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by JoeBeau on July 4, 2011 Table of Contents AA Battery Powered "Tesla Coil" . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Intro: AA Battery Powered "Tesla Coil" . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Step 1: Parts and Pieces . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Step 2: Dismantle the Zapper . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Step 3: Prepare the Zapper Circuit . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Step 4: Spark Gap . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Step 5: Flyback Transformer . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Step 6: Putting it All Together . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Step 7: Top Load and Mounting the Circuit . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Related Instructables . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 2 2 4 4 5 6 7 8 9

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cheap. Toggle Switch: The switch on the board of the bug zapper can be difficult to use. as it does not utilize a resonant air-core transformer or operate at high frequencies. Don't kill yourself looking for an old non-rectified design. Proper safety precautions should always be followed. but for bigger sparks more can be used. 2xAA battery holder: Can be purchased from Radioshack or the bug zapper handle can be used to hold the batteries. The design of the spark gap can vary. any suggestions for improvements are greatly appreciated. since there are no benefits of it for this circuit. For mine. the other a nut over top the hole. solder and a soldering iron as well as other general tools are needed. so a bolt with an acorn nut on the end can be threaded through.Intro: AA Battery Powered "Tesla Coil" First things first: DISCLAIMER: I am not responsible for any injuries or property damage that may befall you from following this instructable. and because of the design of the bug zapper circuit. Of course. Optional: Additional Capacitors: Should be rated for at least 1. Step 1: Parts and Pieces There aren't many parts to this build. and most can easily by scrounged from old TVs and other electronics or be bought for cheap. Seeing as this is my first. The Bug zapper already contains one. and relatively safe project. That out of the way. a new switch is recommended. There are probably other types of devices very similar. and wire for connecting everything together http://www. Random assorted hardware: This circuit requires a spark gap to be constructed. Flyback transformer: Any flyback transformer will do. Because of this. One had a ball bearing soldered to it.5 centimeter arcs to ground. Pen body or other plastic tube: To elevate the top load Top load: I used a ball bearing. but I would recommend finding the racquet pictured to insure the internal circuitry is the same. The following is needed: Bug zapper racquet: This can be purchased from Ocean State Job Lot for about 5 bucks. and is nifty for fending of mosquitos or high voltage experiments. Just go easy on me. High voltage electricity can be DANGEROUS and should only be worked with at your own risk.com/id/AA-Battery-Powered-Tesla-Coil/ .6 KV. It still throws out plasma discharges from the top load and about 3. welcome to my first instructable. though the bigger the better. two Erector set brackets were used. Estimated output is about 100kv. floats at high voltage. but anything smooth and without sharp edges or points can be substituted. as long as the two ends where the arc jumps is rounded. and the gap adjustable.instructables. in effect it is similar. This is intended to be a how-to guide for a newbie to high voltage (like myself) looking for a quick. leading to a shock hazard when it is exposed. See the attached picture for the details. Although this is not a true tesla coil.

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instructables. remove the negative battery wire from the board. these can be used to make a capacitor bank. Remove the screw in the middle of the circuit board. First. The final product with capacitor bank is showed below. In my case. and solder in its place the lead from the AA battery holder. mounted on a piece of painted mdf. Otherwise.. Image Notes 1. and here 2. exposing the back of the circuit board. pry off the battery cover. desolder the capacitor from the board. http://www. Next. and in its place solder a jumper. if you go this route. the back half of the handle can be lifted off. First. One of the black wires from the board's output can also be removed. Now that the board is removed. and another at the top of the battery compartment.com/id/AA-Battery-Powered-Tesla-Coil/ . and then remove the screws. and snip the wires where they attach to the battery contacts.. see below. Solder the positive battery wire on the board to the normally open lead on the toggle switch. Once removed. Snip wires here. and the positive lead from the battery holder to the common lead on the toggle switch. If you choose to make a capacitor bank. remove the original momentary push switch. They can be mounted on a perf board as shown for a neater appearance. the rest of the racquet is not needed. for no apparent reason.Step 2: Dismantle the Zapper The bug zapper is easy enough to open. Find as many high voltage capacitors as you want to use and wire them in parallel. it has to be slightly modified for our needs. Step 3: Prepare the Zapper Circuit Now that the circuit is removed. and snip the wires running to the head of the racquet as close to the head of the racquet as possible. leave the capacitor in its place. I chose to use six. two near the bottom of the battery compartment. the board is all set. and set aside with the other capacitors. Capacitor Bank: This is relatively simple to make. If you have extra capacitors. If you choose to not do this. There are two up near the head of the racquet. since it is not needed.

