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ْ ُ ل ب ْع In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful, All Praise be to Allah, Creator and Sustainer of this Universe. And May His Peace and Blessings be to His Messenger Mohammad and his family and Companions, Afterwards, Here is the fourth list of Questions and Dialog which I had with Non Muslims on threads of TOPIX. i.e www.topix.com . Three lists have already been published on www.scribd.com and could be reviewed as per address given below: 1. http://www.scribd.com/doc/13103050/Dialogs-With-Non-Muslims-Vol-1 2. http://www.scribd.com/doc/13262933/Dialog-With-Non-Muslims-Vol2 3. http://www.scribd.com/doc/15492127/Dealogs-With-Non-Muslims-Vol-3 As usual, full questions have not been reproduced to save space on this presentation. The current edition consists of around 333 questions, the subjects and questions have been as varied as in earlier lists. One point of caution, the answers given are my own and confined to my limited knowledge. These may not be authentic position of Islam or Renowned Muslim Scholars, but what an average and common Muslim feels generally on these issues. If some one wants to quote these answers as “Official Islamic stand” he or she must get these endorsed or verified by any Learned Islamic Scholar. The questions have been divided into ten chapters and an Alphabetical list of Questions is given in appendix. I seek forgiveness of Allah if I have made some mistakes in my answers, it was not my intention to hide or misrepresent Islamic stand on any issue. I have been subjected to many abuses by writers on these threads and ridiculed. These are small prices to pay for giving Islamic position on the issues facing the world today. If any one gets any benefit from these questions and answers, I request them to pray for me that Allah may guide me to true path and I may be able to put into practice, what I have written as Islamic stand . At the same time, I seek the forgiveness of Allah and from readers if some of my answers hurt their feeling or sentiments. It was not my intention at any time while writing down or posting these answers M.U. Qidwai Jubail, Saudi Arabia. . 8th August 2009.
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Table of Content
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Atheism Christianity Evolution Hinduism Homosexuality Islam-1 Islam-2 Israel & Palestine Misc. Religion Terrorism &
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Chapter-1 Atheism, Q-1 Belief, Own Experience, Do we only believe in what we see or know
Ans. If you only believe in what you saw or you were present there, then let me tell you, 99.99 % of your knowledge about the world and its affairs is based on “hearsay” and not from your personal verification. You do not KNOW, who are your real parents. You do not KNOW , if Alexander the Great existed or not. You do not KNOW if most of laws of Physics etc are correct, you only read them and very few you verified yourself. You do not KNOW, if man landed on moon, what you SAW on TV could be an imitation. You do not KNOW if WW-1 or 2 really happened. If Atom Bomb was ever dropped on Japan.
There could be millions such examples. If you only believe in things that you were present at the site, then your world is full of ignorance. In this age, we believe more on sayings of others than any other time in human history.
Q-2 Common Sense, Creator, What is Common Sense and what is not?
Ans. Some one wrote on this thread that there is nothing like Common Sense, otherwise most people would have it. Let me say, that he is wrong and there indeed is Common Sense and most people do have it. What is Common Sense? It is something which most people recognize as true and correct and do not need any arguments to prove it. That speaking truth is good, we should not cheat, we should not rob, we should not kill innocent people, we should honor our parents and elders, bravery, honesty…..all these are desirable qualities, and most people do believe in it.
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Telling lies, cheating, being miser, killing innocent people , are bad qualities and most people do recognize it. That one plus one equals two is also common sense and nobody needs big arguments about it (Though mathematicians have a hard time proving it!!). People want to trim their nails, moustaches, and take regular baths and personal hygiene is also common sense, even though we find some weird people who trimmed their nails, or cut their moustaches and do not bath… People feel a need to be governed , they have inherent respect for laws and try to avoid dangers to their lives and property is also part of common sense, even though you find some exceptions to these rules. That every thing needs a creator is also common sense and do not need much proof, there are many such examples. The problem comes only when some people want to impose their own thoughts and conviction which are weird and against common sense and then try to pass it off as Common Sense….some examples in this category are: That there is no Creator of this Universe and the whole Universe just came by chance…and of course that This so called Blind Theory of Evolution is true That Homosexuality and Heterosexuality are same thing and both should be treated as equals and given same rights. That there is no purpose of our human lives, we are born and we die without any one calling us to account for what we did… There are many such examples in this class also, and these are the issues which are not readily accepted by common people, despite propaganda, deceitful methods and by wrapping falsehood over bits of truth… For such people there is no Common Sense at all….because whatever they say, Common sense rejects it.
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Q-3 Creator, Creation, Why Creator is not part of his Creation?
Ans. Re: Creator Vs. Creation & Car Analogy It seems my Car Analogy had created lot of interest and anxiety in Learned circles. As usual they left the main point and trying to catch me on verbal ground. The principle is that Creator is separate from Creation. The World of cars is different from the World of its designer. The cars have no choice in the way, their designer want to meddle with them. If designer persists with carburetor or uses fuel Injections, the cars have no choice. In the same way, if car designer uses four or five gears, Manual or Automatic Transmission or millions of options in internal or external design, the cars have no choice of their own. No part of car designer is present in the car. The analogy of Car designer is very imperfect as compared to the Creator of this Universe. Living in the Universe you cannot perceive the Personality and Power of the Creator (Same as from World of Car, you cannot perceive any thing about car designer). But the lesson learned are same: 1. Creator or none of Him, is part of His Creation, that is this Universe and every thing in it. 2. The Creator has full right and power to change, modify or meddle in His Creations, that is Universe and every thing in it. 3. None of the Creations have any power or means to stop the Creator from carrying out His will, in any way, He wants to deal with it. 4. To perceive the Creator, one has to gat out of his world and become a part of World of Creator, i.e. Only when you are out of this Universe, you have any chance to see the Creator at His works. That unfortunately is not possible to humans, because they cannot get out of this Universe, however they try. 5. As the power and abilities of a Car Designer can be deduced from the beauty and performance of his Cars, in the same way, the Power
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and majesty and Wisdom of Creator can be deduced by observing the grandeur, beauty and intricate details of each and every part of this Universe. 6. That is where Science should help one in understanding the Power, Wisdom and Mercy of Creator of this Universe, they are instead busy in getting evidence to prove that there is No Creator and there is no design and there is no plan in Universe and every thing in it. 7. That is the biggest misuse of Science and the reasoning and deducing power of Brain, which Creator has given to humans.
Q-4 Creator, Creations, Do same rules apply to both?
Ans. Creator Vs Creations: The rules that apply to Creations do not apply to Creator. This is so obvious, that I feel amazed when most of our So called Super Brains fail to realize this and insist that Creator Must also has to be Created. That is the Basic Flaw of all those who are Blind Followers of BTOE. The Creator is free from all Materialistic Laws, because He is not Material. He is free from Beginning and End because He has created Life and Death. The problem with most people is that they have their own concept of Creator borrowed from their own society. They may claim that they are atheist and do not believe in any religion or God, but at the back of their mind they have a mental picture of Creator from their parents, society and from their Childhood. That is why they either have a mental image of God in some Stone shape, or Loving Father having Begotten a Son and such things. They have interpreted the Biblical or other Scripture verses literally, when it comes to the Creator and that is which is causing this mental block to believe in existence of a Powerful and Knowledgeable Creator. The First and the Last, Living and self sustaining Creator....
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This Universe would have given them ample examples of His presence and power....but they closed their eyes and have become virtual blind... What else could one expect, for those from those who follow something as illogical as this so called Blind Theory of Evolution.
Q-5 Creator, Crutches, Do believers need crutches?
Ans. The same Creator created human and mammals, so what is a big deal if they have similar or matching parts. Do not car designers design cars for different usage, some is sedan, some is pickup, some is omnibus and some is heavy duty trucks. They share common parts and design concept. Will then we say that sedans evolved into pickups or pickup evolved into omnibus or omni bus evolved into trucks? The commonalty of parts and systems is no sign that they created themselves or just evolved blindly from each other. To believe in God is not to depend on crutches, but to stand on most solid grounds and enjoy the beauty of Creator and Marvel at His Power, Wisdom and Mercy. Those who deny Creator are indeed standing on a shifty sand, are unable to explain million and a one factors that had to be fulfilled before any thing could have happened. They have no recourse but to believe in Chance or Random Happening or Favorable Condition. These are people who use crutches all the time.
Q-6 Creator Doubts, Some Doubts abut Creator
IT: “ So why did the creator create famines, droughts, earthquakes, plagues, small pox, polio, malaria, cancers?” MUQ: I cannot speak on behalf of Creator…. But I assume it was to tell how precious is life and how powerless is human confronting with nature. IT: “Why until modern medicine did one in a hundred births lead to the death of the mother and child?”
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MUQ: Did human race became extinct before the advent of Modern Medicine? Did people not reached ripe old age before the advent of Modern Medicine? Does no child dies at birth in any Modern Western Country despite having all Modern Medicines to help them? Why people die, young, old, child still in West despite so much Modern Medicine available IT: “Why is the eye wired back to front in people but not in squid?” MUQ: May be the defect would be removed in further evolution or may be Squid and Humans did not had common ancestors!! IT: “And why should I ignore science for the word of just one man?” MUQ: Who asked you to ignore science? I only asked you to place science where it belongs. Let it not encroach on areas which are outside its purview. Would you take an Engineer’s advice for a Medical Problem? Or would you consult a Medical Doctor for some Legal Problem? Science and religion should and must co-exist and that was during the hey day of Islamic Civilization. Western people have always been extremists. When they believed in religion, they totally discarded the science. Now they have started believing is Science and are totally rejecting religion. Moderation and balanced approach is what is required for healthy development of body and soul.
Q-7 Creator, Dualism, Does God permit rape, murder etc?
Ans. Let me comment on two points of your last few posts A. Creator and His Attributes: First let me clarify one misunderstanding, I said that we do not know or say, anything about Creator except what He said Himself about Him. We Understand that the word used are to explain to humans, we do not have any idea how Creator Hears, or Sees, but Certainly he does not do as we humans see or hear. Therefore we do not try to
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concentrate on any thing that is concerned with His personality of Attributes. The Creator has encouraged us to ponder and analyze His Creations and then find for ourselves the Power, Majesty, Wisdom and Mercy of the Creator. Our increase in material knowledge should have helped us in this task, but unfortunately , most of humans use these findings to discredit the existence of Creator itself. Like the followers of this BTOE… B. Monotheist VS Dualists: Now coming to your second observation that Creator must permit misdeeds of humans, like rape, murder, genocide etc…. This is a point on which most people shudder to confirm …. But actually it is true. If Humans were to be put to test as to how they would live their lives, they would have to have some freedom to choose which path to take. So the Creator usually does not interfere in the actions of humans, even though they may wrong each other. But none of these actions go unrecorded. Perfect account of every man’s action is being kept and would be presented on the Day of Judgment. The party who was wronged on this world would be compensated in the next world and the wrong doers would have to pay the penalty. So if some one has done some wrongs and gone Scott Free (due to his position, manipulation and any other reason), he would be held guilty in the next world. So in a way you are right that Creator permits these injustices and wrongs being done in this world, but nothing is outside His Records and Justice. Not only that, bacteria, virus, blindness, earthquakes, tornadoes, birth defects and other disease…..did Creator made all these. These all are part of His grand plan. Some to test humans, others to show them His powers and some for instilling fear and repentance etc…
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Those who promote Dualism, fall into more errors than those who are Monotheist. Dualists have to account as to who is more powerful and how can there be two Absolute Authorities in this Universe? Who has Created every thing in this Universe? And how come another power interfere into the domain of Creator?\ Satan or Devil also acts on permission of God… But he has much limited power only to whisper bad ideas and evil suggestions to humans. He cannot force any one, so the choice to do good or bad rests in humans themselves and they would be judged as to what choice they made. And in the end it is not true that every philosophy which seems reasonable or logical be necessarily true also. For any theory to be True, we need Confirmation from Revelation or Our own Certain knowledge.
Q-8 Creator, Endless Universe, Anything to stick to!
Ans. So now we are having to go to at “endless Universes” theory just to deny the Creator. To ask proof or evidence of such theory would be too much to ask. The basic rule of thumb for these people is that "If we do not see Maker or Creator for any thing, then it must have created itself or it would have come by itself or just by chance". Why do they not apply the same rule when they see any painting or drawing in ancient caves and first they should say that these came about by themselves without any painter. People would go to any length to justify the false idea which has been fixed into their brains. No my logic is not “If it is complicated it must be created”. My logic is that “Every thing needs a creator and Universe and life forms are not exempt from it” The complexity of life forms and things we see in Universe only strengthens our logic, since by typing randomly on keyboard, it is possible to get word like “At”, “Is” “No” etc…(it may interest to know that possibility of getting a simple word like "It, Is or No" are 1 in 6 Millions!!) .but almost impossible to get a Shakespeare drama.
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So the complexity of life form and creation is not the base for existence of Creator but a supporting argument. Then to say that TOE (or Rather BTOE) is dealing with only evolution of life on this earth and not the origin of Universe, is misleading one. It is not possible that Universe could have a Creator and the Life forms on this earth would have come into being and evolved without the help or support from the Creator.
Q-9 Creator Evidence, Fruit Kingdom?
Ans. Last night I cut open a water melon and I was struck with its beauty!!. The light pink pulp arranged so beautifully with outer white ring, topped by the thick green outer shell. Black seeds arranged so beautifully to give contrast. That is the work of a real artist, one who is perfectionist to the extreme. How this colorful scheme could come about? did the plant itself thought and designed it? Have plants sense of beauty, color and aesthetics? What the color scheme inside the fruit has to do with its survival or propagation? Do animals who eat it have a head for color scheme? Who are the animals that eat watermelon with relish? Why would they be attracted to that color scheme? It made me think, that it is the Creator, who is providing fruits to us in most varying and beautiful shapes, color schemes and tastes. Look at a table laden with different fruits, how beautiful they look when they are ripe for eating and how ordinary they look when they are not ripe. Color scheme, smell, shape and taste of each fruit is different. Then some fruits appear in summer season and some in winter season, so that is every season, some fruits are available.
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They do not need any pre-preparation, just wash them with water and enjoy the feast. What is our contribution in creating these fruits? Just plant the seed / stone and water it from time to time. Is it enough to say that we created these fruits and we know how to grow them? Can we indeed "grow" any plant ourselves? How could it have happened by Blind Random Mutation and Blind Natural Selection? And those knowledgeable, reasonable and intelligent people ask, show me where is the Creator? Perhaps they have not looked at a laden fruit basket!! Sometimes more knowledge becomes a stumbling block to appreciate free gifts of Creator.
Q-10 Creator Existence, Are scientists against Creator?
A. What is the source of Morality? 1. The ultimate source of Morality is the feeling of accountability to one’s action before a Higher Authority. 2. If there is no sense of accountability, then there is no real base for morality. 3. What so called morality we see in these atheists is only skin deep. Can they explain why should one follow a moral code at all? If the life has no purpose and once we die, it is end of every thing , why should we follow any moral code at all. 4. So the morality of the atheists has only a material thing. We should be good so others may also be good to us. We should not cheat so others will not cheat us. Why cheating is bad they have no answer for it. The same goes for every thing. 5. Then they have given examples from life of some Muslims and trying to prove that this is what Islam teaches. What Islam teaches and what Muslims do are two different things. I am only defending Islamic teachings and not the acts of any single or group of Muslim.
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B. No Scientist CONFIRMED that there is No Creator. 1. Then they have made claim that no scientist has confirmed that there is no Creator. That is what I said that no true Scientist will say that there is no Creator. Only Pseudo Scientists would say that there is no Creator. 2. If any one has even made a casual glance over the posts on this thread, he will find that almost every one has confirmed that there is no Creator. They have likened to a Flying Spaghetti Monster. There are hundreds and thousands of posts on this threat CONFIRMING that there no Creator. 3. So most persons on this thread are Pseudo Scientist!! QED C. Finding DEFECTS in Creator’s design: 1. This is another past time of these Pseudo Scientists to find their own versions of fault in Creator’s design and try to prove that He would be a stupid or ill suited person for this job. 2. The beauty is that these so called Pseudo Scientists are not even able to create a Single Housefly themselves, but when it comes to find defects in the Creator’s design, they come up with a ten page list!! 3. Can any one see the irrationality of this approach? Any one who has a right to criticize any designer should be at least familiar with creation process, design and has some thing to his credit. 4. Reality is that once you start believing in BTOE (With Random Mutations and Natural Selection as two basic blocks), every thing will look to you full of defects. Any thing which is made by Random Process has to be full of defects, so it is not the fault of Creator or Designer but their eyes and their limited visions. 5. It is like some one takes an apple and is wonderstruck by its beauty, its smell and its taste and praises God for making such a wonderful fruit…..at the same time our Pseudo Scientist Expert appear and start criticizing a. What an absurd shape this apple has? It is neither round, nor square, nor any of geometrical shape. The Creator must be ignorant of geometrical shape.
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b. And what an absurd color scheme this apple has. It is not full green or full red or full orange. It seems that Creator did not know what are basic colors. c. And why the seeds are kept hidden so down in the pulp, it is sheer bad design, the seeds should be on the front skin so they can disperse easily. Can any one guess what is the real place for this Expert? A lab or mental Asylum? Any one criticizing design of Creator should get the similar treatment.
Q-11 Creator Existence, Looking in the Mirror Test
Ans. It is so fashionable now a day for “Semi Learned” people and those with “Little knowledge” about modern science to negate the presence and power of their Creator. For such people the following test is very useful Looking in the Mirror Test: When some one is in that “High and Creator denying” mood and feel he or she is above and over what they really are, a little introinspection and looking into a mirror test is very useful cure to bring oneself back to this earth.. Such people should take a mirror and sincerely look into it for half an hour minimum and reflect into their own life and think how much real choices they have or had in their lives How powerless they are against the thing they call nature. Did they have any choice in the manner of their own birth? Did they knew when they were conceived? Did they knew that they would be born complete? Did they knew which of their limbs and faculties would be fine and which would be deficient? Once they were born how powerless they were in the hands of their parents? Why would their parents love them and take all those cares and pains for their upbringing? Who put that faculty of parental love in the bosom of their parents? Did it also evolve thru Random Mutations and Natural Selection?
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Once they grew up and their bodies were fully developed, did they ever reflect how much control they have on their own life functions? The glass of water they drink, are they sure that it would exit thru their bodies as urine? If only that water is trapped inside their bodies, it would foul up the whole system and they would surely die. Why that system and other systems like digestive, respiration, blood circulation works so reliably for so many years. Why any human designed and manufactured machine does not work to that perfection? Even a slight imbalance in the drop of balancing fluid located in ears would make a perfectly strong individual incapable of even walking. Now we have heard of the immune system in our bodies, do we really know how many battles go on in our bodies every day? Is it not a miracle that we stay healthy most of our lives? We have seen what happens when immune system collapses in any one, how they die from something as common cold? What part of immune system we designed ourselves? It is working even when we are aware of it or not. The medicines about which we take so much credit, from where the ingredients come? Are they not available in nature itself? Our bodies are full of lessons for us and shows how puny and powerless are we really. How dependent are we on our Creator and how puny are our faculties compared with Universe. What is said about individual is also true for entire nations and entire human civilization. The Tornados, Earthquakes, Floods, all give us warning about our helpless ness. A meteoric strike would kill most of humanity on this earth in a flash and we will be unable to prevent it. And what more, in this vast universe, it would not be any significant event at all. These are the issues towards which authors like Dr. Adel, Mr. Haroon Yahya and other Islamic scholars draw our attention. But we scoff at these arguments and think they are very “Weak and sentimental”. A sincere look at mirror might cure some of our haughtiness. Why not try it?
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Q-12 Creator , How would I react if I was God?
D. That Why Creator, who is not materials, should meddle in our affairs; This was another googlie bowled at me, It means that Creator must be Material before he can meddle in our affairs. It means that Creator and Creations have to be same. Would you use that logic for other things that “we” have created on this earth? Would a Car designer has to be a Car, before he can modify or change the Car design? Or a Software Programmer would have to become a Software Himself before modifying or meddling in it? E. That why I do not use my God given brains to verify this BTOE? To use the Word God on this thread is Anathema. The whole purpose of this thread is to deny the existence and presence of God. How can I use the God given brain to prove that there is No God? This seems like one of those trinity type reasoning. F. What would I have done, if I was the Creator? That was by far the best and most interesting question, how would I have reacted if I was God, now let me see: 1. As God, I created Billions upon Billion of stars, Galaxies, set every thing in Universe in proper order and sequence, I selected their motions and orbits and billions of other things needed for it to function and stabilize.. 2.. Then in a tiny part of this Universe, I fine tuned Millions upon Millions of small details and conditions that would sustain life form. 3. Then I created all types of Plant and Animals and everything that could sustain and maintain human life.
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4. After I had done all this, I created humans in the best possible shape and gave him powers of Intelligence and deduction which I gave to no other of my billions and billions of other Creations. 5. To this man , I gave dominion over every thing on this planet. Despite not being of very strong stature, not having best of physical strength, he can control the mightiest animals on this earth, just by using his brain power. 6. After making all provisions that can sustain and make possible his survival on this earth, I send the man on this earth. 6A. In lieu of all that powers and favors, that I gave the man, I made his life a test, to see how would he will use his powers and dominion given to him. 7. Not only that, to make his life and decision making easy, I sent Guidance to him thru my Messengers and Books, so that he can be easily guided. 8. Despite all the care, love and patience that I took for humans, he has used his brain and reasoning power to prove that I do not even exist. 8A. He ridicules my messengers, makes fun of my books and scoffs at the guidance which I had provided. 9. How should or would I deal with such an ungrateful brat is not difficult to guess. Is there any other reasonable man or woman on this thread, who would suggest any other way as to judge and deal with this ungrateful creature of mine, who is called Human.?
Q-13 Creator, Nails and Hairs, What revealed books have to say on these?
Ans. Revealed Books have more important issues to discuss than these "Mental pleasures". How many millennia it took for Facial hairs to grow in males? I would be stupid if I ask you any proof for it.
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If humans have no facial hairs, what will happen to Gillette & Co? May be our ancestors had this genetic mutations to help Gillette & Co ? Every thing and any thing is possible in your world of BTOE! Another Random Twist in the plot!
Q-14 Creator Proof, How to know Him?
Ans. I thank you for efforts on replying to different sections of my post. I would respond to important points raised by you. A. Proof for any theory: I am happy that you have provided details on this subject. Perhaps I should have said that theories which are not directly related with the Physical world. Subjects which are related to the Physical World (Like Laws of Motion, Laws of Gravity) etc need to be proven by Physical evidences and experiments. Subjects which are not related to the Physical world, like spiritual matters, cannot be proved by Physical evidences or experiments. For these we need proof which are coming from other sources. Revelation is the best source to prove such theories. B. Authority of Philosophers in Spiritual Matters: The approach of philosophers on these theories is purely mental. They try to formulate theories only on their individual thoughts and reasoning. But those theories could be right or could be wrong. That is why you see each Philosopher having his own theory, it is very seldom that theories of two philosophers would be alike. Philosophers are therefore the most unreliable source to prove any theory that is outside the realm of Physical world. C. If Creator exists outside Human realm, how do we know about Him and His attributes:
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That is a very good question and very relevant too. There is the basic issue of purpose of Human lives. As per religions, the purpose of human life is to live his life as per instructions of his Creator. Since humans have no means to know the personality, attributes, likes and dislikes of his Creator, he would be really groping in dark, if there was no Divine guidance. That is why, Creator Himself has sent this information thru His chosen servants (prophets). These prophets receive guidance from the Creator and teach to their fellow human beings. If humans try to know or decide by themselves these issues, there is very strong chances that they will fall into error (as evident from each philosopher having his own theory), that is why we should depend on the revealed guidance. D. How do we KNOW that what is written in our book is true? That also is very good question and also very relevant. While there are so many revealed books and followers of each trying to claim that only their book is true, it is really a daunting task to prove which book to believe. But it is not very difficult to find out, which of the book is true, there is internal evidence and there is external evidence. 1. Internal Evidence: a. We should ask the books themselves, what they claim about themselves? If you read so called scriptures, you will find that most of them do not even claim that they are revelation from Creator. b. Second evidence is about the Universality of message. Do these books themselves claim Universality or it is their followers who claim that for them? c. The third evidence is the message contained in those books. People should use their reasoning and logical powers to verify if the message is logical and reasonable. 2. External Evidence:
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a. We should check how authentic is the book and how accurate is its link to its originator. b. How it is preserved throughout the history and what are the chances and evidences of its corruption and interpolation by unknown hands. c. What effect it has on its recipients thru out the history. These are some of the tests which would prove to one whether the book and the message it contains is true or false. Let me remind you that the results are highly subjective and we have evidences thru out history on both extremes 1. During the time of prophet, there were people like ABU BAKR, UMAR , ALI OTHMAN etc who believed that the message is true. They became Muslims, while at the same time there were people like ABU LAHAB, ABU JAHL, IBN UBAII etc who deemed it a forgery and they remained unbelievers. 2. In our own times, there are many Hindus, Jews and Christians who are convinced of the truth and become Muslim, while on the other hand we have HE Dr. ZAHID, Expert on Islam and other religion, who after being Muslim, got convinced that it was all a forgery and came out of it. Another case of ABU LAHAB & ABU JAHL during our time. In the end it is a subjective answer and based on that your future is based. The choice is open before you.
Q-15 Creator Proof, Did you ever look at sky?
I don’t know when any of you have had a reason to look at sky and enjoy its beauty. Our life styles are so busy and glare of city street lights is so much that even if we look towards sky, we do not see many stars and even those that we see, look very dim. Try looking towards sky, when you are away from city limits and there is no back ground light.
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For countries like India, the possibility of this happening is quite high, as we have so many scheduled and unscheduled power cuts in our cities. It was during that instant, when the lights went out and I looked towards sky, the scene really amazed me, that there were so many stars and that they were so bright, I had not noticed. When sky looked so beautiful and so alive thru naked eyes, how would it look when seen thru the lenses of Most Powerful Telescopes? But my thoughts turned to other matters. What are the distances that these starts are located away from us? How bright might be the stars whose lights reach to us? Do all stars emit lights or some of them do not emit light so that they are invisible to us? How come so many stars and group of stars seem to move in a group or set patterns, that they can be used for navigation? What precise calculations are needed to make this possible? How come these stars are visible thru naked eyes, so that people of all ages could find directions by looking at them? Then why does moon has phases, why it was not possible for moon to shine with same phase every night. Why this perpetual and accurate calendar was hung in sky, so people of all ages could use it for marking days and months? Then my mind turned towards how many mistakes and errors have creeped into Solar Calendar (Which was designed by humans). How many months have been removed from Solar Calendars in past few centuries? Could this complex motion of sun, moon, planets and stars would have come by itself as a result of a Mighty Blind Big Bang a few Billion Years back? Is it possible for any Blind Bang to bring any order in Universe? Then they ask us, show us Creator, have they not looked at sky during total black out!!! Why so reasonable and logical persons should act so dumb in these matters? Is knowledge acting as a barrier to shield them from their Creator?
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Q-16 Creator Proof, Look at Flowers
Ans. Have you ever looked carefully at a rose? The beauty and softness of its petals, the tantalizing smell…the very shape of its leaves….does it not look the work of an artist and a perfectionists? Then look at so many flowers, in all shades of colors in all designs we find them….a flower bouquet is most beautiful to look at and smell it. Then some one says that all this is to attract insects and flies to come and suck the nectar and help pollination….I agree that this is one of the purpose…but is it the only purpose? How would be human lives without the colorful presence of all these flowers? Would it not be lacking something for those who have refined tastes? Do insects really appreciate these beautiful color schemes? Why every flower evaluated its own color scheme, why cant they just copy each other? Why should they need to attract a particular types of insects? Who evaluated first? Insects or Flowers? What is human contribution in giving colors to these flowers? Just plant a seed or a branch and water it. Is that enough to say that we created these plants? Then what is amazing that same earth elements, same water and same sunshine is required for fruits, flowers, corns and all other species of Plant Kingdom. How could it all have happened by itself… without any plan, design …..Just by Blind Random Mutations and Natural Selection….How nature selects color Schemes? Yet they ask us, show me the Creator….Have they not looked at bunch of flowers?
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Q-17 Creator Proof, Look at Milk
Ans. I think most of you have drunk Milk at some time or another. Has anyone reflected as to how it comes about? Why milk is produced in mammals? If you ask experts, they would say, it is produced to feed their off springs. Is that the whole reason? If that was the reason then these animals would produce only quantity that is sufficient for their off springs. How come they produce so much milk that it feeds so many humans and so little is needed for their off springs? Why these animals evolved to produce so much milk, that would be used by another specie? Did they and humans evolved together? Do these mammals depend on humans for their survival? Then why the milk produced by one specie should be healthy food for another specie? What is milk and how it is produced. Did milk also evolved thru the same process of Random Mutation and Natural Selection? Yet these people ask us to show them the Creator, have they not looked at a glass of fresh milk? What was our real contribution in producing that glass of Milk. Ungrateful and Boastful Brats!!
Q-18 Creator, Is science against religion?
Ans. I thank you for your honest post. I am not against Science and Scientific methods. But I say that Science’s scope is limited to material world and it should not go out of its bound. It should remain strictly neutral in debates about Creator or religion which are not based on material experiments. In their arrogances some over zealot scientists want to encroach on other areas and write on these subjects as if they are authority, whereas they have none.
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The existence of God and Creator is based on reason logic and is not at all against science. That is why many of the most imminent of scientists of past had religious outlook. In our days the world, God, Religion and Creator have become a sort of Anathema, they are only used in tones of contempt. That is due to materialistic outlook of world and every thing in it. What you said about USA and what is should do and should not do, I appreciate. I just quoted from John Perkins to highlight some of the down sides of this thing we call Globalization. In this many of the poor countries are deliberately exploited by many of MNC as they are known today. You have good intentions but the people who control the Government and Industry in US do not think so.
Q-19 Creator, Why Quran does not give scientific proofs?
Ans. Thanks for commenting on my recent post. The writers fail to realize that Quran is not the book of science and that is not its main topic. Its topic is the guidance of human kind and ways to live their lives in accordance with the divine guidance. This guidance is for all times and for all ages. The writers fail to realize the status of science at the time of revelation and how many turns and twists it has taken in 1400 years. That is what Quran does not speak in the language of science of 21 st century, because no one could have understood it at that time. The language of science which we are speaking today, might seem like childish to a scientist of 25th century. That is why Quran talks with the Basic facts and which are true and would not change at any time irrespective of whatever stage of development the science is. These are the facts which have never been proven wrong by Modern Science of Today, Science of Yesterday and Science of Tomorrow.
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And these basic facts are: 1. There is only one Creator in this Universe and He has Created every thing in this Universe. 2. That this Universe had a beginning and shall have an end. 3. That this Universe is not Created without a purpose, every thing here has a purpose and is accountable to its Creator. 4. Humans have a special purpose in the scheme of this Creation, he has to be accountable for his actions. These are the basic truths which Quran points out very clearly and in very unambiguous terms. I do not know if any of these have been proven wrong by any experiments of Modern or ancient or any future scientific experiments. The Blind theory of Evolution, that tries to imply that life originated by chance, by coincidence or by happy circumstances has not been proved and will never been proved because it is basically faulty. These points would be discussed in the subsequent posts based on the arguments of Mr. Yahya. In fact Quran wants to save the fruitless efforts of scientists to prove that there is no Creator or that this Universe came about by itself. Slowly and Slowly Science is coming to this irrefutable Universal truth.
Q-20 Evolution, Why most concepts are absurd?
Ans. I have received some curious responses to my last post on Creator Vs. Creations. I Pick up some important points form them to reply and leave the rest. I do not want to name the correspondents because others may make fun of them. A. That I find Judeo / Christian concept absurd and stick to my own Blind Cultural concept of Creator:
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Judeo / Christian or any other concept of Creator which is based on Anthropological view point, cannot stand up to the reasonable scrutiny of reason or science. Gods and goddesses having wives and children and behaving like everyday humans would look absurd to any one who has any knowledge about the size, working and complexity of this universe. Others taking Sun, Moon or Stars as gods or believe in innumerable gods would not be able to explain the seamless working of our known universe. So I do not ridicule this concept of God only for the sake of making fun, but because it does not make any sense and does not fit with the size, majesty and complexity of the known universe. B. That my concept of Creator looks Silly just as Judeo / Christians : If our Concept of an All Powerful, All Knowledgeable and All merciful Creator looks silly to any one, then let he or she present their own concept and look which is more silly. We do not say anything about our Creator ourselves, we do not make any image of Him. Any thing that concerns His personality we do not try to explain, as it is beyond our understanding. If such an Ever Living, Ever Present concept of Creator looks silly to any one, then he or she does not know what is the definition of ‘silly’. C. That Theory of Evolution is Not Blind, but I reject it blindly. Let us see, what are the implications of believing in BTOE 1. The Blind Theory of Evolution believes that there is no Plan, No Design and No Creator of every living thing we see in this Universe. There is no purpose of human life other than like any other Animal specie. 2. BTOE (and its parent the Blind Big Bang Theory) believes that Whole Universe got created by itself just as a result of one Mighty Blind Big Bang a few Billion years ago. All physical laws and billions of stars and galaxies created themselves without any design, plan, or purpose. There was no Intelligence any where in this Universe (as to how
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Humans got the faculty of Intelligence starting from a Dumb Universe is another story). 3. The Blind Theory of Evolution believes that No Specie knows in which direction it is evolving and what will be the end result of that evolution process. 5. The Blind Theory of Evolution believes that Evolution is taking place only thru Random Mutation / Natural Selection. A process which no one knows, no one can explain and no one could possibly know results in advance. 6. As per BTOE, Random Mutation / Natural Selection are sufficient to explain creation of so many diverse life forms, starting from a single Hydrogen Atom Now any reasonable man can decide that those who propose this Blind Theory are Blind or one who is rejecting this Un scientific theory is Blind.
Q-21 Evolution , Creator, Some points to ponder
Ans. Last day I had a look at a date palm tree laden with fruits… It made me thinking…why this single tree produces so much fruits… year after year….at the same time of year…why? Just to survive? Can we count how many dates are produced by one single tree in its whole life? Why does it need that much multiplying factor for survival? The same is the case with mango tree…a single tree produces many hundred mangoes and its life is more than a hundred year. And then what is our actual contribution in growth of these trees? Just bury a stone on the ground and water it a couple of times….Is it enough to say that we are responsible for creating that tree? Has all this complicated system came into existence of its own as a result of Blind Evolution over millions of years?....The reason does not accept it…. And some people say, show us the Creator?
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Take any fruit in your hand, look at its shape, look at its shape, colour, smell and taste…..did it create itself….did it came by blind random mutations and natural selection? There has to be a Creator behind every such fruit. But so called Super Intelligent and Super Reasonable guys are unable to see it. They do have eyes, but do not use it for seeing….They do have ears… but do not use it for hearing….They do have hearts, but do not use it for contemplation. How would they excuse themselves when they meet their Creator?
Q-22 God, Actions, Can we judge God?
Ans. What God knows and what He does is not for us to contemplate. We are not judging Him. It is we, who are undergoing test and not Him. So instead of worrying about what He should do and what boring life is for Him, take care of your actions and deeds before you appear before Him in person to answer how you spent your life. The God's knowledge and His powers are supreme and we cannot fully comprehend them. Our brain and thinking and imagining powers are limited and that is why we stop at what He says about Himself in His Revealed books.
Q-23 God, Fool Proof Evidence?, What is the reality?
Ans. I think some people have much higher opinion about themselves than they are worth. They want God to come to them with Fool Proof (While they themselves are not fools but idiots, how fool proof solution shall work for them) evidence that He indeed exists. They presume that , to win one more servant, God along with all angels will come to their houses and beg them to please recognize them as his God.
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May be He should also bring a stamp paper counter signed by Charles Darwin and any one else whom these people think to confirm his identity. If He brings Charles Darwin also with Him, it would be more helpful. Then, He should not leave their houses unless they make up with Him and consent to recognize Him as Creator of this Universe. He should even bribe these people with wealth of this world and everlasting places of bliss in the hereafter. I marvel at self blown ego of these people!! They forget the process of their own birth, what control they had and what choice they had that they were born complete and with all faculties working. They did not ask from their mother’s womb, that I will not come out unless God comes Himself to deliver me!! They also forget what will happen to them within a couple of years when they die. Do they not picture their own decaying bodies inside their graves? Let them say, I will not die and I will not allow my body to get decayed!! These people are nothing but people with self blown and over grown ego. What they ask and what they deserve is a grievous Chastisement and nothing else.
Q-24 God, Why Atheists react to the word God?
Ans. The way you Highly Intelligent People react every time the word “God” is mentioned, brings to my remembrance a couplet written by an Urdu Poet AKBAR ILAHABADI , of Allahabad, India (Which is incidentally my home town also). This was written more than 100 years ago, First the Couplet in Urdu: Raqeebon ne likhayee hai rapat ja ja ke thane mein Ki Akbar Naam leta hai Khuda ka is Zamaney mein English Translation of this goes somewhat like this: “My adversaries have lodged a petition in the Local Police Station That Akbar invokes the Name of God even in these (Enlightened) Times!”
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How aptly this fits your case!! Mentioning name of God to you people is like showing a red flag to a pack of raging bulls. They all charge towards the one holding the flag and trample him under their hoofs. If there was a means with which we could communicate with babies in theirs mothers womb and ask them who is your creator and who is nourishing you?, I am sure most will reply “God”!. But I expect some of you to cry out even in that stage “Darwin” or “An Ape Like Ancestor”!! What has happened to you guys, have you forgotten every thing taught to you on your mothers knees?
Q-25 ID Movement, Creator, Difference between Creator and ID Designer
Ans. Why I did not comment or endorsed on ID movement, was only because I think they go only half way. Reason and Logic demands that this Universe was not Dumb. At the time of Big Bang (or before it) what was present was the Intelligence, without that there would not have been any Big Bang and even the Big Bang would have been a Big Bust. Why I do not want to equate Intelligence Designer with Creator is because Intelligence alone is not sufficient for any Creation. Along with Intelligence you must have Will and you Must have Power and you must have Ability to act on that Intelligence. There were and there are many people with very high level of Intelligence in this world, who could not achieve any thing, because they had no will, power, means and ability to use that Intelligence. And this is very common, extra intelligent people on this earth are usually a failure in their earthly life. Therefore Creator not only had Supreme Intelligence, but also Supreme Will, Supreme Power and Supreme Ability to put His Design into Practice. That is what according to me is lacking in this ID movement. They want to stay in the middle and do not commit themselves to anything.
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Their ID designer could be a shadow, could be real of imaginary and they have no means to having any contact with this Designer. Then I think they have no notion that this ID Designer wants humans to follow a code of life and pass the test of this life. I use the Word Creator in place of God, because people somehow have become allergic to hear this word God, since we are talking of evolution, so the word Creator has to be more acceptable. And Creation is one of the thousands of Qualities of God, others being, Knowledge, Power, Mercy, Forgiving Sins, Loving etc. I am not giving any circular arguments. The way I reject the slogan, God is Love, I also reject, God is Intelligent Designer.
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Chapter-2 Bible and Christianity Q-26 Bible Abrogation, Did Moses modified some of its laws?
Ans. You asked me to give one example , where Moses changed the laws, I will give you two 1. The rule laid down for slaughtering ox in Lev Ch 17 V 3 is abrogated in Deut Ch 12 Verses 15 to 20. In Lev it was obligatory to being a portion of slaughtered meat to the Tent of Assembly and in Deut it was no longer necessary. So which ever book was written first by Moses was changed by him later. 2. Lev Ch 4 fixes offering for a joint mistake as one Bull or ox , whereas in Numbers Ch 4 Verse 4, it is fixed as one Bull and one He goat. Then if we consider that how many rules of past generations (From Adam to Moses were modified, then it would be many). What it transpires is that laws of Torah are not that much inflexible that they cannot be changed with passage of time and with spread of civilization. There has to be some flexibility. At the same time, laws like the Ten Commandments were supposed to be followed till all time. The rule of Circumcision was to be followed irrespective of time. But the authority to modify any law written in scripture is only with a Prophet of God. No ordinary man can change a express command mentioned in any scripture. Jesus as a prophet of God had authority to modify Jewish laws to the extent God told him to. However St. Paul who abrogated all laws of Torah had no such authority and his stand must be rejected by Jews and Christians alike.
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Q-27 God , Trinity, Is God Uni-Plural?
Ans. The "We" and "US" used in Jewish language about God does not indicate plural of numbers. It is plural of Respect. Every Eastern language has this plural. Even in English language, Royal Pronouncements start with "We" and "US". Does it means there are three or more Kings and Queens in England at one time? It is for the people who know the language for to know what is the meaning of that language. In Quran also at many places God uses the term "We" , do you think Muslims also believe in plurality of God? If God was indeed Uni Plural (to Justify We and Us), then what about hundreds of places in Bible in which God Uses "I" to denote Himself? Why then no Jewish Prophet before Paul talked about Plurality in God Head? Why then Jesus did not tell, when some one asked him what is the First Commandment ? That First Commandment is "God our Lord is a Triune God...And I am the second Person in this Blessed Trinity"? John 1:1 is unsupported word of fourth Gospel writer. It is not from God and it is not from Jesus. Jews who believe in Jesus are the Real Jews and not only that they are real followers of Jesus, the real Christians. Jews who reject Jesus are the "Lost Sheep of house of Israel" Christians who make Jesus as God commit the biggest blasphemy in religious terms. Worshipping false gods.
Q-28 Bible, Age, Is Bible established for hundreds of thousands of years?
Ans. There might or might not be factual errors in Quran, but the truth is that your post is filled with factual errors. Let me point out to you a few:
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1. You say Bible is established for Hundred of Thousands of years. Is it really so? You know Moses existed only 3500 years ago and life of Universe as per Bible is between 8000 to 9000 years. How could the Bible be established for Hundred of Thousands of years. 2. Then you say that going around Kaaba is a Pagan ritual. That is not true, Kaaba was always referred to as House of God by Makkans. The practice of Hajj and going around Kaaba was traced to the days of Abraham their great ancestor. There is nothing pagan in the practice. 3. The black stone is not a moon rock, it is the only remnant of the original building of Kaaba constructed by Prophets Abraham and Ishmael. 4. I don’t know what you mean that our prophet stole much from OT and NT. In the same way you can say that Jesus stole many things from OT. Because he used many of them in his teachings. As for Quran it never copied any thing from OT and NT at all. If you name suggests that you are an Arab Christian, then you have Arabic Bible and Arabic Quran in front of you. Just compare and tell how our Prophet borrowed from OT and NT books. The revelation comes from God, who is the source of both OT and NT. If you say that no prophet receives any revelation from God, then it is another thing.
Q-29 Bible, Authenticity, Did God spoke to other people?
Ans. We do not negate the possibility that Eternal spoke to other people before our prophet. What we want is the evidence that it was so. The first thing is that you should know who wrote a particular book. Then that person should claim that I have written this book after receiving inspiration from God. Then there should be acceptance from his contemporaries that his claim was justified and was accepted by people around him. Then there should be proof that book which we have in our hand is the same which that person wrote.
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The question is not because of possibility or probability, but because of authenticity and authority. In case of Bible the claim is made by people, not by the books themselves nor by their authors. So many authors and translators are unknown, how we can believe only on good faith without any firm evidence. Islam says that Eternal spoke to all people and to all nations and He also sent books to all people and all nations. But those people did not preserve their books in their original shape. They lost some portion, they added some portion and they corrupted certain portions. Any one who studies Bible will confirm that the above statement is 100 % correct and that is what is being told by these Christian Scholars who published that Bible in a roundabout way. When they say, some unknown had edited the book or added something into the book, they mean the same thing but say it in a ambiguous language, so that less learned people do not recognize it. What you say about Tanakh comes into the same category. These books do contain the Words of God , but we are not sure which one is Word of God and which is addition / interpolation or corruption. We need a criterion to separate one form the other. what could be the criterion? Please tell us
Just blind faith that every thing written there is Word of God or every thing written there is totally unreliable? Do not misunderstand me, I do not totally condemn Bible and Do not swear by Bible also. I use the Criterion provided by Eternal Himself.
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Q-30 Bible Authenticity, How are we sure?
Ans. We would very much like to believe what Jesus said.. But the only way we have to know what Jesus really said is these so called Gospels. If these Gospels did not reproduce actual words of Jesus, rather the writers put their own words in the mouth of Jesus, then how can we be sure about what Jesus said? Jesus of John is totally different from Jesus of Mat. Mark and Luke.... whom to believe and whom to reject? Or believe in all four and believe in all the compounded errors of all four writers and contradictions and errors? That is what Jesus said, that a Future Comforter will come and he will guide you into all truth.
Q-31 Bible, Change, Do laws change in Bible?
Ans. Do you want me to Quote the changes in laws and practices from those First Five Books? If you study them closely, you will find that many times, the rules and instructions are changed in those books themselves. So It shows that these books are not beyond change. If Moses as a prophet could do the change under guidance of God, so could other prophets too. Jesus as prophet of God could indeed modify or abrogate some laws of OT under the guidance of same God who gave Torah to Moses. Then for your information, it is not right to say that Moses wrote those five books. None of the present day Biblical Scholars believe in this theory. This theory is only for simpleton people who are unaware of what goes on under the study of Higher Criticism of Bible.
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Q-32 Bible, God head, Does Bible says God became man?
Ans. It is not my words against Bible, It is Bible‘s word against Bible. In Bible itself it is told that God is not like anything in this Universe. Not like any thing on this earth, or in the Sea or in the Skies. Then how illogical is to say that God became man? God contradicting His Own Words? When God became man, then He was no longer God, because God and man are contradictory terms, God is infinite, man is finite. God does not eat or drink or has call of nature or has sexual desires, where as man needs to eat, drink, has call of nature and needs sexual urges. God never sleeps and man needs sleeps, God never forgets but man does forget. So saying that God became man, is like white became black, or light became darkness. Or Immortal became mortal. Please think of these contradictions when you say God became man. Does belief means believing in illogical and contradictory things?
Q-33 Bible, Hate, Do Muslims hate Bible?
Ans. I do not hate Bible at all. For your info, I own a Bible and I have read it from cover to cover. As per my thinking, Bible contains following type of materials: A. Words of God as revealed to His prophets. B. Words of Prophets, explaining the message received from God. C. Words of Historians, writing about the history of Jews and important events in their national life. D. Words of storey tellers, folklores and even some pornographic stories, inserted in between. All these four type of words are intermixed into the pages of Bible and there is no criterion available to separate one from the others.
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Instead of hating Bible, I believe and confirm most of that which comes under A & B. On C, I keep quite and do not pass any comment and I reject most of D. This in my view is the most prudent approach. Bible books in their present forms were not written by any of the Jewish prophets, that is why you did not see any “Foaming, gnashing and pining etc” The writers were “Honest” enough not to “Fake” prophets receiving revelation while they wrote these books. PS: Please enjoy my present series on “Is Bible Word of God?”
Q-34 Bible, , Inspiration, Is Bible Inspired by God?
Ans. Sound Doc is our self-claimed authority on Islam on this thread. You just go a few pages back and you will see his interminable posts, pages after pages. The guy is cut and paste master. He is a rabid Islam hater. That is why I take him as a perfect example of a typical Bible Thumper. Yes God could inspire any one, but at least we know who the writer is and what are his credentials. Right now most of the books in Bible are anonymous. No one is certain who wrote them, just by saying and believing that they were inspiration from God, they will not become that. In case of Quran, we have fool proof and solid authority that what Quran we have was the same which was proclaimed by Prophet Mohammad (PBUH). Quran claims itself at innumerable places that it is nothing but revelation from God. I know who the John the Apostle was, but he was not certainly the author of fourth gospel. On this almost all scholars of Bible agree. It is some one else who has written a book and assigned it to John the Apostle of Jesus. God being a man is a contradiction. No one can be man and God at the same time. If the Book of Isaiah says so, then either it is wrong or there is some mistake in taking that verse literally.
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Q-35, Bible, Lucifer, Had he any say in Bible?
Ans. I did not consider the possibility that Lucifer wrote any of books of Bible…If you have any evidence of it…. Then please present it to people. But Lucifer indeed cause many to be mislead , and under his influence the ideas such as 1. God taking Human Form 2. God begetting a Son 3. God dying on Cross. 4. God being part of Trinity 5. God freeing humans from Sin thru His own Blood etc. These are not teachings of any Prophet of God…so either these are from some one’s imaginations or generated thru whispering of Lucifer.
Q-36, Bible, OT Laws, Can they never be abrogated?
Ans. Those who say that none of the Biblical laws were to be abrogated for ever are in fact not telling the truth. What is the purpose of a law, if it is not established on land and stays only in the books? None of the Jewish laws relating to so many sacrifices are used any where in the world, neither by Jews, nor by any one else. So for all practical purposes they have been abrogated. Same is the case of so many laws on detecting leprosy and other disease mentioned in the book of Leviticus and elsewhere in the OT. Nobody follows them either and they have been proving wrong scientifically also. So how can one say, that none of the Biblical laws can be abrogated. Jesus as a prophet of God, under Divine guidance modified Laws of OT, which were not fit for his age.
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At a later date, Prophet Mohammad, another prophet of God, under Divine Guidance modified more Biblical laws which had become unfit for the modern age. Those teachings of Bible, which were fit for all times and all ages were confirmed by the last prophet and shall be enforced till the last day of this earth.
Q-37 Bible, Other religions, Do other religions base their laws on Bible?
Ans. I think you did a mistake here, It is only Muslims that base their laws on Bible and not the other way round. Islamic laws have similarity to most of the laws mentioned by Moses. They could be called as complimentary to each other. However, when St Paul and his followers caused an earthquake in the Biblical Laws and mixed their pagan philosophy with the teachings of Bible, then Biblical laws are no more laws so as to say. Islamic laws would have nothing to do with the heresies introduced by St. Paul in the Bible. But We Muslims follow most things which Jesus did or asked his followers to do. I clarified this, because your post gives the impression that all world religions follow the teachings of Bible.
Q-38 Bible, Writers, Revelation, Did Bible Writers received Revelation?
Ans. Compared with the so called prophesies mentioned in Bible, prophesies mentioned in Quran are real, and easily proven. First of all most of 40 + writers of Biblical books are unknown. Then most of them never claimed any Divine Guide or help in writing their books. No one was witnessing and observing the writes when they wrote their books. It is only about the last prophet that we have eye witness account at the time of receiving revelation from God. It is really comparing apples against oranges, if you compare the 66 / 73 books of Bible against Quran.
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Q-39 Bible, Unity of God, Does Bible say, God is One?
Ans. I remember that you once said that you were a Christian priest or preacher or some such thing. If I have to quote to you chapter number and verse number where it says that God is one, then I think I am talking to a layman. The whole Bible is full with verses and quotations where God says that I am alone God and there is no one beside Me. At least you would be remembering the statement of Jesus, when some one asked him, which is the First Commandment and Jesus Replied “First commandment is that Hear O Israel! Lord our God is one God and you shall love your God with all your heart…” Do you want to quote me chapter number and verse number for this important Jesus saying? Then In Gospel of John, Jesus says “This is life eternal, that they should know you, only one true God and to whom you have send…” Do you want me to quote chapter and verse number for this also? Am I talking to a Christian preacher or a layman?
Q-40 Biblical Prophesies, Reliability, How Reliable they are?
Ans. I leave you with your philosophies and your arguments.
You people will never talk in plain language. You must derive some hidden meanings in every thing, from Jewish Festivals to lunar and solar eclipse. These feasts were and still being observed since the time of Moses by Jews. These are nothing but to commemorate certain event s in Jewish history. This leaves the door open for mystic interpretation to every one who has crooked logics and that includes you.
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You forget to mention that how many thousands of predictions have failed in past, but no, you come back every other year with newer and newer predictions. Biblical Prophesies is a full time Business for many people. attract, cheat and mislead many people. They
We have parallel in you in India, with thousands of Astrologers, and sooth sayers. They also have a large following and roaring business. Nothing happens in this world unless an Astrologer has told that in advance (in fact they say that for every event, if it occurs they shout I told you so, if it does not, the other one who said it will not happen, shouts I told you so!). So every one is winner in the end
Q-41 Christian, Definition, Who is True Christian?
