Katherine Jackson v AEG Live August 21

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2013
Jeffrey L. Adams (Ex MJ Security, Conrad Murray Security)
JEFFREY LEE ADAMS, called as a witness, having been administered an oath, testified as
follows:
EXAMINATION BY MR. GREELEY:
Q. Good morning, Mr. Adams.
A. Good morning.
Q. Would you please state and spell your full name for the record.
A. Jeffrey Lee Adams, J-e-f-f-r-e-y, Lee, L-e-e, last name Adams, A-d-a-m-s.
Q. Okay. I'd like to go through your education and employment history. What's the highest level
of education that you completed?
A. Third year of college.
Q. And where did you complete that third year?
A. Long Beach State University.

Q. What year was that?
A. '90 -- I think it was '93.
Q. Okay. When did you graduate from high school?
A. 1981.
Q. Okay. And what did you do between 1981 and 1986?
A. Various jobs.
Q. Can you tell me which jobs?
A. Lynwood Unified School District; I was a school security there for eight years. I worked at a
warehouse, different warehouse job, from '80 -- I can't remember the dates. That was the main
job, was the Lynwood Unified School District. It was in California.
Q. And you said you worked there for eight years. Do you recall the dates or the years that you
worked there?
A. About 1993 to 1999, was when I started there, until 1999.
Q. All right. From 1999 forward, can you tell me what job you had after you left Lynwood
Unified School District?
A. I moved to Las Vegas and worked at Burlington Coat Factory.
Q. When was that?
A. That was in -- had to be in '99 I moved here.
Q. And what did you do at Burlington Coat Factory?
A. Loss prevention.
Q. When you say "loss prevention," what does that entail?
A. Basically work the cameras and look for shoplifters, things of that nature.
Q. And how long did you do that job?
A. I worked there for about four years.
Q. So that would bring us up to about 2003?

A. About 2003. I also worked at Neiman Marcus. I think I started there in maybe 2002. I worked
both jobs. So I was at Neiman Marcus and I also worked at Burlington Coat Factory.
Q. And then you left Burlington Coat Factory --
A. Yeah.
Q. -- in 2003?
A. Yes.
Q. And when did you leave Neiman Marcus?
A. About early 2007.
Q. And what did you do at that point?
A. I worked basically for myself. I had a client, a lawyer, I worked for him as his personal
security.
Q. Who was that lawyer?
A. James Brown, Attorney James Brown.
Q. And he's located in Las Vegas?
A. Yes.
Q. Did you work for anyone else in 2007?
A. Not officially worked for. I traveled with Dr. Conrad Murray.
Q. Where did you travel with Dr. Murray?
A. Everywhere he went. I was, like I say, off the record; I wasn't paid as his security, but I was
his security. It was just understood that I would be -- and I was with Dr. Murray. There was no
contract or anything of that nature or a job.
Q. Okay. So I'll get into the details --
A. Okay.
Q. -- of what you did with Dr. Murray, but right now I'm just kind of wondering about dates.
A. Okay.

Q. Did you start with Dr. Murray in -- around the time you left Neiman Marcus in early 2007?
A. I started with Dr. Murray the day after Michael Jackson passed.
Q. Okay. So that was, again, 2009?
A. Right --
Q. Okay.
A. -- with Dr. Murray.
Q. Okay. So backing up a bit, when you left Neiman Marcus in 2007, you worked for an attorney
named James Brown.
A. Correct.
Q. Did you work for anyone else at that time?
A. No, sir.
Q. Between early 2007 and the day after Michael Jackson passed in 2009, did you work for
anyone else?
A. No, sir.
Q. So it was just Attorney James Brown that you worked for --
A. Right.
Q. -- during that time?
A. Right.
Q. Okay. At some point didn't you work for Michael Jackson?
A. I didn't officially work for Michael. I orchestrated his staff. I didn't actually officially work for
him.
Q. Okay.
A. I had a client, which was Mr. Brown, but I orchestrated the security staff for him.
Q. Understood.

