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I strongly support efforts to make this a reality.

The Case for Suing Parents Who Dont Vaccinate Their Kids. Or Even Criminally Charging them. What if a mother decided not to vaccinate her daughter for measles, based on rumors that the vaccine causes autism, and her daughter gets the disease at the age of 4 and passes it to a 1year-old, who is too young for the vaccine, at her day care center. And...

Ryan Jinks How about education instead of coercion?

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Take Aanstoot Education is hard on knowledge resistant human beings.

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W.L. Boyden So what do you guys make of the courts ruling that the mmr is causing autism?
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Adam Joseph Parsons Courts are not the place to decide what is scientifically valid or not.

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W.L. Boyden What about the news that Wakefield's research was in fact accurate per other researchers?
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Gwenn Smith Olson I have been saying this for YEARS. They should also be charged the cost of the outbreak response.
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Allison Hagood Indeed, Wakefield's conclusion in his original paper states, and I quote: "We did not prove an association between measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine and the syndrome described." So you are correct - Wakefield's original research has been replicated by numerous researchers. NO LINK BETWEEN MMR AND AUTISM HAS BEEN FOUND.
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W.L. Boyden OK, thank you. We must be reading different things.

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W.L. Boyden Sorry here's the link: I'm also curious about the Tripedia DTaP that states in it's inserts that 2 posible side effects are SIDS and Autism.

Scientists fear MMR link to autism New American research shows that there could be a link between the controversial MMR triple vaccine and autism and bowel disease in children 14 August at 05:54 via mobile Like

Allison Hagood Daily Fail is a source? Tsk tsk. Inserts are required by law to list all adverse EVENTS (which are different than EFFECTS) that occur to anyone during the development or after-market phase of the use of a medication. If a person develops a cold after receiving a vaccine, that must be included. However, it in no way indicates that those events are side effects. You fail in your understanding of that issue. Wakefield's retracted and fraudulent study is easily available online, if you care to read your false hero's actual results, which once again found no link between MMR vaccines and autism. Let me repeat myself, since you've proven yourself incapable of reading plain English: Wakefield's conclusion in his original paper states, and I quote: "We did not prove an association between measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine and the syndrome described." So you are correct - Wakefield's original research has been replicated by numerous researchers. NO LINK BETWEEN MMR AND AUTISM HAS BEEN FOUND.

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W.L. Boyden No need to be a bitch. I was asking relevant questions. Sad that i ask simple questions and get bashed. I'm sorry I'm VERY well educated. Perhaps curiosity makes a person illiterate.
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Allison Hagood Oh, believe me, there's a need for me to be a bitch. You vaccine denialists can't read plain English, understand science, or realize when you're completely utterly 100% wrong in your continued insistence that vaccines are linked to autism in some way.
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Allison Hagood Vaccines do not cause autism. The only study that supposedly implicated the link was retracted as fraudulent, and the lead author was stripped of his medical credentials. Multiple studies in multiple countries over multiple decades with multiple research groups using multiple research models and multiple funding sources have found no link between vaccines and autism. A Finnish study that looked at 1.8 million people in terms of the relationship between vacccines and adverse events, including autism. No link was found:;jsessionid=mLq71FMeRXidCH5Xpnrs. 0