Ans. I thank you for your defining what a Christian is not. But you have not defined what is a true Christian? According to me a True Christian is: 1. Is the true follower of Jesus Christ. 2. He or She tries to follow in deeds and words (to the best of their ability) the path shown by Jesus Christ. 3. For whom the only authority are the words and deeds of Jesus Christ. He does not take any one else to insert their own ideas and formulas in the name of Jesus Christ. Please tell me if the above is correct and then try to find out how many of those who go by the name of Christians are True Christians?
Q-42 Comforter, Holy Spirit, Was Comforter Holy Spirit?
Ans. The Holy Ghost who has supposed to have descended on Pentecost Day, does not satisfy Criterion set by Jesus that it would guide you into "All Truth". Does any one has any record of what Holy Ghost taught to the Disciples of Jesus on that Pentecost Day?
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Did the Holy Ghost reveled to Disciples Secrets about Trinity? Which took more than 300 Years to evolve? Did the Holy Ghost warned Disciples about coming of a Self Claimed Mighty Apostle in the form of St. Paul, who came a few years after Pentecost? What did Holy Ghost actually taught? It did not lead them into all truth... It did not glorify Jesus.... It did not condemned the World... What else it dead except cause Disciples speaking in different tongues, whom neither they nor those present understood. Is that what Jesus Promised? Look again at Gospel of John in passages where quality of Comforter is described in Three Chapters. By no standard Holy Ghost of Pentecost day meet those conditions.
Q-43 Death, Jesus, Did Jesus freed us from death?
Ans. It was very unfair for God, to reveal something to Moses 2000 years back, without he having the least idea of what is actually meant. All later prophets of God, did not understand it fully including Jesus. It was only for Self Appointed 12th Apostle of Jesus (Paul) to really understand and unravel the “Mysteries” of OT. That is why I said, that you should call yourselves Pauline and not Christian. Your real Teacher is Paul, who teaches you his own philosophies and you just take his unsupported words as real truth. What was this sentence of death which God put on Human Genome? Has any one observed any change in the manners of human dieing? People did the same way before Crucifixion of Jesus and after his Crucifixion. There is no change in the numbers or the manners the people die.
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No, No, It is not Physical death, but spiritual death which we mean. Then why did God use a misleading phrase in His own Book? So that Paul can come and put his own version on it?
Q-44 God, Love Did God really loved Humans?
Ans. So according to you, After Jesus died for your Sins, you are free to commit any amount of Sin and Jesus will pay for it? Do you call that Love? Will you sacrifice YOUR Son, because of someone whom you LOVE? Why you have to Believe that Jesus died for your sin, and then only you will be saved? Does God love all Humans or only those who believe in Jesus? What kind of partial love is that? It seems to me, you have lot of explaining to do.
Q-45 Islam, God, Do we worship same God?
Ans. You are entitled to your opinion and I do not resent it. The God Muslims believe in is the Sole Creator of this Universe and every thing in it. The God Muslims believe in is Merciful, All knowing, All Powerful, Eternal Living, Free of All wants, Forgiving the repentant, Just God. The God Muslims believe in is Unique and Only One of its kind. He does not has any partners in His Kingdom and in His Powers and His management of all affairs. If Jews and Christians believe in any other type of God, I would be most willing to look into their concept of God. Just calling Him by Allah, God or YHWEH is not such a big difference after all. Rose by any other name would smell as sweet as Shakespeare is supposed to have said.
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Then I also appreciate your position that any contradiction or mistakes in Quran or Islamic literatures should be pointed out. But it should be done using civil language and we should give due weightage to the replies or explanation given by Muslims and should not be dogmatic about the way we have understood their scriptures. As an example, I would like you to look at the posts of Sound Doc. How he criticizes every thing Islamic, finding faults and contradictions where there is none….And then see how he defends the clear contradictions in Jesus s genealogy as mentioned in Matthew and Luke and death of Judas Iscariot as mentioned in Matthew and Book of Acts. Perhaps it was for such cases that Jesus said, “Why you look at straw in your brother ‘s eyes why you have a log in your own eye…”
Q-45A Jesus, Church , Did Jesus established a separate Church?
Ans. There was no "Church" (The way we know) at the time of Jesus. Jesus did not established any Church of his own separate from The Jewish Synagogue. He used to pray and teach in the same Jewish temples and synagogues. It were his followers (especially St. Paul) who separated follower of Jesus from Jews. As per Islamic teachings Jews did try to kill Jesus, but God saved him and took him to heavens with human body. He will return to earth before the end of time. So you will not gain any thing by ridiculing a great prophet of God. You only read his words as recorded in Gospels...they are still (despite many translations, revisions and editing’s) still powerful enough to move strong men to tears.
Q-46 Jesus, Divinity, Proving from OT?
Ans. Your aims are always to go for hidden meanings and try to get some how your meanings by any twists or tricks. The foundations of your faith, should be laid very clearly and without any doubt. It was for Jesus to clearly state his mission and his personality.
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Isaiah 48:16 does not say, what you say about GODHEAD consisting of three persons, Father Son and Holy Spirit and all three beings coequal, co-existent and in spite of being three are one. Isaiah 53, does indeed paints a picture of some one suffering, but is does not prove your claim that Original Sin of Adam was inherited by all his Children and God send His Only Begotten Son to get crucified and absolve humans of these sins. Psalm 22 speaks about some one is distress (V 1-18), but in later verses (19-21) prays God to deliver him from his enemies. Why cant we believe that God heard the prayer of His Servant and saved him form the agony. It is very strange that when it comes to the question of faith, you keep on quoting form Old Testament Books and when it comes to practices , you reject all the laws and commandments mentioned in the same Old Testament books. Believing in a part of Books and Rejecting another part? It is called Hypocrisy in religious terms? Is it not?
Q-47 Jesus, God, Is Jesus God?
Ans. Your post shows how confused and weak is your logic, see: let us
A. John 1:1 are the words of John and not the words of Jesus or words of God. On what authority has John written that is known to him only. - Do you think John (The Gospel writer) was a prophet or messenger of God? - Do you think that John (the Gospel writer) was one of the chosen 12 Disciple of Jesus? John the Gospel writer was none of the above, this gospel was written somewhere in 95-98 CE long after all chosen disciples of Jesus were dead. Just wait, till we come to the Gospel of John in my posts “Is Bible word of God”
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B. John 1:14 The same thing applies here as for John 1:1, so it is personal opinion of the fourth gospel writer and not revelation from God. C. Peter 1:18-19 The letter of Peter was not written by Peter Himself, it is so different from what we hear Peter speaking in the books of Act. This letter was written by some follower of Paul, who wrote it in the name of Peter. Wait till we come to this letter in our studies. D. Isaiah 9:6 The Child is born According to this prophesy (if it refers to Jesus): - Jesus should have tasted government. - Jesus should have been called Wonderful Counselor - Jesus should have been called Mighty God. - Jesus should be Everlasting father. - Jesus should be called Prince of Peace. During the life time of Jesus none of these ever happened: - Jesus never had any part in any government. - No body called Jesus as Counselor , in fact Jesus promised another Counselor that would come after him. - As per you, Jesus is not Everlasting Father So there is something missing in this prophesy. Part of it applies to Jesus and part of it does not. How could one judge on this insufficient info?
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Q-48 Jesus, Mission, Was Jesus Reformer of Torah?
Ans. You are right, Jesus was a Jewish prophet , who came to teach real meaning of Torah to the Jews, who had only taken its outer words and gone away from its real teachings. He was the greatest and last reformer of the Jewish faith. You are also right, Powerful and Educated Jews of his days did not hearken to his message and tried to suppress it. It is very simple indeed, but that is the story of all prophets of God, repeated over and over and over. To you it may look simple, but it really means difference between heavens and hell!!
Q-49 Jesus, OT and NT, Did Jesus preached NT?
Ans. Please see my reply above. In Jesus time, there was nothing like OT and NT. He was a Jewish prophet, he was speaking to Jews of his days. He preached to them good news of God's mercy. He removed the extreme formalism and dogmatism which had creped into the Jews and their scholars of those days. He was the best things that could happen to Jews of those days. But as is the fate, most of Jews rejected him and continued in their disbelief. Any attack on formalism and ritualism was seen by them as attack on Torah and their peers. They paid a heavy penalty for this disbelief then and in past 2000 years. There was nothing like Anti Semitism in those days, how could Jesus, a Jew himself, would become Anti Semite. He was not Anti or Pro Semite, he was not Pro or Anti Jew. As one of the Greatest Prophet of all times, he was only Pro God and Anti Satan!!!
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If his followers had only followed his simple teachings.......but that is a sad story (and true for all so called followers of prophets....we Muslims are no exceptions also)
Q-50 Paul, Who has authority?
Ans. What you have written is the logic of Saint Paul and not Jesus. Saint Paul never met or saw Jesus during his life, he was self claimed 13th Apostle of Jesus. We cannot take any statement of Saint Paul unless it is confirmed by express words of Jesus. If Jesus freed Humans from the grip of Satan, then why is Satan still present and misleading people? When Sin was automatically transferred to all children of Adam, then why not the sacrificing blood of Jesus wiped this sin automatically too? Why one must believe that Jesus dies for our sin before this magic cure works? Then after accepting that, we see SO Called Born Again Christians are still doing horrible things. All this idea of Original Sin, Vicarious Atonement was the St. Paul logic, taken from pagan religion and Greek philosophy and nothing else. He duped million of Christians and even now, Christians are ready to accept unsupported and un corroborated words of St. Paul and not those of Jesus... Jesus said "I have not come to destroy the laws and prophets..." Paul Says "If you follow law (meaning Torah) you will not get any thing from Jesus..." Jesus told about Unity of God in no uncertain terms, it was Paul who equated Jesus with God and said that Jesus created everything in the Universe. Listen to Jesus and Jesus only and you can still find salvation in the existing four Gospels.
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Q-51 Jesus, Proof that Jesus existed?
Ans. My proof for that is confirmation from God Almighty in His Final Revelation to mankind, that Jesus the Prophet did exist and preached his message to Jews of his time. It also says that Jesus was not crucified and he did not die, so the Risen Christ does not exist and is only an imaginary figure concocted by St. Paul and his followers. For any event that has passed in history, the words of Omniscient and Omni present God of this Universe carry more weight than the words of those who write from hearsay
Q-52 Jesus, Resurrection, Did Resurrected Jesus existed?
Ans. There is more personal name calling and settling personal issues than people writing about what was the purpose of Jesus' death? As per we Muslims, Jesus never died and he was not crucified, instead he was taken up alive into the heavens by God. So we are very clear that the basic question of the thread has no meaning because the event did not happen at all. Those saying that Jesus did not exist at all, are also wrong. But that Resurrected Jesus did not exist at all it absolutely true!!! Because if he did not die, there was no question of his resurrection. Resurrected Jesus was the creation of Saint Paul and there fore he invented his own purpose for what Jesus died. What we are arguing is therefore against the idea of Saint Paul that Jesus died to take away sins or rather original sin of human kind. In Islam there is no original sin at all, sin is never inherited...so to us the logic of Paul is futile, because it has no authority from Jesus himself. Any one can say anything about a person when he is not present and that is what St. Paul did regarding Jesus.
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Does it make sense?
Q-53 Jesus, Resurrection, Was Jesus Crucified?
Ans. PS: I have some reasons to show that Crucifixion and Resurrection might not have happened as mentioned in the four gospels 1. None of the Gospel writers were eye witness of Crucifixion. 2. None of the Gosper writers were eye witness of Resurrection. 3. They do not name the eyewitness who told them these events. 4. There are many contradictions in the story told in four gospels, internal as well as external. 5. Time allowed for Crucifixion was very less, i.e. three to four hours, in that short time it was not common for a young man (Jesus was 3334 years old, in good health) to die on cross. 6. His legs were not broken to hasten his death. 7. When he was pierced with spear, water and blood came out showing that he was alive at that time. 8. The most damning proof that it was not Jesus who died is the last sentence spoken by the one who was on cross i.e. Eli Eli Lama Sabaqtani. My God, My God why have you forsaken me. 9. I do extreme and less religious believe that Jesus was a man of very firm belief, even in pain, he would not have said these words. Many less devout firm believers have been crucified or burned at stake by their opponents. They bore the pain and did not protested to God.
How come Jesus as a great prophet of God can utter these words? 10. There are many more reasons to show that who died on Cross was not Jesus, that is why it is said in Quran "The matter was made appear to be so…those who argue about it only talk with conjecture, they have no real knowledge" what I wrote above proves this Quranic verse.
Q-54 Jesus, Resurrection, Did Resurrected Jesus existed?
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Ans. There is more personal name calling and settling personal issues than people writing about what was the purpose of Jesus' death? As per we Muslims, Jesus never died and he was not crucified, instead he was taken up alive into the heavens by God. So we are very clear that the basic question of the thread has no meaning because the event did not happen at all. Those saying that Jesus did not exist at all, are also wrong. But that Resurrected Jesus did not exist at all it absolutely true!!! Because if he did not die, there was no question of his resurrection. Resurrected Jesus was the creation of Saint Paul and there fore he invented his own purpose for what Jesus died. What we are arguing is therefore against the idea of Saint Paul that Jesus died to take away sins or rather original sin of human kind. In Islam there is no original sin at all, sin is never inherited...so to us the logic of Paul is futile, because it has no authority from Jesus himself. Any one can say anything about a person when he is not present and that is what St. Paul did regarding Jesus. Does it make sense?
Q-55 Jesus, Ritual law, What is Ritual Law?
Ans. What is ritual law and what is civil laws? I think ritual laws are more important than civil laws. When Jesus 's dieing on cross took care of ritual laws, then why breaking of civil laws should count that much? If you are cleared of Murder Charge, a minor burglary rap should not worry you? Should it not?
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Q-56 Jews, Jesus Mission of Jesus and Paul?
Ans. You have beautifully described the message and position of Jesus. He was a prophet of God, sent to House of Israel, to bring them back to the path, they had gone astray of. He was Messiah, meaning the anointed one, meaning man with a special mission from God. The Jews and Romans of his days did not like his "Plain Speaking" and became his enemies (as is the case with most prophets of God). He and his followers struggled against this opposition. When Jesus left the scene, his followers after him continued his message. But then a strange thing happened, one of Jews (who did not knew Jesus, and had not learned anything either from Jesus or his chosen Apostles) hijacked the mission of Jesus. He raised Jesus to the level of Divinity, introduced the concept of Trinity (which is dangerously close to worshipping three gods) and abolished the Torah and all Moses laws. His Christ had nothing to do with Real Life Jesus, who was Jewish by birth, practiced all Moses' laws and only introduced some moral teachings to supplement laws of Moses. These concepts like God's Begotten Son, Trinity, Original Sin and abolition of Torah's Laws etc cannot be acceptable to Jews who follow laws of Moses. These teachings are also against teachings of all Jewish prophets. This so called "Saint" Paul, put a permanent barrier between Jews and followers of Jesus. There was no way that one could be both. By another strange logic, most followers of Jesus (who call themselves Christians) instead of rejecting unfounded and unproven claims of Saint Paul, chose to follow him instead of teachings of Jesus. I do not know what they will reply to Jesus, when he will ask them, did I tell you to follow Paul? On whose authority you accepted his as My Apostle and My Pupil? The real situation is No True Jew can accept teachings of St. Paul and remain Jew and the so called Followers of Jesus will not dump the teachings of self claimed and self appointed 13th Apostle of Jesus.
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This is an impasse and I do not know how it can be overcome. Messianic Jews are trying to follow Moses' laws and also follow teachings of Jesus. If they reject innovations of Paul, they are closest followers of Jesus.
Q-57 Jews , Message, Why Christians do not follow Sabbath?
Ans. Jesus was the greatest reformer of Jewish religion. He introduced moral element into a religion which had become too dogmatic and ritualistic. If you read Gospels, you will see the evidence of this statement every where. Sabbath: The Jews had taken the practice of Sabbath to the extreme. The original purpose of Sabbath was to give a rest day in a week, so that people could take rest and remember and praise God. But Jews of those days (and even present day Jews) had taken it to extreme formalism. That is what Jesus objected to it. Same can be said about other Jewish rituals. Jesus followed all laws of Moses and never ever broken any of them. He modified them according to what authority he had from God Almighty. His teachings should be read as continuation of Moses laws and they make perfect sense. However after Jesus, left the scene, His Followers, especially St. Paul turned his religion upside down. He turned Jesus into God, Introduced concept of Trinity, Original Sin, Atonement and what not. He Broke Jesus away from Torah and Moses s law and Christianity became a mix of Paganism and Greek Philosophy. I do not object to your position, if you cannot see Jesus as a Jewish Prophet in all this Greek and Roman Philosophy. Messianic Jews in my view are the True Christians, is there is a word like Christian in the Scripture.
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Q-58 Judaism, Jesus, Can Jews believe Jesus is son of god?
Ans. When you can be Jewish and Believe that Israel is Son of God… When you can remain Jewish and believe Ephraim as Son of God, even His First Born… When you can be Jewish and believe that David was Son of God, even His First Born, This Day I have begotten thee.. Then why cannot you be Jewish and believe that Jesus is Son of God? The basic problem is in the understanding of the term "Son of God". Jews by this term means that some one which is very close to God and some one who is Liked by God in other world a godly person a righteous person. They are very right in their interpretation. Pauline Christians on the other hand mean that "Jesus is God's Begotten Son", or he is God in Human Form and a third of some thing they call as Holy Trinity. They are certainly wrong in their beliefs and these are not the teachings of Jesus the Jewish prophet but self concocted theories of St. Paul and his followers. It seems that Messianic Jews believe only in the prophet hood of Jesus and he being Son of God in the sense as they see so many Sons of God in their scripture. Messianic Jews therefore are true followers of Jesus and true Jews also. Other Jews by rejecting the prophet hood of Jesus , commit a sin by rejecting a righteous prophet of God.
Q-59 Nuns, Dress Code, Has it changed?
Ans. I liked your style of posting and your respect for our religion, but I found some thing contradictory in your statement. On the one hand you advise us that it is 21st century and we should change accordingly, but immediately afterward you say that "You do not Interpret Bible" and leave that job to Church. Then you say that Pope and his aids receive divine inspiration, both of these claims mean that you stick to your old beliefs and do not want to change. The dresses do change with time, Islam does not want us to wear a particular type of dress, it only gives us guidelines which are:
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1. The dress should be modest and should not reveal the shape of body. 2. The dresses for males and females should be distinguishable from each other. 3. The dress should cover those portions of human body, which are not to be revealed in public. I think the nuns do fulfill these conditions, I have not seen any nun in mini skirt and bikini, have you? We can advise each other over good behaviour and things of mutual interest, no one should take offense on that.
Q-60 Paul Authority, What is Paul’s authority?
Ans. Why you have to every time quote from Paul when answering these questions. What authority has he in Christendom? Was he a prophet? Was he an Apostle appointed by Jesus? Did he met Jesus in his life time? Did he learn anything from Jesus or Apostles chosen by Jesus? How come his teachings are directly opposite to that of Jesus? How come no Christian even asks what is the source of knowledge and source of authority of Paul? Most followers of Jesus call themselves Christians, but indeed they are Pauline...
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Q-61 Ritual Law, What was Adam’s Sin?
Ans. What was the ritual law that was broken, for which the whole humanity has to burn in hell for eternity? Let us see how serious was the crime and how severe was the penalty. Please inform us about the severity of crime which was done by the first parent. And compare it with the severity of crimes which most humans do which you call breaking "Civil" laws. Let us see the Qualities of Justice and Mercy of Lord of God, the Loving Father in Heaven.
Q-62 Sin, Death, Did Jesus die for our sins?
Ans. "The Soul That Sinneth Shall Die...." (Book of Ezekiel). It looks so logical and natural and reasonable that I hardly think any one can argue against it. That was the status from the time of Adam till the (Supposed) crucifixion of Jesus. Enter St. Paul and he changed that rule and started his own ides of "Jesus dieing for all people..." What is this logic? You commit sins and Some one else pays for it? Why it is not used for other walks of life...for examples.. You have appendicitis and some one else is operated in place of you. You Rob and they jail some one else. You commit Traffic Violations and they ticket some one else. The Total idea and total logic is absurd. Mean while it is only found in the letters of Paul (and from there it crept into gospels). Jesus did not teach that , nor any other prophet of God
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Q-63 Sin, Effect, How did Jesus took the sin away?
Ans. I read with interest your post regarding Christians and the sin. You said that a true Christian shall not sin willfully. If due to some human weakness they do commit some sin, they would repent to God and He will forgive their sins. In my view, That was exactly the position before Jesus came into the world. What do you mean when you say that Jesus has died for our sins and that he has taken away the sins of the world? What is the remedy for sins that any Christian does intentionally and he does not seek forgiveness from God for those sins?
Q-64 Trinity, Math, Can Trinity be proven by Math?
Holy Trinity and Maths: It was very interesting for people to prove Holy Trinity by using Maths. First of all, I marvel at the comment by "Hillary" that she fully Understood the Holy Trinity. The truth is that explanation of Trinity is one of the most difficult and intriguing of All Christian Dogmas. No one is able to explain it clearly and logically. The arguments all get confused and cancel each other. That is why the current position is to accept Trinity without understanding it fully. They say it is A Secret of God. Whatever it may be, it is not reasonable and it is not logical, and it was never preached by any of the Jewish prophet including Jesus. Coming back to Trinity and Maths, let us try some formulas: a. 1+1+1 = 1 (Which is obviously wrong) b. 1X 1 X 1= 1 (As suggested by some one) c. 1 / 1 / 1 = 1 (It is as logical as b.)
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d. 1 - 1 + 1 = 1 (Son and holy spirit cancel each other, and what is left is Father, the One and Only God!!)
Q-65 Violence, Non Violence , Are Christians Non Violent?
Ans. Anyone familiar with the history of Christianity and Church would laugh at your saying that Non Violence was used to spread Christianity. Dark ages and Medieval ages, in your view were the ages of Non Violence. How much violence has been done by Church and Christians in the name of fighting those heretics and non conformists is still can be seen in the pages of church history. The most deadly wars in human history WW-1 and WW-2 were fought between mostly Christian nations. Even now the deadliest stockpile of every types of arms and ammunitions is to be found in nations which call themselves Christians. Jesus was the Truth, the way and the life, during the period of his ministry. No one came to God except thru Moses. In Moses time, Moses was the Truth, the way and the life, no one came to God except thru Moses. Now after the coming of Comforter or Counselor (in the form of Last prophet of God, Prophet Mohammad), he has become the truth, the way and the life. No one can reach God except thru Mohammad. It is you who make Jesus as God or Worst Liar… where as you are wrong on both the fronts. He was not God and he was not the worst liar. He was what he claimed to be, he was a mighty prophet of god, sent to the lost sheep of house of Israel. He preached Monotheism and he submitted his will to the will of His God. He was a perfect Muslim and nothing more.
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Chapter-3 Evolution Q-66 Bible, Compatibility, Can one believe in both?
Ans. If you have gone thru my previous posts, I did not say that there was no Evolution. What I wrote against was this Blind Theory of Evolution, where there was no plan, no design, no intelligence in the whole process any where. Things just happened the way they liked, guided by a Blind Random Mutation and Blind Natural Selection. If any one can think or believe that such complexity of life can come out by itself, just by passage of time, then he or she should call him self any thing but a rational person. Moreover if any one can claim to have belief in Bible and This Blind Theory of Evolution at the same time, then either he does not understand any of the two or (I cannot say a harsh word, because my Friends will object to it). If God chose the path of evolution, I am not against it. But to think that species just evolve and multiply by themselves, is not a reasonable and scientific approach.
Q-67 BTOE, Predictable Combination, Is it Sin to be ignorant?
Ans. Organic Molecules and Predictable Combinations: No our sacred book does not give any info about Organic Molecules and Predictable combinations, however it says that nothing happens in this Universe without knowledge and without plans of the Al Mighty Powerful Creator. It is as per His Design and Plan that Organic Molecules and Predictable combinations are made. Our sacred book deals with more important issues, than Organic Molecules and Predictable Combinations, it deals with what is the
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purpose of human life on this earth and what will happen to us when we die. Ignorance of that is a really sin, even if you know all about Molecules and Predictable combinations and be ignorant about what was the purpose of your life, it is you who are committing sin and not me. Countless human generations who passed before us and did not knew about Organic Molecules and Predictable Combinations committed any sin.
Q-68 BTOE, Probability, What the theory says?
Ans. Evolution by Chance? I had hoped that once I gave the odds against a card deck arranging itself in a proper order just by random shuffling, the people would realize their mistake on that Chance issue. But it seems that there are “Die-Hard” supporters of this Blind Evolution Theory that would cling to any thing and confuse themselves and the others. I had mentioned that Card deck is a very simple model compared to a living cell, But these “Die-Hard” supporters did not take the cue and continued in their faulty approach confusing others who do not have real idea about astronomical odds involved. So today instead of one complete living cell (which is thousands time more complicated than), I will talk about a Single Protein Molecule. Now going by the “Pure Chance and Random Collision” theory in that Primeval Soup, that a single Protein Molecule would create it self by chance is Approx 1 X E 600 ! Now let us analyze that figure : A. The Weight of Earth : 1 X E 28 Gm. (Approx. as I was taught in our Intermediate Schools). B. Total Number of Atoms in earth: Approx. 1 X E 50 (Assuming E 22 atoms per Gm, as our learned Evolutionist has suggested).
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C. Total Number of Atoms in the Known Universe : 1 E 100 (Considering that there are E 30 Stars and planets and each of them is E 20 times bigger than our earth, which is a very reasonable assumption). D. The odds that one Single Protein Molecule would come by chance if whole Universe was made as Primeval Soup would be in the range of : 1 in 1 E 500!!! Ask any mathematician what is the chance of that happening in real life. That negates the theory that life could have started accidentally on this earth or could have had an extra terrestrial origin and planted on earth. Mind you we have only 5 to 8 Billion years from the Supposed Blind Big Bang to the Creation of All life forms. That was the odds about a Single Protein Molecule…what are the chances that a Single Cell would have Evolved by Chance? Any one would suggest a guess? Zero as per Physics and Mathematics!!! 100 % if Creator wants it to happen!!! Now the choice is yours, believe in BTOE and remain Blind to the end to your earthly life. Open your eyes and Enjoy, Explore, Appreciate and Get Amazed by the Power, Knowledge , Wisdom and Mercy of Al Mighty Super Powerful Creator, who controls each of these 1 E 100 Atoms in this Universe!!! How that Idea of Creator can fit into the minds of those who think or believe: - God living like Humans, having wives and children. - God is the form of sun, moon, stars, stones, wood and such materialistic forms.
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- God Begetting a Son and getting His Son die on cross and taking the sins of world etc. The Majesty and Power of Creator is much above that (and much above the intelligence of a human that has only 1 E 13 cells in himself) Will our Super Brains still grope in Dark or Open their eyes?
Q-69 BTOE, Self-Replicator, How could it come?
Ans. Self Replicator:
For a system to be Blind, It has to totally Blind from beginning to the end!! There should not be any intelligence or Guidance or Planning at any stage, otherwise it would beat the game. The term Self-Replicator is itself a misnomer, how can things be self – replicating in a Blind Free for All Scenario? Is Self-Replicator like a Perpetual Motion Machine? Some how people did not look at the odds that were mentioned 1 X E 600 Verses 1 X E 100 Total numbers of Atoms Even if there were 1 X E 10 protein molecule combinations, even then the odds shall be astronomical. In such short period of time, every thing has to evolve beginning from creating of atoms to the self- Replicator molecule. That is not possible by any permutation and combination unless there was an UNSEEN Hand!!! And to see that UNSEEN Hand, these Blind Followers have to open their EYES and come out of that Blind Zone which they call as BTOE.
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Q-70 Chance, Probability, What is probability for a deck of card to arrange itself in order?
Ans. Calculate the possibility of having one series on 1,2,3 in that order in mathematical terms....and tell me what happened to the trillions of other deals? By the way what about having a Windows program by shuffling a large string of 1s and 0 s..... And then the same 1s and 0s to rearrange them for regular updates....? Is there a mathematician on this thread? This is regarding Card Shuffling so that the cards would arrange them in serial order 1 , 2 , 3 … I asked if there is any mathematician on this thread to find the probability of such an event happening by mere chance. I did not get any reply, so I tried to calculate it myself. The probability that First card after Random Shuffling will be 1 of spade is 1/52. The possibility that first two cards shall be 1 & 2 of spades is 1/52 X 1/51 i.e. 1 / 2652. So the possibility that whole deck would be arranged in serial order 1,2, 3…….is 1/52 X 1 X 51 X 1/50……and you know what is the final figure is? It is 8 X 10 raised to the power 67!!! It means that if One Trillion Card Decks were being shuffled Randomly at the rate of 1 Shuffle per second….It would take 1 X 10 to the power 48 years to get just one sequence like that!!! That is some real random chance!!! Yet we see the trick performed many times by so many so called magicians before our very eyes. What transpires is not any random chance, but the man places each card where he wants it, there is no chance there at all.
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There goes down the drain of so called Random Mutation Theory of Blind Evolution!!! But there will still be die hard supporters of BTOE despite this!!
Q-71 Darwin, Relation , Is Modern TOE same as Darwin?
Ans. The theory of evolution as propounded by Darwin and the Blind Theory of Evolution as propounded by modern day Pseudo Scientists are polls apart. Just because they are both named as Theory of Evolution should not confuse any one. Darwin never negated the possibility of a Creator responsible for creating life on this earth....the modern day followers of Darwin laugh at the mere mention of word Creator. So you just cannot bracket the modern day Evolutionists with Charles Darwin. It is real test of Human reason that despite 150 years of propaganda, still 50 % people reject the idea of Blind Theory of Evolution. Any one with open eyes, ears and brain cannot convince his conscience that this entire Universe was the result of Blind Big Band...followed by Chance Creation of First self Replicating cell....and then following Blind Random Mutation and Blind Natural Selection....resulted in this complex life form. I salute the average population of Britain that despite so much media bombardment...majority of them did not digest this Blind Theory of Evolution. I am sure if you take honest post, vast majority of people in whole world would subscribe to this Blind Theory of Evolution. Only a few Zealots , some of which we see on this thread, do not represent vast majority of Human population.
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Q-72 Fossil, Miracle, Is every fossil a Miracle
Ans. You are right, every fossil is a little miracle and so is every living creature!! Both are in front of us to see the past and present of God’s creations. But to prove Blind Theory of evolution from Fossil records is an act in futility. There are no fossils which are cross between two species, those who are in the stage of evolution. All fossils are of complete living species. Many of them have become extinct.
Q-73 God, Creation, Did God created evolution?
Ans. If God created Evolution, then there is no Random Mutation and no Natural Selection. Can you CREATE Random Mutation? By its very definition, Random is some thing which no one can control or predict. For Creation, you must know what are you creating? How can you have both? Creation as well as Randomness?
Q-74 Human Body, Defects, IS Human body defective?
Ans. It is as per you that human body took billions of years to evolve and so much time was still not sufficient for it to evolve into a “Perfect” shape (as per you own standards). So instead of finding fault in the design of Creator, it would have been very easy for Millions of Modern Medicine and Modern Technology and Modern Engineering and Modern Philosophers to Create a better working model for humans. What I really see that you people are whining and complaining on the shortcoming of Creator’s design with out creating any thing of your awn? Is it a fair criticism? It is like the one who cannot paint any thing himself, yet comments on the masterpieces of Picasso and Von Gaugh and Michelangelo!
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First all of humans combined together Create one Human Fly, Just by your efforts and then you have some thing to say on the defects of other species. You want proof of Creator, what Greater proof than, Billions of Humans joined together cannot create one Human Fly and Creator Creates Billions of Human Flies (and other life forms) every day!!
Q-75 Humans, Apes, Did we evolve from Apes?
Ans. Some one mentioned that irrevocable proof that we and apes EVOLVED from same ancestors is that we share 98 % Genes with them. Why cant we evolved from Ants, because we share 100 % of Basic Raw Materials with them!!! If we share 78 % Genes with Lions then we have to have some connection with lions too!!! You are right in a way though, since we are all created by the same God, there is hardly any problem if we share genes or other materials ....but I think the word God is a Four Letter Word for Most of you Super Intelligent and Super Reasonable and Super Scientists.
Q-76 ID Movement, Creator, Is ID and God are same?
Ans. I do not know what this Intelligent Design movement is and what their beliefs are. I only speak with common sense and pure human reason. Nothing creates itself and nothing comes into being by random variations. To think that Universe of this size, with so much complexity and with so much order and life with all its complexities came by itself as a result of a Blind Big Bang is against all reason and logic. That is the basis which needs and demand a Creator. How He decides the times of coming and extinction of any specie is known to Him. As I told you, only a gardener knows the reason for pruning a tree or branch or replace one flower with another flower and other matters of the garden.
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We humans did not create this earth, life on this earth and we humans have no power to create or destroy any specie. We should live on this earth in a normal way and should not misuse our power or natural resources. If we do excesses, then we will be responsible for our actions. Not otherwise. Why a Merciful and Knowledgeable Creator allows extinction of any specie is known to Him only. My argument is with those who believe in Blind Theory of Evolution, that life form themselves evolve from one specie to another without any designer, planner or Creator.
Q-77 Evolution Justification, Limits, What are limits of TOE?
Ans. There was nothing wrong or nothing objectionable about the Theory of Evolution, till its overzealous supporters took its "Eyes" away and made it "Blind"!!! That was when they "Assumed" that all changes were happening automatically without any Plan, Design or Intelligence in short without any Creator. That was such an unreasonable attitude which could never be justified or proved or explained on logical or reasonable grounds. They had lots and lots of explaining to do...how the "Dead" atoms become "Alive" all of a sudden? Why there was urge or reason to "Evolve"? The more they tried to explain the more complicated and more unreasonable it became. It is some what like Trinity. The more you try to explain or justify, the more unreasonable it becomes. When the supporters of "Blind Theory of Evolution" could not explain or answer questions, they opted for easiest way out, to shout down and insult every one who objects on this theory on any ground. They start making fun and hurl insults to any one and every one who casts doubts on their own version of Blind Theory of Evolution.
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To believe or think or justify that hydrogen atom by chance or just by time "Evolved" into this whole Universe and this complicated life forms is against reason. I have already shown that a single card deck to arrange in a simple ascending order 1,2, 3 as a result of random shuffling is 8 X 10 raised to the power 67!!! Single cell is certainly more complicated than a 52 piece card deck. The only reasonable attitude is to believe that there is a very Powerful, Knowledgeable Creator at the back of this Universe. He is the sole cause behind all this Evolution. When you believe that then your "Theory of Evolution" is no longer blind, it has got "Eyes". It does not depend on Random Mutations, but "Well Defined Mutations", there is no "Natural Selection" but Clear cut direction as to when a certain specie would come and when it would die out. But followers of BTOE, want to prove that a Circle is same as a Square....they might try and might even fool some people for some time...but in the end, it would become clear that a Square is a Square and Circle is a Circle. For believers of BTOE, there is no purpose of life...since their theory is Blind so the life must be blind too. With this blind eye, they cannot perceive beauty of life and beauty of creator and presence of Ultimate Creator.
Q-78 Mutation, Random, Are Mutations Random?
Ans. The real question is not whether mutations change species, the question is, if these changes are random or by mere chance or they are well planned? The Evolutionists claim that the changes are happening just by random chance. No random chance can change a specie into another in many billion years. I have explained that just by rearranging 1 s and 0 s randomly, Windows 95 would never evolve into its next version in a billion year. Whereas the programmers do it every two to three years!!
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In the same way, random shuffling of cards would not arrange themselves in 1,,2 ,3 in a hundred billion years, But the magicians does it many time in front of our own eyes.!! The point is that Creator can make any change in any specie at any time in any way He likes. There is no Random ness or Chance happening anywhere in the nature. It is only our limited thinking and limited information, that we call these changes random. That is what I have explained many times on this thread, Theory of Evolution might be true, but Blind Theory of Evolution, which has usurped the original Theory of Evolution is against science ...logic... reason...and any other parameter that can be used to judge truth from falsehood. Fossil records or any other scientific method of investigation proves the hand of Creator and that of any Random Mutation. That is what all these series of posts of Dr. Adel are all about.
Q-79 Mutation, Random, Are mutations Random?
Ans. Yes, Mutations can change, but there is nothing like Random Mutation.. What looks to you as Random is not Random to the Creator. Like any Computer Program looks like a random strings of 1 s and 0 s. But to the Programmer, they are not. Just by rearranging these 1 s and 0 s, Windows 95 would not Evolve to Windows 98. But the programmers would always be rearranging these 1 s and 0 s to change Windows 95 to Windows 98 to Windows Millennium to XP to Vista and latest versions. That is the difference between Theory of Evolution and Blind Theory of Evolution.
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The first one is a real scientific study to see how species changed over time and the later one is a Pseudo Scientific Philosophical attempt to negate presence of Creator, Order, Design and Purpose of every thing in Universe. It is for real scientists to reject BTOE and continue their studies of TOE....it would never hurt any one....they would indeed be amazed at the Power, Wisdom and Mercy of Creator.
Q-80 Evolution Proof, Does Quran support TOE?
Ans. Quran is not a book of science it is a book of guidance.
It lays down the principle for ultimate success of human life on this earth. No amount of Material progress brings happiness or success for human lives. People who were living four thousand years ago and had no idea of any of present day gadgets were in no way unsuccessful or unhappy or their life was in no way of any inferior quality than we have today. Material progress and success of human life are not at all related. So the subject of Quran is not science, but it lays down certain fundamental principle for this Universe and every thing in it. The First and Foremost of that principle is that Each and Every Thing in this Universe has been Created by God. Nothing came by itself, nothing designed itself and nothing is existing by itself. It is not a mad world out there, each and every thing in it is carefully planned and designed and is being monitored. Any thing which is against this fundamental principle of Quran has to be summarily rejected, unless we have real proof about it. So the BTOE from its first step denying Creator, Designer, Purpose and Order is against Islam and has to be summarily rejected. Moreover when we see that none of the so called Scientific evidences support this BTOE, its add weight to our logic.
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The real Scientists know this basic flaw of BTOE, that is why they are not committing themselves to it,... but as I said Pseudo Scientists would jump to any idea which gets them away from this Concept of Creator and it is not the concept of Creator itself, but to regulate their lives, to submit their self and their ego to their Creator. The time factor is not proof that things worked themselves out by themselves (as have been proved by probability theory). Time factor is only relevant to humans because we have a limited life span on this earth, so a million or 100 million years seem too much for us, for Creator it could be twinkling of an eye, because His life is Endless.
Q-81 Random Mutation, Human and Ape Brains, How both evolved from same ancestors?
Ans. Here we go again….One small Random (Blind) Step at a time and leave the result to Natural Selection. Time and Blind Steps would solve every thing. It has been proven that even to arrange a simple card deck in ascending order, it would need 8 X 10 raised to the power 67 Seconds, if we go by random shuffling. But these Blind Followers of BTOE would not listen to any reason or logic. Starting from the same Ancestors, …. A. Using same Random Mutation / Natural Selection / Same Time period…. Humans developed much more complex brains …. B. Yet using the same techniques and same time period and same ancestors….apes developed a different brain and chimps developed a separate brain… It only shows that once you are a Blind Follower of Blind Theory of Evolution… You will find any logic to justify your position.
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Have you ever discussed with people worshipping stone idols as gods? Or those worshipping Cows? Or those believing that God Begot a Son? They would also give same weird logic as we see from these Blind Followers of BTOE.. So for BTOE Followers… Long live BTOE…. Long Live Random Mutations … Long Live Natural Selection…Long Live Charles Darwin and Charles Chaplin and Charles Dickens and Prince Charles….OOPS… sorry folks, I got a bit carried away Down with ID Designers….. Down with those who believe in God…. Down with those who say that Human life has a purpose….Down with those who say that we will be judged according to our actions… Here lies the real believing power of Human Brain… It can believe day is Night and Night is Day… It can Worship Cow, Sun, and Moon….yet Reject the Worship of one who Created Cow, sun and moon and every thing in this Universe.
Q-82 Random Truth, Are Mutations really random?
Ans. If you see from a tree’s point of view, all the diggings and planting of different seeds, then pruning here and there seem like acts happening by themselves and without any planning. But from the gardener point to view, each such action has a purpose and design behind it. The same is the case with Mutation. On a micro level, people think that these are just happening randomly and there is no purpose of logic behind it. But seeing from a macro point of view, each such mutation has a purpose and there is a set direction. The limitation of our knowledge and against Creator. thinking can not be an argument
The people should see that Universe and how well it is running, does it ever needs and help from human beings? How could it all be working like a clock work, without a Super brain and Super Intelligence behind it.
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Those who close their mind to these realities become Fanatic Followers of Blind Theory of Evolution.
Q-83, Random Mutation, Pack of Cards, Is it a correct example?
Ans. Some one on this thread mentioned that by shuffling a pack of cards, we can our self create a random sequence. Such people consider themselves super intelligent and reasonable, while on some other thread, the same people try to convince that there are several god, one for each nation / race and these separate gods have sent separate religions for their people. These people fail to realize that randomness is the end result, it is not the randomness, but the product and the out coming order which is what is required. The shuffling card deck does not produce anything and has no effect whatsoever on the life and actions on this earth. However if he wants to persist with the card deck, then let him calculate what is the probability that after shuffling of cards, the end result will be: A. All the aces would arrange one after the other, followed by two s, three s and ending with kings? B. All cards of Spades would arrange in serial order 1,2, 3 …. Followed by those of Hearts, Diamonds and Clubs? The more appropriate example is Computer Program, which to an outsider looks like random sequences of 1 s and 0 s. These Computer Programs sometime contain millions upon millions of 1 s and 0 s, but ask any Computer Programmer, if even one bit of them is really by random chance? You take hundreds and thousands of 1 s and 0 s and shuffle them in any way you like, what is the probability or possibility that even the simplest of computer program would come out? What is the possibility or probability that a computer program like Windows would come out by just shuffling a large string of 1 s and 0 s?
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Genetic codes and DNA s are in no way less complicated than Windows by any standard. But we do not believe that Windows Program can be randomly generated, on the other hand Genetic codes, DNA and all creations just came as a result of random mutation. And still, it is such people who should be considered as logical and reasonable and scientific.
Q-84 Science Limitations, What is scope of Science?
Ans. Yes, science has no bias, but the scientists have. They try to interpret the scientific data with their own theories and camouflage the real evidence. Science has limitations, it only deals with How, it has no answer for Why? It needs guidance from others on why? That is where religions come, they answer the questions why? The Question How is as important as Why. That is why Science and religion should co-exist and not be antagonistic to each other. Some how zealous followers on both side, have created a gulf between the two and they try their utmost to widen this gulf. In fact they should try to shorten and fill that gulf. Now coming to our point of discussion: Scientists have no proof that life originated by Chance. They just assume it, because they do not want to believe in any Creator. If we say about any other thing that it created itself, they would never believe it. If the life can be created by chance, so could those pictures on cave walls too, but no one would even for one second believe that any picture can come there by chance.. No proof was ever presented that life started by chance; there is not a single complete record of evolution of one specie into another. There are millions of missing links in each specie’ supposed evolution , but we are forced to accept it as a Scientific Theory of Evolution. To call this BTOE as scientific is in real sense insult of Science itself. No Transitional life forms have ever been found. What is found are fully working model of another specie.
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Transitional life form means, Giraffes gradually increasing their neck sizes, Intermediate between Birds and Reptiles. Half formed legs and wings and millions of such forms. There is no data of that in fossil records, whereas the evidence is overwhelming in that new species suddenly appear into the world and old specie die out. All the so called Human Evolution Stages are nothing but artists imaginations and a few teeth or bones. As a scientists it would have been much better if they could have waited before pronouncing their judgment. I do not know how the information that humans and apes evolved from a common ancestor millions of years ago, would solve any of present day medical problems? The truth should be kept away from imagination. And the truth is that This Universe did not come by itself. It has a powerful knowledgeable and merciful Creator at the back of it. With this fundamental truth in your mind, it is immaterial how much you analyze the available information in this Universe, it would never lead you into error. But if you close your eye to this truth and make yourself Blind, then you would become Blind Follower of this Blind Theory. There would be no design, no plan, no purpose of anything in this Universe. It came there by chance, we are here by chance and we die by chance. You can take your choice. There is no compulsion on any one. But belief in Creator is as Scientific or As unscientific as Denying His Presence. As a true scientist you should remain neutral. But can any one remain neutral in this debate? Go thru the criticism they heap on me and you would realize. Have a nice day.
Q-85 Survival of Fittest, Truth, Is Survival of Fittest proven by TOE?
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Ans. Survival of Fittest or Survival of Dumbest? Hello My friends out there,!! I mean those that are firm believers in BTOE, shout day in and day out, till their voices crock that this BTOE is all about survival of the fittest. The species that are not fit to survive become extinct and only those that are fit are left to continue. And that has been the main driving force for all this fashion of Evolution. On the outside it looks very reasonable, but as is mostly true, that a theory which seems most logical and most reasonable, might not be true. So let us analyze this hypothesis from the very starting. It is always best to start from the Beginning (I like it personally), so let us go back to those early days, a few billion years ago, when some how and some where the first self-replicate cell, got there by chance or by happy coincidence or by whatever reasons. That single cell creature continued to multiply. Who were its predators? Where was the driving force for it to evolve into something fitter? The single cell organizations survive to this day and with impunity!! Their needs are simple, they are almost invisible to most of predators. So they did not evolve at all. They might have made slight adaptation here and there. In Evolution terms, they were the dumbest and idlers and they proved fittest to survive!!! Those smart guys of single cell creatures, who tried to evolve into more complex forms, in the end were real suckers. Because they went into a never ending race to evolve into fitter and fitter forms, almost all of the earliest species became extinct, their modern counter parts have very little resemblance to their original parents. So what did they achieve by growing into more complex life forms? To become least fit to survive. Those who evolved into monsters, were the most foolish of the lot, because they had to eat more and more to live and in the end, least fit to survive any calamity. So it does not make any sense to believe that this evolution theory proves survival of fittest. May be only this Blind Theory Of Evolution
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can Justify this Blind Rush to evolve into more complex (and less fit) life forms. All this evolution theory had some sense, before man reached this earth, after man’s arrival, none of the specie is fit to survive. Only those species will survive, that are fortunate to survive. Man in his hunt to become fitter to survive, is wiping out the eco system, so no one else can survive except him. The time period is too short in evolution terms to change, with the speed that man is changing the eco system. All in all this Survival of Fittest theory is nothing but hot air, which is sucked in as Pure Oxygen by those Dumb Believers of this Dumb BTOE? Now who amongst you would raise his hands to be counted as Dumb Believers in this Dumb BTOE?
Q-86 Teaching, High School, Should evolution be taught at HS?
Ans. Check how many postings pertain to the Topic should evolution be taught at HS? Not even 5 %, rest all others are on other topic. The Title of topic is just to start a thread, then it spreads into different directions. The question should Evolution be taught in HS was answered long back by me. T wrote that it should be taught along with fiction, drama and other non scientific subjects. If it is taught as a branch of science and biology, then it should be clearly told that most of this is pure guess work and we still do not have sufficient data to prove any thing. As a scientist you should be honest and do not add your wishes or thoughts on the observed facts.
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Q-87 Teaching , HS, Should it be taught?
Ans. I also wish to thank you for your noble sentiments. We might not agree, but we always should be civil to each other. That is the thing which I find lacking on these threads. These people claim to be champions of freedom of thoughts and freedom of expression, but the moment you post some thing which is against their own views, they jump at you, they try to shout you down, they ridicule you, call you names, question your background, your education, and every thing….forgetting that they could also be under the same microscope. I am not here for any personal gain or any recognition. That is why I seldom respond in the same tone (quite frankly, I am not capable also, I have been taught to speak and discuss civilly with others). So now I do not address my posts to any one in particular, so that they be not offended personally. On the subject where Evolution should be taught in High School, I commented in my first post, that is should not be taught as a Scientific Theory, but only as an opinion, and it should be clarified that for most of which it claims there are no actual proofs. You should not cloud the minds of High School Students with personal opinions of some biased people. Having said so, I wish you Good By…May be we cross our paths on some other thread… Have a nice day and Best Wishes from me.
Q-88 TOE, Creator, Some points
Ans. . There is Quranic prohibition in typing on this thread. This is a strange allegation. Quran asks us to reason and logic with others who are ignorant about its message it says "Invite (all) to the way of your Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching: and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: for your Lord knows best who have strayed from His path and who receive guidance" (16:126)
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But it also says that "When ignorant people quarrel with them they say "Peace" (and stay away from further arguments)" 25:63 That is the policy I adopt. When some one tries to argue with me in civil terms, I continue. However those who use abusive language or we have reached a dead end with them for those I do not post direct replies. 4. Science should not start with an Agenda to prove it, It should only gather data and then try to explain it. That is right, science has a limited field and it should only work in that. On other issues it should remain neutral and should not pass any comment. On the subject of Creator, it should say that it seems logical and reasonable, but we have no material data to confirm or reject it. The subject is outside our scope. The same it should say about Life after death and purpose of life on this earth. These issues are resolved by logics and reasoning and not physical evidences. But we find so called Pseudo Scientists being the First to CONFIRM that there is no Creator. They are the First to CONFIRM that there is no life after death. They are First to CONFIRM that there is no purpose of life and that we are not answerable to our deeds.. Issues on which a True Scientist should keep quite these Pseudo Scientists are most eager to register their votes in the negative. That is tragedy of our time, the Pseudo Scientists are controlling the scientific world, the Pseudo Religionists are controlling the religious world. The War Mongers are incharge of Peace Missions. The most corrupt are moral defunct people are Members of Parliament, Legislative Assemblies, Ministers, Prime Ministers, Presidents and CEO s of MNC s. Majority population of world who are simple peace loving people are like virtual slaves in the hands of these crooks.
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Q-89 TOE, Creator, Some points
Ans. TOE has no link with Creation of Universe.
This is a very wrong hypothesis. Every true theory must be in line and prove or support other theory. No two true theories would contradict each other. It cannot be true, that there could be a Creator for Universe but Earth and its life has nothing to do with that Creator. Earth is part of this universe. If the Universe was planned then earth and every thing on this earth must also been planned and designed. 2. How it matters if there be a Creator or not, It will not affect our studies in any way. A. The starting point of any hypothesis is the most important. It must be correct otherwise the whole theory made upon it shall be wrong. It is like a base or foundation for a building. If the foundation is strong and level, the building shall be strong and level otherwise it would be shifty and crooked. B. So the question whether a Creator exists or not is of fundamental importance and must be tackled in the beginning itself. C. Those who start with hypothesis that there is no Creator, would feel themselves free from all responsibilities, they would feel that there is no purpose of this life, there is no aim, we just happened to be here by chance and we will just vanish like we came. What one does on this earth bears no consequences when one dies. Hitler and those 6 Million Jews whom he incinerated just went the same way. So this approach creates a type of Moral anarchy on this earth and in the lives of these people. These are the people who would support each and every type of moral digression on this earth. They would like to live their lives as any animal lives. Eat, Drink and Enjoy while you are alive. C1. While those who start with assumption that there is Creator, would try to look for purpose and guidance from their Creator. For them the life has a higher purpose and they are answerable to their Creator.
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They would try to live their lives with morality and following guidance received from their Creator. C3. So the approaches of these two people on this earth will be totally different. One would feel that he is like any other animal, and the other would think that he is not like any other animal but a responsible animal. He is answerable to a higher authority.
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Chapter-4 Hinduism and Homosexuality Q-90 Hindu, Caste Reformation, Is it possible to remove caste from Hinduism?
Ans. You have raised so many points, I neither have time nor inclination to answer all of them, I would only touch most important of them. A. Comparing RSS with KKK: 1. I sincerely apologize for comparing RSS with KKK; in fact there is no comparison at all. RSS has more innocent blood on its hand than KKK could ever have. 2. The number of victims in Gujarat alone would be more than KKK could ever have had in its entire life. If you add number of innocent victims since inception of RSS, it would be thousands times more than KKK. 3. KKK at best is a group of Hooligans; they just act on the basis of extreme racism. RSS on the other hand pollutes the minds of millions of Indians by their literature, their thousands of daily SHAKHAS and by the media power. 4. KKK could never enter into main line politics of USA, whereas RSS is able to do so thru their puppet BJP. 5. RSS has done more harm to India than KKK could ever do for USA. If RSS succeeds in its aims, they would be the main reason for breakup of India. B. Caste System and Hinduism: 1. I read with interest, your post on caste system in India and efforts done by Hindu reformers to eradicate it. 2. I do not want to belittle their efforts, but let me say, that they were not able to remove it. Caste based politics is norm in India rather than exception.
