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Boiler License Advisory Committee Meeting Minutes
Date: Time: Location: Oct. 10, 2007 9 a.m. to 12 noon City of Mankato Intergovernmental Center, 10 Civic Center Plaza

* Introduction of all members ** Suggestions for short-term solution lack of qualified operators statewide. *** Identify urgent need for operators’ statewide. 1. Allow currently licensed Chief C Engineers a certain amount of credit or hours toward a High Pressure license. a. If currently licensed Chief C’s were allowed 4,000 hours toward HP experience, this would make them eligible to test for a Second Class B License, but they must have an additional 2,000 hours of operating experience to test for the First Class B. b. This may be a violation of Minnesota Statutes 183.51, Subd. 11:
Subd. 11. Second-class engineer, Grade B. A person seeking licensure as a second-class engineer, Grade B, shall be at least 18 years of age and have habits and experience which justify the belief that the person is competent to take charge of and be responsible for the safe operation and maintenance of all classes of boilers of not more than 100 horsepower or to operate as a shift engineer in a plant of not more than 300 horsepower or to assist the shift engineer, under direct supervision, in a plant of unlimited horsepower. Before receiving a license the applicant shall take and subscribe an oath attesting to at least one year of actual experience in operating such boilers.

2. Allow for a two-year school option with approved curriculum or a four-year engineering degree equal to two years of operating experience. a. This may also be a violation of MS 183.51, Subd. 11, applicant shall take and subscribe
an oath attesting to at least one year of actual experience in operating such boilers.

b. At this time, educational training is not considered actual operating experience.


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3. Create a task-based training process with evaluation of employee. Start continuing education, employee qualification, OJT qualifications and assigned Personal Qualification Standards. a. This might be more of a long-term solution, which will be discussed in a future meeting, except each location may create its own training program for the specific boilers and equipment at their facility. b. This would be based on hours of training and evaluation of employee and may allow for upgrading license in a shorter time span. 4. Provisional License: Create a provisional license to allow Second Class B Engineers to operate boilers more than 300 with at least one year of operating experience on high pressure boilers and a signed letter from the Chief Engineer of the facility verifying the individual is trained and qualified to operate the boilers at their facility. This idea would work well for new plants, and allow them to train the operators prior to start up. This provisional license would only be valid at the location/boiler plant where it is issued. Plants with the immediate need for licensed engineers must apply to the department and request a certain number of provisional licenses. The facility must have a designated Chief Engineer and at least half of their Operating Engineers must be properly licensed First Class B, or higher, Engineers in accordance with current statute. This plan would require an emergency waiver signed by the Governor.