cientific Proof of Reincarnation Dr.

Ian Stevenson's Life Work
"Either he [Dr. Stevenson] is making a colossal mistake. Or he will be known as the Galileo of the 20th century." Dr Harold Lief in the Journal of Nervous and Mental Disease  About Dr. Ian Stevenson  Omni Magazine's Interview with Dr. Ian Stevenson  Sweet Swarnlata: An Example Case of Dr. Ian Stevenson's Probably the best known, if not most respected, collection of scientific data that appears to provide scientific proof that reincarnation is real, is the life's work of Dr. Ian Stevenson. Instead of relying on hypnosis to verify that an individual has had a previous life, he instead chose to collect thousands of cases of children who spontaneously (without hypnosis) remember a past life. Dr. Ian Stevenson uses this approach because spontaneous past life memories in a child can be investigated using strict scientific protocols. Hypnosis, while useful in researching into past lives, is less reliable from a purely scientific perspective. In order to collect his data, Dr. Stevenson methodically documents the child's statements of a previous life. Then he identifies the deceased person the child remembers being, and verifies the facts of the deceased person's life that match the child's memory. He even matches birthmarks and birth defects to wounds and scars on the deceased, verified by medical records. His strict methods systematically rule out all possible "normal" explanations for the child’s memories. Dr. Stevenson has devoted the last forty years to the scientific documentation of past life memories of children from all over the world. He has over 3000 cases in his files. Many people, including skeptics and scholars, agree that these cases offer the best evidence yet for reincarnation. Dr. Stevenson's credentials are impeccable. He is a medical doctor and had many scholarly papers to his credit before he began paranormal research. He is the former head of the Department of Psychiatry at the University of Virginia, and now is Director of the Division of Personality Studies at the University of Virginia. In order to help the reader become familiar with Dr. Stevenson's work, a 1988 Omni Magazine Interview is reprinted below. Following the interview is a summary of one of Dr. Stevenson's most famous cases.

Omni Magazine Interview with Dr. Ian Stevenson

By Meryle Secrest This interview was published in 1988. It shows yet more of the many fascinating ideas and views that Dr. Ian Stevenson holds, as he draws from his fifty years of education and research into the foundations of human personality. The idea that some children of ages three to five not only remember a previous existence, but can identify loved ones from it, strikes most Westerners as so bizarre that it compels disbelief. Perhaps this is why the world's foremost investigator of the phenomenon, Dr. Ian Stevenson, has attracted so little attention. Since the late Sixties Dr. Ian Stevenson, Carlson Professor of Psychiatry and Director or the Division of Personality Studies at the University of Virginia, has documented cases in India, Africa, the Near and Far East, Britain, the United States, and elsewhere in which young children have astonished their parents with precise details about the people they claim to have been. Some of these children have recognized former homes and neighborhoods as well as still-living friends and relatives. They have recalled events in their purported previous lives, including their often violent deaths. Sometimes their birthmarks resemble scars that correspond to wounds that led, they claim, to their deaths. All this is the stuff of lurid fiction and pulp journalism, presumably unworthy of serious investigation. In this context Stevenson is considered unique: His studies are scrupulously objective and methodologically impeccable. The late Herbert S. Ripley, former chairman of the psychiatry department at the University of Washington in Seattle, noted, "We are lucky to have someone of his ability and high integrity investigating this controversial area. Wrote Dr. Harold Lief in the Journal of Nervous and Mental Diseases: "Either he is making a colossal mistake, or he will be known as the Galileo of the twentieth century." Born in Montreal on October 31, 1918, Ian Stevenson was the son of a Scottish lawyer, John Stevenson. A writer at heart, the elder Stevenson became chief correspondent in Ottawa for Times of London. His wife, Ruth Preston Stevenson, had an extensive library on psychic phenomena. But Stevenson cannot recall any incidents that triggered his interest in psychic matters. "Virtually nothing has happened to me of that nature," he says. "I wish it would; I sometimes wonder what my trouble is." Stevenson studied medicine at the University of St. Andrews in Scotland and then transferred to McGill University in Montreal after the outbreak of World War II. His studies in internal medicine led to an interest in psychosomatic illness and then in psychiatry. Although he trained as a Freudian psychoanalyst, he now says, "I feel sure that Freud will one day be considered a figure of fun. After his first book, which was clinically based, he became involved in theoretical musings and practically lost interest in investigation. He ended up inventing an inverted cone of theory supported by a tiny base of data." In 1957 Stevenson was appointed chief psychiatrist at the hospital of the University of Virginia, and today he heads the Division of Personality Studies. The author of many papers in professional psychiatric journals, Stevenson has written two standard texts on psychiatric interviewing and diagnosis. In 1964 he abandoned psychiatry to devote himself entirely to research into psychic phenomena and reincarnation. Buying time for his work took money.

All of Stevenson's books have been published by the University Press of Virginia. which were predominantly case histories? . Children Who Remember Previous Lives. for instance. except for the souvenirs of Stevenson's travels. which line the walls: Indian and African masks. Stevenson saw the shortcomings of most evidence from adult cases. They include Twenty Cases Suggestive of Reincarnation. Carlson. Stevenson and his staff work in an old house on a Charlottesville street that long ago lost its residential status and is now filled with parking lots and apartment buildings. Although a child might have no conscious memories (imaged memories) from a former life. endowed a chair at the University of Virginia. England. Focusing on the memories of very young children. and phobias (behavioral memories) might have been formed by experiences he or she had forgotten. aptitudes. he concluded that one might distinguish between "imaged" and "behavioral" memories. which will be published in several volumes over the next few years. He now has 2. Even decades ago. who died in 1968. Between 1966 and 1971. and swords. as he was finishing his first paper on memories of persons claiming previous lives. and Telepathic Impressions. and classifying evidence than with drawing resounding conclusions. Such studies are exhaustive as well as expensive. just before leaving Virginia for Cambridge. it would appear. Cases of the Reincarnation Type (four volumes). in the fall of 1987. Omni: Your newest book [in 1988]. fans. secretly tenacious. Finally. and all are in print. Lately Stevenson has scrutinized evidence based on physical characteristics such as birthmarks and birth defects. it seems. is much more concerned with painstakingly accumulating. How does this book differ from your previously published books. his interests. For several years Stevenson declined my request to interview him. caught the eye of Chester Carlson. most still unexamined for lack of money and researchers. clarifying. may tip the scales between evidence supporting reincarnation and evidence making any other conclusion difficult to sustain." published in 1960. Unlearned Language: New Studies in Xenoglossy. He is rather an intensely private person and. he relented. along with bequeathing the funds that still support Stevenson's research. explaining that his reluctance stemmed from previous experiences in which he had been tricked by the press and badly misrepresented. after much questioning. Stevenson is a courtly and attentive listener with a reputation for being diffident. Stevenson logged an average of 55.500 such cases on file from all over the world.000 miles a year. is a rare discussion of the evidence presented. Stevenson says. Stevenson. "The Evidence for Survival from Claimed Memories of Former Incarnations. as might be gathered from the set of his jaw. and then India. often making return visits and interviewing as many as 25 witnesses for a single case. drums. Carlson promptly took the first major step toward funding the studies that Stevenson has been conducting ever since. This latest body of work.Luckily. The interior is comfortable and modern without being in any way memorable. A Review and Report of Thirty-five New Cases. Now sixty-nine. Stevenson's first essay on past lives. inventor of the Xerox machine. Perhaps reincarnation could explain features of the human personality that other theories have failed to elucidate.

