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From: Timothy J. Naftali [tjn3y@virginia.edu]


Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 9:20 AM
To: Mike Hurley; Warren Bass
Subject: RE: Deadlines

Dear Mike,

Thank you for the extra days. I appreciate getting them.

Sorry to hear that the pressure has not been relaxed on you.

Tim.

Original Message
From: Mike Hurley [mailto:mhurley@9-llcommission.gov]
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 1:33 PM
To: tjn3y@virginia.edu; Warren Bass
Cc: Mike Hurley
Subject: RE: Deadlines

Hi Tim:

The 2 month extension that has been much ballyhooed in the press in reality has
little impact on us. Team 3's internal deadlines have not changed at all.

I'll unilaterally agree to giving you an extension of 10 days. So your new due date
is February 25. Please have your piece to us by then. I hope that extension helps.

You should know that I haven't asked the Front Office about this. But I think I can
fend them off for ten days, and it's possible they won't even ask about it until later
in February anyway.

Mike

Original Message
From: Timothy J. Naftali [mailto:tjn3y@virginia.edu]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 4:16 PM
To: Mike Hurley; Warren Bass
Subject: Deadlines

Warren and Mike,

I am working hard to produce useful materials by the middle of this month. However if the
Commission does get an extension, I would like you to consider given me some more time. I have
hit paydirt in my most recent interviews and important doors are starting to open. Plus I have yet to
track down some important Congressional materials.

Tim.

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From: Timothy J. Naftali [tjn3y@virginia.edu]


Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 2:09 PM
To: Mike Hurley; Warren Bass
Subject: CIA and FBI Public Information

Dear Mike and Warren,

Thank you again for your help in setting up my Texas trip.

I have good contacts in the CIA's History office but I do not want to cross wires. How should I go about asking to
see DCI's public statements. The Agency keeps them for all DCIs and they are, by definition, unclassified. I would
like to see Gates and Woolsey's public statements on the nature of the world, threats, etc. for 1992-94.

Similarly I would like to see Sessions' and Freeh's public statements on terrorism over that period. I don't have
any contacts but I could ask Sessions to check his own files for these public documents.

Any suggestions? Should you ask for them via liaison? David Tucker will also probably want to see them.

Tim.

Timothy J. Naftali
Director
Presidential Recordings Program
Kremlin Decisionmaking Project
Miller Center of Public Affairs
2201 Old Ivy Road
PO Box 400406
Charlottesville, VA 22904

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Mike Hurley
From: Mike Hurley
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 8:03 AM
To: 'tjn3y@virginia.edu'
Cc: Warren Bass; Marquittia Coleman; Mike Hurley
Subject: RE: Dallas Trip 2

Tim:

Thanks for your notes. I apologize for being out of touch with you. We're being run ragged with one high level
interview after another (yesterday Strobe Talbott and John Podesta, day before Sandy Berger for 9 hours). It's
relentless.

I'll speak to Chris Kojm today and see if I can get more support from the front office than it has demonstrated in
recent weeks.

Are you on track to meet your February 15 deadline?

Regards,

Mike

Original Message
From: Timothy J. Naftali [mailto:tjn3y@virginia.edu]
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 8:04 PM
To: Mike Hurley; Warren Bass
Subject: Dallas Trip 2

Dear Mike and Warren,

I don't want to cause any trouble for you and am trying to work the problem. Since my last email, I
managed to get an excellent fare for the Austin to Dallas flight (118.00). I can spring for that so long as
the Commission will put me up in Texas through Sunday morning, February 1. The cost to the
Commission is an extra night at a hotel.

Tim.

Timothy J. Naftali
Director
Presidential Recordings Program
Kremlin Decisionmaking Project
Miller Center of Public Affairs
2201 Old Ivy Road
PO Box 400406
Charlottesville, VA 22904

1/16/2004
Mike Hurley
From: Chris Kojm
"ient: Monday, January 12, 2004 2:21 PM
To: Mike Hurley; Warren Bass
Subject: RE: Travel Arrangements for Tim Naftali

Mike, Warren -- What's going on here?


I approved this trip, as indicated, in October, and the trip was scheduled for December.
His original due date for a MS to us was Jan. 15th, and now I understand it to be Feb.
15th. What I want to know is will he produce for us on time (now Feb. 15th) and is this
trip essential to that outcome.
You can sense my frustration. I really don't want to pay for him gallivanting to
presidential libraries on our nickel when he is already a day late and I hope not a dollar
short.
Having vented, let me return to sweet reason. I don't want to be precipitate, but I do
want to very clear here. I will only approve this trip if both of you support it and
believe it is essential to the completion of his work on behalf of Team 3's work.
Best, C.
Original Message
From: Marquittia Coleman
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 10:31 AM
To: Chris Kojm
Subject: Travel Arrangements for Tim Naftali
Chris:
Tim Naftali is planning a trip to visit two presidential libraries in Austin, TX on Jan.
26 - Feb. 1 as he will need a roundtrip flight (to/from Dulles) and a rental car in Austin
for five days. Can I proceed with preparing the travel arrangements today?

Marquittia
Original Message
From: ckojm@9-llcommission.gov [mailto:ckojm@9-llcommission.gov]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 12:04 PM
To: Warren Bass
Cc: Bonnie Jenkins; Mike Hurley; Marquittia Coleman; Kasia Kozaczuk
Subject: Re: Travel Request for Tim
OK -- I approve.
uoting "" <wbass@9-llcommission.gov>:
>
> Thanks, Chris.
>
> Tim Naftali is planning a series of trips to presidential libraries to
> consult open archives for CT material. He's also planning to use the
> trips to meet with
> some former officials who worked on CT issues, as described in earlier
> messages
> to the Front Office. These research trips will form the spine of Tim's
> monograph on U.S. CT policy in the period from the start of modern terrorism
in
> 1968 until the Clinton administration, as described in our work plan.
>
> Hope that helps--please let me know if you have further questions.
1
> Warren

Quoting "" <bjenkins@9-llcommission.gov>:


> > Chris,

> > I am forwarding this email to Warren for response as Warren is the
> > Team 3 lead
> > on Tim's contribution to the monograph.

> > Thanks,


> > Bonnie

> > Forwarded message from "" <ckojm@9-llcommission.gov>


> > Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:15:27 -0500
> > From: "" <ckojm@9-llcommission.gov>
> > Reply-To: "" <ckojm@9-llcommission.gov>
> > Subject: Re: Travel Request
> > To: "" <mcoleman@9-llcommission.gov>, ""
> <bjenkins@9-llcommission.gov>

> > Bonnie, Marquittia -- I am going to need some more information and
> > justification from Tim as to the specific purpose of his visits. I just
> > don't
> > know much about what he plans to do/needs to do at these site visits.
> > Thanks, C.

> > Quoting "" <mcoleman@9-llcommission.gov>:

> > > Chris:

> > Team 3's part-timer Tim Naftali would like to request travel to
> > > conduct
> > > research at the following presidential libraries:

> > > Nov. 12-15th to Yorba Linda, CA: Richard Nixon and Regan Library.

> > > Dec. 2-6th to Austin, TX: George Bush Presidential Library,
> > > College
> > Station.

> > > Dec. 9-12th to Ann Arbor, MI: Gerald Ford Library.

> > > Please let me know if additional information is needed.

> > > Thanks,

> > > Marquittia

> > > Forwarded message from "" <dgreenburg@9-llcommission.gov>


> > > Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 14:44:50 -0400
> > > From: "" <dgreenburg@9-llcommission.gov>
> > > Reply-To: "" <dgreenburg@9-llcommission.gov>
> > > Subject: Travel Arrangements Needed
> > > To: "" <mcoleman@9-llcommission.gov>

> >- > Marquittia,

> > John, Serena, and I need the following flight reservations next
> > week:

> > > Monday, 10/27: From DCA (Regan National) to Minneapolis on the
> > > flight leaving at 8:25 a.m. on Northwest Airlines.
2
X > >
> > > Tuesday 10/28: From Minneapolis to Detroit on the 7:00 p.m
> > > Northwest Flight.
> > >
> > Thursday 10/30: From Detroit back to DCA on the 3:31 p.m.
> > Northwest
> > Flight.
> > >
> > > Northwest WorldPerks Numbers :
> > >
> > > Doug 299 752 666
> > >
> > > Serena SE452459 (Contintental - but they should take it) .
> > >
> > > Also, Serena requests Vegetarian meals on any flights that have
> > > meals.
> > >
> > > We are taking care of the hotel arrangements. Please let me know
> > > if you
> > have
> > >
> > > any questions. Thank you very much for your assistance.
> > >
> > > Doug
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- End forwarded message -----

> > > ----- End forwarded message

End forwarded message


Mike Hurley
Michael Hurley [mihurley@hotmail.com]
ent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 6:03 AM
fo: dctucker@nps.navy.mil
Cc: Mike Hurley
Subject: RE: commission work

Hi David:

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

Your plan sounds fine. It will help us a lot if you cover the 93 period up
to the Embassy bombings in '98. How terrorism was seen. How the government
responded. What instruments were used. The range of questions/issues we
included in our original letter to you. You're right that that February 15
is the deadline.

I can run the reimbursement-of-travel issue past Dan Marcus. It may be


easier, as you note, though, for you to fund it out of your program. Dan
will have to check with DoD to see if reimbursement violates any guideline
or rule. Let me see what Dan has to say about this.

As for the 30,000 word guidance, that was just a target length. Clearly, as
you'll be covering a shorter period than originally planned, it's fine to
come in with a shorter piece. Needless to say, quality is much more
important than number of words.

I recommend that you talk to Tim Naftali, to coordinate where he leaves off,
nd you pick up. Also, the greater consistency there is in how you both
pproach the issues, write about them, which you think are the most
important, etc., the easier it'll be for us to edit.

FYI: Team 3's own detailed monograph is due on March 15. Then we have a
big round of public hearings, of current and former principals, scheduled
for the last week of March.

Let me know about this other project you've begun. As we discussed, I'd be
happy to be interviewed for it.

And we need to think about when we're going to publish "Reforming Human
Intelligence". Next summer, soon after the Commission's report is issued?
Our Report is still scheduled to be released in the late-May to mid-June
time frame.

Warm regards,

Mike

>From: "Tucker, David USA" <dctucker@nps.navy.mil>


>To: "hurley commission" <mhurley@9-llcommission.gov>,"hurley hot"
><mihurley@hotmail.com>
>Subject: commission work
>Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 13:50:37 -0800
>
>Mike - I have to apologize again for another delay in responding. End
>of the quarter and other things, etc. In any case, I will write an
>essay covering 1993-1998. I will use open sources and interviews. At
>^-the moment, I intent to interview only two people, both now retired
Army Colonels who worked in DoD, the FBI and the NSC on terrorism
>during the period 1993-1998. My experience is that such people have a
>unique perspective and will have nothing to hide. I anticipate that I
>will make one or two trips to the DC area to look at some documents and
co do these interviews. If the commission can pay for travel and per
>diem that would be good but I believe that my program has the funds to
>cover this. Administratively, it might be easier if they did. How
>does this sound? We are no longer talking about 30K words. I don't know what the
•klength will be but it will be considerably shorter than that. The
deadline is 2/15, right?

>If this sounds alright to you, I will contact Tim Naftali. If you want
>to talk about this, I will be on leave 12/24-12/26 but you can call me
>at home during that time or in the office the week of 12/29.

>David

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From: Mike Hurley


Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 12:08 PM
To: Tucker, David USA'
Cc: Warren Bass; Mike Hurley
Subject: From Mike Hurley

Thanks David. We'll need to nail down as soon as we can whether we can count on you
to cover the 1993 - 98 period. As you know, we're really hoping this works out, as your
contribution is really important to us.

Talk to you soon.

Mike
Original Message
From: Tucker, David USA [mailto:dctucker@nps.navy.mil]
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 11:49 AM
To: Mike Hurley
Subject:

Mike - Sorry I did not et back to you as soon as I told you I would. When I opened the documents that
Tim sent me, I found that the one listing the different documents was over 500 pages long. It has taken
me a while to get through it. Still working on it, in fact. I will be in touch soon.

David

12/17/2003
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Mike Hurley

From: Warren Bass


Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 11:33 AM
To: Mike Hurley
Subject: RE: From David Tucker

Thanks. This is a Friday thing, but we do need to pull a trigger here—I'd much prefer to have David tackle the
Clinton period, but if we are going to ask Tim to handle 1993-98, we really ought to let him know ASAP.

Warren

Original Message
From: Mike Hurley
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 11:20 AM
To: Warren Bass
Subject: From David Tucker

Warren,

This is what I got from David yesterday.

Mike

—Original Message—
From: Tucker, David USA [mailto:dctucker@nps.navy.mil]
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 11:49 AM
To: Mike Hurley
Subject:

Mike - Sorry I did not et back to you as soon as I told you I would. When I opened the documents that
Tim sent me, I found that the one listing the different documents was over 500 pages long. It has taken
me a while to get through it. Still working on it, in fact. I will be in touch soon.

