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that

correct? to my lack earlier. to track of

No, I believe about

I referred

information
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flew by me as I was trying

the House A

system. computer knowledge. I

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and I know and that

how to work

computers

and know
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In my world Okay. My question 25-1 to 3.

makes

you an expert.

A
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is let's Where

talk

about

this this

exhibit document, A
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did you obtain

sir? have it in front the E-mail of me. streams that Mr.

I don't

We call them asked Those

Krastek A result was

you about? would have been given jury to us as a that

of a subpoena, for E-mail What --

grand

subpoena

issued

communications happened --

as one of

the contacts.
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I didn't What

A provided them them

happened

is they were form unit

subsequently happened to

in electronic

and what is they

in our forensics by document

had to index system

and put into a software

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DT Search. What I am more interested in is who gave

you thi s? A
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Who gave Yes.

us the actual

E-mails?

A

It was negotiated through

-- my understanding representation from

is the

it was negotiated House.
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So the House

Democratic

Caucus

gave

you

the E-mail s? A involved
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Specifically in this

Mr. Chadwick

would

have

been

process.

Who is that? He is employed a contractual really want by -- he employee
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A believe don't

actually

I I

for the House. know specifically I know I looked feel

to -- I don't is.

exact 1y what

hi s background

at his Web page and so forth comfortable Caucus
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but I don't He is employed

going

by that.

by the

in some When

capacity. also provided to

you say that it was format,

you in an electronic on a di sk? A know The initial how they were

do you mean

it was

E-mails, transformed

I personally

don't

from step A, the

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if you wi 11, to our computer I am assumi ng it was know if it was disk form. I

I don't

involved You can't these

in that process. testify under oath here today in to

that

E-mails

came from any computer have the IP address computer, correct?

particular? trace A E-mails

You don't

it to a particular The House were gave

them to us and these as a result of the system

obtained

at the House.
Q

That's

not my question.

My question hard drive computer

is of Mr. and

you didn't Veon's

go to the particular

computer

or Miss Rosepink's

you as law enforcement E-mails from those

did not retrieve according

these to your

hard drives

test imony? A
Q

I did not personally

do that,

no. It to your

Nor did any law enforcement Democratic Caucus

person?

was the House test imony? A That Again

according

I was not involved

ln the process. place.

is my understanding

of how it took

We have di fferent

had a lot of hard drives, thi ngs invol ved here.

a lot of So to speak

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specifically someone
Q

about

these,

it would unit. these

have to be

in our forensics You don't

know where enough to that,

came

from? to, no.

A
Q

Not confident In addition

to testify wouldn't

it be fair like

to say, if an E-mail I said, correct, E-mail.

came from my computer,

I may not ask the question let's Let's say I am going just

technically

to send you an with my

say you get an E-mail the IP from

name on it and if you can identify address, Cynthia A you can say, yeah, Eddy's Again, computer? I have no expertise

this came

in computer I feel

forensics confi dent opinion
Q

or in identification in testi fyi ng to.

of IP that You're

aski ng for my

and I am not asking for your opinion. I want

to make that clear. A don't I can't know THE COURT: reporter time. Go ahead. We have a great court at a answer the question because I

but she can only take one voice

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