For my spark gap. http://www. Switch removed.com/id/AA-Battery-Powered-Tesla-Coil/ . the slower but more powerful the pulses. and continues into the flyback. This creates short. The rounded shape is to prevent corona leakage between the electrodes. The ends of each electrode should be rounded. but there are some general requirements: It has to be adjustable for the width of the gap. one electrode is a ball bearing.Image Notes 1. Second black wire removed Image Notes 1. Other output from zapper board Step 4: Spark Gap One of the wires from the zapper capcitor/capacitor bank feeds directly to the flyback transformer. To flyback 3. The spark gap works to allow the capacitors to charge to the point when the electricity jumps the gap. and each nailed to the mdf that my whole setup is mounted on. which will be addressed in the next step. the other through the spark gap. From output of zapper board 5. Angled bracket made from an erector set piece used to mount switch Image Notes 1. the bolt can be screwed in or out to adjust the width of the gap. The design of the spark gap can vary.instructables. Screw used to mount zapper board on wood 3. powerful pulses to feed the flyback. The electrodes are then mounted on Erector set pieces. the narrower the gap. the faster but weaker the pulses. Jumper is on underside of board 2. The gap then feeds into the flyback transformer. Capacitor from zapper 2. To spark gap 4. the other a bolt with an acorn nut on the end. The wider the gap.

you will come across the pin you are looking for. To flyback transformer 3. and with the suction cup removed and the end stripped.instructables. take note of the polarity of the primary coil pins. this just uses one primary coil. To flyback from spark gap Step 5: Flyback Transformer This is easily the most time consuming and tedious part of the build. Second pin for secondary coil with wire attatched http://www. However. Once this coil is located. To find the primary coil. the polarity is important. Part of this is already done. Using a multimeter. Entire setup so far 2. and to the pin that the fat red wire sparks to. solder another wire. If there is none. Once this is done. and that there isn't a third pin connected to it. its down to trial and error. Ball bearing soldered to Erector set piece 2. measure the resistance across each pair of pins. Tap the disconnected terminal of the battery with the loose alligator clip. Acorn nut 3. Eventually. Make sure to use plenty of glue. While many other people might rewind their own primary coils on the flyback. reverse the polarity of the battery and try the whole process again. move onto the next pin. This prevents unwanted arcing. Once the primary coil is located. since they contain a rectifier and voltage multiplier circuit. and fill all gaps and spaces.Image Notes 1. Positive input to primary 3. Negative input to primary 2. which use a primary and feedback coil. Feed from Capacitor bank 5. That being said. Before disconnecting the battery from the flyback. take note of their resistances. the coil is all set. just to be safe. As you measure across each set of pins. Nut soldered to Erector set piece to allow bolt to be screwed in/out 4. This is the one we are after. solder two long wires to it. Pins potted in hot glue Image Notes 1. Unlike most flyback driver circuits. move it closer and try again. Don't connect this alligator clip to the battery yet. since one "pin" is the fat (usually red) wire that comes out of the top of the transformer and has a suction cup on the end. If there is still no spark. this is not always the case. the secondary coil needs to be located. Take fat the red wire. connect an alligator clip. the primary coils (as there are usually more than one) are situated so that their inputs are next to each other. and look for a spark between the wire and pin. To flyback transformer Image Notes 1. place it close to one of the unused pins. pot the pins in hot glue. I prefer to use the ones already available. Image Notes 1.com/id/AA-Battery-Powered-Tesla-Coil/ . as the one with the lowest resistance has the fewer number of coils. make sure that this is an independent coil. and to the other primary coil pin. If the wire doesn't spark to any of the pins. I find that in a majority of flybacks. If you are using one of the new flybacks. To flyback directly from capacitor bank 6. The method for locating the second pin is relatively crude. Connect a 9 volt battery to one of the primary coil pins with an alligator clip. since they are already nicely potted in the flyback. Then.