Omni: Do you wait for people to get in touch. people in the same family or village are involved. And you’ve directly linked the phobias and addictions of . I saw how fascinating and valuable these cases were. or do you pursue cases? Stevenson: It's sort of mixed now. and I eventually began to see that most of their cases were worthless. Omni: You've found children with intense interests in subjects having no relation to anything in their family background or up-bringing. So there's a likelihood that some adult or older child has talked about a deceased person and the child has absorbed the information. I want to write more so that not too many of my books will be posthumous. Orthodox theory conceives human personality as the product of a person's genetic material inherited from his ancestors through his parents. of children convinced that they are the wrong sex. Omni: When did you hit on the idea of dealing just with children? Stevenson: It evolved in the late Sixties. I've got so much data I've been trying to withdraw from fieldwork myself. however. with the methods that had been developed in psychiatry for helping people." published ten years ago. probably after I went to India. about uncanny abilities that seem to develop spontaneously. But I found that some cases cannot be satisfactorily explained by genetics. In the better cases. with no contact between the villages. especially about deceased people in some distant town. an issue in most cases I cite in India. you see. and even such matters as irrational food preferences. the readership was not among scientists but rather from the public at large. You can't really control the subconscious influences to which most adults are exposed. Judging from the mail. it has gone into seven languages and has probably sold fifty thousand copies. Omni: Is this work the only study of its kind in the United States? Stevenson: Yes. but that's over a twenty-year period. especially one living in an Asian village. differences between one-egg twins. and it's unique for the rest of the world. congenital deformities. This is not. however. In many of our cases in northwest North America and Burma. I had become dissatisfied. It's so much easier to be confident about the amount of information a small child might have learned. My paper "The Explanatory Value of the Idea of Reincarnation. Obviously children are too young to have absorbed a great deal of information. environmental influences. I am speaking of such things as early childhood phobias. and the modifying influences of his prenatal and postnatal environment. they couldn't have known about them. or a combination of these. as our questioning makes clear. Often the child has quite precise details. scientists who have worked with me are now beginning to do independent research. In India. suggested that the study of these cases might illuminate problems in psychology and medicine.Stevenson: It occurred to me that my case histories were not being widely read---to understate the matter--although Twenty Cases Suggestive of Reincarnation has now become a best seller as far as scientific books go. many of which involve long distances. Adults would write to me. twenty-five to fifty kilometers or more.

say. This phenomenon is usually thought to have been caused by infantile trauma. Are you talking about aspects of their personalities that heredity does not explain? Stevenson: That's right. but sometimes the boy or girl is too shy to talk. But one wonders why the one grandchild in ten who had the moles claimed to remember his grandfather's life. . We sometimes have to pare away a great deal of extraneous information. and Beethoven. Omni: Do the child's parents often "ruin" a case before you arrive? Stevenson: All too often we reach the scene after the subject and his family have met the family about whom he's been talking. and hands--have claimed to remember being murdered and state that the murderer had removed these fingers. the prison reformer. Or take the cases of Elizabeth Fry. I would be particularly interested if a child has a large birthmark or a congenital malformation. even though there is evidence that some children reject their parents before the parents have a chance to reject them. one can entertain the idea that these children are demonstrating strong likes. dislikes. and Florence Nightingale. toes. and even genius that are the logical results of previous experiences. I suggest that such behavior could result from unhappy experiences in a previous life. Obviously the latter has much less value. It's easy to see environmental influences. the founder of modern nursing. I always prefer to record the child's account.children to traumas that transpired in the lives of people these children claim to have been. I've reported on a case of a child who claimed to have been his own paternal grandfather and had two pigmented moles in the same spots on his body that his grandfather did. Comparatively little attention is given to the child. Omni: What about one's own child? Are there ways to introduce the subject? Stevenson: I see no harm in asking a child if he remembers a previous life. with such composers as Bach. I have found some children with skills that seem to be carried over from a previous life. Mozart. Some theorists even try to explain it as the result of parents rejecting the child--before it has been born. But I don't approve of pumping children if they don't want to talk. They treat parents and siblings with indifference. One can find endless examples that are difficult to explain given our current theories. Both had to fight for their chosen callings from childhood onward. Or take congenital malformations: Children born with deformed limbs--or even without fingers. Omni: What about cases of childhood mental illness? Stevenson: There again you will find cases of children acting as if they did not belong in their families. even hostility. his father even sternly discouraged it. toes. and I have to fall back on what parents say about his or her statements. It's said in such instances that genetics is responsible. skills. In such situations the approach would be to ask the child to explain the birth defect. My colleagues and I try to separate what the child said before meeting the other family from what he said later. But if one accepts the possibility of reincarnation. But what about George Frederic Handel? His family had no discernible interest in music. all of whose fathers were fine musicians. or hands during the killing. Researchers look to the parents for the first cause.

Even in cultures where reincarnation is accepted. sixty-two percent were male. After five. Some southern European Christians believed in reincarnation until the Council of Nice banned such beliefs in 553 A. Schopenhauer took it seriously. Yet most scientists nowadays do not believe in survival after death. Omni: How frequently do children claim to have memories of a past life? Stevenson: We don't yet know the incidence of cases. as many cases never go beyond the immediate family. But are these cases actually representative? Those involving accidents. parents sometimes think such memories are harmful. Before the age of two or three he lacks the ability. and Voltaire's observation that it is no more surprising to be born twice than once is wellknown. Plato described souls about to be reborn as choosing their future lives. One survey of a township in northern India found one case for every five hundred persons. sixty-one percent remembered having died violently. In The Republic. not to mention a murderer. and if death was violent. but boys are presented to us more often than girls A girl may not be marriageable if she is the notorious subject of a case. Almost seventy five percent of our children appear to recall the way they died. Stevenson: Yes. This would almost certainly understate the matter. Reincarnation may be particularly uncongenial because it's so much identified—mistakenly I think—with the Hindu and Buddhist ideas of being reborn as an animal. I suppose Darwinian ideas contributed to a sort of dethroning of the soul. they remember it in vivid detail Omni: You’ve stated that boys remember more often than girls. In more than seven hundred cases in six different cultures. reincarnate in their family. Omni: What would predispose someone to remember a previous life? Stevenson: Violent death is a factor in our cases. Children also tend to remember the final years or a previous life. All we know are those that come to us. too much else will be happening in his life.D. I can't explain this. so she may be kept in the background. Omni: What has it been like to swim against the tide? Stevenson: Invigorating! (Laughs) Omni: What criticism is most frequently leveled at your work? . and he will begin to forget. unless men are more likely to die violent deaths Omni: Why do most Westerners ridicule the idea of reincarnation? Stevenson: It's hard to find any single explanation. They are often upset by what the child remembers. and suicides are bound to get more attention than others in which the child remembers a quiet life. Parents would not be particularly pleased to have a murdered child. In a series of one thousand ninety-five cases from around the world.I cannot emphasize too strongly that a child who is going to remember a previous life has only about three years in which he will talk about it. murders.

