Minutes as reviewed and approved by members at 6-27-07 PCAC meeting Minutes of the May 23, 2007 Meeting of the Plumbing Code

Advisory Committee The meeting was called to order at 8:30 a.m., on May 23, 2007, at the Department of Labor and Industry, St, Paul, Minnesota. Present were: Dennis Watters, Larry Justin, Kevin O’Laughlin, Tim McQuillan, Dan Hauck, John Parizek, Pat Ellingson, Loren Kohnen, Tim Urista, , Ira Funderburk, Jeffery Hill, Gretchen Sabel, Sara Christopherson. Staff Present: Randy Ellingboe, Jim Peterson, Cathy Tran, and Wendy Legge Moderator: Charlie Petersen, Management Consultant, Minnesota Department of Administration Agenda for the meeting: 1. 2. 3. 4. Introductions Distribution of materials – email and US Mail Minutes of April 25, 2007, meeting Requests for Action a. Siphonic Roof Drainage System, Mr. John Rattenbury, P.E., RMS Engineering, LLC b. Air admittance valves, Jack Beuschel, Studor, Inc. 5. Draft rule language and statement of need and reasonableness (SONAR) from Requests for Action (RFA) presented 3-28-07 and 4-25-07 6. DLI proposed rule revisions a. M.R. 4715.2800 - inspections After introductions and discussion of the agenda, there was an update on legislation that would create a Plumbing Board, and prohibit use of air admittance valves and waterless urinals. The Plumbing Board would replace the Plumbing Code Advisory Committee (PCAC) and take responsibility for approval of Plumbing Code amendments from the Department of Labor and Industry (DLI). The legislation on these issues has passed both the House and Senate, and is at the Governor’s office awaiting signature. However, since the legislation is not final, the PCAC will proceed with review of code revisions until notified otherwise. Minutes of April 25, 2007, meeting The Minutes of the April 25, 2007 meeting were reviewed and corrected reflecting the PCAC’s voting record at the last meeting. Randy Ellingboe also gave a reminder that votes on Requests for Action should be recorded on the Checklists, which should be returned to the DLI. A motion was made to approve the minutes as corrected, and approved by unanimous voice vote.

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Minutes as reviewed and approved by members at 6-27-07 PCAC meeting Requests for Action: New Material Standards Siphonic Roof Drainage System, Mr. John Rattenbury, P.E., RMS Engineering, LLC Mr. John Rattenbury of RMS Engineering, gave a presentation on Siphonic Roof Drainage systems, and the standards that apply to such installations. The presentation was for a request to include such systems in the Minnesota Plumbing Code, specifically Minnesota Rules part 4715.2700, Storm Drainage. Mr. Rattenbury was questioned by members as to the process needed for plan review and inspections of such a system. The members also had questions and concerns regarding siphonic roof drainage system as it relates to the responsibilities the designer, installer, and final inspection of such an engineered system. Other questions from members were regarding: (1) impacts of field alterations of the piping and maintenance of drain bodies on an existing siphonic system, and implications from altering an engineered system (2) the need for marking and identification of the piping for siphonic roof drainage system, (3) whether siphonic roof drains are designed for controlled flow at maximum height of ponding. Motion and second: Have staff review language in the RFA and what sections of the code need to be changed, and create model language to address the issues discussed at this meeting including labeling, engineering sign-off, plan review by state with design calculations to be submitted with plans, reference applicable standards, and look at controlled flow restrictions. The motion was passed, on a voice vote and a written vote of 11 to accept, and 1 reject. Air admittance valves, Jack Beuschel, Studor, Inc. Mr. Jack Beuschel of the Studor, Inc. presented a Request for Action to amend the Minnesota Plumbing Code to allow the use of air admittance valves complying with American Society of Sanitary Engineers (ASSE) standards 1050 and 1051. This language would be added to the Venting section of the Minnesota Plumbing Code, in Minnesota Rules parts 4715.0100, and 4715.2600. Motion and second: to table consideration of the issue given pending Plumbing Board and air admittance valve legislation, until next PCAC meeting. Voice vote: 9 ayes, 3 nayes. Item was tabled until the June 27, 2007 meeting. Not all checklists were prepared and submitted by members since the motion was to table the item. The received written vote was 4 to accept tabling and one to reject.