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3. There are thousands of caste related crimes in India every day, some of them are reported in press and majority of them is not even reported. 4. The root of caste system is in Hinduism itself. Vedas and Bhagwat Gita divide Hindus into four castes. Whatever way you try, you cannot remove caste from Hinduism. 5. All of these reformers failed, because they did not attack the origin of caste system. They tried to find a simple quick fix type of solution for this caste system and it only provided temporarily relief. 6. Brahma Kumari and such movements are too small and too insignificant to make an impact on huge Hindu society of India. 7. The Hindus who converted to Islam and Christianity brought the virus of caste system to Islam and Christianity also. Indian Muslims and Indian Christians have also been divided into castes in India. This is totally different from Indians and Christians of outside India. That is why RSS and similar organizations, recognize that they cannot unite Hindus on any positive issue, The best way is to unite them against Muslims and that too for what they did to Hindus many centuries before!! No proof needed and no arguments required; charged and convicted as accused. If Muslims cite the cases of thousands of Mosques razed to ground since independence, they are referred back to those temples which were supposed to have been damaged by the ancestors of Muslims. Head you loose and tails I win.
Q-91 Hindu Dharma, Hinduism, What is Hindu Dharma?
Ans. You confirm what I wrote , that the word Hindu and Hinduism are not found in old Indian literature. These are names given by others…. But my point is: Why have Indians accepted these foreign given names and still call themselves Hindus and their religion as Hinduism? Who is forcing them?
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You are confused about the word “Sanatan Dharma” it only means “Old Dharma” or “Old Religion”. Dharma is same as way of life or religion, DEEN in Arabic. Vedic Dharma is another term, which means Vedic religion or Vedic way of life. It is very strange that in Ancient India, people did not have name for their religion? What is your proof for this assertion?
Q-92 Hindu Dharma, Truth, What is Dharma?
Ans. You are getting emotional and going round the circle just to say something against me. I said that Dharma is another term of Way of Life, which is called Deen in Arabic. I said that Old India religion is known by either Sanatan Dharma or Vedic religion. Sanatan Dhrama means Old religion or True religion. If Muslims called you Hindus, then how come you accepted that word for you and call yourself Hindus. British tried to name us Mohammedans, but we rejected that term and came back to Islam and Muslims. Where did I say that all religions started from Abraham? I said God sent messengers to all nations, He also sent his books to all nations and in all languages. The books contained the same message as regards Unity of God, Day of Judgment and personal accountability for individuals. Then the fundamentals of worship, prayer, fasting, charity and pilgrimage were also same. And you find the same in Hindu ancient scripture. If you think that Vedas have not been corrupted in all these centuries, then the proof is on you and not on us. You have to provide the unbroken chain of narrators from beginning to end. We have these chains for Quran and prophetic sayings.
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Islam is more broadminded than any other religion to accommodate so many different religions. What is your ideas, how these different religions originated and how to explain the similarities and differences between them?
Q-93 Hindu, RSS, How can India progress?
Ans. I thank you for your sensible post. I appreciate your spirit. If India has to progress as a nation, all elements of its population should progress alongside. If any group or Community is left behind, that portion of India shall lag behind. Every community has contributed in the Growth of India and brought it to its present stage. There are groups in India (both in Hindus and Muslims) who want to disrupt that. But Muslims have genuine complaints, which no one hears. The media has a bias in favor of RSS, and that is why they have no forum to rent their feeling. PS: I am aware that someone hijacked your Pen Name and is posting abusive posts. No decent man would like to read and even try to comment on these. They look like an open sewer and the people who write such posts are no better. I do not comment on such posts, because there is nothing to comment on them
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Q-94 Hindu, SC , ST , Is Reservation policy OK?
Ans. It is good that you have resolved to abstain from religious debates on this thread. With your knowledge and your belligerent attitude, it was getting counter productive. Now coming to SC and ST reservation issue, in my view the whole reservation policy is wrong. There should not be any reservation at all in India. Instead there should be special coaching schools to teach those poor SC and ST people, so that they could compete with other people. But that was a hard work and people with real dedication were required to do the teaching. So the Indians choose for the easiest path of reservation rather than to really teach and bring up these downtrodden people. The Idea of reservation was a ploy to keep these SC s and ST s under the fold of Hinduism, otherwise they would have converted to Christianity or Islam in mass, thereby bringing Hindus in minority. That faulty solution continues to be implemented in India, because now, it has become so strong that no party can abolish it. They keep on increasing the reservation percentage year by year. I think a time will come when jobs in India would be reserved as per the population of each group. What it will bode for India , time will tell.
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Q-95 Hindu Muslim Relations, Root cause of Hindu Muslim rift in India?
Ans. I have a short answer to your lengthy posts... Let Milk in your name remain white and pure...it should not get a Saffron hue!! Only then you will justify your pen name... I am an Indian and I also have many Hindu friends. I have nothing against majority of Hindus and that I told in my first post itself. Most of Indians (Hindu, Muslim, Sikh, Christians etc) are peace loving. They do respect and get along with each other. They lived for centuries together. There was no mass scale riots of fights amongst these people (despite political fights, which were order of day, and were there between Hindus and Hindus, and between Muslims and Muslims too)... It changed when British got their foot hold in India. They were small in numbers...so the only way for them was that Hindus and Muslims should not remain united... That is why they started this practice of divide and rule...inciting Hindus against so called misdeeds of past Muslim rulers. Read history books of pre British periods...they would describe these wars and fights without any religious bias... RSS picked up that seed from British and have made it into a Huge Tree....but the fruits of every ill tree would be evil....and that what we see in forms of so many thousands of riots every year in India. How could I condemn all Hindus of India when they do not know the real reason about this hatred.
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Q-96 Hindu Muslim Relations, Are Hindu Racist?
Ans. See the two responses from two different outlooks. One of them want to take Revenge as to what was done many centuries ago. That is RSS philosophy...supposed crime was done by someone else ...but you want the present generation top pay the price. That is the racist, and Extremist attitude and it is the philosophy of RSS and its allies. They are free to do any crime against Muslims and blame Muslims for what their ancestors did. They do not think in what color they are painting their own forefathers, as cowards who could not defend themselves!! Now Dread is more reasonable, blaming a few Hindus for having those extreme attitudes. That is a right attitude, because majority of Hindus are peace loving people and they want to live in peace. There is a minority of people having racist and extremist viewpoints, who cause all these riots. If India is to survive and progress as a nation, then these extremists elements must be identified and isolated. What you said about Hindus is equally true fro Muslims also. Majority of Muslims are also peace loving and there would be a minority with extremist view points. But when we consider other people, we want to bracket majority of them with extremism and use other way round for our own people. We should be using same standards for every one. Should we not?
Q-97 Hindu, Muslim Rule, Did Muslims persecuted Hindus?
Ans. You can drive any inference from any historical fact.
For example it is a fact that Indian soldiers destroyed the Golden Temple in Amritsar in 1984. If some one does not know the actual background...after say 200 years it could be said that Hindus damaged Sikh's holiest shrine in 1984.
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What were the actual reasons when those temples were destroyed, we do not know. They would have been used as a storage place for arms or for taking refuge from the conflict. If Muslims wanted to destroy Hindu temples as a policy, no Hindu temple would have been left intact in 700 odd years. Same Aurangzeb and Same Tipu gave grants to many temples and religious places of Hindus. So we should always be unbiased in our views when citing historical examples. Misuse of history is one tactic which RSS uses to cloud the minds of common Hindus. people do not know the real background of each event. For example, they say that Muslims converted millions of Hindus by force to Islam, It looks very easy way out and very sentimental too. They fail to realize why even now in India , Hindus are accepting Islam, the conversion has never ended. When Muslims came to India, Hindu society was extremely caste based, there was oppression of low caste people and they had no way out. Why they could or should not have converted to Islam in mass seeing a way out from their predicament. It seems logical and it seems true also, because majority of Indian Muslims are those who work with their hands. When Islam rejects conversion by force and not to damage the religious structures of other people, why fanatical Muslims would break the command of Allah to gain what? Now we have seen with our own eyes demolition of Babri Masjid in 1992, was there any tangible proof that it was constructed there by demolishing a Ram Temple? If there would have been any real proof, the court would have decided the issue many decades back. The issue is kept pending in courts because there is no real proof.
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And you have cheek to start your post, that it is not against present day Muslims.
Q- 98 Hindu Religion, Oldest, Are Vedas preserved properly?
Ans. Thank you for explaining what is Hindu religion and its principles. The question was what the Oldest religion is and what was its name? The religion of Vedic people was not Hinduism, please tell us what was the name of that religion and what it meant? It is only your wishful thinking that you recite Vedas exactly as it was done 5000 years ago, it is a claim for which there is no proof. There should be an unbroken chain or witnesses (as we have for Quran going back 1400 years) to trace the authenticity of claim. Just by making any claim, it would not become true. There are Hindu Scholars who say, that in the beginning there was only one Veda…it was later enlarged into four Vedas.
Q- 99 Hindu , RSS Ideology, What it is?
Ans. I am not writing this to hurt or marginalize any religion or any religious group. The fact is in India we can find followers of almost all type of religions. There is hardly ay religion whose followers are not living in India. Despite all its faults, that is the beauty of India and its culture. For most of time these religious groups have been living peacefully in India and have dealings with each other. But Judaism and Christianity never had big followings in India. Jews following their racial policy, never propagated their faiths to the "unclean gentile Indians".
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Christianity did came to India very early, but only had marginal presence in Kerala, which at that time was the gate way to India as most of trade was done from that point. Christianity got a boost when Europeans came and occupied parts of India. But even under supreme rule of Europeans , not many people accepted Christianity. Only "Foreign" religion which had lasting impact on India was Islam, which came first to Kerala (thru traders) and then to Northern India thru Afghanistan route. Muslims made India their home and never treated it as a colony. They propagated their religion and majority of Indian Muslims are actually ethnic Indians who came into fold of Islam. Enemies of Islam would say that people were forcefully converted to Islam, but that does not hold much water. Most of Buddhists and low caste people came into fold of Islam to save them from persecution of high caste Hindus. In a couple of centuries, Muslims (I mean combined strength of Muslims in India, Pakistan and Bangladesh) reached almost 30-40 % of Indian population. This feat was not achieved by any other religion, Judaism, Sikhism or Christianity in India. It is true that once India was a majority Buddhist country, but that religion was rooted out from India and now most of Buddhists are found in countries that are neighboring India, like Sri Lanka, Burma, China, Indo China , Japan, Korea etc. The RSS group in India is mostly active Against Muslims because Christianity and Judaism do not affect most of Indians and their passions. That is why we see so many Anti Muslim riots in India which are more than total riots taking place anywhere in the world. RSS ploy is to keep Indian Hindus united, because you can only unite people on negative points in India. There is hardly any positive point in Hinduism that can unite them as a group. That is why RSS has chosen Anti Muslim stand as their plank.
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They sugar it with catch phrases like "Nationalism", "Patriotism" and the current catch phrase "Hindutva". These are terms that are vague and can be twisted and turned to derive any meaning you want them to mean. RSS are masters of double talk and Mr. Advani and his dual talk is the best example of this trick. Watch Mr. Advani derive different meanings from same words, to suit the situation he finds himself in. Perhaps that was the reason he did not win Election Majority in both elections of 2004 and 2009.
Q- 100 Hindu Unity, Is RSS uniting Hindus?
Ans. They THINK that they are uniting. What actually happens is that the Monster overgrows and becomes the problem for the society. The falsehood never grows, it stays for some time and then it is rejected by people, but it causes much harm to society and people in the mean time. This is the case of Nazi Party, KKK and likes, Hate mongers and trying to unite Majority against a Minority
Q 101 Hindu, Sanatan Dharma, Is Sanatan Dhrama same as Hinduism?
Ans. You call in “Eternal religion” or “Only Religion” or “True Religion” or “Perpetual religion”, I do not care. But that Santan Dharma was not the present day Hinduism or any of its variants. In Sanatan Dhrama of ancient times: 1. There were not many gods and goddesses, neither were there stone idols or pictures, there was only one True God, the Creator, The Sustainer and the Destroyer. 2. Humanity was not divided into Four Castes with varying degrees of inequality. Female child was not looked with disdain 3. There was no concept of Creator or God taking human form and live among humans like a man.
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4. There was no concept of what we call to day as “Ava Gaman” i.e. transmigration of human soul into another life form. 5. The religion instructed worship of one God, singing hymn in His praises, prayers, fasting, alms giving, going for pilgrimage. Respecting parents, teachers and elders, showing kindness to children and young. 6. The religion allowed eating of good and healthy food of both vegetarian and non vegetarian variety. There were punishments prescribed for different crimes to free the society from criminals. I do not care with what name you call that in Sanskrit, that was Islam in Sanskrit… the Only True religion of God , Eternal Religion. Later generations introduced all forms of their own philosophies and practices into the Sanatan Dharma and we have the present Hinduism as a corrupted version of that Old Sanatan Dharma. So either we purify Modern Day Hinduism to that Sanatan Dharma or choose an already working model, which is very close to that Sanatan Dharma incorporating all of which I wrote above. The choice is for you and other Indians to make. Talking of Sanskrit Quotations, look at these : “Tamso ma Joytir Gamaya” (I.e. lead us from Darkness to Light). “Asdo ma Satya Gamaya” (I.e. Lead us from falsehood to truth). These are powerful prayers to Lord the Creator of Universe, if One is sincere, he or she will get what they prayed for. PS: Hindu Woman seems to be catching your virus. Her posts are increasing in length and she wants to answer your every post. But as I said, this is matter between you and her. Both of you seem to have lots and lots of spare time
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Q- 102 Hinduism , Dialog, Vedas and Gita, What are authorities of each scripture?
Ans. First you have to understand, what are the authorities of every scripture. As per my knowledge of Hinduism, the Vedas are supreme authority in Hinduism. No other book can cancel or abrogate teachings of Vedas. As per my knowledge, as per Vedas: 1. No Idol worship is allowed. Havans and Yagnas are the type of rituals allowed there. 2. Meat eating, meat offering, even cow slaughter is not banned in Vedas and during Vedic times. How can there come some books after Vedas allowing Idol Worship and ban eating of meat and banning cow slaughter. You have to identify these sources and how could they abrogate teachings of Vedas. The same goes for Gita also, who wrote it and what was his authority? Just because some philosophy looks pleasant to our ears and seems reasonable does not mean that it is true or it is from God. The books of Puranas, Upnishads and Mahabharta and Ramayan and all others are subject to Vedas and cannot prescribe any practice or mode of worship that is against Vedic teachings. And I think that was the stand of Arya Samaj and its leaders like Dayanand Saraswati and Swami Vivekananda and other thinkers. It was very interesting for you to say that I should read Gita and that will not make me a Hindu. Can you define for me who is a Hindu? All of your scholars have been searching for a definition as to how to define who is Hindu? I started reading discourses on Gita by famed Swami Chinmayananda, In his introduction he said that Ramayana and Mahabharta are epics, i.e. imaginary or allegorical writings and not historical events. I was impressed by his sincerity.
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Then I saw that he became the Vice President of Ram Janambhomi Liberation committee, vowing to rebuilt the Ram temple at his birth place, his duplicity amazed me. The guy says that Ramayana is an epic an allegorical story and then he heads agitation to re-built Ram Temple at his Birthplace!! Believe me, that is the dilemma of most of your learned Hindu Scholars. They read in Veda that Idol worship is not allowed, then they come and justify idol worship by masses under one excuse or other. To be a true Hindu, you must arrange your books in order of authority, otherwise Hinduism would be a form of Pantheism as it has become.
Q 103, Hinduism, Gods, Many, What is Hindu Phiilosophy?
Ans. You are right, I have not read Hindu Philosophy, but as an Indian I have seen all those temples filled with Idols of all kind. We hear every day on TV, Films, Serials the tenets of Hindu Mythology. We are told that there are many gods and each does his job, foe example: Brahma; He Creates Vishnu: He sustains Shankar: He destroys Indra: He Brings rains Lakhsmi: She brings wealth Saraswati: She is goddess of learning Like that there are thousands of gods each doing his or her job. Then these gods marry and have sons and daughters and then each of these sons and daughters become god of one department. Then we have human gods like Rama, Krishna, Hanuman and so many. There is hardly any village which does not have statue of these. And you come here and talk about Gita, Upanishad and Veda. Your priests allowed the common people to fall into the errors of Idol worship and they themselves kept for themselves those philosophies.
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You first correct the common folks and not scholars.
Q 104 Homo, Birth Control, Is this enough?
Ans. I must state that child birth is not the sole issue for restricting this Homosexual behaviour. This could be one reason, but the real issue is sexual morality and stop unnatural sexual practice. To decide as to how many children each family should have, is a decision that should be left to the family itself. There are many couples, who in spite of trying every thing to get a child are not able to. The birth of human baby is not entirely in our hands. Marriage and normal sexual relations is the best means to get a child. The way western society is patronizing homosexuality, it seems that it is the most important issue in their society and all other issues are secondary. You can yourself see, emotions flying to the extreme on this thread itself.
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Q 105 Homo Birth Control, Nature, Is Homo Birth control?
Ans. I am yet to understand are you supporting Homosexuals or are against it? For record purposes I am a Muslim and our religion and our society is totally against it. To say that Homosexuality is a form of Birth control by nature is very strange. There are many types of people in this world, there are those who are not interested in marriage, then there are those who do not want any children, then there are some who want only one or two maximum and then there are those who want more. In such a complicated situation to say that one particular type of behavior is nature’s way of population control is not correct. The homo couple in fact damage four members of the society, the couples themselves and their would be spouses and their future generation. This is a social crime of sort. There are people who have strange desires and fantasies, the society does not allow every one to act on these desires and fantasies. The same is the case with Homos also. If some one has a natural urge , he or she should control it to the maximum, otherwise the act should be done as any other type of abnormal behavior is done. But in the case of Homo, it is projected as a very natural act. The term Heterosexual and Homosexuals are invented, so as to show as if they are on equal footing. When you use such standards, the number of homos are going to rise and it would reach to such a level that you will not be able to control it any longer. If you go against nature, the results are slow but they are very serious and many times irrevocable.
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Q 106 Homo, Existence, All societies, Are they Normal?
Ans. There have been cheats, liars, murderers, fornicators and adulteress thru out human history. So is it normal to treat them also as Normal and have no punishment for them. In fact every type of sexual perversion has been present in all human civilizations. But for any society to prosper and continue the perverts must be discouraged and kept to minimum possible level. This spurt in favor of Homosexuals is harmful for the society and would result in its moral digression. And that is the point which Majority of Californians have decided. Even if they would decide against it, it will still be a sexual perversion and Homos will always be sexual perverts.
Q107 Homo, Minority, Why should it be suppressed?
Ans. I agree that at present Homos may not be the dominant factor in the population decline in Western countries…. But they have their contribution in that too… If there is any trend in a society that is harmful in the end, it is better to discourage it when it is starting, otherwise it would be very difficult to control when it becomes big… The current trend in Western society is to encourage or tolerate any thing and every thing that is against morality…. And we see the same attitude towards homo also. Actually speaking society and its intelligentsia should try to promote good morality and curb or speak against every thing which is immoral. What we see is exact opposite, every body is trying to defend immorality and speaking against morality.
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Q-108 Homo, Justification, Is it Normal?
Ans. I liked you post, in support of Homo behavior. You may not know it, but according to Islam, God did send His prophets and books to all nations and in all ages. Only Jewish prophets are mentioned by names and names of most of these prophets and books are not mentioned in Quran. As per Islam, religion send by God to all humankind was only one. All prophets preached same religion. Laws and prohibition for all religions must also be same. It is very illogical to say that God would allow Homosexuality in one part of the world and ban it in another. The examples you have mentioned (if indeed they are true) would then be like the deviant attitudes we have from modern day homosexuals. As per my information, major world religions, Judaism, Christianity, Islam and Hinduism all are against this Homosexuality and have punishment for that. It is not very unreasonable to deduce that if majority of any civilization are homosexuals, it would result in their downfall. If majority of any civilization do not marry or have children, it would collapse. This is common sense. If homosexuals now consist of a small minority, it does not mean that it would always be the same. The encouragement which is given by the society for this practice would result in it being the thing of ‘fashion’ shortly. You can see that by ever increasing the number of participations in so called ‘gay and lesbian’ parades. I do not want to condemn any one in particular, but this practice is not for the benefit of society at large. It does not need encouragement by the society. Like any evil, it should stay in the background and underground and at the lowest level.
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Q -109 Homo, Justification, Is it justified?
Ans. It is heartening to see so many people speak out against homosexuality and that too loud and clear and without mincing words. Usually it were the Homosexuals who were shouting with their Type of Voice, shouting and insulting every one who disagreed with them. Now it is clear, the majority of people of CA are against this practice, they do not want these weirdoes to be labeled and bracketed with them. They do want proper marriage forms (Not scary Party-A and Party-B stuff), and they want to place Homosexuality where it belongs, to the perversion side of sexual behavior. The reasons may be religious, the reasons may be medical, the reasons may be social. but one thing is certain...Homosexuality is not same as Normal Sexual desire. So long these weirdoes were trying to convince that black is white....no black is black and white is white. I am sure that very soon American people would ban this homosexuality and introduce punishment for anyone doing this openly. Other states would follow the example set by California.
Q 110 Homo , Normal Behavior, What is Normal behavior?
Ans. Some one said that how we define what is normal and what is not. Before I answer that question, let me ask some questions: 1. Is it "Normal" to walk with feet? What would you say to a man who walks on "Hand" ? Is he Normal or is He Freak? Can we make a separate lane for "Hand Walkers" as we do for "Feet Walkers"? 2. Is it "Normal" to eat with mouth? What would you say to a man who eats thru his nose? Is he Normal or is he freak? Would you make same arrangements in Restaurants for "Mouth Eaters" and "Nose Eaters"?
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3. Same thing can be said about using Nose, hands and other parts of the body too. The "Normal" behavior is what most people are used to and is designed by nature for making its best use of. 4. In the same way the term "Homosexuality" and Heterosexuality" are as wrong as "feet Walkers" and "Hand walkers". There words are coined by these people to confuse others and justify their own agenda. Sexual organs have been designed for use of opposite sexes. If a man is attracted to a woman it is as normal as eating by mouth or breathing by nose or walking on feet. When a man is attracted to a man or a woman to a woman, it is as weird and freakish as walking with hands and eating with nose. That is why society in all ages has been looking down and discouraging this practice. Not only religions but societies in general have been discouraging this attitude, because it is against the survival of human race. If 100 % people become Homosexual, the human race would end. Society can tolerate a small percentage of people doing this practice is the maximum they can think of, on the other hand their demands that they be treated at par with "Normal" people is totally wrong. I am happy to see people having their say freely against this practice.
Q 111 Homo, IMA justifies it?, Is it perversion?
Ans. What these associations say about other types of sexual perversions? Are they by choice or the person has no control over it? Even if certain acts are not as per choice of individual. the society has a right to stop these practices. There are many people with deformed thoughts and extreme views and these are not as per their choice... but we do stop them. That is the case of Homosexuality also... in west it is recognized at par with Normal Sexual relation and that is where it is wrong.
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For any healthy society, this practice should be discouraged, and it should stay at rock bottom value. Let me ask you one question...the numbers of homos are increasing in west or decreasing or are same since the time this homo movement has been recognized as "Normal". I know there has not been any death punishment for homo behaviour in west for many decades...then if that practice was as natural then as it is now...how come the their numbers are increasing? So the nature changes as per your thought process?
Q 112 Homo Numbers, Increase, What is truth
Ans. It is not the whole truth, that numbers of homos are increasing because now those people are coming out in open, who were hiding. The numbers are increasing because any perversion when encouraged by the society helps in its growth. Any one not wanting to contribute to the growth of society takes refuge by claiming that he is homo. This continuous rise in homo population would ultimately result is downfall of this civilization, as we have seen negative growth in many countries due to too much emphasis on family planning. Many European counties need immigration to continue their existence.
Q 113 Homo, Perversion, Should it be treated at par?
Ans. All in All this homosexuality is like a sexual perversion. Like all perversions it has been present thru out human history. Just because it has been present thru out all ages, does not mean that it should be taken as normal behaviour. It is not possible to remove homosexuality by force, none of the evil can be removed by force for that matter. But as society fights back with all types of perversion, it should not have a soft corner for them, but a negative attitude.
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The very idea to treat homosexuality at par with normal sexuality is monstrous. To treat their union as "Marriage" to give it legal protection, to change marriage forms (Party-A and Party-B stuff) was all illogical. I think they took silent majority of California and other states for a ride, until it blew over. I hope that homosexuality is put at the place where it belongs.....on the perversion side of sexual behaviour. Or the alternate solution is to screen them off in a leper like colony....the new colony could be named as New Sodom and New Gomorrah
Q-114 Homo, Perversion, Other types, What is the difference?
Ans. Thank for your separation of Homosexuality and other types of Sexual perversion under titles of Sexuality and Paraphilias. I respect what you have written, but there are many types of perversions which do not come under these categories and they are nor harmful at all to any one. But they are still looked down. Even if some people have homosexuality tendencies, for the growth of society and to preserve moral code, that practice has to be discouraged. What is happening is that "normal' people are asked to change their attitude and approach to accommodate these perverts. You are Wrong, when you say that number of homos will ultimately decrees in the long run. They would continue to grow till the society and its structure fall apart.
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Q 115 Homo, Religion, Opposition, Why every religion is against it?
Ans. Would you please point out where I was calling any one names and doing mud slinging. I was expressing my opinion of Homosexuality, as every one has right to do. I can call that practice a type of Sexual Perversion as my personal view. This is not calling any one names or mud slinging. I know that at present gay movement is not forcing you to becoming gay, because they are not strong enough, you will see their attitude when they grow strong enough. If any one can prove to me that Homosexuality is beneficial to the society in any way, then I will change my opinion. That is why every religion is against this practice… what else are religions that the moral way of living one’s life and have proper relation with our Creator. If religions do not speak against practices which are harmful to the society, then who will? At least this is one issue on which all religions have same or similar stand.
Q 116 Homo, Religion, Other religion, Are all religions against Homo?
Ans. I liked you post, in support of Homo behavior. You may not know it, but according to Islam, God did send His prophets and books to all nations and in all ages. Only Jewish prophets are mentioned by names and names of most of these prophets and books are not mentioned in Quran. As per Islam, religion send by God to all humankind was only one. All prophets preached same religion. Laws and prohibition for all religions must also be same. It is very illogical to say that God would allow Homosexuality in one part of the world and ban it in another. The examples you have mentioned (if indeed they are true) would then be like the deviant attitudes we have from modern day homosexuals.
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As per my information, major world religions, Judaism, Christianity, Islam and Hinduism all are against this Homosexuality and have punishment for that. It is not very unreasonable to deduce that if majority of any civilization are homosexuals, it would result in their downfall. If majority of any civilization do not marry or have children, it would collapse. This is common sense. If homosexuals now consist of a small minority, it does not mean that it would always be the same. The encouragement which is given by the society for this practice would result in it being the thing of ‘fashion’ shortly. You can see that by ever increasing the number of participations in so called ‘gay and lesbian’ parades. I do not want to condemn any one in particular, but this practice is not for the benefit of society at large. It does not need encouragement by the society. Like any evil, it should stay in the background and underground and at the lowest level.
Q 117 Homo Rights, Justification , Why Homo is harmful for the society?
Ans. I like your honest post and that part that you should be honest with yourself before being honest to others. After saying that, I say that freedom of individual is not absolute, it has got its limits. The limits can be put by Government, by society and also by religions. We do accept limits imposed by Government and society, but when it comes to religion, we feel that religion has no role in framing our lives. What else is religion but a relation between our Creator and ourselves. There are many issues on which our knowledge is imperfect and minimal, Our Creator can easily point out what would be the long term results of certain of our actions. That is how we see certain prohibitions in every religion. Sexual morality and sexual purity is one issue on which every religion agrees. For proper mental, spiritual and social upbringing of a child it
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is best, if it has two established parents that take care of him. There could be exceptions, but the general rule is that. Homo couple is a sort of deviation is any traditional family. A child brought up under such family will have a different notion of sexual purity and sexual morality than a normal child. These are basic things which need not to be elaborated. Just for argument sake we can keep on posting, but it would not help. The method adopted by our Creator for survival of human race is thru normal reproduction by husbands and wives thru a marriage tie. You break that tie and just use any male and any female for reproduction, it would have problem on the mental health and attitude of offspring. The end of every civilization is when they drop sexual morality and make it free for all. That is what we are seeing in the current western society. When West was leading the world , it was on every field. Now since the start of free sex and equal right to homos etc, you see their influence decreasing in every field day by day. To lead the world, you do need a very strong sexual morality. You may say, that I have no proof for much of what I have written, but if you are a student of rise and fall of human civilizations and try to analyze as to the reason of down fall of great civilizations of the past, you would find some truth in what I have written. So to consider Homo and Hetro on equal footing, would cause the ultimate downfall of your society and civilization. Even if you try to correct it at a later stage, you will not succeed. That is what is the real issue here.
Q 118 Homo, Society, Encouragement, Should it encourage it?
Ans. I do not want to make any comment to you personally. We are discussing on an issue. What I mean is that society should not encourage this practice since it is against morality and counter productive. However no one should pry into the privacy of others, so as to search and punish all those who are involved in the activity.
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That is the position of our religion; we do not spy and catch such type of people. What we ensure is that these activities are not carried out in open to tempt others and disturb the society. In western society, they are actually encouraging this practice, by telling every one that it is as natural as the normal sex activities. People perform these acts in public and there is no one to stop them. To do a bad thing is bad enough, but to do it openly and justify is many times bad. There are many bad things and bad practices happening in US and other societies. Homos may not be cause of all of these , but certainly they are not helping to increase the moral standards of society. Forgive me for being so plain in speaking, but I have to say the truth.
Q 119 Homosexuality, Issues, Issues, Do such marriages have fruits?
Ans. Are you really a male or female sir / madam? I was told that some of those homo couples will neither get a son or daughter, irrespective of how many years they wait. Irrespective of how many years one or both of them do not take bath or how many millions of time they bath every day. I am little confused on these matters, I must learn more....
Q 120 India , NRI s, Criticising India, Should NRI s criticize India Blindly?
Ans. Instead of Just Criticizing India, you should come and make it a better place. Just fleeing abroad is not the solution. Those who went for easy way out, should not criticize the way people struggle out in India. India does has it sets of problem, no one calls it a heaven on this earth, but it is the most livable place anywhere in the world.
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You can find both filthy rich and filthy poor here. You can find sky scrappers and slum huts side by side... India is a country of contrast.... That is why it attracted people from all over the world to have a pie of India. The British Empire was really dead when it went out of India. Population is not the basic problem with India, the moral corruption from top to bottom at every level is the real problem in India. It has very good and dedicated human resources. It is for some one t use it. What India needs is a really Good Leader, who is Indian by Heart, one who does not look benefits for his persons, his family, his caste, his state or his ethnic people, but about India. That would solve the problems we face in India. Chuck De India. It pains me to see Indians who migrated due to any reason criticising their own country and that too very harshly and not providing or trying for any solution to help it.
Q 121 Iran, Unrest, Is it Democratic?
Ans. You forget that Iran IS a Muslim country, and EVERY Muslim regards Quran as divine guidance. So calling MUSLIMS to live according to ISLAM is not a repression or torture. Islam is different from Christianity in this regard, because in Christianity people do not have LAWS governing all walks of life. In Islam guidelines are available for each walk of life. The West has always dual standards where Islam is concerned, In Same Iran, much bigger rallies have been taken out by the supporters of Ahmadinejad…but they ignore it and only show Anti Establishment rallies.
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In a democracy things have to be decided according to majority view point (if I got the meaning of democracy correctly), so the issue should be settled simply. People should have right to express their view points and there should be no restriction. But that does not mean to become violent and try to change some thing for show of force. I do not condone any crime committed by any one, irrespective of position he r she holds. But to Pre-judge some one is not correct in my view point. I do have theological differences with Iran and its regime, but I do not want to use it to gain unfair advantage in the present struggle.
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Chapter-5 Islam-1 Allah Q122 Allah, Baal, Is Allah derived from Baal?
Ans. This shows your ignorance of History of Arabia /Makkah at the time of our prophet. There are many names mentioned for the gods and idols which Makkan worshipped during that time. Baal is not so prominent amongst them. The Word Allah as Unique Creator of this Universe and every thing in it was known to them (There are many Quranic verses confirming that). How was it possible for the prophet to equate Allah with Baal? And how could he do that to Arabic speaking Jews and Christians living in Arabia? How come Jews and Christians are unable to find any equivalent to word Allah to denote God in past 1400 years? How come the word Allah is used many times in Arabic Bibles? Do Arabic speaking Jews and Christians worship a moon god / Baal in the disguise of Allah? Where your common sense disappears when you want to write any thing against Islam? If you want to reply to this post, please do it in one page!!
Q 123 Allah, Bible, Did Muslims put Allah in Bible?
Ans. Do you mean to say that it were Muslims who put the word Allah
in Arabic Bible in 9th Century? Was Bible translated into Arabic by Muslims?
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If Allah was a Pagan god, then why Quran asks those pagan people of Makkah, as to who is the Creator of Heavens and earth and every thing in it, who gives life and death and in whose hands are all affairs? They will surely say Allah. These are not the attributes of gods made of stone and wood and bronze. These are the attributes of One True Creator of this Universe. Which is called God in English...Yahweh in Hebrew and Allah in Arabic. We all worship the same God and same Lord...even if we stubbornly oppose each other in admitting it. There are not Two Creators of this Universe....there are not two Creators of human race...We are from same human pair of male and female. Why instead of coming to common ground and common terms, we are trying to put permanent gulf between ourselves?
Q 124 Allah, Forgetting, Does Allah Forgets?
Ans. No Allah never forgets, forgetting is an human weakness and
Allah is free from all weaknesses. Allah instructed in Quran for Muslims to pray, and He instructed people as to how to pray and show to Muslims. That was a much better and easier option than telling how to pray in book. Practical demonstrations are better than verbal descriptions in these matters. That is the Wisdom of Allah, the Almighty, the Wise, the Merciful, the Knower and Seer of all things.
Q 125 Allah, Pagan god, Did Makkan had idol of Allah in Kaaba?
1. Makkan people had more than 360 idols in Kaaba, the sanctuary built by prophet Abraham 1. None of that Idol was named Allah and Pagan people of Makkah never made any image or idol of Allah.
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2. They called their idols as intercessors or minor deities who would help them in worldly manner. 3. If Arabs know Allah to be Unique Creator of Universe, without having any physical form or without any of the materialistic needs, how does it matter if in Bible it was known by any other name? 4. Like English word God is used for Creator of this Universe, so it is same as Allah of Arabs or Jehovah or Yahweh of Jews or Elohim. 5. We should see the attributes of Allah and see do they correspond to what we find in Bible, if they tally, then it is futile to keep on arguing about it. 6. Since Arabic and Hebrew are sister languages, then Allah of Arabic has a phonetic equivalent in Hebrew that is EIL or ELI, which we find Jesus using as his final words before departing from this earth. 7. Therefore Allah was known to all Semitic prophets.
Q 126, Arabs, Backward, Are only Arabs and Muslims Backward?
Ans. You call yourself level headed but are full of national and racial
bias. Why so many African and South American and Asian countries are educationally backward even though they are Christians? Is Islam against getting education? Which is the country or civilization that became great and did not rule over other countries / people? Did Romans did not conquer other people? Did Persians or Assyrians did not conquered other people. How British Empire did became so great if it not conquered other land and other people. Almost all European nations had colonies outside their borders and because of that they became Great Powers. What else USA is doing to day, if not controlling economies of so many countries? Why should you only pick out Arabs and Muslims?
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Who started the practice of slavery in the word? Was it Arabs or was it Muslims? Did Jews ended slavery? Did Christians ended slavery in their 2000 years civilization? It was only in 1870 s that slavery was stopped. What about all those centuries that they dealt in slavery. Read what are Islamic laws about slaves and slavery and compare it with western laws on slaves and slavery even 200 years back. You are in no position to lecture us on morals, fair dealings and charity. America elected first Black President after more than 200 years, In Islamic nations so many slaves rose to the level of Kings and Caliphs that you cannot count them. How many slaves rose to reach the level of highest eminence of Islamic Scholarship, Islamic Jurisprudence and Islamic Education, you cannot count. What you have to show from western and Christian World? Barak Obama? How many Muslim countries have had women prime ministers and presidents in past few decades and how many Women Presidents you have had in USA for past 200 years? Just by choosing name Level Headed will not make you level headed. You have to remove the bias, and bigotry from inside your heart to be worthy of that name.
Q 127 Beliefs, Allah, Fundamentals of Faith
Ans. I had thought that you would welcome the opening given by me
and we will share more fundamentals of your faith and see how much we comply with it, but is seems you have some “impediment” even to share your religion with us and want to go slow or “one for me and one for you basis”. This could explain one of the reason why your faith is locked within your exclusive racial bounds and not shared universally with every one. I have no such qualms and would gladly share my religions fundamentals with every one who cares to listen to them.
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If you permit me, then I would continue to post these till they are finished (or my limited knowledge about Islam exhausts). The fundamental beliefs of our religion revolve around three basic pillars, Regarding God, regarding prophet hood and regarding the Last Day or Day of Judgment. I will start with our fundamental beliefs regarding God, some of these are: 1. The First and Foremost of our belief is that our God, whom we call upon as Allah is absolute Unity. He is alone and unique in this Universe. 2. Allah is Eternal and Absolute. He has no beginning and He shall have no end. Everything else in this Universe has had a beginning and shall have an end. 3. Allah is not Son of any Father and there is no Son or Daughter Begotten by Him. 4. There is nothing in Universe which is like Allah. We cannot compare Him to anything on this earth, or in heavens or in the seas. Therefore there is no image, idol, photo or idol of Allah. 5. Allah is the sole Creator of Universe and every thing in it. There is no other who has any part or portion in the Creation. There is no one who can claim true ownership of any part of the Universe, from smallest to the biggest part. 6. Allah is fashioned the whole Universe the way it is and He manages all its affairs without the help or assistance of any one. This task does not tire Him and for Him it is very Easy. 7. Allah has many attributes, some of whom are mentioned in His holy book and some might not have been mentioned. But Allah is absolutely Unique in His attributes and there must be no comparison if some words seem common between Allah ‘s attributes or some of His creations. 8. Allah s power and His knowledge is perfect and absolute. He knows of all past, present and future events and there is nothing in Universe which happens without His knowledge or against His will.
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9. Allah is living God and it is only He who has perfect life, life of other creations are imperfect and only exist on the Will and Wish of Allah. 10. Allah s attributes mentioned in Quran are many, like, Creator, Sustainer, Cherisher, Wise, Merciful, Oft Forgiving, Just, Irresistible, Loving, Almighty and many more. He has most beautiful names in many of the world’s languages. 11. Allah could be known in other languages of the world by other names, We should not dispute on names if the Personality and Attributes of that word matches with our concept of Allah (for example Jews and Christians basically worship the same Allah with different names). 12 Allah is the sole Creator of all Humans, all humans are from the same pair of Adam and Eve. Allah has divided humanity into different nations and tribes and linguistic and racial groups, so that they may recognize each other. 13. All humans are inherently created equal in the eyes of Allah. Per see there is no superiority of any racial, linguistic or national group over another. The basis of superiority is only based on God Consciousness and only Allah knows who is more God conscious. 14. Allah has sent human on this earth for test. He will judge each and every human being on the Last day as to what they did on this life. Those who did more good than evil shall be rewarded, those whose records of evil exceeds their good deeds shall face His wrath and punishment. 15. Allah is a Just God and never does even the slightest injustice, but His Mercy overshadows His Justice. He accepts the repentance of His Slaves and Servants whenever they turn back to Him. 16. Allah loves and commands all good deeds like, truth, justice, being kind to parents and kinfolks, acts of charity, feeding and helping poor and destitute and helping other humans in distress. 17. Allah does not like any bad deed or bad habits like telling lies, doing injustice, boasting, backbiting, miser ness, cheating in weights and measures, adultery, fornication, stealing, robbery, gambling and every other bad deed.
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18. Biggest sin in the eyes of Allah is worshipping false gods or associating any one else with the worship of Allah. The false gods could be in the shape of idols, or they could be heavenly bodies like sun, moon or stars. Or they could be honest servants of Allah like angels, prophets and righteous persons. 18A Allah may forgive all other sin but this sin He will not forget unless man makes sincere repentance during this life. 19 Love of Allah and Fear of Allah go hand in hand and therefore we are always between these two limits. Love and Mercy of Allah prompts us to believe that His will forgive our sins, but the fear of Allah and our own deeds prompts us to fear His displeasure. That is why we are humble people and we do not boast about our faith or our blessings. These are in short some of our Fundamental beliefs as regards to God. Let us hear from you how is Your HASHEM or Yahweh or ELOHIM or God is different from our concept of Allah (to be continued on demand)
Q 127A Beliefs, Allah, Fundamentals of Faith
Ans. Fundamentals of beliefs of Muslims on God (Contd. From last
post) 19A. In this World no one has ever seen Allah and no one can ever See Allah with these physical eyes. Any one who makes such claim is a liar straightforward. However in the next world, it would be possible to see Allah, but then people will not have these physical eyes. 20. While Allah is All Powerful and All Mighty and He has Power over every thing He has Created, but at the same time, He is Wise and none of His work is beyond Wisdom. While we may understand some portion of His wisdom in certain acts and might not understand in some cases, but at no stage we feel that our understanding is absolutely correct. 21. Our minds and our understanding capacities are incapable of fully understanding the Personality, Power or any attribute of Allah. Therefore we do not go beyond the essentials to explain His personality and attributes ourselves. 21A. We stop at the level at which it is explained by Allah Himself in His Revealed books. The words which Allah uses are in human
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language, but we do not interpret them literally, but we return their full meaning to Allah. 22. Allah has enjoined on us to propagate His teachings to all people and to all nations of this earth. However our job is only to deliver and explain the message to the best of our abilities. 22A. It is not enjoined on us to force any one to accept these teachings. To provide guidance is in Allah’s Hands and He guides to whom He wishes. 23 At no stage in our lives, we get despaired from receiving the Mercy, Grace and Pardon of Allah, irrespective of whatever actions we might have done, we feel that by doing sincere repentance and turning back to Allah and by following His commands, we will be taken back into His Mercy. That is why we never get tired of asking Mercy from Allah and we maintain our personal relation ship with Allah. 24. The link between Allah and ourselves is direct and there is no intermediary or blockage in our direct link with Allah. He hears our prayers directly and also takes actions directly. We therefore supplicate only to Allah and to no one else. Not even to our prophet. 24 A. All our acts of Worships and Charity are only to please Allah and not to show off to others or to gain any material benefit or praise or recognition. If any charitable act is done to show off others, or to get any worldly benefit, then Allah has no need for such acts. 25. It is because of this strong and personal direct link that we have with Allah, that we love Him most. Allah is most loved one to us and we love Allah with all our heart and with all our means and we cannot see or hear His names or His Personality or His attributes be ridiculed and made fun of. 25A. This is the reason that many people think that we are fanatic and extremists. But our fanatism and extremism is based on solid reasonable ground and we do not exceed bounds even under extreme provocation.
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Q 128 Beliefs, Fundamentalism. Is every form of fundamentalism bad?
Ans. Christian and Islamic Fundamentalism (A fable): Let us read to
you a fable to explain the position: Scene-1 1. An Old man was selling “A Wonder Medicine, a medicine to cure all illness” by the roadside. The price was reasonable, the bottle looked good; the medicine had a pleasant but pungent smell! 2. The sale was roaring, people were coming in masses to buy the medicine. 3. However, it was noticed, that the medicine was not able to cure many diseases, in some cases, it even increased the illness, even causing many deaths. 4. The matter was brought to the old man. “Nay, all these are lying, there is no problem in the medicine. It was given to my great- greatgreat grand father. See I also drink it, do you find me sick” 5. The matter became serious; it was referred to the Medical Commission. Experts from The Medical Board came. They analyzed the medicine, it sure was containing some good and healthy elements, but it also contained high amount of Arsenic, Mercury and other harmful elements not suited to human health. 6. However, they were sympathetic to the old man, they asked him, to remove these harmful elements from the medicine, but he refused to Budge. I will not remove an Iota from my medicine. It came down from my forefathers; they were more knowledgeable than you. Your knowledge and experience is nothing compared to them. 7. Doctors argued, may be some one added some harmful elements into the medicine, during preparation, or modified the formula with some mischievous intent. These harmful elements can never become good for the human health. 8. But the Old man will not budge. So the Doctors left him to his world and branded him “Fundamentalist” propagating every where that “Fundamental Medicine” is injurious to the health of human beings
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9. Old Man’s Business is still going good, though not as strong as before, but now many patients buy the medicine only as a showpiece, some take one sip, some two and then abandon it. 10. Now the Old Man is looking for “foreign Lands” people who are not so much learned to sell his medicine to them.
Q 128A Beliefs, Fundamentalism, Is every form of fundamentalism bad?
Ans. Scene-2: Islamic Fundamentalism
1. Another Old Man, (a little younger, a little shabbier, though some what better mannered) was seen selling another “Wonder Medicine” in the market place. He also had a great multitude buying his medicine. Many of his patients were healthy, though there were a few sick also. 2. The old man, knew about the treatment given to the other old man, so he started appealing to the “Doctors” 3. Sir, Sir, (He could speak poor English with a heavy Mid-Eastern accent) I know that you had a bad experience with the other guy. His Medicine was indeed good to start with, but someone mixed harmful Arsenic, Mercury etc in the grab of special flavor to the original formula, causing all these deaths. 4. Sir, Sir, I appeal to you; My medicine is free from all these harmful elements. My formula handed over by my great-great-great- grand fathers is being very carefully guarded. Sir, The original formula is not only written down, but many of my patients have also memorized it. 5. Sir, Sir, my medicine can also cure the patients of the other Old Man also. Our medicines look alike, because the basic ingredients of both are same. 6. Sir, Sir, Why don’t you analyze my medicine, Sir why don’t you take it to your Lab, Sir, the sick that you see in my group, is not due to any defect in the medicine. Sir, these persons did not follow the precautions, which the medicine demanded. He kept on crying…He even started to weep…He had medicine…. the patients were dying in scores… 7. Now the “Doctors” would not budge. We know your score…you all are alike…your medicine looks the same color…it even has the same
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smell…. There could not be a “Wonder Medicine” to cure all ills…. you all are fake.. We will not test or analyze your medicine…. We already know the answer…. So the Doctors branded the other “Old Man” as a “Fundamentalist” too. 8. Old Man’s Business is growing faster than ever, any body who takes one sip, is unlikely to abandon it In fact many from the other group are flocking to his shop. 9.Dear Readers, Who you think is “Fundamentalist” A. First Old Man? . B. Doctors examining the first Old Man … C. Second Old Man? D. Doctors examining the second old man? Give your un-biased opinion. In This Fable: - First Old Man represents Christian Scholars - First Wonder Medicine is Christianity -Arsenic and Mercury are corruption and interpolations in scriptures, other elements are scientific errors, contradictions etc in the scriptures. - Sickness is Moral deficiencies and death is Irreparable Soul Mutation. - First Group of Doctors represent Scientists & Thinkers during 15th – 18th Century. - Second Old Man is Islamic Scholars, -Second Wonder Medicine is Islam, - The Second Group of Doctors are Modern Day Scientists, Scholars and Thinkers) 10. Are you Clear now about the term “Islamic Fundamentalism” ?
Q 129 Beliefs, Fundamentalism, Is every form of fundamentalism bad?
Ans. A. Fundamentalism:
It is interesting that you mentioned Islamic Fundamentalism along side Christian Fundamentalism. I have written a little "Piece" on that which I shall post for your entertainment. Actually there is nothing wrong in Fundamentalism, it only depends what are those Fundamentals. If your Fundamentals are good for human society, then you are a good Fundamentalist.
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If your fundamentals are bad for human society, then you are a bad Fundamentalist. Alhamdolillah (Praise be to Allah), all fundamentals of Islam are good for growth and peaceful living of human civilization. So a Fundamentalist Muslim is a boon for human society. Universal Declaration of Human Rights are inferior to the freedoms and protections provided in Islamic Shariah. Please compare the rights given in Universal Declaration of Human Rights with provisions of Islamic Shariah and you will see the difference. B. Osama taking responsibility for 9/11. The best time to corner glory and take responsibility is at the aftermath of any terrorist attack. That is why you will see even non connected people try to take responsibility for such attacks to gain media publicity and recognition. It would have been very natural for Osama to take responsibility for 9/11 attacks on 9/11 itself. But he denied any involvement in 9/11 right to the Bombardments of Afghanistan by US and its allies. The so called taking responsibility for 9/11 attacks came after two years of Afghan War during the "Anniversary Tapes". No one has actually seen or met Osama after the start of Afghan war. So what is the authority and authenticity of this "Confession" is known to every one who has any knowledge of legal system. Is it not Ironic that CIA and FBI with their Multi-Billion Dollars budget and thousands of detectives and investigators, have to "Depend on Osama confession" as a conclusive proof of his involvement in 9/11 attacks?
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Q 130 Co-existence, Jews and Christians, Did Islam came to replace Judaism and Christianity?
Ans. Your post is filled with errors and assumptions from end to end.
I think you have not read Quran fully and just relied on posts of some Anti Islamic sites. Let me correct you on some important mistakes and claims you made: Islam came in World to replace Judaism and Christianity: You will not find term Judaism and Christianity in Quran at all. As per Quran the original religion sent by God and preached by all prophets in all nations was Islam. Judaism and Christianity is the name chosen by followers of Moses and Jesus respectively. All prophets of God in which Jews and Christians believe were Muslims. Our prophet was the last in the long chain of prophets and he preached the same old message of Islam. Existence of Judaism is Challenge to Islam and Israel represents Judaism: For your information Jews and Judaism was existing in the world for past 2000 years. Jews were living along side Muslims for thousands of years. There were no Anti Jew Riots or killing spree of Jews (as was witnessed in many Christian countries in their annual Pogroms) in any Muslim Country. Muslims are against Israel, because it was established on Muslim lands and after uprooting Muslims living there. That fight is not against Judaism but against these Jews who have done wrong to us. (As this so called War on Terror is not against Islam but so called Muslim Terrorists) Quran is filled with Hate against Jews: While Quran accuses Jews of changing the Word of God and their many crimes, it is very balanced in its criticism of them. There are many verses in Quran praising upright Jews and Christians. If there was not space restrictions I would have given examples. Torah is preserved exactly as it was written originally and Quran does not meet that Criterion:
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It seems you have no knowledge on this subject, otherwise you would not have written this. Torah and other books are not preserved properly is self evident by so many errors and contradictions in different manuscripts we have to day. In fact no two manuscripts are exact copy of each other. Allah of the Pagan was Crescent Moon: This is your pure imagination and nothing else. In Quran there are many verses that if you ask these Pagans who created Sun, Moon, Heavens and Earths, they will surely say Allah. How could Allah be Crescent Moon, when It was created by Allah. This is one of these misinformation campaign which are going around in Anti Islamic sites. Islam is a religion of Slavery: This is a strange comment coming from some one residing in India and who has witnessed how the High Caste Hindus have treated their co religionist the Sudra and other lower Castes. Islam came to give rights to slaves, which was unheard of in those days and not even in modern slavery practices of USA and other western countries. Women are slaves to their husband as per Quran: Please quote Quranic verse and its translation and see how you have mutilated the Quranic message in your blind hate for Islam and Muslims. If you are Muslim….then you are Hypocrite:\ As I have mentioned that none of your accusations are really true. So if you are Muslim and still believe in these points, then you could be a hypocrite. How could a Muslim not believing in this false hood can be a Hypocrite? In the End I would expect that you get some real info on Islam.
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Q 131 Conversion Stories, Why Post them?