said it was due to our fear of having to undergo a postmortem review of our lives. the argument goes. Omni: Scientists usually dismiss reincarnation as some sort of wishful thinking. They believe in it. If a child seems to refer to a previous life. Omni: Retributive Karma being the idea that whatever bad you do in this life is paid for in the next by having the same amount of evil done to you? Stevenson: Something like that. and some two thousand years ago Patanjali. Hindus see life in terms of a constant cycle of births in which we are doomed to struggle and suffer until we have reached perfection and can escape. it's argued that his parents encourage him and may unwittingly feed the child information about a deceased person. perhaps as a fisherman. that the child must have learned about the deceased. It is said that despite all my efforts. While this is a valid argument for a small number of cases. I call this the sociopsychological interpretation of the cases. Fear of death is almost universal. especially retributive Karma. they would make valuable discoveries Children often seem to express memories of previous lives in their play and sometimes in their drawings. Yet William James noted that our desire to believe in survival after death does not automatically negate its possibility. I have not eliminated the possibility that the subject of a case learned everything he knew through normal channels. But in . It can be more specific. of knives. a Muslim sect of Lebanon. then maybe a pirate. There is no evidence for the idea of retributive Karma. then a banker. you will be blinded. so that if you put out someone's eyes. but they don't particularly want to. to be judged and presumably be found wanting. don't we? Stevenson: No. on the other hand. They believe God sends us into different sorts of lives. and parents. a people I’ve worked with a lot. If you believe you had been stabbed to death in a previous life. Omni: Your new book discusses some misconceptions about the idea of reincarnation. That's a misunderstanding concerning Hindus and Buddhists. would listen to children and observe them with reincarnation in mind. We do want to believe in it. in fact we don’t. is precisely the view of the Druze. The notion of a succession of lives with improvement in each. Once a child comes to believe he or she was a particular person in a previous life. it's inapplicable for long-distance cases where a child shows a detailed knowledge about a family his parents have never heard of. absolutely. Omni: Why do all the cases seem to be in Asia? Couldn't critics find any in the West? Stevenson: Oh. especially those occurring in the same family or village.Stevenson: That the cases occur most where people already believe in reincarnation. for example. But my critics say I must have overlooked something. let alone met. the other elements follow naturally. family doctors. What is the most common? Stevenson: The idea that reincarnation must include what Hindus call Karma. as well as pediatricians. I am convinced that if child psychologists and psychiatrists. you might have a phobia. an Indian sage.

After a long silence he finally said. I'm not much of a missionary. you might be reborn into elegant circumstances. Stevenson: In my experience. [In 1952 a Colorado housewife claimed that under hypnosis she relived memories of a previous life as an Irish girl. Is your position that reincarnation can never really be demonstrated? Stevenson: I don't think I rebuke anybody for being convinced by the evidence. All I say is that maybe they shouldn't believe on the basis of what's in that particular book. Some of these "previous lives" have been traced back to historical novels. We've discussed cases of children and adults who have been able to speak a tongue they could not possibly have learned. You seem persuaded by the evidence for Bridey Murphy. and I replied with a certain enthusiasm. "We know that reincarnation is true. and in other cases the previous personality evoked has refused to go away for a long time. Although rare. began to speak German--not very well. One that I published concerns the wife of a Methodist minister who. if a banker. Bridey Murphy. one should be thoroughly honest—and rich! Whether pirate or peasant. Most of that was drained out of me on my first trip to India. Omni: In your new book you speak reprovingly of people easily persuaded by your evidence. because the detailed case reports are in my other books.each life we should do the best we can. . Omni: Yet there are some cases that might argue in its favor. All the cases I've investigated so far have shortcomings. Your conduct could be vicious in one life. This kind of investigation can actually be dangerous. living in 1806. Some people have been terribly frightened by their supposed memories. after having been hypnotized by her husband. You have pointed out why these are likely to be fraudulent. Even taken together. they do occur. he asked me what I was doing. I did have a certain zeal when I first went there. but it doesn't make any difference because here in India we have just as many rogues and villains as you have in the West" End of interview. and in the next. the term for this is xenoglossy. But one life has nothing to do with the next. it's all summed up at the day of judgment. When I talked to Ramakrishna Swami in Chandigarh. but I do deplore the commercial exploitation and misleading claims that are often made. it's more likely that more and more people will see its relevance. A large part of what emerges under hypnosis is pure fantasy.] Stevenson: Yes. So I'm not saying that hypnosis is never a useful tool. they do not offer anything like proof. but German nonetheless--and described the life of a teenage girl who may have lived in Germany in the late nineteenth century. But as the body of evidence accumulates. It is no secret that we are all highly suggestible under hypnosis. Essentially I say that the idea of reincarnation permits but doesn't compel belief. I think it is one of the few. Omni: Many claims are made for the authenticity of previous lives based on memories supposedly recovered under hypnosis. nearly all so-called previous personalities evoked through hypnotism are entirely imaginary and a result of the patient's eagerness to obey the hypnotist's suggestion.

Countess Maud. It's a possibility I consider in every case. though. The subject had modified it a little bit. but it's not a satisfactory explanation for most long-distance cases.There is another English case going back to the turn of the century that was studied by a Cambridge don. Omni: Do you disagree with most bioscientists. in which a young woman seemed to be describing the life of one Blanche Poynings. There is no money to be made and no particular local renown to be had. I don't believe in the watchmaker God. my colleagues and I describe hoaxes or informants who had deceived themselves about the strength of evidence. He or she often begrudges us the time it takes to conduct an interview. who hold that what we call mind or soul is actually a part of brain activity? Stevenson: The assumption that our minds are nothing but our brains appears to receive support when you consider the effect of injury. I believe in a "Self-maker God" who is evolving and experimenting. including proper names and the sort of life she lived. The average villager in Asia and Africa doesn't have time to devise a hoax. She gave a lot of detail about the people concerned. who often have such a strong desire to trace a deceased person that they may be too anxious to find the child they're looking for. It's not a serious problem for us. Omni: Have you found evidence of conscious hoax? Stevenson: There are a few. but I think not often. but basically it was all in the novel. You might call it unconscious wish fulfillment. A child could obtain some information normally and then forget it. a person around the court of Richard II in the fourteenth century. In a recent paper on seven cases of deception and self-deception. yes. She didn't remember reading it. Successful fraud takes the cooperation of numerous witnesses and a child drilled to perfection. so are we as parts of Him. published in the latter part of the nineteenth century. Sometimes. but she remembered turning the pages. souls may need periods for rest and reflection. or source amnesia. In her trancelike state the girl herself came out with a reference to a book. since too much information is needed to put together a believable set of previous-life memories. Some neuroscientists ac knowledge that they have only just begun to show how brain processes account for mental ones. I do. My idea of God is that He is evolving. a classic Victorian novel all about a countess at the court of Richard II. and a little later they began asking her about sources of information. Omni: Do you see in reincarnation a glimpse of a larger purpose? Stevenson: Well. Bodies wear out. or one or two drinks of whiskey on our mental processes. jump to conclusions on the basis of very slender evidence. the original creator who built the watch and then lets it tick. For instance. So you have that kind of case. The investigators kept on probing. and it turned out that her aunt had a copy of the book. a high fever. surgery. But they claim to know that they or their . is another matter. there may be paramnesia—a mixing up of memories. The Druze. although gross self-deception can happen. Cryptomnesia. I was shown two Alevi children in Turkey who were said to be the reincarnation of President Kennedy: These kinds of cases are uncommon and relatively easy to detect. Afterward one may start again with a new body. I may have been hoaxed in other cases without knowing it.

