ETCon 01 – July 27 2009 Lesson Slides and Virtual Classrooms. Do we really need them?

Chat Transcript
[Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:32:51 PM EDT] E-Teachers Academy : Hi Harman :) [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:35:05 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : Hi Kirte [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:35:38 PM EDT] E-Teachers Academy : hi everyone [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:36:38 PM EDT] Harman : hi Kirsten [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:37:14 PM EDT] Harman : can you hear me? [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:41:01 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : is anybody here [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:42:22 PM EDT] Giselle Santos : hi there [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:42:47 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : hallo [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:43:07 PM EDT] Kevin@Dimdim : hi [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:43:28 PM EDT] Giselle Santos : cn hear some background noise ... [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:43:30 PM EDT] Giselle Santos : yes [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:43:31 PM EDT] Kevin@Dimdim : I could hear that [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:44:03 PM EDT] Giselle Santos : I heard that too..but I am not sure if someone is saying my name [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:44:25 PM EDT] Elisa Delaini : hello! [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:45:30 PM EDT] Giselle Santos : hello Elisa [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:45:37 PM EDT] Kevin@Dimdim : Heike, how large is your presentation file? [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:47:24 PM EDT] Giselle Santos : yes [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:47:27 PM EDT] Harman : yes [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:47:28 PM EDT] Kevin@Dimdim : I can hear you fine [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:48:03 PM EDT] Elisa Delaini : i hear you well [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:49:57 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : does anybody hear me? [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:50:02 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : I am using my mic to speak [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:50:17 PM EDT] Kevin@Dimdim : I can hear you but it's very soft [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:50:35 PM EDT] Kevin@Dimdim : if you right click on one of the video windows, choose Settings [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:50:38 PM EDT] Giselle Santos : sorry but I can't hear you [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:50:50 PM EDT] Kevin@Dimdim : that will bring up the Adobe Flash settings, click on the tab with a picture of the microphone [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:51:12 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : it seems my webcam mic is working and not my usb headset [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:51:22 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : how do I change this without having moderator rights [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:51:24 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : I wonder [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:51:34 PM EDT] Kevin@Dimdim : if you go to the settings you can select another microphone [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:51:45 PM EDT] Kevin@Dimdim : Keike, right click on the video window and pick settings [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:51:50 PM EDT] Elisa Delaini : do you hear me? [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:52:18 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : does anybody hear me, this is Heike, I keep speaking [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:52:22 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : did you hear me? [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:52:40 PM EDT] Kevin@Dimdim : Heike, were you able to open the settings? [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:52:51 PM EDT] Kevin@Dimdim : Elisa, I'm not sure, would you say your name into the microphone? [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:53:02 PM EDT] Kevin@Dimdim : I hear you well [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:53:06 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : I hear Elisa fine [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:53:10 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : loud and clear [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:53:20 PM EDT] Kevin@Dimdim : Heike, were you able to change your settings? [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:53:31 PM EDT] Koichi : whaaat's up everyone! :) [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:53:36 PM EDT] Kevin@Dimdim : you can change your microphone under settings [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:53:50 PM EDT] Kevin@Dimdim : hi [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:53:56 PM EDT] Giselle Santos : can hear u fine [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:54:14 PM EDT] Kevin@Dimdim : Heike, you have to right click on the video

ETCon 01 – July 27 2009 Lesson Slides and Virtual Classrooms. Do we really need them? Chat Transcript
window. [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:54:15 PM EDT] Giselle Santos : yes just fine [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:54:19 PM EDT] Kevin@Dimdim : I can hear you [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:54:19 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : too loud [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:54:29 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : very loud Harman [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:55:31 PM EDT] Kevin@Dimdim : perfect [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:55:51 PM EDT] Astrid Huijs : normal now [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:55:57 PM EDT] Kevin@Dimdim : sounds good [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:56:10 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : super duper [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:56:32 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : I know this way to click into my webcam image, but didnt know this in this picture [Mon 27 Jul 2009 01:56:37 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : thx [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:00:05 PM EDT] Kevin@Dimdim : hi. for those just joining, Kirsten at e-teachers academy is uploading the slides now. [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:00:21 PM EDT] Koichi : sounds fabulous [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:02:05 PM EDT] E-Teachers Academy : ok [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:02:12 PM EDT] E-Teachers Academy : nearly finished :) [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:02:20 PM EDT] Koichi : brb [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:02:22 PM EDT] E-Teachers Academy : one more presentation to upload [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:03:53 PM EDT] Giselle Santos : ok thanks [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:04:29 PM EDT] Kevin@Dimdim : Hi, I'm Kevin Micalizzi from Dimdim. Joining out of our offices in Lowell, MA (just north of Boston). Where's everyone joining from? [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:04:48 PM EDT] Joe P : San Francisco, CA [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:04:53 PM EDT] MissShonah : Hi Kevin.This is Shonah in Paris :-) [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:04:57 PM EDT] Stephen Jones : I'm in Italy [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:05:01 PM EDT] Harman : Chandigarh, India [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:05:02 PM EDT] Koichi : San Francisco as well - who're you with Joe? [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:05:18 PM EDT] Kevin@Dimdim : very cool [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:05:24 PM EDT] Marina11 : Hello from Serbia [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:05:32 PM EDT] Leo : Leo from Los Angeles [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:05:43 PM EDT] Kevin@Dimdim : yes [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:05:57 PM EDT] Mike : mike here in sf too [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:06:03 PM EDT] Mike : lots of sf people :) [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:06:56 PM EDT] Joe P : Amazing! [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:06:57 PM EDT] Koichi : Are all the SF people here from DimDim? [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:07:00 PM EDT] shellyterrell : Hello everyone! I'm from Germany [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:07:10 PM EDT] Kevin@Dimdim : Koichi, I believe I'm the only one from Dimdim on. [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:07:21 PM EDT] Mike : i'm not from dimdim [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:07:25 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : hi Shelly, hello too from Germany [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:07:25 PM EDT] MissShonah : Hello Shelly :-) [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:07:30 PM EDT] Joe P : No, I am an independent teacher/con sultant. [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:07:35 PM EDT] Kevin@Dimdim : For those who just joined, our host Kirsten, is uploading the last slide deck. as soon as that's ready we'll start. [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:07:38 PM EDT] Koichi : I met one of your employees a couple months ago Kevin, though I think he's somewhere else now [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:07:39 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : hi Miss Shonah [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:07:41 PM EDT] annehwang : Hi, this is Anne from California [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:07:50 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : nice to see you here [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:07:50 PM EDT] Koichi : Cool, Joe, we should meet for lunch sometime [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:07:51 PM EDT] spkspanglish : Hi! I'm just outside of Chicago. [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:07:52 PM EDT] shellyterrell : Hello Heike, which part of Germany? [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:07:58 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : I love your tweets [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:08:05 PM EDT] MissShonah : Hi Heike :-)