A Danish study that looked at more than 500,000 people. No link between the MMR and autism was found: In Denmark, 956 children were diagnosed with autism during the period from 19712000. There was no trend toward an increase in the incidence of autism during that period when thimerosal was used in Denmark, up through 1990. From 1991 until 2000 the incidence increased and continued to rise after the removal of thimerosal from vaccines, including increases among children born after the discontinuation of thimerosal Conclusions: The discontinuation of thimerosalcontaining vaccines in Denmark in 1992 was followed by an increase in the incidence of autism. Our ecological data do not support a correlation between thimerosal-containing vaccines and the incidence of autism. A Canadian study that ruled out an association between thimerosal or the MMR vaccine and autism: A Japanese study that showed no relationship between vaccines and autism: A California study showing no relationship between vaccines and autism: A review of the hypothesis that vaccines are related to autism: After analyzing over 1,000 research papers, a report issued by the IOM (Institute of Medicine) found no evidence linking vaccines to autism. In Poland, administered childhood vaccines still contain thimerosal as a preservative. This study included 96 cases diagnosed with childhood or atypical autism and 192 matched (nonautistic) controls. Data on the other possible autism risk factors were collected from mothers. Conditional logistic regression was used to assess the risk of autism due to Thimerosal Containing Vaccines (TCVs) exposure. NO significant association was found between TCVs exposure and autism. A critical review of published original data on Thimerosal-containing vaccines and autistic spectrum disorder found that: "Studies do NOT demonstrate a link between thimerosalcontaining vaccines and ASD, and the pharmacokinetics of ethylmercury make such an association less likely. Epidemiologic studies that support a link demonstrated significant design flaws that invalidate their conclusions. Evidence does not support a change in the standard of practice with regard to administration of thimerosal-containing vaccines in areas of the world where they are used." Taylor et al reviewed 498 cases of autism among children born since 1979 and did not find an epidemiological link with MMR vaccine administration. Specifically, there was no step-up increase in the diagnosis of autism or significant change in the autism diagnosis trend lines associated with the introduction and uptake of MMR vaccine in the universal vaccine schedule. As well, there was no difference in the age of diagnosis among children who were never vaccinated, those vaccinated before 18 months of age and those vaccinated after 18 months of age. No temporal association between the onset of autism and the receipt of the vaccine was seen. There was no clustering of developmental regression in the months

following MMR vaccination among children with diagnosed autism. This US study of 256 children with ASD and 752 matched controls found that: "prenatal and early-life exposure to ethylmercury from thimerosal-containing vaccines and immunoglobulin preparations was not related to increased risk of ASDs." A similar lack of correlation has also been noted in Sweden where prevalence rates of autism did not change following the introduction of MMR immunization. Gillberg C, Heijbel H. MMR and autism. Autism. 1998;2:4234 A case-control study in Asia: Cases (n=189) were diagnosed with ASD, and controls (n=224). "In this study, there were not any convincing evidences that MMR vaccination and increasing the number of vaccine injections were associated with an increased risk of ASD in a genetically homogeneous population. Therefore, these findings indicate that there is NO basis for avoiding vaccination out of concern for ASD." Level of autism in adults similar to that in Children: Debunking the too many, too soon argument: "Increasing exposure to antibody-stimulating proteins and polysac- charides in vaccines during the first 2 years of life was not related to the risk of developing an ASD" Institute of Medicine report on Vaccines and Autism: "the body of epidemiological evidence favors rejection of a causal relationship between the MMR vaccine and autism. The committee also concludes that the body of epidemiological evidence favors rejection of a causal relationship between thimerosal-containing vaccines and autism. The committee further finds that potential biological mechanisms for vaccine-induced autism that have been generated to date are theoretical only." Cochran Review on Vaccines and Autism: The Cochrane Review on Vaccines and Autism: Exposure to the MMR vaccine was unlikely to be associated with autism, asthma, leukaemia, hay fever, type 1 diabetes, gait disturbance, Crohn's disease, demyelinating diseases, bacterial or viral infections.

No evidence for measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine-associated inflammatory bowel disease or...... Europe PubMed Central (Europe PMC) is an archive of life sciences journal literature. 14 August at 06:36 Like 13

Allison Hagood And finally, here is a good discussion of why the "courts decided MMR causes autiism" bullshit is...well...bullshit:

Court Rulings Don't Confirm Autism-Vaccine Link Even if for obscure reasons you want to rely only on court rulings, what we have...See more 14 August at 06:52 Like 8

W.L. Boyden No there isn't. While im trying to learn you're being condescending. So I will ask no further questions. Thx.
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Allison Hagood Since you're JAQing off, it won't be a big loss when you quit:

JAQing off - RationalWiki JAQing off is the act of spouting accusations while hiding behind the claim that...See more 14 August at 06:54 Like 3

Allison Hagood By the way, it's not like you're not already known for being a vaccine denialist.
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W.L. Boyden I've asked a total of 4 questions ever on here and now I'm "known"? Intresting.
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Allison Hagood Yep, very interesting, isn't it?

