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Los Angeles,CA 90071
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20 CARSON, SCOTT HAGGERTY, THE COI-INTY OF ALAMEDA, and THE COI-INTY

2T OF ALAMEDA BOARD OF SUPERVISORS (collectively "County"), fot themselves

22 alone and for no other defendants,answer Plaintiffs' "Third Amended and/or

23 SupplementalComplaint for Damages,Injunction, and Declaratory Judgment" ("Third

24 Amended Complaint") as follows:

25 1. Answeringparugraph 1, the County admits the allegations.

26 2. Answering paragraph2,the County admits the allegations.

27 3. Answeringparagraph 3, the County admits the allegations.

28 4. Answeringparugraph 4,the County admits the allegations.

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I 5. Answering paragraph5, the County admits the allegations.

2 6. Answering parugraph6, the County admits the allegations.

J 7. Answering paragraph7, the County admits the allegations.

4 8. Answering parugraph8, the County admits and alleges that plaintiffs filed

5 an Amended Complaint or about November 10,1999. Except as expresslyadmittedand

6 alleged herein, the County denieseach and every allegation in paragraph8.


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8 10. Answering parugraph10, the County admits the allegations.

9 11. Answering parugraph11, the County admits and alleges that the Third
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20 19. Answering paragtaph 19, the County denies the allegations.

2l 20. Answering paragraph20, the County denies the allegations.

22 21. Answeringparagraph2l, the County lacks sufficient information or belief

23 to admit or deny the allegationsand, basedthereon,denies each and every allegation.

24 22. Answeringparagraph2z, the County lacks sufficient information or belief

25 to admit or deny the allegations and, basedthereon,denies each and every allegation.

26 23. Answeringparugraphz3, the County lacks sufficient information or belief

27 to admit or deny the allegations and, basedthereon,denies each and every allegation.

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I 24. Answering paragraph24,the Counfy lacks sufficient information or belief

2 to admit or deny the allegationsand, basedthereon,denieseach and every allegation.


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4 to admit or deny the allegationsand, basedthereon,denieseach and every allegation.

5 26. Answeringparagraph2í,the County lacks sufficient information or belief

6 to admit or deny the allegations and, basedthereon, denieseach and every allegation.
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27. Answeringparugraph2T, the County lacks sufficient information or belief
8 to admit or deny the allegations and, basedthereon, denieseach and every allegation.

9 28. AnsweringparagraphzS, the County lacks sufficient information or belief


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l1 29. Answering parugraphZ9,the County admits and allegesthat the United


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20 improper to name individual defendantsin an official capacitylawsuit such as this one.

2l The stateand federal authorities circumscribing the authority of the Board of Supervisors

22 speakfor themselves. Except as expresslyadmitted and alleged herein, the County denies

23 each and every allegation inparagraph3z.

24 33. Answeringparugraph 33, the County admits the allegationscontainedin the

25 f,rrsttwo sentences.The County lacks sufficient information or belief to admit or deny

26 the allegationsin the third sentenceand, basedthereon, denies each and every allegation

27 in that sentence.

28 34. Answerin gparagraph3l,the County admits the allegations.

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I 35. Answering paragraph35, the County admits the allegations containedin the
2 first sentence.The County further admits and allegesthat the applicable Federal,State,
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4 expresslyadmitted and alleged herein, the County denieseach and every allegation in
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6 36. Answering paragraph36,the County deniesthe allegations.


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8 38. Answeringparugraph 38, the County deniesthe allegations.
9 39. Answering parugraph39,the County deniesthe allegations.
10 40. Answeringpara,gfaph40, the County admits the allegations containedin the
11 first sentence. Except as expresslyadmitted herein, the County denies eachand every
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20 speaksfor itself. Except as expresslyadmitted and alleged herein, the Counfy denieseach

2l and every allegation in paragraph42.

22 43. Answeringparagraph 43, the County lacks sufficient information or belief


23 to admit or deny the allegationsand, basedthereon,denies each and every allegationin

24 paragraph43.

25 44. Answeringparagraph 44, the County deniesthe allegations in the first

26 sentence. The County lacks sufficient information or belief to admit or deny the

27 allegationsin the secondsentenceand, basedthereon, denies each and every allegation in

28 the secondsentence.