ETCon 01 – July 27 2009 Lesson Slides and Virtual Classrooms. Do we really need them? Chat Transcript
[Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:08:06 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : Freiburg i.Br. [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:08:06 PM EDT] Koichi : Mike, you too, wherever you are [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:08:14 PM EDT] shellyterrell : Hello Miss Shonah & Spkspanglish [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:08:17 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : Koichi, where is Jon? [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:08:17 PM EDT] Koichi : (in SF) [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:08:23 PM EDT] spkspanglish : Hey there Shelly! [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:08:28 PM EDT] MissShonah : Hi Spksanglish :-) [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:08:28 PM EDT] Koichi : Jon is on an airplane, unfortunately [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:08:37 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : ah, really, will you present? [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:08:39 PM EDT] Koichi : and not Virgin, otherwise I'm sure he'd join from the air :) [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:08:43 PM EDT] Joe P : Sure thing Koichi. [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:08:46 PM EDT] spkspanglish : Hello Shonah.. Long time no chat lol [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:08:50 PM EDT] annehwang : Hi MissShonah [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:08:53 PM EDT] Koichi : yep, I'm his second string replacement [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:09:12 PM EDT] MissShonah : lol :-) Hello annehwang :-) [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:09:12 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : you are his right hand, Koichi, nice [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:09:24 PM EDT] Christine : Hi all! Should we not hear anything...is this purely via a chat function? [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:09:32 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : coming [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:09:33 PM EDT] annehwang : Hi! Great to see you here!:)) [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:09:38 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : Sound is coming soon [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:09:40 PM EDT] Giselle Santos : Greetings from Brazil everyone :)) [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:09:44 PM EDT] Koichi : haha [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:09:44 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : Kirsten is still uploading [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:09:54 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : and right now we can chat [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:09:56 PM EDT] Christine : Christine: Fine! [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:09:57 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : and say helloe [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:09:59 PM EDT] MissShonah : Hi Giselle-what an international group! [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:10:15 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : Hello to all, my name is Heike Philp and I am located in hot Germany [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:10:21 PM EDT] Koichi : Joe / Mike e-mail me koichi@edufire.com and we'll meet up for lunch, would love to meet you both, and I'll buy :) [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:10:26 PM EDT] Giselle Santos : true..the power of technology! [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:10:42 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : so where are you located everyone? [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:10:43 PM EDT] MissShonah : :-/ Amazing! [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:10:48 PM EDT] Astrid Huijs : Hello I am Astrid and located in Amsterdam [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:10:53 PM EDT] shellyterrell : Heike in my part of Germany its cool and rainy! [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:11:17 PM EDT] Elisa Delaini : hey i recognize that cover [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:11:20 PM EDT] Elisa Delaini : ;-) [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:11:20 PM EDT] Astrid Huijs : Rainy here aswell [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:11:23 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : @Shelly, really, where is this? we have 30 degrees here [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:11:35 PM EDT] shellyterrell : Stuttgart [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:11:39 PM EDT] Elisa Delaini : i am located in italy at the moment, 30 degrees, too [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:11:45 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : so, where is everybody else located? [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:11:53 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : I wonder whether people see this chat.. hehe [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:11:55 PM EDT] Giselle Santos : sunny day in Brsilia, Brazil [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:11:57 PM EDT] Stephen Jones : Where in Italy, Elisa?

ETCon 01 – July 27 2009 Lesson Slides and Virtual Classrooms. Do we really need them? Chat Transcript
[Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:11:57 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : bit hidden [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:12:08 PM EDT] Elisa Delaini : Stephen, lago di garda [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:12:10 PM EDT] annehwang : California, [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:12:14 PM EDT] Elisa Delaini : Riva del Garda [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:12:18 PM EDT] spkspanglish : Brooke - in Chicago - beautiful here today [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:12:30 PM EDT] Vitaliy Karpets : Greetings from Kyiv, Ukraine! [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:12:36 PM EDT] Stephen Jones : Nice. [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:12:40 PM EDT] Elisa Delaini : hi there Ukraine :-) [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:13:15 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : @Stephen, where are you? [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:13:44 PM EDT] Stephen Jones : Near Turin, Heike. [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:13:48 PM EDT] Elisa Delaini : disclaimer: my hair is probably 5 cm long at the moment, forget that picture ;-) [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:14:18 PM EDT] Bob GlobalEschool.com : Dallas, Texas 76F here [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:14:20 PM EDT] MissShonah : :))Funny Elisa! [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:14:35 PM EDT] Elisa Delaini : :-) hi miss shonah! [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:14:40 PM EDT] MissShonah : Hello! [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:15:32 PM EDT] Kevin@Dimdim : :-) [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:15:51 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : MissShonah, where are you located? [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:15:51 PM EDT] Stephen Jones : Thanks Koichi! [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:16:27 PM EDT] MissShonah : Paris, France - sun back out :-) [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:20:56 PM EDT] Mike : are teachers using powerpoint today? thoughts? [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:21:12 PM EDT] Stephen Jones : Absolutely yes [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:22:47 PM EDT] Giselle Santos : definitely in classrooms [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:22:59 PM EDT] spkspanglish : works well for vocab introduction [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:23:14 PM EDT] Mike : good to know.. thanks. [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:23:19 PM EDT] spkspanglish : can provide large visuals, quickly [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:23:21 PM EDT] Giselle Santos : but we have to remember no all classrooms are technologically furnished [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:23:25 PM EDT] Stephen Jones : You have to 'bounce off' the slides [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:23:25 PM EDT] annehwang : or introduce a lesson especially in grammar in the classroom [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:23:57 PM EDT] MissShonah : Very true Giselle [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:24:27 PM EDT] Giselle Santos : powerpoint is very popular insome classes because they represent a novelty [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:24:41 PM EDT] Aniya : stop chatting you lot pay attention to Frau Kirsten ;) [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:24:46 PM EDT] spkspanglish : Yes. Definitely. See it all the time in my grad classes [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:24:50 PM EDT] Koichi : haha [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:24:50 PM EDT] Chris : Quite! [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:24:58 PM EDT] MissShonah : Hi Aniya!Still listening :-) [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:25:10 PM EDT] Chris : How can students learn if they aren't listening to the teacher? [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:25:20 PM EDT] Aniya : Hi Shonah.. [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:25:26 PM EDT] Elisa Delaini : hello aniya :-) [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:25:33 PM EDT] Aniya : Hi Elisa [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:25:34 PM EDT] spkspanglish : Hello Aniya! :) [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:25:42 PM EDT] Aniya : Hello everyone... [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:26:23 PM EDT] Stephen Jones : Is language complicated? [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:26:26 PM EDT] Stephen Jones : :-) [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:26:35 PM EDT] Chris : You what? [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:26:57 PM EDT] Brad West : Good day all! [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:27:11 PM EDT] MissShonah : Hi Brad [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:27:13 PM EDT] annehwang : hi Aniya