David

12/17/2003
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Mike Hurley

From: Warren Bass


Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 10:09 AM
To: 'tjn3y@virginia.edu'; Mike Hurley
Subject: RE: Update

Sounds good, Tim—keep us posted, and thanks again for all your hard work on this. We're excited to see the piece.
Best,
Warren

Original Message
From: Timothy J. Naftali [mailto:tjn3y@virginia.edu]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 11:30 AM
To: Mike Hurley; Warren Bass
Subject: Update

Dear Mike and Warren,

This week I will you a progress report and a plan for completing my research. I understand that I cannot
request funding for interview trips. But I do hope I can still make the presidential library research visits. In
November a trip to Texas -- to the LBJ and Bush libraries - was authorized but then I asked Marquittia to
postpone the trip. I would still like to go in January. I will determine by the end of this week whether to
seek authorizaton for a visit to the Carter or Ford libraries. Frankly, I would prefer not to go, if possible. I
will be speaking to the relevant archivists today and tomorrow and will then assess the extent to which
what I need is already covered by the National Security Archive CT collection.

All the best,

Tim.

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From: Chris Kojm


Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 1:39 PM
To: Mike Hurley
Cc: Scott Allan; Alexis Albion; Front Office; Warren Bass; 'afelz@starpower.net'; Al Felzenberg
Subject: RE: Tim Naftali Progress Report and Request

Mike --
Re: Oakley. You interviewed him already, didn't you? If Oakley doesn't object, I don't.
Cannistraro. Pis. check with Team 2 as to their interest in such an interview as well.
Bush Administration: Best person is probably whoever held the S/CT job at that time.

Re: letters. In addition to advance approval of interviews, please make sure that FO and Al F. are informed when
the interviews are scheduled, so that Al doesn't get blindsided by a phone call, as happened with Naftali's
interview of Ed Meese.

I am not happy about due date extension -1 know you aren't either - but if you can live with it I can.

Otherwise, OK

--C
Original Message
From: Mike Hurley
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 11:14 AM
To: Front Office; Warren Bass
Cc: Mike Hurley; Scott Allan; Alexis Albion
Subject: Tim Naftali Progress Report and Request

• I spoke with Tim Naftali yesterday. He reports that he is making good


progress on his historical research and writing on Counterterrorism Policy.

• We originally set the end of January as the due date for his piece. Given a
late start and "the richness of the unclassified documents he is
researching," he requests that his due date be extended to February 15.
Team 3 can live with that, but since we'll be so crunched with our own
writing, we'll encourage him to get it in as soon as possible lest this
become an albatross around our necks—and make it clear that February 15
is carved in stone. Our monograph deadline is March 15, which allows
sufficient time for Tim's work to inform ours.

• Tim advised that the interviews that he has conducted to date (with our
approval) have been fruitful. As we requested about a month ago, he has
stood down on requesting additional interviews.

• He pressed hard in our conversation for approval to do just three more. He


would like to interview Robert Oakley (former ambassador) and Vince
Cannistraro (former CTC official) for their historical knowledge on CT
policy.

• The third interview he would like to do is James Baker. I recall that Philip
said no to a Jim Baker interview (I communicated that to Tim on 10 October

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via email).

• I recommend that we say "yes" to him on Oakley and Cannistraro and


reiterate a "no" to him on Baker.
• Tim said that, for completeness's sake, he does need to interview someone
from the George H.W. Bush administration. I agree, but I suggest that he
come in with a name other than Baker.

• Apart from Baker, I think Tim's request is reasonable and we should


support it. Do others concur?

• If we give Tim the green light on the two interviews, we will of course
ensure that he sends us draft letters for advance approval. I know some
have expressed concern about his using our letterhead for interview
requests in the past. If that is still seen as a problem, he can send the
requests on his own stationery.
Just wanted to update the front office.
Mike

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From: Timothy J. Naftali [tjn3y@virginia.edu]


Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 8:44 AM
To: 'Mike'; wbass@9-11commission.gov
Subject: Update

Dear Mike and Warren,

I have just returned from what turned out to be a very successful research trip to California. The Reagan Library
proved a gold mine. The archivists kindly prepared for me a detailed list of materials related
to counterterrorism, Libya, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Syria, which I was able to work my way
down. Fortunately a few people had applied for materials on terrorism in the 1990s under the Freedom of
Information Act, which were released before the general tightening of declassification in 2001. Among the superb
documents [few of which, by the way, the National Security Archive filmed for their CT collection] are a finding on
Libya and discussions of the need for better humint on terrorism and homeland security in the 1980s. It is striking
to see discussions of a pre-emptive strategy against terrorism as early as 1984.

Yesterday I put some of this new material to work in my interview with Admiral Poindexter. He was very gracious
and would like to meet again because in a 75 minute meeting we were only able to scratch the surface.

There is a lot obviously that has not been released and I made a point of noting titles of documents that I thought
you might wish to see for your own work. The titles of many classified documents are open, even if the document
itself is not. What is referred to as a "Worldwide Counterterrorism" finding was prepared in April 1986.1 could not
find the finding itself [as I said I did see another finding] but there is a reference to a still classified discussion of it
by the State Department's legal counsel. As this finding may have been the first of the series that extend to our
times, you may wish to ask to see this discussion paper. In the files there is also a reference to a 1986 finding on
paramilitary activities associated with counterterrorism. Finally, there is also a 28 page history of US
Counterterrorism efforts prepared for the Vice President's Task Force on Counterterrorism in 1985 that might
prove useful when Warren supplements and edits my unclassified draft for insertion into your classified product. I
also looked at some Saudi and Pakistani material that you might find useful as background. The first significant
US military arrangements with the Saudis were negotiated by Caspar Weinberger in 1982. His personal
representative was General Richard Secord, later of Iran-Contra fame. President Reagan identified the defense of
Saudi Arabia as a US vital interest. As early as 1988, the USG was sensitive to the fact that the ISI had a special
relationship to the Afghan resistance and had built itself up as a rival power center in Karachi.

I have set up interviews over the next two weeks with Carlucci, Meese, Webster, Sessions and Turner. The
interview with Shultz provided a few nuggets but he generally could remember little more than what he put in his
memoir in 1993.1 would like to discuss adding a few more names. Having not heard yet from General Scowcroft
and since Gates is offlimits, I do not have a policy principal from the Bush [41] years. If possible I would like to try
to see Secretary Baker. There is also another Reagan person whom I would like to add. If you are not going to
interview him, I would also like a chance to see Vincent Cannistraro, who was NSC Director for Intelligence in the
Reagan years. He prepared the findings and helped shaped the approach to counterterrorism. There is someone
currently in government [offlimits to me] whom you should meet, if you haven't already, because of his long
experience in CT. Charles Allen, the current DDCI for collection, was NIO for CT in the Reagan years. According
to Poindexter, he was the first to develop a "hotlink" for the sharing of CT intelligence across the intelligence
community.

I am aiming to be able to give a luncheon talk to Team 3 before the end of the year on Reagan and CT, if you
would like that. If the timing doesn't work, then I could hold off until early January. What you will find useful is that
the principals were asking some of the same questions in 1985-86 that 9-11 forced them to reconsider in
September 2001.

Tim.

11/25/2003
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Timothy J. Naftali
Director
Presidential Recordings Program
Kremlin Decisionmaking Project
Miller Center of Public Affairs
2201 Old Ivy Road
PO Box 400406
Charlottesville, VA 22904

11/25/2003
Mike Hurley
Mike Hurley [mhurley@9-11commission.gov]
>ent: Monday, November 17, 2003 2:18 PM
To: 'Steve Dunne'; mcoleman@9-11commission.gov; dmarcus@9-11commission.gov
Cc: wbass@9-11commission.gov; mhurley@9-11commission.gov
Subject: RE: Naftali's Interview Request

Steve,

I spoke with Tim this afternoon and advised him that, following completion of his
interviews with former officials we have already approved, he should stand down on
submitting additional interview requests.

We agreed, however, that if he could make a compelling argument on the need to interview
one or two more, we would at least consider the request. We, of course, can determine
what is "compelling", and, in any event, retain the right to approve any future requests.

He understood the message, and I do not expect he intends to submit additional requests,
except on the very select basis as noted above.
Mike

Original Message
From: Steve Dunne [mailto:sdunne@9-llcommission.gov]
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 11:41 AM
To: mcoleman@9-llcommission.gov; dmarcus@9-llcommission.gov
Cc: wbass@9-llcommission.gov; mhurley@9-llcommission.gov
Subject: RE: Naftali's Interview Request

-—o?his letter is approved, although the sentence about timing


November/Thanksgiving) may need to be changed. Please make sure Dianna and I get a copy
of the signed letter when it goes out. I hope that Naftali is now done sending out these
letters; if that is wrong, please let me know. Thanks. Steve

Original Message
From: mcoleman@9-llcommission.gov [mailto:mcoleman@9-llcommission.gov]
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 9:49 AM
To: sdunne@9-llcommission.gov; dmarcus@9-llcommission.gov
Cc: wbass@9-llcommission.gov
Subject: Naftali's Interview Request

Steve:

Team 3's part-timer, Tim Naftali has requested review and approval for the
attached interview letter to General Alexander Haig. If you have any
questions, please feel free to contact Warren Bass on x5568.

Thanks Much,

Marquittia
Staff Assistant
Teams 3/4
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Mike Hurley

From: Tucker, David USA [dctucker@nps.navy.mil]


Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 10:44 AM
To: Mike Hurley
Cc: dmarcus@9-11commission.gov
Subject: RE: working for the commission

Mike - I have been in touch with the Clinton Library. The archivist said in an e-mail that they are not subject to
FOIA requests until 2006. I have received some information from Tim Naftali about documents that the National
Security Archive has, some of which may be from the Clinton administration. I'll look through that.

David

Original Message
From: Mike Hurley [mailto:mhurley@9-llcommission.gov]
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 7:38 AM
To: Tucker, David USA
Cc: dmarcus@9-llcommission.gov
Subject: RE: working for the commission

David,

As I said, I forwarded your note to the estimable Dan Marcus.

Dan made a couple of points to me: The Clinton papers are likely not yet available, and the library is not
built yet. Suggest you attempt to find out via telephone which open materials if any are currently available
to scholars.

Re the larger question: Whether the Commission could fund travel for you to locations to research
available documents? Dan said it might be do-able but he reserves judgment until you get the answer
from NPS whether the arrangement you are proposing is ok by them. If you get the green light, Dan
might have to run the travel-funding question by DoD counsel.

Regards,

Mike

Original Message
From: Tucker, David USA [mailto:dctucker@nps.navy.mil]
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 4:22 PM
To: hurley commission
Subject: working for the commission

Mike - I think I have devised an easy way (from NFS' perspective) for me to work with the
commission. Our department has a certain amount of money set aside to cover research
necessary to develop courses for the curriculum. I am supposed to teach a course on USG
responses to terrorism. So, I can do that work on the department's money and share it with the
commission. There is a limit to this money, which means I will not be able to do as much work as
I could have working for the commission. I will cover the period from 1993 to 2001. How does
that sound? I will et back to you with more detail on the work plan. Do you think the commission
would be able to cover the travel and perdiem costs for a research trip to the Clinton papers,
assuming that they are available? That would help.

David

11/17/2003
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Mike Hurley

From: Tucker, David USA [dctucker@nps.navy.mil]


Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 8:07 PM
To: wbass@9-11commission.gov; hurley commission
Subject: working for the commission

Warren -1 called Dan Marcus last Wednesday (I believe). He told me that he had spoken with someone at OSD
and they had concluded that what the lawyer here cited did not apply. The OSD lawyer thought there was a
problem with "double-dipping" (my term), a government employee getting paid twice for doing the same work.
Dan said he thought this was a problem. I explained that the school has a system in place to handle this problem,
to ensure that we do not get paid twice for the work we do. He seemed to think that sounded good. He said he
would get back to me in a day or two with a definitive answer. I have not heard anything. What is your advice?
Should I call him again? Do you want to enquire? I appreciate your help with this.

David

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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:29:47 -0700
From: "Tucker, David USA" <dctucker@nps.navy.mil> <^
To: "" <dmarcus@9-11commission.gov> ^
Cc: "" <mhurley@9-11commission.gov>^, "" <wbass@9-11commission,gov>4|
Subject: work with commission
777/s message was written in a character set other than your own. If it is not displayed correctly, click here to open it in a new
window.

Dan a€" Mike Hurley suggested I check in to see if you had had a chance to follow
up on the issue of whether I can work as a contractor for the Commission. I
realize that this is not the most important issue you are dealing with but I am
concerned, given when the Commission is supposed to end its work, that it is mid-
October and my status remains unclear. If there is anything I might do to help,
let me know.