Q. Did you have your own security firm?
A. Yes.
Q. Do you still have that firm?
A. No, sir.
Q. What was the name of that firm?
A. Knockout Security.
Q. And when did you begin that?
A. That was probably in, maybe 2004 we started it, somewhere in there.
Q. When did you first meet Dr. Conrad Murray?
A. Back in the early '90s.
Q. Do you recall a year?
A. I don't recall the year.
Q. Where did you meet him?
A. Los Angeles, California, through a mutual friend.
Q. What was your impression of Dr. Murray when you first met him?
A. Tall, cardiologist. She told me he was a cardiologist. That's about it.
Q. Anything else?
A. No, that was it.
Q. Were you impressed with Dr. Murray when you first met him?
THE WITNESS: When you say -- I mean, I wasn't impressed with him. I'd just met him. It was
just informally, "how are you doing," "this is Dr. Conrad Murray," "I'm Jeffrey Adams," and
that's pretty much how we left it.
Q. Before you went to see him -- well, strike that. You moved to Las Vegas in 1999; is that right?
A. Yes.

Q. Okay. Between the time that you met Dr. Murray in the early '90s and the time that you
moved to Las Vegas in 1999, did you see Dr. Murray in that period?
A. I may have seen him a few times informally at different events, but never personal before I
moved here.
Q. What do you mean by informally but never personal?
A. We may have had like a barbecue and I believe he came to a couple of barbecues that we had.
Q. Were these barbecues in Los Angeles?
A. Los Angeles.
Q. And was he there with Trenesse Walker when he came to the barbecues?
A. No.
Q. Did you invite him to these barbecues, Dr. Murray?
A. No.
Q. Do you know who did?
A. Whoever was hosting, I believe.
Q. Do you know who that would have been?
A. I don't -- No, I don't remember who actually gave him -- back then.
Q. Can you estimate how many times you saw Dr. Murray between the time that you met him
and the time that you moved to Las Vegas in 1999?
A. Approximately three or four.
Q. And then how soon after coming to Las Vegas in 1999 did you visit Dr. Murray for purposes
of medical treatment?
A. How many times?
Q. No. How soon after arriving in Las Vegas did you visit Dr. Murray for medical treatment?
A. Maybe about a year, so maybe in 2000.
Q. Okay. And did you visit him, Dr. Murray, at his office?

A. Yes.
Q. And when did your father become a patient of Dr. Murray's?
A. I would say date, time, maybe late '90s, early 2000 also.
Q. How long did you remain a patient of Dr. Murray's?
A. I was a continuous patient.
Q. Are you still his patient?
A. Oh, he's locked up now. No, not now.
Q. Up until the time that he -- that he became locked up, did you remain his patient?
A. Yes.
Q. Now, you mentioned that you were not officially employed by Dr. Murray but it was
understood that you were his security. Is that right?
A. Yes.
Q. And how did that relationship come about?
A. The day that Michael passed I called Dr. Murray. He was in California. And I asked him was
it true what I was hearing. He said yes. And I asked him was he okay and did he need me, and he
said yes. And at that time my father told me to go to him.
Q. Did Dr. Murray tell you why he needed you?
A. Not at that time, not in that conversation.
Q. Did he later tell you why he needed you?
A. Yes.
Q. And what did he say?
A. Michael Jackson had passed.
Q. And so how did that connect to you?
A. I told him that he had taken care of my father for me and that I would be by his side in this
situation until it was completed.

