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I am working with a telescopic cylinder assembly model subjected to axial and moment load in its extended state. The hollow cylinders overlap each other over a length of 1" in the extended state. One end of the cylinder is fixed and other end is free. Moment / Force is applied at the free end. My aim is to use constraint equations to transfer load between parts instead of contacts. The reason for this is, at a later stage there will be a pressure load separating the overlapping areas. I have looked up help files for C onstraint Equations in Ansys 12.1 and created my model. I have outlined my approach in the following bullet points. * imported model in Ansys 12.1. * deleted automatically generated contacts. * created remote points for overlapping areas.If I understand this right what is being done here is the areas linked to remote points are connected by rigid elements (creating spiders). * applied constraint equations to the two remote points in all directions. * applied force / moment on one end and fixed the other end of the assembly. * solved the problem and checked for reactions. * I have also uploaded the files (geometry + workbench cleaned file) on "http://www.4shared.com/file/AmLnh_BQ/test.html" It would be very helpful to know if this is an acceptable way to apply constraint equations in ansys workbench 12.1. I wanted to make use of the tools available in workbench. Thanks, Sourabh. Kulkarni. FEA Engineer. Ingenium Technologies. 4216, Maray Drive, Rockford, IL - 61107. Email: Sourabh.Kulkarni@ingeniumtech.com

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p. The remote points act as pilot nodes in the old Ansys jargon. This will cause the outer cylinder to bulge outward and inner cylinder to sag inwards near the contact interface. If I keep the remote point definition rigid then this behavior will not be seen.61107.xansys. Rockford. I want to keep my model simple by using the above approach and I want to keep the model linear.testi@piaggio.php?p=80210&sid=73260abcaac33fd072ff4648acc89d5c 2/9 . Maray Drive. However that will show mean high stresses in the thread geometry. There is a reason for setting the remote points deformable. Best regards Riccardo Testi --POWERTRAIN and ENGINEERING ENGINE DESIGN and C ALC ULATIONS Piaggio & C . 25 56025 Pontedera (Pisa) . Thanks for the reply again. 2011 6:19 am Dear Ricardo. Did you set it that way on purpose? As far as I know.com ************************************************************* Sourabh. the remote points are translated into constraint equations before submitting the model to the solver: there should be no spiderwebs of beams. Apart from the remote points' behavior.kulkarni Use r Poste d: Tue Fe b 15. I need to include a pressure load at the interface between the overlapping areas of the cylinder assembly. IL .com www. S.Kulkarni@ingeniumtech.12/23/13 XANSYS ~ View topic . FEA Engineer.ITALY Phone: +39 0587 272850 Fax: +39 0587 272010 Mobile: +39 339 7241918 E-mail: riccardo.org/forum/viewtopic. I think your procedure is correct. I can as well use a bonded contact between the two bodies. 4216. Ingenium Technologies. your remote points' behavior is deformable.A Viale Rinaldo Piaggio. Email: Sourabh. Joine d: 05 Fe b 2009 Posts: 8 Thanks for the reply.Applying Constraint Equations in Workbench 12. Suite A1.1 Back to top sourabh. In other words what I am trying to do is simulate a threaded joint of telescopic cylinder assembly subjected to axial load that also takes into account the effect of thread flare pressure. The ideal way of simulating this is to include threads in the geometry. Sourabh Kulkarni.

1. * created remote points for overlapping areas.kulkarni Inviato: lunedì 14 febbraio 2011 20. One end of the cylinder is fixed and other end is free.1 and created my model. I am working with a telescopic cylinder assembly model subjected to axial and moment load in its extended state.org] Per conto di sourabh.Kulkarni@ingeniumtech. * I have also uploaded the files (geometry + workbench cleaned file) on "http://www. 4216. The hollow cylinders overlap each other over a length of 1" in the extended state.org [mailto:xansys-bounces@xansys.Applying Constraint Equations in Workbench 12.1 Dear Ansys users. Joine d: 05 Fe b 2009 www.com/file/AmLnh_BQ/test.07 A: xansys@xansys.org/forum/viewtopic. My aim is to use constraint equations to transfer load between parts instead of contacts. at a later stage there will be a pressure load separating the overlapping areas.kulkarni Use r Poste d: Tue Fe b 15.xansys. Sourabh.php?p=80210&sid=73260abcaac33fd072ff4648acc89d5c 3/9 . Moment / Force is applied at the free end. I have looked up help files for C onstraint Equations in Ansys 12.org Oggetto: [Xansys] Applying C onstraint Equations in Workbench 12.4shared. Rockford. Ingenium Technologies. * applied force / moment on one end and fixed the other end of the assembly. IL . I wanted to make use of the tools available in workbench. The reason for this is. * applied constraint equations to the two remote points in all directions.1. FEA Engineer. * solved the problem and checked for reactions. Kulkarni. I have outlined my approach in the following bullet points. Email: Sourabh.html" It would be very helpful to know if this is an acceptable way to apply constraint equations in ansys workbench 12. Thanks. 2011 6:20 am Dear Riccardo.12/23/13 XANSYS ~ View topic .If I understand this right what is being done here is the areas linked to remote points are connected by rigid elements (creating spiders). * deleted automatically generated contacts. Maray Drive.com Back to top sourabh. * imported model in Ansys 12.1 -----Messaggio originale----Da: xansys-bounces@xansys.61107.

