 thing that she's confided in you about? 12 0. Has anyone - other than Mr. Franklin 12 MR. FRANKLIN: Object to the form. How 13 today, has anyone ever asked you for Information 13 does he know what's the most private? 14 regarding any information you might know about Ms. 14 MR. BILUPS: I'm asking what he would 15 Jackson's claims? 15 consider the most private and personal thing. 16 A. No one's asked me. MR. FRANKLIN; Once again, I'll object 16 0. Okay. When Ms. - has anyone ever asked 17 17 to speculation. 18 you about any issues relating to Lisa Jackson at 18 THE WITNESS: I haven't a clue. 19 all? MR. B1LLIPS: Give it your best shot. 19 20 A. No one's questioned me. 20 MR. FRANKLIN: Object to the form. 21 Q. Okay. Have you ever volunteered 21 We're not here for best shots. 22 Information regarding Ms. Jackson? 22 THE WITNESS; I really can't give 23 A. No. 23 anything. 24 0. Okay. Have you ever made any complaints 24 BY MR. B1LLIPS: 25 to Ms. Deen or Mr. Hiers, anyone in the managerial 0. So y'aiI aren't- she doesn't really 25

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MR, FRANKLIN: Object again to the form MR. FRANKLIN: My objection stands. 1 1 2 asking him sitting here. MR. BIWPS: Your objection is noted. 2 MR. BILUP5 My Ford, Counsel, 3 3 You can answer. MR. FRANKLIN: You don't have to call me 4 THE WITNESS: You know, she'll ask me do 4 5 your lord. Look, the way it works - let me say 5 you think I look fat in this outfit? Thafs a 6 something. 6 personal thing, 7 MR. BILUPS: You asked questions in 7 BY W. BIWPS: B exactly the same manner of the plaintiff during a Okay. Has she ever talked to you about 8 9 any concerns that she had regarding members of her 9 her deposition, okay, mostly without us trying to 10 step all over your record and make spurious 10 fniily, for example? It objections. So if you would like to object to the MR. FRANKLIN: Once again. I object to Ti form and asked and answered. 12 form12 MR. FRANKLIN: Ijust did, 13 MR. LAKE: Objection. Asked and 13 MR. BILUPS: - every time 14 answered. 14 MR. BIWPS: You can answer. 15 MR. FRANKLIN: Let mejust tell you 15 MR. FRANKLIN: Again. 16 something. 16 THE WITNESS: Repeat the question. 17 MR. BIWPS: - go ahead. I am 17 18 BY MR. BIWPS: 18 thoroughly familiar with the way It works. Q. Has she ever spoken to you about any MR. FRANKLIN: You ask the question, I 19 19 20 concerns that she has regarding any of the members 20 have an opportunity to object, and then he 21 of herfamilyl 21 answers. And that's the way it works and thafs MR. LAKE: Same objection. 22 the way ifs going to work. 22 MR. FRANKLiN: Objection to form. Same 23 MR. 811111'S: All right 23 24 objection. Any concerns. 24 MR. FRANKUN: I don't need a lecture THE WITNESS: Yes, she has. 25 from you on the rules of evidence or on anything 25 Page 31 Page 33

I else. This ain't my first trip to the rodeo and I BY MR. BIWPS. 2 hopefully won't be my last. 2 0. Okay. Tell me what— lets take them MR. B1WPS: You know what I don't 3 3 one at a time. What, if any, concerns has Ms. 4 think there is anybody In this room or in this 4 Deen expressed to you about her Sons? S building who has ever ridden anything in a rodeo. MR. FRANKLIN: Object to the form. Any 5 6 Let's just get off this - this issue. We're all 6 concerns. 7 experienced. We all know what we're doing. THE WITNESS: She would like more 7 MR. FRANKLIN: I don't need a lecture. 8 8 grandlcids. MR. BILUPS I don't need a speech. If 9 9 BY MR. BILLIPS: 10 you want to object to the form (1 Llh-huh. Does she have some reason to 10 MR. FRANKLIN: Ijust did. I I believe she's not going to have more grandkids - TI 12 MR. BIWPS: - object to the form 12 MR. FRANKLIN; Object to that You're 13 MR. FRANKLIN: Ijust did. 13 asking him for speculation. 14 MR. BIWPS: - without giving a 14 BY MR. BILUPS: 15 speech. 15 0. - or is It shejust wants more of them? 16 MR. FRANKLIN: Ijust did. Nowaskyour 16 MR. FRANKLIN: Object to the form. 17 next question. 17 BY MR. BIWPS: 18 18 BY MR. BILLIPS: 0. You can answer the question. 19 0. Now, Mr. Branch, is the only thing Paula 19 A. Shejust wants more. 20 Deen has ever talked to you about concerning her 20 0. Okay. Anything else? 21 Sons IS her desire for more grandchildren? 21 MR. FRANKLIN: Object to the form. A. No. 22 22 THE WITNESS: No. 23 23 BY MR. BIILIPS: 0. What else has she talked to you about 24 0. That's the only thing she ever talked to 24 concerning 25 you about her— her sons; Is that correct? 1 25 MR. FRANKLIN: Object to the form. Tom Crites & Associates International, Inc. crltesintL corn