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W.L. Boyden If you treatc all curious people in such a manner, there's an issue.
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Allison Hagood You're not curious. You're anti-vaccine.

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W.L. Boyden I am curious. We have several RNs and DRs in the fam . . . Im curious.
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Allison Hagood Have you read any of the links provided, links to actual scientific studies that find no link between vaccines and autism? Have you read the link to the AAP summary of vaccine safety studies? Have you read Emily Willingham's Forbes article about the "court ruling" you mentioned? If you're curious, you'll do so.
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Allison Hagood By the way, someone who "likes" Sherri Tenpenny (a notorious anti-vaccine con artist and quack), NVIC (run by Barbara Loe Fisher, America's foremost source of antivaccine lies and misinformation), and The Vaccine Machine (run by a psychotic misogynistic anti-science vaccine denialist) is someone who's deliberately looking for information on only one "side" - the vaccine denialist side.
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Take Aanstoot But I read on Naturalnews that vaccines will make the government controll the mind of my children.
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Allison Hagood More studies for the "curious:" Lack of Association between Measles Virus Vaccine and Autism with Enteropathy: A CaseControl Study. Hornig M et al. PLoS ONE 2008; 3(9): e3140 doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0003140 *Subjects: 25 children with autism and GI disturbances and 13 children with GI disturbances alone (controls) Measles Vaccination and Antibody Response in Autism Spectrum Disorders.

Baird G et al. Arch Dis Child 2008; 93(10):832-7. Subjects: 98 vaccinated children aged 10-12 years in the UK with autism spectrum disorder (ASD); two control groups of similar age: 52 children with special educational needs but no ASD and 90 children in the typically developing group MMR-Vaccine and Regression in Autism Spectrum Disorders: Negative Results Presented from Japan. Uchiyama T et al. J Autism Dev Disord 2007; 37(2):210-7 *Subjects: 904 children with autism spectrum disorder (Note: MMR was used in Japan only between 1989 and 1993.) No Evidence of Persisting Measles Virus in Peripheral Blood Mononuclear Cells from Children with Autism Spectrum Disorder. DSouza Y et al. Pediatrics 2006; 118(4):1664-75 *Subjects: 54 children with autism spectrum disorder and 34 developmentally normal children Immunizations and Autism: A Review of the Literature. Doja A, Roberts W. Can J Neurol Sci. 2006; 33(4):341-6 *Literature review Pervasive Developmental Disorders in Montreal, Quebec, Canada: Prevalence and Links with Immunizations. Fombonne E et al. Pediatrics. 2006;118(1):e139-50 *Subjects: 27,749 children born from 1987 to 1998 attending 55 schools Relationship between MMR Vaccine and Autism. Klein KC, Diehl EB. Ann Pharmacother. 2004; 38(7-8):1297-300 *Literature review of 10 studies Immunization Safety Review: Vaccines and Autism. Institute of Medicine. The National Academies Press: 2004 (w w w . *Literature review MMR Vaccination and Pervasive Developmental Disorders: A Case-Control Study. Smeeth L et al. Lancet 2004; 364(9438):963-9 *Subjects: 1294 cases and 4469 controls
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Allison Hagood Age at First Measles-Mumps-Rubella Vaccination in Children with Autism and School-Matched Control Subjects: A Population-Based Study in Metropolitan Atlanta. DeStefano F et al. Pediatrics 2004; 113(2): 259-66 *Subjects: 624 children with autism and 1,824 controls Prevalence of Autism and Parentally Reported Triggers in a North East London Population. Lingam R et al. Arch Dis Child 2003; 88(8):666-70 *Subjects: 567 children with autistic spectrum disorder Neurologic Disorders after Measles-Mumps-Rubella Vaccination. Makela A et al. Pediatrics 2002; 110:957-63 *Subjects: 535,544 children vaccinated between November 1982 and June 1986 in Finland A Population-Based Study of Measles, Mumps, and Rubella Vaccination and Autism. Madsen KM et al. N Engl J Med 2002; 347(19):1477-82 *Subjects: All 537,303 children born 1/9112/98 in Denmark Relation of Childhood Gastrointestinal Disorders to Autism: Nested Case Control Study Using Data from the UK General Practice Research Database. Black C et al. BMJ 2002; 325:419-21 *Subjects: 96 children diagnosed with autism and 449 controls Measles, Mumps, and Rubella Vaccination and Bowel Problems or Developmental Regression in Children with Autism: Population Study. Taylor B et al. BMJ 2002; 324(7334):393-6 *Subjects: 278 children with core autism and 195 with atypical autism No Evidence for a New Variant of Measles-Mumps-Rubella-Induced Autism. Fombonne E et al. Pediatrics 2001;108(4):E58 *Subjects: 262 autistic children (pre- and post-MMR samples) Measles-Mumps-Rubella and Other Measles-Containing Vaccines Do Not Increase the Risk for Inflammatory Bowel Disease: A Case-Control Study from the Vaccine Safety Datalink Project. Davis RL et al. Arch Pediatr Adolesc Med 2001;155(3):354-9 *Subjects: 155 persons with IBD with up to 5 controls each Time Trends in Autism and in MMR Immunization Coverage in California. Dales L et al. JAMA 2001; 285(9):1183-5 *Subjects: Children born in 1980-94 who were enrolled in California kindergartens (survey