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I 45. Answering paragrlaph4Í,the County admits and allegesthat TS Trade

2 Shows rentedthe fairgrounds for gun showsbetweentwo and four times ayeaÍ, and there
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4 County further admits and allegesthat grossrevenuesto the Alameda County Fair

5 Associationfor all gun showsannuallywas between$70,000and $80,000. Exceptas

6 expresslyadmitted and alleged herein, the County denieseach and every allegation in
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8 46. Answering paragraph46, the County lacks sufficient information or belief

9 to admit or deny the allegations and, basedthereon,denies each and every allegationin
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11 47. Answering parugraph47, the County lacks sufficient information or belief


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20 50. Answering paragraph50, the County deniesthe allegations.

2l 51. Answeringparagraph51, the Counfy admits and allegesthat metal detectors

22 are used at the County fair. The County further admits and alleges that the referenced

23 Ordinance speaksfor itself. Except as expresslyadmitted and alleged herein, the County

24 deniesthe allegationsin pangraph 51,.

25 52. Answering parugraph 52, theCounty denies the allegations.

26 53. Answeringparagraph 53, the County lacks sufficient information or belief

27 to admit or deny the allegations and, basedthereon, denies each and every allegation in

28 parugraph53.

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1 54. Answeringparagfaph 54, the Counfy deniesthe allegations.
2 55. Answeringparagraph55, the County admitsand allegesthat the Court's
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4 Injunction" speaksfor itself. The County further admits and allegesthat its Ordinance
5 speaksfor itself. Except as expresslyadmitted and allegedherein, the County deniesthe
6 allegationsin paragraph55.

7 56. Answeringparagraph 56, the County lacks sufficient information or belief


8 to admit or deny the allegations and, basedthereon, denieseach and every allegationin

9 paragraph56.

10 57. Answering parugraph57, the County lacks sufficient information or belief


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20 denies eachand every remaining allegation inparagraph 59.

27 60. Answeringparugraph 60, the County admits and alleges that the California

22 Assault WeaponsStatuteand other provisions of California law regarding frrearms,as

23 well as Federalfirearms laws, speak for themselves. The County lacks sufficient

24 information or belief to admit or deny the remaining allegations and, basedthereon,

25 denieseach and every remaining allegation inparugraph 60.

26 61. Answeringparagraph 61, the County lacks sufficient information or belief

27 to admit or deny the allegations in subpart(a) and, basedthereon, denies each and every

28 allegation in that subpart. The County denieseach and every remaining allegation in

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I parugraph61.

2 62. Answering paragraph62, the County admits and allegesthat its Ordinance

3 spealcsfor itself. The County lacks suff,rcientinformation or belief to admit or deny the

4 remaining allegationsand, basedthereon, denieseachand every remaining allegationin


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6 63. Answeringparugaph 63, the County lacks sufficient information or belief

7 to admit or deny the allegationsin subpart (a) and, basedthereon, denies eachandevery

8 allegation in that subpart. The County denieseachand every remaining allegation in

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20 allegations and, basedthereon, denies each and every remaining allegation in paragraph

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22 67. Answeringparagraph6T,the County admitsand allegesthat its Ordinance


23 speaksfor itself. The County lacks sufficient information or belief to admit or deny the

24 remaining allegationsand, basedthereon, denieseach and every remaining allegation in

25 parugraph 67.

26 68. Answeringparagaph 68, the County deniesthe allegations.

27 69. Answeringparagraph 69, the County deniesthe allegations.

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I 70. Answering paragraph70, theCounty repeatsand incorporatesby this
2 reference parugraphs1 through69, inclusive, of this Answer.

3 71. Answering paragraphTl, theCountydeniesthe allegations.


4 72. Answering paragraph72, theCounty deniesthe allegations.
5 73. Answering paragraphT3,the County deniesthe allegations.
6 74. Answering paragraph74,the County lacks suff,rcientinformation or belief
7 to admit or deny the allegationsand, basedthereon,denieseach and every allegation in

8 parugraph74.

9 75. AnsweringparugraphTs,the County deniesthe allegations.


10 76. AnsweringparugraphTí, the County admits and allegesthat its Ordinance
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20 82. Answering parugraphSZ,the Counfy deniesthe allegations.


2l 83. Answering paragraphS3,the County deniesthe allegations.
22 84. AnsweringparagraphS4,the County deniesthe allegations.
23 85. Answeringparagtaph85, the County deniesthe allegations.
24 86. Answeringparagraph 86, the County admits and alleges that its Ordinance
25 speaksfor itself. The County lacks sufficient information or belief to admit or deny the

26 allegations regarding Mr. Heston, Mr. Kerry, and military ceremonies,and basedthereon,

27 denies those allegations. The County denieseachand every remaining allegation in

28 paragraph86.

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1 87. County repeatsand incorporatesby this
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2 referenceparugraphs1 through 86, inclusive, of this Answer.


