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The Sri Jagannath Center is a traditional school of Vedic astrology that meets informally for the study of Vedic philosophy and Jyotish. The opening lecture of Vyasa SJC California was taught by Paramguru Pandit Sanjay Rath of Puri Orrisa. Downloadable audio available here. 01 Intro to the Lineage 02 Hare Rama Krsna 03 Guna Introduction 04 Creation according to Parashara 05 Bhu Loka, Atma 06 Avatars 07 Matsya 08 Sukara, Brith, Pranapada 09 Vamana 10 Parasurama 11 Ramakrsna 12 Kurma 13 Narasimha, Veda Murtis 14 Buddha, Kalki 15 Four Paramatmamsa Avatars 16 Intro to Gunas 17 Gunas and Grahas/Rasis 18 Four types of Guna, Uttama 19 Madhyama, Adhana, Udasina 20 Dynamic Gunas 21 Guna and Varnada Lagna 22 Upaya 23 Mantra Shastra Recorded and Edited by Eric Rosenbush Transcription by Kathy Hansen (#01-13) , and Sue Ann McKean (#16-22)

01 Introduction to the Lineage
So we come to the first Vyasa SJC class of the west coast. This was a dream that one day we would start this class. I knew that if SJC has to take off in the US in a

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proper way it has to be over here. Normally in the SJCs around the world we name it after a Rishi. So the person who is to normally assure that the classes go on, one of my students, he is given the choice of choosing the name of a Rishi that he likes very much, and Freedom wanted that we started this Vyasa SJC. The important thing about these classes, number one: First, I will give a brief synopsis of what we are doing and why we are doing it. And then we will discuss about why and how we should do it before we go into the actual first class. So, first, the classes are free, right Freedom? We will keep it that way. Good. Let’s be very clear on it. The classes are free. Nobody has to pay anybody anything for coming to these classes. These classes basically are meant to share knowledge. OK? Guru is anybody who is saying something, shishya is anybody who is listening to the knowledge. Some people do not like people walking in a row. Some people are ahead of others, that’s all. Guru is not God. Guru is not a diksha guru. That means he is not somebody who is taking you toward spirituality. He is not a spiritual master. Let’s be very clear on that. He has no right to be a spiritual master. The Jyotish guru has no right to be a spiritual master. I am very, very clear on that. It’s free because if it is not free the teacher will be very restricted in his teaching. That is the reason why it used to be free in the tradition. It was always free. So that I can speak freely. I’m not thinking that I’ve crossed an hour or two hours or three hours. There is no restriction. I’m free to speak my mind. Complete and total freedom because there is no money involved over there in the first place. That is the reason why it was free. If it is not free that freedom will not be there. You lose out on the freedom. A restriction comes up. That is the reason why the teaching in the tradition was always kept free. Now the reciprocation was in the form of dakshina so that the students were then sure that the teacher never went without food. He always had his basic needs fulfilled. There were some who were richer and some who were poorer, they would give based on their means. But in the modern world that doesn’t happen. So, if we are going to have a course in the future as we have planned, it is natural that some students who will expect to take the course and who will take a degree from the course or things like, Willa is working on that, will probably pay for the course, right? But we will try to keep it as reasonable as possible. But that is a different area from these classes. Just because you are coming for the classes it doesn’t mean you have to take the course. We have to be really clear on that also, it’s purely optional. I am hoping that this group can grow into a very nice friendship circle on Jyotish. It is all about friendship, nobody is anybody’s superior, OK? Now the tradition. The tradition traces itself back in Orissa to Chaitanya Mahaprabhu. It is said that the tradition lineage had some hardships and things have gone down very much in Orissa after all kinds of invasions and wars and all that we had. So Chaitanya Mahaprabhu revived it. Now that is the first important statement: that Chaitanya Mahaprabhu has revived the tradition. Now when we say that Chaitanya Mahaprabhu has revived the tradition the question is who gave him the authority to revive the tradition? Who is he who can revive the tradition? For this the authority we get is from Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra, the chapter on avatars which we will be doing today. And why did he revive it? How did he revive it? How did he go about it is one issue. Anyway it came down through a disciple of his called Achyuta. And this person’s father, this person Achyuta, was a shudra by birth and became a brahmin by karma. Isn’t that fascinating? It is clearly mentioned in his book that I was a shudra because my father’s profession was a shudra and I was upgraded to a brahmin because of my karma. So that means that even at the time of Chaitanya Mahaprabhu caste was

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not hard and fast. It all depended upon what you were working, what you were doing. So we will go into caste today also a little bit because we have to understand gunas. Guna is very important so today’s discussion is going to be about gunas also. These are the foundation of Jyotish. The tradition then went on. Went on from student, teacher, and the tradition was completely centered around the Konark Temple. Not the Jagannath Temple. The main temple around which our tradition is centered is the Konark Temple, the Sun Temple. Astrologers through ages have been Sun worshippers. Whether it was the great Varahamira or it was the Ra worshippers of Egypt, over centuries they have been the Sun worshippers, all astrologers. And if you see the Patanjali’s Yoga Sutra there also you get to know that if you wish to know the movement of the planets and to know about the future of mankind you have to meditate on the Sun. So undoubtedly they used to worship the Sun God Surya and from there they got the knowledge. So the tradition was revolving around the temple. Naturally the biggest blow to the tradition came when the Muslim invasion came and they completely bombarded and broke the temple. So naturally they completely devastated the temple. And then they were going towards Puri to break the Puri temple but the astrologers of the king’s court of Puri were far smarter than the Mughal king. They were far too intelligent, must have been my forefathers. He said it is stupid to fight these bums; they are coming with cannons, you can’t fight them. You need brains to fight them; these people don’t have brains, you can be sure of it. So what they did was put lime on top of the temple and when the Muslim invaders came, instead of running with guns and swords toward them, the people welcomed them with flowers, saying come in come in. They were shocked so they said, OK, they are giving up without a fight. So they said we want to break the temple. They said “Why? It is made of lime, it will fall down anyway.” They looked at it and went and poked it and things like that. They said it is made of lime; they are fools to build this thing of lime. What kind of fools are they? They left and went away. The temple stands today. So who was a fool and who was intelligent? So that was the thing, so the tradition sort of went down after that. And then the British came to India and naturally when they see a beautiful piece of art it must be a part of the British Museum. That is their tradition. So I had the pleasure this time, you know I used to pray that I do not wish to die on this planet without seeing the Sun God. I wanted to see him with my own eyes, to behold him with my own eyes, the statue that must have been worshipped by my gurus, and gurus and the whole tradition. And this time I was so fortunate that on my way while in London we went to the British Museum and very beautifully the entire statue of the Sun God is there in all its glory, well-maintained, put in a glass cage. Q. “Is it the original one?” Sanjay: “Yes.” When I looked at it, there were two conditions I told Sarbani. I will look at it and I will know it will be from there. It will be black stone, shining, so well-polished that some of the best machines today can’t so well polish it. And he will be wearing boots. The Sun God wore boots, that means there was at that point of time a culture in which people wore shoes in that country. And not only that the navagrahas which were worshipped are also there beautifully kept in the British Museum but not in the main room, it’s in the upper room, they have been kept in a separate thing, hidden away. If you can find it then go and see; it is exquisite. So replicas of that are now kept near Konark and the prayers and the pujas continue in Orissa. What would the astrologers do? Someone took it away. You can’t do anything. You have to make your own little duplicates and continue with that. So the tradition continues. The thing is nobody could steal your knowledge. That is what I am going to say. They broke the temple, they took home the statues,