They'll all have photographs. When it was fashionable to ascribe all emotional disorders to the ineptitude of one's parents. gender-identity confusion is considered one result of reincarnation and taken calmly. chromosome] can explain some but not all cases. or female. Turkey. such as Klinefelter's syndrome [a genetic condition in which a male is born with an extra X. Omni: Do you have a research staff? Stevenson: Yes. There he was. a small number of psychologists and philosophers have begun to ask whether mind can ever be fully explained in terms of brain functioning. We are not pledged to follow all the received opinions of neuroscientists. perhaps such cases are never reported even when they do occur. not many Asians have been trained in science. surrounded by cases. Omni: The possibility of sex change puts the question of homosexuality and gender confusion in a new light. sitting up in Mandalay. doesn't it? Stevenson: Yes. Obviously they have the immediate advantage over me in that they need no interpreters. It is easier to come up with statistics than to interpret them. Recently. [Note: Stevenson’s truly massive study. therefore they consider no other.successors will work it all out. It's my most important book. On the other hand. Omni: You've said that more girls remember boys' lives than the reverse. sixty-six will be females remembering previous lives as boys. whereas in Southeast Asian cultures. I now have about two hundred cases. In contrast. Western psychiatrists and psychologists do not have a satisfactory explanation for this. we have two full-time assistants. I remember a Harvard-trained psychologist in Burma who could barely be polite to me. Of one hundred sex-change cases [cases in which the child recollects having been a different sex in a previous life]. Lebanon. however. Burma. A biological explanation. A boy would be teased mercilessly. and I've been able to match up about fifteen of them with postmortem reports. I hope the first volume of thirty will be published this year. Reincarnation ought to be considered as a possible explanation at least some of the time. and I've been writing it for about ten years. Stevenson: That's right. as a girl. The overall ratio is two to one. was finally . I published a few of them in Twenty Cases Suggestive of Reincarnation without much special mention or photographs. cases of gender-identity confusion were blamed on parents. were once a boy than the reverse. Those who are trained have usually come to think of reincarnation as a superstition of their childhoods and one they'd rather forget. They are sure there can be no other explanation. and northwest North America. Omni: What's next for you? Stevenson: I'm mainly working now on a massive study of birthmarks and birth defects. I've discussed this in some Burmese cases. In a culture in which to change one's sex is not acceptable. Reincarnation and Biology. It may be culturally more acceptable in Burma to say that you. This first group contains cases from India. and he had no interest in them. So far most overseas cases have been investigated first by people on the spot. But a few Asian scientists have been extremely helpful.

but for an impressive number there is no natural explanation. or what we call an elevated nevus. We've had twenty-three cases involving fear of retribution for suicide in the previous life. Imagine a person in a canoe paddling down a river. .published in 1997. and many of them cannot be distinguished. Children who remember a previous life that ended in suicide sometimes still have the suicide habit. guns in some cases.] Omni: Do birthmarks occur very often? Stevenson: Some birthmarks are common. Someone on the cliff above. That we've had. and several had phobias about the instrument of suicide--that is. If things go wrong. He doesn't have to go over the rapids. darkened mole. The thought that nothing would be over or solved so one might as well face one's troubles is. Haven't you cited cases of children who have committed suicide? Stevenson: That's rather rare. Present understanding of our brains leaves no room for these phenomena. or any number of plausible explanations. Around the corner are rapids he doesn't see. poison in others. Dreams. One person told me that her memories of suicide had deterred her from killing herself. I have examined at least two hundred of this kind. At any point. I'm talking about a raised. I have been able to overcome this objection in about thirty cases by obtaining autopsy or other medical records. suppressed memories. But it depends on what you call a birthmark. of course. Omni: In Memories. depressed. The average American has about fifteen. Omni: You are also interested in the phenomena of precognition and telepathy. Omni: What prevented Hamlet from committing suicide was the suspicion that death might not be the end of things. Carl Jung wrote that as a boy he remembered in great detail being a very old man in the eighteenth century. Find more information in Carol’s Bookstore. at least by me. in my view. Such records provide the strongest evidence we have so far in favor of reincarnation. they'll threaten to commit suicide. telepathy. seeing the whole river. from the scars of healed wounds. or puckered. In many cases I've had to rely on memories of surviving relatives and friends for information about the exact location of wounds or other marks on the previous personality in question. aren't you? Stevenson: Precognition is just a clearer idea of a possible future. This has led to the sensible objection that relatives might have tailored their memories to fit the circumstances for a variety of reasons. We haven't followed them. the canoeist might pull over to the bank. according to some surveys. What is interesting about precognition. the area being partly or wholly elevated. Some marks are simply areas of increased pigmentation. of course. can see what's likely to happen to that person. You can discount ninety-five percent of these cases. a very effective deterrent. in other cases. the birthmark is three-dimensional. or any other form of paranormal communication is the number or people who believe they've had at least one experience: between ten and seventeen percent in the United Slates and Great Britain. Most can be put down to coincidence. and Reflections.

her first words were. and that reason often has to do with someone who wishes them well or ill. Americans are nomadic. They also believe. who had told him to take over this body. I studied this case with much care but couldn't find an explanation for the discrepancy. Chaokhun Rajsuthajarn. First. These cases are extremely rare in Buddhist countries. Buddhists tend to regard them as suspect and even bogus because they do not harmonize with the Buddhist concept of rebirth. There was also a case in Thailand in which a monk. Everything happens for a reason. they also have stronger family ties. Omni: When you're dealing with Asian children. they have time to reflect on their lives. A fifth of all Americans move from one community to another each year. "What am I doing here? I was at the port.Stevenson: Children we have studied often act as if they had been transferred without warning from an adult's body into a baby's. why do certain Asian cultures have so many cases? To begin with. the paranormal. When he revived he claimed that he was somebody totally different. and a quarter move within the community. Omni: Why do American children have so many less concrete and verifiable memories than Asian children do? Stevenson: I have speculations and conjectures. the personality he remembered. All these factors may have some bearing on this question and perhaps put them in closer touch with their past lives. Some of the Asian children's memories are stimulated by their noticing slight environmental differences. or a sage. A heavy oil drum had fallen on him and killed him instantly. changing their neighborhood and environment. If the difference is great. that stimulus may be missing. In Twenty Cases there’s the case of Jasbir. They are not clock-watchers as we are. these cultures remember their dead more than we do and see them as still being actively involved in life. In dealing with people who died naturally rather than violently. couldn't you be involved with people whose past lives did not get completed? Stevenson: That's right. and that dreams foretell the future. In his new personality Jasbir said that after death he had met a mahatma. also a different kind of discrepancy story. almost the first thing he said was. "What's trumps?" Omni: You briefly mentioned your new studies in chronological discrepancies. When one of our Turkish children began to speak. Cases like this remind me or a woman who had a stroke while playing bridge. Are you talking about personalities that are reborn into new children before the end or the previous life? Stevenson: There are a few of those. Turning the question the other way around. we can ." Later on he described details in the life of a dockworker who had fallen asleep in the hold of a ship. He was about two and a half when he appeared to die of smallpox. When she came around several days later. much more than we do in the West. To them there is no such thing as random fate. in telepathy. claimed to have been born a day before the death of Nai Leng. a man who had just died and stumbled into the body.