samples of 6001,900 children each year) Mumps, Measles, and Rubella Vaccine and the Incidence of Autism Recorded by General Practitioners: A Time Trend Analysis. Kaye JA et al. BMJ 2001; 322:460-63 *Subjects: 305 children with autism Further Evidence of the Absence of Measles Virus Genome Sequence in Full Thickness Intestinal Specimens from Patients with Crohns Disease. Afzal MA, et al. J Med Virol 2000; 62(3):377-82 *Subjects: Specimens from patients with Crohns disease Autism and Measles, Mumps, and Rubella Vaccine: No Epidemiological Evidence for a Causal Association. Taylor B et al. Lancet 1999;353 (9169):2026-9 *Subjects: 498 children with autism Absence of Detectable Measles Virus Genome Sequence in Inflammatory Bowel Disease Tissues and Peripheral Blood Lymphocytes. Afzal MA et al. J Med Virol 1998; 55(3):243-9 *Subjects: 93 colonoscopic biopsies and 31 peripheral blood lymphocyte preparations No Evidence for Measles, Mumps, and Rubella Vaccine-Associated Inflammatory Bowel Disease or Autism in a 14-year Prospective Study. Peltola H et al. Lancet 1998; 351:1327-8 *Subjects: 3,000,000 doses of MMR vaccine Exposure to Measles in Utero and Crohns Disease: Danish Register Study. Nielsen LL et al. BMJ 1998; 316(7126):196-7 *Subjects: 472 women with measles Immunocytochemical Evidence of Listeria, Escherichia coli, and Streptococcus Antigens in Crohns Disease. Liu Y et al. Gastroenterology 1995; 108(5):1396-1404 *Subjects: Intestines and mesenteric lymph node specimens from 21 persons from families with a high frequency of Crohns disease Neuropsychological Performance 10 years after Immunization in Infancy with ThimerosalContaining Vaccines Tozzi AE, Bisiacchi P, Tarantino V, De Mei B, DElia L, Chiarotti F, Salmaso S. Pediatrics, February 2009, Vol. 123(2):475-82 Mercury Levels in Newborns and Infants after Receipt of Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines