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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 19:27:15 -0400
From: "" <dmarcus@9-11commission.gov>^
To: "" <mhurley@9-11 commission.gov>^F
Cc: "" <pzelikow@9-11commission.gov>4?, Philip Zelikow <pzelikow@9-11 commission.gov>^?, 'Front Office'
<frontoffice@9-11 commission.gov> &
Subject: RE: Sample letters from Tim Naftali
Go ahead with the letters, we need to add the caveat about the possibility of
a formal commission interview only if we think we are likely to want one. I
had assumed we would with Scowcroft (Team 2?), but maybe not. Check with
Lederman.
Quoting "" <mhurley@9-llcommission.gov>:
> Dan,
>
> Philip explicitly said in our meeting when this came up, and I think you were
>
> present, that Scowcroft was ok.
>
> We can certainly tell Tim to add that the commission may wish to interview
> Scowcroft as well.
>
> I'll follow instructions on this, I just thought I had already been given a
> pretty clear answer.
>
> Mike
>
> Quoting "" <dmarcus@9-llcommission.gov>:
>
> > Wait a minute. I am concerned re Naftali interviewing people we plan to
> > interview, such as Scowcroft. (And I assume we might want to interview
> Crowe
> >
> > or Webster, but I don;'t know.) Are we worried about this? At a minimum,
> > the
> > letters should state that the Commission may want to interview the
> addressee
> >
> > more formally.
> >
> > Quoting Philip Zelikow <pzelikow@9-llcommission.gov>:
> >
> > > Mike --
> > >
> > > I think these letters are OK and can go out on our letterhead.
> > >
> > > Philip
> > >
> > > Original Message
> > > From: mhurley@9-llcommission.gov [mailto:mhurley@9-llcommission.gov]
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 3:49 PM
> > > To: frontoffice@9-llcommission.gov
> > > Cc: mhurley@9-llcommission.gov
> > > Subject: Fwd: Sample letters from Tim Naftali
> > >
> > >
> > > Last week Philip supported in principle that Tim Naftali could request
> > > interviews with former officials in conducting his historical study of CT
>
> > > policy for us. one of the guidelines Philip specified was that Tim
> would
> > > need
> > > to send us his draft letters to obtain our approval (obviously before
> > > sending
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> > > the letters to prospective interviewees).


> > > Attached please find the first batch from Tim. I have looked at them
> and
> > > they
> > > appear o.k. to me. Request FO approval to give Tim the green light on
> > > these.
> > > Mike
> > > Forwarded message from "Timothy 3. Naftali" <tjn3y@virginia.edu>
> > > Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:02:55 -0400
> > > From: "Timothy 3. Naftali" <tjn3y@virginia.edu>
> > > Reply-To: "" <tjn3y@virginia.edu>
> > > subject: sample letters
> > > To: "" <mhurley@9-llcommission.gov>, 'warren Bass'
> > > <warrenbass@hotmail.com>
> > > Dear Mike and Warren,
> > > Here are some sample letters. I need to find correct addresses, but I
> > > wanted to be sure the language of the request was suitable.
> > > Thanks.
> > > Tim.
> > > Timothy 3. Naftali
> > > Di rector
> > > Presidential Recordings Program
> > > Kremlin Decisionmaking Project
> > > Miller Center of Public Affairs
> > > 2201 Old ivy Road
> > > PO Box 400406
> > > Charlottesvilie, VA 22904

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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 12:17:35 -0400
From: "" <mhurley@9-11commission.gov>4|
To: "" <dctucker@nps.navy.mil>(ff,"" <tjn3y@cms.mail.virginia.edu>^
Cc: "" <wbass@9-11commission.gov>^,"" <mcoleman@9-11commission.gov><ff,"" <frontoffice@9-
11 commission .gov> 4P
Subject: Guidelines on Requesting Inteviews
David and Tim,

Commission Executive Director Philip zelikow is supportive of your plans to


interview former USG officials you deem to be important to your respective
historical studies of U.S. counter-terrorism policy undertaken on behalf of the
Commission. He said "we will support your efforts in a solid way."
Here are the guidelines he has established:
in your letters, you must specify that participation in the interview is
voluntary;
your study is historical in nature; and,
YOU will not discuss classified information;
To whom can you send such letters?
--no letters to any former president;
--no letters to James Baker or Dick Cheney;
YOU may request an interview with scowcroft, Al Haig, Shultz, others of that
stature;
You may request interviews with former DCis;
The most important requirement is that all letters must be approved by our
Front Office before you send them. Philip, Chris Kojm, Dan Marcus, and Steve
Dunne must have a chance to review the letters before they are sent.
Once approval is obtained, in many cases you will be able to put the letters on
commission stationery. Philip has already approved a batch of letters for that
treatment.
Please send drafts via email to Warren Bass and I and we will forward to our
Front office for approval.
Suggest you coordinate your interviews among yourselves. For instance, you
both may be interested in talking to General scowcroft, or another
interviewee. Coordinating any such interview is important so that the
interviewee understands the differences in the studies and the areas you intend
to cover.
As these interviews will be unclassified, many of them should be conducted by
telephone. You have been authorized travel funds for visits to presidential
libraries and to conduct other documentary research. Please keep limitations
on travel funding in mind for any trips in connection with interviews. All
travel must follow guidelines detailed in the letters specifying the terms of
your relationships with the commission.
Thanks,
Mike

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Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:49:03 -0400
From: "" <mhurley@9-11commission.gov>4f
To: "" <frontoffice@9-11commission.gov>4P
Cc: "" <mhurley@9-11commission,gov>4f
Subject: Fwd: Sample letters from Tim Naftali
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Last week Philip supported in principle that Tim Naftali could request
interviews with former officials in conducting his historical study of CT
policy for us. One of the guidelines Philip specified was that Tim would need
to send us his draft letters to obtain our approval (obviously before sending
the letters to prospective interviewees).
Attached please find the first batch from Tim. I have looked at them and they
appear O.K. to me. Request FO approval to give Tim the green light on these.
Mike
Forwarded message from "Timothy J. Naftali" <tjn3y@virginia.edu>
Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:02:55 -0400
From: "Timothy J. Naftali" <tjn3y@virginia.edu>
Reply-To: "" <tjn3y@virginia.edu>
Subject: Sample letters
To: "" <mhurley@9-llcommission.gov>, 'warren Bass'
<warrenbass@hotmai1.com>
Dear Mike and warren,
Here are some sample letters. I need to find correct addresses, but I
wanted to be sure the language of the request was suitable.
Thanks.
Tim.
Timothy 3 . Naftali
Di rector
Presidential Recordings Program
Kremlin Decisionmaking Project
Miller center of Public Affairs
2201 Old ivy Road
PO Box 400406
Charlottesville, VA 22904

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Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 15:28:52 -0400
From: "Timothy J. Naftali" <tjn3y@virginia.edu>^
To: "" <mhurley@9-11commission.gov>4P,"" <wbass@9-11commission.gov>^P'
Reply-to: "" <tjn3y@virginia.edu>4|
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Mike and Warren,

Just wanted you to know that the National Security Archive has just put together a collection of 1509 documents
on Counterterrorism policy from 1968 to 2001. I'll be meeting with the director of the N S Archive, Tom Blanton,
on October 16 so that I can make good use of this material.

Tim.
Timothy J. Naftali
Director
Presidential Recordings Program
Kremlin Decisionmaking Project
Miller Center of Public Affairs
2201 Old Ivy Road
PO Box 400406
Charlottesville, VA 22904

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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 11:11:03 -0400
From: "" <mhurley@9-11 commission.gov>4f
To: "" <dctucker@nps.navy.mil><^
Subject: From Mike Hurley
Davi d:

I suggest you send emails directly to dan marcus and cc me and warren bass.
That will help prod him to follow through. He will do it anyway, but you
shooting him an email will encourage him to talk to DoD counsel rapidly.
Dan is out today but will be in on Tuesday.
Suggest you send him an email updating him on discussions at your end and
asking him about how it is going at this end.
the two emails are: dmarcus@9-llcommission.gov
and
wbass@9-llcommi ssion.gov
Thanks,
Mike

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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 09:46:01 -0400
From: "Timothy J. Naftali" <tjn3y@virginia.edu>^P
To: "" <mhurley@9-11commission.gov>^l
Reply-to: "" <tjn3y@virginia.edu>^
Subject: RE: Sample letters
Thanks.

It would be great to receive preapproval, so that once the letterhead


arriyes I can start sending these out. But if preapproval is not
possible, then I can send the final, signed letters back to the FO.
Tim.

Original Message
From: mhurley@9-llcommission.gov [mai1to:mhurley@9-llcommi ssi on.gov]
Sent: Monday, pctober 06, 2003 9:06 AM
To: tjn3y@virginia.edu; Timothy J. Naftali
Cc: 'Warren Bass'
Subject: Re: Sample letters

Tim,
Got your letters. Will float them by the Front Office (FO) pronto.
will
advise.
Mike
Quoting "Timothy J. Naftali" <tjn3y@virginia.edu>:
> Dear Mike and Warren,
>
> Here are some sample letters. I need to find correct addresses, but I
> wanted to be sure the language of the request was suitable.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tim.
>
> Timothy J. Naftali
> Director
> Presidential Recordings Program
> Kremlin Decisionmaking Project
> Miller Center of Public Affairs
> 2201 Old ivy Road
> PO Box 400406
> Char!ottesvilie, VA 22904

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From: "Timothy J. Naftali" <tjn3y@virginia.edu>4P'
To: "" <mhurley@9-11 commission.gov>^, 'Warren Bass' <warrenbass@hotmail.com>4P
Reply-to: "" <tjn3y@virginia.edu>^
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Dear Mike and Warren,

Here are some sample letters. I need to find correct addresses, but I wanted to be sure the language of the
request was suitable.

Thanks.

Tim.
Timothy J. Naftali
Director
Presidential Recordings Program
Kremlin Decisionmaking Project
Miller Center of Public Affairs
2201 Old Ivy Road
PO Box 400406
Charlottesville, VA 22904

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Dear Judge Webster:

The 9-11 Commission had asked me to undertake a study of the evolution of US


counterterrorism policy and strategy from 1968 through 1993. This will be an
unclassified study based upon open sources, declassified records and interviews with
many of the principals from the Johnson through Bush (41) administrations. The study
will be drawn upon for part of the Commission's report. Nevertheless participation in the
interviews is purely voluntary.

I live in the District and would like to meet with you at your convenience to discuss how
the FBI and the CIA both viewed the problem of counterterrprism in the Reagan and
Bush (41) administrations. I can be reached atj [

By way of background, I am an historian of US-Soviet relations and the history of US


intelligence. In 1997 I co-authored "One Hell of a Gamble:" Khrushchev, Castro and
Kennedy, 1958-1964, which was published by W. W. Norton! I am currently writing the
George H. W. Bush biography for the American Presidency series.

Thank you for considering this request. \,


Dear Admiral Crowe:

The 9-11 Commission has asked me to undertake a study of the evolution of US


counterterrorism policy and strategy from 1968 through 1993. This will be an
unclassified study based upon open sources, declassified records and interviews with
many of the principals from the Johnson through Bush administrations. The study may be
drawn upon for part of the Commission's report, but participation in the interviews is
purely voluntary.

I live in the District and would like to meet with you at your convenience to discuss how
the principals viewed the problem of counterterrorism in the Reagan administration. One
of my case studies will be the US response to Libyan support for international terrorism. I
will be traveling to the Reagan and Bush libraries in November but could easily arrange a
time before Thanksgiving, if you schedule permits.

You have played a significant role in preparing the military for the counterterrorism
mission and witnessed how more than one administration handled this problem. It would
therefore be of immense value to me if we could sit down and discuss this matter at your
convenience.

By way of background, I am an historian of US-Soviet relations and the history of US


intelligence. In 1997 I co-authored "One Hell of a Gamble: "Khrushchev, Castro and
Kennedy, 1958-1964, which was published by W. W. Norton. I am currently writing the
George H. W. Bush biography for the American Presidency series.

Thank you for considering this request.

Sincerely,
Dear General Scowcroft,

I hope you received the packet of clippings from the Miller Center on our announcement
of the Kremlin documents project. I am very grateful to you for the support that you have
always shown for that project. These days I am wearing a different hat and it is in this
new context that I write to you today.

The 9-11 Commission has asked me to undertake a study of the evolution of US


counterterrorism policy and strategy from 1968 through 1993. This will be an
unclassified study based upon open sources, declassified records and interviews with
many of the principals from the Johnson through Bush administrations. The study may be
drawn upon for part of the Commission's report, but participation in the interviews is
purely voluntary.

You are one of the very few in Washington who has witnessed and influenced our
counterterrorism policy over several administrations. It would be of immense value to me
if we could sit down and discuss this matter at your convenience.

I will be traveling to the Reagan and Bush libraries in November but could easily arrange
a time before Thanksgiving, if your schedule permits. Otherwise we could meet in
December.

Thank you for considering this request and again I do appreciate all the help you gave me
on the Kremlin project.

Sincerely,

Tim Naftali
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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 12:55:06 -0400
From: "" <dmarcus@9-11commission.gov>4P
To: "" <sdunne@9-11commission.gov>^,"" <mhurley@9-11 commission.gov>^
Subject: Fwd: RE: 9-11 commission
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Tucker, trying to be helpful, has triggered an unhelpful email from Mr.