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and carted all kinds of collections. Almost you can’t imagine what kind of statues. In one temple in which almost every statue is there in the British Museum. The first day I went there it was like a shock for me. And the second day I went in there and then a thought came to me. Oh, God has been kind. If it was not preserved by the British who knows which Maharaja would have stolen it away, because today the maharajas have become plunderers. So in a way it was kind of the British to keep our things for us. OK, so the knowledge continues, and what I want to say is that the knowledge cannot be stolen. That was the essence of what I was trying to tell you of. Nobody can steal your knowledge. Nobody. It is up to you to give it to whom you wish to give it. If the person who is taking the knowledge, if his heart is not open for the knowledge, he will not keep the knowledge, even if you wish to give it. So it is very important to come for the learning with an open heart. The mind will get energized by itself if your heart is open to the knowledge. That is why the entire effort of the tradition was to meditate on the heart chakra. The meditation is on the heart chakra not on the mind chakra. The real meditation is always on the heart chakra, because if the heart is not open to something nothing is absorbed. So the question is how to change your heart.

02 Hare Rama Krishna
Now we will start with a small mantra of the tradition. The tradition always starts with a prayer to Vishnu, always with a prayer to Vishnu. Suryanarayan Vishnu. Why Vishnu? We will come to that also into this class. This is the dhyana of the Vishnu Sahasranam. Dhyana means meditation. The dhyana or the meditation of Vishnu Sahasranam which is supposed to bring sattva guna within us. What is sattva guna? We will study that also today. OK, will you repeat this after me. om çäntäkäraà bhujagaçayanaà padmanäbhaà sureçaà viçvädhäraà gaganasadåçaà meghavarëaà çubhäìgam | lakçmékäntaà kamalanayanaà yogibhirdhyänagamyaà vande viñëuà bhavabhayaharaà sarvalokaikanätham ||
AUM shaantaakaaraM bhujagashayanaM padmanaabhaM sureshaM vishvaadhaaraM gaganasadR^ishaM meghavarNaM shubhaaN^gam.h . lakshmiikaantaM kamalanayanaM yogibhirdhyaanagamyaM vande vishhNuM bhavabhayaharaM sarvalokaikanaatham.h ..

And then three times you have to say Vishnu, Vishnu, Vishnu like this. Firstly on your book, on any book whose knowledge you want. Say Vishnu. On your head where the guru sits. Vishnu. And then on the heart chakra. Vishnu. This is very important. Any book. These three words, Vishnu, Vishnu, Vishnu were the first words taught to me by my mother. My grandfather had been very clear about it that these three words had to be taught to him. Vishnu, Vishnu, Vishnu. There are three because there are bhu, bhuvaha and swaha. The first object is knowledge and then the guru and then the heart where the knowledge must stay. The knowledge must ultimately come to your soul. If it does not come to the soul level the knowledge is not yours. It will go away after sometime. After ten years if you don’t practice you will forget it. Who knows the next birth you will not remember a single word. If you want the knowledge to stay with you birth after birth only one thing can insure that it is never destroyed and that is sattva guna. And sattva guna comes from the name of Vishnu. So that’s the object from where you want the knowledge. That is your guru pitha, that is the head where the guru sits. And then your heart where your atma sits. Vishnu, Vishnu, Vishnu. The knowledge is yours. This is an important part of the tradition. OK? Now there is a mantra which we all do in the morning as soon as we wake up. Many of you have started practicing it. This mantra is supposed to remove hatred from within you. Hatred is the biggest stumbling block to learning. Hatred or aversion towards anything is the biggest stumbling block. You can never learn anything so long as you have anger and hatred within you. You must let go of this

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hatred, you must forgive the anger, you must let is pass, so that your mind is not dwelling all the time on other things which are wasting your life. The mantra is a simple shadakshari or six akshara mantra. Six akshara mantras are mantras which remove your own evils. Any six akshara mantra, any six syllable mantra, will remove your own weaknesses, will remove evils within you. They are meant to cleanse the sixth house, which is your own shadripus, your own weaknesses. The mantra is Hare Rama Krishna. Hare Rama Krishna. Now you can understand the meaning of the mantra from the three words. Hare, Rama and Krishna. Why Hare Rama Krishna? What is the meaning of Hare? As the sound Hara refers to Shiva. That means it is auspicious. Hara refers to the Self. That is me. The Self in its highest manifestation is Shiva. We will come to that part one day when we study Atmakaraka, because you are none other than Shiva himself. Shivoham: I am Shiva. So Hara is me or Shiva at its highest manifestation. Rama is the guru and there are so many forms of the guru. Multiple forms. Do not restrict your mind to think that there is only one teacher. If you do so your learning will be lopsided. No single teacher can claim the position of God. Don’t do that because you will block your own mind. There are multiple teachers you have to learn from. There are hundreds of teachers you have to learn so many things from. When you were kids you learned to go to the toilet because of your mother. She’s your first teacher. Do not disrespect her because you would be disrespecting your teacher. Similarly when as a little baby you take your first spiritual step it is the mother who is going to guide you and it is that mother, the Divine Mother, just as in this physical world you learn to use the toilet because of your mother, so also will you learn to take your first step in the spiritual world through your Divine Mother. That is called Hara. And then Rama the guru. So guru can come in many ways. Some nice sources to read about the guru is the Avadhuta Gita, the Srimad Bhagavatam where Krishna explains the different types of gurus. When he was talking about the Avadhuta Brahmana. There are 24 kinds of gurus that he talks about. And then we talk of God. God is He who attracts you. That’s all. Akarshana . The word is akarshana or he to whom you are attracted. If you are not attracted to Him or if you are repelled by Him or Her or whatever object or anybody with knowledge then that is not God for you. God is He who is protecting you. If He cannot protect you then he is not God. So God can come in multiple forms. He can be without form. It all depends upon his function. Based upon his function we are trying to define Him. We say God is Shiva. Why? Because He is the strongest. He is the omnipotent, the strongest one. God is Vishnu. Why? Because he is feeding you all the time. And He’s everywhere. He’s in the tree, He’s your God, He’s my God, He’s everybody’s God. Omnipresent. Omnipresence means Vishnu. The word Vishnu means sarvavyapakeshwara . It is not a name it’s a word. It has become a name when you label it on somebody. Any word becomes a name when you label somebody with that name. So the word Vishnu simply means sarvavyapakeswara . He who is everywhere. It simply means that. It simply means God who is everywhere. Similarly Shiva means auspicious. He who is auspicious is strong, so He is omnipotent. The word Brahma means he who has created everything. He who has created everything knows everything about his creation. Let’s say you make tea. Then you know everything about this tea. You know exactly what has gone inside it and what is there in it. How much of sugar, how much of tea, how much of milk; you know it because you have made it. Similarly, the one who has created you knows everything about you. That is Brahma the all-knowing, omniscient. So Brahma is not a God, it is a name of God, one of the names of God. We differentiate God on the basis of our ignorance, our rajas, otherwise they are different names. You call me Gurudev, somebody calls me Guruji, somebody calls me Sanjay, somebody calls me Kamu, somebody calls me so many names. I am one and the same person. Similarly there are so many names for God, and there are many different manifestations of that which we like. Akarshana, that aspect of God which we like. What I am only telling you is to broaden your minds. Do not become