ETCon 01 – July 27 2009 Lesson Slides and Virtual Classrooms. Do we really need them? Chat Transcript
[Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:27:29 PM EDT] Bob GlobalEschool.com : what alternative are there for PPT for teaching online ? [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:27:53 PM EDT] Koichi : PREZI [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:27:58 PM EDT] annehwang : Elmo is an alternative [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:28:17 PM EDT] Bob GlobalEschool.com : ty [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:28:26 PM EDT] MissShonah : Isn't there something you can do on Google too, now? [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:28:34 PM EDT] Chris : google docs [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:28:37 PM EDT] Elisa Delaini : yes, google docs [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:28:38 PM EDT] shellyterrell : Hello Aniya! [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:28:40 PM EDT] MissShonah : Has everyone else lost sound? [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:28:45 PM EDT] spkspanglish : no [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:28:47 PM EDT] Chris : No [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:28:48 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : still hearing fine [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:28:49 PM EDT] Giselle Santos : no [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:28:50 PM EDT] Elisa Delaini : i hear fine [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:28:52 PM EDT] Koichi : OpenOffice as well [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:28:53 PM EDT] annehwang : it's fine here [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:29:01 PM EDT] Kevin : Sound is ok here [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:29:02 PM EDT] MissShonah : Poor Kirsten has frozen... [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:29:03 PM EDT] Koichi : That happened to mee MissShonah, I left and came back and it was better [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:29:04 PM EDT] Bob GlobalEschool.com : ok here [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:29:05 PM EDT] Kevin@Dimdim : MissShonah, put your mouse over Kirsten's video window [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:29:12 PM EDT] Kevin@Dimdim : it will bring out a panel, click stop & start [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:29:12 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : @annehwang, what is Elmo? [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:29:15 PM EDT] Chris : Do you find yourselves waiting for the next slide? [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:29:17 PM EDT] Kevin@Dimdim : your computer must have lost the stream. [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:29:33 PM EDT] MissShonah : Thanks Koichi [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:29:46 PM EDT] Stephen Jones : @ Chris, yes [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:30:00 PM EDT] Aniya : Hi Anne and Shelly [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:30:08 PM EDT] Chris : Indicative of something, don't you think, Stephen? [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:30:19 PM EDT] annehwang : it's similar to the back then overhead projector, but you can put all hard copy material over it and then project it. [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:30:29 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : @aneehwang, what is Elmo? [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:30:45 PM EDT] Aniya : Shonah you need that new computer ;) [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:31:00 PM EDT] Koichi : little red guy who laughs a lot? [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:31:02 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : @ah, and you project it where? in class? [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:31:02 PM EDT] MissShonah : *giggle* don't I know it :-) [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:31:12 PM EDT] spkspanglish : @ Shonah I agree with Aniya! [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:31:16 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : lol [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:31:57 PM EDT] MissShonah : @spksanglish Oh! Me too! Oh! Apt slide from Kirsten :-)) [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:32:05 PM EDT] annehwang : @Heike it's similar to the back then overhead projector, but you can put all hard copy material over it and then project it. No need for making slides. [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:32:33 PM EDT] spkspanglish : @ Shonah - *giggle* so true :) [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:32:44 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : and what do you put on it? word documents? pdfs? [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:33:16 PM EDT] Koichi : I think so [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:34:03 PM EDT] Koichi : all physical documents though, so you have to print out [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:34:21 PM EDT] annehwang : textbooks, worksheets, etc. or with a internet

