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Boiler License Advisory Committee Meeting Minutes
Date: Time: Location: Nov. 14, 2007 9 a.m. to 2 p.m. CHS, Mankato

* Discussed all four options for the short term solution to the lack of First Class licensed engineers for high pressure plants. ** Option #1 Allow licensed Chief C Engineers to test for a high pressure license. If all Chief C licensed engineers area allowed the opportunity to test for the First Class license this would create an immediate shortage of properly licensed Low Pressure boiler operators. The consensus was to utilize the five years of low pressure experience in the long term solution as some amount of credit towards high pressure experience. The amount of credit will be decided by the committee. This would also require a statute change that will be written by the committee for proposal to the legislature. ***Option #2 Allow for two years of school with approved curriculum or a four-year engineering degree to equal two years of operating experience. The committee agreed that this may be an option for the long term solution to allow individuals with a four year degree in engineering to test for a Second Class B license. The committee agreed that to test for a higher class license it would require OJT or actual operating experience combined with the four years of education. ****Option #3 Create a task based training process with evaluation of employee. Start continuing education, employee qualification, OJT qualifications and assigned Personal Qualification Standards. We will be using this in the short-term and long-term solution. This should also be used in conjunction with option #4. *****Option #4 The committee voted and agreed to utilize the provisional license as the short term solution to the lack of properly licensed individuals. This idea would work well for new plants, and allow them to train the operators prior to start up. The committee also voted and agreed to only giving the provisionally licensed individual one exam for the First Class license once they have completed their training and 6,000 hours of documented operating experience. -more-

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Provisional License: Create a provisional license to allow Second Class B or A Engineers to operate boilers more than 300 with at least one year of operating experience on high pressure boilers and a signed letter from the Chief Engineer and the Plant Manager of the facility verifying the individual is trained and qualified to safely operate the boilers at their facility. This provisional license may be revoked by the department with a written request from the properly licensed Chief Engineer of the facility at any time for due cause. This provisional license will expire after 36 months from the date of issue. The provisionally licensed individual must test for and pass the First Class license prior to the expiration of the provisional license to continue operating boilers of unlimited horsepower as a shift engineer. The facility must have a designated properly licensed Chief Engineer and at least half of their Operating Engineers must be properly licensed First Class B, or higher, Engineers in accordance with current statute. The location requesting the provisional license must have a documented training program and examination for each individual that is provisionally licensed. This provisional license would only be valid at the location or boiler plant where it is issued. Plants with the immediate need for licensed engineers must apply to the department on the forms prescribed by the Chief Boiler Inspector, pay the required fee, and request the provisional licenses. This written request must include the following: 1. The reason or need for the provisionally licensed engineers 2. The number of provisional licenses requested 3. The names and license numbers of the engineers that will be receiving the license 4. The names and signatures of the Chief Engineer and the Plant Manager 5. The total number of properly licensed engineers at the facility including names and license numbers. Provisional license restrictions: (need approval from committee) 1. The holder of a provisional license may not sign affidavits for other engineers. All affidavits must be signed by the properly licensed Chief Engineer of the facility. 2. Shall not be designated to train other apprentices during their shift. 3. Will not generate training program materials 4. May only post provisional license in the plant or boiler room of the facility where the license was requested from.