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is what we define as God. the giver of knowledge. So definitely we have to understand what is attracting whom. Vishnu has a thousand names. By saying Rama you get to know and understand your guru. allowing the world to be nice to us. And hence the name Krishna. But it is advised that you start doing it. And that definition of God is very personal. We find time to do good things for others. To learn Jyotish you must realize that people will be born throughout this world in various different parts. And this is what you need to find out. if it is a Vedic science. If you are narrow-minded you cannot learn Jyotish. And what is attracting you is Krishna because he is attracting you. let’s say. and when knowledge is at such a high level then only can you call on Kali the remover of ignorance.htm narrow-minded. with various different languages. this is the greatest attribute of us. Limited applicability is not acceptable. Wake up and start doing it. You will take shelter in Him. That taking shelter. taking shelter. It is just that what is attracting you. This is a prasiddha mantra. Through Rama you will have knowledge from the guru. How much energy is required to even shake hands with people. The world will become nice to us because we are nice to the world. over a period of time. It cannot be so. In an organization. We lose hatred for everybody. If there is a purpose you will know the purpose through Hare Rama Krishna. By doing that. how much affection she has got. you do not need anybody to give you this mantra. So Hare Rama Krishna is very important. If Jyotish is a Vedic science. Akarsha. So with Hare you will have self-realization. we will evolve and change and we become more calm. 6 of 50 19/06/2008 2:57 PM . by anybody who speaks it. you will feel so protected by Him. When you have knowledge there is no place for hatred. And when you know these three things your purpose in this world is found. ashraya. Whether you need a diksha for this mantra? No. every morning. day by day. Why? Because for a thousand people Vishnu is in a thousand different names. It cannot only apply to one group of people and not apply to another group of people. If it is a science. So the mantra is Hare Rama Krishna and we are required to recite this mantra in the morning after waking up. forget hugging thousands and thousands. The day you know about it then there is no hatred left. what is it that attracts you. And with Krishna you will know what is it that you came for. And how do you find out? By saying Hare Rama Krishna. You haven’t come into this world to walk around and do something and go away.com/VyasaSJC/OpeningLecture.Vyasa SJC Guna and Das Avatar lecture http://shrifreedom.” Their definition of Krishna even within the organization will be totally different because they are different human beings.” “ Om Vishnave Namah. By saying Krishna you get to know what is it that is attracting you. and we say it is a Vedic science. So Hare Rama Krishna will always guide you. it has to be universally applicable. Even in an organization. That is the meaning of it. You see that? That’s what they say in Vishnusahasranam. It is very different from one human being to another. Hatred and knowledge cannot exist simultaneously. somebody will say “I like Krishna” and another person will say “I like Krishna.” These are prasiddha. There must be a purpose for which you came. You hate something because you do not know about it. It removes hatred because from knowledge hatred will always go away. you do not need any diksha for this mantra. it must be universally applicable. Or in other words. (To a student) You have spent a long time with Ammachi. It all depends on what you are expecting from Him. Right? So unless somebody has knowledge how can someone expel all hatred from their heart? To love so. You must recite it. The other prasiddha mantras are like “Om Namah Shivaya. right? You see how much love she has got for everybody. The mantra will fructify at any time. The way in which God attracts you. Prasiddha mantras are those mantras for which you do not need a diksha. We don’t allow the world to be nice to us. like ISKON. And we have to go toward what attracts us and then we will get the knowledge from that. By saying Hare you get to know about yourself. of course if you can get a diksha there’s nothing like it. The name Krishna has come from akarshana the power to attract. Do you see that? So the knowledge has to be at that level. with various different cultures. Do you see my point? So like that we have to understand what attracts us.

Through experience. So we take birth again and again. There are two kinds of sins. All I am telling you is open your heart.com/VyasaSJC/OpeningLecture. So we all have our bond because of karmas even that with karmas. for what karmas. So we are setting our first target. Nothing. how learning is done. through instruction. what is going to school? This is nothing but experience. And when the soul learns then really he is forgiven his sin. so now we can take the next step. If you do it. The soul is not being forgiven for certain things and because of some of your own desires also. Why are you stopping the learning? OK. it is very good for you. And unless you know the ways in which a person can learn. 03 Guna Introduction OK. Thank you. OK? How do you find out what are the ways to learn? Please read Nyaya Shastra. it is for your good. When you sit in complete isolation and meditate upon why this rebirth takes place. what is relationship. in such a short while. The Brihataranyaka Upanishad: that Upanishad is the best Upanishad to understand rebirth and karma. The obstruction is not from outside.Vyasa SJC Guna and Das Avatar lecture http://shrifreedom. If you do not open up the heart to the knowledge. a person has taken birth you know something about Jyotish. none of the things I’m telling you are mandatory. So the jyotishi’s first thing is to know that the human being or any being. Our first target is to learn why a person has taken birth. So. What is sin? Sin is that which is caused out of ignorance. That is all. from anubhava. So please find out what are the ways that a soul can learn.htm OK. In three years. If you do it. you will understand karma. Visti. even after punishment. it is not that you will not learn. All sins can be broken up into two groups. When you go to these different schools you are going to learn. And it is for us to find out what are the karmas that cause birth. and again and that is a never ending cycle. The day you are able to clearly tell why. he is teaching Jyotish to almost half the astrologers in the world. you are having all this because these are different schools that you are going to. I am not saying something new. what’s his age now? 23? Something like that. How long has Zoran been with me? Some of the best astrologers in America cannot stand in front of him. Hare Rama Krishna. What is the magic that happened? Did I do some magic that all that knowledge came into his head? What is it that made these people learn so quickly. One that is caused out of ignorance and one that is caused out of 7 of 50 19/06/2008 2:57 PM . There are different ways of learning. what is the purpose of the creation. If you cannot find that from a horoscope you do not know Jyotish. how can you make a prediction about what experiences he’s going to have? What is marriage. right? And people want her to lecture and see her knowledge of Jyotish. Every spiritual guru has said the same thing. Sin is that which is caused out of desire. Daridra karma is karma that is sticking which does not leave your body. If you don’t open your heart year after year will pass by and you will be struggling with those small little concepts because it is you who is obstructing the knowledge. Otherwise you will take more time. OK? So there are different ways to learn. Am I being understood very clearly? Do not obstruct this learning. We all take birth again because of the karmas that could not be forgiven. ways of learning. The soul is going to learn. So say Hare Rama Krishna. What are the ways to learn? You must find out what are the ways to learn. Aranyaka means the jungles. Then to find out what experiences this soul must have in this birth. Anubhava. That is daridra karma. OK? Brihataranyaka Upanishad. So that from those experiences the anubhava shall cause knowledge. how will the knowledge come into you? That is why some people are struggling for the knowledge and some people like Mr. four years. two years? How long have you been with me Sarbani for Jyotish? Three years. Freedom and Mr. now what else is necessary? Nothing is mandatory. Nyaya tells us how a person learns. any creature’s birth is because of karma. You will take more time to learn because you will not open up the heart. Imagine so.