Q. Now, you mentioned earlier traveling with Dr. Murray. Is that right?
A. Yes.
Q. And was that in this period after Michael Jackson's passing or --
A. Yes.
Q. Okay. Where did you travel with Dr. Murray?
A. Everywhere he went.
Q. And -- fair enough. So let me back up a bit. You called Dr. Murray the day after Michael
Jackson passed; is that correct?
A. It was actually the day of. It was the day of, the day the bulletins were coming across there.
Q. And how did you hear of the news of Michael Jackson's passing?
A. Through TV.
Q. So you heard that Michael Jackson had passed and you called Dr. Murray the same day?
A. Yes.
Q. And you had a conversation with Dr. Murray in which you asked whether what you were
hearing on the news was true?
A. Yes.
Q. And he said that it was?
A. Yes.
Q. And you asked him whether he needed you?
A. Yes.
Q. And he said he did?
A. Yes.
Q. Was there anything else that you talked about in that conversation?
A. I asked him where he was at.

Q. And what did he say?
A. He told me where he was at, he was in California, told me where he was at.
Q. Where was he at that time?
A. In California.
Q. Specific --
A. I don't remember the exact address. Santa Monica.
Q. And did he say anything else during that conversation?
A. Just gave me the address.
Q. What did you do next?
A. Told my father what happened and that he needed me, and my father told me to go.
Q. And did you then travel to Los Angeles?
A. Yes.
Q. How soon after you spoke with Dr. Murray did you travel to Los Angeles?
A. The next morning.
Q. So that was the morning after Michael Jackson's passing?
A. Yes.
Q. And did you meet Dr. Murray at the address that he had given you?
A. Yes.
Q. And what did you discuss with Dr. Murray at that time?
A. Basically it was discussed what happened and what was he going to do from there.
Q. When you say you discussed what happened, can you give me details about that
conversation?
A. I asked him what happened. He said that Michael Jackson had passed. I don't remember if he
told me the cause or not. I can't remember. And that he was going to need a lawyer.

Q. Were you with Dr. Murray in your unofficial security capacity through the time of his trial?
A. Yes.
Q. Was there any time between the time that you arrived in Santa Monica the day after Michael
Jackson's passing and the time that Dr. Murray was convicted that you were not with Dr.
Murray?
A. No.
Q. And where would you go with Dr. Murray during this time period?
A. Everywhere he went.
Q. I'd like to just take you through a timeline from the day you arrived in Santa Monica through
the time of his criminal trial, "his" being Dr. Murray's. Could you walk me through where you
went with Dr. Murray during that time?
THE WITNESS: We went to go eat together, we went to the movies together, we went to
criminal proceedings, meeting lawyers, we took walks together, we lived together, we had an
apartment together, we did everything together.
BY MR. GREELEY:
Q. You lived with Dr. Murray in Santa Monica?
A. Yes.
Q. Were there times that you traveled with Dr. Murray during this time period between Michael
Jackson's passing and Dr. Murray's conviction outside of Los Angeles?
A. Yes.
Q. Where did you travel on those occasions?
A. Las Vegas, Houston, San Diego, Philadelphia, Boston, Miami. That's about it that I can recall.
Q. Did you ever accompany Dr. Murray to any visits with his patients?
A. Yes.
Q. Was that in Las Vegas?
A. Las Vegas and Houston.

Q. Do you recall how many visits you -- for which you were present between Dr. Murray and his
patients in Las Vegas?
A. Every time he went to the office I was with him, and I would stay until we left the office.
Q. And would Dr. Murray go to his office every time that he returned to Las Vegas with you
during this time period?
A. If he had patients scheduled. It depended on scheduling. Did Dr. Murray during the time that
you were working as his unofficial security see patients in Los Angeles?
A. No.
Q. Okay. So you mentioned that he saw patients in Houston and in Las Vegas, correct?
A. Correct.
Q. Was there anywhere else that you know of that Dr. Murray saw patients during this time
period?
A. No.
Q. You mentioned that you were not present for any interactions between Dr. Murray and his
patients. Correct?
A. Correct. When you say that his patients were his friends too, what do you mean by that?
A. They had a friend/patient relationship.
Q. Who were you referring to specifically when you say that?
A. Different patients in Houston. Honestly, I can't remember their names, you know, but his
pastor that was in Houston was also his patient, a number of pastors, a number of people he went
to church with were also his patients, and his friends as well I'm speaking of.
Q. So Dr. Murray, at least during the time that you were with him as unofficial security, saw his
patients socially as well as professionally?
A. Yes.
Q. Were there any patients, to your knowledge, that were exceptions to that rule?
A. When you say "exceptions"...
Q. In other words, were there any patients of which you were aware that Dr. Murray only saw
professionally and did not maintain a friendly relationship with?