ETCon 01 – July 27 2009 Lesson Slides and Virtual Classrooms. Do we really need them? Chat Transcript
screen [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:34:51 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : ? [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:35:16 PM EDT] annehwang : @koichi, you don't have to print it out, you just put the book directly on elmo and it'll project. [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:35:22 PM EDT] Elisa Delaini : i lost her [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:35:26 PM EDT] Koichi : poor elmo [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:35:28 PM EDT] Chris : me too [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:35:28 PM EDT] Marina11 : me too [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:35:28 PM EDT] Harman : me too [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:35:29 PM EDT] Koichi : i lost her too [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:35:29 PM EDT] Astrid Huijs : me too [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:35:30 PM EDT] Elisa Delaini : all of you hear her? [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:35:32 PM EDT] Giselle Santos : ME TOO [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:35:33 PM EDT] Kevin@Dimdim : I think we lost her. [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:35:33 PM EDT] annehwang : no [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:35:34 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : ah, you put a book on it, its like a scanner [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:35:34 PM EDT] shellyterrell : i lost her too [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:35:36 PM EDT] Michelle : me too [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:35:38 PM EDT] Brad West : gone [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:35:40 PM EDT] MissShonah : me too [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:35:41 PM EDT] Kevin@Dimdim : not the meeting, just Kirsten. :-( [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:35:41 PM EDT] Elisa Delaini : kirsten, we lost you! [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:35:41 PM EDT] spkspanglish : lost her [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:35:42 PM EDT] Giselle Santos : sorry caps on [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:35:42 PM EDT] Chris : gawn - and never called me mother [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:35:43 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : we lost Kirsten [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:35:46 PM EDT] Elisa Delaini : come back :-) [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:35:46 PM EDT] Koichi : sweet! not just me and missshonah this time :) [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:35:47 PM EDT] Kevin : yeah, lost sound, video frozen for me. [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:35:47 PM EDT] MissShonah : just Kirsten [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:35:48 PM EDT] annehwang : @Heike, yes! [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:35:48 PM EDT] Bob GlobalEschool.com : me 2 [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:35:50 PM EDT] Mike : lost her too [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:35:50 PM EDT] Kevin@Dimdim : she said France Telecom was notoriously bad about it [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:35:52 PM EDT] MissShonah : :-) [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:36:09 PM EDT] annehwang : MissShonah, now you're not the only one! [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:36:10 PM EDT] Chris : How do we get her back? [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:36:12 PM EDT] Kevin@Dimdim : She's the meeting host, we'll have to wait a minute for her to rejoin [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:36:23 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : so, may I use this break and ask you all, what do you think is the alternative to slides? [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:36:39 PM EDT] Stephen Jones : Direct instruction [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:36:43 PM EDT] Koichi : that's what my presentation is all about :) [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:36:46 PM EDT] Michelle : Actually having conversations and discussions with students [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:36:57 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : ah, then I wont take it away from you Koichi [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:36:59 PM EDT] Giselle Santos : good old posters might provide the interaction sometimes [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:37:03 PM EDT] Koichi : hehe, no problem [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:37:07 PM EDT] Koichi : go for it [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:37:11 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : then we are looking forward to

ETCon 01 – July 27 2009 Lesson Slides and Virtual Classrooms. Do we really need them? Chat Transcript
your expertise [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:37:12 PM EDT] brigitte falkner : collaboration tools like in vyew [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:37:16 PM EDT] Chris : One text, one pic, one worksheet? [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:37:17 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : can I ask the audience though? [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:37:25 PM EDT] Koichi : sure :) [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:37:26 PM EDT] shellyterrell : i like poll features for getting students involved [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:37:41 PM EDT] Koichi : Polls are great, I agree [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:37:43 PM EDT] Bob GlobalEschool.com : if there was an assigned assistant could they take over the meeting now? [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:37:44 PM EDT] Michelle : Use the chat for gathering ideas [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:37:44 PM EDT] shellyterrell : i often poll throughout to see if students are awake or to get them to interact [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:37:47 PM EDT] brigitte falkner : hi Neil [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:37:53 PM EDT] MissShonah : I like a stimulus of some sort-a picture, a word... [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:38:14 PM EDT] MissShonah : @Shell-do you mean you take a poll? [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:38:15 PM EDT] Kevin@Dimdim : why not text chat -- especially if it's a younger crowd they could out-type most of us. [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:38:16 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : Kevin is here, he is from DimDim [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:38:16 PM EDT] Giselle Santos : pictures are great [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:38:23 PM EDT] Koichi : I love polls to do kind of a quick multiple choice test, then I get to see if everyone understood the previous portion, and we move on when everyone has the same answer kind of thing [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:38:24 PM EDT] shellyterrell : i also give them questions to answer in the chat box [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:38:27 PM EDT] brigitte falkner : word docs in google [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:38:29 PM EDT] Chris : Will we notice when Kirsten comes back? [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:38:30 PM EDT] brigitte falkner : to collaborate [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:38:42 PM EDT] Heike Philp LANCELOT School : Idea no. 1: polls [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:38:45 PM EDT] Koichi : I wonder if Kirsten is just continuing to talk, all alone... [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:38:48 PM EDT] shellyterrell : everyone answers and interacts with eachother [Mon 27 Jul 2009 02:38:49 PM EDT] Chris : If we don't need slides, we hardly need virtual classrooms...

Centigua: too faint!!! Panos: still very low Stephen Jones: @ Heike. Don't know if I can give you ten reasons. But with the Skype/send a document/share a document option, you have less control over what your student sees. You also can not directly write on slides but have to work around it by sending text messages. Classrooms are an absolute must in my opinion. Also, I think skype is rubbish for conferencing. Panos: cant hear you elisa Chris: Can't hear her! Centigua: TOO faint! me: low JoeP: no Centigua: too faint! Too low! MissShonah: Great to hear from teachers who have been teaching online for a while to hear pros and cons of skype... astrid: Kirsten you can put it down, cause i her Elisa in your microphone AmericanTeacher: R 1) quality - delayed reaction R 2) not all students want to download skype, some want to use MSN R 3) when using skype must be connected to computer R 4)

ETCon 01 – July 27 2009 Lesson Slides and Virtual Classrooms. Do we really need them? Chat Transcript