just a name. My thing is over. But today we are here to discuss the three gunas. That is the problem with our brains. So you have to go beyond the gunas to get moksha. very brief. And that which is caused out of ignorance is from tamas. So there are three different portions of the same flower. this flower is an atma.com/VyasaSJC/OpeningLecture. At that level there is no differentiation. rajas and tamas. For that we need to understand creation in the first place. when we talk of Narayana. That means we are mentally very low creatures. Like my bank balance. So the soul has three attributes and these three attributes are sattva. Amrita. is called gunatita. Even sattva guna will cause rebirth. the three-quarters which are pure amrita of which does not manifest is the pure gunas. even when you breathe that is karma. in very brief. There are different concepts of creation. sattva. I do not know. or in whatever form God is. changing? That which is changing constantly. The entire body of God. look here is my sin balance. When I know perhaps then maybe I can tell you. the sinless state. One is sattva. That which is evolving. one-fourth (or a quarter) of the Narayana is supposed to be the evolver. The other three quarters of God. Take that this is an atma. So long as there is a guna it will manifest again. as three parts of His own being. It has got an inner portion and a petal portion and a green portion. I do not know if I’ll have words to tell you. Gunatita means transcending the three gunas. which is indestructible. in whatever form God exists. as coming from rajo guna. 04 Creation According to Parashara So when we talk of our vision or our view of karma it is through the gunas and when we talk of the gunas the entire creation is being seen from Narayana. The word guna. or pure nectar. it means attribute. This is Narayana. It’s a very sad thing. So that is beyond normal human comprehension. Because so long as you exist you cannot escape karma. Only a quarter of It is changing. That three-quarters is of pure amrita. If this flower I say is Narayana then this one-third of it is sattva which I say is Vishnu. One third is you. You can tell God. if there is a body. There is nothing called death over there because there was never a beginning. That which is caused out of wrong desires is called rajo guna. It is a sinless state. which cannot be destroyed. that which cannot die. because I do not know.htm wrong desires. I’m being very honest with you today. rajas and tamas. rajas and tamas and in these three gunas the Lord differentiates Himself. guna means attribute. There is karma happening around you. It will take birth again. What is taught to us is that we are mentally very high creatures. so I should get moksha. Amrita is that which cannot die. simply because you still have sattva guna you will come back. No. Who knows who will tell you. So these three are one and the same.Vyasa SJC Guna and Das Avatar lecture http://shrifreedom. my sin balance. OK? So. We do not know. you have to transcend it. he who does not die. Right? No debits left. but I do not know Him. You’re constantly doing karma. Let us say. Am I clear? Am I being understood? So there are three gunas or three attributes of the soul. Otherwise it does not get moksha. His own Self. there is no differentiation. We are studying the creation as seen in the eyes of Parashara. So you are doing karma all the time. OK. Sattva guna cannot cause sin. 8 of 50 19/06/2008 2:57 PM . The three gunas are. Whatever Narayana is. When the soul transcends all the three gunas then will the soul get moksha. is not in the physical world. So simply because you do not have any sin left that does not mean you will get moksha. OK? So there are three gunas. It’s like an atma. rajas. You have to be in the state that is beyond the gunas. Shiva and one-third is Brahma. Human comprehension must have a beginning and an end. So when we talk of our vision or our view of karma. What is evolving. Action is something you cannot escape from. You’re trapped in karma. So study more about these things so that you understand these things more clearly. rajas. The differentiation has to be done for us for our little minds. The soul must learn to transcend these three gunas. at least I do not know. the three-quarters of the 3 gunas. or let us say. Then only has that soul got moksha. This transcending the three gunas. sattva. You’ll go to a higher plane of consciousness because of sattva guna but you will come back to this planet when you catch other gunas in that stage.