Lincoln. I told Lincoln yesterday that m,y view was that we were not subject
to these regularions, which apply only to the Exec. Branch, and did not need to
mkake a formal determination of unique need (which I am reluctant to do,
because Lincoln told me the Secretary of Navy would still have to be satisfied
on our need). Since Lincoln seemed unconvinced by (or did not understand) my
argument that we weren't covered, I told him I would talk to someone in DOD'S
GC office here.
Forwarded message from "Lincoln, Don USA" <DLincoln@nps.navy.mil>
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 09:17:26 -0700
From: "Lincoln, Don USA" <DLincoln@nps.navy.mil>
Reply-To: "Lincoln, Don USA" <DLincoln@nps.navy.mil>
Subject: RE: 9-11 commission
To: "Elster, Richard USA" <RElster@nps.navy.mil>
Dick,
The 9-11 Commission needs to comply with the Code of Federal Regulations
(CFR) governing this situation. They need to send us authorization
approved by the Secretary of the Agency or a designated Contracting
officer that has followed the CFR requirements set forth in 48 CFR 9.5.
The 9-11 Commission needs to follow the regulations and then, after the
procedures are completed, send us a copy of the determinations as set
forth in the regulations. I am sending a copy of this e-mail to the 9-11
Commission General Counsel.
See attached information from those regulations.
Don

«DOD 5500.7-R AND 48 CFR 3.601.doc» «TITLE 48 CFR 9.5 CONSULTANTS


CONFLICT OF INTEREST. doc»

> Original
> From: Elster, Richard USA
> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 7:58 AM
> To: Lincoln, Don USA
> Cc: Tucker, David USA
> Subject: FW: 9-11 commission
> Don: let me know if I can help.
> original Message
> From: Tucker, David USA
> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 7:47 AM
> TO: Lincoln, Don USA
> cc: Elster, Richard USA
> Subject: 9-11 commission

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> Don -- I understand that the Commission is willing to send a letter


> addressing the issues that you raised in your opinion about whether I
> can work under a contract for the commission. Should the letter be
> addressed to you or the Provost, as the person who ultimately makes
> the decision? I am in class from 0800-1000 today but could come by
> any time after that to talk about this, if you think that would be
> useful.
>
> David
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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 1 0:1 7:57 -0700
From: "Tucker, David USA" <dctucker@nps.navy.mil>^P
To: hurley commission <mhurley@9-1 1commission.gov>^
Subject: FW: 9-1 1 commission
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Mike -- just so you know what is going on.


David
> ----- original Message -----
> From: Lincoln, Don USA
> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 9:17 AM
> TO: Elster, Richard USA
> Cc: Tucker, David USA; Dan Marcus (E-mail)
> Subject: RE: 9-11 commission
>
> Dick,
>
> The 9-11 Commission needs to comply with the Code of Federal
> Regulations (CFR) governing this situation. They need to send us
> authorization approved by the Secretary of the Agency or a designated
> Contracting Officer that has followed the CFR requirements set forth
> in 48 CFR 9.5.
>
> The 9-11 Commission needs to follow the regulations and then, after
> the procedures are completed, send us a copy of the determinations as
> set forth in the regulations. I am sending a copy of this e-mail to
> the 9-11 Commission General Counsel.
>
> See attached information from those regulations.
>
> Don

> «DOD 5500.7-R AND 48 CFR 3.601.doc» «TITLE 48 CFR 9.5 CONSULTANTS
> CONFLICT OF INTEREST. doc»

> ----- Original Message -----


> From: Elster, Richard USA
> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 7:58 AM
> To: Lincoln, Don USA
> Cc: Tucker, David USA
> Subject: FW: 9-11 commission
>
> Don: let me know if I can help.
>
> ----- original Message -----
> From: Tucker, David USA
> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 7:47 AM
> To: Lincoln, Don USA
> Cc: Elster, Richard USA
> Subject: 9-11 commission
>
> Don -- I understand that the commission is willing to send a letter
> addressing the issues that you raised in your opinion about whether I
> can work under a contract for the commission, should the letter be

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> addressed to you or the Provost, as the person who ultimately makes
> the decision? I am in class from 0800-1000 today but could come by
> any time after that to talk about this, if you think that would be
> useful.
>
> David

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Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 06:37:24 -0700
From: "Tucker, David USA" <dctucker@nps.navy.mil>#
To: "" <mhurley@9-11commission.gov>^?
Subject: RE: contract
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window.

Mike -- I am teaching a special course this week. I will be in class just about
all day Monday and Tuesday and all morning Wednesday. I will check e-mail and
phone messages at lunch time.
David
Original Message
From: [mai1 to:mhurley@9-llcommi ssi on.gov]
Sent: Fri 9/26/2003 4:01 PM
TO: Tucker, David USA
Cc:
Subject: Re: contract

Davi d:
thanks. I got it. Let's talk on Monday. Maybe you could be a
"subcontractor"
to Naftali, and that wouldn't be under our control, your relationship
would be
with him not with the Commission, haven't run that by the lawyers, but
maybe
there's an outside chance. Look forward to hearing the ideas you refer
to.
Enjoy the weekend. Time enough to worry about this on Monday.
Regards,
Mike
Quoting "Tucker, David USA" <dctucker@nps.navy.mil>:
> Mike -- I sent the fax. I think your plan is the best way to go. if it
> works it will probably be the fastest and most efficient way to get the
work
> done, if it doesn't work, there might be some alternatives, which we can
> discuss if we have to.
>
> David

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Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 00:45:19 -0400
From: "Timothy J. Naftali" <tjn3y@virginia.edu>^
To: "" <mhurley@9-11commission.gov>^,"" <wbass@9-11commission.gov>#
Cc: "" <naftali@virginia.edu>4P
Reply-to: "" <tjn3y@virginia.edu>#
Subject: RE: Fwd: Today

Dear Mike and warren,


To further my work on the background study for you, I would like to
start sending letters out to request interviews with the key surviving
principals from my period.
As of his moment, I have formulated the following wishlist.
pres. Jimmy carter
Pres. George H. w. Bush
Henry Kissinger
zbigniew Brzezinski
Brent Scowcroft
George Shultz
Admiral John Poindexter
Frank Carlucci
Lawrence Eagleburger
James Baker
Melvin Laird
James Schlesinger
Harold Brown
Casper Weinberger
Admiral William Crowe (ret)
General David Jones (ret.)
General John vessey, Jr. (ret.)
Gen. Paul X. Kelley (ret.)
Gen. Alfred M. Gray, Jr. (ret.)
William Webster
William sessions
stansfield Turner
Robert Gates
William Odom
Admiral John Poindexter

As I wrote, this is a wishlist: and I doubt there is enough time to reach


all of these people. But I think it would be worthwhile to write to all
of them to see who might be available to meet. AS we discussed last
week, it would be useful for me to have some approved language that I
could drop into each letter that explains precisely my link to the
Commission, in addition to the principals who respond favorably to my
request, I will be approaching some second-tier NSC, state, CIA and FBI
types to round out the picture.
Thanks for your help.
Tim.

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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 19:01:59-0400
From: "" <mhurley@9-11 commission.gov>4|
To: "Tucker, David USA" <dctucker@nps.navy.mil><?
Cc: "" <mhurley@9-11 commission,gov>^
Subject: Re: contract
Davi d:

thanks. I got it. Let's talk on Monday. Maybe you could be a "subcontractor"
to Naftali, and that wouldn't be under our control, your relationship would be
with him not with the Commission, haven't run that by the lawyers, but maybe
there's an outside chance. Look forward to hearing the ideas you refer to.
Enjoy the weekend. Time enough to worry about this on Monday.
Regards,
Mike
Quoting "Tucker, David USA" <dctucker@nps.navy.mil>:
> Mike -- I sent the fax. I think your plan is the best way to go. if it
> works it will probably be the fastest and most efficient way to get the work
> done. If it doesn't work, there might be some alternatives, which we can
> discuss if we have to.
>
> David

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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:49:28 -0700
From: "Tucker, David USA" <dctucker@nps.navy,mil>^P
To: hurley commission <mhurley@9-11commission.gov>^, hurley hot <mihurley@hotmaii.com>4l
Subject: contract
Mike -- I sent the fax. I think your plan is the best way to go. if it works it
will probably be the fastest and most efficient way to get the work done. If it
doesn't work, there might be some alternatives, which we can discuss if we have
to.
David

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From The Department of Defense Analysis

Naval Postgraduate School


Monterey CA

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Phone: Fax:

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Phone:

Date: IjSLLht Number of a.


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18 Sept. 2003

MEMORANDUM

From: Command Ethics Counselor


To: Provost, Code 01

Subj: REQUEST TO ENGAGE IN OUTSIDE EMPLOYMENT - DAVID TUCKER

Ref: (a) Associate Professor David Tucker's application of September 3, 2003


(b) DoD Dir 5500.7-R (Joint Ethics Regulation)
(c) 48 CFR Subpart 3.6, Contracts with Government Employees

1. I have received and reviewed reference (a). Based upon the information provided in
reference (a), that David Tucker, Associate Professor in the Defense Analysis Department, will
be employed as a Consultant by the National Commission on the Terrorist Attacks upon the
Um'ied States to prepare a monograph for the Commission covering U.S. counterterroism policy
from 1983 - 1998, for one day per week. Since the "National Commission on Terrorist Attacks
upon the United States" is a federal agency, I opine that the planned activities are not permitted.
Reference (b), at Section 5-402, prohibits contracting for the procurement of goods and services
between the Federal Government and its employees, unless the needs of the Federal Government
cannot otherwise be met (emphasis added). In addition, reference (c), at 3.601, provides that a
Contracting Office shall not award a contract to a Government employee. That policy is
intended to avoid the appearance of favoritism or preferential treatment by the Government
toward its employees. There are provisions in reference (c), however, where the Aagency head
or a designeeS may authorize an exception to the policy in 3.601 Aonly if there is a most
compelling reason to do so, such as when the Govemment=s needs cannot reasonably be
otherwise met@ (Reference (c), 3.602).

2. If the National Commission on the Terrorist Attacks upon the United States should determine
that it cannot obtain any other consultants to perform the services in question, then that agency
needs to comply with the waiver provisions set forth in references (b) and (c) in order to hire
David Tucker on a contract basis.

3. I recommend that, you disapprove the request for outside employment as it is contrary to
federal regulations.

4. If you have any questions, please call me at (831) 656-3356 or DSN 756-3356.

Very respectfully,

D. E. LINCOLN
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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:54:39 -0400
From: "Timothy J. Naftali" <tjn3y@virginia.edu>4P
To: "" <wbass@9-11commission.gov>^?
Cc: "" <mhurley@9-11commission.gov>^l
Reply-to: "" <tjn3y@virginia.edu>'S'
Subject: RE: Fwd: Today

Dear warren,
Thanks for the note. I just wasn't sure whether email would be too
insecure for discussions of something that was commission sensitive.
in reading the outline and the back sections, I wondered whether you
would want me to focus on any historical issues in the US-Saudi or
us-israeli relationship. The latter relationship is not mentioned in the
draft but I assume that it lies somewhere in the background.
Have a good weekend.
Tim.
Original Message
From: wbass@9-llcommission.gov [mai1 to:wbass@9-llcommi ssion.gov]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 12:08 PM
To: tin3y@virginia.edu
Cc: mnurley@9-llcommission.gov
subject: Re: Fwd: Today

Many thanks to you, too, Tim--we're all looking forward to working with
you.
Feel free to be in touch re the outline however 's best for you—email,
phone,
meeting, whatever. (I'm over at NEOB much of next week, though.) The
back
sections of the outline, in particular, are just to get your juices
flowing; if
there's stuff we've forgotten or mischaracterized, just let us know what
you
think makes more sense.
Best,
Warren

Quoting warren Bass <warrenbass@hotmail .com>:

> >From: "Timothy J. Naftali" <tjn3y@vi rginia.edu>


> >Reply-To: <tjn3y@vi rgirna.edu>
> >TO: "'warren Bass'"
> xwarrenbassdhotmail .com>,<mhurley@9-llcommission.gov>
> >subject: Today

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> >Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 17:41:16 -0400


> >
> >
> >Mi ke and warren,
> >
> >Thanks for the very good meeting,
> >
> >I have some comments in reaction to the outline and how it might
> >shape the questions I will be asking.
> >
> >What is the correct protocol? May I use email to conduct this
> >discussion with you or must we do this on landlines or in person?
> >
> >Aqain, I feel that our conversation today and my reading this
> >afternoon sharpened my understanding of the kind of work product that
> >would be most useful for Team 3.
> >
> >I will take some time this weekend to draft language regarding
> interviews and declass requests for submission to the front office.
> >
> >Best,
> >
> >Tim.

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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 1 1 :53:54 -0400
From: "" <mhurley@9-11commission,gov>4P
To: Tracy Shycoff <tshycoff@9-1 1 commission. gov>4P
Cc: "" <mcolernan@9-11cornmission.gov>4F, "" <kheitkotter@ 9-11 commission.gov> <#
Subject: Re: David Tucker
Hi Tracy:

Thanks for your note. Yes, Tim Naftali did sign his contract and I think Karen
is waiting for Philip's signature. Team 3 also met with Tim yesterday.
Regarding David Tucker, I have been in touch with him and I also have a call
pending with him, I left a voice mail yesterday. His process is slowed down
because he submitted this arrangement, as he is required to do, for review by
the Naval Postgraduate School where he is a faculty member. There may be a
glitch which might prevent him from doing what we ask. I am waiting to hear,
he will advise one he has heard at his end. I still have my fingers crossed.
if it doesn't work out, we may need to adapt, one possibility might be just to
have Naftali cover the years Tucker was going to cover. Naftali is open to
that, if that happens we would need to change the contract, but that should be
a fairly easy matter of just adding a modification or two.
I'm still hopeful about Tucker. I'll let you know as soon as I hear anything
Tracy.
Regards,
Mike
Quoting Tracy Shycoff <tshycoff@9-llcommission.gov>:
> I have not heard from Mr. Tucker in regards to his contract, if you speak
> with him could you please ask him to contact me? Thanks.