Ans. Thank you, See the two reactions to the same story, one by you
and another by Somali Christians. You find them interesting and he finds them foolish, while the story is same!!! The story is in fact is a mirror, in which every one sees his face. To you as a curious minds, this shows how a person reacts to a religion unknown to him and finds in it answers to his quests and finally accepts it after a lot of deliberation and study. For those like Somali Christians and Sound Doc and c. they are revolting, because they have closed their minds and thoughts with their own reasoning and would not allow any fresh ideas to come inside. That happens with most of these issues. We see two side of the coin side by side. In the end, I once again thank you for liking these stories, God Willing I will be posting some more in future. May be these stories are not for you, nobody forces you to read them. You ignore them as I ignore most of your rabid anti Islamic posts. If you read them , may be you realize what you missed out in your faulty study of Islam. If some one is pretending to be asleep, it is almost impossible to awake him. Most of these people were sleeping so they awoke to the truth, when it came before them. Have a nice day Mr. Somali Christian
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Q 132 Crime, Punishment, Islamic Criminal System and safeguards
Ans. I thank you for your interesting post, It seems that you are
really interested in the subject. In my last post, I only listed the punishment for two crimes i.e. stealing and adultery. May be some one got the idea that Islam only wants to terrorize the population by prescribing very harsh punishments for each and every crime, let me tell you that purpose of Islam is to make the society crime free or as crime free as humanly possible. Harsh punishment is one thing but it is not the only thing to make the society crime free, Islam does not want more of its people to live their lives with members of their bodies missing or their backs disfigured than absolutely necessary. I will mention here the protection and guard fences erected by Islam so that people do not fall into these evils. A. Against Theft: 1. Islam has introduced the system of Zakat or compulsory charity, due to which at least 2.5 % of Rich person's wealth (10 % & 5 % of Agriculture produce) is distributed every years to the poor. That has nothing to do with Government taxes. 2. Islam encourages voluntarily charity and feeding hungry and clothing naked are very prized acts in the sight of Allah. 3. It has banned usury and interest so that rich should not become richer and poor become poorer by passage of time and encourages that every one should have equal chances to progress. 4. It is duty of Islamic state to take care of people who are unable to do active work, it should provide stipends or other methods to take care of such people. 5. If in spite of all these, some one commits the crime of theft, then his or her hand should be chopped off, irrespective of their position in the society. There are not two punishments for the same crime. 6. Our prophet is reported to have said "If Fatima the daughter of Mohammad commits theft, I will have her hands also chopped off"
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7. Now people balk at the punishments and do not look at the safeguards that Islam has prescribed. Even in Muslim countries the punishments are implemented first before implementing Islamic economic system. 8. If you look thru Islamic history, you will not find that so many punishments for theft were executed. The system and swift punishment root out the evil from society 9. The people who object to Islamic punishments, if we ask their sentiments if they are robbed, would be very harsh. They would like to kill the thief or give him a very grievous punishment, but when it comes to theft in other's house, they have a separate standard. B. Adultery: Now look at the crime of adultery and see how Islam wants to control this evil and protective fences that Islam has built around it. 1. In the first place, islam does not encourage free mixing of the two sexes, so that the opportunities for such cases are minimized (Please do not give me excuse that some places are safe, even White Hose is not safe!!). 2. Then Islam wants that men and women both should dress modestly in public. Their bodies should be properly covered and they should lower their gazes when they come in contact with each other. 3. Then Islam prohibits use of Alcohol and narcotics. These are one of the major cause of crime against women. So many crimes against women would be avoided if the parties were sober. 4. Islam makes both marriage and divorce very easy, so that there is no excuse for any one to not get a mate. Men are even allowed more than one wife, if they have economic means and can do justice between wives. 5. If after all this, some one commits adultery (and there are four eye witness to the act- a fact which is only possible if some one is bold enough to do this act in public), then there is only one punishment for it, death penalty if the parties are married and 100 lashes if they are unmarried. 6. Not only that, Allah wants that this punishment should be in public and Muslims should watch it… Not because of sadistic reasons, but
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because it should cause a terror in people and no one must attempt it, Quran says "… Let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by Allah, if you believe in Allah and the Last Day: and let a party of the Believers witness their punishment" (24:2) 7. Quran further says "In the law of Equality there is (saving of) life to you, O men of Understanding " (2:179) That is in short Islamic system of life and its criminal system. It should be implemented in Full otherwise the cure would be only partial. In this system the rights of those who are wronged are also protected. Against this we have a western Justice system, in which all safeguards are given to the criminal and none is given to the person who is wronged. There are lawyers whose only aim is to get the acquittal of their clients one way or the other. The process is very lengthy and the justice is delayed most of the time. And what is more, we do not see any lowering of crimes in most of western society. People devise newer and newer methods to beat the law. Any lawyer who has got maximum number of acquittals is highly valued. Who suffers in the end? Society or Individuals or Both? I thank you once again for this interesting topic, let us see your views about it.
Q 133 Criminal Justice, Is Flogging Barbaric?
Ans. It does not hurt me at all. By your claims that there is no Allah.
I feel really sorry for you that your 35 years of study of Islam has gone to waste if that is what you found out (That there is no Allah). Allah of Islam is the Sole Creator of this Universe, Who is Eternal, has no beginning , shall have no end, He has had no father and has no Son…The Almighty Creator, Cherisher and Sustainer of the Universe. If such a personality does not really exists, then what are you preaching? What salvation are you talking about?
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You would live in crime infested society, seeing your women and children being violated and raped on the streets and the Milk of Human Kindness will make you say Hush, Hush Tata, By, By…..There, there. In our society such anti social and criminal elements will be flogged to an inch of their lives to make the society Crime free. It is your choice take it or leave it. If flogging is Inhuman….. then raping and committing adultery and theft and robbery is Truly Human and those who perform such acts be given a citation and welcome? The last past of your post shows really what type of bad mouthed person you really are. It only amuses me, because any one who raises his or her voice and starts swearing and looses his or her temper and starts using abusive and bad language in any debate or discussions means that he or she has lost the debate and discussion and his or her case is week. If you do not like floggings…..sure simmer in you own juices and try to invent more and more type of punishment to take acre of ever increasing crime rate in your society.
Q 134 Criminal Justice, Crime rate, Why Crime rates are low in Islamic societies?
Ans. This is another strange logic that since we feel that in our
society crimes against women are reported and punished, so there is no problem if the level of graph is increasing all the time. At the same time you accuse other society that have very few such crimes against woman only on your presumptions that such crimes are not reported there. What would you say about lowest theft cases coming from Saudi Arabia, is that also because people do not report theft cases because there hands would be chopped off!! By the way no woman is stoned to death if she was raped or forced to do the sexual act. She would be stoned to death if she willfully while in marriage commits adultery with another man and there are four eye witness to this act.
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Is that so easy to prove? But one such punishment cures the society from this evil, whereas your thousands of lectures and “Pressure Releasing” stations like live shows, strip tease joints and free sex are not able to achieve since centuries. Which is better, more efficient and more practical system could be any body’s guess? And what is a matter of shame that while you are unable to root this evil from your society accuse others who have done a much better job.
Q 135 Criminal Justice, Flogging, Could we have a flog free society?
Ans. First of all, I object to you calling Allah in the derogatory way.
This shows your bias and what a foul mouthed person you are. Then your comments on our Islamic systems are uncalled for and only show your own ignorance. You are so much concerned with flogging that you would rather see your country infested with ever increasing crime rates than see a few criminal being flogged and whole society be free from crime!! You have your choice and be happy in your Flog-free and Crime infested society. We choose for a Crime free and very few flogging occurring society. You did not comment which loving father would hang his child, put him on electric chair or a gas chamber? Where your milk of human kindness goes when you read hardened criminals being hanged, electrocuted and go on a one way ticket to Gas Chambers? So you must abolish death penalty from your countries and enjoy mores surge in murder, robbery and other violent crimes. We only get what we love, for a foul mouthed person like you, living in a crime infested society is the least Best Wish which I can hope for.
Q 136 Dimmi, Second class citizen, Are they really?
Ans. I did not ran away from any honest debates.
I said, Islam believes in openness, If religious minorities have to live inside any Islamic state, they have rights and they have obligations.
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On the rights side, they have the freedom of religion, freedom of their religious places, their scriptures, their own system of social and criminal justice and freedom of trade etc. Against these rights, they have to pay an agreed amount of Tribute and do not plan against safety of Islamic state. These are in short the whole Dimmi system, if you say that Islam treats them as second class citizen, yes indeed it does. But which society does not do that. The Black Christians in USA are treated differently than White Christians, just because law does not say that does not change the ground realities. I asked you what are the Biblical teachings about dealing with Non Jews, you did not answer that. If you say that these are only in books, then prove from history how Jews have treated non Jews in their countries. I know that for past 2000 Years, Jews had no control of any country, so they cannot provide any proof. Before 2000 years, we have to go to books of history or their religious scriptures. In modern times, what they did to Palestinians and they are still doing to them is known to every body. We see it in front of our eyes every day in TV. Your biased media only shows the scenes of Jewish suffering, watch our TV to see the other side of picture also.
Q 137 Faith Question, Are Muslims allowed to question their faith?
Ans. I once again thank you for your post. You are right we are here
to force our judgment on each other. We should at least have freedom to have our say, without fear of being ridiculed or made fun of. I do not balk at answering civil questions and queries about my religion.
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You asked, are you allowed to question your religion? The answer is yes. How can you believe in any thing with out getting your queries answered? Every one has queries about his faith and tries to find answer about them. The beauty of Quran is that it ahs direct answers to most of common queries which people have. The answers are simple, logical and reasonable. But if you have that sickness, that I will not accept any answer from a book that is 1400 years old, and how can a book 1400 years old satisfy my queries raised in year 2009, then there is no answer. The questions which are not directly answered in Quran are usually answered from the life and tradition of our prophet and if they are not available there, we ask from our learned scholars. Islam is the most logical of all religions and encourages people to satisfy themselves of its teaching before accepting it. Most of new converts to Islam have accepted it after a thorough study that sometimes goes into months and years. Of course the results of Islamic studies are subjective and the results vary: A. On one hand, close and thorough study of Islam by our HE D.D. REV ZAHID ESQ , a born Muslim turned him into a MURTAD B. While the same study helped people like Cat Stevens a born Christian to become Yousuf Islam!! C. Close Islamic study helped Dr. Maurice Buccaile another born Christian to become Muslim, D. The same study helped Maryam Jameelah, Jewish Born lady to become a Muslim. E. Islamic study is turning many others to come into fold of Islam every day. Therefore it is not the fault of Islam but the intention and open mindedness of the individual who is studying Islam..
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Q 138 God Name, Misc. Questions
Noetics1. What is the basis of the Arabic Allah (singular)= the Hebrew Creator (ELOHIM, uniplural)? MUQ: In Hebrew, Arabic, Sanskrit, Persian and in almost all Eastern language, there are two type of plurals, plural of Numbers and plural of Respect. So in ELOHIM of Hebrew, the ending IM is the plural of respect and not plural of number. In Arabic also, many times Allah addresses Himself as We, there also it is plural of respect and not plural of numbers. Even in these days, in Royal pronouncements, Sovereign refers to himself or herself as “We”, this We is also plural of respect and not plural of number. No Jews believes that there are Three Persons in God Head. That is only invention of St. Paul, who has mislead millions of Christians away from teachings of Jesus to his own teachings. Noetics2. How do you rule out Allah as a derivative of Baal who was a household deity (an idol) of the non-Hebrew semitic people of Arabia? Israel and Judah were legitimately expelled by JEHOVAH into baalworship centers of Arabia (Assyria and Babylon respectively)when they began to indulge in baal-worship. MUQ: Allah has no relation to Baal or any other pagan deity. Allah is the word which Arabs use to refer to Unique Creator and sustainer of God. Despite 1400 years all Arabs still use Allah for their unique God. Irrespective of whether they are Muslims, Jews or Christians. In Arabic there is no equivalent of Allah. A unique word for a Unique Creator!! Noetics3. How do you relate the English 'god' with the Arabic 'god'? In English God is derived from the "good-one". MUQ: I do not know how English god was derived, or who started using word god and God, i.e. one with small g and another with Capital G. I have no comments that god is derived from good one or not. Noetics4.The Hebrew Creator has promised to be the Redeemer Seed of the Woman (JEHOVA YAH SHUA) early in the Book of Genesis. MUQ: There is no mystery in Redeemer being a seed of woman. Every human being comes out from mother’s womb. It is to St. Paul and his followers to look for mystery in every nook and corner and use these
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ambiguous words to prove their own philosophies. They read more in books than what books or their authors intended. Noetics5. The Hebrew Creator imprinted the Sentence of Death on the genome of mankind as judgment against rebellion. MUQ: This is again the philosophy of St. Paul. As per original Hebrew, the punishment for disobedience was death. Adam disobeyed God and he did not die immediately. So the punishment mentioned as death was not true. Noetics6. The Hebrew Creator took that Sentence upon Himself in the Second Person of Elohim, rose from the dead and sent the Third Person of Elohim from Elohim into His Fallen Creation. MUQ: This is again the view of St. Paul and not Jesus. Jesus never knew anything about First Person, Second Person or Third Person in God Head. He is free and blameless before God for what St. Paul said or did. Jesus never spoke to St. Paul and never taught him any thing. Noetics7. Acceptance of that FREE offer of CANCELLATION of judgment makes you His child for ever. MUQ: This is again wish of St. Paul. According to Jesus, “This is eternal life, that they should know you, only true God and Jesus Christ whom you sent”. We believe in this and so according to Jesus we qualify for eternal life. We do not care about any threat issued by St. Paul or his followers. Noetics8 This is the sum and substance of redemption revealed in 66 books of the bible Certified by the Messiah and Elohim's Spirit written over a period of 3,000 years in three different continents by the instrumentality of over 40 different prophets, priests, princes, peasants, scholars, statesmen, fishermen etc. MUQ: According to 66 or 73 Books of Bible, all prophets (Moses and after Moses) mentioned in those books came only for Jews. Jesus was also sent only to House of Lost sheep of Israel. It was St. Paul who opened the gate to other people (against the express wishes of His Lord and Master Jesus). Noetics9 What has this to do with the Arabic Koran written by one man
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who exhibited known symptoms of dubious and diabolic extraterrestrial inspirations? MUQ: Arabic Quran is the Final Revelation from God Almighty to all humankind, irrespective of their race, color, nation or ethnicity. All inspirations come from God and brought by His angels, so there is nothing dubious or diabolical in the revelation sent to Last of the prophet. Final Comment: I see that this absence has not done to you a “Bit of Good”. You are back with your old vengeance !!
Q 139 Growth, Leaving, Are Muslims leaving Islam?
Ans. Why Africa, even in many Muslim countries like Pakistan,
Bangladesh, Indonesia etc. Christian missionaries are active amongst Muslims and have goner many converts. If you look at these people, they are mostly poor and illiterate people , who have very limited knowledge about either Islam or Christianity. These poor people are mostly tricked into accepting Christianity, because the missionaries do not tell them real teachings of Christianity unless they come into their fold. Please refer to any authentic reports on religious before giving your figure. As per official data gathered by independent bodies, Islam is the fastest growing religion in World, in West and in USA. You are entitled to your own views. Number of persons accepting any religion is no proof that the religion be necessarily right, but it shows the trend as to how it affects people. The stories I am posting are from those people who have accepted Islam after deep study. Still their views are subjective and have no force on others. I am posting these stories is rebuttal to people like Sound Doc and others, who paint Islam in darkest of colors. They think that it is all black in the house of Islam. These stories could be an eye opener for them that whenever any one makes comparative study of all world’s religions, he or she finds that Islam is the most reasonable and most practical.
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That is why people from every walk of life, even Christian and Jewish preachers have come into fold of Islam. And this is not limited to our age. It is going on for past 1400 years. In fact every religion has death sentence for those who leave it, in some it is expressively written and in others it was practiced not very long ago. Islam does not believe in hypocrisy that is why every thing is written clearly here.
Q 140 Jews, Dialog, Some pointers
Ans. A. Judaism does not encourage…..
You have said it in nutshell. Since Judaism is a racial religion, so they do not encourage people (it means they discourage people) to join it. However if some one is bent upon joining it (by marrying a Jewish girl or boy), then he or she may accept it. I do not want to comment on your views on Christianity of Islam. But they invite other people to join them and welcome every one to their faiths, which is very natural. It means they have nothing to hide. B. Jews tried to return many times to Palestine but were massacred: Would you be kind enough to tell us when Jewish Army or large number of immigrants tried to enter Palestine, but were massacred. If it was between 70 CE to 650 CE, I do not want to comment (because the matter was between Jews and Christians), but it did not happen from 650 CE (the time Muslims conquered Palestine) till 1918 CE (When Turkish army was defeated in WW-1) C. What Palestinians have done for peace? The person who is wronged has certain advantages in any court of law. Since the Palestinians were turned out from their lands and houses, they have per see right to protest and demand justice. The whole world should have supported their cause and provided them with moral and political support.
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But what happened that whole world (Under Zionist Propaganda and under Zionist Pressure) called them aggressors instead of victims. If the generations of Palestinians are living in the conditions they are living, I do not begrudge if they become bitter. The problem is that honest peaceful terms were never presented to them in any of the so-called peace negotiations. Israel should return to 1948 boundaries and land be provided to the Original Palestinians who were evicted from Israel in 1948. If Jews and Zionists agree tot these terms, then peace can once again prevail in Palestine, ME and Whole World.
Q 141 Jews, Dialog, Some pointers
Ans. I like to answer point by point of your reply
A. Problem is that Muslims think only Islam is word of God. In Fact it is Quran which recognized the scripture of other faith. It recognizes Torah, Psalms, and Gospels expressively and all other scripture in general terms. Quran claims that it is Final Revelation from God, which was sent to His last and Final messenger Mohammad (PBUH). It is Jews and Christians and people of other faith, who reject Quran and lay allegations against our Holy Prophet. A. Jews are the canary in the coal mine called Jihad. The whole world is facing it. Israel is the spearhead. The present state of Israel, which is a Zionist Plot, is the root cause of all problem in ME and in the world. It was established by fraud and force and is based on injustice and a sort of apartheid. The struggle is to undo this Justice. So Israel is not the Canary in the coal mine. It is the real source and face of oppression, tyranny and injustice in the ME and whole world.
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C. So the brilliant and inventive Jews will just keep growing, thriving, improving, while the Muslims live off hatred and resentment and victim hood. It is Islam and Muslims which is the fastest growing religion and fastest growing people in the world. The Brilliant, Educated, Inventive, Intelligent, Mischievous, Planning Jews and their religion is on the decline both in numbers as well as their ability to influence other people. Can you tell me how, many people from other faiths accepted Judaism in past decade? Compare that with Islam and truth will manifest before you. D. GOD WORKS IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS. Yes indeed God works in Mysterious ways. His planning is perfect. Despite all Odds and everything to their disadvantages, Mighty Israeli army is helpless against Hizbollah and Hamas. The Mighty Russian army was in-effective against a handful of Mujahideen. The Mighty US army was defeated in Vietnam and in Iraq was ineffective to control Iraqi People. God shows us these so people who are weak and have no modern technology, should not loose heart.
Q 142 Jews, Treatment, Does Allah treats people differently?
Islamic Dimmi system, with all its rights and duties is still available in the books of Islamic Jurisprudence. Compare them with the verses of OT and you will see what is what. Do you mean to say, that Allah sends his apostle to any nation and then treats people either they believe or reject the messenger in the same way? Those who believe in the message of prophet of Allah and follow him, are at a different level than those who reject him. That distinction in the hereafter is much more pronounced, in this world, those who reject the message of prophet would be given a temporary respite.
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Jews who fought against the prophet were dealt accordingly, those who accepted Islam, were treated like any other Muslim, those who chose to live under the rules of Muslims, were made protectorate of Islamic nation. The choice was given to Jews, which path they should take. There was no ambiguity any where. In the hereafter all those who reject the Final Prophet are due to grievous penalty and there is nothing wrong with that. Which ruler grants the same favor to those who are obedient and those who are rebellious? You are right, Muslims have 57 states already, they want 58th one also, which was taken away from them by the deceit and fraud of UNO and Western Powers. Our position is very clear, there is no ambiguity there. However, we can make concession to our “Cousins”, give them respite and peace, provided they behave properly and act justly with our Muslim brothers there.
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Q 143 Jihad, Justification, Should Jihad stop?
Ans. As I told you Islamic Jihad is an all out struggle against
oppression, Tyranny and Injustice. So long as these evils are present in the World, Islamic Jihad will continue. And this Jihad is not always fighting with arms, this is an all out struggle, with pen, with money, and with heart. If whole world is bent upon oppression, tyranny and injustice, then Muslims have to Jihad against whole world. But to my knowledge and info, majority of world population are peaceful and peace loving, they want to live in peace side-by-side. It is a very small minority who due to their vested interests, do not wish to see peace prevail in the world. Or they want disproportionate benefits for themselves. If these few people are removed from the scene or from holding power, the world would return to peace. It is unfortunate that these few people control, print and electronic media and give an impression that whole world is with them and whole world wants to fight and finish Muslims and Islam. From your posts it looks like, either you are in that group or brainwashed by that media. What is your position sir? Are you for Oppression, Tyranny or Injustice ? Or are you against them?
Q 144 Judaism, Allah, Do Muslims and Jews worship same God?
The names are not important in themselves, but a Racial, Linguistic, or National name looks like some thing exclusive. Now it is very nice of you to post the most fundamental belief of your religion. Let me see point by point compliance with your beliefs and our beliefs. 4 HEAR, O ISRAEL: THE HaShem OUR GOD, THE HaShem IS ONE.
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MUQ: We also believe that our God Allah is one God. It says in Quran “Say ! He in Allah the one and only, Allah the absolute the eternal. He begets nor, either is He begotten and there is none like unto Him” (Ch 112: V 14) 5 And thou shalt love HaShem thy G-d with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. MUQ: We also love our God Allah with all our heart and with all our soul and with all our might, it says in Quran “…But those of faith are overflowing in their love of Allah” (2:165) and “Say Truly my prayers, and my sacrifices and my life and my death are (all) for Allah, the Cherisher of the Worlds” (6:162) 6 And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be upon thy heart; MUQ: This also we accept, all Words of Allah are written upon our hearts. 7 and thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thy house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up. MUQ: That also we do, we teach our children every thing that we learn and bring them up in faith to the best of our abilities. 8 And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thy hand, and they shall be for frontlets between thine eyes. MUQ: This also we accept. 9 And thou shalt write them upon the door-posts of thy house, and upon thy gates. MUQ: There is nothing wrong in this also and we comply with this in principle if not literally. 10 And it shall be, when HaShem thy G-d shall bring thee into the land which He swore unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give thee--great and goodly cities, which thou didst not build,
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MUQ: We do confirm that Allah did deliver Jews from the bondage of Egyptian and got them settled in Palestine. But we do not consider this in any dogmatic sense. It was a reward for Jews fulfilling the covenant with God. 11 and houses full of all good things, which thou didst not fill, and cisterns hewn out, which thou the didst not hew, vineyards and olivetrees, which thou didst not plant, and thou shalt eat and be satisfied— MUQ: This also is correct and true historically. Again it is no dogma attached with it. 12 then beware lest thou forget HaShem, who brought thee forth out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. MUQ: We also comply with that and we are told not to forget Allah under any circumstances. 13 Thou shalt fear HaShem thy G-d; and Him shalt thou serve, and by His name shalt thou swear. MUQ: We also comply with that, Fear of Allah is foundation of our faith and we swear only with name of Allah and any other form of swearing is prohibited. 14 Ye shall not go after other gods, of the gods of the peoples that are round about you; MUQ: Islam is strictly against worship of other gods than Allah “There is no deity worth worship except Allah” is the trademark of all Muslims in all ages. 15 for a jealous G-d, even HaShem thy G-d, is in the midst of thee; lest the anger of HaShem thy G-d be kindled against thee, and He destroy thee from off the face of the earth. MUQ: We also confirm that Allah will forgive all other sins except some one associating partners with Him. It says in Quran “Allah will not forgive the sin of joining other gods with Him, but He forgives whom He please other sins than this” (4:116) 16 Ye shall not try HaShem your G-d, as ye tried Him in Massah. MUQ: We also confirm that we should not put Allah to try or test.
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17 Ye shall diligently keep the commandments of HaShem your G-d, and His testimonies, and His statutes, which He hath commanded thee. MUQ: We are told to keep all command of Allah and all His statues given in His book or thru His messenger. 18 And thou shalt do that which is right and good in the sight of HaShem; that it may be well with thee, and that thou mayest go in and possess the good land which HaShem swore unto thy fathers, MUQ: We are told to do good deeds and strive in the cause of Allah. The rewards could come in this world or in the next world. 19 to thrust out all thine enemies from before thee, as HaShem hath spoken. MUQ: That also we confirm that Allah helps us against our enemies. 20 When thy son asketh thee in time to come, saying:'What mean the testimonies, and the statutes, and the ordinances, which HaShem our G-d hath commanded you? MUQ: This also we accept and comply, we teach and educate our children with what we know about religion and Allah’s gifts. 21 then thou shalt say unto thy son:'We were Pharaoh's bondmen in Egypt; and HaShem brought us out of Egypt with a mighty hand. MUQ: This also we accept as Historic fact. 22 And HaShem showed signs and wonders, great and sore, upon Egypt, upon Pharaoh, and upon all his house, before our eyes. MUQ: This also is true and we accept as historic fact, it says in Quran “And remember (O Jews) We delivered you from the people of Pharaoh: they set you hard tasks and punishments, slaughtered your sons and let your women folk live; therein was a tremendous trial from your Lord” (2: 49). There are many similar verses in Quran to this effect. 23 And He brought us out from thence, that He might bring us in, to give us the land which He swore unto our fathers.
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MUQ: This also is true, with no Dogma attached to the land of Palestine. 24 And HaShem commanded us to do all these statutes, to fear HaShem our G-d, for our good always, that He might preserve us alive, as it is at this day. MUQ: This also we accept and we try to follow all decrees, command and instructions of Allah. 25 And it shall be righteousness unto us, if we observe to do all this commandment before HaShem our G-d, as He hath commanded us.' MUQ: This also we confirm, if we follow laws and commandments of Allah, we shall be deemed as righteous in His eyes. Conclusion: If the above are most important fundamentals of your faith, then let me tell you, there is very little difference between our two faiths. If you call God as HaShem and we call Him as Allah, He still remains the same personality. He is Creator, Cherisher ands Sustainer of whole Universe. He is God and Lord of all human beings. It says in Quran “Call Him as Allah or Call Him as Rahman: by whatever name you call upon Him (it is well) for to Him belong the most beautiful names…” (17:110) In the end I thank you for a very useful discussion. Let us see some more fundamentals of your religion and see how much we comply with that.
Q 145 Kaaba, Muslims, Kaaba or Jerusalem?
Ans. Who told you that our prophet was the originator of Islam? The
Word Islam means "To surrender oneself to the will of one's Creator". In that sense every prophet was a Muslim and their religion was Islam, because they surrendered themselves to the will of their Creator. If Jesus did not pray towards Makkah, then did he not pray in the direction of Jerusalem? What was in Jerusalem that Jesus and other prophets prayed towards it? Can you name it? What was so special in Jerusalem?
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Kaaba was the house made by prophet Abraham for the worship of true God of Universe. It predates Jerusalem both in antiquity and importance. Jerusalem has link with Jacob and Kaaba has link with Abraham. Whom would you prefer? Face towards a House made by Abraham or one made by Jacob?
Q 146 Laws, Change with time, Does Allah allow for changes in society with time?
Ans. First of all I would like to thank you for asking a very good and
very interesting question. I would try to answer these to the best of my knowledge and ability. Please note that my answer may not be complete and others may also add , modify or comment on it. A. Does Allah allow for change in a society of Islam? change is not to any religious aspects, Mind that the
Islam is the most dynamic of all revealed religions. Quran and teachings of prophet lay the basic guidelines for an Islamic society and within those guidelines Muslims are free to decide any course of action that arises in their society and in any time. The Best example of this is the conversation between Prophet and SAAD Bin MUAZ, whom the prophet sent as Governor to Yemen. The prophet asked SAAD, “How would you decide on matters that come before you?” “According to the Book of Allah, O messenger of Allah” Replied SAAD. “And if you do not find it in the book of Allah?” Asked the prophet “Then I will decide it as per your sayings and your action” Replied SAAD “And if you do not find it in my sayings?” Asked the prophet “Then I will strive my best in the light of the above to find the solution” replied SAAD. The prophet was very happy at this answer and prayed Allah for special blessings to SAAD.
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That is how Muslim scholars are doing in every age and there is no issue on which they cannot give judgment. That has given rise to very important rule in Islamic Jurisprudence that is: 1. In matters relating to Worship and religious doctrines, every thing is prohibited unless the one permitted by Allah and His messenger. 2. In matters relating to worldly affairs, every thing is lawful unless prohibited by Allah and His messenger. That is why we find in Quran a small list prohibiting certain foods and dealings and rest all are allowed. That is why changing circumstance or new scientific discoveries have never caused problems in Islamic societies. B Changes due to advancement of scientific knowledge, such as embryonic stem cell research, or a cultural advancement, such as an abolishment of slavery? Quran exhorts Muslims to excel in science and technology. It is the only scripture which comments so much on nature and natural phenomenon. It asks muslims to reflect and study the Sky, earth, animal and plant kingdom, even human body and find out how they work and how the knowledge can be used for benefit of human kind and for curing diseases. That I why in their hay days, Muslim scientists excelled in every field of knowledge. The current rot has set in for past 300 years or so and it was due to Industrial revolution in West and use of Steam power, which Muslim scientists had not studied in those days. Now I come to the specific cases cited by you: a. Stem Cell Research: Islam is for all advancement in science and technology that is useful for human kind and curing of diseases. Idle research whose purpose is to change the structure or composition of human body or try to prove non existence of Creator are not allowed. I do not know what is the aim and goals of this stem cell research.
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b. Abolition of Slavery: Islam did not start the practice of slavery. It was going on since time immemorial. Islam allowed it as an economical solution to solve the problem of POW captured in the battlefield. There was no rule then to exchange POW s. It was Islam which gave rights to slaves, which was a thing unheard of in those days. To kill the master if he killed a slave without any just cause was a concept which was never followed in any Western country at any time, even after they abolished slavery. To execute a white man for killing a black man is still a rarity in most western countries even today. Islam was all for freedom of slavery and laid down many situations in which freeing of slaves was a solution to certain acts of commission or omission. So Islam welcomes abolition of slavery, but it does not want that any one should criticize it on theological grounds as to why it was not abolished 1400 years back.
Q 147 Laws, Flexibility, How flexible are Islamic laws?
Ans. I thank you for your frank post.
First I want to remove some misconceptions that are in your mind regarding Islam and its dealings with people of other faith. Islam reserves its right to preach and propagate its message to all humans on this earth, but it never forces any one to accept Islam. People should accept Islam by their own choice. Then Islam gives maximum protection to people of other faiths who are residing in its lands. They have freedom of religion, freedom of their religious places and their scriptures. They have freedom to practice their own justice system (that was true when the modern curse of Extreme Nationalism started considering existence of two judicial systems in one country as equal to sedition). The people who are Muslims or choose to become Muslim, should live their lives in accordance with the guidance provided by God and Prophet. Islam is an state of mind and not a label that people put on
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their forehead. So by definition a Muslim is one who accepts Allah and His messenger as his or her ultimate guide. Unless a Muslim be hypocrite, he will never reject any direct and express command of Allah and His messenger. Islamic laws have all built in flexibilities to be workable in any age. There is no time bar on any Islamic fundamentals. All and any adjustments have been made and are being made by Islamic Scholars thru out the ages. But none of the changes are made which are outside the flexibility limits made by Allah and His messenger. For example No Islamic Scholar can make lawful Alcohol, or allow Adultery or make usury Lawful etc. We do not accept any thing coming from West as Modern and that is which must be acceptable. Regarding women, Islam laws and code for them and rights given to them are better than any other ancient or modern system. But they have a limit and assume men and women to be complimentary to each other and not direct competitor. So do not think that Muslim women are second class citizens or as servant to their men. They each have their own areas of work and responsibilities. In Islam home is as important department as working outside. There is no stigma attached to a woman if she works inside house. If you think that meaning of modernism is to justify each and every thing than people can think of, then we are against that type of modernism. It is a sad state of affairs that in West Church has surrendered totally to the modernists. They are compromising on every thing. That is why they are no longer relevant any more.
Q 148 Modernization, Limits, What are limits of Modernization?
Ans. I read your post with interest and endorse many points that you
have mentioned. We indeed have lots of common points, since we are humans and human nature does indeed has many common things. I do not reject Modernism as you have mentioned, but I said that Modernism has to be viewed within its prescribed limits. Islam does
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has flexibility in its laws to move with time, so long as these do not go beyond the prescribed limits. For example segregation of males and females and avoiding free mixing of sexes is a basic issue in Islam. Now to take care of changing circumstances, we could have separate colleges and universities for males and females. Their jobs areas could be separate. There could be women only factories and establishments. None of these is against progress and educating females. Males and females are made complimentary to each other and not as each other’s competitors. Now you mentioned that Taliban stoned adulterous married women to death, to you it looked barbaric, but this is punishment according to Islamic laws. In any society if this punishment is implemented on one women, it removes the evil of adultery from the society. This is a tested thing. No amount of prison or other sentences are able to remove this evil from any society as is evident from the data we see from other countries. You asked, then why Muslims do not raise their voices against the so called terrorism, the answer is that when the desires of major population to live according to Islamic laws are denied by their rulers, they start to support any group that promises that. If the Western Powers remove their Anti Shariah attitude and help Muslim states to implement Shariah or at least be neutral, then these extremist group will not get popular support. But the Western Powers support all these dictators or leaders who rule against the wishes of common people in their so country, Western Powers only look for those leaders who are opposed to Islam and its values and will toe the line of these powers one way or other. This in my view is the root cause of this so called violence in Muslim countries.
Q 149 Muslim, Jews, So called Muslim atrocities Against Jews:
Ans. In principle I do not encourage atrocities by any group over
others. Our religion and its guidelines are very specific on that. So if any Muslim as a person or any Muslim state as a policy persecutes person or people of any other group, their actions are not justified in Islam.
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Having said so, the way Muslims treated Jews for all these 1300 years was far better than what treatment they received at the hand of Christians. There is no dearth of Historical books on this topic. It was not Muslim’s policy to persecute Jews as a religious duty. They had only to pay tribute and live under the dominance of Muslims. That was very fair considering that they were a small minority in Muslim lands. So do not keep on harping on isolated cased of some acts done by a few Muslims of some Muslim rulers.
Q 150 Muslim, Salvation, Is there a short cut in Islam?
Ans. You are right, Islam does not offer a simple or short cut method
for salvation. It is a continuous struggle till the end of your life. You wake up every day as Muslim, you must strive your best to end it as Muslim. Despite such tall claims which Christians make, they are no more fragile humans as every one else is. We believe in God and try to live our life to the best of our abilities on the footsteps of our prophet. We have a fear of our Lord as well as Hope in His infinite mercy. We do not boast any thing and we do not show off. Our religion is not based on magic and signs and miracles. It is a common sense religion for common people and that is why it is the fastest growing religion in the west. Your priests and preachers, each Born Again, and filled with Holy Spirit are regularly caught in one sexual scandals after next, some with child abuse and some with incest and some misusing confession… It proves that in the end we are all humans and nothing else, despite such big claims. We want to live like humans and not angels or devil.
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Q 151 Muslim Trademark, What is Muslim’s trademark?
Ans. We do not need any shirt to say what you say, our religion has
already given us a trademark by which we can be distinguished from other people. Full Beard and Head covering for our males. Modest clothing and head scarf for our women. You feel free to spit on us if you like.... but be aware that we do not turn left cheek when some one slaps us or right cheek... we slap him back for every slap he hits us with. Our religion is a natural religion according to human emotions. We are not angels and we are not devils... We are humans, with human emotions.
Q 152 Muslims Faith, Why Stick to Islam?
Ans. Here are short answers for your short Questions
Joe: Why do you continue following Islam? MUQ: Because in Islam we find all questions as to our purpose of life. What we are and why we are here and where we will go. And what we should do to fulfill our purpose of life. There is no ambiguity and there is no un-intelligible philosophy. This are laid down in clear and concise manner. And that is the path of all past prophets of God. So we must follow in their footsteps. Joe: Why is it important for you to remain Muslim.? MUQ: If you are Not a Muslim, then you are in odds with your Creator and the Creator of the Universe. You can never reach inner peace and outer peace unless you are in full harmony with your Creator. So you should remain in the state of Islam, till your death. Joe: What is your relationship to God. What is God's relationship to you? MUQ: God is our Creator, our sustainer and our Cherisher. We are His slaves and His Servants
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Joe: What is the outcome of your faith? MUQ: If we are real Muslim and do as what our Creator wants, we will fulfill our purpose of life on this earth. We would have a peaceful life on this earth and when we die, we will receive Mercy and Grace from our God and shall enter Paradise for an everlasting life of contentment and bliss and will be saved from hell fire and God’s displeasure. Joe: How does a Muslim deal with sin? MUQ: If we err or we sin knowingly or unknowingly, we repent to our God and we try not to repeat the same mistake again. Our God, our Merciful Lord forgives our sins, is we are sincere in our repentance. Joe: Finally, what is the nature of God?[please describe Him] MIQ: Nature of our God is best described in Surah 112 of Quran. Which reads as “Say He is Allah, the one and only. Allah the absolute, the eternal. He begets not and nor he was begotten. And there is none unto like Him” This is a short but very powerful description of God our Lord, the Lord of Universe and every thing in it. Joe: Thank you MUQ: Mention not. PS: Are you not same Joe, with whom I have had a long series of posts exchange?
Q 153 Muslims, Shariah, Are bulk of Muslims against Shariah?
Ans. You are really misinformed about Shariah, it is not a monster as
it is projected in your media. reasonable and very moderate. It is set of laws which are very
Pakistan was created in 1947 only on the basis that it would be a model Islamic state. The politicians used the sentiments of common Muslims to create the state of Pakistan, but once it was created they never allowed it to be a Islamic state. They implemented western system there which was not acceptable to common people.
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Now since there is no normal way for people to follow Shariah laws, there have mushroomed so many extremists organizations and they have taken the law into heir own hands and trying every Non Islamic things to achieve their goals. If the politicians were true to their pledge and truest which they gained at the time on creation of Pakistan, extremists had no chance to grow or take roots. Western Powers instead of asking the Politicians to act according to majority wishes of common people, support the same hypocrite politicians. No one was fed up with Sharia in Afghanistan until US and its allies descended there in swarms. If the Afghan people were fed up with Sharia, why despite 8 years of Benevolent US and NATO rule, there is so much opposition to their rule in Afghanistan? It were Taliban who maintained peace in Afghanistan after so many years of infighting. It were Taliban who stopped Opium Trade from Afghanistan without asking a single Dollar from West. If West had conscience they should have worshipped Taliban for doing this great service for them free of charge. But western people also are putty in the hands of their politicians and Media Barons and they do not know who are their real friends and real enemies.
Q 154 Muslims, Social Interactions, Can a Muslim be asocial?
Ans. I appreciate your post and agree with your intention. But what
you mentioned is a very generalized concept and there are no rules as to how it is to be implemented. Islamic way of life provides more than ample means of socializing and mixing between people during the five daily prayers. How can a Muslim who meets brother Muslims five times every day in mosque be asocial? How can father and their children who pray together five times every day be isolated from each other. Then there are Friday prayers in which the entire population of a neighborhood gathers together in mosque. There is Friday sermon during which common problems could be discussed and resolved.
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Then we have annual gathering during the two Eid s and International gathering of all Muslims during Hajj. I doubt if any practicing Muslim could become asocial or avoid meeting with fellow Muslims. These punishments are for criminals who break the rules of society and they are not based on hatred and they do not teach hatred.
Q 155 Non Muslims, Second Class citizens, Islam and Non Muslims
Ans. Yes I accept that Dimmi were a second class citizens. There is
no society on earth where there is absolute equality between all people. Irrespective of what you say or write in law books, the ground realities do not change. Islam does not believe in Hypocrisy, that is why It gives clear instructions on Dimmis and their rights and duties. If you study the laws, protections and duties on religious minorities in Islamic countries and then compare it with (what was on ground) other religions or societies, it would become clear, how tolerant was Islam towards these religious minorities. Read in Bible how Jews are supposed to deal with Non Jews and Islamic laws of Dimmis would seem as from another world. It is not correct to say the Jews fought and defended their freedom on their own. The powers who created Zionist state of Israel were US and UK and Russia, Without their help Israel would not have come into being. Then they provided initial Military and Political Support to it and denied the same to its opponents. Jews in other countries were too small a minority to make any significant contribution to their defense in one way or other. I do not think that the made any contribution in any wars which muslims had with their enemies. Their loyalties were always with the enemies of Islam and muslims. May be in Europe and US , they would have made some contribution. I am not changing the subject, some one said that there was no Palestinians and there was no Palestine Culture, I was responding to that.
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Q 156 Orientalists, Method, What method they choose?
Ans. Who told you that Montgomery Watt is a respected name
amongst Muslims? It is strange that you quote from Watt and call it Islamic Sources. The best tactics of these so called Orientalists is to use materials from Islamic books and then take them out of contexts and create their own imaginary sky scrapper from them. Those who are well versed in Islamic study and faith, are often misled by these Orientalists. They are much impressed by the so many authentic looking quotes from recognized Islamic books.
Q 157 Other faith, Relationship, What is stand between Islam and other religions?
Ans. Our stand is that Islam as preached by our prophet, is the same
old religion, which was taught by all prophets of God. The basic tenets of religion (Absolute Unity of God, Prophet hood, revelation, Life after death and Individual accountability before God) remained same thru out ages. The differences was only in some practices and some rituals which were fixed suitable on individual community's conditions or requirement. God did not name His religion as Hinduism, Judaism, Buddhism or Christianity ....these names are chosen by the followers of the prophets themselves. God did not name followers of His religions as Hindus, Buddhists, Judaists, or Christians....these are names people picked for themselves after their prophets, races, nations and languages. The True religion of God was always Islam, which means total submission of our will to will of our creator. The true followers of all prophets were Muslims, which means those who submit their wills of will of their creator.
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Before Our prophet, all other prophets were sent to individual nations and for a fixed time period. Our prophet is the Last Prophet in this long chain and he is sent for all humanity and for all nations and for all times. Those who believe in our prophet, do not in any way reject the path of their own prophets, but stay clear of corruptions and deviations which were added due to passage of time.
Q 158 Other faiths, Tolerance, What Islam teaches?
Ans. I think our religion is the only religion which acknowledges that
God sent prophets and books to all people and to all nations and in all ages... It stopped after Last Prophet and Last Book was sent. In Our religion, we are taught to not revile gods of other people and religions of other people. The names people are calling our prophet, have you seen any Muslim, calling religious personalities of other faiths with the same name? It is easy for you to say that Muslim treat other people as dust under their feet, but it is not easy to prove.
Q 159 Other religion, Evolution, Is Islam most evolved religion?
Ans. Islam is the most evolved form of the religion and now any one
thinking of further evolution is in fact thinking of sliding back towards paganism and idolatry. The morality is in continuous decline since the Islam lost its pole position in shaping the world affairs. The rate of decline has become steeper after the current materialistic philosophy has taken the pole position. With the increase in the level of science and technology, there is a decline in morality and moral principles and humanity in general is the sufferer. As for you saying that God is the single cell creature, it speaks only of your narrow mindedness and your ignorance.
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Q 160 Other religion, Evolution, How Is Islam most evolved religion?
Ans. It is strange that you can laugh on serious matters like that.
The Lord God of Israel of Jews is mentioned as Lord of Universe in Islam. This is a big evolution in religious terms. The Triune God and God's son and vicarious atonement of Christianity are all blown away under the individual accountability of individuals before Lord of Universe. If these ideas are not evolution of religion in your eyes, then I do not know what else it would be. A Universal religion for all mankind, a Single book for whole mankind and a single prophet for whole mankind are the concept introduced by Islam. All other religions were content to be restricted to their own nations and national boundaries. After Islam, no other such Universal religion has come into the world. There have been many claims, but none has gained roots in all countries of the world. The book of Islam, Quran is still the purest book of Scripture on this earth, which no other scripture has achieved. So I am very right in saying that Islam is the most evolved form of religion and any thing beyond is nothing but decline.
Q 161 Other Word, Laws, Do we know the laws of that world?
Ans. I do not take offense if any one wants to discuss any thing
seriously or does so in a civil manner. But when people start using abusive language that too against the Noblest Soul that lived on this earth, then my sentiments are aroused and I cannot continue discussions with such people. Now coming to your question, what is told to us about Heaven, Hell and other things of the other world is in allegorical language. We do not know how the things will actually be there and what laws
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they would be following. God speaks to us in our language so we can make some idea of those things. How angels are created, how they move and how they perform their duties, we do not understand clearly. They perform these tasks as directed by their Creator. And so are all the events that will happen in the next world. We cannot exactly know them, because we do not have any data. But we are sure of the events happening, because Lord of Universe said so in his Revelation to our prophet. But some things which we do not understand and some things which are unreasonable are not same at all. The events described for next world are not against reason but beyond our comprehension and based on our knowledge of only Physical world.
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Chapter -6 Islam -2 (Prophet of Islam and Quran Etc) Q 162 Prophet, Marriage with Aiyesha
Ans. For some one with as sick minds as this Crusaders, how can you
argue logically. A marriage on which neither bride, nor her parents, neither any one in the society made any complaints, after 1400 years has become the subject of Child Abuse. That too for a person of such a noble character as prophet of Islam. Has some one tried to find out what were the earthly belongings of the prophet and his house hold. How they used to live, what houses they were living in, what was the food they took and what was the condition of their "palaces"? A man who married in his youth a lady who was 15 years his senior and for next 28 years lived with her, suddenly becomes a sex maniac (May Allah pardon me for using such a word, but I am speaking from his critics point of view). Not able to meet him on reasoning, logic, beauty and completeness of his faith, they have turned their guns to discredit his personality and personal life and character. Any one who studies life of our prophet with open mind and without bias, has nothing but appreciation for his upright moral character. But to a Sanitary Inspector, only bad smell is what he is after and he sees nothing in a beautiful city but sewer lines and things there. It is not the fault of city, but it is the limitation of Sanitary Inspector.
Q 163 Prophet, Orientalists , How they damage the Character of Prophet?
Ans. I do not want to engage in any long discussion with you, but
from your posts, I am able to judge that you are in a very confused state.
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You do not have in depth knowledge of Islam or Prophet’s life or Islamic history. I would point out a few of your basic problems: Islamic Sources: You say Western writers give quotations from reliable Islamic Scholars like, Bukhari, Muslim, Tabari, Waqidi , etc. Now I want to ask you, did these Islamic scholars also reached to the same conclusion about prophet’s life and character as these western writers have reached? Why no renowned Muslim Scholar ever laid these allegations on the personal life of prophet which most of Western writers are doing now? You might say, that it was only because of their blind faith and love for the prophet. If that was the case, then why they wrote down such stories in their books to start with? The reason is that, none of these stories prove what these Western writers want to prove. These people take these stories out of context and then put their own views on top of it and draw totally wrong conclusions from them. Persons like you get influenced by their seemingly scholarly way of writing style and attention to minute details, In fact there is hardly any thing scholarly or unbiased attitude in their writings.. Now I will give to some explanation for the cases which you have mentioned; A. Jews of Bani Qureza: You called that a massacre, have you ever thought about their crime and treachery at that time.? Muslim scholars state that: 1. Whole of Arab had united to attack Medina. The Muslims were outnumbered and overwhelmed. They had dug a trench to protect Medina from the invaders.
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2. Most of Male population of Medina was busy day and night attending to the trench, so that enemy is not able to cross it. 3. Muslim women and Children were put in a place which was very close to the Jews of Bani Qureza. 4. These Jews had a treaty with Muslims, that they will remain neutral in the conflict and would not support either parties. 5. The times were such that very existence of Muslim state was at stake, now at this extreme juncture these Jews broke their treaty unilaterally and Muslims were in danger from both side. Safety of women and Children was also threatened. 5a. It was only fortunate that this treachery did not result is any real danger and the enemies removed the siege without attaining their aim. 6. Once the Confederates left Medina, prophet turned his attention to this Treacherous tribe of Jews and laid a siege on them. 7. After a few days the Jews agreed to abide by the decision of an Arbitrator, whom the Jews themselves selected. The arbitrator decided that all males were to be killed and women and children were to be made prisoner. 8. That action was according to the Jews own book as to how to deal with a defeated population. Prophet implemented this decision, and that was the best way at that time. 9. There is nothing harsh or cruel about it. They had to face the consequences of their actions. 9A. Do you not see how nations react when their security is at stake. There is no need to apologize or feel bad about this decision of prophet. 10. That is the view of Renowned Muslim Scholars and see how Western writers present it as the proof of cruelty and blood thirstiness of prophet. B. Did Prophet Assassinated every one who openly Criticised him?
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You have gone over board when you said that Muslim and Non Muslim scholars agree that prophet Assassinated every one who openly criticized him. Can you give the name of Muslim Scholars who said that? 1. Did you not know that during his 13 years preaching at Makkah, most of Leaders there openly Criticised the prophet, did he kill any one? 2. If you say, that he did not had power then, what the prophet did when he captured Makkah? How many of those people he killed? Even the people who were killed were for other crime and not for criticizing the prophet openly. 3. In Medina there were many hypocrites, despite Quranic injunctions to deal with them firmly, how many of these hypocrites did prophet kill? 4. You mentioned the names of Kaab Bib Ashraf and Abu Rafe’ and one or two more. These people were not killed for openly criticizing the prophet openly. They were killed because they were ridiculing the prophet and Muslim and Muslim women thru their poetry. In Arab of those days, poetry was the best media of propagation. 5. These people were Jews and it was not in public interest to kill them openly, that is why prophet allowed these people to be assassinated secretly to save lot of blood shed. Do modern day states do not use these tactics to silence their opponents? How many world leaders of Third World Countries have bees assassinated by CIA, KGB and Mosad ? 6. Our prophet was an able but practical leader of humankind. He chose the path which would be safest and would cause least amount of blood shed. But he was not an Idle preacher. His Job was to establish Kingdom Of God on This Earth. Do you know that total number of casualties (on both side) do not reach even 1000 in ten years of continuous warfare of our prophet. With so little blood shed, the prophet was able to conquer (for ever) a country of the size of Saudi Arabia. There have been many warriors and fighters and tyrants thru out human history , Is there any other such example.
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I feel shame that I am having this discussion with a man, who was once a Muslim. I also feel shame as to what is the depth of knowledge of our so called educated Muslims.
Q164 Prophet, Does our prophet needs praise?
Ans. Our prophet does not need any praise from guys like you. The list of his admirers is very great and include some of the best and most famous names in world history. The list of his detractors include people like Salman Rushdie, Taslima Nasreen, Sound Doc, and you and some bad mouthed persons like you. Your tirade against him does not count any thing. His name was Mohammad, which means "Praised one". according to a Western Writer, that was probably first time in History that a man was named Properly. You and Sound Doc. 's abuses against his personality does not lower his dignity in any way. And I do not care what you say about him. You are filling you sack on iniquity by laying baseless charges against him
Q 165 Prophet Hood, Why we accept him?
Ans. What you say about Prophet Mohammad (May peace be on him),
same things Jews said about Prophet Jesus!!! How do you respond to Jews for their accusations about Jesus? This is how goes on in the world, new prophets come from God renewing and reforming the religion of God....but the followers of old prophets reject them and form a new sect for themselves. It is not strange if same thing happened to you also....I have full sympathy with you... Do carry on your tirade....But there are people with eyes, ears and
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hearts who listen, see and contemplate about the message of True Prophets of God. They join and keep joining this universal religion. I have been posting and keep on posting (God Willing) true stories of these new entrants into the religion of Islam. You on your part are free to spread as much lies as you can...May Satan Help you with all his might.
Q 166 Prophet Hood, Why we accept him?