So. That is why the one-eighth part of Jagannath is called Vasudeva. swaha. So this whole universe that man knows. again it will be destroyed. Let us first come to what is the created aspect. One part which is only having sattva guna and raja guna. And then there are those galaxies which are even beyond the solar system. Prakriti and Purusha are all parts of the remaining one-eighth of the physically manifested universe. They are the other lokas. far. depending upon how much freedom we have got. Everything that is there on planet earth. One is the uncreated aspect and one is the created aspect. That means the uncreated aspect is a portion and the created aspect is a portion . expanding into it and then like a time clock it is going inside. And Vasudeva. The physically manifested universe. That is called swarga loka. you say there is a world there is a universe. Jagannath the Lord of the universe and what is the universe? A universe is a manifestation of that evolution. So there are two parts to it. and Swarga. Bhu means the earth or the earth plane. that is the physically evolved one. tapa loka. the whole physical creation is only one-eighth part of the Lord. So there are three parts of the physically manifested universe from the human perspective. And this earth is a part of the solar system which is a part of the Milky Way. They are called the spiritual lokas or the four spiritual planes of existence.Vyasa SJC Guna and Das Avatar lecture http://shrifreedom. So they say someone has come from Satya Loka he has come from beyond the physical plane of the created universe. Shiva to Shiva Jagannatham. Of the one-fourth I said was Jagannath there are two parts in it.Bhuvah. is bhu.htm OK. Bhuvah. let us say. Right? In which there is no physical creation. Every knowledge you need about planet earth is called bhu. So two things are happening: one is the destruction of the physical world and one is the creation of the physical world. You go to Banares and ask what is Shiva’s highest name and they will say Jagannath. Jagannath. and then the remaining one-fourth we then break into two parts. I divide into three parts called Bhu. so long as his intelligence is limited to that of a man he cannot know more than one-eighth of the Lord. And they because of their karma came down to the lower lokas. Then there is the entire solar system of which the earth is a part. Am I being understood? So there the physically manifested universe is in three lokas. Again it will be created. These are the other four lokas. Before we go into how it was created. The real name of Krishna is Jagannath. jana loka and satya loka . how has it manifested? When we say there are two aspects to it. That means no matter how much of science we develop. or even that portion that men doesn’t know. The real name of Vishnu is Jagannath. Am I being understood? Then there are parts which are not visible to us. Shiva is Shiva. That knowledge of that system is called the bhuva loka or the bhuvah. Again the day comes it comes out. Bhu. The real name of Shiva is Jagannath. So the physical world is like there is a vacuum over here. The word is Jagannatha. Right? Am I being understood now? So these lokas are very important because they are the seven worlds which are 9 of 50 19/06/2008 2:57 PM . You see. OK. entire manifested universe. bhuvah and swaha. no matter how much of knowledge man will have as a man. He is the principle evolver because the entire physical creation is coming from that and when the time cycle changes it will again be destroyed. the Lord of the universe. The remaining one-fourth is evolving and we call that remaining one-fourth Jagannath.com/VyasaSJC/OpeningLecture. again the night comes and the whole universe is getting destroyed. bhuva loka where we will go after death and swargaloka where we will go when we have higher achievements. The universe is a manifestation of that entire evolution hence it is Jagannath. Right? When I say there is a world. which are not accessible to human beings. They are said to be maha loka. and inside this vacuum the whole universe is coming. of the remaining one-fourth we have two parts. The most important place is bhu loka where we stay. far away. One part in which there is no physical creation and one part in which there is the complete physical creation. So you see the higher beings came from the higher lokas. I need to logically study it so how do I do it? This entire manifested world. There are four parts in the remaining one-third of Jagannath which is not accessible by human beings. but unless I divide it into parts how can I study it? I can’t study anything unless I divide it into parts. The maximum he will know is only one-eighth.

the third rishi got ‘M’ from Maheshwara or Shiva. tapa and satyam. There is a day and there is a night and things are changing all the time. You are crossing bhuh loka. Because there is no need for change. Am I being understood now very clearly? OK. Aum bhuvah. You spoke the truth. you go beyond bhuvah loka. to transcend. Learn the bija of Tara. He got ‘U’ from Vishnu. Atri. There is no tamas. Like that. you go to satya loka and again come back. The three great rishis who got these three sounds are Gautama. Atri meditated on ‘U’. Aum satyam Tat savitur vareniyam Bhargo devasya dhimahi Dhiyo yonah pracodayat Aum apo jyoti raso amrtam Brahma bhur bhuvas suvar om OK? This is the mantra for transcending the seven lokas. This mantra is given in the Mahanarayana Upanishad. There is no tamas in the four spiritual lokas. You see the Gayatri mantra which is done by the highest Brahmanas who wish to transcend all the seven lokas. You see the power of the Gayatri mantra. Vishnu and Maheshwara Shiva. It is a part of the Gayatri mantra and this was given to the sannyasis for learning and understanding. when they come together they form Aum. The word tara is short for taraka. Nothing. have you heard of Atri? Those who do yoga and ayurveda should know Atri. it is: Aum bhuh. And Bharadhvaja. you live a perfectly righteous life. to go beyond. you go beyond swarga loka. Do you get my point? Even if you do great tapas and you go to tapa loka you will still come back. The one-eighth part of Narayana is evolving. It is the tarabija. So Aum has Brahma. were heard by the Maharishis when they meditated on Brahma. The four spiritual lokas are having sattva guna and rajas guna. ‘U’.Vyasa SJC Guna and Das Avatar lecture http://shrifreedom. Vishnu and Shiva in it.com/VyasaSJC/OpeningLecture. jana. ‘M’. maha. There is no escape. These three sounds were known or what we say. it is changing. Aum tapah. These three little sounds ‘A’. tapa and satyam. The word taraka means to cross. Aum swahah. The seed of tara. Aum helps you to cross. It is far too deep for me to say anything now. When you learn mantra shastras you will realize the meaning of the word tara. God is helping you to cross with Aum. jana. So the mantra is like this. Change is taking place only in this one-fourth and in this one-fourth there are four spiritual lokas and three material lokas.htm evolving all the time. There is no change. Aum helps us 10 of 50 19/06/2008 2:57 PM . Aum swahah. Aum janah. you never lied throughout your life. So the seven lokas or the seven worlds are in this one-eighth part which is changing all the time. Now we will do one mantra to remember these seven lokas. who meditated on Brahma and got the akshara ‘A’. Four. Three sounds. ‘M’. They ask the strength from Aum. To get out of it you have to go beyond these worlds and then you will go into one of those higher planes where there is no more evolution and where there is no more evolution it means your are not coming back. Aum mahah. you are going beyond bhuh loka. Why Aum? Aum is supposed to be the tarabija. You see? When we know that the evolution is taking place in the seven lokas to get moksha you have to get out of the seven lokas and then only will you reach a state where there is no more evolution. Aum bhuvah. Aum. who do not wish to come back in the seven lokas. So when you say Aum bhuh. Which are the four spiritual lokas? Maha. A sannyasi is he who intends to transcend all the seven lokas. The remaining three-eighths there is no day there is no night. Why does Aum help you to cross? How does Aum help us to cross? Aum is composed of three aksharas: ‘A’. ‘U’. With each Aum you are actually able to cross over one of these.