> Did Tim Naftali sign his contract yesterday?


>
>
>
> Tracy 3 Shycoff
>
> Deputy for Administration and Finance
>
> National Commission on Terrorist Attacks
>
> Upon the United states
> 202-401-1718
> 202-358-3124

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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:04:35 -0400
From: "" <wbass@9-11commission.gov>^
To: "" <team3@9-11commission.gov>4f
Cc: "" <tjn3y@virginia.edu>^
Subject: Naftali
Just a quick point of follow-up from our terrific meeting yesterday with Tim
Naftali, who, as you know, will be writing much of our background monograph
sections.
As you move through your research, if there are major themes or issues that
you'd like to see Tim trace back into the post-1968 period, please drop him a
line at the above email (cc'ed to me and Mike). Some themes we've already
mentioned are how DOD came to view terrorism as beyond its purview, the origins
of the FBI-CIA rivalry on CT, the legacies of Beirut and the 1986 Libya raids,
and so on.
Thanks, guys--and thanks again to Tim for taking up such a vital piece of our
puzzle.
Best,
warren

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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:07:51 -0400
From: "" <wbass@9-11commission.gov>4P
To: "" <tjn3y@virginia.edu>4P
Cc: "" <mhurley@9-11commission.gov>^P
Subject: Re: Fwd: Today

Many thanks to you, too, Tim- -we 're all looking forward to working with you.
Feel free to be in touch re the outline however 's best for you—email, phone,
meeting, whatever. (I'm over at NEOB much of next week, though.) The back
sections of the outline, in particular, are just to get your juices flowing; if
there's stuff we've forgotten or mischaracterized, just let us know what you
think makes more sense.
Best,
Warren

Quoting warren Bass <warrenbass@hotmail .com>:

> >From: "Timothy J. Naftali" <tjn3y@vi rginia.edu>


> >Reply-To: <tjn3y@vi rginia.edu>
> >TO: "'warren Bass'" <warrenbass@hotmail . com>,<mhurley@9-llcommission.gov>
> >Subject: Today
> >Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 17:41:16 -0400
> >
> >
> >Mi ke and warren,
> >
> >Thanks for the very good meeting.
> >
> >I have some comments in reaction to the outline and how it might shape
> >the questions I will be asking.
> >
> >what is the correct protocol? May I use email to conduct this discussion
> >with you or must we do this on landlines or in person?
> >
> >Again, I feel that our conversation today and my reading this afternoon
> >sharpened my understanding of the kind of work product that would be
> >most useful for Team 3.
> >
> >i will take some time this weekend to draft language regarding
> >interviews and dec! ass requests for submission to the front office.
> >
> >Best,
> >
> >Tim,

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"* UNITE0'

Thomas H. Kean September 9, 2003


CHAIR

Lee H. Hamilton
VICE CHAIR
Dr. David Tucker
Richard Ben-Veniste Code CC/TD
Naval Postgraduate School
Max Cleland
589 Dyer Road
Frederick F. Fielding Monterey, CA 93943
Jamie S. Gorelick
Dear Dr. Tucker:
Slade Gorton
On behalf of the Commission's staff, I want to thank you for taking the time
John F. Lehman to interview with us on September 5, 2003. We enjoyed meeting with you and
Timothy J. Roemer learning about your views on DoD counterterrorism strategies. The interview
also provided helpful insight for our mission.
James R. Thompson

Again, thank you for giving us the opportunity to meet with you and we look
Philip D. Zelikow forward to working with you in the near future.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR

Bonnie Jenkins
Counsel
International Counterterrorism Policy Team

301 7lh Street SW, Room 5125


Washington, DC 20407
T 202.331.4060 F 202.296.5545
www.9-1 lcommission.gov
, 2003 Page 1 of 1

'September 8, 2003

Dr. David Tucker

Code CC/TD

Naval Postgraduate School

589 Dyer Road

Monterey, CA 93943 /\)

Dear Dr. Tucker: «

On behalf of^e Commission's staff, I write to thank you for yow interview with us on September 5,
2003. We enjoyed meeting with you and learning about your vievvjon'counterterrorism strategies. The
interview provided helpful insighfjp our mission in Hairalnp n nnmprftVipnrTJvp rniintprtfrrnn'im policy to
future t^rrnrinm nttnrl"?

Again, thank you for giving us the opportunity to meet with you and we look forward to working with
you in the near future.

Sincerely,

Bonnie Jenkins

Professional Staff Member

International Counterterrorism Policy Team

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Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2003 17:06:49 -0700
From: "Tucker, David USA" <dctucker@nps.navy.mil>4P
To: Michael Hurley <mihurley@hotmail.com>4f,"" <mhurley@9-11commission.gov>4l
Subject: RE: Thanks David

Mike -- It was my pleasure to make the trip. Meeting and talking with Bonnie,
Alexis and Warren was very helpful.

I spent some time on the return trip thinking about the monograph. First, as
regards possible objections to me doing it, it seems to me that we can argue that
there is a difference between what I did Friday and what I will do on the
monograph. On Friday I was asked about my experiences in OSD, so it was
appropriate for the OSD lawyer to be there and for you to work through OSD to
contact me and arrange the interview. When I am working on the monograph, I will
not be doing anything based on work I did in OSD. I will be working on
documentary material in presidential libraries and in open sources. This has
nothing to do with what I did in OSD. Furthermore, I will not be doing this as a
government employee but as a private scholar (we will soon have the documents form
NFS to prove this).

In principle, it seems to me that no one has grounds to object given this


understanding of my work as a consultant for the commission. As a practical
matter of course, the commission will have to decide whether they want to risk
whatever political fallout might occur from having me work as a consultant despite
White House or DoD opposition. NFS would probably give in immediately, even if
they have signed off on the paperwork, if someone from the WH or DoD tells them
that I should not do it. Personally, I hope the commission will not back down and
will push back so that I can do this work. I flatter myself I suppose, but I do
think I have some unique qualifications for doing it.

As for the points I need you to address:

1) When I speak to archivists, how should I identify myself? As a consultant


working for the commission, I presume, but are their any additional disclaimers
that I should offer to make it clear that I do not share in the authority of the
commission?

2) A possible letter of introduction signed by someone on the commission staff


(perhaps you) that I could fax to archivists or potential interviewees, if they
request it. (We can certainly wait to see if such requests develop. I could
write the letter and you could review it.)

3) If the Clinton library has done little work on organizing and declassifying
its documents, it might be necessary for the commission to send them a letter
asking that they make work on terrorism related materials a priority.

4) I have spoken of interviewing people. I assume some of this will be


necessary. We (Bonnie, Alexis and Warren) that I should send a list of people I
might like to talk to and that we would coordinate to make sure that we didn't get
in each others way. That sounds like a good plan to me.

Monday morning, I will start phoning archivists at the Reagan, Bush and Clinton
libraries. This will be just to get a sense of what information is available.
After that I will contact you and we can decide what needs to be done about 1, 2
and 3 above.

I have received the hard copy of the letter and a copy of the Martha Crenshaw
article. It is a good and thoughtful analysis. I have cited it in something I

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wrote recently. When that is a bit more polished, I will send it to you. It is
called "The Politics of COunterterrorism." The principle question it addresses is
why was not more done to counter al Qaeda.

David

Original Message
From: Michael Hurley [mailto:mihurley@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 3:43 PM
To: Tucker, David USA
Subject: Thanks David

Sunday, September 7, 2003


>Falls Church, Virginia

>David:

>Thank you so much for coming to do the interview with Team 3. It was most
>helpful and we appreciate that you came such a long way and made time for
>us

>despite the disruption to your schedule.

>My apologies for being tied up so long in the meeting at the State
>Department. I would have enjoyed spending far more time with you during
>your visit. The schedule just got away from me last Friday.

>We look forward to your work on the monograph. Please send as soon as you
>are able the points you would like us to address that will ease your task.
>I will pass them to our front office and get the necessary policy/legal
>decisions.

>Thanks again.

>Warm regards,

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 09:13:35 -0700 .......... ....... -.-..........................X"9'11 Personal

From: "Tucker, David USA1


To: "" <bjenkins@9-11commission.gov>^
Cc: "" <mhurley@9-11commission.gov>4P
Subject: interview
I have the e-ticket and will arrive at the Commission offices (301 7th Street SW,
Room 5125) for the 1000 interview Friday morning... If anyone needs to contact me, I
will be arriving late Thursday evening at the Courtyard Hotel in Crystal City
(703-549-3434) . My cell phone is | |.
David

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Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 11:57:27 -0400
From: "" <wbass@9-11 commission.gov>4?
To: "" <mhurley@9-11commission.gov>4F
Subject: Naftali

FYI, Mike.

Forwarded message from "Timothy J. Naftali" <tjn3y@virginia.edu>


Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 12:12:07 -0400
From: "Timothy J. Naftali" <tjn3y@virginia.edu>
Reply-To: "" <tjn3y@virginia.edu>
Subject: RE: PS
To: "" <wbass@9-llcommission.gov>

Hi from Whistler,

The letter from Mike arrived and it is just right.

Got your style suggestion... Need I say more?

Best wishes for the long weekend,

Tim.

Original Message
From: wbass@9-llcommission.gov [mailto:wbass@9-llcommission.gov]
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 3:31 PM
To: tjn3y@cms.mail.virginia.edu
Subject: PS

Great seeing you the other night, Tim, and delighted to have you working
with
us. One side point I forgot to mention: you might want to look at
"Germany
Unified and Europe Transformed" as a model for footnoting of documents
and
overall approach. It's likely to loom large in our collective
consciousness
around here...

Cheers,
Warren

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Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 12:09:24-0400
From: "Timothy J. Naftali" <tjn3y@virginia.edu>^
To: "" <mhurley@9-11commission.gov><ff
Reply-to: "" <tjn3y@virginia.edu>4P
Subject: RE: Letter from the Commission
Dear Mike,

This excellent letter sets in motion a wonderful project for me. I am


grateful for the opportunity, not least because it will afford me the
chance to work closely with the impressive professionals of Team 3. You
are doing about the most important work by any group of analysts in the
US government.

Have a great holiday weekend.

Tim.

Original Message
From: mhurley@9-llcommission.gov [mailto:mhurley@9-llcommission.gov]
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 5:56 PM
To: tjn3y@cms.mail.virginia.edu
Subject: Letter from the Commission

Hi Tim:

Just wanted to let you know that the Commission's lawyers approved today
the
letter I drafted formalizing our agreement with you on the monograph.

We are sending you the signed letter (to your Mintwood Place address)
via U.S.
mail.

I have attached an unsigned electronic version of the same letter to


this
email. Please consider that an informal, drop copy.

Enjoy the Labor Day weekend.

Regards,

Mike Hurley

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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 14:37:23-0700
From: "Tucker, David USA" <dctucker@nps.navy.mil><P
To: "" <mhurley@9-11 commission.gov> ^
Subject: RE: Letter from the Commission
Mike -- Thanks. I just picked up the fax. Have a. good weekend. We'll talk next
week.

David

Original Message
From: [mailto:mb.urley®9-11 commission, gov]
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 2:30 PM
To: Tucker, David USA
Subject: Letter from the Commission

David,

We will be faxing you today the Commission's letter formalizing its request for
you to write a monograph on U.S. counterterrorism policy covering the years
1983 through 1998.

We will also send you this same letter via U.S. mail.

I have attached the unsigned letter to this email. Consider this version an
informal, drop copy of what you will be getting by fax and regular mail.

I'm happy we were able to push this out. The lawyers chopped on it just
today.

I hope you and family have a nice Labor Day holiday.

Let's talk about all of this on Monday.

Regards,

Mike

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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 17:55:39 -0400
From: "" <mhurley@9-11 commission,gov>4f
To: "" <tjn3y@cms.mail.virginia.edu>^
Subject: Letter from the Commission
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Hi Tim:

Just wanted to let you know that the Commission's lawyers approved today the
letter I drafted formalizing our agreement with you on the monograph.

We are sending you the signed letter (to your Mintwood Place address) via U.S.
mail.

I have attached an unsigned electronic version of the same letter to this


email. Please consider that an informal, drop copy.

Enjoy the Labor Day weekend.

Regards,

Mike Hurley

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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 17:30:06 -0400
From: "" <mhurley@9-11commission.gov>4|
To: "" <dctucker@nps.navy.mil><S
Subject: Letter from the Commission
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David,

We will be faxing you today the Commission's letter formalizing its request for
you to write a monograph on U.S. counterterrorism policy covering the years
1983 through 1998.