Pichichero ME, Gentile A, Giglio N, et al Pediatrics, February 2008; 121(2) e208-214 Mercury, Vaccines, And Autism: One Controversy, Three Histories Baker JP American Journal of Public Health, February 2008;98(2): 244-253 Continuing Increases in Autism Reported to Californias Developmental Services System: Mercury in Retrograde Schechter R, Grether JK Arch Gen Psychiatry, January 2008; 65(1):19-24
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Allison Hagood Early Thimerosal Exposure and Neuropsychological Outcomes at 7 to 10 Years Thompson WW, Price C, Goodson B, et al; Vaccine Safety Datalink Team N Engl J Med, Sep 27, 2007; 357(13):1281-1292 Pervasive Developmental Disorders in Montreal, Quebec, Canada: Prevalence and Links with Immunizations Fombonne E, Zakarian R, Bennett A, Meng L, McLean-Heywood D Pediatrics, July 2006, Vol. 118(1):e139-e150 Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System Reporting Source: A Possible Source of Bias in Longitudinal Studies Goodman MJ, Nordin J Pediatrics, February 2006, Vol. 117(2):387-390 MMR-Vaccine and Regression in Autism Spectrum Disorders: Negative Results Presented from Japan Authors: Uchiyama T, Kurosawa M, Inaba Y Source: J Autism Dev Disord, February 2007; 37(2):210-217 No effect of MMR withdrawal on the incidence of autism: a total population study. Honda H, Shimizu Y, Rutter M. J Child Psychol Psychiatry. 2005 Jun;46(6):572-9. Thimerosal in Vaccines: Balancing the Risk of Adverse Effects with the Risk of VaccinePreventable Disease Bigham M, Copes R Drug Safety, 2005, Vol. 28(2):89-101 Comparison of Blood and Brain Mercury Levels in Infant Monkeys Exposed to Methylmercury or Vaccines Containing Thimerosal

Burbacher TM, Shen DD, Liberato N, Grant KS, Cernichiari E, Clarkson T National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences, April 21, 2005 Thimerosal Exposure in Infants and Developmental Disorders: A Prospective Cohort Study in the United Kingdom Does Not Support a Causal Association Heron J, Golding J, ALSPAC Study Team Pediatrics, September 2004, Vol. 114(3):577-583 Thimerosal Exposure in Infants and Developmental Disorders: A Retrospective Cohort Study in the United Kingdom Does Not Support a Causal Association Andrews N, Miller E, Grant A, Stowe J, Osborne V, Taylor B Pediatrics, September 2004, Vol. 114(3):584-591 Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines and Autistic Spectrum Disorder: A Critical Review of Published Original Data Parker SK, Schwartz B, Todd J, Pickering LK Pediatrics, September 2004, Vol. 114(3):793-804 The Evidence for the Safety of Thimerosal in Newborn and Infant Vaccines Clements CJ Vaccine, May 7, 2004, Vol. 22(15-16):1854-1861 Safety of Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines: A Two-Phased Study of Computerized Health Maintenance Organization Databases Verstraeten T, Davis RL, DeStefano F, et al Pediatrics, November 2003, Vol. 112(5):1039-1048 The Toxicology of MercuryCurrent Exposures and Clinical Manifestations Clarkson TW, Magos L, Myers GJ New England Journal of Medicine, October 30, 2003, Vol. 349(18):1731-7 Association Between Thimerosal-Containing Vaccine and Autism Hviid A, Stellfeld M, Wohlfahrt J, Melbye M Journal of the American Medical Association, October 1, 2003, Vol. 290(13):1763-6 Thimerosal and the Occurrence of Autism: Negative Ecological Evidence from Danish Population-Based Data Madsen KM, Lauritsen MB, Pedersen CB, et al Pediatrics, Sept. 2003, Vol. 112(3 Pt 1):604-606 Autism and Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines. Lack of Consistent Evidence for an Association Stehr-Green P, Tull P, Stellfeld M, Mortenson PB, Simpson D American Journal of Preventive Medicine, August 2003, Vol. 25(2):101-6 Impact of the Thimerosal Controversy on Hepatitis B Vaccine Coverage of Infants Born to Women of Unknown Hepatitis B Surface Antigen Status in Michigan Biroscak BJ, Fiore AE, Fasano N, Fineis P, Collins MP, Stoltman G Pediatrics, June 2003, Vol. 111(6):e645-9

