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Heat Exchanger Design
01/13/2011 5:05 AM

Hi guys, I need help. I just finished thermal design of shell and tube exchanger (Water Cooler). Next, I want to proceed to mechanical design but I have problem detailing the exchanger. For example, how do I determine the size of the channel and shell cover? Is there a standard that specify the dimensions? All suggestions are welcome.
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#3 "Re: Heat Exchanger Design" by Abdel Halim Galala on 01/14/2011 12:54 AM (score 1)

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Re: Heat Exchanger Design
01/13/2011 8:39 AM

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that answer just isn't sitting on a shelf. If you thermally design it, I take that some info you have is media flows requirements of which you'll have to share. Also the delta p on both especially the shell cover is great due to creating turbulance is usaully determined with an estimation that is confirmed with empirical data. __________________ phoenix911
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01/13/2011 9:28 AM

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I have done the thermal design and rating, and I have the geometry defined. See the table below for fluid parameters and construction data. My problem now is to detail the heat exchanger that is adding channel head, shell cover and other components to the heat exchange. How do I determine the sizes (length) of channel, shell cover and other components? Is there any book that thoroughly addresses mechanical design and detailing of heat exchanger? Thank you. Shell Side Fluid Parameters Fluid Fluid inlet temperature Fluid outlet temperature Fluid flow rate Fluid viscosity at mean temperature Fluid thermal conductivity at mean temperature Specific heat capacity of fluid at mean temperature Density of fluid at mean temperature Condensate (Hydrocarbon) 46.5 37 62.5 0.33 0.1205 2221.5 681.45 °C °C kg/s cP W/m.K J/(kg · K) kg/m
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m Fouling resistance (Shell side) Shell diameter Tube Side Fluid Parameters Fluid Water inlet temperature Water outlet temperature Water 30 33.5 °C °C 0.00017 730
2.K / W

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. __________________ It is better to be defeated on principles... I'm new in drafting and detailing shell and tube heat exchanger and would appreciate a more elaborate explanation.798 0.. & 1" max..05 17..globalspec..7 0. If I remember right...1 2 642 19.. ● Length of shell cover shall be determined based on a clear space L between the outside surface of floating head spherical sector and inside surface of dished head of shell cover.K J/(kg · K) kg/m 3 Water viscosity at mean temperature Water thermal conductivity at mean temperature Specific heat capacity of water at mean temperature 4179 Density of water at mean temperature 995...6 kg/s cP W/m.00029 2.... and the issue is: 1) How do I get or estimate the length of components such as channel. Abdel Halim Galala Guru Re: Heat Exchanger Design 01/14/2011 9:17 AM #6 In reply to #4 For shell & tube heat exchanger with floating head...42 4877 730 mm mm mm mm #3 oK) 0.8/15/13 Water flow rate CR4 ..Thread: Heat Exchanger Design 91... Egypt Posts: 1749 Good Answers: 234 . than to win on lies! No more "Almost" Good Answers. and as a practical experience: ● Shell cover ID = Floating head flange OD + 2 X. It should have some equations to calculate what you need.. that section on exchanger design has very complicated iterative equations so you might want some sort of software to solve this for you.com/thread/64687/Heat-Exchanger-Design 2/4 . and 4" max.. where X = 0.. There's a section in there for shell and tube exchanger design.. I still have issue.25" min.. ade-id Active C ontributor Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 10 Re: Heat Exchanger Design 01/14/2011 5:59 AM #4 In reply to #3 Thanks for your reply.. where L = 1" min. cr4. shell cover etc? Is there any standard or empirical formula for this? cingold Guru Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 520 Good Answers: 11 Re: Heat Exchanger Design 01/14/2011 8:09 AM #5 In reply to #4 Look at ASME Section VIII.7 m Fouling resistance (tube side) Heat Exchanger Construction Data J/(kg · Thermal conductivity of tube Number of passes Number of tubes Tube outside diameter Tube inside diameter Tube length Shell diameter 377.K / W Abdel Halim Galala Guru Re: Heat Exchanger Design 01/14/2011 12:54 AM Free download the attached files for design calculations and design drawings: • Heat_Exchanger_Mechanical_Design Calculations • Heat_Exchanger_Design_Drawings Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: C airo.

Thread: Heat Exchanger Design Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: C airo..8/15/13 CR4 . Please I need information for that as soon as possible..... I will get the book and study it in details .... engali85 Participant Join Date: Aug 2011 Re: Heat Exchanger Design 08/05/2011 6:10 PM #11 In reply to #9 ok ade : iam now working on my thesis deals with condensers in power plant technology. shell and tube and air cr4... engali85 Participant Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3 Re: Heat Exchanger Design 08/05/2011 5:15 PM #10 In reply to #9 Thank you ade....... Egypt Posts: 1749 Good Answers: 234 ....... thanks in advance ........... I recommend you having a copy of TEMA standards. I attached the lay-out of the heat exchanger below.. __________________ It is better to be defeated on principles.u do it before so help me ade-id Active C ontributor Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 10 Re: Heat Exchanger Design 08/05/2011 8:48 AM #9 In reply to #8 Thermal design and rating of heat exchanger is better done with HTRI / Aspen HTFS software. I would be grateful if you can help me with other dimensions too as shown in the diagram below.. Your reply has given me some understanding..com/thread/64687/Heat-Exchanger-Design 3/4 .. If you want to do it by manual calculation. Can you help me with the dimension labeled "A" i. Thank you very much.. Serth. I would recommend the book below: Process Heat Transfer Principles and Applications 2007 by Robert W.... Can you tell me which part of TEMA to look at for this information... The book provides explicit procedure for thermal rating of heat exchangers.. ade ...e the channel length...globalspec. engali85 Participant Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3 Re: Heat Exchanger Design 08/05/2011 7:22 AM #8 In reply to #7 Hi There : I need to know How can make a good Thermal design and rating for Shell and Tube and Air Cooled Steam Condenser .. than to win on lies! ade-id Active C ontributor Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 10 Re: Heat Exchanger Design 01/14/2011 10:59 AM #7 Thank you for the reply...

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