and we could match them up with a deceased person in only sixteen cases. for instance. should try to be reborn in a saint's family if he can. Omni: Would you speculate on why certain children show up in certain families? Stevenson: If they are Muslims. which would argue for an enormous interval. In the first we might place people who were well one moment and dead the next. Omni: Even so. the Indian cases.distinguish several broad groups. and the person nearly always turned out to be a family member. Not a single child claimed to have been famous in a previous lifetime. these cases of children who remember may be exceptional. "solved. in the third there are those who died with unfinished business--mothers who left infants or young children. since the eighteenth century in that case. How many others may be reborn without remembering." In my paper American Children who Claim to Remember Previous Lives" I analyzed seventy-nine cases. Omni: One of your American cases involved a person who remembered a life in which she had been scalped. just as they can in our own. only fifteen to twenty have been verified. They may become cases because they do remember. as we say. Someone who wants to evolve morally. In the second category one might place those who died before the age of twelve of whatever natural causes. Omni: Is the average space between death of one personality and that personality's rebirth in a new child about fifteen months? Stevenson: Yes. or. just like the majority of our Asian children. they'll attribute it to Karma. It might be that the purpose is to live and learn together. With only two thousand cases to go on. doesn't that argue for a staggering number of lives relived? Stevenson: Well. I'd hardly dare speculate about the billions of human beings since the beginning of the human race who have disappeared without a trace. Our analyses have not shown that longer intervals between lives mean fewer memories. for instance One would also have to include people who had not been particularly young when they died but left life in the middle of some absorbing project. thus making the case not significant for our purposes. of our roughly one hundred Western cases. not because they are reborn. The . say. for instance. undistinguished people. or not reborn? The fifteen month average is perhaps true only for people who are murdered in India. if the interval is fifteen months for each of us. So we would rarely expect to be able to verify cases in which the interval was greater than twentyfive years. The majority seemed to be ordinary. Any one of these people might have felt entitled to a longer life than they turned out to have. If they're Hindu or Buddhist. American children named few names. before they or anyone else had a chance to adjust to the idea. they will say God did it. They are nowhere near as rich in detail as. We do have to be prepared for the possibility that memories can fade in a world or discarnate minds. Stevenson: Yes. but I think our figure comes mainly from Asian cases because. For most people it's possible the interval between death and rebirth is much longer than the cases we've studied so far.

Some gave me these "readings" spontaneously. They're all totally unverifiable. or children. as if these children had special wisdom. because you consulted eight sensitives. In other cases. or mediums. It's a question for the next century. I've also had people envy children who remember previous lives. I think so. it makes more sense to look upon them as suffering from an abnormality. Omni: What advice do you have for those who have no memories of a previous life? Stevenson: Some persons have said it is unfair to be reborn unless you can remember details of a previous life and profitably remember your mistakes. almost a defect. One Indian boy was passionately attached to the woman he said had been his former mistress and was trying to get her back. with their limited outlook on life. we would fall again. causing himself and her real distress. You could say they were picking up different lives. I didn't ask him. Why a person appears to be reborn in one family rather than another interests me passionately. Omni: You must have been somewhat curious about what previous lives you might have led. When I was visiting an Indian swami. It just sort of happened along the way. I think he said something about a previous life in India. and it's a ridiculous waste of everybody's time. There are people who charge money for this. sufficient unto one life is the evil thereof. we were to remember how we stumbled. Omni: Might someone consider where and how one would like to be reborn? Stevenson: I think an even more important question is. If every time we walked. The memories they have are often more of a handicap than a blessing. saying they are not their real parents and have often started down the road toward their so-called real homes. In fact. some had me in different places at the same time. and they nearly all become happier as they grow older and forget their previous lives. I've forgotten what it was. In many cases children have rejected their parents. I had two talk about eighteenth-century lives in the same period. they insist on being reunited with their former husbands.most serious punishment I could imagine for a Mafia murderer would be to be reborn in a Mafia family. wives. I think that's too personal. Who would want me as a baby? Omni: Can I ask where and as whom you would like to be reborn? Stevenson: No. They forget that forgetting is essential to successful living in the present. . Omni: Isn't it often a disadvantage to remember a previous life? Stevenson: Oh. Omni: Do you have children or your own? Stevenson: Unfortunately not. Stevenson: Consulted is too strong a word. These children become embroiled in divided loyalties. To paraphrase Jesus Christ. and they were completely different. he just blurted something out.

and was treated by Dr. We’ve had two or three incidents of children going to. I wouldn't claim to be free of the fear of death. Swarnlata Mishra was born to an intellectual and prosperous family in Pradesh in India in 1948. This is the original long version written for the book by Carol Bowman called "Children's Past Lives". four rooms were stuccoed. Ian Stevenson’s classic book. the front floor was of stone slabs. She added that the family had a motor car (a very rare item in India in the 1950's. behind the house was a girl's school. edited version appeared in the book. C. she gave enough information to enable Stevenson to locate the family of the deceased person she remembered (the case was "solved"). These children sometimes provide reassurances to adults. a woman who has lost her husband and is inconsolable and saying." Sweet Swarnlata A Case from Dr. She said her name was Biya Pathak. a district of Katni. But Swarnlata's case was also different from most because her memories did not fade. and lime furnaces were visible from the house. when Swarnlata was 10 years old. all of which were written down by her father. S. Banerjee. Ian Stevenson This case is extracted from charts and commentary on pages 67 to 91 in Dr. I died and I'm here again. Twenty Cases Suggestive of Reincarnation. but it is probably less in me than other people. she suddenly pointed and asked the driver to turn down a road to "my house". Banerjee took the notes her father made and traveled to Katni to determine if Swarnlata's . This is the original extract in its entirety. and she gave more than 50 specific facts that were verified. in front was a railway line. but due to space constraints a shorter. Death isn’t the end. news of the case reached Professor Sri H. She also remembered an incident at a wedding when she and a friend had difficulty finding a latrine. When she was just three years old and traveling with her father past the town of Katni more than 100 miles from her home. Look at me. "You shouldn’t be crying. and suggested they could get a better cup of tea there than they could on the road. and especially before Swarnlata was born). characterized by love and happy memories rather than by violent death and struggles between castes and families. an Indian researcher of paranormal phenomenon and colleague of Stevenson. let's say. In the spring of 1959. Bhabrat in Jabalpur. And this is a sweet case. She gave details of the house: it was white with black doors fitted with iron bars. Soon after. but other parts were less finished. Sweet Swarnlata's Story The story of Swarnlata is characteristic of Stevenson's cases: the young girl's memories began when she was 3. and that she had two sons. She located the house in Zhurkutia. she related more details of her life in Katni.Omni: Has your work influenced your own attitudes toward life and death? Stevenson: I think so. Swarnlata said Biya died of a "pain in her throat". N. like in so many other cases.