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I MR. FRANKLIN: Object again to the form. BY MR. BPLUPS I 2 BY MR. BILUPS: 0. - her sons? 2 3 0. You can answer. A She would like for Bobby to settle down 3 4 MR. FRANKLIN: Can P have a standing 4 and find a wire. 5 objection? I don't want to waive something by not 0. Okay. Has she ever expressed any 5 6 objecting to ft. 6 concerns about whether Bobby is gay? MR. BIWPS: You may have a standing 7 MR. FRANKLIN: Object to that That Is 7 8 objection to every question I ask. 8 outrageous. That has absolutely - that's an MR. FRANKLIN: Every time you open your 9 9 Insulting question and you did it yesterday. 10 mouth I can have a standing objection without MR. BILLJPS: Why? Why is it insulting? 10 Ii making it? ljust want to make the record clear. MR. FRANKLIN: What on earth does that 11 MR. BIWPS: You may. 12 12 have to do with anything involved in this case? MR, FRANKLIN: Then it will be a 13 13 You asked Dustin that 14 standing objection on form unless 1 elaborate on 14 MR. BIWPS Yes. 15 that MR. FRANKLIN: - yesterday. And now 15 16 MR. BIWPS: That's 16 you're asking - that is Insulting. Its 17 MR. FRANKLIN: I'm not here trying to be Improper. 17 18 an obstructionist. MR. BIWPS: Why is it insulting? 18 MR. BILUPS: That's perfectly fine. 19 MR. FRANKLIN: Fm not going to —if 19 20 BY MR. BPLLIPS: 20 you cant figure that out, then you've got a 0. What other concerns, if any, has Ms. 21 problem, my friend. What does someone's sexual 21 22 Deen expressed about her sons? 22 orientation in the Deen family have to do with 23 A. I can't think of any other things she's 23 this? 24 expressed about them other than just love. 24 MR. BIWPS: Well, you know, it depends 0. Okay. What if any. concerns has Ms. 25 on whether I t goes to his relationships with other 25

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I witnesses, other employees, other managers. It 2 goes to bias. There's a whole lot of ways where 3 it might MR. FRANKLIN: Welt we'll see where 4 S this goes and I don't think you're going to like 6 it 7 BY MR. BILUPS: C1 Has Ms. Deen ever expressed any concerns B 9 about whether Bobby is gay? 10 MR. FRANKLIN: And objection. 17 BY MR. BIWPS: 12 0. You can answer. 13 A No. 14 0. Okay. Do you have any idea whether 15 Bobby is gay? MR. FRANKLIN: And objection. 16 MR. LAKE: Objection. Il MR. FRANKLIN: Once again, this is 78 19 outrageous. 20 BY MR. BILLIPS: 21 Q. You can answer. A. No. 22 0. Okay. What else has Ms. Deen 23 24 expressed - what other concerns has she expressed 25 to you about her sons?

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1 Deen expressed about her brother? A Nothing really. 2 Q. Okay. Did she telIyouwfen he stole 3 4 $30,000 From thefrjointlyowned restaurant? A. No. 5 6 0. Were you aware that he had taken money 7 to which he was not entitled from the restaurant? 8 A. No. 0. Is this the first you're hearing of 9 10 that? II A. Yes. 12 Cl. Does she ever talk to you about money 13 issues? A. Yes. 14 Q. Okay. Now, one allegation in this case 15 16 is that P. Jackson was present during planning 17 the wedding. And I don't remember who It was for 18 whether It was Bubba's wedding or whose. Were you 19 involved in the planning of any weddings A. Yes. 20 21 0. - with Ms. Jackson? 22 A. Yes. 23 0. Okay. Whose wedding was It? A. Bubba's. 24 0. Bubbas. Okay. That s what I was 25
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I. the undersigned, have read the 3 4 foregoing transcript and with the exception of S any corrections specified on the attached 6 correction sheet attest it constitutes a true and 7 correct transcription of my testimony given at the 8 time and place specified therein. 9 10 11 12 (Signed): Brandon Branch 13 14 15 WITNESS: 16 17 18 19 DATE20 21 22 23 24 25 Page

3 STATE OF GEORGIA 4 COUNTY OF CHATHAM: 5 I hereby certify that the foregoing 6 7 transcript was taken down, as stated in 8 the caption and the questions and 9 answers thereto were reduced to 10 typewriting under my direction; that the ii foregoing pages 1 through 47 represent a 12 true, complete, and correct transcript 13 of the evidence given upon said hearing. 14 and I further certify that I am not of kin or counsel to the parties in the 16 case; am not in the regular employ of 17 counsel for any of said parties; nor am 18 Tin anywise interested in the result of said case. 20 This, the 10th day of March, 2013.
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