Image Notes 1. Check all connections. back the bolt out (or however your spark gap is set up) until a spark is achieved. or if they are too far apart. This means the circuit is running and the capacitors are being charged. This wire too can be trimmed Step 6: Putting it All Together The flyback is now ready to be wired into the rest of the circuit that we prepared. the picture is after its been mounted to a piece of mdf and a top load added. check the spark gap width. Grounding post and wire addressed in the next step. make the gap smaller. Below. the positive output from the capacitor bank goes thought the spark gap. make sure the capacitor bank is charging by using a high voltage multimeter to check the voltage across the capacitors. and the red LED that was already on the zapper board should light up. the spark gap is wired in series with the flyback. it's time to package it all up. then to the flyback. time for troubleshooting. If the electrodes are touching. give yourself a pat on the back. check the polarity of the primary coil connections to the flyback.com/id/AA-Battery-Powered-Tesla-Coil/ . the circuit is ready to be tested. Top lad addressed in next step 5. DON'T MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO THE SPARK GAP WHILE THE CIRCUIT IS ON!!!!! If you do so. check the width of the gap. and check to make sure you are using the proper pins. Once the circuit is working. In this way.Image Notes 1. you will be shocked. If not move the wires closer. Negative input to flyback from capacitor bank 2. which is addressed in the next step. Once you have a spark. If you don't get a spark across the spark gap. Once this is all set. The negative output from the capacitor bank goes directly to the flyback. Spark gap in series with flyback 4. Unused wires can be trimmed 2. put the fat red wire close to the wire soldered to the other pin of the secondary. flip the circuit on.instructables. http://www. If you get an arc from the secondary coil of the flyback. In my circuit. You should have an arc jump the gap. Positive input to flyback from spark gap 3. your circuit is done! if not.

they are visible as white. so that a grounded wire can be attached to it. no more than about 30 to 35 seconds at a time. Making the gap bigger leads to fewer pulses. will severely weaken the discharges. then takes a right turn up inside the pen body. This is best for making plasma discharges into the air. The top load is simply something metal and smooth. show it off to family members and friends. Making the gap too small. once your eyes adjust. Wire to groud 3. Using the "Tesla Coil": Turn the switch on. The longest arc I have recorded was about 3. A large ball bearing works well for this. Have fun with it. with the wire running up the inside. The other wire from the secondary coil enters the board from the side. This is best when trying to achieve the largest arc to ground. High Voltage output wire from secondary coil in flyback 2. Top load attatched to pen body Image Notes 1. Making the gap smaller leads to faster. don't run the circuit for too long.com/id/AA-Battery-Powered-Tesla-Coil/ . but less powerful pulses. Binding post attached to secondary coil Image Notes 1. it was mounted on painted mdf (medium density fiberboard). Entire setup all ready to go! http://www. I then glued the top load to a plastic pen body. just remember to use common sense and be safe. From secondary coil 2. and with a grounded wire attached. A wire can be attached to the grounding post. however. Because the discharges are low amperage. The spark gap can be adjusted to achieve different results as well. Ball bearing top load Image Notes 1. they are difficult to see in the light. The fat red wire is connected to the top load. You can choose to do it as I have done. and placed near the top load. Finally. Congratulations on your new AA battery powered "Tesla Coil"!. to make the whole set up neater. as this can lead to the zapper circuit overheating and failing. so it arcs to it. The wire running to the top load enter the side of the board. Image Notes 1.Step 7: Top Load and Mounting the Circuit To make the circuit function more like a classic Tesla Coil. plasma discharges will leave the top load.6 cm long. as low as 1 a second. and experiment with high voltage! Remember. one end of the secondary coil needs to be grounded.instructables. but leads to the most powerful discharges out of the top load. or mounted everything in a box. or however. but then connects to a binding post. mini lightning bolts. This is done by simply attaching it to a grounding post or cold water pipe. without any edges or points. The pin of the secondary that should be grounded is the one on the bottom of the flyback. In a dark room.

(REVISED VERSION) by Tesla Coiler Simple/powerful Flyback Driver from a Computer SMPS by TheDoci http://www.Image Notes 1. Time lapse photo of arcs from copper wire to a grounded circuit board Related Instructables How To Build A Simple But Powerful Flyback Driver by Plasmana MAKE A HIGH VOLTAGE SUPPLY IN 5 MINUTES by Biotele 0$ variable high voltage/current supply by alwinovich Tesla Coils for Dummies (Photos) by Xellers Step By Step Plans to Building a 250.000 Volt Tesla Coil.com/id/AA-Battery-Powered-Tesla-Coil/ .instructables.