using skype - it mixes business together with personal use. R 5) not sure if we can actually block out other computer sounds (like MSN) new mail notification etc while using skype studen t can't hear it but teacher can be distracted E-Teachers Academy: ok E-Teachers Academy: I am off now Marina111: @Stephen - have you tried Skype+Teamviewer? astrid: now it's good i think Stephen Jones: What about videos? Can you do video comprehenssions in Skype? Panos: yes spkspanglish: yes . better astrid: Yes, i think we now only hear you MissShonah: good Panos: much better E-Teachers Academy: ok for me Marina111:hi everyone better amicamia: yes, much AmericanTeacher: Giselle! Its gr8 to see you here as well! shellyterrell: Hello better for me ! Elisa Delaini: do you hear me? Chris has joined the meeting. Koichi: everyone can for retweetvolume for yourself by mousing over her image, too, I shellyterrell: Thanks adjust her @Giselle believe Marina111: we see you! Giselle Santos: my pleasure Attendee29 has joined the meeting. Kevin@Dimdim: hi @Heike, I can see you. MissShonah: Yeh! Can see you Heike Koichi: whoops, actually I was asking where you folks are located Kevin@Dimdim: @mike, you can Elisa Delaini: at all teachers: lancelot and Myngle offer a joint scholarship for their courses Giselle Santos: great to see u too Shelly Jenny has joined the meeting. Kevin@Dimdim: true mike: @kevin through desktop share? Kevin@Dimdim: @mike, yes. We used to be able to do through web page sharing. Giselle Santos: wow a scholarship...taht's sounds great! Kevin@Dimdim: @mike but Google changed it to make that more difficult Elisa Delaini: http://www.myngle.com/blog/2009/07/13/myngle-and-lancelot-school-joint-s cholarship mike: @kevin but the only way now is thru desktop share not webpage share? Chris: Tell her what it costs! Kevin@Dimdim: @mike, yes Centigua: How does one show a YouTube video in DimDim? MissShonah: linited

ETCon 01 – July 27 2009 Lesson Slides and Virtual Classrooms. Do we really need them? Chat Transcript

Attendee29 has left the meeting. Koichi: can't have big groups AmericanTeacher: 1) quality - delayed reaction MissShonah: sorry - skype - limited AmericanTeacher: 2) not all students want to download skype, some want to use MSN Attendee31 has joined the meeting. Elisa Delaini: @ chris:what costs? astrid: the lancelot training Chris: for the scholarship AmericanTeacher: 3)when using skype must be connected to computer Giselle Santos: skype is not allowed in all countries Elisa Delaini: one scholarship, worth 900 euros value, is given for free to one teacher annehwang: is there audio on msn? MissShonah: oh!Interesting point Giselle Elisa Delaini: 9 others, worth 590 euros values, are given for 95 euros MissShonah: msn the same? Giselle Santos: true Chris: but the usual price is 900 euros? AmericanTeacher: 4 using skype - it mixes business together with personal use. MissShonah: @AmericanTeacher(D) Cna't you use skype through smart phones? AmericanTeacher: i dunno MissShonah: @D - can have more than 1 account which is what I do Elisa Delaini: yes, that is the price, for one myngle teacher is free: it includes the 10 weeks academic course and the certification Kevin@Dimdim: Thanks @Heike Elisa Delaini: eu certification Giselle Santos: nut deadline for applications was the 24 MissShonah: personal and professional me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQBJJoUpaCQ me: for lateron Centigua: I would really like to know how one shows YouTuve clips in DimDim... Elisa Delaini: for 9 others, the course of 10 weeks will cost 95 euros MissShonah: Thanks Heike Elisa Delaini: you are still welcome to participate Elisa Delaini: thanks heike! astrid: Thank you Heike Giselle Santos: thanks Heike Chris: @Elisa - I thought the deadline was reached and someone had won! Attendee31 has left the meeting. Kevin@Dimdim: @Heike, you can put your mouse over your video window and click Stop Stephen Jones has joined the meeting. Kevin@Dimdim: Elisa Delaini: some teachers had problems sending theirs Harman Singh: i think we lost her again JoeP: Does dim dim allow each presenter to advance their own slides?

ETCon 01 – July 27 2009 Lesson Slides and Virtual Classrooms. Do we really need them? Chat Transcript

AmericanTeacher: 5) not sure if we can actually block out other computer sounds (like MSN) new mail notification etc while using skype - student can't hear it but teacher can be distracted Elisa Delaini: so i am leaving some days for all who wish to participate to send them in Giselle Santos: are all countries eligible? Elisa Delaini: yes, of course ! Kevin@Dimdim: @Heike, can't promise you it will never pop up again, but that usually works until the host revokes your camera rights. Chris: Isn't it nice to see the problems professionals have in the virtual classroom? How much more dawnting must it be for a student..... Giselle Santos: great MissShonah: @D In skype you can go into tools and change these notifications me: nice me: @Chris totally agree MissShonah: @Chris too true Centigua: Stressful...for a teacher..or any professional...! annehwang: @Debby.. you mention msn, is msn good for chat only or is there audio like skype? Kevin@Dimdim: @Chris, I'd love to know what you think would help. I think that's a challenge with any real-time technology. astrid: @Crhis yes that is just what i was thinking Centigua: there is audio too and video in msn! Chris: If we can't provide a smooth meeting.... me: 10 reasons of why skype is not enough, can I ask you all this question? me: please start the chat with a big R me: for exmaple Centigua: No over over what the student is looking at!! AmericanTeacher: Anneh MSN workslike skype, many people have asked me to use MSN rather than skype - I've also had a student insist on using YAhoo - works in similar way Chris: In my experience Skype and googledocs is quite enough... me: R Skype is not always availabe, especially not in companies Centigua: disadvantage no. 1 of skype, Heike! Chris: anything else would be nice IF IT WORKED Aniya: Chris you are always moaning.. amicamia has joined the meeting. MissShonah: Hi Yas Giselle Santos: can't apply for the scholarship AmericanTeacher: Heike, do I need to go back and type my answers again? me: so, I will try my level best to convince you Chris Elisa Delaini: by the way teachers...if you have any questions on the lancelot scholarship, what is taught, etc., heike can answer any of them me: yes, sorry, missed it Elisa Delaini: no problem heike annehwang: oh.. really..I didn't know that.. gotta ask you how to get the sound on msn sometime.