Vaccine Safety Policy Analysis in Three European Countries: The Case of Thimerosal Freed GL, Andreae MC, Cowan AE, et al Health Policy, December 2002, Vol. 62(3):291-307 Mercury Concentrations and Metabolism in Infants Receiving Vaccines Containing Thimerosal: A Descriptive Study Pichichero ME, Cernichiari E, Lopreiato J, Treanor J The Lancet, November 30, 2002, Vol. 360:1737-1741 An Assessment of Thimerosal Use in Childhood Vaccines Ball LK, Ball R, Pratt RD Pediatrics, May 2001, Vol. 107(5):1147-1154 Economic Evaluation of the 7-Vaccine Routine Childhood Immunization Schedule in the United States, 2001 Zhou F, Santoli J, Messonnier ML, Yusuf HR, Shefer A, Chu SY, Rodewald L, Harpaz R. Arch Pediatr Adolesc Med. 2005;159:1136-1144. An economic analysis of the current universal 2-dose measles-mumps-rubella vaccination program in the United States. Zhou F, Reef S, Massoudi M, Papania MJ, Yusuf HR, Bardenheier B, Zimmerman L, McCauley MM. J Infect Dis. 2004 May 1;189 Suppl 1:S131-45.
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Embarrassed Cousins of Proud Parents of Unvaccinated Children I missed you so much, Allison Hagood.

Elton John - The bitch is back (5/9/74) This is a performance of Elton John on Top of the pops on the 5th of September 1974. 14 August at 07:40 Like 10

Embarrassed Cousins of Proud Parents of Unvaccinated Children Ryan Jinks: I'm all about education. In fact, I spend entirely too much of my free time on it. But if someone ignores reality and ends up killing an innocent person, they should be held accountable.
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Allison Hagood Kisses, EC.

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Amanda Goertz Looks like someone just got schooled!

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Alan Capone I also strongly support this effort, especially the criminal charges, that can't be foregone by the victims who don't want to endure a trial.
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Lauren Elizabeth Tardi I believe that the vaccinated children's parents who send them to school all tylenoled up and get other children sick should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law
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Johan Balak Lauren is such a joke.

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Embarrassed Cousins of Proud Parents of Unvaccinated Children Lauren Elizabeth Tardi: Do you care to elaborate, or are you just being argumentative? The issue here is damage through negligence. We aren't talking about a common cold. If my kid was fully vaccinated but had something we don't vaccinate for, like t...See More
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Lauren Elizabeth Tardi if a parent vaccinates or not, most would NOT send a child to school with measles mumps or rubella...holding everyone else accountable for your own child's weakened immune system is purely ridiculous
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Embarrassed Cousins of Proud Parents of Unvaccinated Children But those diseases are contagious long before symptoms show up.
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Embarrassed Cousins of Proud Parents of Unvaccinated Children And you're assuming a weakened immune system is involved. What if the child damaged is just too young to be vaccinated?
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Allison Hagood Ah, Lauren is apparently a believer in the "shedding" issue.

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Embarrassed Cousins of Proud Parents of Unvaccinated Children Oh, is shedding what she was going for? It was too much derp to decipher.
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Allison Hagood That's my assumption. I could be wrong.

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Lauren Elizabeth Tardi nope...just that all kids get sick. vaccinated and no vaccinated....equally it seems...and if a vaccinated child gets another sick because they came to school sick when their parents knew they should also be in as much "trouble" as the non vaxing family...vaccination is not the issue....
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Embarrassed Cousins of Proud Parents of Unvaccinated Children Equally? If you're talking about vaccine preventable diseases, not even close.
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Embarrassed Cousins of Proud Parents of Unvaccinated Children The point here is the failure to take reasonable precautions. Vaccinating your child is a reasonable precaution to avoid spreading disease. This is why they require it for school. Yes, there are exemptions, but claiming an exemption based solely on per...See More
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Xandy Gilmore Lauren, i think i know what you are trying to say. Parents who send their children to school, knowing their child is sick, are assholes, and i actually almost lost my daughter to RSV when she was 6 weeks old after my son picked it up at daycare... But...See More
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Lauren Elizabeth Tardi Not required for school. sorry..and yes, I know many vaccinated children who are ALWAYS sick..vaccine preventable and non vaccine preventable diseases....And yes Xandy, many vaccine preventible diseases start off and look like common colds and flus, so...See More
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Embarrassed Cousins of Proud Parents of Unvaccinated Children Yes, vaccines are required for public school in every state. See the CDC link where it says State Vaccination Requirements? That word, requirements, means required. Words mean things. Now, that doesnt mean some people are not granted an exemption. ...See More