he found the house--despite the house having been enlarged and improved since 1939 when Biya died. who lived a hundred miles away. prominent family. where they arrived unannounced. Upon arriving she immediately noticed and remarked about the changes to the house. the Mishra's had no knowledge of the Pathak family. and the neem tree that used to grow in the . Biya's husband. Biya Pathak had died in 1939 leaving behind a grieving husband. some were strangers to her. Sri Pandey admitted to the truth of this private fact that only he and his wife had known. He interviewed the family and verified everything Swarnlata had said. Swarnlata immediately recognized her brother and called him "Babu". looked bashful--as Hindu wives do in the presence of their husbands--and spoke his name.memories could be verified. She asked about the parapet at the back of the house. and eldest brother journeyed to the town of Chhatarpur. two young sons. who was about the same age as this friend. extracted from the Stevenson's tabulations in Swarnlata's published case. with extensive business interests. It belonged to the Pathak's (a common name in India). Murli. son. These Pathaks had never heard of the Mishra family. Swarnlata's father took her to Katni to visit the home and town where Biya lived and died. but enlisted nine townsmen to accompany them to the Mishar home. and "for almost twenty-four hours insisted against her objections that he was not Murli. But Murli schemed to mislead her. The next scene in this story sounds like a plot from Agatha Christie. but I can imagine the emotions ran high at this point. Biya's pet name for him. Then she came to Sri Chintamini Pandey. but is all true. a verandah." Murli had also brought along a friend and tried to mislead Swarnlata once again by insisting he was Naresh. Ten-year-old Swarnlata went around the room looking at each man in turn. Swarnlata reminded Sri Pandey that he had purloined 1200 rupees Biya kept in a box. The lime furnaces were on land adjoining the property. Biya's husband. but someone else. Using nothing more than the description that Swarnlata had given. Stevenson gives only the barest facts. the girls school was 100 yards behind the Pathak's property. the town where Swarnlata now lived. Gold Fillings A few weeks later. Stevenson says nothing of Sri Pandey's reaction at finding his wife after twenty years Swarnlata also correctly identified her son from her past life. and many younger brothers. Swarnlata lowered her eyes. but not visible from the front. Imagine how Babu felt to be recognized immediately by his dead sister reborn. They did not reveal their identities or purpose to others in the town. Biya's other son. some she identified as men she knew from her town. who was 13 years old when Biya died. to test Swarnlata's memory. Finally. In the summer of 1959. Swarnlata insisted just as strongly that he was a stranger. a wealthy.

He observed the loving relationship between Swarnlata and the other members of the family. the son of the second brother (calling him by his pet name "Baboo"). an old betelnut seller. and friends. She identified Biya's room and the room in which she had died. all had been removed since Biya's death. that her dialect was distinctly different than that of the Pathaks--who acted confidently like an older sister of the household. Swarnlata knew nothing about the Pathak family that had happened since 1939. Swarnlata insisted correctly that this man was actually Biya's second son. she was relaxed and playful as a mother would be--behavior that would otherwise be totally inappropriate in India for a 10-year-old girl in the company of unrelated men in their midthirties. Biya's youngest brother tried to trap Swarnlata by saying that Biya had lost her teeth. Bhola. Swarnlata visited the Pathak family at regular intervals. The Pathak brothers and Swarnlata observed the Hindu custom of Rakhi. which he in fact had acquired since Biya had died) and his wife (calling her by her pet name "Bhoujai"). and remembered even marriage relationships. Just as amazing. Swarnlata behaved appropriately reserved towards Biya's elders. In fact the Pathak brothers were distressed and angry one year when Swarnlata missed the ceremony. Naresh.compound. She did the same for her third and fourth brother. Biya's sisterin-law--all with appropriate emotions of weeping and nervous laughter. in another test. In another test. witnessing one of these visits. She also correctly identified a former servant. was familiar with intimate names and family secrets. her memory was frozen at the time of Biya's death. the wife of the younger brother. but when alone with Biya's sons. old servants. they felt that because she had lived with them for 40 years and with the Mishras for only 10 years that they . a close friend of the family's (correctly commenting that he was now wearing spectacles. and a midwife-whom she identified not by her current name. In the following years. This must have been a spectacle. Swarnlata did not fall for this. She recognized one of Biya's brothers and correctly identified him as her second brother. Stevenson investigated the case in 1961. but by a name she had used when Biya was alive. Here was a ten-year-old stranger from far away--so far. introduced Swarnlata to a man he called a new friend. in which brothers and sisters annually renew their devotion to each other by exchanging gifts. and went on to say that Biya had gold fillings in her front teeth--a fact that the brothers had forgotten and were forced to confirm by consulting with their wives. and the family cowherd (despite her youngest brother's attempt to test Swarnlata by insisting that the cowherd had died). Biya's son Murli. Swarnlata was presented to a room full of strangers and asked whom she recognized. Later. the wife of Biya's brother-in-law. She correctly picked out her husband's cousin. in terms of Indian culture. who reminded them that what Swarnlata said was true. They all accepted her as Biya reborn.

But many of the cases in Stevenson's books are stories where love and miraculous reunions mix with conflict. they admitted that they had changed their views of reincarnation upon meeting Swarnlata and accepting her as Biya reborn (the Pathaks. violent death. he began telling his mother not to cook his meals for him any longer because he had a wife in Moradabad who could cook. she went about the business of growing into a beautiful young woman. in Bisauli. the positive identification of the previous personality. he began to speak in detail of his life there. Copyright 1997 by Carol Bowman and Steve Bowman Reprinted with Permission Parmod Sharma was born on October 11.had a greater claim on her. received an advanced degree in botany. is the persistence of clear memories into her adulthood. In some ways Swarnlata is typical of Stevenson's cases: the amazing number of facts and people she remembered. and got married. This is a sweet case that illustrates what profoundly enriching human experience a past life memory can bring about. the exchange of visits between the families. The cases of Ravi Shankar [Chapter 6 in Children's Past Lives] and Titu Singh illustrate the darker side of life that is often brought to the light when a child has a forceful past life memory. the lack of a traumatic death. 1944. accepting fully her station in this life. her eyes brimmed with tears and." He insisted that he was one of the "Mohan . for a moment. when it came time for Swarnlata to marry he consulted with the Pathaks about the choice of a husband for her. He described several businesses he had owned and operated with other members of hisfamily. however. When Parmod was about two and a half. except for the regular visits to Katni. and the support and cooperation between the families (in most cases one or both of the families are reluctant to encourage the child or to bring the case to the outside world). she wished she could return to the wealth and life of Biya. Sri Mishra. Swarnlata's father. because of their status and wealth. But her loyalty to the Mishra family was undivided and. Moradabad was a town about a ninety miles northeast of Bisauli. when she reminisced about her happy life in Katni. What is not typical. She said that sometimes. calling it "Mohan Brothers. also accepted the truth of Swarnlata's past identity: years later. He reports that she grew up normally. Between the ages of three and four. emulated Western ideas and had not believed in reincarnation before this happened). How did Swarnlata feel about all of this? Was it confusing for her to remember so completely the life of a grown woman? Stevenson visited her in later years and corresponded with her for ten years after this case was investigated. He particularly spoke of a shop that manufactured and sold biscuits (cookies) and soda water. and the age at which she first had her memories. and hostile emotions. As evidence of how strongly the Pathaks believed that Swarnlata was their Biya. India.