ETCon 01 – July 27 2009 Lesson Slides and Virtual Classrooms. Do we really need them? Chat Transcript

Harman Singh has left the meeting. me: @American Teacher, yes pls annehwang: hi Yas! annehwang: @Debby, oh.. really..I didn't know that.. gotta ask you how to get the sound on msn sometime. astrid: @Giselle why can't you reply MissShonah: Oh!Hair is short Elisa! Chris: Could we find any reasons why skype is not enough when skype IS available? Kevin@Dimdim: @Chris, if you have specific issues with Dimdim, I'm happy to help you with them kevin@dimim.com MissShonah: yes Kevin@Dimdim: yes Marina111: yes Panos: sound is too low Marisa Constantinides: adjust sound please? astrid: your volume could go a little up JoeP: very low volume on Elisa Giselle Santos: I can't apply because am not an active membre of myngle astrid: kirsten is really loud astrid: and you are low Elisa Giselle Santos: member me: bit low... Centigua: too faint!!! Panos: still very low Stephen Jones: @ Heike. Don't know if I can give you ten reasons. But with the Skype/send a document/share a document option, you have less control over what your student sees. You also can not directly write on slides but have to work around it by sending text messages. Classrooms are an absolute must in my opinion. Also, I think skype is rubbish for conferencing. Panos: cant hear you elisa Chris: Can't hear her! Centigua: TOO faint! me: low JoeP: no Centigua: too faint! Too low! MissShonah: Great to hear from teachers who have been teaching online for a while to hear pros and cons of skype... astrid: Kirsten you can put it down, cause i her Elisa in your microphone AmericanTeacher: R 1) quality - delayed reaction R 2) not all students want to download skype, some want to use MSN R 3) when using skype must be connected to computer R 4) using skype - it mixes business together with personal use. R 5) not sure if we can actually block out other computer sounds (like MSN) new mail notification etc while using skype studen t can't hear it but teacher can be distracted E-Teachers Academy: ok E-Teachers Academy: I am off now Marina111: @Stephen - have you tried Skype+Teamviewer?

ETCon 01 – July 27 2009 Lesson Slides and Virtual Classrooms. Do we really need them? Chat Transcript

astrid: now it's good i think Stephen Jones: What about videos? Can you do video comprehenssions in Skype? Panos: yes spkspanglish: yes . better astrid: Yes, i think we now only hear you MissShonah: good Panos: much better E-Teachers Academy: ok for me Marina111: yes, much better AmericanTeacher: better for me ! Elisa Delaini: do you hear me? Koichi: everyone can adjust her volume for yourself by mousing over her image, too, I believe amicamia: hi everyone amicamia: hi from amicamia Stephen Jones: @Marina. No I haven't. Kevin@Dimdim: @Koichi, great point. thx Giselle Santos: thanks for the tip Koichi JoeP: good tip Koichi Stephen Jones: If the classroom is not working I fall back on Skype + Slideshare AmericanTeacher: Hello Yaz amicamia: hi dear Debby MissShonah: Koichi - you truly deserve your nickname Kevin @ italki: Thanks Koichi -- yeah that's great amicamia: it's clearly heard on my side amicamia: the quality is ok MissShonah: Hi Yas :-0 Marina111: Skype + http://www.teamviewer.com/index.aspx(free 1:1) Centigua: @ Heike @ Stephen yes I agree! Skype disadvantages no 1): no control over which slide student is looking at. 2) No control over the environment...student can be chatting with another skype friend 3)Teachers can be distracted by incoming contacts! 4) It can suddenly go down 5) no interactive tools. Students cannot use a pen to draw match words with definitions...and now I will listen to Elisa! MissShonah: me: by Stephen (R) more control on what the students see - nice one Stephen Jones: Another problem with Skype is copyright. amicamia: こんいちわ Koichi さん Stephen Jones: I don't like sending my materials all over the place. Koichi: 日本語 Koichi: ahh, it doesn't like my entering Koichi: こんにちは、 me: by Stephen (R) skype is limited for conferencing amicamia: はい、どおも from amicamia-yasemin Koichi: haha, everytime i confirm the word it sends the text in Giselle Santos: skype is illegal in some countries

ETCon 01 – July 27 2009 Lesson Slides and Virtual Classrooms. Do we really need them? Chat Transcript

me: konnichi wa amicamia Koichi: before I can finish the sentence, haha amicamia: hai,dear Heike Stephen Jones: But most importantly, group lessons require student focus. You can only really achieve that if you are sure students are looking at the same slides. annehwang: @Giselle,interesting.. why? Stephen Jones: With 1on1 it's easier me: by Giselle (R) Skype is illegal in some countries Centigua: too true, Stephen. Essentially the main disadvantage of skype is the lack of a controlled environment! AmericanTeacher: R - skype is a problem in some countried like China where there is an incredibly rigid firewall mike: what is the skype problem regarding copyright? MissShonah: @Giselle - in these countries what is the alternative? shellyterrell: Heike thanks I didn't know Skype was illegal in some countries Panos: Russia is discussing of banning or at least limiting its use Stephen Jones: That I have to send my materials to the student (if I am not using Slidehare or something). I can't always be sure who my students are. amicamia: skype is illegal in the United Arab Emirates for ex. Giselle Santos: elluminate was an option one of the teachers had me: @Centigua, great list have to retweet - hehe - (R) @ Heike @ Stephen yes I agree! Skype disadvantages no 1): no control over which slide student is looking at. 2) No control over the environment...student can be chatting with another skype friend 3)Teachers can be distracted by incoming contacts! 4) It can suddenly go down 5) no interactive tools. Students cannot use a pen to draw match words with definitions.. annehwang: @Stephen, interesting.. so what's the safest way to give out your materials? MissShonah: Thanks Giselle me: by Harman (R) visualization, a picture speaks a thousand words and can be annotated in a virtual classroom
Aniya: settlers for me.. Marisa Constantinides: sound's gone Shelly Terrell: Aniya loll amicamia: for me..just visitors Aniya: what u laughing at Shelly? Bob GlobalEschool.com: blended learning is what is happening now. virtual classrooms are only part of the picture. Aniya: true I agree MissShonah: Maybe people are only happy with skype as they havne't had the experience in any other platform-like a Virtual classroom Aniya: a mix of many things work.. MissShonah: This sounds too true Aniya Shelly Terrell: i have the problem that in a virtual classroom my students expect tech to work perfectly but it doesn't astrid hu: I think we know all this, but do students really want to use more tools? Aniya: Shelly ditto