Ans. What you say about Prophet Mohammad (May peace be on him),
same things Jews said about Prophet Jesus!!! How do you respond to Jews for their accusations about Jesus? This is how goes on in the world, new prophets come from God renewing and reforming the religion of God....but the followers of old prophets reject them and form a new sect for themselves. It is not strange if same thing happened to you also....I have full sympathy with you... Do carry on your tirade....But there are people with eyes, ears and hearts who listen, see and contemplate about the message of True Prophets of God. They join and keep joining this universal religion. I have been posting and keep on posting (God Willing) true stories of these new entrants into the religion of Islam. You on your part are free to spread as much lies as you can...May Satan Help you with all his might.
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Q 167 Prophet, Test, Are Prophesies test for a True Prophet?
1. The real test of a True Prophet is in his teachings and in his messages. Miracles and Prophecies are not the Real Tests for a True Prophet. Jesus told us about false prophets “That they would show many signs and wonders so as to deceive even the every elect…” That is why, we Muslims do not try to prove the prophet hood of our prophet by quoting Miracles and Prophesies from Quran and book of Traditions (and there is no lack of them in any of them). However, some people are pining for these prophecies, so let me give some from Quran: 1. Allah says to His Messenger “And Allah will save you from men…” 5:67. This was made when the Prophet was surrounded by his enemies on every front. Despite all these, the prophet was unharmed and died a natural and peaceful death. 2. Allah says to His Messenger, regarding the ongoing war between Roman and Persian Empires “The Romans are defeated , in a land close by, but they after this defeat of theirs will soon be victorious, in a few years…”30:2-4 This prophecy was fulfilled exactly as Quran predicted in less that 10 years. Lucky Guess? What would you say Mr. Noetics? 3. The Third and most important of the prophecy is mentioned in three places in Quran : “It is He (i.e. God) who has send His Messenger (i.e. Mohammad) with guidance (i.e. Quran) and a True way of life (i.e. Islam) so as to proclaim it over all ways of life (i.e. other isms)…” That prophesy was made 1400 years back and since that date, Islam is always on the path of growth. It is still the fastest growing religion on the face of earth. Condition when receiving Revelation:
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1. You have no actual eye witness record of any prophet as to what was their condition when they received revelation from God. 2. But there is ample inside evidence as to suggest that there was change in their physical conditions. When Holy Spirit came to Apostle of Jesus (on Pentecost day), they started speaking in different tongues, what was that? Then there are phrases that “On the day of Lord I was in Spirit…” which show some thing different. 3. If some one suffering from illness or Epilepsy (as his modern day enemies think) can produce a marvelous book like Quran….then the world does need more such people!!
Q 168 Prophet, Wishful thinking, What if, there was no Mohammad?
Ans. Exactly the thoughts of ABU JAHL, ABU LAHAB, UMAIYYA BIN
KHALAF & Others (Sworn enemy of the Prophet), and the same thoughts of William Muir, Prof. Morgoloth & others (Modern haters of the Prophet)... All lovers of Darkness would wish that there was no light...or if any one brought light, it should be extinguished immediately.... I am happy to see that on which side of fence you have placed yourself... That was your wish, now listen to the Wish of Creator and Sustainer of This Universe, the Almighty God: "It is He (i.e. God) who has sent His Messenger (i.e. Mohammad) with guidance (i.e. Quran) and a True way of life (i.e. Islam); so as to proclaim it over all other ways of life, how-so-much the unbelievers may dislike it". What else is 1400 years history of Islam and World than fulfillment of this Quranic Prophesy? I can see and smell the jealousy inside your hearts .... But truth shall always prevail and false hood shall always perish, because Truth Has Come to Stay and by Nature False Hood is the thing that perishes.
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Q 169 Prophet hood, False Claimants , Do they negate claims of True Prophet?
Ans. Just because there are so many claimants of prophet hood in the
past many centuries....does not negate the claim of true prophets of God. Just because there are many Quakes posing themselves as medical Doctors....does not negate the claim of a genuine Medical Doctor.... Just because there are so many Pseudo Scientists posing as Scientists, does not negate the claim of a true Scientist. Just because there are so many dishonest and corrupt politicians, does not negate the claim of a honest and sincere politicians. Just because there are so many "World' Best" products in the market....negate the claim of A Genuinely Good product So every claim of Prophet Hood must be checked and verified. As Jesus said "By their fruits you shall know them...do you get fruits out of thistles...every good tree shall bear good fruits and every bad tree shall bear bad fruit...." So we have to analyse the claim of each of co called claimant of prophet hood and then decide on their claims If after your honest and unbiased analysis, you find that claims of any one of them is justified, you go and be his follower....there is no compulsion on you. But you cannot reject or accept all of them, just because there are so many of so called prophets. How much dirt is to be removed and discarded before you find a real gem or Diamond, or a nugget of Pure Old?
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Q 170 Qibla, Jerusalem, Why Muslims do not face Jerusalem during prayers?
Ans. In fact, for the first 15 years of his 23 years prophetic mission,
our prophet faced towards Jerusalem during prayers. Even though most Arabs and he himself wanted that Kaaba at Makkah should be their directions of prayers. But it was a command from God, and they obeyed it. In 15th year of his mission, the command came form God to now change the direction from Jerusalem towards Kaaba and he obeyed it. In essence all directions belong to God, and as Quran says “It is not (entire) righteousness that you turn your face towards east or west…” Chapter 2: Verse 177. The direction of prayer is not everything or Dogmatic. The real reasons for this shifting of directions is known to God only, but to us it could be because of: 1. Kaaba was built by Prophet Abraham and Jerusalem site was selected by Jacob, many decades after Abraham. So Kaaba had a preference over Jerusalem when selecting a Qibla as Universal direction. 2. The change was indication to Jews and Christians that the religious leadership of world has been taken from their hands and given to another nation. 3. Warnings to this change in leadership is present in both Old Testament Books and also in New Testament books.
Q 171 Quran, Arabic, Can Quran be understood only in Arabic ?
Ans. Whosoever told you that Quran can be understood only in Old
Quraishi language was not speaking the truth or you misunderstood his meaning. Quran the Word of God is revealed in the Arabic Language and The Word of God should be recited in that language. Arabic is not a dead language and it is still well spoken and well understood in the world. There are more than 50 countries whose
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official language is Arabic. So it is as difficult as English, or French or Spanish for those who do not speak these languages. The Quran has been translated into different world languages by Islamic Scholars and it is perfectly Ok to understand the meaning of Quran in your own language. But these translations do not become Word of God and cannot take the place of Original Quran which is written in Arabic. In regular prayers, we have to recite Quran in Arabic and not in any other language. For God all languages are same, but revelations are sent to prophets the language which they speak. That is why Moses was given revelation in Hebrew and Jesus in Aramaic and so on. There is no superiority per see of any language over another. I hope that I am able to clarify your doubt
Q 172 Quran , Beauty, Surah KAUTHAR
Ans. As a non Arabic speaking, I do not blame you. You cannot
understand the real beauty of Surah KAUTHAR. The Translations can convey its general meaning, but not the depth and beauty of original Arabic Composition. Let me give you a little back ground. When the Quran was revealed, that was the golden age of Arabic Literature and Arabic Poetry. The Arabs used their Poetry and Sermon delivering skills to show their superiority over one another. They used to call Non Arabs as AJAM which means Dumb. It was in that Golden Age of Arabic Poetry and Arabic Sermon Skills that Quran was revealed. As an expert of Poetry and Sermon giving, the Arabs realized that this is par excellence. Quran challenged these Arabs to match Quran in its content and style, they could not. We have records of various arguments and various charges that they laid against our prophet. They even fought many battles against our prophet, but they never took the Quranic Challenge to bring one Surah like it.
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Take this smallest surah Al KAUTHAR, before the Quran, Arabs had hung seven of their best Poetic Compilations on the door of Kaaba. These seven according to them were the highest in Arabic Poetry. When this short Quranic Surah was revealed, someone hung that also on the door of Kaaba and one by one all of those seven poets took back their poems!!! Mark you that was the time when Pagans had their sway in Makkah. One day a Bedouin came to visit Kaaba and he read the Surah hung on the door of Kaaba. He was amazed and he wrote in Arabic “These are not human words” and went back!! Now you ask me what is so remarkable here, which no translators was able to reproduce. See the third Translation, he did not Translate the word KAUTHAR. Because you cannot translate this Arabic word in one word at all. It means abundance upon abundance upon abundance. In every thing material or spiritual. In one word God told our prophet that you are given abundance of every thing. It might be power, respect . praise, followers, peace of mind every thing in this life and in the next life. The second verse tells as to what prophet should do to praise God for giving him that honor. It is so precise and so short and covers all bodily and monetary acts, that it is amazing that it can be put in just Three Arabic Words. The third verse, has a history behind it. See our prophet had four daughters and three sons from his first wife. It so happened that one by one his all three sons died. Pagans of Makkah taunted our prophet by saying that he has become ABTAR, i.e. one without roots. They surmised that since prophet has no male issue , his progeny would end with him and there would be no one to take his name. In reference to that God says that “It is your enemies that are ABTAR”. This was a consolation as well as a great prophesy. Now after 1400 years, there are 1500 Million followers of Prophet Mohammad and what about his enemies? No one knows even their names, unless he opens books. They have become rootless. Quran is not only beautiful poetry or mere eloquence of style, its every word is true. That is what separates it from other poetry. In normal poetry the more you exaggerate, the better it becomes. If you just speak truth in your poetry, it is not impressive.
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I do not say that many beautiful or moral teachings are not available in Chinese or other world language, but Quran is exceptional in its Arabic style, composition and content.
Q 173 Quran, Challenge, What Arab Christians say?
Ans. I think you are right that Arab Christians will say that there is nothing remarkable in Quran and it is just like Old Arabian Poetry. I know that you are not very familiar with Arabic language, but ask them to recite the Best of the Best old Arabic Poetry. Then just listen to recitation of Quran from any where in Quran by any of the recognized Quranic Reciter. Even you with little Arabic Knowledge, would be able to judge the difference between the two. That is the power and magic of Quran. It is not for nothing that so many Non Muslims get attracted to Quran the moment they read it. Quran is still the best source for getting new Islamic converts. Read other replies which I have posted. May be it would make the matter some what clearer
Q 174 Quran, Challenge, What IF some one meets it?
Ans. Your words are only in the air, to say that IF some one meets all
the requirements, Muslims wont be satisfied has a big IF in it. You satisfy 20 Million Arab Christians at least!! To say that our prophet learned some Biblical stories and then modified them to suit his purpose does not cut any ice either. Our prophet only traveled two times out of Makkah for short business trips. Once when he was a boy of 12 years and once when he was 24 years of age. After that he never went outside Makkah. If you think it is possible for a man who does not know how to read and how to write, get all the material from Bible from hearsay and then edit it in his mind and then reproduce it after so many years, then he should have claimed Divinity and not mere Prophet Hood. If you have any doubt, check the story of Prophet Joseph told in Gen Chapter 37 to Chapter 50 and that then see how Quran condense that
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in one Chapter of Quran, Chapter 12, you will realize what I am saying. Then in Quranic Version you will see that morals of the stories is totally different from Biblical narrations. The similarity is only on the names and not in the message they convey. So the Quranic challenge is not for the gullible, it is for serious minded people.
Q 175 Quran, Concoction, Did Prophet made it up?
Ans. That is a very good point, and that is what Quran challenges all
Humans to do!!! If Mohammad made up all that, what prevents other humans to make some thing better than that!!! So if you accuse Mohammad of making it up, just make up one Surah like Quran and present it to the world... However if you cannot do it, and Surely you will not to be able to do it, then....
Q 176 Quran , Contradiction, Does Quran contradicts itself?
Ans. I think you are at mistake to say that in these examples Quran
Contradicts itself. Human being has passed thru all these stages mentioned in Quran, Dust, Clay, Sounding Clay, Sperm and Mingled Sperm, ALAQAH, MUDGHA etc… So if Quran mentions one stage at one place and another at another place, that will not be called as contradiction. It will be a contradiction, if at no stage human passed thru the stage mentioned in Quran. ALLAH indeed is ALL Knowing, it is humans who have a limited vision and are very eager to put our wit against His at the drop of hat!!
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Q 177 Quran, Contradictions, Are their contradictions in Quran?
Ans. There is no contradiction or mistake in Quran which is revelation
from Allah. The contradiction is in your own minds, who try to distort the meanings to arrive at your own desired results. I explained that to you regarding various stages of human creation, there was no mistake or error in Quranic description, it was only in your own reasoning. Now you have come up with some more points. God Willing I will clarify these, then you will come up with another lest and God willing I will clarify that also…it would be endless exercise. Because you are not sincere in your research and are picking up points mentioned on Anti Islamic sites. I do not know what is your religion, but have you tried the same tests and same standards for your own Scriptures? If you are an Atheist and do not believe in any God, then what is the purpose of these exchanges? Why should you care if there be mistakes and contradiction sin Quran and other scriptures? Now let us come to the points you referred: A. Number of Angels: Q. Allah helped Muhammad with one thousand angels in succession (following one another: Gabriel led five hundred of them, and Michael led five hundred of them—ibn Kathir). Contradiction: 3:125 says Allah helped Muhammad in Badr with five thousand angel soldiers. Ans. There were many battles between Muslims and pagan Arabs and number of angels send by God on each occasions could be different. So where is the problem or contradiction? B. Stages of Creation Six days or Eight Days: Q. 11:7 Allah created the Heavens (first) and the earth (second) in six days; (then) Allah conducts justice from His throne which is above water; you will be raised after death (before Allah created the heavens and the earth His throne was above water—ibn Kathir). Contradiction: 2:29 says Allah created the earth first. Contradiction: 41:9 12 talks about eight days of creation. Contradiction: 2:117 says Allah creates instantly
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Ans. First you should note that in Quranic description, "Day" is not 24 hours period as mentioned in Biblical version of Creation. It is used in plural, that means a period of indefinite time. An Epoch, the Universe was created in six epochs is not against any established scientific theories. These stages could have been overlapping, so if you add individual period it comes to eight days but from beginning to end, it was six days. So there is no contradiction or mistake here. C. Noah's Sons: Q. 11:42 43 : Noah’s son (Noah’s fourth son Yam, he had refused to embrace Islam and join Noah in his ark—ibn Kathir) was drowned in the flood because he was a disbeliever. Contradiction: 21:76 says Allah saved Noah’s family that included his son. Ans. Quran does not mention the name of Noah's son who perished in the flood. Bible does not mention that any of Noah's son drowned in flood. Quran says that Allah will save Noah and his family except those of them against whom the word has already gone forth (23:27) and in another place Allah tells Noah that his disobedient son is not of his family (11:46). Allah does not care mere blood relationship, a prophet's family are those who follow his message. So there is no mistake or contradiction here. D. Marrying women of People of Book: Q. Sura 5: al Maeda (The Table Spread) 5:5 Foods of the people of the Book are lawful for Muslims and vice versa. Lawful in marriage (for Muslim men) are: chaste believing women; chaste women of the Book (i.e., Jewish and Christian women). Contradiction: 2:221 says do not marry idolatresses. Contradiction: 9:30 says Christians and the Jews are idolaters. Ans. Allah allows Muslim men to marry chaste women from People of Book. That is a general command. Allah does not say that all People of Book are Unbelievers, It says certainly those are unbelievers who say such and such…. So That part of People of Book are unbelievers and Muslim men may not marry their women.
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So there is no contradiction or mistake in Quranic narration. It is only in your head. I will be awaiting next list from you!! By the way, please try to write a ten page essay on any subject… I will find umpteen contradiction and mistake and error in that. Try to correct this mentality of looking for mistakes in every nook and corner. Quran is the book that has gone thru much more attention than any other book in existence on this earth.
Q 178 Quran, Eloquence, Can it be compared with English poetry?
Ans. Using as few words to convey one’s thoughts is a desirable but
not absolute requirement of eloquence. Arabic (and most eastern languages for that sake) use lesser words and syllabus that modern European languages. That is the genesis of these languages. But that is not the point of debate. I said that Arabic Word “Zikr” has very deep meanings and shades than the English word “Remember”. Listen to what Abdullah Yousuf Ali has to say on this: “The word “remember” is too pale a word for Zikr, which has now acquired a large number of associations in our religious literature. In its verbal significance it implies; to remember, to praise by frequent mentioning, to rehearse, to celebrate, to commemorate, to make much of, to cherish the memory of as a precious possession” Did I day any thing else in my post? In fact no language can be fully translated into another language. Every language has its own rules, style and characteristics, which are very difficult to reproduce into another language. Translations are only to convey the meaning of passage into another language. This is not the case with Arabic Alone. I doubt any translations of William Shakespeare into other language could reproduce the same grandeur, power and beauty found in original composition. We are not for any superiority of any language over others. All languages are from God and equally liked by their speakers.
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If you think English language has no limitations or weaknesses, then it is your error. But this is the language which is most popular in world and many people can communicate with each other thru it. But American English is different from British English. Indian English (As used by Indians with Local South Indian, Bengali, Punjabi and so many touches) is a world of its own. Having said so, Allah revealed Quran in Arabic and it claims to be revealed word of God. In Quran Allah challenges the enemies of prophet that if you think, he faked it or wrote in himself , then what prevents you from faking or writing something like it yourselves? That was a very fair and open challenge. Now our debaters here (Chimney and like) who do not know a single word of Arabic come here and say, what is so special about Quranic Arabic, why cant Shakespeare works be compared with Quran? You can see the absurdity of this approach. To compare you should compare two equal things. That challenge was and is for Arab people and people who know Arabic language. There were many enemies of our Prophet at that time, they fought, sacrifice their lives and got subdued in the end, they tried every means to finish off our prophet and his religion. The thing they could not do was to compete against Quran. There are millions of Arabic speaking Christians in Arab lands and they are Christians since generations, there are innumerable numbers of Bible translations in Arabic. Ask any Arabic Scholar (Muslim or Non Muslim) do they come in the same class? The answer is no!! Not only that, Quran is still in our hands in the same form as it was revealed. The challenge is still open and there are no takers. Comparing English Translation of Quran with English literature is not correct, because translations are works of humans and not God.
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It is like, if I claim that this Urdu Drama is much better than Shakespeare and when questioned I present Urdu Translation of Shakespeare’s Drama (done by an Englishman knowing some Urdu) as evidence !!! This is the logic on which Chimney and his likes work… and they call themselves reasonable and logical. I replied to you in some detail, because you it seems are new to this thread and we did not exchange much posts.
Q 179 Quran, Eloquence, Some pointers
Ans. It is very clear that appreciation of quality of literature is not
your field and it is hardly surprising (a life spend in believing and justify BTOE does not create in one the appreciation of literature). From your comments it is also evident that if you consider human composition and divine revelation in same category, then you should be more pitied than censored. In fact the Half Quranic Verse “You Remember me, I will remember you” is much more powerful, expressive and beautiful than the twenty odd verses of poetry that went before it. The power and vitality of Quranic verse is missing in the poem. Then that was the case with English translation, in Original Arabic the verse in question consists of just two Arabic Words “FADHKURUNI ADHKURUKUM” , which in English takes seven words (that is another beauty of Arabic Language). English word Remember is a very poor Translation of Arabic Word Zikr. In fact Zikr cannot be translated in a single English Word, because there are so many shades of meanings present in the Arabic word Zikr, that whole chapters have been written on this word only. May be our H.E. Self Claimed Expert and Authority on Islam and All other World Religions, D.D. ZAHID could help you on that (if he does not wear his Islam bashing hat at that moment). If you have an Iranian wife, may be she could teach some of the meanings of Powerful Arabic Vocabulary used in Quran.
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Q 180 Quran, Eloquence, Why it is unique?
Ans. I sure have got so many posts, that I cannot reply to them
individually. The beauty is that most of your objections have been answered in Quran itself. It says that Pagans say, if we willed, we would also have written a book like Quran!!! But in reality they did not write anything. The truth is that Quranic challenge stays to this day. It is immaterial if Old or New Arabic Poetry is sung by professionals, or set by Music, whatever they do, they cannot match the effect which Quran has. Because Quran is no poetry at all. Its verses do not always rhyme, they are not always of equal size. Quran is not like conventional prose either. It is guidance from Lord and Creator of this Universe. Our job is not to enforce our views on others. I have stated the facts and position. If you do not like it, it is up to you. You cannot convince any one with these type of arguments.
Q 181 Quran, Satan, Did Satan wrote Quran?
Ans. It was probably Satan who wrote in his book "that before you
read my book, take refuge with God against Satan" !!! How dumb some people become, when it comes to malign faith of others. In a book written by Satan, He will preach : - to believe and worship only one God, -Pray to God regularly, -fast, -give charity,
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-be kind to your parents, -Deal justly with others, -do not speak lie - Strive in the cause of God - all humans are equal and created by same God If Satan can teach these things, then I wonder what would the Book of God would teach? Some examples could be: - Prophet Lot committed incest with his two daughters. - Judah committed incest with his daughter in law Tamar, and brought forth twins, who are in the genealogy of Jesus and all other prophets. - David committed adultery with Wife of Uriah and then got Uriah killed thru deceit. - That Solomon worshipped false gods and made temples for them in his old age. - That Aaron made a golden calf and worshipped it and asked others also to worship it. - That Reuben, Son of Jacob , committed incest with the wife of his father. May be if similar stories were to be found in Quran, people could believe that indeed it was from God!! How dumb people become when it comes to criticizing other faiths!!
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Q 182 Religion, Oldest religion, Did prophet bring any new religion?
Ans. You did not read my post carefully.
Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) never claimed to bring any new religion. He only claimed to be the Last in the Long Chain of Prophets. He only confirmed what revelation came before him, and purified the corruptions and mistakes which had been introduced into the true religion of God. You are right, Arabs, just before the time of our prophet had fallen into Idolatry, but Idol Worship was not their original religion. They descended from Abraham and Ishmael and both these prophets were the stand bearer of Strict Monotheism. Our prophet purified the religion of Abraham, the religion of Ishmael, the religion of Isaac, the religion of Jacob….the religion of Islam, i.e. submitting one’s will to the Will of Its Creator
Q 183 Saudi Arabia, Tolerance, Why no Churches in KSA?
Ans. Saudi Arabia is a 100 % Muslim state, none of its citizen belong
to any other faith. It is Vanguard of Islam. It is not logical for Saudi Arabia to Import people of other religions and then build places of worship for them. Jews and Christians and Hindus and people of other religion who come to work in Saudi Arabia, come after signing a contract that they will abide by the local rules and customs. They pray and worship according to their religions in their homes and not at public places. No body forces them to come to Saudi Arabia if they do not like it. In countries like Israel and elsewhere, these people of other religions are citizens of Israel and have the right to live there and be not discriminated against. But despite this they face persecution. The two situations are totally different if you have proper sense of justice and impartiality.
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Q 184 Sects, Non Muslims, Non Muslims should join which sect?
Ans. I do not want any one to become member of any of the
"Belligerent Islamic Sects". Our invitation is for people to become Muslim. Prophet and God never named Muslims in any word other than Muslims or believers. So those are the titles that are fit for Muslims. Quran and Hadith warn Muslims against dividing themselves into sects and fight with each other. If some Muslims do that, then it is not the fault of Quran or Prophet. So any one who likes the teachings of Quran and teachings of prophet, should become Muslim and not member of any sect. By the way, what would you advise any one who wants to become Christian? Join RC or Protestant or Methodist, or Baptists, or Jehovah 's Witness or which of these thousands of Christian Churches and sects? Muslims are far less divided than you Christians (Not that I want Muslims to be divided). I was just answering your charge. Before criticizing others, you first look at yourself.
Q 185 Shariah, Application, Boon or Bane?
Ans. What Shariah meant for Saudi Arabia? It made that country as
one of the safest country in the world. It has the lowest crime rate compared to any other country in the world. This is the case when only a partial of Islamic Shariah is implemented here. Only Criminal justice is according to Shariah in this country. Economic, and Political systems are not touched. If full advantage of Islamic Shariah are to be enjoyed then whole system shall be according to Islamic Shariah. Islamic Shariah is not just chopping off hands of thieves and stoning adulterous married women to death, that is Criminal justice part of it. But the social justice part, to provide work and / or subsistence to
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those weaker sections who are unable to work is also part of Islamic Shariah. Only taking Jizya is not Islamic Shariah, but to provide full protection to those communities and their religious places and their scriptures is also part of Islamic Shariah. You are very opt to put the case of BANI QUREZA, but you forget to tell how prophet dealt with other Jewish tribes in Arabia. BANU QAINUQAH, BANI NADHEER, Jews of Khaibar etc? How Crusaders dealt with Muslims in Jerusalem and How Muslims were treated in Spain, was it according to Islamic Shariah? You are very Adept in coining phrases, You tried WAHABISM, not TALIBINAZIATION is the new cue world. What is means no one knows, it is in your head. Islam and its rules are for all ages, they do not change with time. That is why principle of Islamic Shariah remain same in all ages.
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Q 186 Shariah, Flexibility, What are the limits?
Ans. I read your post with interest and endorse many points that you
have mentioned. We indeed have lots of common points, since we are humans and human nature does indeed has many common things. I do not reject Modernism as you have mentioned, but I said that Modernism has to be viewed within its prescribed limits. Islam does has flexibility in its laws to move with time, so long as these do not go beyond the prescribed limits. For example segregation of males and females and avoiding free mixing of sexes is a basic issue in Islam. Now to take care of changing circumstances, we could have separate colleges and universities for males and females. Their jobs areas could be separate. There could be women only factories and establishments. None of these is against progress and educating females. Males and females are made complimentary to each other and not as each other’s competitors. Now you mentioned that Taliban stoned adulterous married women to death, to you it looked barbaric, but this is punishment according to Islamic laws. In any society if this punishment is implemented on one women, it removes the evil of adultery from the society. This is a tested thing. No amount of prison or other sentences are able to remove this evil from any society as is evident from the data we see from other countries. You asked, then why Muslims do not raise their voices against the so called terrorism, the answer is that when the desires of major population to live according to Islamic laws are denied by their rulers, they start to support any group that promises that. If the Western Powers remove their Anti Shariah attitude and help Muslim states to implement Shariah or at least be neutral, then these extremist group will not get popular support. But the Western Powers support all these dictators or leaders who rule against the wishes of common people in their so country, Western Powers only look for those leaders who are opposed to Islam and its values and will toe the line of these powers one way or other. This in my view is the root cause of this so called violence in Muslim countries.
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Q 187 Shariah, Fruits, What are Fruits for KSA?
Ans. What Shariah meant for Saudi Arabia? It made that country as
one of the safest country in the world. It has the lowest crime rate compared to any other country in the world. This is the case when only a partial of Islamic Shariah is implemented here. Only Criminal justice is according to Shariah in this country. Economic, and Political systems are not touched. If full advantage of Islamic Shariah are to be enjoyed then whole system shall be according to Islamic Shariah. Islamic Shariah is not just chopping off hands of thieves and stoning adulterous married women to death, that is Criminal justice part of it. But the social justice part, to provide work and / or subsistence to those weaker sections who are unable to work is also part of Islamic Shariah. Only taking Jizya is not Islamic Shariah, but to provide full protection to those communities and their religious places and their scriptures is also part of Islamic Shariah. You are very opt to put the case of BANI QUREZA, but you forget to tell how prophet dealt with other Jewish tribes in Arabia. BANU QAINUQAH, BANI NADHEER, Jews of Khaibar etc? How Crusaders dealt with Muslims in Jerusalem and How Muslims were treated in Spain, was it according to Islamic Shariah? You are very Adept in coining phrases, You tried WAHABISM, not TALIBINAZIATION is the new cue world. What is means no one knows, it is in your head. Islam and its rules are for all ages, they do not change with time. That is why principle of Islamic Shariah remain same in all ages. Islam is not a label but a state of belief, the Word Muslim itself means the one who has surrendered himself or herself to Allah's will. Unless a Muslim be hypocrite how can he not obey the Laws and Commandments of Allah? Therefore to live according to Allah's laws is the basic job of every Muslim. You like it or not, so long as Islam and Muslims are existing on this earth, they will continue to strive live according to Allah's
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Commandments. So your definition of TALIBINAZATION and WAHABISM etc. are of your own concoction and have no Islamic basis. Islam and its rules are one and same and they are for all ages.
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Q 188 Shariah, Punishment, Are they Moderate?
Ans. What is moderate about killing a Convicted Murderer by putting
a noose around his neck and hanging him on a post? Or Electrocuting him on Electric Chair or Put Him in a Gas Chamber? The punishment given to any Criminal is the reward for his own actions. It is God who has Judged and told that Fornicating males and females have to be flogged one hundred times. It is not we who have ordained this punishment. And God is more Merciful than any of us or you. But some times even most loving Father punishes his darling sons and daughters for over all good of themselves and the society. By flogging people 100 times Saudi Arabia has become the safest country in the world with lowest crime rates, whereas your Merciful society is plagued with ever increasing crime rates.
Q 189 Shariah, Wants, Why demand is more in Britain than in Pak?
Ans. The answer to your charge that only 10 % Muslims support
Shariah in Pakistan while 40 % Muslims support it in Britain could be explained on the basis that majority of Muslims in Pakistan are uneducated so they do not understand full implication of Shariah and what it means. Their landlords and local chiefs mislead them and they give their votes to so called secular parties. The so called religious parties have no strong leader and there is always infighting between them on minor issues. But it is wrong to say that majority of Muslims in Pakistan are fed up with Islam, no they are as staunch supporter of Islam as any other place. The British Muslims are more educated and they know what is the meaning of Shariah and what is its implications. How good it is for the society and that is why more people support it.
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Shariah is not a monster as it is project by western media. It is an alternative and better means to ensure social and secular justice to the land. It is moderate and based on human nature and guidance received from the Creator of human being. The phrase TALIBINAZATION does not exist any where in Islamic jurisprudence or its laws. It is a bogey and rallying point that has been created by western media. You have quoted the example of prophet as related to BANI QYURAIZA, but you forgot how he dealt with the people of Makkah, How he dealt with the people of Taif, How he dealt with the people of HAWAZIN, How he dealt with so many other tribes who were defeated in war. All in all your posts show your Anti Islamic Bias and you want to twist its message to derive your own hatred from it. Islam is a religion of peace, but for those who want peace. For Oppressors, Tyrants and doers of Injustice it is a warrant of death. It depends on which side you want to place yourself. If you are against Oppression, Tyranny and Injustice, then you are on the side of Islam otherwise you are on opposite side. What do you choose?
Q 190 War, Prince of War, Are Christians followers of prince of peace?
Ans. Chris: The true Prince of peace, not the Prince of War.
MUQ: It looks very good to describe Jesus as Prince of Peace, but in fact Christians have shed more human blood than all other religions combined. The early history of Church, the dark ages, the Medieval ages, Spanish Inquisitions, Extermination of Red Indians from North and South America, Extermination of Aborigines from Australia and New Zealand are all the fruits of followers of Prince of Peace. Then loss of Human lives by the followers of Prince of Peace in WW-1 and WW-2 alone are more than blood shed by followers of all other religions combined. Even now the followers of Prince of Peace have stockpile of most deadly weapons than combined arsenal of all other religions combined.
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Ask the followers of Prince of Peace, why you need all these armament and most deadly weapons, they would tell that these are needed to maintain Peace in the World!!! So sometimes wars are inevitable to maintain peace in the world and that is the teaching of one, whom you have termed as Prince of War. Our prophet was the Most peaceful of all so called warriors and most successful of so called warriors. With the loss of less than 1000 lives (on both sides), he was able to conquer the area of the size of Arabia for an everlasting possession. Compare how many human lives were lost by Jewish prophets and warriors to conquer the tiny piece of Land we call as Israel and how temporary have been those conquests. It is easy to label anyone the way we like.
Q 191 West, New Converts, Do most New Converts turn back?
Ans. I do not deny that some one entering Islam in west, would
renegade to his older ways. That is natural. People enter Islam with different reasons, some people just join Islam as a passing fashion or for other reasons. They might turn their backs, when they are asked to tighten their lives and habits according to Islam. What I am posting are sincere stories of those who have accepted Islam after lots of studies and deliberations. Many of them suffered hardships and sacrificed much for the faith of Islam. You would not find such people turning their backs on Islam. In fact these people show us light as to how a Muslim should live. We feel that we old Muslims are nothing compared to their level of beliefs.
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Q 192 Women, Dress, Can women wear Swim Suits?
Ans. Women could wear swim suits and bikinis in front of other
women in "Women Only" type of beaches. They should not display their naked bodies for others to feast on their private parts. It is not correct for them to tempt males and when one is tempted punish that male. In a good society the opportunities for temptation should be kept minimum. That is why Islam has banned free mixing of sexes and also prohibited Alcohol and other drugs that loosen the self control of humans. You cannot put Petrol and Flame together and then hope it wont explode. Islam believes on the principle "Prevention is better than cure" and not to put too much temptation in their path and then judge if they succeed in controlling their behaviour. Islam is a religion for common humans and not for angels or for devils.
Q 193 Women Right, Monetary Authority, Has Women right to spend their husband’s money?
Ans. I have read many of your posts and I like your tone and honest way of putting things. You have said many things right about your own society and about our society.
When there is so much mistrust and so much media propaganda, it is interesting to find so much balanced comments from your side. I would only touch about the case that you said about beating wife by husband… Let me tell you, that as per Islamic law, women has full authority to spend following kind of money and no one, even husband, has authority to stop her spending it.
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1. Money that was paid to her at the time of marriage by Husband called Mehar. 2. Money or gifts that she received as marriage gift from her family, relatives or from husband or his family. 3. Money or property that she inherited from her father, mother, brother or other members of her family. That includes any money she had from her previous marriages. 4. Any money that she earns from doing business or trade from her personal money. 5. The money that she gets from her husband every month for her private expenses. And Husband has to pay her that maintenance allowance every month. The amount depends on the earning capacity of husband. So you see that Islam gives very liberal rights to women to spend her own money and she is not asked to spend this money to maintain any one. Not on her husband, not on her children and not even on her parents. Only man has to spend money to maintain his wife, his children , his parents, his sisters and other close relatives if they be in need. That burden he has to carry thru out his life. The question comes, has woman right to spend the money belonging to her husband in any way she likes. Suppose you are man and you are saving money to buy a house, start a business, or saving money to pay mortgage, insurance or higher study of your sons and daughters and one day you find that your wife has spend all that money without taking your permission on some extravagance dresses or jewelry. How would you feel? And what should you do? I know in western media, women is always represented as the suffering party and man as the aggressor. But it might not be always true. Islam gives rights to both men and women and both should limit themselves to their limits. There is one case where a woman is allowed to use her husband’s money, without his permission and that is when the husband is miser
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and does not give woman enough money needed for maintenance of herself and her children. And the authority of that goes right to the times of prophet, when one woman asked him “My husband is miser and does not give enough money so I can maintain myself and my children, Is it OK, if I take some money without telling him?” The prophet replied “You can take the money which is sufficient for your needs in an average way”. Now look again at that verdict of court, you have not heard the side of husband as to how much money he lost and what the purpose for which he was saving it was. We are so easy to criticize others based on scanty information.
Q 194 Women Rights, Treatment, How are women treated in Islam?
Chris: How do Muslims treat their women? MUQ: Muslims treat their woman with love and respect. They give rights and duties to them as prescribed for them by the common Creator of both men and women, God Almighty. Chris: When men and women die, all females are permitted to go to the funeral and pay there last respects. MUQ: No females are not allowed to visit grave yards of dead people. This is done not in order to lower their status, but because they are of weak heart and break down easily and may start worshipping graves and start lamenting there. Chris: This religion treats women like slaves and worship the males. MUQ: No Muslim women are not treated like slaves. They have their rights and duties, which are far superior to those granted by any other religion or any other society. No Muslim women do not worship males neither do Muslim men worship men. Both Males and Females Worship the One true God, who created both of them and every thing else in this universe.
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Chris: Why is the symbol of Islam a crescent moon? Because their prophet's parents were pagans and the head God was the moon God. MUQ: Crescent Moon is not the symbol of Islam at all. Muslims do not worship Crescent moon or full moon or any other stage of Moon. Muslims rather worship Creator of Sun and Moon, the Lord of Universe. The present condition of why we see crescent moon on flags of many Muslim countries might be copying the symbol of Cross as seen on many Christian countries. Crescent Moon has no religious status in Islam. Chris: Why can't dogs live in the households but cats can and crap in a box. It's not the dogs saliva that will make you unclean but what is in your heart that will. MUQ: Dogs are not allowed in homes as pets, because they are unclean and not suited for so close relationship. The reasons could be medical or spiritual we do not know. Chris: That goes for pork too. These are the teachings of Jesus. MUQ: Can you tell me, where in the NT, Jesus allowed eating of Pork? Why you only criticize Islam for classifying clean and unclean Animals. That distinction is from the time of Noah and Moses only made it more complicated. In Islam the list is much shorter and easier to follow that laws of Torah.
Q 195 Women s Right, Equality of Sexes, What is Islamic opposition?
Ans. I agree with you, in fact man and woman are actually
complementary to each other. Together they complete each other and make one basic unit called Family. Family is the basic building block of which civilizations are made. If there is fault or weakness in this building block, any civilization based on that will be weak or faulty. The equality of man and women is in the eyes of their Creator. Each one of them is responsible for their own actions before their Creator.
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The Western Concept of Equality of sexes, puts man and women as competitors, they compete against each other in Education, Job Market, Factories and else where. Women want to demonstrate that each and every job that man can do, they can also do and do it better. So according to this concept, man and woman are not complimentary to each other, when you have two equals, how you can run a family? How there could be two heads of one unit? That is why we see that family structure is crumbling in west. It will have a long term effect on their civilization. Despite what they want to deny, the woman is indeed became a sex object in West. She is ready to sell her beauty and body for a sum. You see her body every where in West. They accuse Muslims of taking woman as sex object, why cant they sell any thing unless they put a picture of woman on cover. Why is it so. One western woman who converted to Islam, put that beautifully. She said that men and women are equal and their equality is like a three star and four star General of Armed forces. Both Three Star and Four starred are Generals, respected , and have authority, but Four Star General has more responsibility than a Three Star General. In Islam, man is made a Four Star General and women is a three star General. Man is responsible to earn living and do outside jobs and woman is to take care of house and children. Woman follow man and Children follow woman. On the day of Judgment, Allah will question man about Woman and shall Question woman about Children. You could be off-topic, but not on irrelevant subject.
Q 196 Women’s Rights, Muslims Actions, Do we support what Muslims do?
Ans. Whatever gave you idea that I support every activity of Afghan
people? I only support Islamic laws and Islamic systems. Every thing which Muslims do is not Islam.
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You are very quick to attribute all action and practices of Muslims to Islam. Islam has given more rights to women than any other society, including Modern Materialistic, Free Sex and Pro Homosexual society. Giving rights to some one does not mean that you snatch rights of others.
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Chapter -7 (Israel and Palestine and related issues) Q 197 Israel Biblical, Present Israel, Are these same?
Ans. After your clarification it seems that we are on the same frequency. The present state of Israel and Biblical Israel are some times get confused. Many Christian Zionists in garb of supporting Biblical Israel, Start supporting the existing Atheist Zionist state of Israel that was illegally created in Palestine in 1948.
Q 198 Israel Creation, History, Does History starts after 1948?
Ans. The hard facts of History do not start and finish with 1948. No Tyrant, Dictator or Oppressor will willfully want to give away their powers. So I do not say that Zionists would willfully want to see their country being portioned and made smaller. So we do not consider their view point at all. I want to argue with those people who justify the wrongs done to those hapless Palestinians who were uprooted from their homes and lands which they lost when Israel was created. To solve any problem, first we should understand the real issues and see who is aggressor and who is sufferer. When that is established, we should look for practicable solution. The solution is that Israel should go back to pre 1967 boundaries and then it should be partitioned to form a separate Palestinian state. Then the military power of Israel should be cut down (as Western Powers do for all states adjoining Israel) so that it is not a threat to its neighbors and not a bully in the region. Then the boundaries of Israel and Palestine and all other neighboring countries should be fixed and finalized by UNO and no violations should be allowed. This is the goal and do not say that all would be achieved, but we should make progress is the right direction.
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The first move is to stop projecting Israel and Zionists as the suffering party and get all moral support, instead of that they should be classified as aggressors and trouble makers and pressure should be applied on them to really solve the problem in the indicated direction.
Q 199 Israel Creation, Justification, Is Israel like USA?
Ans. The logic given for Israel creation was that the land belonged to Jews many centuries ago and they have right to claim it back. To justify claims of any group based on history was a very novel concept and was not applied to any one else but Jews. You have given a very interesting example of American Population also being imported. If Red Indians want their land back, then would you expel all people from USA who have settled there for so many centuries? But in case of Jews that was accepted and people living in the land for many generations were uprooted. If instead of Jews, Hindus, or Buddhists, or any other People were populated in Palestine, we would have objected with equal force. But I do not know that there is any other group for which Western Powers would have shown that much interest.
Q 200 Israel Destruction, Can Israel be destroyed by one Man?
Ans. I think it was only 1 man which destroyed Israel in past...Nebuchadnezzar in 598 BC and Titus in 70 AD. Was Israel not a Holy Land then? When it has happened twice in past, why it cannot happen a third time? The best way is to look for the reason why Israel was destroyed in the past? It was because they did not follow commandments of God and went away from Him and they created mischief in the land. They were destroyed because of their in equities.
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So any future state of Israel must see that it does not go in the footsteps of their forefathers..... But seeing the present condition of Modern Day Atheist Israel and what they are doing to innocent Palestine men, women and children, I do not think that they are doing any better than their forefathers of 598 BC & 70 AD. Does God care if they built Multi Storey Complexes, Shopping Malls, Industries and Nuclear Weapons? Is that the standards by which God judges the people and nations?
Q 201 Israel Existence, Justification, Did Muslims persecuted Jews?
Ans. For your info I am an Indian working in Saudi Arabia. Neither India nor Saudi Arabia is an apartheid country for your info. Dimmi Law was not only for Jews and it was not a persecution. It was a sum they paid for their personal and religious security. It was the sum they paid for being excused from the military duty. Read Islamic laws on Dimmi and Jizya and then compare them with what laws Jews have in dealing with Non Jews. Israel only exists, because it is propped up by its powerful allies in Europe and USA. They were the ones who created Israel. Israel and Jews and Zionists would not have been able to create state of Israel. But as usual, the ungrateful Jews have forgotten the help, support and efforts of their beneficiaries and are boasting as if they by themselves created this state and are able to defend it. By my logic, the people living in any land have a right to live there. It does not matter by what names you call any country. In the case of Israel, the local people were turned out from their lands and bulk of population was imported from other land mainly Europe and that was wrong and did violate rights of those Arabs, Muslims and Palestinians who were living there. It does not make an iota of difference what is Palestinian Culture, what is Arab culture and what is Muslim culture. What is the culture of present day Israel? Is it Jewish culture? Or is it Atheistic culture?
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Q 202 Israel, Baghdad, Did Jews were 33 % in Baghdad?
Ans. I thought that claiming 6 Million Jews were killed in Germany Gas Chambers was the biggest lie of all the time, I did not know that there could be bigger lies than that! Your claim that one third of Population in Baghdad were Jews certainly takes first position amongst the biggest lies of all time!! Why did you not say that Iraq was ruled by Jews until Saddam came and drove them away!! No one can ask you for any proof. Coming from the mouth of Jews and Zionist, it must be 100 % truth. To ask you for proof that whether Jews held any land in Arab lands for past 1300 years would be too much. Islam means submission, Muslims to their God, Non Muslims to Muslims, it is as simple as that. If you submit your self to your Creator, the whole world serves you. Was it not mentioned in your scriptures too?
Q 203. Jews, Character, What is true Israel
Ans. Excuse me, but first of all, I have no problem with the Jewish people, but it is just that Israel is using/manipulating many countries for their own selfish benefit to commit genocidal campaigns against the Palestinian people and suppress them of their freedom. If many people didn't fall as slaves for the Zionists/Neocons/NWO, then we wouldn't have this problematic state called "Israel." Jews live peacefully in many countries in Europe as well as in the Middle East even. Iran has a very large Jewish community and so does Turkey. Infact, when Jews were getting their heads chopped off and sliced by Medieval Spain, who saved the Jews from persecution, The Ottoman Empire did. Jews are welcomed in the West and East. It is just the Zionists who make lies and myths about how Israel is the righteous homeland of Jewish people. Jewish is a religion and they have lived peacefully in many countries. Zionism does not represent Judaism, Zionism is pretty much a perverted concept where these
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people called "Zionists" try to enslave countries governments so they can steal, plunder and oppress the Palestinian people of their rights and freedom. Palestinians are democratic freedom loving people, they respect all religions, including Christians, Jews and Muslims. Why do you think Israel treats non-European origin Jews as crap and refer to nonEuropean Jews as "lower caste Jews" such as Turkish Jews, Kurdish Jews, Persian Jews, Bukharian Jews, Arab Jews, Indian Jews, Russian Jews, Georgian Jews, Azeri Jews, Afghan Jews, Cuban Jews, Venezuelan Jews, Argentine Jews and Brazilian Jews, and so on. Because Israel is based on Zionist Apartheid, not democracy, human rights and equality.
Q 204 Jews, Dimmi, Should Jews live as Dimmi?
Ans. If you think Dimmi law to be inhuman, then please tell me what are the Jewish teachings as to how to deal with Non Jews living into their lands? If you want scriptural proofs, I can quote you from the First Five Books of Bible and other places from Bible. If you want to see the real proofs, look at how Jews are treating Palestinians for past 60 years. Did Muslims treated Jews like that in Palestine for 1300 or so years in the past? Your assumptions cannot take the place of facts. Muslims, Jews and Christians lived peacefully in Palestine till British came there and portioned Palestine into two halves. I do not begrudge if Jews living in Palestine could get a separate land for themselves, but that should be as per their population at that time. And believe me, they could have got less that 10 percent of Palestine and not 50 percent. That was an unfair division and an act of injustice. If the creation of Israel was illegal, the Palestinians had every right to protest and correct the wrongs. If you think that at present Israel is very powerful and cannot be defeated at any cost, then wait, many bigger and more powerful nations in the past have tasted the dust.
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The present state of Israel is no exception. If you continue in your acts of inequities, oppression and injustice, the Law of God would overtake you. The whole 3500 years of Jewish history proves only this fact and nothing else. There is still time to repent and come to senses.
Q 205 Jews, History , What is History of Jews presence in Palestine
Ans. Thanks for being economical with the truth, while condensing Jews – Palestinian conflict to less than two minutes of reading. Now let us see the other side of story, so the readers could see both side of picture and decide for themselves what is the truth. 1. Abraham the Patriarch of Jews and Muslims lived in Iraq about 4000 Years ago. He and his son Isaac had a very small land in what we call Palestine. His other son Ishmael was settled in a remote location in Arabia, which later became Makkah. 2. Seventy years after death of Abraham, Jacob the son of Isaac and his entire family left the land of Palestine and settled in the land of Egypt. They lived in Egypt for about 215 years. 3. After 215 years, they left Egypt under the guidance of Moses and started wandering in the desert of Sinai. 4. The Palestine in those days was heavily populated by people who had no racial connection with Jews. Jews massacred these people, dispossessed them from their lands and took possession of that land. That killing and wars continued from the last days of Moses, then under Joshua….finally in the times of David, Jews got control of most of the lands of Palestine. 5. It was during the seventy or so years of rule under David and Solomon that Jews had full possession of Palestine. 6. Immediately after the death of Solomon, kingdom of Jews got divided into two, one was called Israel and another Judea. 7. Both these kingdoms were ruled mostly by kings, who did not follow the path of God. They created mischief in the land. The wrath of God came upon them and first the Kingdom of Israel was destroyed by
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Assyrians and finally the Kingdom of Judea was destroyed by Babylonian king Nebuchadnezzar around 600 BC. 8. Nebuchadnezzar destroyed the temple of Solomon and took most of Jews as captives. After 70 years of captivity Jews returned to Palestine around 530 BC and rebuilt their temple. 9. Inequities of Jews continued and they flaunted rules of God shortly after their return…that continued till the advent of Jesus Christ. Majority of Jews rejected Jesus Christ and they even tried to kill him. 10. That was the last straw in their book of inequity and the wrath of God deseeded on them in the form of Roman General Titus in 70 CE. Titus once again destroyed the Jewish temple at Jerusalem, killed a large number of Jews and banished them from Palestine to different parts of Europe. 11. The land of Palestine was free from the control of Jews finally, except for a small numbers of Jewish settlements here and there. That did not constitute any political or military power. 12. In 325 CE Roman Empire became Christian Empire, but Christians did not allow those Jews to return to Palestine. The Palestine remained free from Jewish dominance during Christian rule of 325 – 650 CE. 13 Around 650 CE Arabs took the possession of Palestine and Jerusalem from Christians and established their rule to entire land of Palestine, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq, Iran , Egypt and every other land where Abraham set his foot 4000 years ago. 14. Palestine under Muslim rule of 1200 years remained more or less peaceful. The only exception was Crusade wars, when during a 99 year period, Christians got control of Jerusalem. But in 1099 CE Muslim armies under Saladin took back the control of Jerusalem from Christians. 15. It can be seen that for past 2000 Years, Jews had no control of Palestine, they had no say in political or administration of land. Most of Jews were wandering in Europe being persecuted by Christians. They only could get refuge in Muslim states under Muslim rules. Best period of European Jews was when Muslims ruled Spain.
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16. During this 1200 years period, there were no wars and no fights between Jews and Muslims. The land of Palestine was peaceful and Muslims, Jews and Christians were living side by side peacefully. 17. At the end of WW-1, when Britain set its foot on the land of Palestine, it allowed large scale migration of European Jews to Palestine and that was the start of tension between Muslims and Jews. Because no one likes such large intake of foreign people on their land. 18. The peaceful land of Palestine became a land of fighting and bombing and destruction from the day, first European Jew set its foot on that land. The Jews were repeating their history which was set by their forefathers when they first came to Palestine 3500 years back. 19. Then in 1948, Britain divided the land of Palestine into two halves, one half was given to Arabs under the tile of Jordon and the other half was given to Jews under the title of Israel. That division was very unfair, because Jews living in Palestine since generations did not constitute half the population. 20. Arabs living in the land of Israel were driven out from their homes and these are the original Palestinian refugees, which started their struggle for freedom right from 1948. 21. The number of Palestinian refugees increased due to capture of Arab lands by Jewish armies in the wars of 1948 & 1956. 22. Finally in 1967 war, Jews got control of Jerusalem, West bank and Gaza and Golan Heights in the famous six days wars. But as per current international laws, all lands captured during war, should be returned back when the ceasefire is enforced. That rule is applicable to all people except Israel, which has held on to land captured by it in wars of 48, 56 and 67. 23. So many UN resolutions asking Israel to return the lands captured by it in 48, 56, and 67 wars are rejected by Israel. When the issue reaches Security Counsel, USA vetoes the resolution. US has so far vetoed 27 such Security Counsel resolutions. It is interesting to note that US has only used its veto Power 28 Times and out of that 27 times have been to save Israel. 24. The whole world is mute spectator of the daily killing, persecution and atrocities committed by Jews on Palestinians men, women, and children.
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25. For past few years, Jews are trying to put wool over the world’s eyes that Palestinian problem only started after 1967 war, and if they establish so called Palestinian state in West Bank and Gaza (minus Jerusalem), they would solve the problem permanently. 26. This approach is very wrong, because the Palestinian problem started in 1948, and all lands captured by Israel from that date must be vacated and that includes Jerusalem. 27. That is the moral side of the question, if they think that Might is Right, then Might is not a permanent property of any nation or race. When the scales turn, Jews would beg for smallest foot hold in the land of Palestine, but it would be denied. 28. Another Moral from this story is that so long as Jews are controlling Palestine, there would be no peace there. It did not happen 3500 years back and it has not happened from 1948 till 2009. 29. If peace has to be restored in the land, either the Jews have to be banished from the land, or they must not have political or Military power.
Q 207 Jews, Holocaust, How true it was?
Ans. While the exaggerated Jewish version of Holocaust might not be true, no one can deny that Jews were persecuted systematically by Nazis in one form or another. Any one who has read Mien Kemp (Second part) cannot be ignorant that what Hitler would have done to Jews had he gone absolute power there. Persecution of Jews by Hitler and Nazi was wrong. But the same Jews persecuting hapless Palestinians and using same Nazi tactics is also wrong. We should not be Pro or Anti Jews...We should not be Pre or Anti Semites... We all should be Pro Justice and Anti Oppression....We should be Pro Truth and Anti Lies. We should be Pro Humanity and Anti Racism...