Vaccines: Vac-Gen/Laws/State Requirements State Vaccine Requirements Yesterday at 10:10 Like

Lauren Elizabeth Tardi no. only FIVE vaccines are required IF you don't have an exemption. And yes, I understand what you are are EXEMPT from the rules..which is LEGAL and ALLOWED because hey, if you can CHOOSE to mutilate your son's body at birth with a circumcision a parent should be able to choose if they want to vaccinate or not no?
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Xandy Gilmore Where did i say they don't medicate their child and send them of to school? I freely stated there are assholes that do this... I also stated one of those assholes almost cost my child her life. You are reading what you wasn't to read. I am well awar...See More
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Xandy Gilmore Also, if a child who is asymptoma of a vaccine preventable disease, and the parents vaccinated that child, they are not irresponsible. They protected their child, with a slight chance the vaccine didn't work for them... They did not leave them open to...See More
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Lauren Elizabeth Tardi I am a nurse.. went to school without any vaccines, attended clinicals and work with pregnant women and the kids are not vaccinated...I breastfed (those who don't should be held responsible because formula feeding raises risk of infectious...See More
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TwoPoint O'Kat Laren, I find your statement interesting..."I am a nurse.. Went to school without any vaccines, attended clinicals and work with pregnant women and the elderly..." I am also a state licensed nurse. That being said, I'm not aware of any nursing schools...See More
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Embarrassed Cousins of Proud Parents of Unvaccinated Children " I am a nurse.. went to school without any vaccines, attended clinicals and work with pregnant women and the elderly."

Then you placed patients' lives at risk, and you should be reported to your state licensing board to have your licensure revoked. ...See More
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Lauren Elizabeth Tardi call the school..I did in fact have titers done and then I had exemptions for the others I did not have immunity for ..and yes, I agree, whoever taught you that nutrition is NOT the reason for most disease should also be shut down
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Embarrassed Cousins of Proud Parents of Unvaccinated Children Call the school for what? To confirm that you're a shit nurse, that your program is a shit program, and that you deserve to have your professional licensure revoked so that you are not allowed to be around vulnerable patients? No need for that. Your posts here confirm all of that nicely. You're a fucking moron, and a dangerous nutjob, and I only hope that one day you are removed from your job for your behaviors.
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Dorit Reiss I note Lauren brought no evidence for her unsupported claim that nutrition (rather than germs? What about germs, Lauren?) cause diseases. She also prides herself on not taking basic precautions while around vulnerable populations and leaving her children at risk for diseases. And saying so publicly.
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Dorit Reiss Lauren, do your patients know you are unvaccinated? Do they get a chance to decline the risk you are imposing on them, or do you just expose them without their knowledge?
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Dorit Reiss Where do you claim you went to school, Lauren?