We will also send you this same letter via U.S. mail.

I have attached the unsigned letter to this email. Consider this version an
informal, drop copy of what you will be getting by fax and regular mail.

I'm happy we were able to push this out. The lawyers chopped on it just
today.

I hope you and family have a nice Labor Day holiday.

Let's talk about all of this on Monday.

Regards,

Mike

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Thomas H. Kean
August 29, 2003
CHAIR
Dr. David Tucker
Lee H. Hamilton
VICE CHAIR Code CC/TD
Naval Postgraduate School
Richard Ben-Veniste
589 Dyer Road
Max Cleland Monterey, CA 93943
Frederick F. Fielding Dear Dr. Tucker:
Jamie S. Oorelick
The National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States,
Slade Gorton impressed with your previous published study of United States
John F. Lehman
counterterrorism policy, "Skirmishes at the Edge of Empire," and aware of
your unique government and academic credentials and achievements, requests
Timothy J. Roemer that you research and write a monograph for use by the Commission in
James R. Thompson
preparing its report to the American public and government.

Specifically, the Commission requests that you examine U.S. counterterrorism


Philip D. Zelikow
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
policy before and after the end of the Cold War. Your review should cover
the period from the Beirut bombings of 1983 through 1998. Please assess the
importance of terrorism in overall U.S. foreign policy with a focus on the
most senior policy makers. How did successive administrations during this
period respond to terrorism? Was it a minor concern or a major driver of
policy? What was the impact of the end of the Cold War? Also, please
examine what policy makers saw as the primary threat. Was terrorism viewed
solely as part of the U.S.-Soviet struggle, an issue of concern with rogue
states, or a domestic problem? Did Sunni militant extremism register as a
problem with policy makers? How was al-Qaida viewed as it emerged in the
1990s?
•0>»W -

We are particularly interested in the evolution of U.S. counterterrorism


strategy during this time. Did policy makers see terrorism as a criminal matter
or a national security concern? How did they fight terrorism—through law
enforcement, intelligence, military strikes, or other means? Which agencies
took the lead, and how did they coordinate with each other?

Finally, we seek your assessment of the effectiveness of overall U.S.


counterterrorism policy during this period. Did it reduce terrorism and
advance other U.S. interests? Did it properly draw on all elements of U.S.
national power? What, if anything, hindered the emergence of a more
effective policy?

301 7 lh Street SW, Room 5125


Washington, DC 20407
T 202.331.4060 F 202.296.5545
www.9-llcommission.gov
August 29,2003
Page 2

In addition to answering these questions, please provide additional analysis of important


issues that you identify; we want to be open to what you discover in your work. Please
keep us informed as your work progresses so we can offer our input and so your research
in open sources can aid our ongoing investigation.

Your final draft should be between 40,000 and 50,000 words. The due date for your
monograph is January 31, 2004. To assist us, we request that you create and draft your
monograph in Microsoft Word. In the near future we will be providing you with more
specific stylistic, footnoting, and sourcing guidance.

For the purpose of the work described above, and under the authority of PL 107-306,
dated 11/14/02, establishing the Commission, you will be a "consultant" for the
Commission. The Commission will pay you at the rate of $64.42 per hour, not to exceed
a total of $20,000. You will also be reimbursed for reasonable expenses related to your
work. Please contact Tracy Shycoff, Deputy for Administration and Finance, at 202-401-
1718 or via email at tshycoff@9-l lcommission.gov, to finalize the contract and discuss
billing arrangements.

The Commission recognizes that to carry out your research and writing tasks, you will
need to travel and work at presidential libraries and other U.S. locations where important
documents reside. We request that you book all travel and lodging through the
Commission's administrative officer to ensure you are accorded government rates. You
will be required to submit receipts for any travel associated with carrying out your work.

Upon completion of the work contracted for, it will become the property of the
Commission and its ultimate treatment in the Commission's final report will be at the
sole discretion of Commissioners. As with all other Commission work product, author
credit also remains at the discretion of Commissioners.

Commission Senior Counsel Michael Hurley (telephone: 202-331-4077; email:


mhurley@9-l lcommission.gov) and Professional Staff Member Warren Bass (telephone:
202-296- 5568; email: wbass@9-l lcommission.gov) will be your points of contact and
will work closely with you on this project. Please call them should you have a»y
questions.

We look forward to our association with you and to the results of your work on behalf of
the Commission.

Sincerely,

Philip Zelikow
Executive Director
9/11 Personal Privacy

Thomas H. Kean
August 29, 2003
CHAIR
Dr. Timothy J. Naftali
Lee H. Hamilton
VICE CHAIR

Richard Ben-Veniste

Max Cleland
Dear Dr. Naftali,
Frederick F. Fielding

Jamie S. Gore lick The National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States,
impressed with your previous published scholarship, your unique academic
Slade Gorton credentials and achievements, your work as a consultant to the Imperial
John F. Lehman
Japanese and Nazi War Criminal Records Interagency Working Group, your
expertise in presidential decision-making from your direction of the Miller
Timothy J. Roemer Center Presidential Recordings Program, and your ongoing scholarship on
James R. Thompson
counterintelligence and counterterrorism, requests that you research and write
a monograph for use by the Commission in preparing its report to the
American public and government.
Philip D. Zelikow
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
Specifically, the Commission requests that you examine U.S. counterterrorism
policy during the second half of the Cold War, particularly from 1968 (often
considered the birth of modern terrorism) to January 1993 (the end of
President George H.W. Bush's administration). In your work, please assess
the importance of terrorism in overall U.S. foreign policy with a focus on the
most senior policy makers. How did successive administrations during this
period respond to terrorism? Was it a minor concern or a major driver of
policy? What was the impact of the Cold War? Also, please examine what
policy makers saw as the primary threat. Was terrorism viewed solely as part
of the U.S.-Soviet struggle, an issue of concern with rogue states, or a
domestic problem? •*•

We are particularly interested in the evolution of U.S. counterterrorism


strategy during this time. Did policy makers see terrorism as a criminal matter
or a national security concern? How did they fight terrorism—through law
enforcement, intelligence, military strikes, or other means? Which agencies
took the lead, and how did they coordinate with each other?

Finally, we seek your assessment of the effectiveness of overall U.S.


counterterrorism policy during this period. Did it reduce terrorism and
advance other U.S. interests? Did it properly draw on all elements of U.S.
national power? What, if anything, hindered the emergence of a more
effective policy?

301 7lh Street SW, Room 5125


Washington, DC 20407
T 202.331.4060 F 202.296.5545
www.9-llcommission.gov
August 29, 2003
Page 2

In addition to answering these questions, please provide additional analysis of important


issues that you identify; we want to be open to what you discover in your work. Please
keep us informed as your work progresses so we can offer our input and so your research
in open sources can aid our ongoing investigation.

Your final draft should be between 40,000 and 50,000 words. The due date for your
monograph is January 31, 2004. To assist us, we request that you create and draft your
monograph in Microsoft Word. In the near future we will be providing you with more
specific stylistic, footnoting, and sourcing guidance.

For the purpose of the work described above, and under the authority of PL 107-306,
dated 11/14/02, establishing the Commission, you will be a "consultant" for the
Commission. The Commission will pay you at the rate of $64.42 per hour, not to exceed
a total of $20,000. You will also be reimbursed for reasonable expenses related to your
work. Please contact Tracy Shycoff, Deputy for Administration and Finance, at 202-401-
1718 or via email at tshycoff@9-l lcommission.gov, to finalize the contract and discuss
billing arrangements.

The Commission recognizes that to carry out your research and writing tasks, you will
need to travel and work at presidential libraries and other U.S. locations where important
documents reside. We request that you book all travel and lodging through the
Commission's administrative officer to ensure you are accorded government rates. You
will be required to submit receipts for any travel associated with carrying out your work.

Upon completion of the work contracted for, it will become the property of the
Commission and its ultimate treatment in the Commission's final report will be at the
sole discretion of Commissioners. As with all other Commission work product, author
credit also remains at the discretion of Commissioners.

Commission Senior Counsel Michael Hurley (telephone: 202-331-4077; email:


mhurley@9-l lcommission.gov) and Professional Staff Member Warren Bass (telephone:
202-296-5568; email: wbass@9-llcommission.gov) will be your points of contact and
will work closely with you on this project. Please call them should you have any
questions.

We look forward to our association with you and to the results of your work on behalf of
the Commission.

Sincerely,

Philip Zelikow
Executive Director
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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 15:20:20 -0400
From: "" <mhurley@9-11commission.gov>^f
To: "" <mcoffey@9-11commission.gov>^P,"" <dcampagna@9-11commission.gov>4|,"" <kheitkotter@9-
11 commission.gov> 4P
Cc: "" <pzelikow@9-11commission.gov>^,"" <ckojm@9-11commission.gov>4|,"" <dmarcus@9-
11 commission.gov>^,"" <sdunne@9-11commission.gov>4|,"" <skaplan@9-11commission.gov>^,""
<tshycoff@9-11 commission.gov>9,"" <wbass@9-11commission.gov>4P,"" <mhurley@9-11 commission.gov>
4?,"" <mcoleman@9-11 commission.gov>4P
Subject: Commission Letter to Tim Naftali
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Melissa, Diana, and Tracy,

Attached please find a letter from the Commission to Dr. Tim Naftali. The
letter formalizes our agreement for Dr. Naftali to do consulting work. Philip
has approved the language describing Naftali's writing task. And Dan Marcus
and Steve Dunne have approved the legal aspects of the agreement; and Tracy
Shycoff has approved the contractual and administrative terms.

Melissa: I would appreciate if you would put this letter on Commission


letterhead and format it. Please also address an envelope to Naftali's address
as shown at the top of the letter. We will put this letter, once signed, in
U.S. mail. (Naftali does not have a fax.) Thank you.

Diana: Per Dan Marcus, please use the autopen to affix Philip's signature to
the letter. Thank you.

Melissa: Once signed please mail the letter to Naftali.

For Tracy: Please note that all the language in this letter is the same as
that in the Tucker letter. The only difference is that writing tasks are
somewhat different (we intended that).

Many thanks to all for assistance in getting both this letter and the Tucker
letter out.

Mike

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Dr. Timothy J. Naftali

9/11 Personal Privacy

Dear Dr. Naftali,

The National Commission on Terrorist Attacks upon the


United States, impressed with your previous published
scholarship, your unique academic credentials and
achievements, your work as a consultant to the Imperial
Japanese and Nazi War Criminal Records Interagency Working
Group, your expertise in presidential decision-making from
your direction of the Miller Center Presidential Recordings
Program, and your ongoing scholarship on
counterintelligence and counterterrorism, requests that you
research and write a monograph for use by the Commission in
preparing its report to the American public and government.

Specifically, the Commission requests that you examine U.S.


counterterrorism policy during the second half of the Cold
War, particularly from 1968 (often considered the birth of
modern terrorism) to January 1993 (the end of President
George H.w. Bush's administration). In your work, please
assess the importance of terrorism in overall U.S. foreign
policy with a focus on the most senior policy makers. How
did successive administrations during this period respond
to terrorism? Was it a minor concern or a major driver of
policy? What was the impact of the Cold War? Also, please
examine what policy makers saw as the primary threat. Was
terrorism viewed solely as part of the U.S.-Soviet
struggle, an issue of concern with rogue states, or a
domestic problem?

We are particularly interested in the evolution of U.S.


counterterrorism strategy during this time. Did policy
makers see terrorism as a criminal matter or a national
security concern? How did they fight terrorism—through law
enforcement, intelligence, military strikes, or other
means? Which agencies took the lead, and how did they
coordinate with each other?

Finally, we seek your assessment of the effectiveness of


overall U.S. counterterrorism policy during this period.
Did it reduce terrorism and advance other U.S. interests?
Did it properly draw on all elements of U.S. national
power? What, if anything, hindered the emergence of a more
effective policy?

In addition to answering these questions, please provide


additional analysis of important issues that you identify;
we want to be open to what you discover in your work.
Please keep us informed as your work progresses so we can
offer our input and so your research in open sources can
aid our ongoing investigation.

Your final draft should be between 40,000 and 50,000 words.


The due date for your monograph is January 31, 2004. To
assist us, we request that you create and draft your
monograph in Microsoft Word. In the near future we will be
providing you with more specific stylistic, footnoting, and
sourcing guidance.

For the purpose of the work described above, and under the
authority of PL 107-306, dated 11/14/02, establishing the
Commission, you will be a "consultant" for the Commission.
The Commission will pay you at the rate of $64.42 per hour,
not to exceed a total of $20,000. You will also be
reimbursed for reasonable expenses related to your work.
Please contact Tracy Shycoff, Deputy for Administration and
Finance, at 202-401-1718 or via email tshycoff@9-
llcommission.gov, to finalize the contract and discuss
billing arrangements.

The Commission recognizes that to carry out your research


and writing tasks, you will need to travel and work at
presidential libraries and other U.S. locations where
important documents reside. We request that you book all
travel and lodging through the Commission's administrative
officer to ensure you are accorded government rates. You
will be required to submit receipts for any travel
associated with carrying out your work.