05 Bhu Loka. So there is a living world and there is a non-living world. Then we found out that portion. See. It’s a very simple differentiation. He helps us to go beyond ignorance. We have found three worlds. it is just parts of the original stone. and there is a physical part. without Brahma you can never cross over rajas guna. and tamo guna Shiva. He is supposed to be the nila shakti. This is a very pathetic translation. how will you go to other lokas. the living beings. These deities are nothing but forms of the same one God whose helping us to transcend these gunas. So with Aum we are crossing over these three gunas. The Bhagavad Gita teaches that in this world there are two creations. Now from the physical part we have now come to the bhu loka. Without Him you can never cross over tamo guna. a spiritual part. of this world. Same way. And to transcend them there are three deities or three forms of God which are helping us to transcend. Aum is helping us to transcend these three gunas. Shiva is he who helps us to transcend ignorance. atma. it is stuck. There is a nonphysical part. With the strength of Shiva we come out of tamas. Without Shiva you will be dwelling in ignorance all the time. And in the living world there is a plant kingdom and there is an animal kingdom. And some say we need to worship Surya. Atma How does physical creation work? What is physical creation? OK. All the planets are there and all the stars are there and this thing we call the Milky Way. Your greed will always overcome you. And in Kali Yuga even worship of Brahma is prohibited. And then svarga loka which is the whole universe. The word atma means self. Tamo guna is ignorance. So we worship Ganesha instead. Jada means that which is stuck. Shiva is not ignorance.htm to cross over raja guna Brahma. then we came to the evolver. it cannot continue. Jiva plus atma. and M. Jadatma. The translations you find in normal jyotish books Shiva is tamo guna. What are the three worlds? One is this earth plane which is our focus. first we talked of God. that which is changing. sattva and tamas. which is the physical part of that which is changing.Vyasa SJC Guna and Das Avatar lecture http://shrifreedom. is it not. which cannot move on its own. we are coming down. That is why Shiva is helping us to transcend tamo guna. some other creature. now we come to another part of creation. Shiva is the penultimate guru. OK? So you realize the value of Aum? Do you realize that Aum is not one word? It is one sound all right. And there are reasons you will learn later. to cross over the three gunas. then we have the bhuvah loka. it 11 of 50 19/06/2008 2:57 PM . So Surya and Ganesha put together gives us Brahma. You want to take one step out of this creation you need Shiva’s help. one-fourth of it is changing. So long as you are living in the gunas you will come back to this planet. but it is composed of three tiny bits of sound. that is all. Because of the nila shakti or the blue lotus he helps us to cross over the tamo guna of ignorance. Right? So now we bring our focus down. cannot procreate on its own. satttva guna Vishnu. You cannot worship Brahma directly. So we have learnt now the sapta lokas and we have learned about Narayana and the four parts of Narayana. all the galaxies in the universe. Without Shiva it is impossible. All the time your greed will be the main cause of your problems. The living beings are called jivatma. And that is actually not procreation because a new stone has not come. and one which we call the animate beings. jada. And these tiny bits of sound have rajas. Have you ever seen baby stones? The only way it can procreate is to break it into pieces. exactly the same thing as taught in the Bhagavad Gita. U. And with the blessings of Vishnu we even go beyond sattva. our focal point of earth. With the blessings of Brahma we give up greed and rise above rajas. OK? You will be stuck in this planet. We are using a microscope each time to increase our focus. When you were in school you learned about this. You cannot even cross bhu loka. A stone cannot procreate. A.com/VyasaSJC/OpeningLecture. The word guna means attribute. One is jadatma. All this creation in this world can be divided into two parts: one which we call the material creation. That there is a whole living world and there is a non-living world. is the guru for the gurus. Shiva is not tamo guna. We have learned that. it cannot procreate. We come down even further to the earth plane.

That means the soul which can manifest with three gunas and yet stays in an 12 of 50 19/06/2008 2:57 PM . every thing is decided by symbols. It responds to music. imagine living the life of a tree. what is God? God in one definition is Paramatma. These are all symbolic children. the moment of the creation of either a jadatma or a jivatma. So firstly. It is all reflection. And this earth plane is supposed to be dominated by the jivatmas or the living beings. it has been established now. or the non-living world cannot procreate. and you are stuck in that. a chart of the skies. it is a planet in the sky. that is very important for you to understand. based upon the starting moment. around it is bhuvah loka. very karmic thousand year life. Mars is in the sky. the ultimate. So this differentiation of jivatmas and jadatmas is called the primary differentiation. This is a very. if I can decipher the gene code from the chart. or the earth as the center. myself. and around that much further away is the svarga loka with the galaxies and the stars. So we have jivatmas and we have jadatmas. you are seeing centuries and centuries of karma. The jivatmas. The one who dominates over earth is Mars and the rules of this planet Mars will dominate over bhu loka. depending on the viewpoint of the observer. That is called the geocentric viewpoint and that viewpoint is what is used in Jyotish because you have bhu loka. that it depends on what exercises you are doing and what food you are eating. you are stuck in that little piece of land that has been allotted to you. The tree is a jivatma. And you have to live for God knows how many years. That is why Mars is called Bhumiputra. The gene code already has the date of your death written in it. we look at the world as a circle. A graha is different from a planet. because for the non-living world we cannot have putrakaraka. whereas for jivatmas. the non-living are not. I can calculate the moment of death. that is all bogus.Vyasa SJC Guna and Das Avatar lecture http://shrifreedom. Graha is something far more symbolic. Imagine if you were born as a tree. just like you and anybody else. What karma. it is symbolic of an energy. Everything in astrology there is something called symbology. And one of the children of Mars is called Mrityu [Death]. You cannot move anywhere. This is today a scientifically established fact. of a kind of energy. you are seeing man come. That means if I can draw a map of the heavens and I have the means to calculate. For example when we say Mars is the symbol of the policeman. It has feeling. The other meanings we will go into later. especially seeing the redwoods over here. That atma which is beyond the three gunas and is also in the three gunas. which are procreating. so earth is kept stable at the center and everything else moves around it. who is the boss of this earth? The living beings are the boss of the earth and among living beings. You are observing the world come and go. When we study all these incarnations. fighting with themselves. So imagine if you were born as a tree or a plant. Yesterday when astrologers were saying that you cannot calculate that. it doesn’t mean that Mars has become the policeman. The energy that it is representing is symbolized by the policeman. And the difference between jivatma and jadatma is that the jadatma. energy. So let’s be clear about one thing. which is base upon your karma. Who is dominating the planet earth? The living beings are dominating. it has senses. Whoever shall have the highest physical strength shall rule. that is the law of this loka. or the child of the earth. So we can have horoscopes or we can have a star position. the length of life is something very karmic. It’s all symbolic. very important differentiation which we will use later when we study atmakaraka. and it is stable the way we look at it because in space everything is relative. There can be no sole significator for children so they must have seven charakarakas.com/VyasaSJC/OpeningLecture. man is the boss. Mars is dominating over this loka called planet earth. we must have eight charakarakas. So when we have the jivatma and jadatma.htm simply means self. it is a living being. And God. naturally jivatma represents anything which is living. Since for us planet earth is the most important place in the world. So the symbol of the living is Mars. When you are born it is already written in your genes when you will die. It is a fact. whoever shall have the highest fighting force shall be the ruler. Atma means me.