2011. To make one. 9:06 PM REPLY JoeBeau says: Jul 29. -max. a real tesla coil doesn't need to be large.says: Jul 22. and that can cause the overloaded capacitor to fail. and are charged to higher voltage. 6:46 AM REPLY do you know about basic electronics. 2011. the voltage is now divided among fewer capacitors. 2011.instructables. 10:15 AM REPLY Nicola Tesla says: ok thanks i'll try it out when my better caps arrive Jul 30. there are just some guidelines that need t be followed: rounded electrodes. only then will you have a true "Tesla coil" Nicola Tesla says: yes i now "Basic Electronics" and i don't plan on making a bigger one Jul 31. is 1000V (this means a inch long spark is 20. some will charge with more voltage than others. every now and then. you shouldn't build this if you don't. caps are tricky. Nicola Tesla says: oh thanks for telling me! =) Jul 22. i make my own with wax paper and foil. 8:14 AM REPLY -max. being able to adjust the width of the spark gap. 2011. also. 4:49 PM REPLY MrShtickman says: how did u get your spark gap Jul 23. and you can get one out of a really old TV. you need a really old huge flyback transformer. sometimes.000 volts! ) Jul 30.says: OK. a good one comes along eBay. be on the safe side Jul 29. 2011. and plastic sheets Nicola Tesla says: what does the resistor do? Jul 22. you should also know high voltage safety precautions. 2011.says: Jul 31. causing them to fail. 2011. its even smaller. -max. 8:07 PM REPLY JoeBeau says: Jul 29. all of them have different values. make your own primary and secondary coil. and conduct.says: for every millimeter of spark in the air. 7:12 PM REPLY it evens the voltage across all the capacitors. 7:25 AM REPLY -max. 7:02 PM REPLY -max. in our case) well.that is. http://www. -max. but still. then its a chain reaction.says: Jul 31. for a even more realistic coil.my spark gap under normal operation is less than a millimeter in diameter.says: Jul 22. 2011.com/id/AA-Battery-Powered-Tesla-Coil/ . 2011. Any design that is able to accomplish these should work. 8:34 AM REPLY good. you might consider making your own out of aluminium foil. 2011. you learn in science class "a series circuit divides voltage across all the loads" (capacitors.says: Jul 30. step 4 details the construction. 2011. 2:09 PM REPLY Just to clarify. 2011. 2011. if they are not EXACTLY the same. 6:58 PM REPLY its better if all your capacitors are identical. 2:13 PM REPLY I made it. and adjustability. 9:17 AM REPLY i dont have too many high voltage capacitors. 2011.Comments 50 comments Add Comment view all 73 comments -max. for a more true Tesla coil. and wired for more voltage (series) and have at least a 1M resistor across all of them.

Jul 22. 2011. but they aren't really worth much. JoeBeau says: Jul 18. 2011. I have a pair of each all working.says: does the bug zapper work. and you will find plenty of schematics for a flyback driver. test by placing a neon bulb across the output of the zapper circuitry. 2011. 2011. But by comparing this flyback to the one in the instructable you can guess which pins are the ones being used in the instructable. Some flybacks look different from the one i used. The tv is a source for the flyback transformer. but as for the TV. though this usually isnt the case. 2011. 4:28 AM REPLY I haven't tried it. 2011. sooraj619 says: since the flyback transformer pins are glued. 6:47 PM REPLY Nicola Tesla says: i didn't test it like that but i can hear it wining and when i short it. 2011. 1:19 PM REPLY -max. 12:30 AM REPLY JoeBeau says: Jul 18. 4:35 AM REPLY The transformer from the microwave can be used as a HV transformer just by wiring it into the mains. it will spark Jul 22. The pin marked by the line is the other high voltage pin. oldfart16801 says: Jul 16. 2011. 8:14 AM REPLY JoeBeau says: Jul 7.5kv woulld be a lot more difficult. and they can be used to make a different flyback driver circuit. 2011.Articas says: Do you reckon i could use one of these zappers to make a coil gun Jul 26. 9:53 PM REPLY JoeBeau says: Jul 18. I would google it to make sure you dont do it wrong and cut power to the entire neighborhood. but i couldn't get a picture of the pins in the hot glue. But the flyback would work better since it steps the voltage up higher.5kv. 2011. there are drivers for the flyback in there. it will use the existing components in the tv. and almost all the time use a flyback very similar in construction to the one pictured.com/id/AA-Battery-Powered-Tesla-Coil/ . is there one in my old crt computer monitors or old TV's. Sorry. croseman says: Can you use a Microwave Oven transformer?(MOT) Jul 17. There aren't any parts in the microwave to be used in this project. If you are lucky. Nicola Tesla says: when mine charges it never sparks at the spark gap no madder what. 2011. and the pinout is different. so to make a capacitor bank large enough for a coil gun rated at 1. Was going to sell on craigslist. and the ones marked by the single and double dots are the pins to the primary. 4:31 AM REPLY All CRT screens have some sort of high voltage transformer. 2011. since they are usually the largest component inside the tv excluding the CRT itself. while a camera flasher circuit puts out 350 volts.instructables. please help! Jul 22. especially the older ones. 4:48 PM REPLY The flyback pictured is a different one. Photoflash capacitors have much higher capacitance than most 1. They are pretty easy to identify. 2011.5kv capacitors. 8:11 PM REPLY talbayaty says: I dont have a bug zapper but i have a tv and old microwave are there any parts i can use from them in its place? Jul 17. the pins cant be seen so please add pictures to show which are the pins nice job Jul 7. http://www. Google it. 2:04 PM REPLY I was thinking about that. 1:02 AM REPLY JoeBeau says: Jul 29. but it would seem that any step-up transformer can be used in place of the flyback. 3:35 PM REPLY my first dumb question (I'm sure there will be more to come) this flyback transformer you talk about. but the problem is that the zapper puts out an estimated 1. but this is dangerous if done incorrectly.