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Pash A Nursey Does the US have a health profession registry like Australia? It could help answer a few questions.
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Embarrassed Cousins of Proud Parents of Unvaccinated Children Licensure and regulations for individuals are at the state level in America. Schools and programs often have to follow national standards, though. And that makes Lauren a liar, since no accredited nursing program would openly deny that germs cause disease (not poor nutrition). Therefore, she attended an uncredited nursing program that doesn't follow the best practices of the science of nursing and medicine, making her an unlicensed health care provider of some kind.
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Nikki Finnel Lauren is also one of those intactivist nuts. I would take anything she says with a grain of salt. And why is it on the anti-vax pages, all these moron parents are always complaining how their non-vaccinated, uncircumcised, gluten-free child is allergi...See More
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Lauren Elizabeth Tardi eeeewww nikki you kid sounds gross you all are idiots and I hope to one day put your children in a playdate with mine so we can give them all polio..Likely your children will die since they have SHIT immune systems from all the formula and vaccines you give them...And happily my children will go on happy and healthy hugs idiots
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Embarrassed Cousins of Proud Parents of Unvaccinated Children Wishing illness and death on other people's children is certainly a sign of a stable mind. You're done here, you pathetic miserable piece of shit.
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Nikki Finnel Lauren's one classy broad. Calling people's children "gross" and wishing death upon them. Wow. Just wow. And she still couldn't tell us where she went to nursing school-maybe one of those nursing schools that advertise during Maury or Springer.
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Embarrassed Cousins of Proud Parents of Unvaccinated Children Actually, I'm leaving your posts up so that everyone can read the mindset of the typical vaccine denialist nurse who feels that it's acceptable to murder patients through her lack of protection, spreading of disease, and denial of germ theory, and who feels that the children of vaccinated parents are gross and must be killed by disease.
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Kayla Willingham This bitch ain't a nurse. She hasn't even stayed at a holiday inn express
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Nikki Finnel I agree EC. This is the mentality of the anti-vax loonies and everyone should see how they don't give a shit about anyone else but their pathetic tin-foil hat wearing agenda.
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Embarrassed Cousins of Proud Parents of Unvaccinated Children Looks like you're right about the not being a nurse part (oh, how easy it is to find people on the web). Can't speak to the Holiday Inn Express part, though.
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Meleese Pollock So Lauren wishes death and disability on our children. Thanks for leaving up her posts EC.. People need to see what AVers are really like when you scratch the surface.
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Embarrassed Cousins of Proud Parents of Unvaccinated Children No problem. I've also taken screenshots in case Lauren realizes what a terrible thing she's done, and returns to remove them. It's times like these that I regret having ethics, because the clients with whom she works need to be protected from her malice, lunacy, and cavalier attitude toward health.
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Nikki Finnel I'm going to use some vile language, but Lauren seems like such a cunt. I was right about her being an intactivist because I clicked on her profile and her cover photo is for some anti-circumcision cause--yet she mutilates her body for the purposes of vanity with a nose ring.
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Nikki Finnel Also, here is a post of hers on Dr. Tenpenny's page--her child has had fevers--so I guess vaccines don't cause fevers either.
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Embarrassed Cousins of Proud Parents of Unvaccinated Children Of course, since Lauren "likes" or is a member of a large number of vaccine denialist pages/groups, such as "Vaccines and Corruption," her earlier post that she's agnostic on vaccines is yet another lie. So, lies about her personal opinion, lies about her educational and occupational background and very typical of the vaccine denialist.
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Meleese Pollock I seriously have my doubts she's a nurse.

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Embarrassed Cousins of Proud Parents of Unvaccinated Children The organization with which she is affiliated advertises itself as providing non-medical home care.
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Xandy Gilmore Yeah, i teach nurses, they have to have proof of medical exemption or vaccination to even enter the program, so I'm calling bs as well. Furthermore, wishing illness and death on others (especially children) goes against the oath she would have taken upon completion of her nursing degree.
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Nikki Finnel Non-medical home care? Sounds scary.

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Embarrassed Cousins of Proud Parents of Unvaccinated Children Nikki, it's stuff like cooking meals, cleaning houses, driving people to appointments, sitting with people when their loved ones aren't available, that kind of thing. Practical stuff around the house rather than actual medical care.
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Pash A Nursey Lauren Elizabeth Tardi, where I come from, it's an offence to poise as a Registered Nurse or an Endorsed Enrolled Nurse. Your inability to apply critical thinking, plus your blatantly obvious lack of applying 'up-to-date' practice as provided and regul...See More
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Dorit Reiss By the way, Xandy Gilmore, a child can sue a parent for not vaccinating in some states - depending what the laws are about parental immunity. It's an easier suit legally than suing another family for not vaccinating. But practically it's often not worth it since the parents will be covering the child's costs anyhow.
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Xandy Gilmore Good to know Dorit!

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Jacquelinny Eileen Filing suit on a parent of an unvaccinated child would, from my lay understanding of law, be difficult to achieve. Too many X factors in the AV parent's favor. HOWEVER... I'm *all* for charges of criminal negligence and child endangerment. What do I know, though? I only had a five week old who nearly died from Pertussis.
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