Upon completion of the work contracted for, it will become


the property of the Commission and its ultimate treatment
in the Commission's final report will be at the sole
discretion of Commissioners. As with all other Commission
work product, author credit also remains at the discretion
of Commissioners.

Commission Senior Counsel Michael Hurley (telephone: 202-


331-4077; email: mhurley@9-llcommission.gov) and
Professional Staff Member Warren Bass (telephone: 202-296-
5568; email: wbass@9-llcommission.gov) will be your points
of contact and will work closely with you on this project.
Please call them should you have any questions.

We look forward to our association with you and to the


results of your work on behalf of the Commission.

Sincerely,

Philip Zelikow
Executive Director
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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 15:00:37 -0400
From: "" <wbass@9-11commission.gov>4|
To: "" <mhurley@9-11commission.gov>4P
Subject: tim, take 2

The National Commission on the Terrorist Attacks upon the United States,
impressed with your previous published scholarship, your unique academic
credentials and achievements, your work as a consultant to the Imperial
Japanese and Nazi War Criminal Records Interagency Working Group, your
expertise in presidential decision-making from your direction of the Miller
Center Presidential Recordings Program, and your ongoing scholarship on
counterintelligence and counterterrorism, requests that you research and write
a monograph for use by the Commission in preparing its report to the American
public and government.

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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 14:22:15 -0400
From: "" <mhurley@9-11commission.gov>4|
To: "" <mcoffey@9-11commission.gov>4P,"" <dcampagna@9-11commission.gov>4!|,"" <sdunne@9-
11commission.gov>^f,"" <dmarcus@9-11 commission.gov>^
Cc: "" <pzelikow@9-11commission.gov>4?,"" <ckojm@9-11commission.gov>4f',"" <wbass@9-
11 commission.gov>4P,"" <kheitkotter@9-11commission.gov>4P,"" <skaplan@9-11commission.gov>4P',"
<tshycoff @ 9-11 commission .gov> ^P,"" <mcoleman @ 9-11 commission .gov> 9
Subject: Approved Letter to David Tucker
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Melissa and Diana:

The attached letter to David Tucker has bee approved. Philip approved the
writing tasking language and Dan Marcus, Steve Dunne, and Tracy Shycoff
approved the legal/contractual/administrative language.

Melissa: please put the letter on Coiranission letterhead and in final form.
Once it has been signed, please fax it to David Tucker at this fax: 831 656
2399. Then please also place the letter in the U.S. mail for David Tucker.
His address is as shown at the top of the letter. Thanks.

Diana: Per Dan Marcus, please use the autopen to affix Philip's signature to
the letter.

For Melissa, Diana, and Tracy: I am preparing a second letter to Tim Naftall.
That letter will be almost identical to the Tucker letter and therefore has
been approved by Philip (the tasking language), Dan and Steve (the legal
language), and Tracy (the administrative language). I will complete that
letter and forward it to you via separate email and request that it be put on
Commission letterhead, have Philip's signature autopenned, and mailed to Tim
Naftali (he does not have a fax). Thanks

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Dr. David Tucker
Code CC/TD
Naval Postgraduate School
589 Dyer Road
Monterey, CA 93943

Dear Dr. Tucker,

The National Commission on the Terrorist Attacks upon the


United States, impressed with your previous published study
of United States counterterrorism policy, "Skirmishes at
the Edge of Empire," and aware of your unique government
and academic credentials and achievements, requests that
you research and write a monograph for use by the
Commission in preparing its report to the American public
and government.

Specifically, the Commission requests that you examine U.S.


counterterrorism policy before and after the end of the
Cold War. Your review should cover the period from the
Beirut bombings of 1983 through 1998. Please assess the
importance of terrorism in overall U.S. foreign policy with
a focus on the most senior policy makers. How did
successive administrations during this period respond to
terrorism? Was it a minor concern or a major driver of
policy? What was the impact of the end of the Cold War?
Also, please examine what policy makers saw as the primary
threat. Was terrorism viewed solely as part of the U.S.-
Soviet struggle, an issue of concern with rogue states, or
a domestic problem? Did Sunni militant extremism register
as a problem with policy makers? How was al-Qaida viewed
as it emerged in the 1990s?

We are particularly interested in the evolution of U.S.


counterterrorism strategy during this time. Did policy
makers see terrorism as a criminal matter or a national
security concern? How did they fight terrorism—through law
enforcement, intelligence, military strikes, or other
means? Which agencies took the lead, and how did they
coordinate with each other?

Finally, we seek your assessment of the effectiveness of


overall U.S. counterterrorism policy during this period.
Did it reduce terrorism and advance other U.S. interests?
Did it properly draw on all elements of U.S. national
power? What, if anything, hindered the emergence of a more
effective policy?

In addition to answering these questions, please provide


additional analysis of important issues that you identify;
we want to be open to what you discover in your work.
Please keep us informed as your work progresses so we can
offer our input and so your research in open sources can
aid our ongoing investigation.

Your final draft should be between 40,000 and 50,000 words.


The due date for your monograph is January 31, 2004. To
assist us, we request that you create and draft your
monograph in Microsoft Word. In the near future we will be
providing you with more specific stylistic, footnoting, and
sourcing guidance.

For the purpose of the work described above, and under the
authority of PL 107-306, dated 11/14/02, establishing the
Commission, you will be a "consultant" for the Commission.
The Commission will pay you at the rate of $64.42 per hour,
not to exceed a total of $20,000. You will also be
reimbursed for reasonable expenses related to your work.
Please contact Tracy Shycoff, Deputy for Administration and
Finance, at 202-401-1718 or via email tshycoff@9-
llcommission.gov, to finalize the contract and discuss
billing arrangements.

The Commission recognizes that to carry out your research


and writing tasks, you will need to travel and work at
presidential libraries and other U.S. locations where
important documents reside. We request that you book all
travel and lodging through the Commission's administrative
officer to ensure you are accorded government rates. You
will be required to submit receipts for any travel
associated with carrying out your work.

Upon completion of the work contracted for, it will become


the property of the Commission and its ultimate treatment
in the Commission's final report will be at the sole
discretion of Commissioners. As with all other Commission
work product, author credit also remains at the discretion
of Commissioners.

Commission Senior Counsel Michael Hurley (telephone: 202-


331-4077; email: mhurley@9-llcommission.gov) and
Professional Staff Member Warren Bass (telephone: 202-296-
5568; email: wbass@9-llcommission.gov) will be your points
of contact and will work closely with you on this project.
Please call them should you have any questions.

We look forward to our association with you and to the


results of your work on behalf of the Commission.

Sincerely

Philip Zelikow
Executive Director
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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 13:12:28 -0400
From: "" <mhurley@9-11commission.gov>^P
To: "" <sdunne@9-11commission.gov>4?,"" <dmarcus@9-11 commission.
Cc: "" <tshycoff@9-11 commission.gov><Sp,"" <wbass@9-11commission.gov>4l,"" <mhurley@9-
11 commission. gov>9
Subject: Commission Letter to David Tucker
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Steve and Dan,

The attached letter contains Tracy Shycoff's input/edits as well as some


additional edits from me.

This is the latest version for your review/o.k.

Mike

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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 11:14:13 -0400
From: Tracy Shycoff <tshycoff@9-1 1commission.gov>^
To: "" <mhurley@9-1 1 commission. gov>4P, "" <sdunne@9-1 1 commission. govxff
Cc: "" <dmarcus@9-11commission.gov>^P, "" <wbass@9-11 commission. gov>^, "" <mcoffey@9-
1 1 commission. gov> 9
Subject: RE: Letter from Commission asking David Tucker to Research and Write
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Mike--I have added some language dealing with the contract. If Dan and/or
Steve sign off on the rest of the language I think it is ready to go. Once
he accepts I'll pull from the letter and make it into a contract for him to
sign.

Tracy J Shycoff
Deputy for Administration and Finance
National Commission on Terrorist Attacks
Upon the United States
202-401-1718
202-358-3124

----- Original Message -----


From: mhurley@9-llcommission.gov [mailto:mhurley@9-llcommission.gov]
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 4:00 PM
To: sdunne@9-llcommission.gov; tshycoff@9-llcommission.gov
Cc : dmarcus@9-llcommission.gov; wbass@9-llcommission.gov;
rnhurley@9-llcommission.gov; mcoffey@9-llcommission.gov
Subject: Letter from Commission asking David Tucker to Research and Write

Steve and Tracy,

As you are aware, Philip has authorized that Team 3 work with two scholars,
David Tucker and Tim Naftali, in ensuring that historical reviews of U.S.
counterterrorism policy are completed.

Per previous email exchanges on this matter, we have agreed that the best
way
to approach this is to have Naftali and Tucker each write a monograph
covering
a specified period of years.

We have also agreed that for the purposes of this work they will be
contractors
of the Commission. And that they will be performing a task that they are
uniquely qualified for.

I have attached a draft letter from the Commission to David Tucker. The
work
description language in the letter already has been approved by Philip.

There is a portion of the letter that must deal with the legal and
administrative aspects of this arrangement. I have placed that section
between
brackets and bolded it. Please review it and make it consistent with
Commission authorities and admin/legal policy. Please note that I have
included in that section issues that occurred to me must be addressed. I'm
sure there are others that will occur to you.

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Once you have completed your additions, I will ask Melissa to place the
approved draft on letterhead and move it forward for Philip's (or Dan
Marcus's?) signature. I can then use the approved draft for a letter to Tim

Naftali, which will be substantially similar.

This matter has been kicking around for awhile and we should try to get it
done
as soon as possible.

Many thanks,

Mike

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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 16:59:44 -0400
From: "" <mhurley@9-11commission.gov> ^1
To: "" <sdunne@9-11 commission.gov>41,"" <tshycoff@9-11commission.gov>4P
Cc: "" <dmarcus@9-11commission.gov>4F,"" <wbass@9-11commission.gov>4f,"" <mhurley@9-
11 commission.gov>4f,"" <rncoffey@9-11commission.gov>4f
Subject: Letter from Commission asking David Tucker to Research and Write
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Steve and Tracy,

As you are aware, Philip has authorized that Team 3 work with two scholars,
David Tucker and Tim Naftali, in ensuring that historical reviews of U.S.
counterterrorism policy are completed.

Per previous email exchanges on this matter, we have agreed that the best way
to approach this is to have Naftali and Tucker each write a monograph covering
a specified period of years.

We have also agreed that for the purposes of this work they will be contractors
of the Commission. And that they will be performing a task that they are
uniquely qualified for.

I have attached a draft letter from the Commission to David Tucker. The work
description language in the letter already has been approved by Philip.

There is a portion of the letter that must deal with the legal and
administrative aspects of this arrangement. I have placed that section between
brackets and bolded it. Please review it and make it consistent with
Commission authorities and admin/legal policy. Please note that I have
included in that section issues that occurred to me must be addressed. I'm
sure there are others that will occur to you.

Once you have completed your additions, I will ask Melissa to place the
approved draft on letterhead and move it forward for Philip's (or Dan
Marcus's?) signature. I can then use the approved draft for a letter to Tim
Naftali, which will be substantially similar.

This matter has been kicking around for awhile and we should try to get it done
as soon as possible.

Many thanks,

Mike

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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 13:33:07 -0400
From: "" <mhurley@9-11commission.gov>4f
To: "" <dctucker@nps.navy.mil>^l
Subject: A Suggestion
David,

FYI, when you begin your monograph for the Commission, you might want to have
in hand a copy of Philip Zelikow's book "Germany Unified and Europe
Transformed: A Study in Statecraft", which he co-authored with Condi Rice.

Philip sort of regards how he handled footnotes of government stuff in that


book to be a kind of a model for how that should be done. We have no explicit
instructions on this yet, but it would be a safe bet that h e ' s going to ask all
of us to footnote/document sources in a way that is consistent with that model.

Mike

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Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 16:07:51 -0400
From: "" <wbass@9-11commission.gov>^
To: "" <mhurley@9-11commission.gov>^P
Subject: Tucker

FYI.

Forwarded message from "Tucker, David USA" <dctucker@nps.navy.mil>


Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 10:45:46 -0700
From: "Tucker, David USA" <dctucker@nps.navy.mil>
Reply-To: "Tucker, David USA" <dctucker@nps.navy.mil>
Subject: RE: Monographs
To: "" <wbass@9-llcommission.gov>

Warren --starting in 1983 would be fine. Actually, I had planned to start then
because it was the bombings in Beirut in 1983 that led the Reagan
administration to a policy of trying to pre-empt terrorist attacks. How that
happened and why preemption did not work then is important to remember when
considering events in the 1990s.

David

Original Message
From: [mailto:wbass89-llcommission.gov]
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 9:19 AM
To: Tucker, David USA
Subject: Monographs

Hope this finds you well, David. Just wanted to drop a note to introduce
myself; I'm one of Mike Hurley's teammates on the 9/11 Commission, and I'm
looking forward to working with you on the scene-setting monographs about U.S.
CT policy.

One quick side point: I don't have the written description in front of me, but
Mike and I wondered what you'd think of starting your research just a bit
earlier--in 1983 rather than 1985, just to capture the Beirut part of the
story. That episode is of particular interest to John Lehmann, one of our
commissioners.