Two or three days before his death. News of Parmod's statements. he had been given a bath immediately prior to his death. eventually reached the ears of a family in Moradabad named Mehra which fit many of the details of his story. the Mehra family decided to make the trip to Bisauli to meet Parmod. Parmanand had blamed his illness and impending death on overeating curd. eighteen months before Parmod was born. When they arrived. In the summer of 1949. Parmanand had gorged himself on curd. Parmod had a strong distaste for curd." The shop had been started and managed by Parmanand Mehra until his untimely death on May 9. Shortly thereafter. and his activities connected to it. one of his favorite foods. Parmod's . Parmod said that in his other life he had become seriously ill after eating too much curd one day. however. he had insisted. what was sold there. During this time he provided many details about his shop including its size and location in Moradabad. Parmanand had tried a series of naturopathic bath treatments. which might relate to his report that he had previously "died in a bathtub. which is quite unusual for an Indian child. Parmod tended not to play with the other children in Bisauli but preferred to play by himself.Brothers" and that he also had a business in Saharanpur. He especially liked to make mud biscuits which he served his family with tea or soda water. at a wedding feast. saying that it was dangerous. 1943. building models of shops complete with electrical wiring. He had an equally strong dislike for being submerged in water. He even complained to his parents about the less prosperous financial condition of their home compared to what he was used to as a successful merchant." Parmod said that he had been married and had five children--four sons and one daughter. The brothers of this family owned several businesses in Moradabad including a biscuit and soda water shop named "Mohan Brothers. such as his business trips to Delhi. however. Parmod's parents never investigated or tried to verify their son's claims. Parmanand left a widow and five children--four sons and one daughter. against his family's advice. on eating more curd saying that he might not have another chance to enjoy it. Parmod was away with his family and no contact was made. While he had not in fact died in a bathtub. a town about a hundred miles north of Moradabad. though his mother did get him to begin school by promising to take him to Moradabad when he had learned to read. His family always refused his request. perhaps because of the Indian folk custom that children who remembered a previous life were fated to die early. who was a little under five years old at the time. and on one occasion even advised his father against eating it. and had subsequently developed a chronic gastrointestinal illness followed later by appendicitis and peritonitis from which he died. He was anxious to see his family again and frequently begged his parents to take him to back Moradabad to visit them. As part of his therapy during his appendicitis.

"These are the almirahs I had constructed in Churchill House." (It is common for Indians to call a cousin "brother" if the relationship is a close one. Entering the hotel Parmod pointed to some cupboards and said. She was.father responded to an invitation from the Mehra family and took him to Moradabad to explore his son's compelling remembrances first hand. While touring the hotel the Mehra brothers owned in Moradabad. instead of the colored sari worn by wives. The complicated machine which manufactured the soda water had been secretly disabled in order to test Parmod. Parmod recognized the room where Parmanand had slept and commented on a room screen that he correctly observed had not been there in Parmanand's day. "I have come but you have not fixed bindi. a full grown woman and he was only five. had these . When Parmanand's mother entered the room. Parmod commented on the new sheds that had been built on the property. Entering the shop. Parmod showed a striking knowledge for the details of Parmanand's world. after all. a town about a hundred miles north of Moradabad. In their conversation Parmod would not allow the older Gordhan to address him by his first name but insisted that he call him "father. He also identified a particular cupboard that Parmanand had kept his things in as well as a special low table which had also been his. "I am Parmanand. Sri Karam Chand Mehra. calling him "older brother" and saying. Parmanand had. Later at Parmanand's home. Without any assistance. though apparently possessing at least some of the feelings of an adult husband. During this visit Parmod also correctly identified one of Parmanand's brothers and a nephew. he immediately recognized her and addressed her as "Mother" before anyone else present was able to say anything. (It is customary in India for the owner of a business to have an enclosed seat--a gaddi--located near the front of the store where he can greet customers and direct business. Parmod correctly recognized Parmanand's daughter and the one son who was at the house when he had arrived. He also reproached her for wearing a white sari. When Parmanand's youngest son who had been at school showed up later." he said. giving instructions to the driver of the carriage which brought them from the station. The Mehra family confirmed that these had indeed been added after Parmanand's death. "This is the one I used to use for my meals." "I have only become small. acting somewhat embarrassed in front of her. as was the case for Parmanand and Karam. the appropriate dress for a Hindu widow. When they were alone he said to her. he complained that "his" special seat had been changed." referring to the red dot worn on the forehead by Hindu wives. using his familiar name. Parmod threw his arms around him weeping. Parmod correctly identified him as well. who had been quite close to Parmanand. Parmod knew exactly how it worked.) Parmod then proceeded to find his way to the "Mohan Brothers" shop on his own. he located the disconnected hose and gave instructions in its repair. When shown it. "Who is looking after the bakery and soda water factory?" This had been Parmanand's responsibility. He also correctly identified Parmanand's wife." he said. Gordhan." Churchill House was the name of a second hotel the Mehra brothers owned in Saharanpur.) The location of Parmanand's gaddi had in fact been changed some time after his death. Among those who met Parmod at the railway station was Parmanand's cousin. however. the Victory Hotel. in fact. Once inside Parmod asked.

either financially or in social prestige or attention. "He is a doctor and an old friend of mine. and the conformity of their reasoning to the usual canons of rational thought." he said. cases in which . Yet in hypnotic regression. but has published only a small percentage of the cases investigated. generous recall of details which can be confirmed by associates of the former personality.cupboards constructed for Churchill house during his life. His cautious skepticism and critical methods have earned him the attention of even quite conservative professional journals. Dr. Cases where testimony is inconsistent. Dr." In these cases. those involving no gain. and ideally the opportunity to bring together the second personality with persons known by the first personality. He throws out most of the cases because they do not meet the highest criteria of credibility. and then forgets the circumstances in which they learned it. someone acquires information through entirely natural means.) He also throws out cases where the two families are linked by a person who might have inadvertently transmitted information from one family to the other. no previous connection between families. "I have to get some money back from you. (Stevenson himself never pays his sources. the family had decided to move these cupboards to the Victory Hotel. For example. the distinguished Journal of Nervous and Mental Disease devoted almost an entire issue to his research. he dismisses any cases where the family of the second personality has profited in any way from contact with the family of the first personality. where witnesses are of questionable character. or "hidden memories. Parmod spontaneously identified a doctor known to Parmanand in that city. but after being reassured that the Mehra family was not going to press for repayment. in a review of the first volume of Cases of the Reincarnation Type in the Journal of the American Medical Association. he admitted that Parmod was quite right about the debt. During that visit he also recognized a man named Yasmin whom he insisted owned him (Parmanand) money. some cases turn out to be explainable in terms of cryptomnesia. Lester S. however. the legitimacy of their research methods. At first Yasmin was reluctant to acknowledge the loan. or where there is even the slightest indication of possible fraud are also immediately dropped. Stevenson reports that he has collected over 3. the true source of the information is revealed." Two years earlier. On a visit to Saharanpur later that fall. Eugene Brody wrote: "Our decision to publish this material recognizes the scientific and personal credibility of the authors. In an editorial justifying this attention.000 such cases." he said. King concluded that Stevenson had "painstakingly and unemotionally collected a detailed series of cases in India. no evidence of ulterior motive." Perhaps from a former life. In 1977. Stevenson has published only the strongest cases. Furthermore. Later something triggers the information which subjectively appears to come "out of nowhere. Case dismissed. we think. such as overhearing a conversation or reading a novel. Shortly after Parmanand's death.