THE WITNESS: I would have to say I don't -- everyone that was his patient he didn't go to
church with, we didn't have dinner with every one of his patients, but they were his patients. So
if that best answers the question.
BY MR. GREELEY:
Q. Okay. So Dr. Murray saw some of his patients socially but did not see others --
A. Yes.
Q. -- socially; is that fair? Okay. Did there come a point in time over the next several months
when you were living with Dr. Murray and traveling with Dr. Murray that you discussed in more
detail Michael Jackson's passing?
A. Not really. I made statements, you know, but he never discussed with me how Michael passed.
It was more of a, you know, sympathetic thing from me to him, that kind of thing. But he never
gave me any indication as to how -- other than what I saw on TV, we never discussed it. He
never clarified anything with me.
Q. Did he ever describe to you what kind of medical treatment he was engaged in with Michael
Jackson?
A. No.
BY MR. GREELEY:
Q. At some point, did your engagement as unofficial security for Dr. Murray end?
A. Yes.
Q. And when did that happen?
A. The day he got convicted.
Q. And did it end because he was going to jail?
A. Yes.
Q. Was there any other reason?
A. No.
Q. Are you still in communication with Dr. Murray?
A. No.

Q. When is the last time you spoke to Dr. Murray?
A. The day he got convicted.
Q. So the last time you saw Dr. Murray was the day of his sentencing, correct?
A. Correct. From 1999 when you moved to Las Vegas until the time that Dr. Murray was
convicted, was there ever a period where you were out of contact with him?
A. Yes. I didn't get in touch with him until I needed him as a personal doctor when I moved here
that I got in touch with him, which might have been maybe early 2000. I don't know the exact
date. That's when he became my personal doctor and my father's personal doctor.
Q. And from that point forward, you had regular contact with him, from 2000 forward?
A. Yes.
Q. Now, you mentioned previously orchestrating security for Michael Jackson, I think is how
you put it. Is that right?
A. Yes.
Q. And do you recall when that project began?
A. 2006.
Q. Do you recall what month?
A. December.
Q. And how did that project come about?
A. I want to say a friend of his -- I'm sorry -- a friend of mine called me who might have been his
-- I think it was his security, John, called me and said that they were -- Basheer is his Muslim
name, it's Basheer.
Q. Do you know how that's spelled?
A. B-a-s-h-i-e-r.
Q. And what is Basheer's last name?
A. I don't know his last name. I've always called him John or Basheer.
Q. I've heard the name Basheer Muhammad. Do you know if that's his --

A. That's not his -- I mean, he uses Muhammad, but that's not his real name, that's not his official
name.
Q. That's his Muslim name?
A. Muslim name, correct.
Q. So Basheer Muhammad or John, as you call him --
A. Right.
Q. -- if I refer to him as "Mr. Muhammad," you'll understand --
A. That's fine.
Q. -- who I'm talking about?
A. That's fine.
Q. Now, you say that you -- after this point ecember 2006 you worked periodically --
A. Yes.
Q. -- as Michael Jackson's security --
A. Yes.
Q. -- I think you said for events. Is that right?
A. Right.
Q. Were you aware that Dr. Murray knew Michael Jackson prior to the time of Michael Jackson's
passing?
A. Yes.
Q. And how did you become aware of that?
A. I introduced Dr. Murray to Michael Jackson.
Q. Do you recall when that was?
A. It had to be in, I want to say, early 2007. I don't know the exact date. Early 2007.
Q. And are you certain that was the first time that the two met Dr. Murray and Michael Jackson?