JoeBeau says: Jul 14. 8:14 PM REPLY Ragnarocker says: Joke gum packs have springs. And visa versa. high enough volts can really twitch you out and aren't good for you. 7:41 AM REPLY Robert L says: Jul 13. It's just that people associate plasma discharges with tesla coils... 2011. or those electric fly swatters? Jul 8.1 to . 2011. I think people may have been mislead to think that Tesla coils are anything that have sparks. I remember reading somewhere that the average static shock is a couple kv or even higher. as for the volts. 10:20 PM REPLY If you have less amps than that by doubling the volts how could you die from the amps that aren't there? riddle me that menehunie. but all i was really after was the same effects as a tesla coil. and as i said to hubi. jcansdale says: Jul 7. this doesn't produce enough to kill. When a transformer is used to step up voltage.sooraj619 says: thanks Jul 17.000 times lower. i used the term "tesla coil" mainly for descriptive purposes. so in turn the amperage is 33.. 1:28 PM REPLY JoeBeau says: Jul 7.2 amp IS FATAL Jul 7.a decrease in voltage causes an increase in amperage. 7:01 AM REPLY Flying_MashedPotatoes says: even though ur only using 2 AA batteries... 4:38 AM REPLY Voltage doesn't kill you.com/id/AA-Battery-Powered-Tesla-Coil/ . three volts is increased to over 100. it is so low by the end the discharges would be more on par to a static shock. but the amperage is so low it doesn't hurt you. 4:40 PM REPLY menahunie says: This is NOT a Tesla Coil. not electricity. I would like to build a real one some day. Flying_MashedPotatoes says: so if i built one of those and stuck my hand inside the lightning bolts.. 2011. HOWEVER i would not recommend touching the top load just to be on the safe side. heart palpitations are another story. it isn't a tesla coil. 2011. That is 33. Robert L says: sorry for being blunt I missed that part. This is the same as a car ignition coil and the voltage/amps can kill you. 6:35 PM REPLY This isnt a Tesla coil. even though it might have been close to enough to kill at the beginning. 2011. Here. the amperage from the batteries.instructables.. amperage does. But i wouldn't try it just in case Jul 9. but shouldn't kill.. as i have not tested this idea... with 3 volts from two AA batteries being stepped up to over 100k by the time it leaves the top load. but hey! it still hurts :) Jul 11. as i stated in the intro. 4:56 PM REPLY I know this isn't a tesla coil.. 2011. 100 to 200 mA or . Why do you get so much more voltage when the ground is attached? http://www. amperage goes down. yourmom003 says: if the amps from a nine volt battery cant kill you.. 4:37 PM REPLY I'm trying to understand why grounding the secondary coil makes such a difference. 11:42 PM REPLY JoeBeau says: Jul 8. amperage is cut in half. but using resonance to get them.000 by use of transformers. Jul 14.. 2011. I do realize this is very similar to the ignition coil idea.5V batteries cant kill you. so that is why i used that term. 8:01 PM REPLY JoeBeau says: More like a big van de graff probably. Jul 10. 2011. 2011. If the voltage is doubled. and the amps from (2) 1. the voltage increases and is really dangerous??? Jul 7. and what makes something a tesla coil is not just having big sparks. 2011. 2011. Go look it up. A Tesla coil is a type of resonant transformer circuit.. 2011. You are right though. what would happen? Would i get a shock like those Joke gum packs. For the amperage however. 2011.000 times higher. 5:53 AM REPLY I know full well it isn't. as i said in the intro.