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Injustice and oppression and extremism must be condemned by all irrespective of who, which country and which race does it. To view these acts selectively is in my view the root cause of all this violence and terrorism and extremism we see in the world before us. Peace to all, must mean ALL and not only to Jews, Whites or any other cast or creed. Who wants to join my wagon?
Q 208 Jews, Land, Is God Partial to any people?
Ans. D. Is Bible God’s Word and what it says about Exodus? 1. I do not believe that Bible from Cover to Cover is Word of God. But I do believe that Bible does contain Word of God. 2. In Bible Words of Gods got mingled with the Words of Prophets, Words of History Writers, Words of Folklore Writers and Words of Story tellers. There is no reliable mean to separate one from other using any Biblical criterion. 3. To certify which portion of Bible is God’s word, we need an outside criterion to certify this. But Jews and Christians do not want to use this criterion and continue to be content with all errors, mistakes, contradiction and folklores present in their book. It is their choice and we do not want to interfere . 4. Considering the lesson from Exodus, we believe that God indeed brought Jews from Egypt and gave them a place of rest and sojourn in the land of Canaan. But there was no Dogma attached there. 5. The land was given to Jews to do the work of God, so long as they did it, God helped and supported them. When they stopped doing the God’s Work, God also withdrew protection from them. As was seen during the destruction of Nebuchadnezzar and later during reign of Titus.
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6. God is not interested in any piece of land, if it stays with X or Y. He is the Lord and Creator of whole Universe. He gives land to people to do His work. 7. He is a merciful and Just God. He would not tolerate people doing nothing or doing injustice in His name. 8. This is lesson for Jews, Christians and Muslims too. God is not biased towards any group or any racial or linguistic sect. Whosoever does His will and act according to His laws, God is with such people. 9. Those who willfully reject or do not walk in His ways, are not liked by Him. They have no support or protection from Him. They may get some respite or temporary power in this world but on hereafter they will face His wrath. 10. So instead of fighting over a piece of land, It would be better, if it was a fight between those who want to live according to Will of God and those who do not want to live like that. 11. I doubt if either Jews or Arabs realize this important factor.
Q 209 Jews, Messianic, Why are they persecuted?
Ans. If Messianic Jews are persecuted in Israel, it is nothing new. That has been the traits of Jews since beginning who do not like to walk in the way of God. How much trouble they gave to Moses, their deliverer? Then how many prophets of God they persecuted and how many they killed? What they tried to do to Jesus is known to every one. So if the followers of Jesus are persecuted in the Zionist state of Israel, it is nothing new but old history repeating itself. These people should show steadfastness and prey to God to deliver them from such people. The day of deliverance is not very far off .
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Q 210 Jews, Propagation, What if Jews do not propagate?
Ans. Important points raised by you are: A. What if Jews do not want others to come to their faith? 1. Jews not inviting or liking others to join their faith is considered a grave act of omission in religious terminology. 2. Any group behaving in such a manner, is not fit to lead the world, because it becomes self insulator. 3. If God Chose Jews to be Standard Bearer of Monotheism and favoured them with one prophet after another, it was for them to lead the world and invite others into the true path of God. 4. Since Jews did not do that, so they were removed from the commission and were replaced by others. It was as Jesus warned Jews of his day “It would be taken from you and given to another nation, who will bear fruit…” B. Freedom of religion was only obtained under Jewish Rule 1. This is another myth falsely being propagated by Jews. 2. In their hey days (Joshua till Jesus), how they behaved with people of other faiths and religions is known to every one who reads scripture. 3. Then how much Jews persecuted early followers of Jesus is recorded in books of Christian history. 4. How much religious freedom is really available to Muslims and Christians living in Israel is also known to every one. 5. Religious freedom and religious tolerance is only preached and practices by Islam and no other religion. Once you pay tribute to the state, you have freedom and protection to your religion, your religious houses, your scriptures, your own justice system and every thing else.
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6. Go thru the books of Islamic Jurisprudence and see the guidelines mentioned there and then compare it with Jewish laws of Talmud and Bible in this regard. C. Jews were always present in Palestine and never returned form elsewhere 1. This is another lie being perpetuated by the media. 2. After 70 CE, when Titus destroyed the temple of Jerusalem and dispersed most of Jewish population to other parts of Roman Kingdom, Jews were never a dominant factor in the land of Palestine. 3. Muslims took possession of Palestine and Jerusalem from the hands of Christians and not Jews. Hardly any Jew lived in Jerusalem at that time. In fact there was a specific clause in the treaty at the time of surrendering Jerusalem that no Jews would be allowed to reside there (that was the hatred between Jews and Christians in ~ 650 CE). 4. But that does not mean that not a single Jew was present in Palestine. There were scattered Jews and Jewish colonies scattered here and there and they did not command any political or military force in the area. 5. Under Arab and Muslim rules, whosoever was living in Palestine was given protection, but the political and military authority was in Muslim’s hand, who were in majority. 6. That was the state which was disturbed by large scale migration of European Jews to Palestine in the after math of WW1, which resulted in creation of Zionist state of Israel and uprooting of Arabs and Muslims from the lands and homes in which they were living since generations. 7. And this is the wrong which is root cause of all problems in ME, and this root cause is to be solved at the earliest, if we want to see peace prevail there.
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Q 211 Jews, Quran, Does Quran say that God gave Palestine to Jews?
Ans. really appreciate your efforts and the way you have brought forward Quranic verses in support of your argument. This is a very good way to discuss these matters. I should say that you have not seen the Quranic verses in their proper perspective and in the context. When Quran says that God provided a place for Children of Israel to live in, it does not talk in Dogmatic Terms, i.e. the land was given as a perpetual home to Jews and no one else can live there etc. Let us see, the verses you have quoted, get the correct meanings of them and then point out some extra material for your consideration. 1. Children of Israel promised the Land of Palestine Ch 5: 20-21, Says that God told thru Moses for Bani Israel to enter into the land of Palestine, which was written for them….. But when the Jews did not listen to Moses and fought in the cause of God… in the same chapter Verse 29 Says “ God said : Therefore the land be out of their reach for forty years, in distraction will they wander thru the land, but sorrow you (O Moses) not over these rebellious people” Therefore the land was not to be perpetual in possession of Jews. If they walk in the laws of God and follow the prophets, they will be rewarded and when they rebel and cause mischief in the land, they would be punished. 2. History of Jews as per Quran: Chapter 17 of Quran named as Bani Israel or Israa gives the correct position of Jews and their presence in Palestine. But you quoted only one verse from that Chapter that did not prove any thing. Now let me present in brief the whole episode as mentioned in this Chapter of Quran A. Warnings of Two Major Mischief: Ch 17 Verse 4. And We gave (clear) warning to the Children of Israel in the book, that twice would they do mischief on the earth and be elated with mighty arrogance (and twice would they be punished).
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There fore it was mentioned clearly to Jews , that their actions would result in swift punishment from God. B. First Mischief: Ch 17 Verse 5 , When the first of the warnings came to pass, We sent against you, our servants given to terrible warfare, they entered the very inmost parts of your homes and it was a warning (completely fulfilled). This refers to the famous invasion of Nebuchadnezzar who in the year 596 BC destroyed the temple of Solomon, killed many Jews and took lots of them to captivity of Babylon. C. Return of Jews: Ch 17 Verse 6: Then We did grant you a return as against them, We gave you increase in resources and sons, and made you more numerous in manpower. This refers to the return of Jews from captivity and their re-settling and remaking of the Temple and getting more in umbers that earlier. That covers period from 536 BC upto the coming of Jesus D. Second Mischief: Ch 17 Verse 7: If you did well, you did for yourselves, If you did evil (you did it) against yourselves, so when the second of the warning came to pass, (We permitted your enemies) to disfigure your faces and to enter your temple, as they entered it before, and to visit with destruction all that fell into their powers. This refers to the second mischief which Jews did in Palestine. When they denied the message of Jesus and tried to kill him. As a punishment, God send Roman General Titus in70 CE who destroyed the Temple of Jerusalem and banished the Jews from Palestine for ever. Therefore according to Quran, there is no Dogma that Land of Palestine is perpetual inheritance of Jews and they have sole right on that land. E. Third Chance:
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Verse 8. It may be that your Lord may (Yet) show mercy to you, But if you revert (to your sins), We shall revert (to our punishment) and We have made Hell a prison for those who reject (all faith). This refers to the third chance given to Jews to come back to the Mercy of God, by accepting the Last and Final prophet. But true to their attitudes of past, Jews rejected the message of final prophet also. How then it cam be said that God will reward them, to come back and possess the land of Palestine and continue their mischief there? 3. Fate of Jews: Quran describes that in following verses Ch7 Verse 167, “Behold, your Lord did declare that He would send against them, to the Day of Judgment, those who would afflict them with grievous penalty. Your Lord is Quick in retribution, but He is also oft-forgiving, Most Merciful” And Chapter 3 Verse 112 “Shame is pitched over them (like a tent) wherever they are found, except when under a covenant (of protection) from God and from men; they draw on themselves wrath from God, and pitched over them (like a tent) is destitution. This is because they rejected signs of God and slew the prophet is defiance of right; this because they rebelled and transgressed beyond bounds” That is the position of Jews according to Quran, how could it be said that God is happy with them and brought them to land of Palestine as a reward for their good deeds? 4. Jews near the End of World: There are prophetic sayings that near the end of times, Jews and Christians would gain power over Muslims and would persecute muslims. But we do not know that End of time is near, because Christians did got possession of Holy Lands from Muslims in 1000 CE, but were driven back in 1099 CE. So we cannot say that presence of Jews in Palestine is really indication of end of time, or a test of Muslims. Muslims should continue their
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struggle against injustice, oppression and tyranny, till God decides if the End of World is near.
Q 212 Jews, Survival, Are Jews fighting for Survival?
Ans. 1. Dimmi Status: As I told you, in Islam every thing is clear and well defined. Dimmis have right and Dimmis have duties. You did not tell me, as to how Jews have to treat Non Jews living in their lands. If you go by historical records, we have examples of : A. How Roman treated people of conquered nations. B. How Jews dealt with Christians and Vive versa. C. How Protestants dealt with Catholics and Vice versa. Just compare that with Islamic Dimmi system and you will see the difference. 2. From the Time of Macabees till present time, Jews are fighting for survival: Yu are right, and why you say from the time of Macabees? I think from the Time of Moses, when he sat foot in Palestine, the Jews are always struggling for survival. Books of Bible are proof for that. Except for brief period of David and Solomon ‘s reign, neither the Jews nor the land has seen any peace. I do not think that there is any other piece of land that has seen so much violence and blood shed in past 3500 years as the land of Palestine. The main reason for that is the racism of Jews. That was always the stumbling block for them, they could never mix with other people and they did not propagate their religion to any one.
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That is why despite being one of the oldest religion on this earth, they are a miniscule minority in the world. They only live in the shadows of others and when they taste power, they treat other people very badly. It would be interesting to see, what Quran has to say on the fate of Jews: “Behold! Your Lord did declare that He would send against them, to the Day of Judgment, those who would afflict them with grievous chastisement. Your Lord is quick in retribution, but He is also Oftforgiving, Most Merciful” 7:167 From Nebuchadnezzar, to Titus, to Hitler…. They for a long chain. The biggest achievement of Jews is that they are surviving. If they would have heeded to their Lord and walked in His ways, may be they would have been the dominant religion in the world. May be… but the choice is still in their hand. They think that they would wield the power for ever, they think that western nations would always be there to back them up…. That is human way of thinking… Let us see what future has in store for them. 3. The problem between Jews & Palestinians is because of Arabs inflexible stand. The state of Israel was created by Western Powers as a fraud to Arabs and Muslims. They had a cause to resent. After that the one sided support which west gave to Israel and Zionists is for every one to see. The persons who are wronged have right to protest and even start freedom movement. So you cannot fault Palestinians for that. 4. Jews were expelled from Arab Lands For this , please refer to my replies to Crusader and Jabidini above.
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Q 213 Jews, USA, Do Jews run USA?
Ans. If Jews do not run America...then why has US used its Veto power 27 Times to block any moves against Israel...? Is there any other country for which US has used its veto even 10 %? If Jews so not run America then why there is Anti Semite law that only protects Jews...why there is no such law for any other nationality..? If Jews do not run America...then why every Presidential candidate growls before Jewish lobby and tie them into knots in front of them...and every one tries to out do each other? If Jews do not run America...then why US presidents have to swallow the insults and rebuffs, every time he says any thing against Israel? If Jews do not run America...then why no one can hold public office if he or she criticizes Jews even in the mildest of terms?...Remember the case of Grandson of Gandhi? How he was kicked out from the chairman ship? There are thousands and one such example to show who runs America... You need not have to be in Majority to run any country.... Jews control America by controlling its News, Print and TV Media...All Big News papers, Magazines, Films and TV News channels are controlled by Jews... Another way is Jews control Financial institutions in USA. So they control US by having control of its balls and minds. I do not think that majority of US people really love Jews, but they have no choice. I think US has suffered more than any other nation (Financially, Politically, Economically and Morally) just because of its support to Jews and Israel. It has been isolated on many occasions and had to boycott so many UN Conferences, seminars and meetings Just because Israel and Jews were criticized there.
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What type of love is this between US and Israel…it is not normal love….it is not natural love…. It is not the love of Democracy… It is not love…It is Blackmail To verify who is controlling US media check at http://www.scribd.com/doc/80o4976/
Q 214 Israel Justification, Parallel between Israel and America?
Ans. Before Europeans landed as swarms in South and North America, Red Indians were having the possession of whole continents. They were systematically exterminated until a very few numbers survive and they were forced to live in reservations. Bulk of their land was appropriated by the Whites. There is progress in every country with time and the same happened in the case of USA also, but that does not negate the original rights of Red Indians (if you decide rights and ownership, based on history). Jews, Christians and Muslims were all living in Palestine peacefully for past 1300 years. There was no conflict and no blood shed between them. This all changed when swarms of Jews landed in Palestine after the end of WW-1 (same as happened in North and South America) and from that date, the land has not seen any peace till this day. I do not say that all Jews should be banished from Palestine, what I say that those who came after WW-1 and dispossessed Palestinians living there should be asked to go. The Palestine should have been divided in 1948 in proportion to the population of Jews and Palestinians living before 1911 and not 50 -50 as was done. It was a great injustice done at that time and it has to be corrected.
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Q 215 Israel Justification, US Example, Does it fit?
Ans. If you go 500 or so years back, most of the world was only “Nature” and “Natural things”. I do not deny that European have developed those countries and lands. My only question was on the legality of taking over lands of those countries. If some part or country of the world is under developed or not developed, does it gives us right to go and occupy that land and turn out or kill all those people? I know that was norm at some time in the history…so we do not start justifying or criticizing history…what has happened has happened. But it pains me when people Justify creation of Israel that 2000 years ago their forefathers lived there…..so present day occupants of the land must be turned out and Jews living in all parts of world should go back to their home land. This idea of Jewish home land based on ancient history is not correct. As to your second question, there are many people of many nationalities in Saudi Arabia. With passage of time, they merge into the local population and after a few generations, it is difficult to separate them. People have been migrating and settling in different countries, some times voluntarily and some times to flee the persecution. They settled in new lands and made it their home and after a few generations became part of that nation. There is nothing wrong in that. But Jews returning back after 2000 years and uprooting Palestinians is a new chapter in world history, which has no parallel.
Q 216 Palestine, Arab Lands, Were Jews driven from Arab Lands?
Ans. I think what Jews are doing to Palestinians is any guide, then Arab states were justified in their treatment to the Jews in their land, but whether they were expelled need to be proven. I doubt that with World Media in their hands, this issue would not have caused any debate in Security Counsel.
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Q 217 Palestine Culture, Was there culture?
Ans. To quote Golda Meir on there is no Palestinian is like quoting Hitler that there was no Holocaust!! These people are the original Zionist Terrorists who created the problem to start with. These Zionists would want us to believe that prior to creation of Israel, Palestine was a barren land, no one was living there and there was no culture there. They forget to mention that for past 1400 years, Palestine was under Muslim rule, it had a distinct Arab culture, its language was Arabic . Jews, Christians and Muslims all were living there peacefully. It all changed when swaps of European Jews and Zionists landed there and uprooted the Palestinians from their homes. If there were no Palestinians and there was no culture then from where they got Millions of refugees? The biased western propaganda has taken in most of Western minds and they see and think thru the Zionists eyes and Zionists minds.
Q 218 Palestine, Dialog, Why do not solve the problem thru dialog?
Ans. Palestinians waited for many decades in the hope that World Powers would listen to their grievances and try to solve their problems. But no one gave any hoot to their plight and came forward except to provide lip service. Frustrated they had to start their own freedom movement. And when they started their movement, the world (under influence of Zionists and Jewish propaganda) used double standards to judge between them and Jews. Every action of Jews and Israel was seen as self defence and every action by Palestinians was seen as an act of terror. If you are honest and unbiased, you will accuse both of doing the acts of terrorism.
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In fact Israel and Jews are not serious in solving the problem thru dialog. They are not interested in any fair solution at all. They just want to silence the conscience of world that they want to solve this problem thru dialog, that is all. The world should apply pressure on Israel (same way as it does on every Muslim country) to offer real peace terms and not eye wash.
Q 219 Palestine, Enemies, Can Israel finish them once for all?
Ans. US, UN and Every one stayed out and gave Israel free hand to finish off Hizbollah in 2006. Despite 34 days of doing everything, The Mighty Israeli Army (which had “Single Handedly” defeated the combined might of Egypt, Syria and Jordan in only 6 days in 1967) could not even able to free to their captured soldiers!!! It means either the Israel army has become coward, or they do not get inside information from Western Nationals working in these countries any more. There was no piece of land in Palestine which was inhabited and was dissolute in 1300 years of Muslim rule. This is all a Zionist propaganda. You ask Israel to finish the job, once for all. Have you forgotten Jewish History of past 3500 years? They were never able to get exclusive control of Palestine except for 70 odd years in a 3500 years period. May be the present generation of Jews are mightier than their ancestors and forefathers. But what I can see is that war mongers like you, would not sit idle, unless the Israel is finished and Jews restored back to their wandering as they were doing for past 2000 years. Jews and Power and Ruler-ship of any country do not go well together. They part company very soon. May be the present generation of Jews and Zionists would write a new history of their nation this time.
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Q 220 Israel Existence, Are Oppression, Tyranny and Injustice needed for survival of nations?
Ans. It was news to me that Oppression, Tyranny and Injustice are three necessary criterions for survival of any country, nation and civilization. If you subscribe to this view…. Then I have nothing to say to you. What Israel and its police and soldiers are doing to Palestinians is very commendable thing and if Israel has to survive as a nation, it should keep on committing these acts of oppression, tyranny and injustice…. It will add to its life. Our religion teaches us that any nation, country or civilization based on Oppression, tyranny and injustice has but a Limited Life. God gives them time to correct their ways (for God is slow to anger), but when the weight of their inequities tilts the scale, God punishes those people and God's punishment is Swift and Painful. The events of Nebuchadnezzar and Titus are seen in the same light by even Jewish Scholars, religious and secular alike.
Q 221 Israel Existence, Is Israel indestructible?
Ans. What Islamic states are doing is not relevant to me. I only defend Islamic laws and Islamic principles. If some one is not following Islamic laws then it is his fault and not Islam's. We are not forcing Islam down the throats of any one. We are just delivering our message and more and more people are getting attracted to Islam and coming into the fold of Islam. That is the beauty of truth, that it has its own power. That is why Islam is the fastest growing religion in the World in general and in US and Europe in particular. I am aware how much anger and anxiety it is causing to people of your bent of mind. But this is Allah's plan and He is the Best of All Planners.!! Like wise you can have the luxury of believing that the present Zionist State of Israel is indestructible, But I have no doubt that any nation, state or civilization built on Oppression, Tyranny and Injustice has a
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very limited life span. The present state of Israel satisfies on all three counts, so its demise is as certain as the rise of next day sun. You better invest your money in Islamic Banks instead of wasting in on Power Ball Lottery!!
Q 222 Israel Extremism, Extremist Jewish point of view
Ans. If we go as per your logic, then it seems 1.Jews were given much less land in the Palestine than their land holdings in Palestine and Arab lands. 2. That Jews are trying to live like a lamb in the land of whatever small piece of land they got in 1948, but it is these pesky Palestinians and Arabs which are hell bent in turning them out from that meager part of land also. 3. The fault is 100 % with the Palestinians and Arabs and Jews are white as snow, they were forced to take arm only in the self defense and they are fighting this war in which they are a certain underdog in an exemplary manner. 4. Most of population of Jews in Israel is from those Jews who were living in Palestine and Arab lands since generations. A very small portion of Jews could have come to settle there from Europe and America. If you believe in all that, why then you believe that Jews were ever removed from Palestine at all? Jews were living and controlling whole Palestine till British divided it into two halves and gave one half to these pesky Arabs in 1948, and since that time Jews are only trying to get back the lands which were taken away from them. That makes a good simple Zionist argument. Why should we bother about those old and ancient history books written by Non Jewish or even Jewish authors. Truth is what we say is true. That is why I called your ideas as bigotry and half truths.
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Q 223 Israel , Gold Meir, Was she same as Hitler?
Ans. Why you say Hitler and Meir have nothing in Common. Both were terrorists at one time. Meir was in the First batch of Terrorists that landed on Palestine. Just because She or Begin rose to become Prime Minister does not change the reality. The problem in Palestine is always because of Jews and Zionists, because before they came to Palestine, there was no problem there. It was a land of Peace and tranquility under Muslim rule. Who were Ottomans? They were Muslims and they did not interfere or changed the culture or language of demography of Palestine. They did not drove out Arabs or Palestinians from their houses and took possession of their lands and houses. It seems your knowledge is very poor and you are highly influenced by the Zionist and Jewish propaganda or you could be one or both of them too. I am not sure.
Q 224 Israel, Palestine, Did Jews bought the land?
Ans. To say that Jews started buying land from Arabs beginning with 1700 is a sheer madness. If some Jews living in Palestine (since generations) bought a house or land or a field from any Arab also living there, it means nothing. Jews started to come to Palestine after end of WW-1, when Britain got a toe hold there was the starting of land grabbing and pushing Palestinians from there which was the real cause of trouble. To say that Israel has given more land to Arabs is also a white lie. The whole state of Israel is built on stolen land, how could a thief give some thing which does not belong to him? PLO wants that Arabs which were turned out from their lands in 1848 and afterwards should get their lands and their homes back and nothing more and nothing less.
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Q 225 Israel, Palestine, Jihad, Why Jihad?
Ans. Islamic Jihad is a fight against oppression, Tyranny and injustice. So long as these exist in Palestine or else where, Jihad will continue. Only way to stop Jihad is to remove Oppression, Tyranny and Injustice from Palestine. For past 60 years , Israel has become the symbol of Oppression, Tyranny and Injustice in Palestine. Why should any one be surprised if there is Jihad in that land?
Q 226 Israel, Palestine, Justice, Do Muslims hate Jews?
Ans. To love or hate someone and to do injustice to them are two different things. On religious level, we do not love those who reject Allah, His Final Prophet and His Final revelation. And this is natural also, how can you feel the same love and emotions for one who accepts the message and those who reject it? It is not possible unless you be a hypocrite or do not give a damn about religion. But to do injustice and dent rights and opportunities to those who do not accept your faith is another thing. Islam prohibits us to do injustice and block opportunities to Non Muslims just because of their faith. Allah says in Holy Quran "O you who believe! stand out firmly for Allah, as witnesses to fair dealing, and let not the hatred of others to you make you swerve to wrong and depart from justice. Be Just; that is next to piety: and fear Allah. For Allah is well acquainted with all what you do" (5:8) It was this teaching from Quran that encouraged Muslims to provide shelter and protection in all those dark centuries when they fled from persecuting Christians to Muslim countries. That is despite the hatred and jealousy and ill will which Jews held and still hold against Islam, Muslims and our prophet. That is why I said, I do not support atrocities from any directions. The Jews living in Palestine since generations have right to remain there and so has the Palestinians who were living there since generations.
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If those Jews and Palestinians wanted separate homelands for each, the land should have been divided in proportion to their population (as happened between India and Pakistan in 1947, which you are so anxious to quote every time). Jews living elsewhere in the world had no natural right to come back and claim back the land which their forefathers left 2000 years back. That would be against natural justice. Therefore I am not an extremists and I am not a rabid Jew hater. My hate (other from general lack of love for all Non Muslims) is only for those Jews who have wronged our brothers in Palestine and turned them out from their homeland. That is the reason I support the freedom movement of Palestine and that is why I demand justice and fair treatment to them and to all. As regards present situation of Israel's invincibility, I do not take that at all. If our cause is Just and we show perseverance , we will be successful. There are many such examples even in our contemporary world. Nelson Mandela deemed # 1 Terrorist by South African Apartheid regime, rose to become President of that country. (On the down side we have other type of examples also, A terrorist like Begin got Nobel Peace Prize!!). So there is not much preaching or arguing against each other. Let each of us strive in their own directions, Jews for Total and Full Control of their Promised Land for Exclusive Possession and Palestinians for their homes and lands which were taken away from them by force or deceit and let history decide who was successful in the long run. That does not mean that Islam wants war as solution to every issue. Islam is all for peaceful solutions, but those solutions should be long term and based on true intention and not forced upon its followers. Any peace which is forced is not peace at all and it is never permanent. A permanent peace comes when both parties realize that they have to co-exist and live as neighbors. At present Jews do not think that Palestinians are any match to them, so they want to dictate the peace terms and any thing which is dictated is not permanent.
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As for you quoting rhetoric statements from Arab league secretaries and others, there can always be found matching statements from Jewish sides also. So instead of quoting such (non binding) statements from parties, let us talk about the central issues.
Q 227 Israel, Palestine, Justice, What should be limits?
Ans. Thank you brother for your post. We should only speak the truth and that is our only weapon. stand by truth and justice, there is no force that can defeat us. If we
We should judge others also by the same standard of truth and justice with which we stand. It does not give us right to kill innocent Jews and Christians just for the sake of taking revenge on their wrong doings. Islam is against such type of reactions. Coming to Obama, we should judge each man only by his actions. Unless we see something bad from him, we should hope for the best, but we should be cautious. Obama alone cannot make any big change in USA, that politics is too complicated. In USA , the Think Tanks make long term policies, the current administration only follows it. So all in all, Obama might not be as bad as BWB and Dick Cheney, Allah Knows Best. Thank you for your post.
Q 228 Israel, Palestine, Killing Innocents, Is it only one sided?
Ans. You were correct that any one killing any innocent man, women or child is a terrorist. But the only example you gave was from Palestinian side. You forgot to give any example from the Jewish side. Let me tell you, any Pilot who drops bombs on Civilian area (knowing than majority of people who live there are innocent citizens) is a Terrorist.
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Any one who fires a missile into area populated by civilians is a terrorist. Any police man or army man who fires bullets and rockets into peaceful citizens protesting peacefully is a terrorist. Once you get your definition of Terrorist right, then you should act against each and every terrorist. Taking actions against only one party would not produce any result. Do not link Islam with removal of Jews from Palestine; this was done 300 years before the birth of our prophet. This is a matter between Jews and Christians. Our problem only started after the end of WW-1 when European Jews started to descend in Palestine like a swarm. That was a wrong decision and has to be corrected in the first place. Your idea of peace and our idea of peace are different. In you idea, if a bully occupies your home and turns you out, you make peace with him, by allowing him to continue to stay in your home. In our idea the peace will only be restored when the bully is turned out and the owner gats possession of his home. You continue to lay blame only on Palestine and making one sided claims, it is high time you look at other side of picture also. This approach will not lead you anywhere.
Q 229 Israel, Nuclear Bomb, Is Israel’s Nuclear Bomb the solution?
Ans. If you think that Israel’s Nuclear Bombs would bring peace to that land , then you are wrong. You can not solve any problem only by force. Meanwhile idiotic statements like yours force all other nations to try and get Nuclear Arms...it would be same MAD rush as arms race between US and USSR during Cold War days. It would only result in Total Mutual Destruction and nothing else. There are no winners in a Nuclear Warfare, only losers. If you mean by your logic that if Jews cannot have Palestine for themselves, then no one can, they would make Palestine unfit for human living.
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That is the deranged mentality of Zealot Zionists and their Zealot supporters. How many million lives are worth the land of Palestine?
Q 230 Israel, Palestine, Ottoman Empire , Who ruled Palestine?
Ans. You have beautifully expressed they myth about Ottoman Empire. These people do not know History of Palestine at all. For past 1400 years it has been under Muslim rules: First Under the Rightly Guided Khaliphas Then Under Ummayad Dynasty Then Under Abbasides Then Under Egyptians Then Under Saljukes And Finally under Ottoman Turks All of these were devout Muslims and gave same protection and help to Jews suffering from persecution of Jews. Jews were never threatened in Muslim society the way they were done in Christian countries...but the same ungrateful Jews are treating Palestinians Muslims lower than dirt under their feet. And you talk of ungrateful ness!!
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Q 231 Israel, Palestine, Palestine is for Palestinians?
Ans. In fact all of Palestine for Palestinians is not a wrong thing. In the definition of Palestinian it includes all Muslims. Arabs , Christians, and even Jews that lived in the land of Palestine since generations. Some how the indigenous Jews living in Palestine since generations, disassociated themselves from Palestinians and got themselves influenced by the Jews of Europe who descended in the land of Palestine after the end of WW-1. It is a lie that Quran asks us to lie in the name of religion. Quran always exhorts us to be on the side of truth, justice and equality. It asks us to always deal justly between people, even if they be our enemies. Quranic teachings are most unbiased and broad minded than any other scripture on the face of the earth.
Q 232 Israel. Palestine, What are the two positions?
Ans. Let me point it our clearly the two respective positions: Zionists Position: To grab as much as land of Palestine as much as possible. Use whatever means , bribe, kill, misinform, use whatever means necessary. Stick to grabbed land by using every means legal or illegal. Consider Jews only as human beings and all other nations and people as dust under your shoes, deal with them in whatever manner you think fit. Palestinian Position: To get back the land stolen form them, using peaceful means if possible. If peaceful means are not possible then use force to the extent that enemy agrees to a just and mutually acceptable peace terms. It has been clarified that Islamic Jihad stands for struggle against Oppression, Tyranny and Injustice. Those who oppose Islamic Jihad means that they are in favor of Oppression, Tyranny and Injustice.
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Now choose your position carefully once again, are you with Zionists or Palestinians or for or against Islamic Jihad.
Q 233 Israel, Palestine, Refugee Issue, Back to 1948?
Ans. Thank you for detailed info on refugee issue. I am thankful to you. But you said it right that Israel did not think that this refugee issue would become a major issue within a few decades. They felt happy to get rid of such a large number of Muslims and Arabs from their lands so quickly and so easily. But as it happens, their analysis was proven wrong and the issue they considered minor at that time became a big issue. They expected that refugees would settle in so many Arab countries and they would achieve two targets with one shot. Things did not happen the way the wanted, so we come back to the original point. The refugees have to return to their lands. We go back to 1948 situation as I told you in so many posts.
Q 234 Israel, Palestine, Why Muslim states did not settle Palestinians Refugees:?
Ans. That is a very absurd logic, you should try to solve the problem, instead of finding wrong solutions. The issue at stake is that Jews did not constitute 50 % of Population in Palestine before WW-1. If they wanted separate state for themselves, then they were entitled land as per their population. Worldwide population of Jews was not an issue and should not be an issue. (Contd.) D. There is only one Jewish state while there as so many Muslim states:
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It is not the Muslim’s fault that Jews did not spread their religion to other people. They started almost 2000 before Islam and still are a minuscule percentage of World’s population. For them racism and blood purity is more important than the worship of one True God and invite others also toward that. May be it was because of that reason that God, took the leadership from their hands and gave it to Arabs and Muslims to take the banner of Monotheism and proclaim it to all four corners of the world. E. Israel has defeated so many Muslim states single handedly: How single handedly was that is known to people who have real knowledge. It was ploy by western nations to arm Israel with offensive weapons so that in short wars they would have advantage. After a few days of war UN will enforce ceasefire and Israel would stick to the land it captured. That tactics worked till 1967, after that date, Israel has not won any war. Now the Arabs have become smart, any war with Israel will be open ended, no ceasefire till the issue is settled or one party is totally annihilated. That is why we see that after 1967, Israel did not win any war in ME. They had to withdraw from Lebanon, they could not finish PLO, Hizbollah or Hamas despite the free hand given to them by UN and their western supporters. However , war and violence is not the solution for any problem. If Jews want to live in peace, they have to make peace with Palestinians, and the solution should be to partition 1948 Israel, to give land to those refugees. The delay is solving the basic problem. Will not end the problem but will only escalate it. You may laugh at my proposal, but believe me, a time will come when Jews would give any thing to just get a toe hold in the land of Palestine, but it would be Palestinians to decide their fate!!
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Q 235 Israel, Palestine, Solution, Is West Bank and Gaza the full solution?
Ans. You are right, we are not carrying out cross examination and no body is on trial here. We are discussing and only exchanging our views. If you are offended by my tone, I do apologize for that. You find the bias in Our Media, because you have never tried to find the other side of the story. The Palestinian problem is older than 1967, it started right after 1948, so the solution should take into account pre 1948 situation. I know all the arm twisting going on for Palestinians to accept West Bank and Gaza strip (the land of Jordan which Israel occupied in 1967 War) as the ultimate solution of their claim on Israeli lands. This would not be an equitable and just solution, how can a state exist, whose two sides are separated by Israel? The two parts would always be at mercy of Israel and they could not function as a sovereign independent state. The freedom struggle of Palestinian can be named as senseless or whatever name you want to give it. In Middle east Jews, Christians and Arabs had been living for past 1400 years, what was the thing that changed all that scenario? I think you are intelligent enough to know the root cause of all problem.
Q 236 Israel, Palestine, Solution, What it should be ?
Ans. I think your post is based on ignorance and what is difference between Israel and other countries which you have mentioned. If you look thru history, names of countries keep on changing with time. There were countries like Prussia, Assyria, Babylon and so many, no one even remembers them. These countries are today known by altogether different names. The boundaries of countries also keep changing.
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But the thing is that indigenous population does not change, irrespective of which country they belong to. For example residents of Makkah have remained same, irrespective of whether they were ruled by Damascus, Egypt or Turkey, or the country was named as Hijaz, Arabia or Saudi Arabia. So when the Ottoman Empire was defeated in WW-1, so many states were carved out of it by victorious countries, but in none of these cases, the residents were imported from any other religion or country. Only Israel was an exception, where the indigenous population were uprooted and Jews were imported from all over the world. The Palestinians who were uprooted are demanding for justice and no one is prepared to listen to them and solve their problems. This problem is in limbo from 1948, the day Israel was created. Palestinians are demanding for their homeland ever since 1948, It is only this delay in solving their problem which has given rise to PLO and HAMAS etc. The current mood in world is to forget everything that happened between 1948 and 1967 and try to appease Palestinians by giving them a part of land which was captured by Israel in 1967. This is not a fair solution at all. You say who in Israel would agree to an Islamic state replacing Israel, perhaps you forget that there INDEED was an ISLAMIC STATE in the area which you call Israel from 650 CE to 1948 CE, i.e. for 1300 Years!!! Going to pre 1967 Situation would not solve the problem that was existing between Israel and Palestine from 1948 till 1966? Israel of 1948 has to be divided equitably between Jews and Palestinians, who were living there since generations!! You cannot solve any problem by ignoring the root cause of the problem. You can only prolong the problem, put it on slow burner and look other way. But sooner or later you have to solve the original problem.
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Q 237 Israel, Palestine, Ukraine, Can Russia have claim over Ukraine?
Ans. If you accept Russian logic as true....then I will not argue with you about Jews claims on Palestinians.. Then remember Red Indians would like all white people to be kicked out of North Americas and South America...Australia. Arabs would want Spain back...and so much arguments would erupt in the world. Therefore claims of Jews on Palestine is stroking a fire which is dead already. For me I would not side with Russia if majority of Ukrainians are against it. If there are ethnic Russians living there since generations and are unhappy to live jointly, they can have their land in proportion to their population. That is a just and equitable solution. Not the Jewish approach to kick out Palestinians and take their lands / homes for Jews living in Europe and elsewhere for centuries.
Q 238 Israel, Palestine , Violence , Who is to be blamed?
Ans. First of all I do not justify the innocent blood shed of Jews and Israelis either. I condemn every one who sheds innocent blood. But you only want to look only one side of the story. In your view every Jews and Israeli soldier is a model of fair play and honesty and the whole fault is on the other side. You will protect and defend your police, soldiers, and citizens on each an very act of brutality against Palestinians. If Israelis and Jews are persecuted in South, it does not give you right to persecute innocent Palestinians in North. This Tit for Tat approach will never solve any problem but would always keep it aflame and burning. The Palestinians as the originally wrong people have to have more lee way. Unless their demands be met, they are wronged party and wronged party has certain more legal and moral rights.
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Return to 1948 boundaries looks like a four letter word to you and you consider it as an insult. I only said that a time will come when Jews will beg for even that. There is no harm in day dreaming, so why should you complain. The history have many interesting things to tell us. The mighty Kingdom of David and Solomon evaporated in how many years? The mighty temple of Herod was razed to ground after how many years. If you think that those stories are only for history books and they would never ever repeat, then it could be your wish. For me I feel that any society, nation or civilization based on injustice, oppression and tyranny has but a short life. The present Zionist state of Israel is not short in any of the above three criterion. So it is only a matter of time before the weight of their inequities overwhelm all their goods and the same history be repeated once again.
Q 239 Israel , Wipe out Israel, What does it mean?
Ans. The statement of Ahamdinezad has to be taken in their right perspective. You agree or not, the present state of Israel has become a source of Terrorism, injustice and oppression in the Middle East. Most of the problems in ME and most areas of world are in one way or other have their roots in the present day state of Israel. If some one speaks against the state of Israel, it does not mean that they want to annihilate all Jews from the face of earth. Jews were always living amongst Muslims and they would continue to live so. How may innocent girls and boys have been shot dead by Israeli Police and Military to demand freedom, you cannot count. So do not harp about what is happening in Iran and concentrate on the main problem. Yes I know that in the present state of affairs, you think that going back to 1948 boundaries is a joke. But as I said a time will come when Jews would demand that or even less than that. Do not worry, times do change and ups and downs come in every nation and its life. We should not compromise on matters of principles.
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Q 240 Israel, Palestinians, Refugees, Why cant muslim nations settle them?
Ans. I know what you are trying to say. You want that robber should be made rightful owner of the house and the real owners should go and find some where else to live. That is the essence of your theme. Instead of forcing the robber to hand over the possession of land to its owners, you side with the robber and say it is very unlikely that he will relieve his possession, so the owners should go elsewhere. The freedom struggle against wrongs done by Zionists and Word Powers shall continue, till the goals are achieved or any one party is fully annihilated. This is what I learned from the history of Truth against Falsehood. For me, I am an Indian working is Saudi Arabia, I do not support one country or another, one faction or another. My demand is the justice to Palestinians. They could be represented by Fatah or Hamas or any one else. I hope they unite and then Israel would have no chance…
Q 241 Israel, Peace Terms, How should peace prevail?
Ans. Unless you ask thief to return the stolen goods…. Then only there can be talk of any peace with the person whose goods were stolen. You are giving advice to the victims to make peace with the aggressor and tyrant and become too weak to even censure the other party… Yes we should both look in the mirror…. I will see Muslims divided into themselves and fighting on petty issues amongst themselves instead of joining against their common enemy…. And you will see your self United in the Defence of Zionist and Terrorist state of Israel condoning its every atrocity.
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Q 242 Israel Nation, Is Israel an efficient nation?
Ans. You are entitled to have your personal views about Israel and Zionists. To me they seem to be the most inefficient nation on this earth. Despite how many Trillions of Dollars of free aid get from US, Europe and all other countries and the results they have to show for that speaks about their efficiency and their way of governing. How and what would have happened if that would have happened and that would have happened is anyone's idea of speculation. No one knows the future and how it would have happened. If Jews would have accepted Jesus, may be they would have been ruling the world (effectively and not thru deceit or intrigue), so these are hypothetical questions. Unless a just peace is struck between Jews and Palestinians, none of the party shall live in peace. And peace is essential for both parties. May be in 1948 Israel was not sure of could survive or not, so its stand was more shaky. Now they feel that they are invincible and could dictate their terms. In the lives of nations, 50 or 100 years pass off as easily as one year in our every day life. So let us not speculate what will happen in future, but we have past history of Jews and Palestine before us, why should history not repeat itself this time?
Q 243. Israel Power, Is Israel invincible?
Ans. Countries like Israel can win short victory in blitz type attacks and short wars, because of the superior arms and ammunitions (and inside intelligence supplied by their western allies about their opponents). That has been the pattern of all Arab - Israel wars since 1948, a brief war, territorial gains by Israel and imposition of ceasefire by UNO and force their opponents to accept it. By that tactics, they are projected as Super Power and invincible in ME.
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But after 1967, Israel has not won a single war in ME, let me remind you. They did not win it in 1973. They did not won it in Lebanon from 1982 till 2002. They did not win against Hizbollah in 2006 despite 34 days of free run by UN and US. They did not win in 2009 in Gaza against Hamas...even after 22 days They did not bent their enemies to ask for ceasefire... Why? Because now the Arabs have caught on the Israeli tactics!!! Any war with Israel will be open ended...no ceasefire until one party is fully finished or subdued.... Let us see if any future Israeli victory will be of Biblical proportion or Babylonian Exile!!!
Q 244 Israel Survival, Is Israel strong enough to survive?
Ans. Many more powerful nations than Israel have vanished thru the pages of history. What destroys a nation is its oppression and injustice. Now Israel is a prime example of both. weight of its own inequities. It would crumble under the
That is a lesson they should learn from the fall of Hitler, USSR and other nations that lived on the basis of in justice. The lessons of history may be slow, but they are sure and very painful. Let no one be in false hope of the invincibility of Israel. As to comment that "Israel is now powerful enough to stand on its own" is not correct. US and its allies always take care that Military Superiority of Israel is always maintained.
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They did not hesitate to fight a proxy war for Israel to remove threat of Iraq. They may do the same against Iran....that shows how powerful Israel really is in ME. But there are blind lovers of Israel and all its actions and atrocities against Palestinians.
Q 245 Israel, Terrorism , What are acts of terrorism?
Ans. Firing a Missile or dropping a Bomb in Civilian area is as much intentional act of terrorism as one blowing oneself in a crowded area. Firing live bullets onto a peaceful group of people demonstrating against injustice is also an act of terrorism. So you should condemn both of these with equal vehemence. But if you only condone one side of acts and point out only to other side, then it will not achieve any thing. Living as Dimmi amongst Muslim for so many centuries gave your people protection of lives and religion, whereas how Christians treated you in their countries when they did not treated you as Dimmi? How are you treating Arabs and Palestinians living in your land without calling them Dimmi? It is not the name but the attitude and treatment you give to people of other faith and other religion. Islam and Muslims have best record compared to all other religious or ethnical groups in this regard. The real peace only comes when you treat people justly and not with just good sounding names. As in our country every one is Equal, and we do not distinguish between persons on the basis of race or religion. These are mere words that do not carry any conviction.
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Q 246. Israel, True Israel, What is True Israel?
Ans. Where is True Israel? Do you mean the existing Zionists state of Israel is True Israel? Just by naming any country by any name shall not suffice. To claim true Israel, they have to act like True Israel? They have to act according to Laws of Torah. The current country is ruled by Atheists and has no claim to be called True Israel. A True Israel would be where Jesus is recognized as a prophet of God and not ridiculed. In True Israel Jesus and his mother would not be called names. How dumb Christians are to support the enemies of Christ!!
Q 247. Israel, UNO Justification, Did UNO had right to partition Palestine in 1948?
Ans. If UN partitioned USA into two halves ..one for whites and one for Red Indians...would you accept it? UN has no authority to create or partition any country... It is the people of those country who decide what is to be done. UN only approves those decisions.... UN has no Creation Power for any nation. Israel was never recognized by Palestinians and other Arabs living in that land. They had full right to protest against this wrong UN decision...to import majority of a nation's population from all around the world...and kick out the original inhabitants of the land.. how were living there for 1400 years... How this cheating and obnoxious deed was done in modern world is a point of shame for all people who want justice and peace to prevail in the world.
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Palestine was a peaceful nation for most of Muslim rule...the land has not seen a day of peace since the return of Zionists 60 years ago. They are repeating their history of old days. .. when they ruled that land and it was full with wars, blood shed and atrocities against non Jews.
Q 248. Israel, West, Double Standard, Why west uses Double Standard?
Ans. Just because there has been so much injustice in the world and so many people are suffering, gives justification that Palestinians should also suffer and should not demand their rights. Is it not amazing the amount of support West Gives to Israel and ignores other people like Tibet etc.. The way western nations cow before Israel and Jewish lobby and beg from it to implement UN resolutions is very interesting. Iran and Iraq and Syria and Libya, Sudan etc are much bigger nations that Israel, but Western powers issue threats to them every day and are ready to face any consequences to bring them round to their view points. They put Economic sanctions, Political Pressure, Break Diplomatic ties, Threaten Military Action and even Nuclear options etc to bring them “On Line”. Has any such option been applied on Israel when it refuses point black to implement UN resolutions? Or Clearly violates Human Rights there. US is even ready to face Big country like China & Russia on the issue of Human Rights, but the resolution and courage seems to fail them when they come before Israel. But the same superpowers feel themselves at loss to convince or force Israel to accept Just terms. They are more worried that Israel would not cooperate and refuse any thing which is against her interest. Has any one seen a bully that will give its powers willingly? When West goes to UNO and gets sanctions approved on Iraq, Iran, Syria, Libya and all other countries of the world, unless they change their stand, why cant they do the same to Israel?
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Why every resolution in UNO condemning Israel for its human rights and other violations is Vetoed by USA? Why they use double standards in dealing with Israel and Arab nations? Why disappearance of Tibet, did not cause any thing to them, but they shudder even at the thought that Israel could one day disappear from the World Map? Why is there so much fascination for them in Israel? This can not be explained unless they are also in cohort with Israel and Zionist lobby. What is the real truth? Can you explain?
Q 249 Israel, West Support, Why west uses double standards?
Ans. I am happy to see your last post. It seems that we ate in agreement on most of the points. But things are not as simple as that, it is not only Jewish Contribution to US and other political systems that make them sympathetic to Israel. In fact It is the financial muscle and media power which Zionists enjoy in most western countries and specially USA. US political system is taken hostage by this Zionists media and they shape the public opinion. The public opinion is shaped to be always pro-Israel and Anti Arab and Anti Muslim. Democracy or Non Democracy is not such a point at all. If there come Military dictatorship in Israel, there still will be same type of support in US. The media would mold the public opinion that this was absolutely essential for survival of Israel and so on… You did not answer my point of double standards in Western Government….one on hand they are ready to take on 1500 Muslims and more that 50 Muslim countries head on…..on the other hand they behave just like cows before Israel and Jews….They only lodge weak sounded protests which are summarily rejected or even ridiculed by Israeli Government. You so easily accepted the claims of Chinese that Tibet is always being part of China without any further investigation…..but the fact that
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Palestine was under Muslim control for past 1300 years does not appeal you. The final solution might be based on dialog, but I doubt if Israel is seriously interested in real dialog. They want dialog to silence the world conscience that they are serious to solve this problem. On ground level they do not want to do any thing, which would cause them to partition their country to make a Palestinian state there.
Q 250 Jews, Antiquity, Are Jews oldest?
Ans. Jews only started from the Twelve Tribes of Jacob, the son of Isaac, the son ob Abraham. People above Jacob, were not Jews... Adam is the common ancestor of all humans on the earth. From him originated all nation and races. Jews are only a miniscule percentage of world population and have always remained so. God showed extreme mercy on them and chose them to receive and propagate the received message....their record is not exemplary in this regard.
Q 251 . Jews , Bias, Limits, How we should Treat Jews?
Ans. Jews might not be as bad as many people on this thread would want us to believe.... On the other hand they are not that good as their blind defenders would like us to believe either... They are human like any other human race.. There are both good and bad amongst them... But they are racist in their attitude is as simple as anything else....but just they are racist is not such a crime that calls for their banishment. They are scheming and they try to exploit other nations and their resources for their own good has been proven thru the history. What is required that we should keep them under observations and do
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not help them in any thing that is against justice and peace. The free hand that they have been given in Western Media and western nations is alarming as it has resulted in spread of violence and terrorism in most part of the world. Jews and Zionists are in one way or other related with the spread of Terrorism and hate in the world and they should be stopped before it engulfs all nations and whole world.
Q 252 Jews, Chosen People, Are Jews Chosen forever?
Ans. Chosen also has two states, Chosen as Obedient Servants of God and Chosen as Rebellious Servants. Jews were once Obedient Servants of God and were favoured as such. But ever since rejection of Jesus, they have been put in the category of Rebellious Servants. All their haughtiness and exclusiveness points to this effect. They get slight respite and then grievous Chastisement, that is how God deals with those who are rebellious.
Q 253 Jews, Christian, Cat’s Paw, How are Jews using Christians
Ans. Jews may or may not like Idol Worshipping Christians, but sure they are using them as Cat's paw to further their own interests. Most of Zionists are Zealot Christians and they are using their time, money and resources to prop up, support and strengthen Jewish state of Israel. It is an irony of sort.
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Q 254. Jews, Criticism, Do they deserve it?
Ans. We have seen every type of criticism hurled at Jews from so many corners, some of them true and some pure imagination and filled with racial hatred. We must always follow the past of justice and be not biased for or against any group or race or sect or religion or nation etc. But one thing is certain; Jews have totally neutralized Christianity in Europe. There is no issue on which Christians can debate with Jews. The Church has capitulated to Jews in no uncertain terms, without saying so they have declared there forefathers as foolish and ill informed to be against Jews. The Church has issue apology upon apology to Jews for what Christians have been doing to them for past 2000 years. It might look strange, but it is the Church Going People and Church Denominations which are strongly behind Jews, Zionists and Israel for what they are doing to Palestinians. I was told that most of Zionists are indeed Christians and that too members of certain Church Denominations. Somehow Jews have brainwashed Christians that existence of Jewish state and restoration of Solomon's temple in Jerusalem is necessary condition for second coming of Jesus.... Now Jews are simply enjoying the fruits of their efforts...it is Christian and Christian nations who are doing all menial work for them. US and UK are sacrificing their own soldiers in Iraq and else where to see that Israel is safe and well protected. They are fighting proxy war for Israel....they are threatening Syria, Iran, Libya...and so many other countries....just to see that Israel exists there... Can there be any better example of suckers!!
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Q 255 Judaism, Bible, Is word Judaism present in Bible?
Ans. I was unable to find the word "Judaism" is any of the book in the chapters that you mentioned. It talks about Jews and Jewish customs and also about Hebrew language… But it never mentions the word "Judaism" as the religion of any prophet of God. How could Prophets Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob and Joseph could be the follower of Judaism, when Judah and Judaism was not even known at their time? This word is a later day concoction like Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism etc. invented centuries after the prophets left this earth. I do not know what is Tanakh, in which language it is and what is its authenticity and authority. We should not just go by what people call or claim about any book.
Q 256 Jews , Rule, What does History say about it?
Ans. I do not deny that Exodus is a historical fact. But if you think that Jewish conquest of Palestine and their stay there is just a fairy tale, then you are not right. There is some truth and some exaggeration , so we can get a general guidelines for their dealings with Non Jews there. These books were written by Jews and not by others, so we cannot say that someone else showed them into bad light. If you want complete historical proof as to how Jews dealt with non Jews, then we have to take 1948 and onward as example, because from 70 CE to 1948 Jews had no control of any state in the world.
Q 257 Jews, Treatment, How Muslims treated Jews?
Ans. I do not know from where you got all of your information. Let us be frank, Quran describes Jews as the worst of people and has many grave warnings for them. But at the same time Quran asks Muslims to deal justly with every one and the hatred for any group should not make you to do injustice to them.