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Minutes as reviewed and approved by members at 6-27-07 PCAC meeting Draft rule language from Requests for Action (RFA) presented at PCAC meetings on March 28, 2007 and April 25, 2007 Cathy Tran of the Plumbing Plan Review and Inspection Unit presented the proposed rule language to reflect the approved requests at the previous PCAC meetings dated March 28, 2007 and April 25, 2007. The attached language includes all amendments that were discussed and approved by members. These include: March 28, 2007 • 4715.0420, Subpart 3, Subitem 3R. Approved as proposed. • 4715.0805 Amended to include languages requiring installer certification by the manufacturer of the product. Approved with amendment. • 4715.0850, Subpart 6 Approved with friendly grammar amendment. • 4715.1120 Approved with friendly grammar amendment. April 25, 2007 • 4715.0420, Subpart 3, Subitem 6I. Approved as proposed. • 4715.0510, Item G Amended to include languages requiring installer certification by the manufacturer of the product. Approved with amendment. • 4715.1710 Approved as proposed. These items all passed with unanimous voice vote as amended. The revised language is attached at the end of these minutes. DLI proposed rule revisions Department of Labor and Industry staff presented a draft of the proposed change to Minnesota Rules, part 4715.2800, on inspections and permits. Staff informed members that the Plumbing Plan Review and Inspection Unit has been instructed to draft languages to provide a list of plumbing work where the local jurisdiction may waive permits, inspection, and testing requirements. In some jurisdictions, permits are required for any plumbing work covered under the Minnesota Plumbing Code, with the exception of clearing stoppages in pipes. There were many concerns and questions from members about the proposed language as it may lead to (1) persons without a license (if required) or bond installing plumbing, if a permit is not required; (2) the requirement on having no violations may effectively eliminate all plumbers from plumbing work done under the proposed waiver provision, since virtually all plumbers have some violations or enforcement taken against them one time or another; and (3) the local jurisdiction may just waive any plumbing work from permitting and inspection under the proposed language. Some members suggested that the existing language of 4715.2800 should remain as is. Further discussions were held and suggestions obtained from members to clarify the language to ensure proper administration of this provision. The suggestions from members for modification

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Minutes as reviewed and approved by members at 6-27-07 PCAC meeting of the change to 4715.2800 are as described in the attached language. A motion was made to have DLI staff email the amended language to members for further review and comment for the upcoming June meeting. This motion passed on a voice vote, although it was not unanimous. The Committee agreed that they will meet on June 27, 2007 from 8:30am to 12:00 pm. Meeting adjourned. Respectfully Submitted,

James H. Peterson, Secretary Plumbing Code Advisory Committee

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Minutes as reviewed and approved by members at 6-27-07 PCAC meeting

PROPOSED CODE REVISIONS RFAs 3/28/07
4715.0420, Subpart 3 Standards for plumbing materials.
DESCRIPTION ANSI/A SSE 10612006 ASTM FS OTHER

3R Removable and Non-Removable PushFit Fittings for Copper Pipe (3/8 to 2 inches only)

NSF 61

SONAR: 4715.0420, Subpart 3, Subitem 3R. This proposed amendment is added to allow the use of removable and nonremovable push type fittings for joining of copper pipe that complies with ASTM B88. The fittings must be manufactured to comply with ANSI/ASSE 1061-2006 and meet NSF 61 for potable water components. The proposed use of this fitting was reviewed by the Plumbing Code Advisory Committee for the Minnesota Department of Labor and Industry and recommended for inclusion in the rule. Adoption of this proposed subitem recognizes current technologies, materials, and methods, thereby increasing the number of safe and sanitary options available. 4715.0805 Push-On Joints. Subpart 1. Water Service Joints. Push-on joints may be used in cast iron and ductile iron water service pipe located underground outside the building, and must comply with ANSI-A21.11-85. Lead-tipped gaskets are prohibited. Subpart 2. Water Distribution Joints. Removable and nonremovable push-fit fittings that comply with ANSI/ASSE 10612006 may be used in copper pipe water distribution for aboveground installation. The installer must be certified by the manufacturer to install that manufacturer’s fitting. SONAR: 4715.0805. This proposed amendment is to reformat and add new subparts to accommodate additional joint proposed for water distribution as added in proposed 4715.0420, subpart 3, 3(R). Because manufacturers have different installation instructions, the Plumbing Code Advisory Committee for the Minnesota Department of Labor and Industry recommended for