our home and our family become familiar and safe. but sometimes the facts are staring you in the face.The True Story of The Children Who Have Lived Before Memories The Case For Reincarnation. This isn't as always imagination. But when children start to talk. We all go through that stage. 'Where is my real Mama? Why am I here with you.[H]e has placed on record a large amount of data that cannot be ignored." Past Lives Reincarnation. find out and that it is true. war records or even memories from your elder members of the family. But how can we tell if our children are telling stories or if they really are the reincarnation of someone who has gone before us? There are many cases stating that children are in fact recalling their Past Lives or Reincarnation. . So when do we know it is something different? I believe that we know there is something strange going on when the child makes a statement that is so mind blowing. and to our astonishment and chagrine. I want to go back and live with my real mummy. Is this a sign of reincarnation? Or do you believe that your child is showing signs of telepathy or other psychic phenomenon? As you will see. who holds us in her arms from the day we are born. and playing with imaginary friends.. by history books.the evidence for reincarnation is difficult to understand on any other grounds. But what happens when your child suddenly says out of the blue.. and nurtures us so that we feel safe and loved. something that can be tested.. What if the child reports a particular incident that can be checked? For example. In most families this is a normal process. From an early age we learn to see and adapt to our surroundings. children can sometimes seem to recall memories from another life. it is one of the most wonderful things to a parent. The life we have starts to become familiar. Children have always had a vivid imagination. Many people will dismiss this idea. We recognise the face of our mother. Soon the words become a pattern and the child soon learns to string sentences together. We tend to know when a child is making up stories. Below are real life stories of Children who believe they have lived before. We expect it from our children. As we grow older.

For the past five and a half years he has been talking about his dreams and memories of being a man called LT. as the subject was something that his parents knew nothing about. 'meatloaf. Andrea had no idea what on earth a drop tank was. At only two and a half years old.The memories Begin 8 Year Old Boy Remembers His Past Life As A Fighter Pilot. and to their astonishment. James Leininger who lives in Louisiana. can't get out. and he would be kicking and pointing to the ceiling. she pointed out a plane in a shop window. he replied. that's a drop tank'. 'Look' she said. more than fifty years before. He had never been taught this. a World War two fighter pilot. realised that something extremely extraordinary was happening. the boy began talking about aviation. At one stage when Andrea took James shopping. 'It has a bomb at the bottom'. Andrea.James McCready Huston. When his parents served him up some meatloaf that she had never given him before. is eight years old. He started having nightmares about being shot down by a Japanese plane with a red sun on it. 'That's not a bomb. 'airplane crash. and his knowledge of the subject was amazing. help. recalled how James would scream at the top of his voice. But there was nothing there that would or could have started these amazing revelations. who had been killed in Iwo Jima. on fire. he went on to tell his bemused parents that he had flown a plane called a Corsair. and took of from a boat called the Natoma. from Uniontown. The child's parents began to study the subject. There was no way James could have known this true information. She was astounded to hear her two and a half year old state. His nightmares started after his father had taken him to Dallas flight museum. . I haven't had that since I was on the Natoma'.

Further research proved that there had indeed been a pilot called James Huston! His plane had indeed been hit by Japanese fire and was struck in the engine.Research Bruce. Huston's sister. his father took him to a reunion of veterans who had served on the Natoma. it's amazing. and states that after listening to little James story. 'He knows too many things. James was able to recognise one of his old mates after sixty years. He discovered that there had been a small escort carrier called the Natoma Bay. for some reason he knows what happened'. everything the boy has said is exactly the account told to James Huston's father and also my mother. When he was there. Anne Barron. James father. Bob now 74 years old also had this to say. 'They're so old'! . His parents stood in awe as he stated. which had been in the Battle of Iwo Jima. she totally believes him. This was March 3rd 1945. 'To me. In a further twist to the story. decided to do some research of his own. Huston's cousin. now 87 years old was tracked down. there is no way this child could have known that'! When James was six years old in 2004.

. who evidently died by being knocked over by a car. Cameron Macaulay Cameron Macaulay has lived his whole life in Glasgow Scotland. and as time went on he got more and more upset about leaving his other mother. He also spent ages drawing 'his' house. He would cry continuously and say that he wished his mother could see that he was alright. but ever since he started talking at the age of two years old. he goes on to explain about there being airplanes that used to land on the beach. his nursery school teacher suggested that maybe they should film him and go to the Island. He would sit on his chair talking about his parents and brothers and sisters. To get there would take a hour by flying or longer by sea. which is situated of the west coast of Scotland. and also the fact that he was very fond of a black and white dog he had whilst he was there. His actual words were. which overlooked the sea and the beach. a long white building. and after listening to his story. The family had never been to Barra as it was over 200 miles away from where they lived. Cameron lives with his mother Norma. The story soon came to the attention of a film company. He started talking about a white house. 'He didn't look both ways'! One of the strangest subjects was the toilets! He used to keep complaining that on Barra his parents had three toilets. His dad on the island was called Shane Robertson. he has told his family about his previous life on the Island of Barra. standing on the beach.Bruce Leininger is said to be writing a book about the experience.

he couldn't stop jumping up and down. 'I'm back'! Chattering away about his Barra mother. They soon booked into a hotel and started to search for clues to Cameron's past. Reaching the Island. they were disappointed to find that no records could be found about any house being owned by the Robertson family overlooking the . 'I'm going home. Cameron's mother stated that they were not particularly religious and had never done this at home. a child psychologist. Jim Tucker. I'm going home' he shouted. the film company agreed to take Cameron to Barra. They were also escorted by a Dr. they were astonished to find that they had indeed landed on the beach! Cameron started to run around yelling. he told everyone that she had long brown hair that fell all the way down her back. When Cameron was told he was going. and that she read him stories from the Bible. Familiar Things After contacting the Heritage Centre to find out about the house.Cameron's Journey To Barra After setting up a meeting.

Eventually the hotel phoned them and told them that yes. there was a Robertson family home on the other side of the island. All the nooks and cranny's. If Cameron saw them from his bedroom window. he had recognised the exact gate at the front. he knew where to go and was so excited. they realised that they had to go the other way. and much to his mothers surprise. when they went into the garden he took them to his secret entrance that he had been talking about for years. slightly uncertain. In most of the reports they don't state whether this is a man or a woman. Then he took off. pointing out all the rooms where he had 'lived'. I believe in the video it says it was a woman. They drove around the island looking for the house but couldn't even see one that resembled Cameron's description. running around the house. He recognised it immediately! But as Cameron walked through the door. To say they were disappointed was an understatement. he began to get very pale and quiet. Then they realised that they were looking in the wrong direction! The planes that Cameron saw were coming in from the wrong side of the bay. the three toilets. but when they arrived. Unfortunately the relative in question seemed to know nothing about a man called Shane Robertson! But even stranger was the fact that this family. how could Cameron know about everything else but get this wrong? it seems that the . Strange Conundrums The strangest part of the story comes about when researchers managed to find one of the surviving Robertson family members. They didn't tell him where they were going. Why was this I wonder. Up until now. Cameron jumped out of the car and ran straight to he house.bay. So they started to drive Cameron there. had photos of the dog and the car that Cameron had seen in his visions. now living in Sterling. But entering the house he stood to one side.

he said. you just come back again'. 'Don't worry about dying. and went into your tummy'. 'How did you get here to me?' He replied. As he grew older Cameron began to lose the memories of Barra.relative in question would have been at the house around about the same time as Cameron in his past life. . When his mother asked him. One of the last things that Cameron mentioned was when he was talking to his friend. happy to know that his mother in this life believed in his story. ' I fell through. After his visit he settled down.