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That is the way, in which Muslims have dealt with Non Muslims of every description living in their lands. Now you have to ask, what was Jews attitudes towards Muslims is general? They have always planned and plotted against Muslims right from the very first day when our prophet declared his mission. Despite their opposition to Islam and its spread, Muslims have by and large dealt very fairly with them. However if at any stage Jews tried to overthrow any king or prince or do something against the interest of the country in which they were living, they would have had to face the penalty. The way Muslims dealt with Jews was far superior the way Christians treated them for past 2000 years. Every one was encouraged to join Islam as that is basic purpose of Islam to call all mankind to join it. But no force was to be used to convert any one to Islam. In 1400 years Muslims have shown a much better example than any other religious group and we do not need any one to show us light.
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Chapter-8 Misc. Subject Q 258 Dark Ages, Present time, Are we living in Dark Ages?
Ans. To me the position is very clear as to what constitute Basic Human Rights. What are rights and duties for men and women are defined by the one who has created man and woman. The period which you refer as "Dark Ages" for really Dark Age for Christianity and Europe. Islamic World was shining in full glory thru out the globe. epithet does not apply to us. So that
The present age is Real Dark Age, where the Bright Light of Materialism and its attractions, have closed our inner eyes and we have lost distinction between what is Right and what is wrong. But each of us are entitled to our own opinions and there is no harm in that, so long as we are civil to each other and respect each other's view point.
Q 259 Dialogue Limits, What are the limits?
Ans. You asked me why I do not carry out direct discussion with Rt. Hon. ZAHID. I respect your intentions and may be you look forward to a series of informative posts from us, but let me tell you, I have my reasons to not responding to him directly. You might not know, but we had a few exchanges some times back, till I came to the conclusion that it would be a futile exercise on my part. My reasons are as follows: 1. First of all our religion, does not want us to keep on arguing with people who have closed up their minds. Our job is to invite and educate people about Islamic teachings. We can answer any honest doubts and queries, but not deliberate mischievous rhetoric. 2. I take these discussions seriously and devote much of my spare time and energy into posting replies. I do not consider them as a sort of “Wrestling matches” or “Verbal debates” the aim of which is to silence your opponent at any cost.
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3. Rt. Hon. ZAHID claims to be a self claimed authority on Islam as an ex-Muslim. He thinks that just being a name sake Muslim in some part of his life automatically makes him an authority on Islam and Muslims…. but let me tell you his knowledge about Islam is extremely limited and he has not studied it from Islamic sources at all. 3A. Most of doubts and questions he has picked up from Anti Islamic sites and these only he posts verbatim. Many people who do not know much about Islam think him knowledgeable about Islam, but not me. Let me give you a few examples. 4. Quran saying “sun sets in murky waters” is a standard Christian objection on Islam. I can take that question from Non Muslims because they have no knowledge about Quran and its way of expression. But when any Muslim that too an ex-Muslim, one who claims himself authority repeats the same charge, to me it means that this man has no knowledge about Quran and has not studied any of Quranic commentaries written by Muslim scholars.. 5. Then it is standard practice of Anti Islamic writers to search about the episodes of sexual life of our prophet as recorded in authentic Islamic books and then present them before people, quoting out of context and deriving their own brazen conclusions from them. Non Muslims could be excused because of their limited knowledge, but when I see that self claimed authority of Islam repeating these things verbatim, to me his depth of Islamic knowledge is clear. 5A. Let me tell you that discussing sex is not Taboo in Islam. Sex is one of the necessities of life and Quran or Prophetic sayings both have their say on it. 5B. If prophet had not taught us on this important part of life, we would be groping in the dark and making our own ways. A perfect way of life, has to cover every portion of human life and that is why sexual issues are also clarified in Islamic books. 5C. But there is difference between sexual information and pornography, the thin line between them is never breached. Quran takes many precautions about it. - First of All Quran bestows the title of Mother of Believers to all of prophet’s wives
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- Quran then prohibits that any Muslim might ever marry any or prophet’s wives., - Then Quran asks prophet’s wives to wear Hijab and speak in plain tones to people; So that diseased heart may mot draw any wrong conclusion. All these precautions were necessary if Prophet’s private life was to be opened before Muslims. 5D. Then these sexual questions were only asked from Prophet’s wives, it was like children asking from their mothers. 5E. Aiyesha the young prophet wife lived almost 47 years after death of prophet, she instructed Muslims on most matters of prophet’s sexual life. A large part of Islamic knowledge and prophet’s home life has come to us thru Lady Aiyesha and these Islamic enemies make her life most scandalous 6. The final straw came when Rt. Hon. ZAHID started referring to our prophet in the abusive language. That was the point when I parted company and stopped replying directly to him. Because I cannot carry out discussion with any one who uses abusive language for our prophet, the most beloved of all personalities on this earth to us. 6A. Using abusive language for our prophet shows the moral character of Rt. Hon. ZAHID, we have seen many, ex Christians accepting Islam, none of them uses any abusive language against Jesus, We have seen many ex-Hindus accepting Islam. But none of them uses abusive language against their old gods and idols, same holds good for ex-Jews and ex- Buddhists also. 6B. But this ex-Muslim, self claimed authority on Islam and all other world religions uses the same words and phrases that are used by rabid Anti Muslims against our prophet, the noblest soul that ever lived on this earth, one whom Lord of Universe praises as Mercy to Whole Universe, One on Highest Level of Character etc…. That proved that this gentleman is void of even the basic human decencies. 7. Now tell me, will any good come out by discussing any issue with such a Character or am I on fault for not posting directly to him? .
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Q 260 Earth, Human Population, Are humans infesting this planet?
Ans. The way you use “Humans infesting this planet” would make you a hubby with Hitler and Stalin and Pol Pot and people in those exalted circle!! They also thought this planet is “Infested with these damn Jews” or “These Reactionists” and “These Non Communists” They tried their best to free the world from these “Infested species”. You are unique that you include human race itself as “Infesting this planet”. So you would be happy to see 80 % of Human Population, that comes to around 4,800,000,000 “Culled” to restore the “Natural Balance” in the world. By God you look and sound scary!!! Who would dare to walk down a dark alley with you!! Are you by any chance related to Malthuse and Charles Darwin? Darwin said it is the Survival of Fittest, so humans must be the fittest specie to survive. Why are you whining? Are you not Human?
Q 261 Exploitation, US, How US common folks are exploited?
Ans. I thank you for your post. As I told you I am not against evolution myself, but to me it has a limit. The way these people want to define evolution and the way I understand it are two different things. In their views there is no Creator, there is no Planning and there is no Design any where in this Universe, things just happened by chance and species evolved by itself thru Random Mutation and Natural Selection. No specie knew in which direction it is going and what would be the final outcome of that course. In my understanding, species are evolving and being extinct as per the plan and design of their Creator. It is He who is behind it all. No specie evolve thru Random Mutations, they evolve thru taking well known discreet steps as per the plan and design made by the Creator.
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My approach is not only logical and reasonable, but it is also proven by fossil records and whatever experiments humans have done. Majority of US citizens are peace loving, but they are pliable as putty in the hands of Media, and Business Tycoons. They have very less choice in deciding economic or financial policies. That is why they are being exploited by these classes. That is why US has become a symbol of arrogance and exploitation in most parts of the world. As you will read more from the Perkins interview it would become clear. I learned my English in India during my studies at Indian Universities.
Q 262 Free Mixing, Are Western people immune to women’s charms?
Ans. I have no comments for you if you do not get any excitement by seeing women in bathing suits. But let me tell you, other members of your society are not immune to their charms as yourself. We have seen sexual scandals coming in light daily involving Governors, Senators, Ministers, People in High and Responsible positions, Priests and every one else. Even your President could not contain the charm of women body and had illegal sex with her right in the Oval Office. These are the cases which come into light and believe me, they are only tip of Iceberg. What are revealed are less that 10 % of what actually take place. In Islam we remove the temptation to minimum, we do not allow free mixing of sexes, so that none of the parties are put to temptation. Your society on the other hand, puts all temptation in the path, free mixing of sexes, exposure of women body, free use of Alcohol and then expects that they shall behave in a coherent matter. You put petrol and fire together and hope it will not catch fire.. I know there are countless religions and let every one adhere to the religion of his or her choice. Why should you feel unhappy if Muslims choose to live by Islamic laws and Islamic rules.
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Shariah law is not strict, it is as per human nature. Any one who wants a peaceful living will find that Shariah laws are very easy and suited to true human nature. But if your nature is distorted, you will feel uneasy in Shariah laws. I think you for the News Bulletin that Israel is not yet gone…. They used to broadcast the same bulletin about USSR… from 1917 till 1991…when the curse was finally removed…. Israel will also go the same way… Inshallah
Q 263 Freedom Struggle, Terrorism, Are they same? Ans. Any country taking control of any people without their wishes
and consent is wrong. That goes for Ukraine, Tibet, Kashmir, Palestine and else where. The people so wronged have natural right to fight for their independence. If Russia (I prey to God that it does not happen) takes over Ukraine by force, then you have a God given right to fight for your independence. Whole world should support your claim. And during that freedom struggle, you would look like those Palestinians and Kashmiris and other nations whom you accuse of extremism and terrorism. May be then you will understand, how painful is to live under bondage of another nation. The war is not the first option and not any answer to solve any problem. But look it another way, would you even have known that Palestinians existed if they had not started their struggle? The world had forgotten that Palestinians even existed, between 1948 – 1989, after 1989 when they started their freedom movement, at least people know that there are Palestinians in this world and they have some problems. Tyrants and aggressors and usurpers always want status quo, so they can enjoy their illegal gains and fruits. I hope and prey that Ukrainians are saved from this worse fate, but may be now you will see the situation in Chechnya in some what a different light.
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Q 264 Fundamentalism, Good or Bad, Is Fundamentalism always bad? Ans. To say the truth, being fundamentalist is not a bad thing after
all. A good Mathematician is the one who sticks to basic Fundamentals of Math. A Good Scientist is one who sticks to the Fundamentals of science and does not spare his energy in going into theories that contradict those fundamentals (Like Perpetual Motion gadgets or turning Copper into Gold type of activities). A good medical doctor is one who sticks to the fundamentals of Medicine. In the same way a Good soldier and a good general is one who sticks to the fundamentals of warfare and weapon system. A good driver is one who sticks to the fundamentals of driving and traffic system. In the same way, a successful thief, and a pickpocket is one who sticks to the fundamentals of his profession. So just because some one believes and acts on fundamentals of any field makes him a bad guy. We have to see that those fundamentals that you believe in are good or bad for society or not. I believe that none of the fundamentals that I believe in are wrong and harmful for the society at large. So your charge that I am a Fundamental Muslim is infact an honor. I prey to God that I indeed become a real Fundamentalist Muslims and all Muslims should try to be real Fundamentalist.
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Q 265 Guidance , Divine, Is it necessary? Ans. The wish is mutual, we hope that sooner or later you will see the
follies of this Materialistic Approach that west is following and the troubles and burdens it has put on humanity. You will realize that by rejecting divine guidance, you and the society have nor harmed any one but themselves, not only in this world but in the hereafter also. So we are even on the wishing front. Shahid is one who sacrifices his or her life in the cause of God and only for the pleasure of God. If such a person is not loved by God…then does He love us, couch potatoes, who do nothing but just have vain talks and simply type into a Key Board? But who is real Shahid is known only to God and to no one else, because God only knows the secrets hidden in the breasts of individuals.
Q 266 Gun Control, Is gun control against freedom? Ans. NRA attitude is a bit unreasonable. No one wants that a citizen
should not have any arms for self defense. But a check to find out the past record or past behavior of any person before allowing him to possess a deadly weapon is very reasonable. Blank check for any one to but any type of gun in the open market would result in many such cases. It is evident that number of mentally ill people in US and in other parts of the world is on the rise. It is hardly surprising that such cases of violence are becoming a common place incidents. Check on issue of gun has nothing to do with freedom of individual. The freedom is not absolute, it is subject to check by the society and its laws. Rules should change with change of time, that is what you advocate to every one. Why Guns and Tobacco should be outside that fence?
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Q 267 Hate, India, Is there racism in India? Ans. It is shame on us Indians ...any one reading these hate posts
would know the hatred hidden inside Indians for each other. Most of the message is in vernacular ... so many English speaking people would not understand it. But it is plain vulgar abuses and nothing else. Even the names they select for themselves are vulgar to the extreme. These people where they live in India or Australia or any where are racists and hate mongers and that too in the extreme!! How could we complain about Australians when such people (mind you they are not alone, there could be thousands like them) live inside our won India. You see these people during riots.. when they kill babies before their mothers...they rape women in front of their husbands and children...they burn alive many people in their homes and huts. This is also one image of India... I feel ashamed about it... But I am helpless.. But I know that majority of Indians are not like these scum...Majority of Indians (Hindus, Muslims, Sikhs, North Indians, South Indians, Punjabis, Marathi, Bengalis....) are peace loving and they respect each other. That is why India has survived for thousands of years... Otherwise in the hand of these hate mongers, India would have been a thing of past.. a nation divided into one hundred thousands kingdoms (as was the norm before Muslims came to India). I apologize to people on this thread for what these scum have written against each other...that too on an International forum!!
Q 268 India, Circumcision, Are Indian circumcised? Ans. India is home to almost every religion of this world. So there
are people of every religion and sects living there.
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Majority of Populations are Hindus who are not circumcised. Around 14 % are Muslims who are circumcised, Small Jewish Community is also circumcised. Sikhs do not circumcise Majority of Tribal people are also not circumcised. Christians (Majority of them) who follow Paul do not circumcise. But now there are growing number of people who do get circumcise due to medical reasons in hospitals, at birth and some after getting some medical complications.
Q 269 India, Hygiene, Is bathing in Ganges Unhygienic? Ans. I am sure you have never been to India and only seen the
picture of Ganges in Films and books and Newspapers. When people live in some environment they get a sort of immunization from it. May be a Western would become sick after taking bath in Ganges, but of millions of Hindus who take bath, very few fall ill. By the way I am a Muslim and I do not take bath in Ganges, for me it is like any other river on this earth. But I do not make fun of our fellow country men for taking bath in Ganges. There is nothing wrong from religious point of view for people to take bath in any river.
Q 270 Indians, Are Indians responsible for Economic Slowdown? Ans. Thank for a very well written post. I tried to be honest and not
diplomatic. There are always two sides of the story. May be I put the other side of the story too plainly. Actually Immigration is the need of many western nations.
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Their population rates are decreasing, to survive they do need people and that is the real reason that countries like USA, Canada, Australia etc allow immigration. Australia is very big and bulk of it is un-inhabited. So they need extra manpower each year. They have right to choose whom they allow into their countries, but once the people go there , they are a sort of resource. To be used properly. If you do not cultivate this resource, the loss would be yours. That was the theme of my post. By the way, Indians are in no way responsible for Economic Slow down in US and West. They are suffering same as other people in those countries. But this is a temporary phenomenon, it would blow over. But the philosophy and attitudes of people does not change so fast. There is more racial discrimination in countries which were British colonies….and this is evident from many things.
Q 271 Iran, Bias, Is Media Biased? Ans. The Bias is evident from your post itself.
Ayatollah as a "Fascist" already!! And that is how your media and your thinking works. Any thing outside your narrow thinking and you jump to call it inhuman and barbaric and so on. Leave the people to live their lives. If Iranian people were so modern thinking, what about the movement against Shah? Was that not a popular uprising? Are you supporter of Shah of Iran and the wealth he accumulated? You have judged
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If Iranian leaders are not honest and persecuting people, they also will be thrown away. But to ask a country populated by Muslims to live like a Muslim is not oppression in my view. The state has duties to maintain secular as well as religious order. That is what Iran, Saudi Arabia and other Islamic countries and majority of people want. There could always be some dissenting voices and they should be given freedom to express their views. But there is a limit to such freedom...like in USA, no one will allow Al Qaeda and Taliban to give a speech on TV, even though US calls itself as pall bearer of Freedom of Speech and expression. What is happening in Iran is their internal problem and let them deal with it. PS: I do not want to make a personal comment. But if Mrs. Chimney has thinking any where like Mr. Chimney, she and her family would "Choke" in the Islamic State of Iran. Best course for such people is to leave Iran and enjoy "Freedom" else where. I know why is so much anger in west against Ahmadinezad. He openly asked Holocaust to be re-investigated and put in proper perspective. He did not tow West Lines for Nuclear Program. The West turned a blind eye for the Nuclear capability of Israel and want to put all restrictions on other nations. They never want a level field...do they?
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Q 272 KSA, Iran, Israeli planes to fly over KSA? Ans. Divide and Rule has always been the policy of Western people. I
am not surprised if they are egging one Muslim nation against another brother Islamic Nation. Non Unity amongst Muslim leaders is one of the basic problem with which Islamic nations are facing. I do not blame any one for this problem, only saying that it is your dearest wish that Muslims should not unite. May be sooner or later our leaders would realize that their safety and security lies in uniting and not being disunited. Now coming to the present issue of Saudi allowing Israeli planes to flow over it to Iran, I think it is part of the misinformation campaign and sowing the seed of enmity between two brother Islamic nations. Already they have seen the futility of 10 year Iran – Iraq War, if they are foolish enough to repeat it, then they are real fools. I hope that your eyes are not cooled and we do not see Muslim nations fighting with each other. They should unite and fight against the common enemy.
Q 272 LIFE, What is life? Ans. Life is a wonderful gift of Creator as well as a test for human
folks. Those who use their lives in walking in the ways of their Creator would earn rewards in an everlasting next life. Those who follow their vanities and false hopes would earn the wrath of their Creator in the next life. That is in short what life is all about. It is a means to make our next life, what we want it to be.
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Q 273 Males, Lost case, When males are lost case? Ans. Have you forgotten that he has had seven daughters already?
Did any one enquire what are the ages of those daughters? Then I saw that some female got pregnant at the age of 66 years. The wonders of God would never end and there will always be events to remind us that our knowledge is not perfect and our perceptions are prone to error. Then can you tell me, medically, what is the age as which "It is a lost cause for any male" ?
Q 274 Moral Values, Decay, Why Civilizations crumble? Ans. Why only Rome? Every Civilization comes down when Moral
decay takes root with most of its population. When any civilization is young and when it is mature, most of its members follow strict moral code. They have high aims to reach their goal...to built the civilization...to strengthen its pillars.. But when it takes root, the later generations just eat its fruit, indulging in luxuries and have loose morals... With that they start oppressing common men of the countries and its neighbors... The mental rots sits it and gnaws the civilization from inside...to an outsider it looks as if the civilization is at its peak and has very solid foundations...then it crumbles with a thud and finds its place in the pages of history. Remember fall of USSR? How strong it looked ten years before it fell? It was going to conquer the world? But what was inside the iron curtain? Loose morals and oppression and it fell with a thud What happened to Great British Empire of 18th and 19th Century? Could any one think that with in a span of 20 years it would loose all its glory? What was the reason of its down fall? Oppression and lax moral values.
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The same happened to Roman Empire, Persian Empire...Arabian Empire and all other empires. People only cite Military strength and Military defeats as reasons for rise and fall of civilizations, but moral decay also has a very strong contributing factor. During the hay days of any civilization, one or more military defeats do not count much. But in its later years it is like a hollow brick wall whose strength is gone.. a slight push brings down the whole super structure. With Moral decay in mind...can any one guess what is the remaining life of US domination in the world? Which nation of the world is ready to take its place? What is the moral position of other nations of the world?
Q 275 Moral Values, Decay, Why Civilizations crumble? Ans. Why only Rome? Every Civilization comes down when Moral
decay takes root with most of its population. When any civilization is young and when it is mature, most of its members follow strict moral code. They have high aims to reach their goal...to built the civilization...to strengthen its pillars.. But when it takes root, the later generations just eat its fruit, indulging in luxuries and have loose morals... With that they start oppressing common men of the countries and its neighbors... The mental rots sits it and gnaws the civilization from inside...to an outsider it looks as if the civilization is at its peak and has very solid foundations...then it crumbles with a thud and finds its place in the pages of history. Remember fall of USSR? How strong it looked ten years before it fell? It was going to conquer the world? But what was inside the iron curtain? Loose morals and oppression and it fell with a thud What happened to Great British Empire of 18th and 19th Century? Could any one think that with in a span of 20 years it would loose all
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its glory? What was the reason of its down fall? Oppression and lax moral values. The same happened to Roman Empire, Persian Empire...Arabian Empire and all other empires. People only cite Military strength and Military defeats as reasons for rise and fall of civilizations, but moral decay also has a very strong contributing factor. During the hay days of any civilization, one or more military defeats do not count much. But in its later years it is like a hollow brick wall whose strength is gone.. a slight push brings down the whole super structure. With Moral decay in mind...can any one guess what is the remaining life of US domination in the world? Which nation of the world is ready to take its place? What is the moral position of other nations of the world?
Q 276. Morality, Source, What is real source of Morality? Ans. If there is no accountability for one's actions there is no real
basis for any moral values. What is the purpose for any one to follow any morals values if in the end it is not going to matter when he dies. All morality and moral values would therefore be as to how to go on living on this earth. It is what I said "Give and take" policy. I should be good to people because they will also be good to me. Why should I be hungry and give my food to a poor human being? What is in it for me? Human beings are basically selfish and they would ask this question whenever any sacrifice is to made or they had to do are restrain from doing any action. And that is where this concept of Accountability to a higher authority comes into force. We do not follow moral principles just to show off or to please any one, but to please our Creator.
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That is real morality which does not require any police force to implement. That is the concept of God Consciousness which is the goal of Islam. That is the basic aim. But since there are humans of every type on this earth, the punishments are for those who will not listen to any other logic except that. It is not the punishments which make a society abide with moral values, but they keep the defaulters down. If one does not belief in any accountability or higher purpose of life, for them there is no real morality. Whatever it seems to be is only skin deep.
Q 277 Name of Days, Pagan, Are names of week days pagan? Ans. This English names of Days are based on pagan system, ie.
SUNDAY, MONDAY, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY, FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. in Islamic system, only two days have names, that is SABT (For Saturday) And JUMA (For Friday), all other days are only numbers i.e. Sunday : YAOUM AL AHAD (FIRST DAY). MONDAY : YOUM AL ITHNAIN (2ND DAY) TUESDAY: YOUM THULOOTH (3RD DAY). WEDNESDAY: YAUM AL ARBA'(4TH DAY). THURSADY : YAUM AL KHAMEES (5TH DAY). SATURDAY: SABT IS WELL KNOWN IN JEWISH CIRCLE. JUMAH: There are prophetic traditions giving reason for naming it such. But these are not dogmatic and not basis of any faith. Like saying that Last day will on Friday etc.
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Q 278 Nations, Survival, Do nations survive only on Military strength? Ans. If the only reason and only logic for rise and fall of nations is
only the strength of their armies, then how would you explain the defeats of Highly trained and numerous armies at the hands of their weaker opponents? There is no shortage in history when an apparently weaker army has defeated their much stronger opponents and many mighty nations have disappeared from the world scenes. No doubt strength of army is required, but that is not the only thing for survival of nations. How a mighty USSR empire vanished before our own eyes. Who went and attacked them? Did their Mighty Arms, Arsenal and Nuclear Missiles were able to stop their break up? Nations survive only on the basis of their good deeds and not only on the basis of their strength. There is a separate law for existence of nations. So Israel should not only concentrate on the strength of their armed forces and arsenal, they should see that they fulfill the Basic Purpose for which they were supposed to be Chosen by God and do not persecute weaker people. That is the reality about which you are ignorant. Stop boasting about the military strength of Israel, since 1967 they have not won any war in ME.
Q 279. Politics, Criminals, Do they only belong to one party? Ans. Why link criminal activity with only one party? Every party has
had its share of Criminals and Tricksters and some from both parties reached to the level of President of USA. You can not fool every one every time, but you can fool majority of voters (~ 50 % of total voters) for getting you elected and then fool them again after four years (to get re-elected) and then you hang your gloves and retire in glory.
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Now, it is the nation who will protect you from further onslaught, not a bad thing for a Criminal. GWB and Dick Cheney are the latest examples. Any attack on them is defended by all Republicans then majority of US population.
Q 280. Politics, GWB, Should he get a second term? Ans. If Americans are gullible enough to vote for second term for
GWB and Cheney, why do people whine against re-election of Ahmadinezad? At least he did not lead Iran into any illegal war. He committed no war crime and he did not commit any act of terrorism. He did not lie to his people....he did not mislead the world. He only supported his just stand on nuclear arms, If Israel has nuclear weapons and whole world is silent, why should Iran not have it? Why has USA linked its prestige and survival in supporting Israel? Would foundations of world crumble if Israel is wiped out of the world map? Was not world moving around fine, when there was no Zionist state of Israel in Palestine? Why cant people think objectively? When Americans can give a terrorist and liar like GWB a second term, why should they not re-elect Obama? Do you have to be a crook, a liar and a Terrorist to win a second Term? Why cant people think objectively? Why should there be a war monger President in White House? Why people like blood shed all the time?
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Q 281 Population, Control , What should be done? Ans. I know you would shudder at the idea of genocide, but your
intentions are going in that directions. If you believe that the world is grossly overpopulated then any means to reduce it would be welcome. I do not know why it was that some one did not advise your parents about this overpopulation issue, so you would not have been born and would not contribute to this problem. When I pose this problem to those who complain about world being overpopulated, they some how keep quite. It is interesting to hear from you that there are many gods … first tell me what is your concept of God and then what do you mean that there are many gods in the universe.
Q 282. Racism, Indians, Do they take regular baths? Ans. If you look carefully, Indians are supposed to take bath every
day. I don’t think there is any religion where more frequent baths are required than Hinduism. But this man is a freak and we cannot compare them to other Indians. But I see most people on this thread are just making fun and passing comments on every Indian and India and Asia and Asians in general. If these people are not racists then they are at least snobs. As I had told in Early Christians, there was no concept of taking regular baths or washing face or any concept of personal hygiene. The Monks and most of people whom we revere today as saints, never took bath for many decades. Public and Private Baths in Europe were started only after Muslims came to Spain. Now in the eyes of Europeans Muslims and Arabs are dirtiest of all people.
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Q 283. Sexual Freedom, West, Why is it not working? Ans. It was news to me that your parents belonged to devout Hindu
family and still you have those views about Nudist camp. It is not my intention to criticize any one, but I feel that all these people going to nudist camps etc are in fact hypocrites. If they are firm in their belief that humans should not wear any clothes, then they should do it openly and fight for their rights. If they think that they are just like any animal, why should they care if someone looks at their groin area or not. Would any animal care if another animal looked at some body part of it? So they are torn between two things…. In the seclusion of their camp they take off their clothes and while going out in the “Weird World” outside they put on the clothes. You might have heard of Indians SADHUS living stark naked thru out their lives. They might be weird, but they are not hypocrites. The topic of our discussion was ways and means to reduce crime against women. You have given so many examples in the Western society, but still the crime graph is not coming down. There is no solution to this problem….at least not with the western methods. Freedom is good….but unbound freedom is bad for the society….there should be freedom to do good deeds…. To feed the poor,…to give charity…. To educate others. But there should not be freedom for sexual laxity….for Gambling Dens…..for pre-marital sex…for strip tease joints….for live shows and for walking naked on streets. That is where you need guidance from your Creator and do not rely only on your half baked logic. That is how a society and a civilization progresses. By the way, you have accused policeman and army in third world countries of committing crimes against women. Let me tell you, western Army and Police are no better, let us say when they get their ways.
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What they did in Gitmo and Abu Gharib and Vietnam is before every one. They are as much human beasts as the rest of us.
Q 284. Stories, New Converts, Why one should post them? Ans. My aim of posting these true stories from New Converts is to
show that whenever any one has studied Islam with an open mind, without bias, and looking for guidance, he has always obtained it. As per you or Sound Doc. there is total darkness in Islam and it is based of force, deception and tricks. If that was the case , many of the honest minds thru out history would not have accepted Islam. Perhaps you need some introspection as to why your tirades against Islam is failing. The point is that truth always has a force and attraction of its own, which no propaganda, no abuses and no force can stop.
Q 285 Study Abroad, Should Indians study Abroad? Ans. After reading most of the comments, from extreme hate to all
Asians (by Racists Australians) to equally harsh retorts (By White haters).... I have some thing to say as an Indian working in Saudi Arabia. First of all the migration of human race from one part of the world to another part is not a new phenomenon. It has been happening at all periods of human civilization. There is no country, race or people who can claim absolute superiority over others for all periods of time. cases of Rise and fall of nations, races and civilizations are those that fill history books. I do not deny that white people were the first to start Industrial revolution, which was the prime reason for our modern civilization.
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But no one can say that they just started from scratch...they received their education from Arabs and other people who were leading the World in those days. So instead of being humble and reasonable as should have been the case, I find that racist people think that it is only the color of their skin that raises them above all others and they do not need any other qualities to get to that position. Now coming to the points, Indians have been migrating to other countries since ages. There is hardly any country where Indians are not founded. It was due to reason of trade, learning, earning livelihood or for studies that people go to other countries. Europeans also go to nations of Asia, Africa, ME and else where for these reasons, so there is nothing to feel ashamed about it. India as a Big country certainly has its own problems with poverty, Sanitation, hygiene, infrastructure, violence, social injustice and so many things mentioned in these posts. I do not deny them, because they do exist, what we should strive is to lower them and improve our conditions. Things have changed a lot in past couple of decades. Let me take the example of Cricket itself... Till 1990 s it were Indian players who were going to England, Australia to play domestic league and get some money.. Now in IPS we see Englishmen, Australians, SA and all other countries to share in the pie. Players like Chapel Brothers, Boycott, Shane Warne and others who in their hey days would find an excuse to not visit India, now come and stay there for months at stretch and have all praises for India!! India has progresses, but its progress has been lopsided, It has concentrated more on creating Modern Industrial Superstructures than improving lot of its common people. India has a whole must progress, not a miniscule minority. India boasts of World's Richest persons as well as highest numbers of poor people, beggars, blind persons etc.
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India is indeed a country of contrasts. So we see people having extreme love as well as unabashed hate for India and every thing Indian. But I can say that Indians do not have to go to Western countries to study Engineering, or Medical courses. They go there because their parents are very rich and these students are not bright enough to compete in the domestic competitions. But Indians need to go to Western countries for getting specializations in certain fields. That is money well spent and good for country. Then Indians need to go to other countries for employment if they cannot find a good job in India. To the employers we come at lower price than white counterparts, but do not underestimate all Indians. Some of them are better than the best and can compete and outshine those that have different color of skins. We should be moderate in both Love and Hate.
Q 286 Tolerance, Love, Are they One Way Street? Ans. Love, hate , respect and tolerance are mutual sentiments and
these are not one way street. From the Racial remarks put on this thread by so many Australians show how racist they are. Coming to behaving like Romans while in Rome, do Australian ladies wear "Sari" when they are in India? Indians do not mind Australian lades wearing skirt and blouses, while many in your country would object seeing any Indian lady wearing a "Sari". Just by living in any other country, no one cuts the link with their home nation permanently. That is the wrong concept of Nationalism and Patriotism being taught in western world and racists.
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Give respect and use these Human Resources....they would help Australia grow and prosper.
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Q 287. USA Haughtiness, Is US haughty? Ans. India being perfect or not has nothing to do for Indians to work
outside for earning a better living. For that matter there are many US, Canadian, European and Australians working in ME to earn a quick dollar. Second you do not own this thread to protest why an Indian is writing on a purely US issue. For that matter, we have seen enough US interference in our and other countries internal matters. If Asian made goods do not meet American safety standards then why they are flooding American markets. It means that you are no more competitive in global market. The only market where you hold the edge is Arms market, that is why you always want that conflicts of one type or other must be continuing in one part of the world or other. Your hands can be seen on one or both side. Reelection of Bush and Cheney would be a permanent blot on the election and democracy system of USA. Protests and demo not withstanding, he brainwashed the majority of voters. Right treatment for him was shown in Iraq , but still he is being protected by the tax payers. I am not obsessed with homos, we would have left you very much to simmer in your juices, had it not been for your interference and pressure in granting to homos equal rights in our society too. Your comments regarding Quran show that you have not read Quran at all. The creator has every right to provide guidance to His creations as to what is the best way to live a happy life in this world and in the hereafter. If you reject that guidance, then you are oscillating between two extremes. What is Nazism, Fascism, Communism, Capitalism and Nationalism but different extremes in way of thinking. None of these isms have solved humanity’s problems and we are worse than when we rejected divine Guidance. All in all your post was an expression of haughty attitude and looking down on other people and their way of living. Dale Carnegie would learn some thing from you as “How to influence people and gain friends”!!
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Q 288. Fire Arm Control, Should it be? Ans. I did not say that no citizen should have any firearm for self
defense. I only said that there could be checks to verify who can have arms and who cannot. There could be some sort of screening and that is not unreasonable and not encroachment on your personal freedom. That is why most nations on earth have some sort of Gun Control laws. If the same is applied in USA, its foundations would not crumble as NRA is crying. The middle path is the best one, under the current laws any one can have access to any type of gun and any amount of ammunition. That has resulted in many of blood baths and these case are not imaginary. Remember Virginia Tech incident? The boy could not have so many guns and so much ammunition in many of the countries of the world. Exceptions prove the rule…. So instead of talking about rights of law abiding citizens owning guns, spare some thoughts about those poor victims of these shootouts… what was their fault and who should bear the responsibility. I think I am not being too damn unreasonable.
Q 289 Week and Months, Names, How they originated? Ans. Your belief in BTOE is as deep rooted as our belief in Creator!!
You will go to any length to defend your BTOE. Genetically programmed death and re-birth and what not and what not, every thing is acceptable to you, so long it has no dealings with any Plan, Design or Planner and Designer. The Genetic codes get programmed themselves or without need for any programmer. Even after so many efforts we are unable to achieve such a feat in our labs with many best brains of earthy working on it.
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But these things just happened billions of years ago in the heat and dust and volcanic eruptions and earthquakes and what not, and what is more keep on happening. It must be a really strong potion which instilled such a firm belief in BTOE on its ardent followers!! I did not say that concept of seven day week was Pagan, I said that these names of the days were chosen by pagan and some how got accepted in Christianity. In Muslim world we still go by the counting method as I mentioned. It is followed in Saudi Arabia and most Arab and other countries. I must say that over the years these name of days have lost their pagan meanings and have gained universal usage, nevertheless they are named after pagan gods and stars and planets. How seven day week and twelve months for the year concept started is not known. As per Quran this was from the very beginning of human civilization. It might be part of the original instructions given to the first Human (Adam) when he set foot on this earth. In the beginning every one followed Lunar Calendar, because it was so easy to count and verify the beginning and end of each month. Later the Solar Calendar was adopted to keep pace with the harvesting seasons and Lunar Calendar was synchronized with Solar calendar by adding one month after the end of each three months (approx.) This is another topic and shows that while Lunar Calendar is very accurate and it is not possible to miss any day in it, whereas so many days and months have been lost in the Solar Calendar system. If you go thru History of Modern Calendar, it would amaze you as to how many twists and turns it took before it reached to us in modern form.
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Q 290 World Population, Is World Overpopulated? Ans. I will comment only on that portion of your post where you said
“World is overpopulated by 500 % and there is enough potable water to last for 50 years..” That is the part where Science has taken the place of Astrologer and talking about things which they have no knowledge. You say, world population is more by 500 %? What do you mean, there is no food for 80 % of World Population? Then 80 % people would have died of starvation. Is that so? In fact there is no shortage of food in the world to day, what we have in the problem of disproportionate distribution. In one part of the world the food grains are burned and dumped into the ocean and in another part, people do not have enough food. We have not exhausted the fertility of earth and how much food it can grow… We have not yet seen and fully know the potential which seas have for human beings. Then you say that we have potable water that would last for only 50 years….this is the point where scientists have been making repeated mistakes, let us take some examples: 1. They predicted in 1756 that Britain has coal stocks that would last for 25 years!!! Now it is 2009, and still there is coal in Britain!!! 2. In 1980 s they predicted that Oil Stocks of Middle East would finish in 25-30 years, these years have passed and still there is no shortage of oil in ME. The scientists and philosophers are always taking the most negative attitudes and are always warning about dark futures. They have no knowledge about the real resources of Earth and its treasures. There is also a Creator of This Earth, who KNOWS how much population can this earth sustain. He knows the capabilities of humans and how would they solve their problems.
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In 1947, India had a population of 300 Million and there was widespread shortage of food grain In India. In 2009 India has population of 1200 Millions, and there is no shortage of food grain there. The problem is faulty distribution and human greed. The Creator has made enough provisions. Humans have lost their faith in Him and are trying their own philosophies .
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Chapter-8 (Religion) Q 291 Religion, Co-existence, Common ground Ans. Will you be kind enough to educate us what is your religion...
What are the fundamentals of your religion? Instead of fighting with each other, let us educate each other about religions and see how many things are common between our religions. We only try to highlight the differences between our religions so as to mean that we only have differences. Why not talk about the commonalties for a change?
Q 292 Religion, Co-existence, Who fights in the name of religion? Ans. A true Christian is one who truth fully follows the message
brought by Jesus Christ. A true Jew is one who truthfully follows the message brought by Moses. A True Muslim is one who truthfully follows the message brought by Prophet Mohammad. In fact there will be no differences in a True Christian, True Jews and a True Muslims, since there was no difference between Jesus, Moses and Mohammad. These prophets of God were like Brothers unto each other and loved and respected each other. But the imperfect followers of these prophets, the Pseudo Christians , the Pseudo Jews and Pseudo Muslims are fighting and arguing against each other. That in nutshell is my analysis of arguments and fights that Christians, Jews and Muslims had or are having.
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Q 293. Religion, Crimes, Should we Tempt Criminals? Ans. I think it is you who missed the point.
While every one is responsible for his individual behaviour, the society should also keep the temptation to a minimum. Would you keep the doors of banks open during the night and would hope that people would control themselves and would not rob? Would you leave a pile of notes on the sidewalk and expect all "right minding citizens" would mind their own business and have nothing to do with it? In the same way, if you expect that a naked woman (or a semi naked women) would walk in the crowd and every male would "Lower their gaze" and not look at her. Or if they look at her, they would have no brazen thoughts in their minds. It is news for me that your society is made of angels or hermits (even hermits would be tempted in long run). But going by the ever increasing crime rates in your society I am sure that you are also as human as us. In your society there is no shortage of Rapists and Perverts that you have to import them from other society. In your society you would provide maximum means of temptation and then hope for people to behave logically, in our society we would reduce the means of temptations to the minimum possible value and then punish the REAL CRIMINALS. In your society, you tempt people to become criminals and then punish them lightly as evil is not a thing to be abhorred in your society. Now you decide who is pervert and who is extremist?
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Q 294. Religion, Evolution, Do religions really evolve? Ans. I can say that I am overwhelmed by the response that I got for
my last post. Most of the posts were just name calling and do not need any response. However there were a few points on which I should clarify: A. Do Religions Evolve: I was corrected that religions do not evolve, they just change. I used the term Evolution in loose sense, in the language of the questioner. The basic tenets of all revealed religions are same, but the practical laws and practices do change due to passage of time. So the earlier religions were revealed when the human civilization was in their early stages. Islam came when it had reached maturity, and that is why it is the final guidance that has to be followed till the day of judgment. Thank you for correcting me! B. Is God Single cell Creature: Apparently the writer is not familiar with the astronomy. Otherwise to say that Creator of this Universe is a single cell can only be termed as stupid. Sometime mans forgets his limits and says some thing which are beyond reasons. C. I ran away from Debates: Then some one charged me that I ran away from debate. As if this was a sort of boxing or wrestling match. These threads are there for information exchange. demand any one to accept his or her views. No one should
We can discuss any issue provided it is done in civil language and in a civilized manner..
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I cannot continue discussion with any one who uses abusive language against the personality and character of our prophet. This is against the basic laws of any civil discussions to use abusive language against any one. That was one instance where I did not continue discussions. Another was the case, in which we have each said what we had to say that the topic has reached a dead end. In such cases also there is no advantage in continuing discussions, it is only a pretense. In such cases also, I do not continue. If you look closely, most of my "Posting pals" come under these two categories. Otherwise whenever I see any sincere comment or question, I do reply back. Have a nice day folks and continue to evolve back to that common ancestor, from which you originally evolved (Now some one will call that an insult and abuse, in real sense, it is just a pun)
Q 295. Religion, Heaven / Hell, Do we really know about it? Ans. Thanks for your honest reply. You are right no one really knows
about Heaven / Hell. In this life they are beliefs based on teachings of prophets. The reality shall be only known when we die. All sins would indeed be scars on our souls. We have asked our God to forgive our sins and we have pinned our hope on His mercy. If he accepts our pleas, then all will be well with us, otherwise we are due for a grievous chastisement. But I was asking from those people who say that Jesus has died for our sins and he has taken away our sins. I just wanted to know what it really means.
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Q 296. Religion, Islam, Is Islam the oldest religion? Ans. I heard the pros and cons for that discussion, I think both
parties are right, but both are under some misconceptions. I hope my post will clarify it some what. A. What is Islam: 1. Islam in Arabic means Submitting one self to the will of God, the Sole Creator of this universe. Any one who does that is Muslim and his religion is Islam. 2. This religion of Islam, is not based on the name of any person, race, place, nation , language or color , it is free of any division / distinction which humans use to divide themselves. 3. If you think with that definition, I doubt whether any one will say, that I am not a Muslim, which religious person will say that I do not submit myself to my Creator? B. What was the Religion of Past Prophets? 1. According to Quran, God sent His messengers to all people, in all nations and in all times. 2. Since these messengers were sent by same God, so they preached the same religion, it is very logical and does not need much argument. 3. In the same way, God sent books to these messengers, so as to guide their people as to how to live in accordance with the Will of God. It is like wise easy to understand that these books also would have taught the same basic message. C. What are the Basic Tenets of All religions of prophet: 1. As per Quran, the basic tenets of God’s Only true religion was the Worship of One True God and Deny the Worship of Any other person, thing, object or any thing else in the Universe. This is called Monotheism. 2. Another basic teaching of That Religion was that there will be life after death, in which the man has to give account of his deeds to his
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Creator. Those who have done good will be rewarded and those who have done evil shall be punished. 3. Then that religion has some Uniform rituals, Regular Praying, Fasting, Spending wealth on Charity, and Pilgrimage to some known place. Then that religion has some instructions about way of life, what is allowed and what is forbidden. E. Why different prophets were sent to different nations? 1. That is a point that needs some justification. In the beginning of human civilization, there were not enough means for people to travel and interact with people of other nations. 2. Their language and customs were so different from each other that special provision had to be made to accommodate these into the practical way of life. 3. That is why, God sent prophets in different parts of worlds, speaking different languages and he sent books also in different languages. The missions of these prophets were limited to their own people and to their own nations and to a fixed geographical location. F. Why there are so many religions and so many names? 1. One would ask, why then we see so many religions, known by so many names? Like Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism, Christianity etc. 2. If you look carefully, these names are chosen by the followers of prophet themselves and they were not given by the prophets themselves. For example, Moses did not name his followers as Judaists, Jesus did not name his followers as Christians, Buddha did not name his followers as Buddhists. The word Hinduism is not to be found in Hindu Scripture. This name was given by other people to people living in India. The true religion of India is known as Sanatan Dharma, which is translated as Old Religion. 3. Therefore all these names are man made and not given by God almighty.
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G. Corruptions in the Original religion of prophets: 1. Once the prophet died, their followers did not preserve their teachings or books strictly. The books and message got changed and corrupted due to passage of time. 2. The evident of this change and corruption is well documented in Judaism and Christianity. Hinduism and Buddhism is not researched in that detail, but it is very clear that Hindus do not have any proof that their books are same which were handed over to them by their prophets. 3. It is only claims which have no real proofs behind it. H. Final Prophet and His Mission: 1. It was in God’s plan that when human civilization becomes mature and means of interaction between different nations improve, a Final (Last) prophet would be sent as a Universal messenger to all people. 2. Thru this Final Prophet, all humanity would be joined in worship of God, and the old religion of God, which is called Islam in Arabic. 3. The Book which this Last prophet brought was Quran and it is preserved in its pristine beauty and purity. 4. This book confirms all the previous books which came before it and respects and confirms the message of all prophets which came before it. But its basic message is same which I gave above. 5. Since the message is preserved, there is no need for any fresh prophet and whole humanity can be united irrespective of race, caste, creed, language in the worship of One True God of Universe. I. Is Islam Oldest religion? 1. The answer is Yes and No, ! 2. Prophet Mohammad is the newest and last in the chain of prophets, but he has revived the oldest religion of God, which was preached by all prophets of God thru ages.
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3. The claims that since Hinduism is the oldest , or Judaism is the oldest…. Do not count for any thing. The original message of Prophets sent to India and to prophets send to Jews was the same. 4. We should accept the Truth and argue only on the basis of truth and not on the basis of which is older and which is newer. Truth always remains the truth and false hood always remains the false hood. Age cannot change a truth into falsehood and vice versa. 5. That is why, we see that anyone, who tries sincerely to know what is true path, and studies without bias, different so called religions, finds that message of Islam contained in Quran is purest and most reasonable and most logical. That is why we see that even in this age, where every religion is made fun of, people are accepting and coming into fold of Islam. That was a brief synopsis from my side on a very lengthy topic. would like honest feedbacks from sincere readers. I
Q 297. Religion, Level field, Should there be level field? Ans. We are not forcing our religion on any one....on the other hand
it is you who force us to change our religion...and allow equal rights to these deviant sexual perverts... It is you people who are calling us names like Fundamentalists, Extremists etc... You people want to express your views and when some one wants to reply, you try to shut them up by calling him and his religion names. You do not want a level field, do you?
Q 298 Religion, Modern age, Would there have been religion…? Ans. That bit of your post..., if Computers, Aircrafts...etc were
available thousands of years ago...there would be no religions was really interesting!!! Do you mean to say that now we have those things...the religions have vanished away from the face of earth?
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Religions explain relations between us and one Creator and what is the purpose of our life on this earth... So long as humans exist on this planet, they need answers to that question....there will always be need of religion. Only the facet will change....I do not know that this increase in technology have resulted in solving the basic problems of humanity... Even in the most advanced societies...we see people suffering from mental illness, cases of suicides, murder, thefts, rapes, domestic violence and on and on.. Why cant these Computers, TV, Aircrafts, Trains, Lasers, IT etc able to solve these problems.... What is your solution to these problems? How would you remove the problem of Racism, Nationalism, Caste’s etc from the face of the world. Which Technology would tell us what is the purpose of our life on this earth?
Q 299. Religion, Name, Do we worship same God? Ans. You are right that there is no other God but only One God who is
Creator, sustainer and Cherisher of Universe and every thing in it. He is Lord and God of All Prophets including Abraham. Isaac and Jacob. He is also Lord and God of Abraham, Noah, Moses, David, Solomon, Jesus and Mohammad (Peace be on All Prophets) People of different nations and languages know the same God by many names, so we should not argue and fight each other over this. Quran says "Call on Him as Allah or Call on Him as Rahman (it is well) for to Him belong the Most beautiful names…." (17:110) Quran itself mentions more than 99 different names for God (which are mostly His attributes).
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So instead of quibbling about name, let us see what is personality and attributes hidden behind that name. We find that Arabic word Allah is free from all gender, plurality and every other bias. It was used and was in use in Arabia for Unique Creator of Universe. It was not like any idol, there was no idol or shape of Allah in any of pagan Arab temples. So Hashem or Yahweh of Jews, Elohim or Eli of Jews and Allah of Arabs are used to denote the same personality. First you should find an Arabic equivalent for Allah and only then you should ask Christian Arabs and Christian Jews to stop using this word. You laugh at Pagan Arabs saying that Allah had three daughters, while you do not laugh at Christians for saying that Jesus is Son of Most High God, and Jews believing that Israel was Son of God, Ephraim was Son of God and David was Son of God and Solomon was Son of God!! A Pot calling kettle black!!
Q 300. Religion, Name, Was there no name for religion in the age of Patriarch? Ans. If there was to be no “Name’ for religion in the age of
Patriarchs…why has it became so important in our age. Why no one can exist today without a “Name” for their religion. Why people are divided on the basis of names for their religion like Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism, Christianity and Islam? It is much better to go back to the age of Patriarchs and hold religion as a set of beliefs which are common for whole humanity. It is Islam which says that religion ors et of religious beliefs of all prophets was same, that was belief in one God, belief in His prophets and messengers, in His books and on the Last day. That was the message preached by all the prophets of past including Moses, Jesus and Mohammad. That religious beliefs called for surrendering one’s wills to the will of one’s Creator. In Arabic is it called Islam. If you say that words like Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism and Buddhism etc mean the same thing, then I have no objection to say that all these religions are one and the same thing.
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But the onus of proof is on to you.
Q 301. Religion, Oldest Religion, What is the oldest religion? Ans. Apparently you did not read my post carefully. I told you that
the names Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism etc. are man given names. God or prophets did not gave these names to their religions or their followers. These names were picked by the followers (and their books themselves confirm it). Religion of Moses was not Judaism Religion of Jesus was not Christianity Religion of Buddha was not Buddhism. Religion of old sages of India was not Hinduism. The oldest religion of all prophets was “Submitting themselves to their Creator”, in Arabic that is known as Islam. In other languages it could have been known by any other name, but it should have the same meaning. In no way, Judaism, Christianity, Buddhism, or Hinduism, mean submitting oneself to God….so they are misnomers. Search in Archeology and find out what was the religion of Moses… Jesus etc.
Q 302 Religion, Prophets, Why so many religions? Ans. I think you are getting wrong conclusion from my arguments.
1. I said that all PROPHETS of God preached one and the same religion and that religion was to submit their wills to the wills of their Creator. The name of that state in Arabic language is Islam. So all the prophets were indeed Muslims. 2. The true followers of all prophets were therefore Muslims.
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3. After the prophets left… and a time passed over them… their followers chose their own names and got divided into different religions and sects. They chose for themselves names like Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism and Buddhism etc. which the prophets did not use for their religions. 4. As I told the true followers of Moses would not call themselves Judaists or Christians, they would prefer to call themselves Muslims. 5. The present day Muslims, unfortunately also got divided them into sects and start fighting with each other. That is totally against teachings of Quran and Prophet's sayings. We should not base our arguments on actions of Muslims but on Quran and Prophet's sayings. 6. Facing a particular direction while praying in itself is not important, but this is a social requirement when praying in a congregation. The choice from Allah to select Makkah as a Universal Direction for all nations on earth is both logical and justified based on antiquity of that Mosque built by the foremost bearer of Monotheistic Faith in this world, "Friend of God" prophet Abraham, thru whom all nations of the earth were blessed.
Q 303. Religion , Sin, Is God fed up with our sins? Ans. I once again like your honest post. The idea of Jesus dieing for
sins was certainly the brain child of some of the priests. To satisfy his own logic. There is nothing in Jesus' own words to confirm it in no many words. Now the idea that God would have been fed up with our sins is a little farfetched. Because our sins have no affect on God whatsoever, they are only harmful to our own souls and persons. Humans being prone to sin must have been known to God, since He is Creator and Maker of men. As per our beliefs, human life on this earth is a sort of test. Humans have been given both the options to choose the path of good or path of evil. Every individual makes that choice every day thousands of times, when he or she does or does not do a particular action. This whole life record would be used as evidence to find out that whether he or she passed their tests on this life and would get reward or punishment.
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But our Merciful Creator has kept open a door we call as Repentance, so that humans can return to Him at whatever stage and whatever time they decide to turn back. This is the mercy of God, otherwise every human would be driven to despair and despondency on account of his or her past records and there never would be any hope. This link of Repentance is between every human and his Creator. There is no one blocking that link. These priests and people with their own philosophies would try to put themselves or some one other in that direct link so that they can achieve some worldly benefits by lording over other humans. That is the basic reason we find so many interpolations and insertions and deletions in the books of God as you referred. May be I have gone too far on that simple subject. But it was very nice to hear good words from you. Please continue with your posts.
Q 304. Religion, Co-existence, Do we worship same God? Ans. You are 100 % correct in your analysis. Instead of fighting over
names we should see the Personality and Attributes of Allah as mentioned in Quran. They match with both Jewish and Christian concept of God. The differences are minor and based on interpretations of humans and not the scripture. In any case we should be tolerant and accommodative towards each other. Thank you for a very good post.