Our lawyers are noodling over the contractual terms, but we'll hope to get
those off to you very soon.

Many thanks again for taking on this assignment; we're all looking forward to
working with you.

Best,
Warren Bass

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Thomas H. Kean August 19, 2003
CHAIR

Lee H. Hamilton Mr. David Tucker


VICE CHAIR Code CC/TD
Richard Ben-Veniste Naval Postgraduate School
589 Dyer Road
Max Cleland Monterey, CA 93943
Frederick F. Fielding
Dear David:
Jamie S. Gorelick
I am really happy that the 9-11 Commission will be calling on your talents to
Slade Gorton
review the history of U.S. Counterterrorism Policy. I can think of no one
John F. Lehman better, no one more qualified, to assist us in our important work. And, of
course, it is personally gratifying to have the opportunity to work with you
Timothy J. Roemer
again.
James R. Thompson
I am working with our General Counsel this week to complete the formal
Philip D. Zelikow
terms of the research and writing we would like you to do; we should have the
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR letter fax'ed (and in the mail) to you by the end of this week.

For your background and to assist you in your work for the Commission, we
have enclosed a copy of the unclassified version of the Congressional Joint
Inquiry into intelligence failures surrounding the 9-11 attacks.

David, again, the Commission's Counterterrorism Policy Team and I are eager
to begin working with you. I will contact you in the very near future.

Warm regards,

Michael Hurley
Senior Counsel
National Commission on Terrorist
Attacks Upon the United States

301 7'h Street SW, Room 5125


Washington, DC 20407
T 202.3.31.4060 F 202.296.5545
www.9-1 lcommission.gov
Thomas H. Kean August 19, 2003
CHAIR

Lee H. Hamilton Mr. Timothy J. Naftali


VICE CHAIR

Richard Ben-Venisce 9/11 Personal Privacy

Max Cleland

Frederick F. Fielding
Dear Tim:

Jamie S. Gorelick I very much enjoyed our telephone conversation late last week, and I look
forward to meeting you in person. I am working with our General Counsel
Slade Gorton
this week to complete the formal terms of the research and writing we would
John F. Lehman like you to do; we should have the letter in the mail to you by the end of this
week.
Timothy J. Roemer

James R. Thompson As you requested, we have enclosed a copy of the unclassified version of the
Congressional Joint Inquiry into intelligence failures surrounding the 9-11
Philip D. Zelikow
attacks.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
The Commission's Counterterrorism Policy Team and I are eager to begin
working with you. I will contact you in the very near future.

Sincerely,

Michael Hurley
Senior Counsel
National Commission on Terrorist
Attacks Upon the United States

301 7'h Street SW, Room 5125


Washington, DC 20407
T 202.331.4060 F 202.296.5545
www.9-llcommission.gov
Mr. Timothy J. Naftali
[address]

Dear Tim:

I very much enjoyed our telephone conversation late last week, and I look forward to
meeting you in person. I am working with our General Counsel this week to complete
the formal terms of the research and writing we would like you to do; we should have the
letter in the mail to you by the end of this week.

As you requested, we have enclosed a copy of the unclassified version of the


Congressional Joint Inquiry into intelligence failures surrounding the 9-11 attacks.

The Commission's Counterterrorism Policy Team and I are eager to begin working with
you. I will contact you in the very near future.

Sincerely,

Michael Hurley
Senior Counsel
National Commission on the
Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States

Mr. David Tucker


[address]

Dear David:

I am really happy that the 9-11 Commission will be calling on your talents to review the
history of U.S. counter-terrorism policy. I can think of no one better, no one more
qualified, to assist us in our important work. And, of course, it is personally gratifying to
have the opportunity to work with you again.

I am working with our General Counsel this week to complete the formal terms of the
research and writing we would like you to do; we should have the letter fax'ed (and in the
mail) to you by the end of this week.

For your background and to assist you in your work for the Commission, we have
enclosed a copy of the unclassified version of the Congressional Joint Inquiry into
intelligence failures surrounding the 9-11 attacks.
David, again, the Commission's Counterterrorism Policy Team and I are eager to begin
working with you. I will contact you in the very near future.

Warm regards,

Michael Hurley
Senior Counsel
National Commission on the
Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States
WITHDRAWAL NOTICE

RG: 148 Exposition, Anniversary, and Memorial Commissions


SERIES: 9/11 Commission, Team 3
NND PROJECT NUMBER: 52100 FOIA CASE NUMBER: 31107

WITHDRAWAL DATE: 11/21/2008

BOX: 00004 FOLDER: 0002 TAB: 11 DOC ID: 31206909

COPIES: 1 PAGES: 1

ACCESS RESTRICTED
The item identified below has been withdrawn from this file:

FOLDER TITLE: David Tucker / Tim Naftali [Iof2]

DOCUMENT DATE: DOCUMENT TYPE: Note/Notes

FROM:

TO:

SUBJECT: Contact Information: Home Addresses and Phone Numbers for Timothy Naftali and
David Tucker

This document has been withdrawn for the following reason(s):


9/11 Personal Privacy

WITHDRAWAL NOTICE
Tim Naftali:
Effect of Cold War struggle as a filter through which our efforts against terrorism were
understood

The end of the Bush Senior administration


Old concepts of dealing with terrorism die
Tucker will pick up where the new mindsets begin
Tim Naftali and David Tucker

Warren Bass
Dan Byman should be in regular contact with Tim and David
Mike Hurley

Need to guide each other to make sure everything important gets covered
Saudi Arabia
Sudan
Pakistan

Tucker on Khobar Towers


Tucker and Naftali on the first bombing of the World Trade Center
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Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 16:22:23 -0400
From: "" <mhurley@9-11 commission,gov> 41
To: "" <dmarcus@9-11commission.gov>^
Cc: "" <mhurley@9-11 commission.gov> 41
Subject: Fwd: RE: Changes to Proposed Agreement with Tim Naftali and David Tucker

Welcome back Dan. I trust you had a fabulous time in Scotland.

I've been working with Tracy S. on getting a letter out to Tim Naftali and
David Tucker, the two scholars we are going to have do contact work for Team
3. They are going to do a history of U.S. counterterrorim policy. Philip has
approved this. The note below asks for Philips approval for some modifications
to the proposal.

In any event, we need to get a letter out to them this week. The letter should
have the terms of agreement and include the descriptions of their respective
tasks. (Philip has approved the task descriptions.) It should also contain
some reference to the word processing software system we would like them to
create their work in, for ease of incorporating it into our work.

I am happy to work with you in any way over the next few days to get this done.

Regards,

Mike

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Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 12:12:11 -0400
From: Tracy Shycoff <tshycoff@9-llcommission.gov>
Reply-To: Tracy Shycoff <tshycoff@9-llcommission.gov>
Subject: RE: Changes to Proposed Agreement with Tim Naftali and David Tucker
To: "" <mhurley@9-llcommission.gov>, "" <frontoffice@9-llcommission.gov>

Mike--0ur legislation allows us to pay up to $64.42/hour for contractors. If


the contract is based on a not to exceed number of hours at that rate it may
take care of the need to do a sole source justification for the product.

As for the travel, they should make all arrangements for travel through us
so that we can get them the government rate. We would put them on official
government travel orders. Do you see any problems with that?

Tracy J Shycoff
Deputy for Administration and Finance
National Commission on Terrorist Attacks
Upon the United States
202-401-1718
202-358-3124

Original Message
From: mhurley@9-llcommission.gov [mailto:mhurley@9-llcommission.gov]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:05 AM
To: frontoffice@9-llcommission.gov; tshycoff@9-llcommission.gov
Cc: wbass@9-llcommission.gov; dlb32@georgetown.edu;
mhurley@9-llcommission.gov
Subject: Changes to Proposed Agreement with Tim Naftali and David Tucker

As front office colleagues are aware, Philip approved the task descriptions
for

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scholars Tim Naftali and David Tucker. Each will write a monograph on U . S .
counterterrorism Policy: Naftali covering the period 1968 to January 1993;
and
Tucker from 1985 to 1998.

Per previous email notes, our view is that they will be "contractors", and
they
will not have access to sensitive information.

Philip agreed to compensate each of them a fee-for-task of $15,000 for their

work.

In discussing the specific terms of the proposal, however, both Naftali and
Tucker thought the fee was somewhat low for what they are being asked to do.

Each estimates that their respective research and writing will require
upwards
of 400 hours. And they point out that the going government rate for this
kind
of work is $65 per hour.

I think that Naftali and Tucker make defensible a case for a somewhat higher

fee, and suggest that we agree to pay each of them $20,000.

In addition, each pointed out that it will be essential to their work to


conduct research at various presidential libraries around the country, and
that
therefore they will incur travel and lodging expenses. We had not thought
about this until now, but the request is reasonable, that is, we concur that

the ability to review presidential documents is critical to the thorough


research we want Tucker and Naftali to do.

I propose that we budget $5,000 for each of them for travel-related


expenses.
We should make clear to them in the letter memorializing the terms of our
agreement that they will need to submit to the Commission ticket and hotel
receipts and any other receipts that government regulations require for
documenting work-related travel.

For Chris Kojm: Pending Philip's decision on this, for budget-tracking


purposes, please note the above proposed addition to the fee-for-task, and
the
proposed travel budget for each.

Decisions for Philip:

1) Request approval to increase to $20,000 each the fee-for-task the

Commission will pay to Tim Naftali and to David Tucker for their work.

2) Request approval to budget travel funds of $5,000 each for Naftali

and Tucker.

Thanks,

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Mike

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Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 12:19:40 -0400
From: "" <mhurley@9-11comrnission.gov>^
To: Tracy Shycoff <tshycoff@9-11commission.gov>#
Subject: RE: Changes to Proposed Agreement with Tim Naftali and David Tucker

Hi Tracy,

Thanks for the fast response.

The not to exceed number of hours at that rate seems like a good way to go on
this. That way they can project how much they will be paid and we will know
that whatever they do they won't be paid more than $20,000.

Regarding travel, what you propose sounds fine to me, and I don't see any
problems with it. I guess I came up with the $5,000 figure just to ballpark
what the costs might run to for budget planning purposes.

Mike

Quoting Tracy Shycoff <tshycoff@9-llcommission.gov>:

> Mike--0ur legislation allows us to pay up to $64.42/hour for contractors. If


> the contract is based on a not to exceed number of hours at that rate it may
> take care of the need to do a sole source justification for the product.
>
> As for the travel, they should make all arrangements for travel through us
> so that we can get them the government rate. We would put them on official
> government travel orders. Do you see any problems with that?
>
> Tracy J Shycoff
> Deputy for Administration and Finance
> National Commission on Terrorist Attacks
> Upon the United States
> 202-401-1718
> 202-358-3124
>
> Original Message
> From: mhurley@9-llcommission.gov [mailto:mhurley@9-llcommission.gov]
> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:05 AM
> To: frontoffice@9-llcommission.gov; tshycoff@9-llcommission.gov
> Cc: wbass@9-llcommission.gov; dlb32@georgetown.edu;
> mhurley@9-llcommission.gov
> Subject: Changes to Proposed Agreement with Tim Naftali and David Tucker
>
> As front office colleagues are aware, Philip approved the task descriptions
> for
> scholars Tim Naftali and David Tucker. Each will write a monograph on U.S.
> counterterrorism Policy: Naftali covering the period 1968 to January 1993;
> and
> Tucker from 1985 to 1998.
>
> Per previous email notes, our view is that they will be "contractors", and
> they
> will not have access to sensitive information.
>
> Philip agreed to compensate each of them a fee-for-task of $15,000 for their
>
> work.

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> In discussing the specific terms of the proposal, however, both Naftali and
> Tucker thought the fee was somewhat low for what they are being asked to do.
>
> Each estimates that their respective research and writing will require
> upwards
> of 400 hours. And they point out that the going government rate for this
> kind
> of work is $65 per hour.
>
> I think that Naftali and Tucker make defensible a case for a somewhat higher
>
> fee, and suggest that we agree to pay each of them $20,000.
>
> In addition, each pointed out that it will be essential to their work to
> conduct research at various presidential libraries around the country, and
> that
> therefore they will incur travel and lodging expenses. We had not thought
> about this until now, but the request is reasonable, that is, we concur that
>
> the ability to review presidential documents is critical to the thorough
> research we want Tucker and Naftali to do.
>
> I propose that we budget $5,000 for each of them for travel-related
> expenses.
> We should make clear to them in the letter memorializing the terms of our
> agreement that they will need to submit to the Commission ticket and hotel
> receipts and any other receipts that government regulations require for
> documenting work-related travel.
>
> For Chris Kojm: Pending Philip's decision on this, for budget-tracking
> purposes, please note the above proposed addition to the fee-for-task, and
> the
> proposed travel budget for each.
>
> Decisions for Philip:
>
> 1) Request approval to increase to $20,000 each the fee-for-task the
>
> Commission will pay to Tim Naftali and to David Tucker for their work.
>
> 2) Request approval to budget travel funds of $5,000 each for Naftali
>
> and Tucker.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike

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