To buy everything new. 6:55 PM REPLY view all 73 comments http://www. 4:31 AM REPLY the grounding is necessary for making the discharges come out of the top load. current can be more easily sourced from ground than from the negative electrode alone). Still a little confused. but by grounding it turns the secondary from a bipolar coil (Current feeding in a circular path throughout the coil) into a coil where the current feeds out of only one end of the coil. Because it is high voltage. in a real TC the primary is losely coupled to the bottom of the secondary coil but on a flyback it is very close coupled over the whole length of the secondary so it is something between spark inductor and dipol tesla. What puzzled me was the sudden breakdown. I have a x1000 probe to measure the voltage. 2011. 2011. The ground is necessary to get larger discharges into the air. JoeBeau says: Jul 8. 2011. jcansdale says: Thanks for your reply . it would be recommended to do some googling on high voltage safety precautions. If you use rounded electrodes for the gap. But i have noticed what you are talking about as well.. but i think instead it changes how the coil functions. 2011. 4:37 PM REPLY It cost me about 5 bucks. on those tiny teslacoils it is not good to get the secondary grounded. It would seem that the ground being connected causes a larger potential difference. test.. hubi says: Jul 8. and troubleshoot a circuit. the circuit is from the ground. Instead. It no longer a closed circuit through the coil.e. and back to ground. like you see real tesla coils do on youtube. 2:00 AM REPLY I noticed that connecting the ground triggered electrical breakdown (for a given gap) and a loud hissing noise. a huge chunk of that coming from the purchase of the flyback JoeBeau says: xdoodsx says: where can i buy a flyback transformer? cant seem to find any decently priced ones on the net Jul 14. I cannot explain how this works or why too well. or just the electrode tips glowing. 2011. across a spark gap. through the coil. I'd really like to see a voltage vs current graph on my scope. In this special case with a DST it is like a sparkgap driven boost converter. which is the air. I'd have expected the larger discharges into air to make the system less efficient. pbman123 says: about how much would this cost to make? and how much experince is needed to make it Jul 7. 2011. 8:51 AM REPLY I wonder if having it connected to ground means there is less resistance on the positive swing (i. General soldering skills. but all traditional tesla coils have one end of the secondary coil grounded. or you if you're not careful. 9:51 AM REPLY JoeBeau says: Jul 7.com/id/AA-Battery-Powered-Tesla-Coil/ . jcansdale says: Jul 8. all the discharges are focused onto one end of the coil. Larger discharges into air explains the hissing noise. When a ground is connected to one end. but got the rest of the parts from old electronics. 5:30 PM REPLY Experience wise. and the gap remains the same way as before. But this is a good beginners project for high voltage Jul 7. anything that can absorb the charge. 5:10 PM REPLY You don't get a higher voltage necessarily. Without a ground.instructables. This would allow more current to flow and a greater potential to accumulate on the positive electrode when it overshoots. you can see wispy purple sparks between the electrodes. not tooo much. Jul 8. 2011. I hope that helps. a ground isn't necessary. 9:27 AM REPLY Hmm.it's starting to become a bit clearer. With the lights out. I had to buy the racquet. One cause is. With one end grounded. the ground itself.says: you might think about making this into a real tesla coil and winding primary/secondary (its not easy but worth it) Jul 22. 2011. That is the sound of corona discharges through the gap. you're looking at about 30 bucks. but I'm not sure how to measure the current on the high voltage side. as well as the ability to assemble. instead of just a stripped wire. and to never touch a component connected to the circuit with two hands or be holding a ground in one hand while touching anything in the circuit.JoeBeau says: Jul 7. 2011. 2011. A few would be to never work with a power supply connected (here that is the batteries) always wear rubber-soled shoes so you are not connected to ground. i have noticed that same hissing sound. Won't this be caused by a higher potential difference? Why would grounding the system allow a larger potential difference to form across the gap? If anything. and into the coil again. you will reduce this type of discharge and have more "real" sparks. For making the spark just jump a gap from one output of the secondary coil to the other. So they write on >>Information unlimited<< . 2:36 AM REPLY -max. the discharges come out of both ends of the secondary coil.