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Minutes as reviewed and approved by members at 6-27-07 PCAC meeting inclusion in the rule that the installer must be certified prior to installing that manufacturer’s fitting. 4715.0850, Subpart 6 Copper water tube. Joints in copper water tubing shall be made either by the appropriate use of approved brass or wrought copper water fittings properly soldered or brazed; by means of approved flared fittings as provided in part 4715.0770; or by means of press type copper and copper alloy fittings on aboveground water distribution copper tubing, sizes 1/2-inch to 4-inch, installed in accordance with IAPMO Standard PS 117-2002; or by means of push-fit fittings for aboveground water distribution, installed in accordance with ANSI/ASSE 1061-2006, which must not be embedded in concrete. SONAR: 4715.0850, Subpart 6. This proposed amendment is needed for consistency with proposed part 4715.0420, subpart 3, 3(R). 4715.1120 OIL AND FLAMMABLE LIQUIDS SEPARATOR. Enclosed garages of over 1,000 square feet or housing more than four motor vehicles, repair garages, gasoline stations with grease racks, work or wash racks, auto washes, and all buildings where oily and/or flammable liquid wastes are produced shall have a separator installed into which all oil, grease, and sand bearing and/or flammable wastes shall be discharged before emptying into the building drainage system or other point of disposal, when floor drains or trench drains are provided. Exception: Private garages classified as Group U occupancies serving one- and two-family dwellings. Each separator shall be of watertight construction and of not less than 35 cubic feet holding capacity, be provided with a water seal of not less than three inches on the inlet and not less than 18 inches on the outlet. The minimum depth below the invert of the discharge drain shall be three feet. The minimum size of the discharge drain shall be four inches. The separator may be constructed either: (i) of monolithic poured reinforced concrete with a minimum floor and wall thickness of six inches, or (ii) of iron or steel of a minimum thickness of 3/16 inch, protected with an approved corrosion resistant coating on both the inside and the outside. , or (iii) of fiberglass resins that comply with ASTM C581 and meets IAPMO Material and Property Standard, PS 802003b, for clarifiers.

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Minutes as reviewed and approved by members at 6-27-07 PCAC meeting SONAR: 4715.1120. This proposed amendment reflects the acceptance of fiberglass construction material proposed for use in oil and flammable liquids separator. This fiberglass material must comply with ASTM C-581 and must meet IAPMO Material and Property Standard, PS 80-2003b for clarifiers. This fiberglass material has been reviewed and approved for use on a case-by-case basis as an engineered and manufactured separator in accordance with 4715.1100. The proposed use of this new material was reviewed by the Plumbing Code Advisory Committee for the Minnesota Department of Labor and Industry and recommended for inclusion in the rule. Adoption of this proposed subitem recognizes current technologies, materials, and methods, thereby increasing the number of safe and sanitary options available.

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PROPOSED CODE REVISIONS RFA 4/25/07

4715.0420, Subpart 3

Standards for plumbing materials.
DESCRIPTION 6I Polyethylene/Aluminum/Polyethylene (PE-AL-PE) Composite Pressure Pipe (up to 1 inch only) ANSI ASTM F1282 FS OTHER NSF 14 NSF 61