Kulkarni@ingeniumtech.Applying Constraint Equations in Workbench 12. Apart from the remote points' behavior. However that will show mean high stresses in the thread geometry. This will cause the outer cylinder to bulge outward and inner cylinder to sag inwards near the contact interface. IL . Did you set it that way on purpose? As far as I know.org [mailto:xansys-bounces@xansys. Email: Sourabh.12/23/13 XANSYS ~ View topic . I can as well use a bonded contact between the two bodies. If I keep the remote point definition rigid then this behavior will not be seen. Thanks for the reply again. Ingenium Technologies. S. Suite A1.org] www. Best regards Riccardo Testi --POWERTRAIN and ENGINEERING ENGINE DESIGN and C ALC ULATIONS Piaggio & C . Maray Drive. Rockford. I need to include a pressure load at the interface between the overlapping areas of the cylinder assembly.xansys.testi@piaggio.com ************************************************************* Sourabh. 25 56025 Pontedera (Pisa) .1 Posts: 8 Thanks for the reply. There is a reason for setting the remote points deformable. The ideal way of simulating this is to include threads in the geometry.p.org/forum/viewtopic. 4216.ITALY Phone: +39 0587 272850 Fax: +39 0587 272010 Mobile: +39 339 7241918 E-mail: riccardo.A Viale Rinaldo Piaggio.com -----Messaggio originale----Da: xansys-bounces@xansys.php?p=80210&sid=73260abcaac33fd072ff4648acc89d5c 4/9 . the remote points are translated into constraint equations before submitting the model to the solver: there should be no spiderwebs of beams. I think your procedure is correct.61107. your remote points' behavior is deformable. The remote points act as pilot nodes in the old Ansys jargon. Sourabh Kulkarni. I want to keep my model simple by using the above approach and I want to keep the model linear. In other words what I am trying to do is simulate a threaded joint of telescopic cylinder assembly subjected to axial load that also takes into account the effect of thread flare pressure. FEA Engineer.

com/file/AmLnh_BQ/test. I wanted to make use of the tools available in workbench. Thanks. Maray Drive.org Oggetto: [Xansys] Applying C onstraint Equations in Workbench 12. www.kulkarni Use r Poste d: Tue Fe b 15.61107. Sourabh. 4216. * applied force / moment on one end and fixed the other end of the assembly.Applying Constraint Equations in Workbench 12.Kulkarni@ingeniumtech.07 A: xansys@xansys.html" It would be very helpful to know if this is an acceptable way to apply constraint equations in ansys workbench 12. Joine d: 05 Fe b 2009 Posts: 8 Thanks for the replies. * deleted automatically generated contacts.1 Per conto di sourabh. * I have also uploaded the files (geometry + workbench cleaned file) on "http://www. 2011 7:14 am Dear Joseph and Riccardo. The reason for this is. The hollow cylinders overlap each other over a length of 1" in the extended state.1.kulkarni Inviato: lunedì 14 febbraio 2011 20. * applied constraint equations to the two remote points in all directions. at a later stage there will be a pressure load separating the overlapping areas.1. Moment / Force is applied at the free end. Rockford. * created remote points for overlapping areas.12/23/13 XANSYS ~ View topic .php?p=80210&sid=73260abcaac33fd072ff4648acc89d5c 5/9 .1 Dear Ansys users.xansys. * solved the problem and checked for reactions. I have looked up help files for C onstraint Equations in Ansys 12. Ingenium Technologies.1 and created my model. FEA Engineer. Your inputs have been very helpful. Email: Sourabh. I have outlined my approach in the following bullet points. One end of the cylinder is fixed and other end is free.If I understand this right what is being done here is the areas linked to remote points are connected by rigid elements (creating spiders). IL . Kulkarni. I am working with a telescopic cylinder assembly model subjected to axial and moment load in its extended state.org/forum/viewtopic. * imported model in Ansys 12. My aim is to use constraint equations to transfer load between parts instead of contacts.4shared.com Back to top sourabh.