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4 jurisdictions outside of Alameda County speak for themselves. Except as expressly

5 admitted and alleged herein, the County deniesthe allegationsin paragraph88.

6 89. Answeringparaglaph89, the County deniesthe allegations.

7 90. Answering paragaphg0,.the County admits and allegesthat the possession

8 of firearms is permitted to occur pursuantto the exceptionslisted in the Ordinance. The

9 County further admits and allegesthat fireanns possessionis permitted during the
i l 10 Scottish Gamespursuantto the exceptionslisted in Section 9.12.120(9) of the Ordinance

11 Code of the County. The County specifically deniesthat firearms possessionhas ever
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20 93. Answering paragraph93, the County deniesthe allegations.

2l 94. Answeringparagraphg{, the County deniesthe allegations.

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24 95. The Third Amended Complaint fails to statea claim upon which relief may

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2 96. jurisdictionoverthe state
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6 97. Plaintiffsarebarredfrom obtaininganyrelief by their failureto exhaust
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( : 10 98. The Court has already determinedin its Order filed February 14,2005 that it

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20 99. Defendantsare informed and believe and thereuponallege that the damages

2L alleged in the Third Amended Complaint, if anythere were, were proximately and

22 actuaLlycausedby the voluntary actions or omissionsof plaintiffs, and not by any actions

23 or omissions of the defendants,and plaintifß are therefore barred from recovering money

24 damagesagainst defendants.

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27 100. Defendantsareinformedandbelieveandthereuponallegethat the damages
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1 actually causedby the voluntary actions or omissionsof third parties, and not by any

2 actionsor omissionsof defendants,and plaintiffs are therefore barred from recovering


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6 101. Defendantsare informed and believe and thereuponallege that plaintiffs'

7 own fault of the fault of third parties proximately and legally causedand contributedto

8 the damages,if an¡ thatplaintifß suffered,andplaintiffs'recoveryherein, if any,should

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2T 104. Defendantsareinformedandbelieveandthereuponallegethatplaintiffs,by
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I WHEREFORE, defendantspray that plaintiffs take nothing by their Third
2 Amended Complaint, and that defendantsbe awardedtheir costsof suit, including
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DATED:August2,2005 RICHARD E. WINNIE
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I PROOF OF SERVICE

2 I, Sylvia Dickerson, declare:


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not aparty to the within action; my businessaddressis Richards, & Gershon,355 S.
4 Grand Avenue,Los Angeles,Califomia 90071-3101. On August 2,2005,I servedthe within
documents:
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6 n by causing facsimile transmissionof the document(s)listed abovefrom


(213) 626-8484 to the person(s)and facsimile number(s) set forth below on this
7 date before 5:00 P.M. This transmissionwas reported as complete and without
error. A copy of the transmissionreport(s), which was properly issuedby the
8 transmitting facsimile machine, is attached. Service by facsimile hasbeen made
pursuant to a prior written agreementbetween the parties.
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a by placing the document(s)listed above in a sealedenvelopewith postagethereon
l0 fully prepaid, in the United Statesmail at Los Angeles, California, addressedas
set forth below. I am readily familiar with the firm's practice for collection and
11 processingcorrespondencefor mailing with the United StatesPostal Service.
Under that practice, it would be depositedwith the U.S. Postal Serviceon that
12 sameday with postagethereon fully prepaid in the ordinary courseof business. I
atrl awarethat on motion of the party served, service is presumedinvalid if postal
13 cancellation date or postagemeter date is more than one day after dateof deposit
for mailing contained in this affidavit.
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n by placing the document(s)listed above in a sealedFederal Expressenvelopeand
15 affixing a pre-paid Federal Expressair bill, and causingthe envelopeto be
delivered to a Federal Expressagent for delivery, or depositedin a box or other
T6 facility regularly maintainedby Federal Express, in an envelopeor package
designatedby the expressservice earner,with delivery feespaid or provided for,
t7 addressedto the person(s)at the address(es)set forth below.

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i'.i Donald E.J. Kilmer, Jr. Raymond MacKay, Esq.
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Law Offices of Donald Kilmer County of Alameda
1261 Lincoln Avenue, Suite 1l I County Counsel Office
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San Jose,California 95125-3030 l22l Oak Street, Suite 463
Oakland, California 946 | 2429 6
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22 I declare under penaþ of pe{ury under the laws of the State of California and the
United Statesof America that the above is true and correct.
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Executedon August2,2005,at Los Angeles,California.
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25 Svlvia Dickerson

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