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Q 305 Religion, Dialog Necessity, Why should we have dialogs? Ans. None of the forum is exclusive property of any Group like Jews,
Christians or Muslims....no one owns these threads. People can put any opinion on these threads., The Names are only to start a discussion, it can diverge into any topic. But we should use civil language....show respect to each other's views....don't shout any one down...and do not be dogmatic about our own views.... Christians telling Jews that they erred in Judging Jesus is OK.....same way Muslims telling Jews and Christians that they misjudged Mohammad is also OK.... Provided it is done with logic and using polite words... If we do not tell each other our views, the world would be a worse place than it is now.
Q 306. Religion, God, How can there be only one God? Ans. The dilemma which you posed that same God is responsible for
all things on this earth is not very uncommon. If we accept your reasoning, then there would have to be many gods in this Universe, otherwise: 1. How can the same god give life and then cause death? There should be a separate god who gives life and another who gives death 2. How can the same god cause rain to fall as well cause drought on the earth? So there should be a god who causes rain and one who causes draught. 3. How can the same god cause illness and then cure illness? So there should be a separate god who cause illness and one who cures us of illness. There are innumerable such examples where there are contradictory things happening in this Universe and if we go by your logic there should be endless god doing such things.
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That is indeed Hindu Philosophy which has innumerable gods, each responsible for one such actions. Now how these innumerable gods are kept under check is a problem which they have to solve. As per Monotheistic religions, It is only one God who gives life, as well as who causes death. It is same God who causes illness and then it is He who cures of illness. It is same God who sends rains as well as causes draught. It is your misconception that Allah is violent, hateful, spiteful and non tolerant etc. In Quran we have more than 99 attributes of Allah. Go thru them and we find that Allah is Most Gracious, Most Merciful, Oft Forgiving, Loving, Giver of Bounties and many such attributes. Therefore your post is based on insufficient knowledge about Islam and Allah
Q 307. Religion, Minor Deities, Do they Exist? Ans. A. God and many minor deities:
Now your later post is very interesting. You say you are a Christian Minister and still you write some thing which show that you did not study your Bible carefully. You say there is one Creator in the Universe and many minor deities. Who are these minor deities and what power they have in Universe? Who has given them these powers? The Same Creator? The fact is there is Only One Creator in this Universe and He is the Only God to be worshipped. However ignorant people in their error have started worshipping many gods in the shape of idols made of stone, wood, or gold and silver. They created for themselves many gods in the form of sun, moon and other heavenly bodies. Just by worshipping false gods, these gods or minor deities do not become reality.
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The Mission of all prophets of God was to remove these false worships and invite people to worship one True God, their Only Creator. B. Man Created in Image of God: Your inference from Bible “Let us create man in Our Image” that there exist many gods in this universe is very childish. The word “We and US” is this and other verses are Plural of Respect and not Plural of number. These terms are still used in Royal Pronouncement. Every Eastern language has these Plural of Respect. I think Christian Church also teaches that God is One as Jesus Christ himself confirms “The First thing is that Lord our God is One God and you shall worship your Lord…” When dealing with this topic, you should quote express verses that clarify things rather than quoting allegorical verses and taking refuge with such terms as “We and Us” etc.
Q 308 Religion, What is difference between Islam and Christianity? Ans. I would like to comment only on your remarks “That Iran is no
More Islamic than US is Christian” and that would suffice for most of your other remarks. There is a basic difference between Islam and Christianity and for that matter Islam and other religions. A. When the last time countries were run according to Christianity, that period, by Christians themselves , is regarded as Dark Ages. The Christian Civilization, The Christian Science and Christian Standard of living was at the bottom rung. B. On the other hand, when affairs of Muslim countries were run in accordance with Islamic laws, that period was the Golden age of Islamic Civilization. Islamic Civilization, Islamic sciences and Living standards of Muslims was on the top of the world. C. Modern Western Civilization, has grown after overthrowing rules by Church. It has taken all its laws and rules from Roman or Greek Pagan civilizations than from Bible or from Christ. Christ’s sayings per see has no authority in any so called Christian countries. So the so called Christian countries are populated by majority of people who call
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themselves Christians. But they have no place for Christ or Church or Christianity in their Worldly affairs. Religion is the personal matter of individuals and it is to be left at home, when one comes for work. D. This Western Practice of limiting religion to one’s home is not the result of any broadmindedness , it is only because they have learned their lessons in a hard way. They have seen the atrocities of Church and its leaders (when they get temporal powers ) with their own eyes. That experience has alienated Western People from all other religions, because they think that all religions must be same as Christianity and be equally oppressive or unreasonable. E. The basic problem lies in the Christianity itself. Under St. Paul, Christianity is reduced to a set of (unreasonable and illogical) beliefs. It cannot provide guidance in all walks of life. Its link with “Divine Law” (i.e. Torah) has been broken. That is why it is forced to either borrow from other systems or be at the whims of Popes and Bishops, who did so much damage to humanity when they wielded power. F. What Is aid about Christianity, is applicable to other religions. Buddhism is like Christianity, it emphasis on renouncing the world. Hinduism and Judaism have grown to be too ritualistic. If you follow them strictly, you do not get time for any other thing. G. Islam on the other hand teaches a balance between the two extremes. There is hardly any walk of life, in which Islamic teachings and guidance is not available. That is why, it is simple and easy to follow. H. Islam does not distinguish between worldly affairs and religious affairs. Both have equal importance in the eyes of Allah and both have to be followed. Islam finds a path of salvation, thru this world and not by renouncing it. I. That is why majority of Muslims like to live according to Islamic laws, without any force being applied to them. Despite Deviants like our H.E. D.D. Super Expert Zahid & C, overwhelming majority of Muslims (Men ands Women) want to live their lives according to Islam. J. Whenever any effort has been made by any ruler or king to take their countries away from Islamic laws, there has been an internal movement to bring them back into folds of Islam.
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K. Iran is one example, when Shah or Iran wanted Tehran to be like Paris of Asia, there was a revolt against him and he was overthrown. L. Same thing happened in Lebanon, where rulers wanted it to be turned into Paris of ME, there was a revival movement and people brought it back. M. Turkey is another example. ATA TURK wanted to run Turkey on Western pattern, restricting Islam to homes. Even after 80 years, and so much pressure from Secularists, there is a very strong Islamic movement in that country and they are in power at this time. N. Same can be said about Egypt, Sudan, Libya, Pakistan and every other Muslim country. Common folks want Islam and Islamic Shariah to be applied. While the rulers under Western influence try to keep Islam as a personal affairs. O. So there is a limit upto which Muslims would go on the path of Western Secularism. When the limit is crossed, the people would revolt and would bring it back. P. This is not Revival Movement for other religions, like in India, RSS and BJP are all for “Hindu Nation” and “Hindutva”, but none of them want India to run according to Hindu Scripture. They only want a cultural dominance of their religion, color or race, but not the revival of religious laws in their day to day affairs. Q. The best course for getting peace and co-existence is for West and Western minded people to change their attitude towards Islam and Muslims. There is no way they can expunge the Love of Allah, Reverence for Prophet and Abiding by Guidance of Quran from Muslim’s minds. They should compromise and make adjustments. R. If they think that people like our H.E. Super Experts Dr. Zahid & Co would gain majority in Islam and Muslim countries, they are at fault. Hypocrites have never achieved any thing in this world. I am sorry that my post became some what lengthy, but I had to express my thoughts and views.
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Q 309. Religion, Islam Oldest religion, What is it? Ans. I said that Arabic word Islam means “Submitting one self to Will
of Creator” Is there any religion that means this. Is meaning of Judaism “Submitting Your will to your Creator”? Is meaning of Christianity “Submitting Your will to your Creator”? Is meaning of Buddhism “Submitting Your will to your Creator”? Is meaning of Hinduism “Submitting Your will to your Creator”? On the other hand: Does Judaism teaches “You should not submit your will to your Creator”? Does Christianity teaches “You should not submit your will to your Creator”? Does Buddhism teaches “You should not submit your will to your Creator”? Does Hinduism teaches “You should not submit your will to your Creator”? So Islam is part of every so called man made religion names. Quran is the only scripture which gives name to its religion and gives name to its followers. Islam as the Only religion and Muslims as the only followers thru all ages.
Q 310. Religion, Israel, Is Israel name? Ans. Son of God is to be taken in metaphorical sense and not literally,
because God is not really Father of any one. It should be taken as you mentioned in the sense of closeness to God and that was the sense in which it was used in OT books.
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Israel was the title of Jacob initially, but afterwards it was used in the sense of Jewish nations also as so many places in OT books testify. You are right that all prophets of God were protectors of weak and oppressed people. None of the prophet of God was oppressor or tyrant in the land. Bible, Quran and all other scriptures try to make us a better person and try to guide us in the path of God. But we take only that portion which we like and leave the other portion which we do not like. This selective following of scripture is the real problem of our time. Thank you for your good post.
Q 311. Religion, Laws, How Laws are changed? Ans. I was mentioning the concept of how the laws and regulations
mentioned in a book of God could be changed. The laws could be changed only by prophets as revealed to them by God Almighty. Jesus was such a prophet and great reformer of Jewish laws. He had the authority to modify Moses ‘ laws. Our prophet was another with the same authority. God revealed to him another book and another set of laws that replaced the old laws and practices. These laws are universal (for all nations and races, Moses laws and Jesus teachings were only for Jewish people) and will remain in force till the last day. Our prophet was the last prophet and no new prophet will come after him, so the laws would not change till the end of world. However Jews denied and still deny the authority of Jesus and they are wrong. In the same way, both Jews and Christians denied and still deny the authority of Last prophet and both of them were and are still wrong. The God we worship is the same God, Lord of Universe, All Mighty whom Jews know as Yahweh and Christians call as Father in Heaven.
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Q 312. Religion, Accountability, Is there no life after death? Ans. What you have given is one philosophy for life that we have come here by chance, so let us make most of it. This is what is told as “Eat< Drink and Be Merry”. There is no life after death and there is no accountability.
If that was the case, then I should say that the world is based on injustice and not on justice. There are people who rob, kill and destroy hundreds of thousands of innocent people. Hitler, Stalin, POL POT and many tyrants are examples of such class. They died apparently , without getting any punishment for their heinous crimes. Even if they could have been caught, how we could have punished them for murdering so many Millions of innocent people? Or do you mean that suffering of those millions of people does not matter at all? Why a man should do good to others and leave the world a better place, if there is no accountability for his actions? Nowhere in the earth we see , responsibility without accountability. Humans have power over all other creations on this earth. Do you mean to say that this power has come without any responsibility? That is why, your attitude is very superficial and you have no proof that indeed there is no life after death and there is no accountability. It is only your wish, which you present as a philosophy. As per our religion, humans are on this earth undergoing a test. They have to give accounts of their actions to their Creator when they die. You can choose which ever way you like, there is no compulsion on your choice during the period of your test.
Q 313. Religion, Life after death, Nigerian Lottery, Is it like that? Ans. Nigerian Lottery:
Some one compared that promise of life hereafter is like Nigerian Lottery. We do not know it, because no one has returned after death. That is where the test is. If people would return after death and explain their experiences, then where will be the test? Then each
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generation would ask its own witnesses, because something that happened a few centuries back would be treated as 'myth' and 'folklore'. That is why this Universe and every thing in it is presented to as a proof for life after death. Anyone contemplating on this Universe, life forms and humans would recognize that humans are there for a purpose. BTOE on the other hand proposes that there is no higher purpose of human life. So there are two paths open before you, BTOE and God's revelation. Choose one with you full conscience and be ready to face the consequences of your choice. There is no need to ridicule the people who many any of the choices. Random Mutation: Someone said that all mutations are not deliberate…then he recognized that nothing in universe is by chance.. so it is not clear what he really meant. If evolution was thru Random Mutations, the fossils records would show 99.9999% of intermediate life forms. But the reality is different. 99.9999 % of fossil records show complete species and not intermediate life forms. So the onus to prove that BTOE is true is on those persons who propound this theory. Then the issue does not end with if there is a Creator or not. The issue is more serious than that, what would happen to us when we are dead? If nothing is going to happen then believers or rejecters of BTOE will be on the same boat, otherwise rejecters of life after death are due for a serious trouble.
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Q 314. Religion, Morality, Should state have no role in Morality? Ans. For your info I am an Indian working in Saudi Arabia, so may be the silent majority is still silent in Middle East so to say!!
Now you really cannot compel any one to follow any particular religion at all. Because following a religion comes from inside the heart. Even if by force you compel him to comply in outer forms, his heart would be rebelling all the time. That is why, choice of religion should be left to the individual and our role should only be for communicating our message in the best possible way. So that is our stand on forcing people to accept any brand of religion. However that does not mean that state has no role to play in safeguarding or enforcing moral code for its citizens. The same way they guard Law and order and Economic and Industrial relations and many other things, they should see that Most Basic laws or Morality are not broken openly by the citizens. That is the point where we have some difference with the people who call themselves liberal. As per them, state should have no role in enforcing moral codes and should leave the people to follow whatever they like. As I said, on individual basis, you cannot force a person to follow morality, but as a group , state should insure that basic laws of morality are not broken down. Some people call it Moral policing, but in reality you cannot police Morals. Morals originate inside the heart, which only God knows, what we want is that temptations are not placed in the path of average citizens or the temptations are kept to minimum. Have a nice day too AG.
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Q 315. Religion, Science Progress, Does Religion stops science? Ans. Religion does not put any stop on the study of science or
excellence in technology or the progress of human civilization. Real purpose of religions is to explain the purpose of our life and how we should deal with each other and with our Creator. You can have peace and tranquility only when you are at peace with your own Creator and with nature. Those who deny Creator and want to live life without a purpose are the one who are troubled souls. They try to get some temporary peace in Music, dance and drinking. They get temporary peace but there is always a hangover and they are more unhappy when the effect wears off. However if some one is so dogmatic that he stops or prevents study of science and technology (as Church did during dark and medieval ages), then that type of restriction is bad. If I am not wrong, in none of the Eastern civilizations, there was a conflict between religion and science. I know this about Hindu, Buddhist and Islamic religions. There was never conflict between science and religion in these civilizations. But white race by its very nature is extremist. They go to extreme in every thing. When they went for religion, they went to extreme, now they are going to extreme in rejecting the religion. The best path is the middle path, shown by Islam.
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Chapter-10 (Terrorism, 9/11, Afghan and Iraq War Etc) Q 316. 9/11, Al Qaeda, Did it do it alone? Ans. For your info I am an Indian working in Saudi Arabia, so many
of your accusations do not apply to me. You leave Iran and let them solve their internal problems. Has not Iraq and Afghanistan (And Vietnam) gave you sufficient lessons, so as not to interfere into other’s affairs. Thing in west concerning Islam and Muslims are generally biased and truth is mixed with the falsehood. Gullible western readers (Your self included) drink in every think like Milk, without knowing the poison mixed with the milk. That is why majority of you believed that Iraq had WMD, Had Nuclear Capability and other charges which were laid against them. It is highly surprising if I hear from you (Like an article of faith) that Al Qaeda did 9/11 alone without any inside help. You are welcome to live in your world of Bigotry and half truths.
Q 317. 9/11, Responsibility , Who Did it? Ans. First of all, Al Qaeda does not represent whole 1500 Million
Muslims. It would not make any difference to Muslims nations as a whole if the perpetrators of 9/11 were Muslims or not. The reason we do not accept the Western Theory about 9/11, is that the case has not been investigated in depth and with care that it demanded. Media was very quick to name the culprits and State was very ready to act on that advise. The real people behind 9/11 attacks are still not known. Any operation of this size must have ground conspirators, and no effort
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was made to trace them. Since all so called hijackers died with planes, so there is no need to investigate who were the ground conspirators, says the Western Media and Western logic. But they went and attacked Afghanistan and then Iraq to take revenge for that attacks. And these wars were fought without first proving the guilt of Al Qaeda and / or Taliban. And the main culprit (Osama) is still at large!!! What was then the purpose of Afghan and Iraq War? This all proves of a conspiracy, inside job and cover up. And gullible population of US laps it all up, without raising and asking these basic questions. What else can you expect from such people who re-elected GWB and Dick Cheney, instead of sending them to prison for wasting National Resources, telling ties to nation and causing hundred of thousands of innocent lives. They say, Bias and prejudice makes you blind, what better proof than America's response to 9/11!!
Q 318. 9/11, Responsible, Who was responsible? Ans. Your post is filled with name calling and not connected with the
real issues I had raised in my post. For your info I am an Indian working in Saudi Arabia, so most of your crap does not concern me. Saudis and for that matter any nationalities are not angels, there are people of every sort amongst them. Those who do wrong are wrong, irrespective of they are Saudis or not. Quran thumpers are not in the same league as Bible thumpers, there is a basic difference between them. Bible is not Word of God from cover to cover, whereas Quran is Word of God from beginning to end. It is instruction from God for mankind.
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Re 9/11, the incident is yet to be investigated in full detail and the real culprits are yet to be caught. Who were the real planners of 9/11 attacks is yet to be found out. There were 10 or 15 Saudis in those four planes as there were hundreds of US , UK, Jews and other nationalities. Whether the planes were really hijacked is still to be proven. What people saw with their eyes was two planes hitting WTC, the rest was the media story which has brainwashed gullible American people. How gullible are American people was proven when they re-elected GWB and Dick Cheney. The couple that needed to be tried for war crimes were rewarded with re-election!!
Q 319. Al Qaeda, 9/11, Did Flight attendant made calls? Ans. A. Iranian President:
There have been many presidents in Iran since 1979. Some which you call hardliners and some which you called Moderate, but the Iran policy has not changed much. It is the same with USA, no matter which Presidents occupy White House, he has to be Fully Committed to the safety security and Integrity of Israel. US would itself suffer any loss, even risk its own security, but would see to it that Israel remains safe. It is some sort of Weird Love with USA has for Israel!!! Or is it they have no choice, they are forced to follow that course by the powerful Jewish and Zionist Media in USA. I have full sympathy with common US citizen, who is paying such a heavy price to prop up a Terrorist and racial state. May be their ends would come together. B. 9/11 and Al Qaeda It was very amusing to hear that Flight attendants of AA Flight 11 called and reported Hijacking!!!
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Did they called CNN and NBC and ABC also, before phoning to CIA and FBI. Because these media channels started repeating within 5 minutes that Al Qaeda was responsible for that attack. Was it a lucky guess or Sixth Sense or Direct Revelation from God Almighty? How gullible is US common citizen and common man, is self evident from this post. They would lap up any thing they hear on US Media as Absolute Truth and without any basic questions. No doubt they believed that Iraq had WMD, Nuclear Capability, Missile System, was Cohort with Al Qaeda and many lies which they heard from CNN and White House. May be such gullible result perpetual presidents like GWB and Dick Cheney and Terrorists like them. They fail to realize that so called Al Qaeda tapes accepting responsibility for 9/11 came after two years of US attack on Afghanistan. By that time, no one knows who is alive and who is dead from Al Qaeda.
Q 320. Al Qaeda, Beliefs, What are beliefs of Al Qaeda? Ans. Truly speaking I do not know what the beliefs of Al Qaeda are. I
never heard the name Al Qaeda except when it was made a every home name by Western Media in the aftermath of 9/11 attacks. So you have to educate me about what are the beliefs of Al Qaeda really are. In the same way I do not know what do you mean by Islamists and their beliefs. If you tell me about beliefs of any Islamic group, I will comment on those. I am a Muslim from India and working in Saudi Arabia. I only defend Islamic teachings and their implementation in very walk of life. Contrary to your information, Islamic teachings are very moderate and practical and adopted to normal human nature. However if human nature is distorted then Islamic teachings would look a bit harsh. For example theft, murder and adultery and fornication are the things which are harmful for any society and should be curtailed. Islam does not allow these crimes to be committed in its lands and has harsh punishment for criminals. Normal law abiding citizens would have
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nothing to worry from these punishments because they are not for them. If you are a Criminal, then definitely you will worry about these punishments and say they are harsh, so it is a matter of outlook really. Islamic Criminal Justice system is much superior in reducing the crime rate in the society than its western counter part. Islamic punishments are neither sadistic nor Barbaric. If you see in the whole context of Islamic way of living. If you see each and every act as an island then may be you could draw that conclusion. Then there is no term like Theocracy in Islam, Islam does not distinguish between Worldly affair and religious affairs. There is no separation between the two spheres, both of them are equally under the control of Islam. The western concept of theocracy is foreign to Islam. Regarding Systems being followed in Saudi Arabia and Iran, you know it is not fully Islamic system. There are many fields which are not as per Islamic teachings (Political and Economic system for example). I only support actions which are according to Islamic system and do not support which are against it. It was not in good taste to compare Islamic systems with cults like KKK and Neo Nazis who are based on racial hatred and against humanity.
Q 321. Iraq War, Innocent Killings, What are repercussion ? Ans. The fact remains, if you do wrong act, you will have to face its
repercussions, sooner or later. US has caused a lot of misery to Iraq and its population and is continuing to do in Afghanistan. How many innocent Iraqis have been killed or tortured just because of suspicion, only God knows. Now when one of US soldier goes mad and kill five of his own....we see so much sympathy poured on him and his victims.
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If he had done the same thing with Iraqi people, he might have been diagnosed as "Mentally Over stressed" given some jail term and released on parole silently with no one knowing. Now with American Blood on his hands, he would probably face death penalty. So the punishment is according to what type of blood you shed. Is American Blood different than Iraqi or Afghan Blood?
Q 322 Iraq War, Justification, Was it justified? Ans. It is your empty wish against the Iranian women….the time
would decide on which directions he would go. Actions against Saddam was not taken because he gassed his people, it was taken only because he had WMD and was a threat to USA… you might not like GWB and his actions….but that did not prevent majority of US voters to reelect him for a second term…. That shows your and US voter’s immaturity and gullibility… Taliban had no hands to play in 9/11. They had right to rule their nations, the way your Terrorist GWB and Dick Cheney had to run their own country…. If you call Taliban terrorist then Your President was a bigger terrorist by any standard… I do not hate White People or Jews in general. I am only against those Whites and Those Jews and Those Blacks and Those Yellows who wrong us. Our religion stops us from hating any group in General. Whites and Jews who are more racial than us. So Bigotry and Half Truths is your Specialty and not ours. It is the
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Q 323. Islam, Label, Why only Muslims are labeled? Ans. I do not say that you told that only Muslims are Terrorists. I
was telling that in Media you only listen the term Muslim and Islamic Terrorist. No one uses the term Hindu Terrorists, or Buddhist Terrorists or Jewish Terrorists and Christian Terrorists. So in practice you reserve the Title Terrorists for only Islam and Muslims. I did nor say that removal of Israel would remove all Terrorism from the face of earth. I said that it would reduce it by 90 %. And that between Western Powers and Muslims and that is what it matters to you. If this so called War on Terror only increased in spread of Terrorism, why not try the alternate solution? You said all Terrorists should attack Israel another Terrorist state, you cannot fight Terrorism with another type of Terrorism. And that is the basic problem with this so called War on Terror. They want to use Terrorism to cure what they called Terrorism, and they failed.
Q 324. Islam, Muslim, Why we see only Muslims as Terrorists? Ans.. Terrorism and war on Terror are the two sides of the same
coin. If the Reason of this War on Terror was the eradication of Terrorism from the world, then it would have started from the Root cause of all Terrorism, the illegitimate state of Israel in Palestine. In the existing condition, it is fight against one group of people and that is why it is not solving the menace of Terrorism from the world, but in fact increasing it. Eight years is not a small period to judge the effectiveness of any solution and it has been seen that this War on Terror is a total failure. You ask why so many Terrorists are under Muslim name, I say it is because of your definition of Terror and Terrorism, In your definition, one has to be Muslim to be branded as a Terrorist. Similar or More stringent actions by other groups are not branded as Terrorist. In your definition there is no Jewish Terrorists (Zionists), there is no Christian Terrorists (IRA, ETA and hundred of others), No Hindu Terrorists (LTTE and RSS).
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Then there is nothing strange, if you do not see any other Terrorist but Muslim Terrorists. Believe me, removal of Israel, will reduce this so called Terrorism by more than 90 %. Will it not be better than this War on Terror which has only helped in increasing the threat of Terrorism?
Q 325 Islam, Violence, Should we criticize Islam or Muslims? Ans. How can I condemn Islam, when it is totally against shedding of
innocent Blood? In Islam it is the one of the big of The Biggest Sins to kill any innocent person. So I do not condemn Islam but I do condemn any Muslim who sheds innocent blood in clear violation of Islamic teachings. So instead of criticizing Islam, if you people would also start criticizing Muslims, those who kill innocent people, there will be much progress in this so called war on terror. You should ask Muslims to do what Islam wants from them, force them to implement Islamic laws and then you will see real peace dawn on this world. But you people open your front against Islam itself, that is why all your efforts go to waste without solving any problem. In fact your criticisms of Islam add fuel to fire and help spread Extremism and violence in Muslim countries.
Q 326 Violence, Killing Innocents, Terrorist or Freedom Fighters? Ans. I think we have already discussed this matter in fair detail. The
situation is like this, we have to have a clear cut definition about such activities and apply it equally on every one. So long as we have double standards and try to define any thing so as to be applicable to others and leave us, it is not going to work. If you look thru history, every freedom movement starts as a sort of terrorism (in the eyes of those who are in power at that time). If it is successful, its leaders become freedom fighters, otherwise they end up as terrorists.
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First generation of Israeli leaders were all branded as Terrorists by British Media, till they were successful in forming the state of Israel, and now they are revered freedom fighters. The same goes for even first generations of American Freedom Fighters who were branded as bandits and terrorists by then British Empire. So the Title of Terrorist in itself does not mean any thing. Now comes the killing of innocent men and women and children. That is not allowed at any time and it is a crime which should be punished. Irrespective whether it is done by Army, Police or any group. This respect of innocent blood should be irrespective of our differences of race, religion or ethnic back ground. And this is the area which is most lacking in our attitudes. We try to be partial in these things. The solution with Israel and talking is like some one who has driven you out of your home and has occupied it. When you protest, he says let us come and discuss and solve this problem peacefully. Every one knows what he means by these so called reconciliation talks, and what would come out of it. I know about so called peace talks between India and Pakistan to solve this problem of Kashmir. There have been literally thousands of sittings and the progress has not moved one bit. The peace talks are only successful, when both parties are of equal force and have fear from each other. I do not know how any meaningful solution can be obtained thru talks between Israel and Palestinians.
Q 327 War, Afghanistan, What is real purpose of war? Ans. Well the way you implicated Saudi Arabia, Yemen and Morocco
with 9/11, it became apparent that you wanted the same treatment for them as was due for Iraq. World (by that I mean the majority of world population) may not be against Islam, but the majority of world media is certainly against islam and it is they who are systematically spreading the hatred against Islam and Muslims.
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Most rulers of Muslim countries are under the control and influence of western governments and that is why they have a opposite attitude on most issues from common people. If you say that we are feeding into the minds of our young, how evil West is , you are also guilty of the same crime by polluting minds of your young children against Islam and Muslim. The war in Afghanistan has nothing to do with 9/11 or spread of Terrorism. It is a conspiracy to control Afghanistan and Pakistan , and some how or the other get control on the Nuclear Armaments of Pakistan. The things are moving in that direction surely but slowly. The victim thinks that your forces are there to help him fight against Terrorism, but the is unable to guess the real reasons of your presence there.
Q 328. War, Afghanistan, What are the real aims? Ans. Well the way you implicated Saudi Arabia, Yemen and Morocco
with 9/11, it became apparent that you wanted the same treatment for them as was due for Iraq. World (by that I mean the majority of world population) may not be against Islam, but the majority of world media is certainly against islam and it is they who are systematically spreading the hatred against Islam and Muslims. Most rulers of Muslim countries are under the control and influence of western governments and that is why they have a opposite attitude on most issues from common people. If you say that we are feeding into the minds of our young, how evil West is , you are also guilty of the same crime by polluting minds of your young children against Islam and Muslim. The war in Afghanistan has nothing to do with 9/11 or spread of Terrorism. It is a conspiracy to control Afghanistan and Pakistan , and some how or the other get control on the Nuclear Armaments of Pakistan. The things are moving in that direction surely but slowly. The victim thinks that your forces are there to help him fight against Terrorism, but the is unable to guess the real reasons of your presence there.
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Q 329. War, Terror Factories, Have US and NATO destroyed Terror Factories? Ans. You are right Taliban did not exist during Soviet Occupation, but
their earlier form i.e. Afghan Mujahideen were every much there. In your eyes what is the difference between Taliban and Mujahideen? They are equally terrorist in your eyes, so why split hair? Whatever role Osama might have played then, he was in good books of CIA and was being trained and used by them in Afghanistan. It is very heartening to know that US and NATO Disrupted "Taliban and Al Qaeda Terrorist Factory" in Afghanistan eight years ago. Then please tell me, Are the cases and frequencies of Terrorist acts and number of Terrorists in world have increased or decreased in last 8 years? Are US and NATO forces safe and sound in Afghanistan? captured the "Masterminds" of 9/11 attacks? Have they
To me it seems like a blotched operation….same as any other US and NATO sponsored operation. I know US and NATO are raising the bogey of Pak Nukes falling into the hands of Taliban and Al Qaeda…. The ground is being prepared for Pakistan to hand over the safe keeping of their Nukes to "Reliable and Safe hands" of US and NATO forces!!! It is clear for people who have foresight…al least the madness of attacking Afghanistan and fighting there for 8 years is making some sense. Alas it is Pakistani Politicians who are unaware of the danger and are taking helps from those, who are at the back of all this.
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Q 330 War on Terror, Afghanistan, Way out? Ans. You invaded Iraq on the pretext that it had linked with Al Qaeda.
Now do you want to invade Saudi Arabia, Yemen and Morocco on that same pretext? Was Iraq experience not enough or once you have tasted blood you want more? US and NATO forces have much more innocent blood on their hand than those people abroad hijacked. Your GWB the Great is the Biggest Terrorist of our time. No doubt he was declared Worst US President of all times (it shows the conscience of most people in US is not dead yet). Islamic dictatorships are very good to you so long as they toe your own line, but they moment they do not follow your line they become the curse on the land. Was Shah of Iran not a Dictator? He was bosom friend of West? Anwar Saadat and Husni Mubarak were dictators or not? Was not Parvez Musharraf of Pakistan a Dictator? But all these dictators were your friends because they followed your line. HAMAS elected by Majority vote is not acceptable to you, so were the Islamic front of Algeria. In the end it is not the question of Democracy or Dictatorship, it is who follows you like a dog, saying yes to your every whim and fancy. Those who speak truth and do not follow your line, you brand them as Extremists and Terrorists. The increase in number of so called extremists and Terrorists mean that more and more people are against your theories and practices. The more time you spent in Afghanistan will mean more to these so called Extremists and Terrorists. Despite you ever increasing Body Bag count, you will not achieve any thing in Afghanistan and would have to return empty handed with eggs on your faces. This is the lesson of history from Afghanistan, Britain and Russia have testified to it. Now it is the turn of US and its poor NATO allies to testify the same. Be the Guest of Taliban and Al Qaeda in Afghanistan and stay at your will for how long you wish!!
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Q 331. War on Terror, Afghanistan, For How Long? Ans. Once you have formed a wrong diagnosis you will continue to
argue on it till eternity. Who were the real conspirators or plotters of 9/11 is still shrouded in secrecy. That is why not a single person has been convicted in any court of law for planning and executing 9/11. Whatever convictions we have they are for very minor links. If US and NATO despite 8 years of warfare are not able to catch even one big Fish of Al Qaeda and Taliban, it speak very poor of their military strength and their tactics. If you have removed Taliban and Al Qaeda from Afghanistan so there are no more training camps there for last eight years. Are the number of terrorists and terrorists attacks in the world increasing or decreasing? Every day you claim to have killed so many and so many hundreds of trained Al Qaeda and Taliban trained terrorists. How come their numbers are never decreasing and always increasing. With your false logic you propose to be present in Afghanistan and continue with your repression and killings of innocent men, women and children, which you shrug off as collateral damages saying that people do die in wars. The same logic was used in Vietnam with disastrous effects, the logic was if we leave Vietnam, we will be overwhelmed with Communists. How real was the threat is known to every one now. The thing is that there are people with vested interests, who do not want to see peace prevail in the world. They would advocate wars on one pretext or other. It seems you also belong to the same category. The threats could be real or imaginary but they are overblown and shown as if foundation of western Civilization is in the hands of Al Qaeda and Taliban and unless we finish our mission of killing every one of them we are not safe. How much innocent human blood has been shed in the name of Security of Nations, in the name of saving our culture and all such non definable criterion only God knows.
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Sp you are welcome to remain in Afghanistan for as long as you wish and continue to play havoc with the human lives there. But you should also heed to advice of your Military Generals who say that this was cannot be won Militarily. May be you know more about Wars and Winning Wars than those Generals.
Q 332. War on Terror, Afghanistan, Was it a just war? Ans. If your version was clean and without any doubt and you would
have analyzed all possibilities and then would have come on Judicial Conclusion that 9/11 was planned and executed by Al Qaeda alone without any conspirators or support from inside, then you would have to ridicule our conspiracy theory. But what we have seen that media decided within 5 minutes of 2nd Plane hitting WTC that Al Qaeda did it and then despite 8 years of Afghan War and US arresting so many Top Al Qaeda and Taliban leaders in GITMO, not even one conviction could be obtained from court it says that something is fishy. There are many loop holes in the official version, some of which I have pointed out and there are many more for which there is no logical explanation, except saying that they just happened. Whatever might be Afghanistan and whatever might be going on there, it is there internal matter and US and no other country has any say in that. British tried it during their Indian Empire days and failed, Russians tried in during 1979-89 and they failed utterly. During those days US was more than anxious to help those fighters who were fighting to free Afghanistan from foreign armies. Now the tables have turned and now US is trying to establish a responsible government there by the help of its allies. The same thing they tried in Iraq and failed. You cannot establish a working government or take the local population in your confidence by daily bombing on their villages on slightest assumptions that there could be hidden Taliban fighters there.
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The same "Shoot First Apologize Later" philosophy was used by Britain, Russia and even US in Vietnam and Iraq and now in Afghanistan. It has not worked and it will not work. Innocent blood is innocent and is same for US and Afghanis and all other nationals. If it was crime for Al Qaeda and Taliban to shed innocent US blood then it is equally heinous crime for US to shed innocent Iraqi and Afghan blood. The best option for US and NATO is to leave that Barron Land of Central Asia to their fate and get out as soon as they can pack and load their planes and Transport ships.
Q 333. War on Terror, Islam, Why this war does not solve Terrorism? Ans. I am not accusing you of calling only Muslim as Terrorists. But
in Word media only the word Muslim Terrorist is used. I never heard the phrase, Hindu Terrorists, Buddhist Terrorists, Jewish Terrorists and Christian Terrorists, why use only Islam and Muslim names with Terrorists. So there is some problem in their minds. I did not say that all Terrorism will stop after removal of Israel, I said 90 % and most of that will be between US and European and Muslims. That is what you are interested in any way. There will always remain some sort of Terrorism in some part of the world as we have crimes and murders and cheating. Terrorism starts when the due rights to a large population are denied on some pretext or other by those with vested interest. When silent protests are ignored, it turns towards violent activities. If authorities took immediate action to redress these genuine grievances of the population, there can be no support for terrorism in the masses. It would only be a criminal r gangster type activity, which can be dealt with force. But when it gets popular support, then you can not do it down with force. Moreover when you equate it with a religion. Like Islamic or Muslim Terrorist.
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I do not blindly support Al Qaeda or Taliban. I only say, you prove their guilt in International Court and take action against them after they are proven guilty. This War of Terror sort of things are based on assumptions and propaganda rather than proofs and conviction thru judicial system. One man punished thru judicial system has more effect that 100 killed by your air strikes and missiles. But every one wants simple solution. And that is one reason this Terrorism is on the rise. who are in Power are The Biggest Terrorists of All. Because those
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Alphabetical Question Index Question
9/11, Al Qaeda, Did it do it alone? 9/11, Responsibility, Who Did it? 9/11, Responsible, Who was responsible? Al Qaeda, 9/11, Did Flight attendant made calls? Al Qaeda, Beliefs, What are beliefs of Al Qaeda? Allah, Baal, Is Allah derived from Baal? Allah, Bible, Did Muslims put Allah in Bible? Allah, Forgetting, Does Allah Forgets? Allah, Pagan god, Did Makkan had idol of Allah in Kaaba? Arabs, Backward, Are only Arabs and Muslims Backward? Arabs, Backward, Are only Arabs and Muslims Backward? Belief, Own Experience, Do we only believe in what we see or know Beliefs, Allah, Fundamentals of Faith Beliefs, Fundamentalism, Is every form of fundamentalism bad? Beliefs, Fundamentalism, Is every form of fundamentalism bad? Beliefs, Fundamentalism. Is every form of fundamentalism bad? Bible Abrogation, Did Moses modify some of its laws? Bible Authenticity, How are we sure? Bible, Age, Is Bible established for hundreds of thousands of years? Bible, Authenticity, Did God spoke to other people? Bible, Change, Do laws change in Bible? Bible, Compatibility, Can one believe in both? Bible, God head, Does Bible says God became man? Bible, Hate, Do Muslims hate Bible? Bible, Inspiration, Is Bible Inspired by God? Bible, Lucifer, Had he any say in Bible?
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Bible, OT Laws, Can they never be abrogated? Bible, Other religions, Do other religions base their laws on Bible? Bible, Unity of God, Does Bible say, God is One? Bible, Writers, Revelation, Did Bible Writers receive Revelation? Biblical Prophesies, Reliability, How Reliable they are? BTOE, Predictable Combination, Is it Sin to be ignorant? BTOE, Probability, What the theory says? BTOE, Self-Replicator, How could it come? Chance, Probability, What is probability for a deck of card to arrange itself in order? Christian, Definition, Who is True Christian? Co-existence, Jews and Christians, Did Islam came to replace Judaism and Christianity? Comforter, Holy Spirit, Was Comforter Holy Spirit? Common Sense, Creator, What is Common Sense and what is not? Conversion Stories, Why Post them? Creator , How would I react if I was God? Creator , Is science against religion? Creator , Why Quran does not give scientific proofs? Creator Doubts, Some Doubts abut Creator Creator Evidence, Fruit Kingdom? Creator Existence, Are scientists against Creator? Creator Existence, Looking in the Mirror Test Creator Proof, Did you ever look at sky? Creator Proof, How to know Him? Creator Proof, Look at Flowers Creator Proof, Look at Milk Creator, Creation, Why Creator is not part of his Creation?
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Creator, Creations, Do same rules apply to both? Creator, Crutches, Do believers need crutches? Creator, Dualism, Does God permit rape, murder etc? Creator, Endless Universe, Anything to stick to! Creator, Nails and Hairs, What revealed books have to say on these? Crime, Punishment, Islamic Criminal System and safeguards Criminal Justice, Crime rate, Why Crime rates are low in Islamic societies? Criminal Justice, Flogging, Could we have a flog free society? Criminal Justice, Is Flogging Barbaric? Dark Ages, Present time, Are we living in Dark Ages? Darwin, Relation, Is Modern TOE same as Darwin? Death, Jesus, Did Jesus freed us from death? Dialogue Limits, What are the limits? Dimmi, Second class citizen, Are they really? Earth, Human Population, Are humans infesting this planet? Evolution , Creator, Some points to ponder Evolution Justification, Limits, What are limits of TOE? Evolution Proof, Does Quran support TOE? Evolution, Why most concepts are absurd? Exploitation, US, How US common folks are exploited? Faith Question, Are Muslims allowed to question their faith? Fire Arm Control, Should it be? Fossil, Miracle, Is every fossil a Miracle Free Mixing, Are Western people immune to women’s charms? Freedom Struggle, Terrorism, Are they same? Fundamentalism, Good or Bad, Is Fundamentalism always bad?
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God , Trinity, Is God Uni-Plural? God Name, Misc. Questions God, Actions, Can we judge God? God, Creation, Did God created evolution? God, Fool Proof Evidence?, What is the reality? God, Love Did God really loved Humans? God, Why Atheists react to the word God? Growth, Leaving, Are Muslims leaving Islam? Guidance , Divine, Is it necessary? Gun Control, Is gun control against freedom? Hate, India, Is there racism in India? Hindu , RSS Ideology, What it is? Hindu Dharma, Hinduism, What is Hindu Dharma? Hindu Dharma, Truth, What is Dharma? Hindu Muslim Relations, Are Hindu Racist? Hindu Muslim Relations, Root cause of Hindu Muslim rift in India? Hindu Religion, Oldest, Are Vedas preserved properly? Hindu Unity, Is RSS uniting Hindus? Hindu, Caste Reformation, Is it possible to remove caste from Hinduism? Hindu, Muslim Rule, Did Muslims persecuted Hindus? Hindu, RSS, How can India progress? Hindu, Sanatan Dharma, Is Sanatan Dhrama same as Hinduism? Hindu, SC , ST , Is Reservation policy OK? Hinduism , Dialog, Vedas and Gita, What are authorities of each scripture? Hinduism, Gods, Many, What is Hindu Philosophy? Homo , Normal Behavior, What is Normal behavior? Homo Birth Control, Nature, Is Homo Birth control?
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Homo Numbers, Increase, What is truth Homo Rights, Justification , Why Homo is harmful for the society? Homo, Birth Control, Is this enough? Homo, Existence, All societies, Are they Normal? Homo, IMA justifies it?, Is it perversion? Homo, Justification, Is it justified? Homo, Justification, Is it Normal? Homo, Minority, Why should it be suppressed? Homo, Perversion, Other types, What is the difference? Homo, Perversion, Should it be treated at par? Homo, Religion, Opposition, Why every religion is against it? Homo, Religion, Other religion, Are all religions against Homo? Homo, Society, Encouragement, Should it encourage it? Homosexuality, Issues, Issues, Do such marriages have fruits? Human Body, Defects, IS Human body defective? Humans, Apes, Did we evolve from Apes? ID Movement, Creator, Difference between Creator and ID Designer ID Movement, Creator, Is ID and God are same? India , NRI s, Criticising India, Should NRI s criticize India Blindly? India, Circumcision, Are Indian circumcised? India, Hygiene, Is bathing in Ganges Unhygienic? Indians, Are Indians responsible for Economic Slowdown? Iran, Bias, Is Media Biased? Iran, Unrest, Is it Democratic? Iraq War, Innocent Killings, What are repercussion ? Iraq War, Justification, Was it justified?
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Islam, God, Do we worship same God? Islam, Label, Why only Muslims are labeled? Islam, Muslim, Why we see only Muslims as Terrorists? Islam, Violence, Should we criticize Islam or Muslims? Israel , Golda Meir, Was she same as Hitler? Israel , Wipe out Israel, What does it mean? Israel Biblical, Present Israel, Are these same? Israel Creation, History, Does History starts after 1948? Israel Creation, Justification, Is Israel like USA? Israel Destruction, Can Israel be destroyed by one Man? Israel Existence, Are Oppression, Tyranny and Injustice needed for survival of nations? Israel Existence, Is Israel indestructible? Israel Existence, Justification, Did Muslims persecuted Jews? Israel Extremism, Extremist Jewish point of view Israel Justification, Parallel between Israel and America? Israel Justification, US Example, Does it fit? Israel Nation, Is Israel an efficient nation? Israel Power, Is Israel invincible? Israel Survival, Is Israel strong enough to survive? Israel, Peace Terms, How should peace prevail? Israel, Baghdad, Did Jews were 33 % in Baghdad? Israel, Nuclear Bomb, Is Israel’s Nuclear Bomb the solution? Israel, Palestine , Violence , Who is to be blamed? Israel, Palestine, Why Muslim states did not settle Palestinians Refugees:? Israel, Palestine, Did Jews bought the land? Israel, Palestine, Jihad, Why Jihad?
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Israel, Palestine, Justice, Do Muslims hate Jews? Israel, Palestine, Justice, What should be limits? Israel, Palestine, Killing Innocents, Is it only one sided? Israel, Palestine, Ottoman Empire , Who ruled Palestine? Israel, Palestine, Palestine is for Palestinians? Israel, Palestine, Refugee Issue, Back to 1948? Israel, Palestine, Solution, Is West Bank and Gaza the full solution? Israel, Palestine, Solution, What it should be ? Israel, Palestine, Ukraine, Can Russia have claim over Ukraine? Israel, Palestinians, Refugees, Why cant muslim nations settle them? Israel, Terrorism , What are acts of terrorism? Israel, True Israel, What is True Israel? Israel, UNO Justification, Did UNO had right to partition Palestine in 1948? Israel, West Support, Why west uses double standards? Israel, West, Double Standard, Why west uses Double Standard? Israel. Palestine, What are the two positions? Jesus, Church , Did Jesus established a separate Church? Jesus, Divinity, Proving from OT? Jesus, God, Is Jesus God? Jesus, Mission, Was Jesus Reformer of Torah? Jesus, OT and NT, Did Jesus preached NT? Jesus, Proof that Jesus existed? Jesus, Resurrection, Did Resurrected Jesus existed? Jesus, Resurrection, Did Resurrected Jesus existed? Jesus, Resurrection, Was Jesus Crucified? Jesus, Ritual law, What is Ritual Law? Jews , Bias, Limits, How we should Treat Jews?
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Jews , Message, Why Christians do not follow Sabbath? Jews , Rule, What does History say about it? Jews, Antiquity, Are Jews oldest? Jews, Character, What is true Israel Jews, Chosen People, Are Jews Chosen forever? Jews, Christian, Cat’s Paw, How are Jews using Christians Jews, Criticism, Do they deserve it? Jews, Dialog, Some pointers Jews, Dialog, Some pointers Jews, Dimmi, Should Jews live as Dimmi? Jews, History , What is History of Jews presence in Palestine Jews, Holocaust, How true it was? Jews, Jesus Mission of Jesus and Paul? Jews, Land, Is God Partial to any people? Jews, Messianic, Why are they persecuted? Jews, Propagation, What if Jews do not propagate? Jews, Quran, Does Quran say that God gave Palestine to Jews? Jews, Survival, Are Jews fighting for Survival? Jews, Treatment, Does Allah treats people differently? Jews, Treatment, How Muslims treated Jews? Jews, USA, Do Jews run USA? Jihad, Justification, Should Jihad stop? Judaism, Allah, Do Muslims and Jews worship same God? Judaism, Bible, Is word Judaism present in Bible? Judaism, Jesus, Can Jews believe Jesus is son of god? Kaaba, Muslims, Kaaba or Jerusalem?
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KSA, Iran, Israeli planes to fly over KSA? Laws, Change with time, Does Allah allow for changes in society with time? Laws, Flexibility, How flexible are Islamic laws? LIFE, What is life? Males, Lost case, When males are lost case? Modernization, Limits, What are limits of Modernization? Moral Values, Decay, Why Civilizations crumble? Moral Values, Decay, Why Civilizations crumble? Morality, Source, What is real source of Morality? Muslim Trademark, What is Muslim’s trademark? Muslim, Jews, So called Muslim atrocities Against Jews: Muslim, Salvation, Is there a short cut in Islam? Muslims Faith, Why Stick to Islam? Muslims, Shariah, Are bulk of Muslims against Shariah? Muslims, Social Interactions, Can a Muslim be asocial? Mutation, Random, Are Mutations Random? Mutation, Random, Are mutations Random? Name of Days, Pagan, Are names of week days pagan? Nations, Survival, Do nations survive only on Military strength? Non Muslims, Second Class citizens, Islam and Non Muslims Nuns, Dress Code, Has it changed? Orientalists, Method, What method they choose? Other faith, Relationship, What is stand between Islam and other religions? Other faiths, Tolerance, What Islam teaches? Other religion, Evolution, How Is Islam most evolved religion? Other religion, Evolution, Is Islam most evolved religion? Other Word, Laws, Do we know the laws of that world?
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Palestine Culture, Was there culture? Palestine, Arab Lands, Were Jews driven from Arab Lands? Palestine, Dialog, Why do not solve the problem thru dialog? Palestine, Enemies, Can Israel finish them once for all? Paul Authority, What is Paul’s authority? Paul, Who has authority? Politics, Criminals, Do they only belong to one party? Politics, GWB, Should he get a second term? Population, Control , What should be done? Prophet Hood, Why we accept him? Prophet hood, False Claimants , Do they negate claims of True Prophet? Prophet Hood, Why we accept him? Prophet, Does our prophet needs praise? Prophet, Marriage with Aiyesha Prophet, Orientalists , How they damage the Character of Prophet? Prophet, Test, Are Prophesies test for a True Prophet? Prophet, Wishful thinking, What if, there was no Mohammad? Qibla, Jerusalem, Why Muslims do not face Jerusalem during prayers? Quran , Beauty, Surah KAUTHAR Quran , Contradiction, Does Quran contradicts itself? Quran, Arabic, Can Quran be understood only in Arabic ? Quran, Challenge, What Arab Christians say? Quran, Challenge, What IF some one meets it? Quran, Concoction, Did Prophet made it up? Quran, Contradictions, Are their contradictions in Quran? Quran, Eloquence, Can it be compared with English poetry?
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Quran, Eloquence, Some pointers Quran, Eloquence, Why it is unique? Quran, Satan, Did Satan wrote Quran? Racism, Indians, Do they take regular baths? Random Mutation, Human and Ape Brains, How both evolved from same ancestors? Random Mutation, Pack of Cards, Is it a correct example? Random Truth, Are Mutations really random? Religion , Sin, Is God fed up with our sins? Religion, Accountability, Is there no life after death? Religion, Co-existence, Common ground Religion, Co-existence, Do we worship same God? Religion, Co-existence, Who fights in the name of religion? Religion, Crimes, Should we Tempt Criminals? Religion, Dialog Necessity, Why should we have dialogs? Religion, Evolution, Do religions really evolve? Religion, God, How can there be only one God? Religion, Heaven / Hell, Do we really know about it? Religion, Islam Oldest religion, What is it? Religion, Islam, Is Islam the oldest religion? Religion, Israel, Is Israel name? Religion, Laws, How Laws are changed? Religion, Level field, Should there be level field? Religion, Life after death, Nigerian Lottery, Is it like that? Religion, Minor Deities, Do they Exist? Religion, Modern age, Would there have been religion…? Religion, Morality, Should state have no role in Morality?
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Religion, Name, Do we worship same God? Religion, Name, Was there no name for religion in the age of Patriarch? Religion, Oldest religion, Did prophet bring any new religion? Religion, Oldest Religion, What is the oldest religion? Religion, Prophets, Why so many religions? Religion, Science Progress, Does Religion stops science? Religion, What is difference between Islam and Christianity? Ritual Law, What was Adam’s Sin? Saudi Arabia, Tolerance, Why no Churches in KSA? Science Limitations, What is scope of Science? Sects, Non Muslims, Non Muslims should join which sect? Sexual Freedom, West, Why is it not working? Shariah, Application, Boon or Bane? Shariah, Flexibility, What are the limits? Shariah, Fruits, What are Fruits for KSA? Shariah, Punishment, Are they Moderate? Shariah, Wants, Why demand is more in Britain than in Pak? Sin, Death, Did Jesus die for our sins? Sin, Effect, How did Jesus took the sin away? Stories, New Converts, Why one should post them? Study Abroad, Should Indians study Abroad? Survival of Fittest, Truth, Is Survival of Fittest proven by TOE? Teaching , HS, Should it be taught? Teaching, High School, Should evolution be taught at HS? TOE, Creator, Some points TOE, Creator, Some points Tolerance, Love, Are they One Way Street?
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Trinity, Math, Can Trinity be proven by Math? USA Haughtiness, Is US haughty? Violence, Killing Innocents, Terrorist or Freedom Fighters? Violence, Non Violence , Are Christians Non Violent? War on Terror, Afghanistan, For How Long? War on Terror, Afghanistan, Was it a just war? War on Terror, Afghanistan, Way out? War on Terror, Islam, Why this war does not solve Terrorism? War, Afghanistan, What are the real aims? War, Afghanistan, What is real purpose of war? War, Prince of War, Are Christians followers of prince of peace? War, Terror Factories, Have US and NATO destroyed Terror Factories? Week and Months, Names, How they originated? West, New Converts, Do most New Converts turn back? Women Right, Monetary Authority, Has Women right to spend their husband’s money? Women Rights, Treatment, How are women treated in Islam? Women s Right, Equality of Sexes, What is Islamic opposition? Women, Dress, Can women wear Swim Suits? Women’s Rights, Muslims Actions, Do we support what Muslims do? World Population, Is World Overpopulated?
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