A. I'm positive.
Q. Okay. Are you aware of Dr. Murray ever visiting Michael's home at Neverland Ranch?
A. I'm not aware of it.
Q. Okay. What led to you introducing Dr. Murray and Michael Jackson?
A. Mr. Muhammad called me one evening in 2007, I want to say maybe February; I don't know
the month, but early in 2007, and said that Mr. Jackson's children were sick and needed to go to
the hospital and that Michael didn't want to take them to a public hospital due to the fact that
they didn't have -- they weren't made up or didn't have anything to cover their faces, and did we
know any doctors that could make home calls. And I told him I could reach out to my doctor, Dr.
Murray, and see if he would be willing to come over and, you know, take a look at them.
Q. What did Mr. Muhammad say?
A. Can you get a resume for him, does he have a resume, how long have you known him, you
know, can he be trusted, and things of that nature.
Q. So Mr. Muhammad did not know Dr. Murray at this time?
A. No.
Q. What did you say when Mr. Muhammad asked whether Dr. Murray could be trusted?
A. I said he's been my doctor. He's my friend. He definitely can be trusted. If he will do it. I don't
know that he will do it, but I'll definitely reach out to him and ask him for a favor and see if he
can do it.
Q. And did you reach out to Dr. Murray?
A. Yes.
Q. By telephone or in person?
A. Telephone.
Q. How long after Mr. Muhammad called you did you reach out to Dr. Murray?
A. Immediately. Maybe five, ten minutes.
Q. And can you tell me about that conversation between you and Dr. Murray?

A. I told Dr. Murray that I needed a huge favor from him, that I had a high-profile client that I
was working with, I couldn't give him the name, but that once he got there he would know who
he was, would he mind going over and taking a look at his children, the client's children for me,
you know, because I can't take them to a regular hospital, and once you get there you'll
understand, you know, what's going on at the time. And he said he was -- I want to say I believe
he was at the hospital. He said I could maybe get there by, I want to say -- I don't know the exact
time -- a few hours after we had spoken, and I gave him the address and then I called back and
told Mr. Muhammad that Dr. Murray would be coming, he would be in this kind of car. And he
agreed, you know, to come in to at least assess the situation.
Q. And did you go to the house when Dr. Murray --
A. I didn't go that night. I came the following day.
Q. Did, to your knowledge, Dr. Murray go that night to --
A. Yes, he went --
Q. -- Michael Jackson's house?
A. Yes.
Q. Do you know what happened when he visited the house that night?
A. I don't know what happened that night. I spoke -- I went there the next day and asked, Did Dr.
Murray come? He said, He came. I said, Was everything okay? He said, Everything's fine.
Q. Who did you have that conversation with?
A. Mr. Muhammad.
Q. Did Mr. Muhammad say that Mr. Jackson had hired him?
A. No.
Q. Did Mr. Muhammad say anything about a future relationship between Dr. Murray and Mr.
Jackson?
A. No, he didn't mention it.
Q. You had mentioned that Michael's kids were sick at the time. Is that right?
A. Yes.
Q. Did Muhammad say that Dr. Murray was going to treat Michael's kids?