It is from grahana. You are so badly stuck that you cannot get unstuck. Otherwise he is a jiva. In simple English it means identity.” So this atma and this mana get stuck in the womb of its mother. He is not under the control of the gunas. That means that he who is aware of the gunas is free of the gunas but is still staying beyond the gunas. The Paramatma also has the three gunas but is beyond them. America is the boss of all the nations. Have you seen an eclipse? The sun and the moon come together and Rahu gets control over them. You will come back and back and back to this jail. Simple rule. the gunas do not dominate him.htm unmanifested state.Vyasa SJC Guna and Das Avatar lecture http://shrifreedom. Similarly of bhu loka. Let us understand the process of birth. He did not have ahamkara. there is no escape from it. all creatures.com/VyasaSJC/OpeningLecture. how can we say he is Paramatma? What is the difference between Paramatma and jivatma? The difference is a jivatma always has three gunas but is never beyond them. What do you read in your history books? Pick up your history books and read all the great names in it. Now. Be clear about it. Think of a jail. whoever has the guns will have greatness. gunatita. be it this plant. That is called Paramatma. there is just no escape. The conception is an exactly similar process. and then goes into the womb of the mother and that body he will get is called yoni. you have to keep coming back. and is affected by the gunas all the time. is the door for you to get into this 13 of 50 19/06/2008 2:57 PM . Then only we say he is Paramatma. Your crime you will commit you will come back to this jail. What is ahamkara? Ahamkara means identity. He says OK. How does an eclipse occur? The sun and the moon come together. But we are jyotishis. Yoni means female sexual organ because he will come out from the female sexual organ. The real significator of this bhu loka is that of jails. OK. whoever has the maximum physical strength. The word graha means to eclipse. exactly the way jails are used. That is exactly the moment of conception. so now the jivatmas and the Paramatma. If someone is not beyond the gunas. Grahana is the eclipse. He did not spend 32 years meditating. be it a human being. Because of Paramatma must be gunatita. to eclipse. The process of birth is what we call the process of eclipse. shocking but true. the rules are different. Alexander is great because he spent 32 years of his life killing and fighting wars. Mars rules this loka. That is the single most important factor. So the grahas and the process of birth. name the great names in history. you do not know who you are. I’m a dog. you are a criminal. History does not remember people who have meditated a lot. This is a jail. do not determine what the atma must do. His physical evolution onto this planet will be from the female sexual organ. This planet earth is a jail. All the great ones. Who’s the boss of the jail? The police officer. without mana there is no ahamkara. The atma gets a mana (mind) and this atma and mana are put together in a glue. we are supposed to go above. birth is but an eclipse. beyond the gunas. Will you ask America to throw away its fighter planes and guns. Because this bhu loka is ruled by mars. The atma is told “you are now going to be a dog. Why is America the king of all the nations? Whether people accept it or not. Are you able to understand the difference? What is the single most important factor differentiating Paramatma from jivatma? The Paramatma is beyond the gunas. So the female sexual organ is the door for coming into this planet. police. He can go beyond the gunas. the atma and the mana are stuck together. beyond the gunas. he will be the boss. And that is the moment of grahana or eclipse. who is going to listen to that? Why is India dominating like that over the entire subcontinent? Because of its guns and the military. They’ve all been killers and murderers. This loka. like things getting stuck. what are the rules that apply in a jail? Exactly in the same way you will live on this planet earth. Before that the atma did not have a mana so he did not know who he was. Why is it bossing around? Because it has the maximum physical strength. Why? Because they are not the rules of this loka.” It says “OK. You have to be caught hold of by some graha and physically brought down to this planet as punishment. like Alcatraz. because you do not have an identity of your own. And that glue is called Rahu. Try to go above and see everything from a birds eye view. be it this animal. the first simple translation. they all have to manifest through grahas. How does birth take place. The symbol of the female sexual organ is a triangle and that triangle which is facing down.

Shrim and hrim you are already having. prakriti. which we must. The triangle facing down is called Kali. Sattva guna is shri shakti. Shri or Lakshmi. It means coming down to this planet. flat on top and has a point downwards. When you come to this planet you must have all the three gunas. raja guna is hrim. this moment you will die. Become gunatita. that means you have transcended sattva guna. For physical manifestation you must have tamas. In the worst case when we were spirit beings we had only two gunas. you have transcended rajas. status. So. We were spirit beings. when you transcend that. Now look at the evolution. that is why she is the primary goddess of earth. That when you have those good experiences you must not become happy. that thing you have learned. We were either shrim or hrim. Rama. domination over others. rajas. See the triangle. In the evolution I said the spirit being has only two gunas. hrim and krim. Similarly power. We are all avatars. Bhudevi who is the spouse of Brahma. and tama guna transcendence is krim. and M is Shiva.com/VyasaSJC/OpeningLecture. what she is doing every moment? Every moment she is protecting you. I am an avatar. position. there are many avatars. Without krim there is no protection. This is that form of the mother who is constantly protecting you because Shiva is strength. A is rajas. What is om? A. There are three primary syllables: shrim. Raja guna is bhu shakti or Saraswati. these are the gunas. hrim is rajas and krim is tamas. krim. So the triangle pointing upwards is the door for going out from this planet. or time and Kali. The good experiences which you will have will be related to sattva guna but that is not something worth learning. It does not make any difference whether you receive money or give money. Krishna. hrim and krim to understand. So earlier you had shrim and hrim and now you have shrim. You are an avatar. Without tamo guna you cannot manifest physically. But to come into the world we needed tamo guna also. Now in the same order put the three shaktis. So after birth you have shrim. you are in rajas. Shrim is sattva. the true spiritual learning is transcending sattva. Do you understand the importance of krim or Kali? Do you understand her importance. hrim. When you turn it up it becomes a symbol of the male. First will be hrim. And Shiva. But you still have to learn something very important. So the worst experiences we have in this life are those experiences which are related to tamas guna. So sattva guna is shrim. in whatever plane you were in spirit form. Similarly when you invert the triangle it means the opposite. so his spouse is the protecting strength. That is why she is the earth goddess. one of the two. Avatar. M. And your entire protection on this planet earth has been assigned to krim. In this chapter we are taught that there are ten avatars. each one of us was a spirit being.Vyasa SJC Guna and Das Avatar lecture http://shrifreedom. We had only two gunas. When you have won a prize it should not have any effect on you. Remember these three sounds: shrim.htm planet. The same person is reincarnating. hrim and krim. U is Vishnu that is sattva. are helping us transcend and understand tamas. all the power games that are played in this world. who is Mahakala. Saraswati is the spouse of Brahma. 06 Avatars Now we talk of avatars which is the second chapter of Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra. If you do so. What is the meaning of the word avatar? It is a very common English word now. So our life. that is transcending tamas. The bija is hrim. the three shaktis. What is the extra that you got? You got krim. and tamas. the protective mother. When you get a large amount of money you should not be delighted and throw a party. that is the door to come into this planet. purusha. the primary Mother. sattva guna and rajas guna. So when we say avatar it just means incarnation not a reincarnation. Then shrim then krim. Because of krim you have been able to take birth in this planet. What is the difference between an avatar of God and an avatar of whatever? The definition of an avatar of God must be one 14 of 50 19/06/2008 2:57 PM . Incarnation means avatar. Hare. it is like this. You have to transcend the guna. Reincarnation applies to a person who is coming back again and again. you have to transcend it. authority. So who is the mother who is causing you to take birth on planet earth? Kali. U. you have crossed tamas.