xansys. Maray Drive.org/forum/viewtopic. please delete the message and immediately notify the sender via the contact information listed above. but not both.S.fttinc. Rockford.Applying Constraint Equations in Workbench 12. Sourabh Kulkarni. 4216.Kulkarni@ingeniumtech.org/forum | | XANSYS blog .fttinc.com *********************************************************** Sourabh.1 Best regards.www. Email: Sourabh.61107. Suite A1. you are hereby notified that any dissemination. If you received this communication in error. there is no reason why you can't use contact elements instead of C E's with pressure loads on the mating faces. Just be careful to apply the pressures to either the underlying solids. Ingenium Technologies. IL .com Visit our new website: www. at a later stage there will be >a pressure load separating the overlapping areas. Joseph T Metrisin Structures Lead Florida Turbine Technologies. or the contact elements. Suite 110 Jupiter. The reason for this is.com FTT's public email encryption keys are stored on the FTT Verified Directory at http://keys.A. FL 33458 U. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient.php?p=80210&sid=73260abcaac33fd072ff4648acc89d5c 6/9 . FEA Engineer. Going back to your original post.xansys.blogspot. Inc 1701 Military Tr. distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited.12/23/13 XANSYS ~ View topic . ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+-------------------------------------------------------------+ | XANSYS web . >My aim is to use constraint equations to transfer load between parts >instead of contacts. (561)427-6346 Office (561)427-6191 Fax JMetrisin@fttinc.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------C onfidentiality Note: The information contained in this transmission and any attachments are proprietary and may be privileged.xansys. intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above.com | www.

The remote points act as pilot nodes in the old Ansys jargon. The ideal way of simulating this is to include threads in the geometry.Kulkarni@ingeniumtech. Software | | Hosted by PADT . Ingenium Technologies. Thanks for the reply again. 25 56025 Pontedera (Pisa) .uk | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ *********************************************************** Dear Ricardo. S.com ************************************************************* Sourabh. There is a reason for setting the remote points deformable. 4216.xansys.co. I want to keep my model simple by using the above approach and I want to keep the model linear. FEA Engineer.www.1 | The Online C ommunity for users of ANSYS.php?p=80210&sid=73260abcaac33fd072ff4648acc89d5c 7/9 . I can as well use a bonded contact between the two bodies.12/23/13 XANSYS ~ View topic .padtinc. Thanks for the reply. Sourabh Kulkarni.61107. I think your procedure is correct. In other words what I am trying to do is simulate a threaded joint of telescopic cylinder assembly subjected to axial load that also takes into account the effect of thread flare pressure. Rockford. IL .org/forum/viewtopic.A Viale Rinaldo Piaggio. Suite A1. your remote points' behavior is deformable. This will cause the outer cylinder to bulge outward and inner cylinder to sag inwards near the contact interface.com | | Send administrative requests to xansys-mod@tynecomp.ITALY Phone: +39 0587 272850 Fax: +39 0587 272010 www. the remote points are translated into constraint equations before submitting the model to the solver: there should be no spiderwebs of beams.Applying Constraint Equations in Workbench 12. Did you set it that way on purpose? As far as I know. Maray Drive. However that will show mean high stresses in the thread geometry. I need to include a pressure load at the interface between the overlapping areas of the cylinder assembly. Email: Sourabh. If I keep the remote point definition rigid then this behavior will not be seen. Apart from the remote points' behavior. Inc. Best regards Riccardo Testi --POWERTRAIN and ENGINEERING ENGINE DESIGN and C ALC ULATIONS Piaggio & C .p.

1.If I understand this right what is being done here is the areas linked to remote points are connected by rigid elements (creating spiders). Email: Sourabh. at a later stage there will be a pressure load separating the overlapping areas.php?p=80210&sid=73260abcaac33fd072ff4648acc89d5c 8/9 .com/file/AmLnh_BQ/test. * applied constraint equations to the two remote points in all directions. My aim is to use constraint equations to transfer load between parts instead of contacts.1 and created my model. 4216.07 A: xansys@xansys.org Oggetto: [Xansys] Applying C onstraint Equations in Workbench 12. * created remote points for overlapping areas. * I have also uploaded the files (geometry + workbench cleaned file) on "http://www. The reason for this is. Sourabh. I have outlined my approach in the following bullet points. I have looked up help files for C onstraint Equations in Ansys 12.Applying Constraint Equations in Workbench 12. Ingenium Technologies. Moment / Force is applied at the free end.1 Dear Ansys users.html" It would be very helpful to know if this is an acceptable way to apply constraint equations in ansys workbench 12. The hollow cylinders overlap each other over a length of 1" in the extended state. IL .kulkarni Inviato: lunedì 14 febbraio 2011 20.testi@piaggio. * deleted automatically generated contacts.org/forum/viewtopic. I wanted to make use of the tools available in workbench. * applied force / moment on one end and fixed the other end of the assembly.4shared. * imported model in Ansys 12.1. Maray Drive.61107. FEA Engineer.com -----Messaggio originale----Da: xansys-bounces@xansys. One end of the cylinder is fixed and other end is free. Rockford. Thanks.Kulkarni@ingeniumtech.12/23/13 XANSYS ~ View topic . * solved the problem and checked for reactions.xansys.org [mailto:xansys-bounces@xansys.org] Per conto di sourabh. I am working with a telescopic cylinder assembly model subjected to axial and moment load in its extended state.1 Mobile: +39 339 7241918 E-mail: riccardo. Kulkarni.com www.

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