A. He didn't say. I just asked did everything go okay. He said everything was fine.
Q. Okay. Did you talk to Dr. Murray after that point about the meeting?
A. Yes.
Q. And did he say whether he was going to take on Michael's children as patients?
A. He didn't mention it.
Q. Did you ever discuss Dr. Murray with Michael Jackson?
A. Other than Michael thanking me for bringing him over to see the children, that was the only
conversation we had.
Q. When did that conversation occur?
A. It might have been a day or two after Dr. Murray had seen the children.
Q. And what did Michael say to you exactly?
A. Muhammad told him, Mr. Muhammad told Michael that this was the guy that referred Dr.
Conrad Murray to him. He said, "I want to thank you very much, he was a very professional
doctor, and I appreciate it." You mentioned on the phone call that you initially had with Mr.
Muhammad that Mr. Muhammad asked you for a resume for Dr. Murray.
A. Yes.
Q. Did you ever provide that to Mr. Muhammad?
A. I told him I wouldn't give him a resume. You know, we were doing him a favor. And he
agreed.
Q. And did you check in with Dr. Murray after that point about whether he was continuing to
visit Michael Jackson or Michael Jackson's children?
A. I knew he was back over at the house. I don't know how their relationship went. But I would
come over at times and he would be there.
Q. Do you know, from February of 2007 forward, approximately how frequently Dr. Murray
would visit Michael Jackson's house in Las Vegas?
A. No, because I wasn't there on a continuous basis. I mean, one or two times I would come by
and I'd see the car in the driveway. I didn't know what he was there doing or why he was there.

Q. You mentioned in some previous testimony that Dr. Murray was friends with some of his
patients. Do you recall that?
A. Yes.
Q. But you mentioned that Dr. Murray was a cardiologist. Right?
A. Yeah, and he was also a specialist in, what do you call that? He can do general -- some of
everything. I don't know what the word is for the doctor, they can do that, but he was also that.
Q. Did you ever feel that Dr. Murray tried to hide his interactions with Michael Jackson?
THE WITNESS: No.
Q. Now I'm wondering about the time prior to Michael Jackson passing. You mentioned in some
previous testimony that periodically you would speak with Dr. Murray in a social setting.
Correct?
A. Correct.
Q. And that Dr. Murray was a family friend?
A. Right.
Q. And I'm wondering if you had that kind of social contact in the months leading up to Michael
Jackson's passing.
A. Yes. He did my father's surgery. He put my father's stents in prior to Michael passing.
Q. Do you recall when that was approximately?
A. I'd have to check. Maybe somewhere 2007 or 2008.
Q. Did you witness Michael Jackson making decisions?
A. No.
Q. Did you ever witness other people making decisions for Michael Jackson?
A. No.
Q. Did you ever hear Michael say that he needed someone else to make decisions for him?
A. No.
Q. Did you ever hear him say that he was unable to do certain things himself?

A. No.
Q. Did you ever see anyone telling Michael Jackson what to do?
A. No.
Q. During the time that you worked in security for Michael Jackson, did his family members
often visit him?
A. I only saw Mr. Jackson and Randy Jackson one time while I was there.
Q. When you say "Mr. Jackson," are you referring to Joe Jackson?
A. Joe Jackson.
Q. When did you see Joe Jackson?
A. It was one evening I came over.
Q. And where was Joe when you came over?
A. He was inside the gate.
Q. Inside the gate but outside the house?
A. Right.
Q. What was he doing there?
A. He wanted to see Michael.
Q. You mentioned seeing Randy Jackson at the house on one occasion?
A. Yes, right.
Q. Actually, I don't want to put words in your mouth. Was it only one occasion that you --
A. I only saw him on one occasion, one time.
Q. Did you ever see his mother, Katherine Jackson, come by the house?
A. No.
Q. Can you estimate how much money you received in total for providing security for Dr.
Murray?

A. No. I didn't keep -- from the time we started till -- no, I couldn't tell you. I wouldn't know.
Q. Okay. Let me see if I have the right time period in mind. You started providing security for
him the day after Michael Jackson died?
A. Yes, stayed with him from that day forward.
Q. And that was June 26, 2009.
A. Okay.
Q. Michael Jackson died on June 25th, 2009.
A. Yes.
Q. And you provided security for him up until the day he was convicted?
A. Yes.
Q. When he went into incarceration?
A. Custody, yes.
Q. Do you know what date that was?
A. The date, no. It was the last day of the trial.