ETCon 01 – July 27 2009 Lesson Slides and Virtual Classrooms. Do we really need them? Chat Transcript MissShonah: Can we warn the students in advance that this is an innovative way to teach and there may be ''hickups''?? kevin @ italki: If the sound quality is good and the tools are free (or close to free), I think it's great... Bob GlobalEschool.com: tech will never be 100% foolproof... backup is the key. right Koichi? Shelly Terrell: My students are warned but their good argument is they are paying for it Koichi C: yes! amicamia: I don't think so.my students the ones until I met now-they have only given importance on the quality of the context of the lesson and also the timing of the lesson Koichi C: always something, right? :) Aniya: yeah but I always seem to use plan B cause A doesn't work Chris aka Sir G: Could you address the questions in the middle box!!!!! Shelly Terrell: I always provide materials and record so they have materials amicamia: ok Shelly Terrell: they are happy about that but I don't know if all teachers do this brigitte falkner: some virt.classrooms are less dataconsuming than skype and therefore can be easiliy used by students with older PCs Shelly Terrell: Definitely I think teachers have to make materials available offline as well just in case tech doesn't work MissShonah: Def Shelly Kevin@Dimdim: Every platform has it's own ''unique characteristics'' -- I agree with Heike that you have to take the time to learn it. MissShonah: Great point Heike...what about those poor students that have to work with you whilst you have your training wheels on :-) Aniya: Agree Shelly, all my stuff goes via e-mail anyway so it's backed up if it can't be seen on the screen Heike Philp: muti-modality Koichi C: very cool Shelly Terrell: Those of you who provide materials via email, etc! This is why our students will bare with us if the technology is not so gr8 Bob GlobalEschool.com: I use my ''training wheels'' with staff and associates before students get to see me fumble. amicamia (privately): lovess to Heike from Yasemin-jasmine teaCher amicamia-Turkey Aniya: fumble ha ha MissShonah: Thanks Aniya and Shelly for great info for a newbie ;-) amicamia (privately): thank you -he he he Shelly Terrell: he he MissShonah! I thought you were a pro! :) Brooke Hurtado: Yes! That's what I thought, too! Aniya: she's just being modest ;) Shelly Terrell: I thought so Aniya! LOL MissShonah: See even too slow to keep up with this banter! Brooke Hurtado: You can't fool us Miss Shonah. We know better! Brooke Hurtado: lol Shelly Terrell: Brooke you tell her MissShonah: Or - now I can just blame it on my near to retirement age computer :-) LEO: VC=Venture Capitalist? Aniya: virtual classroom ;=) LEO: :) thanks Brooke Hurtado: you mean WAY past retirement computer, Shonah Aniya: welcome :)

ETCon 01 – July 27 2009 Lesson Slides and Virtual Classrooms. Do we really need them? Chat Transcript Stephen Jones: The delay is a problem but you getused to it Heike Philp: the lag? MissShonah: @Brooke! Oi!!:-) Shelly Terrell: There are several platforms where collaboration is performed online with tools like ProbSolvr, Moodle, etc. kevin @ italki: Yes -- US - US, US-EU, connectivity is very good Shelly Terrell: There are several collaboration & doc editing & meeting apps LEO: is it because this is the cross continent communication MissShonah: Great Shelly Shelly Terrell: I even collaborate on VoiceStream so I would have to disagree on point that collaboration isn't possible astrid hu: good points heike Chris aka Sir G: But why drive a beetle when you could have the mercedes? Stefan: Heike rocks! Just had to throw that in... Shelly Terrell: I've been able to collaborate with people from all over world which is not possible f2f right now kevin @ italki: I guess to use the metaphor, it's not so much the car, it's more about the road Elisa Delaini: she does :-) MissShonah: Ditto to Stefan :-) Bob GlobalEschool.com: I drive a retirement age car Shelly Terrell: currently I'm working with colleague in SecondLife so I'm not sure I get the not being able to collaborate Chris aka Sir G (privately): Would you choose to drive a beetle if you could have a mercedes? Aniya: Elisa you're stretching lol Elisa Delaini: sorry :-P astrid hu: 3 hours here Stephen Jones: Shelly, what is the sound like in Second Life? astrid hu: :) Aniya: @Shelly who's that? ;) Shelly Terrell: Fantastic depending on where your are Stephen Jones: Can you upload slides and stuff? Aniya: @stephen it lags but depends where you are Stephen Jones: Shelly Aniya: we are looking into it...think so though ;) Shelly Terrell: Yes you can & play Youtube & write on blackboard and make interactive exhibits MissShonah: Have you done lesson in there Shelly? Shelly Terrell: For ex a student can mix 2 chemicals and come up with real reaction MissShonah: SL that is.. Aniya: i think so cause they hold conferences there amicamia: thank youuuuuuu Heike dearrrrrrrr Shelly Terrell: Aniya and I teach newby teachers on SecondLife every week Shelly Terrell: We don't have too many problems & everyone enjoys it Stephen Jones: Shelly, where can I find you on Second Life? Koichi C: i gotta get in on one of your second life lessons, shelly/aniya - that sounds really interesting MissShonah: Can't wait to get in there to get into it and work with it Shelly Terrell: I will give you the ning to join MissShonah: And with you guys too :-)