SONAR: 4715.0420, Subpart 3, Subitem 6I. This proposed amendment would allow the use of polyethylene/aluminum/polyethylene composite pressure pipe for water service for up to 1 inch as requested in the application. The pipe must be manufactured to comply with ASTM Standard D1282 and meet NSF 14 and 61 for potable water. This use of PE-AL-PE piping was reviewed by the Plumbing Code Advisory Committee for the Minnesota Department of Labor and Industry and recommended for inclusion in the rule. Adoption of this proposed subitem recognizes current technologies, materials, and methods, thereby increasing the number of safe and sanitary options available. 4715.0510 G. Plastic pipe 6D, 6E, 6F, and 6G,, and 6H, and 6I may be used for water service pipe only up to the water meter or pressure tank and provided there is no more than two feet of such piping exposed within the building. These materials shall be installed in accordance with ASTM D 2774-72. Particular care shall be taken to avoid sharp edges in contact with the pipe and to provide for expansion and contraction. Plastic pipe 6I must be installed by a factory trained installer in accordance with the manufacturer’s installation instructions. SONAR: 4715.0510, Item G. This amendment is needed for consistency with proposed part 4715.0420, subpart 3, 6I. Plumbing Code Advisory Committee for the Minnesota Department of Labor and Industry recommended for inclusion in the rule that the installer must be trained by the manufacturer prior to installing that manufacturer’s pipe system.

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4715.1710

Subpart 2. Separation of water service and building sewer, Item D. Where the provisions of items A and B cannot be met, the sewer pipe shall be of cast iron or plastic 6A, 6B, 6C(2), or 6C(3) and the water pipe of copper, ductile or cast iron, or plastic 6D, 6E, 6F, or 6G, 6H, or 6I (part 4715.0420, subpart 3). SONAR: 4715.1710, Subpart 2, Item D. This amendment is needed for consistency with proposed part 4715.0420, subpart 3, 6H and 6I.

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Minutes as reviewed and approved by members at 6-27-07 PCAC meeting 4715.2800 INSPECTIONS, TESTING, AND PERMITS. New plumbing systems and parts of existing systems which have been altered, extended, or repaired shall be inspected and tested by the proper administrative authority to ensure compliance with all the requirements of this code and the installation and construction of the system in accordance with the approved plan and the permit, except that testing may be waived for work which does not include addition to, replacement, alteration, or relocation of any water supply, drainage, or vent piping. All the piping shall be tested and after the plumbing fixtures have been set, and before the system is put into use, the system shall be given a final inspection and test by the proper administrative authority. The equipment, material, power, and labor necessary for the inspection must be furnished by the plumbing contractor. Subpart 1. Definition. The term “permit” as used in this part means the permit for plumbing work required under part 1300.0120. Subpart 2. Inspection and testing required. Except as provided in subpart 3, any person who installs a new plumbing system or who alters, extends, or repairs an existing system shall ensure that the new system or portion of the existing system that has been altered, extended or repaired has passed a final inspection and test before it is put into use. The proper administrative authority shall perform the final inspection and shall witness the test. The plumbing shall pass the inspection if it complies with the requirements of this code, the requirements of any permit, and the requirements of any plan approved under part 4715.3130. Testing shall comply with part 4715.2820. Subpart 3. Exceptions to inspection, testing, and permits. (a) Unless the plumbing work requires approval of a plan under part 4715.3130, the administrative authority may waive plumbing permit, inspection, and testing requirements for the following plumbing work in a single family home as allowed by Minnesota Statute 326.40 : 1. The reconnection of an existing water supply line to a replacement appliance that does not involve the replacement or alteration of the existing water supply line (i.e.: refrigerators with water connection, water coolers, water conditioning equipment, etc.) 2. Replacement of the internal working components of existing water closets, faucets and valves. 3. Replacement of sink faucets when the work does not include alterations to the existing plumbing piping system within the walls, floors and/or floor/ceiling assemblies. 4. Replacement or resetting of water closets when the work does not include alterations to the existing plumbing piping system within the walls, floors, and/or flooring/ceiling assemblies.

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Minutes as reviewed and approved by members at 6-27-07 PCAC meeting (b) The administrative authority may waive testing requirements for plumbing work that does not include any addition to, replacement, alteration, or relocation of any water supply, drainage, or vent piping.

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