ETCon 01 – July 27 2009 Lesson Slides and Virtual Classrooms. Do we really need them? Chat Transcript Aniya: give us your name in private Brooke Hurtado: What are you teaching the newbie teachers? amicamia: Get on a STARGETE and see the second life :-) Brooke Hurtado: I didn't know about this..hmmm... Koichi C: i've never used 2nd life, so i have no name there :) amicamia: STARGATE for teachers ..huh ! Shelly Terrell: SecondLife Ning for Newbie Teachers http://slifeslife.ning.com/ Brooke Hurtado: Thanks Shelly! amicamia: my God ! 2nd life has got also a websitee ? ha ha haa! Stephen Jones: Thank you Shelly amicamia: great ! isn't it Heike dear ! Bob GlobalEschool.com: I'd like to thank the panel for a great presentation and exchange today! Shelly Terrell: No problem I just showed a physics teacher the other day how to teach his rocket science class by students designing rockets w/ NASA site on SL kevin @ italki: thanks to the panel, it was really enlightening Aniya: Thank you all :) MissShonah: Agree with Bob and Kevin Shelly Terrell: Thanks everyone! Elisa Delaini: thank you all teachers :-) Marisa Constantinides: thank you all MissShonah: That was fabulous - glitches and all :-) Stephen Jones: Thanks Kirsten! Elisa Delaini: great patience to follow all LEO: great session, thanks! MissShonah: Thanks :-) Brooke Hurtado: Yes. Thank you everyone. =) Shelly Terrell: I really learned a different way to use this platform! Exciting! amicamia: tesekkurler-thanks-grazie-danke-doomo for everyone Aniya: it was really interesting, especially the discussion Panos: thank you all : ) Stephen Jones: When's the next meeting? Panos: interesting opinions! Shelly Terrell: Thank you all for not giving up & giving us another platform! amicamia: wait for the 2nd life everyone ...ha ha a MissShonah: Goodnight all Chris aka Sir G: Thanks Kirsten! amicamia: see youu! Koichi C: koichi@edufire.com - I hope to hear from some of you and get to know you all better! Marisa Constantinides: good night all Giselle Santos: Thank you Elisa Delaini: good one, Elisa Delaini: elisa@myngle.com Elisa Delaini: you are most welcome to write, anytime brigitte falkner: thanks to all of you, good night Kevin@Dimdim: kevin@dimdim.com amicamia: thanks to Kirsten for this meeting but amicamia: everyone had his/her own coffee Koichi C: everyone share your e-mails! :)

ETCon 01 – July 27 2009 Lesson Slides and Virtual Classrooms. Do we really need them? Chat Transcript astrid hu: Thank you Kirsten for hosting amicamia: next time from you,bitte! Shelly Terrell: shellyterrell@gmail.com Heike Philp: heike.philp@lancelotschool.com Stephen Jones: latidian@gmail.com brigitte falkner: is there a community where I can register in order to be informed about the next conferences amicamia: amicamia_6@hotmail.com kevin @ italki: Thanks again, kevin@italki.com -- looking forward to the improvements in the virtual classrooms too amicamia: amicamia_6@hotmail.com yeah ! Joe P 2: Joe P joe@athenalearn.com Elisa Delaini: sure, they will happen! Brooke Hurtado: brooke_hurtado@hotmail.com brigitte falkner: brigittefalkner@gmail.com Bob GlobalEschool.com: e_school2001@yahoo.com Aniya: aniya@theenglishteacheronline.com LEO: liugenping@gmail.com amicamia: 00:05 in Turkey-g'd night everyoneeeeeeeeee Welcome back from "the hall" Here are some of the reasons as to why Skype is simply not enough 1) Visualization - a picture speaks more than a thousand words and in the vc we can annotate the image (comment by Harman) 2) Better control on which slide/picture the students are looking at (comment by Centigua) 3) Skype is illegal in some countries 4) Skype does not work in many companies due to firewall restrictions, whereas Adobe and DimDim work 5) Groups can be handled better 6) Lesson slides communicate a course structure for students who want to 'see' their progress 7) Full contact rich media environment 8) Plan B (back-up plan) for VC = Skype and vice versa 9) Corporate world uses this as a webmeeting, hence need to learn 10) We are the leaders as teachers, if we don't master the technology, how will they? 11) Multi-modality 12) We are advancing from the one-to-one skype lessons and become knowledgeable in connecting students in a group lesson in a virtual classroom 13) Language teaching is text-based and slides is the landscape view of what used to be book portrait view 14) Virtual classroom will be with us a loooong time 15) In future we teachers can choose courses ourselves - HOPEFULLY! Koichi C: this side is just for asking questions, fyi Heike Philp: where is the other one??? Stephen Jones: What does the panel believe needs to be improved with the various 'classrooms' currently available? Chris aka Sir G: Nobody said anything about the TIME it takes to create slides that very often SAY practically nothing and may in fact be a distraction!

ETCon 01 – July 27 2009 Lesson Slides and Virtual Classrooms. Do we really need them? Chat Transcript Stephen Jones: Slides only really come to life with the presenter. They might look like they don't make sense but they should come to life once in the hands of the presenter Stephen Jones: Structure Stephen Jones: Students need to feel thereis direction and structure Chris aka Sir G: I agree, Stephen, but maybe the rock-star teacher only ever needs a very few slides... Stephen Jones: If you don't use slides, you have to have a very clear structure in your head. Chris aka Sir G: True! Stephen Jones: Slides are something for students to hang onto (for the student) in an ocean of tech problems kevin @ italki: Question: Sorry to ask a more technical question -- but I guess one of the main issues I wonder about is internet connectivity. Who carries the bandwidth for Virtual Classrooms? One fo the benefits of Skype is that it is carried on P2P traffic. Virtual Classrooms are great, but it needs someone to carry (and pay for) that traffic. (sorry this was so long) Elisa Delaini: learning path Elisa Delaini: there is a direction Elisa Delaini: of course, it is ALWAYS a choice Chris aka Sir G: Many potential students are unaware of the existence of virtual classrooms. The question is: Should we enlighten them? As long as virtual classrooms are so unreliable, isn't it safer to ''play it safe'' on skype? Heike Philp: great question Koichi C: i'd say it's pretty reliable? Koichi C: as long as internet connection is good Chris aka Sir G: Not what we've experienced tonight! Koichi C: that's a big if sometimes though :) Stephen Jones: I agree with Koichi Elisa Delaini: i think for the state of the technology, it is most of the times reliable Elisa Delaini: but when it is not Elisa Delaini: it is very demotivatinhg Chris aka Sir G: ...for the teacher and the student! Elisa Delaini: so i understand the teacher's concern Elisa Delaini: yes, for both Elisa Delaini: good thing about IT: they say it is constantly evolving ;-) Chris aka Sir G: things can only get better? Elisa Delaini: yes, and they will. Aniya: So what is your favourite virtual classroom? Stephen Jones: Englishtown Aniya: which one is that? amicamia: yeah..teachers-we also introduce our student the technology Stephen Jones: My favourite...:-) Aniya: ha ha Stephen Jones: But not my favourite website! Aniya: can't have all.. Elisa Delaini: :-) i think we can wrap up Koichi C: haha yes, all my work is piling up, thanks to all of you! ;)