nine kinds of eclipses. So the relationship between the Sun and the Moon. He should have come to California. I have become too big for this pond. what was the kind of eclipse that caused your birth. He had little fish. they have to follow the rules of Mars. These stories that are there in the Puranas are also telling us what we should do to overcome negativities attributed to our graha. Or in other words. in your last birth? No. Tamas means destruction. The fish incarnation is a attributed to the planet Ketu. You will learn about it. What does Ketu indicate? Ketu is the last among the grahas. So feeding fishes is a good thing. See what the fish king would do? He fed the fish. no third party. And that will decide whether you will take birth as a man or as a woman. It is more important than your lagna lord. whoa. All beings. So they took the fish out and put him in a pond. These avatars. he has to. more important than everything. The word graha is from grahana. the nine kinds of eclipses under which beings take birth.” How foolish you are. he found little fish in a pond. definitely not. through an eclipse mode. the sex you are.com/VyasaSJC/OpeningLecture. And the translation as planet is totally wrong. Then the fish became so big in the pond he didn’t know what to do. That is the eclipse which causes you to be born. He is of tamas guna. They have to. Your sex. There is something called janma vighaatika graha. The fish had fallen out of the sea. It is called janma vighaatika graha. Because the word graha has to do with eclipse and that is how you are born. So the graha will decide what is happening. the eclipse that is taking place at that point. are said to be the highest incarnations of the grahas. vigatika is a time measure. So it is this mind that is eclipsing the soul. even the Paramatma. There are ways to calculate which graha is causing the birth to take place. and that is the grahana. What attributes did they have. Janma means birth. it’s not a positive word. The king said make a pond. He has to come through a graha.htm that must transcend the gunas. graha. nine different kinds of grasping that will get hold of you and push you to planet earth. I will use the word graha. will all be decided by that one planet. If the avatar cannot transcend the gunas and is going to dwell in the gunas or is going to be overtaken by the gunas. So these grahas. That is grahana. Our exercise today will be to find out why these incarnations are supposed to be those of God. He probably hadn’t seen whales. Can I use the word planet and you will not misunderstand? OK. or the manifestations of God. symbolizing the soul and the mind is called tithi. I am the guru of SJC. And as soon as you come to this planet you say “I am Sanjay. Matsya avatar is the fish incarnation. You are eclipsed and brought to this planet. It is your own mind telling you that you are somebody which you are not. Were you Sanjay. They fed the fish more and the fish became even bigger. Who is eclipsing your soul? It is your own mind. the navagrahas. If God is incarnating on planet earth he cannot break this rule. and that is what happened. Now the story goes like this: there was a king and he had a beautiful aquarium. so Ketu is indicating some kind of a terrible destruction. woman. when they take birth. there in jyotish we have navagraha or nine modes of eclipse. It is for your good that you 15 of 50 19/06/2008 2:57 PM . Then how can you say you are? It is just an eclipse of your mind that makes you believe you are that. then he is no avatar at all. so he put the fish in an aquarium and would feed the fish. So then the fish told him “Oh king. You see when the king fed the fish the fish became bigger and it became so big it filled the entire aquarium. what kind of a fish is this that we got from the sea? It’s become bigger and bigger. will you be so in your next birth? No. Since birth must take place through grahana. So the eclipse is between your own mind and your own soul. So that janma vighaatika graha gives us an idea of who grasped you. guru of SJC. Nobody else is doing it. The king said. its a very negative word. man. in what way did they manifest that they were able to show an attribute of God? How did it happen? 07 Matsya Let us start with Matsya avatar.Vyasa SJC Guna and Das Avatar lecture http://shrifreedom. a very sudden deluge.

knowledge. and then the fish went away in the sea. Maha : great. Everything was destroyed. So the savior is a symbol of God and he will help you to cross over this terrible destruction. and everything started drowning in the rain. the grahana coming into your life. And from there again there shall be creation. Matsyaya means fish. There are no oars. And it is the fish incarnation who will pull you through you all this. And they pushed the boat into the sea without any oars. “how can you say that this fish is an incarnation of the Lord?” They said “of course. because he is going to transcend this world destruction. Even at the stage of complete destruction they were not shouting. You have to let go of those oars. to transcend this destruction. The fish incarnation is symbolic of death in our lives. the time has come for the whole world to be destroyed. the graha Ketu. It is symbolic of stages of somebody’s life.htm should put me in the sea. And when the destruction stops he will put you in a safe place. And that is how the new life started. The fish incarnation pulled the boat with the seven Rishis and the king in it and the four Vedas through the whole destruction period. At that point in time the seven sages came to the king and said “listen. So the symbol of God is he who can help you to transcend. our whole world is drowning around us. Vedas. When there are no oars you are not going to guide your life. It will give you moksha and take you to this little land from where you will not come 16 of 50 19/06/2008 2:57 PM . only the Vedas will go with you. A tremendous pull it has. just like Noah’s ark. they were not crying. is indicating such a state in our lives where everything around us is getting destroyed. And the fish incarnation came. What will help you to transcend are the seven Rishis who sit as the guides of the seven lokas. the planet Ketu. See the symbol ‘without oars. What did they try to save? The Vedas. Nothing else will come.” The king said. That is the Paramatma.’ Do not try to steer your own life. It is symbolic. That means that when complete destruction occurs. Why does it symbolize Paramatma? Because it helped you to cross over. When you read about Noah’s ark you will understand. sit down in the boat quietly. And they threw a string on him and tied the boat. surrender to one of the Rishis. Pray to the Rishis because those Rishis are the ones whose energy will call God.Vyasa SJC Guna and Das Avatar lecture http://shrifreedom. And they will help you to transcend the lokas through Vidya. When everything will be destroyed he is the one who will save you. Only knowledge will come with you. he is. And then he will come and guide you out through this terrible storm. And then one day there was rain and the rain went on and on and there was no stopping of the rain.” Bhagavate means an incarnation of God. Then after some time the rain stopped and they found land and that is where he left them. Everything starts drowning. That is the eclipse. If you try it you will drown. The blessed lord has already incarnated near you and it is you who have been good in feeding that fish which is an incarnation of the Lord. they were not running to save their golden materials. There is total destruction around you and you have to let go. learn to surrender to the Rishis and to the Vedas. The whole world started drowning in the rain. when you die. There are seven Rishis.” The mantra was “ Om namo bhagavate mahamatsaya. So they all carried the fish and they put him in the sea. So the fish incarnation symbolizes Paramatma. When there is destruction all around you know that your own brain is clouded. Om namo bhagavate mahamatsaya. matsya: fish. It is symbolic of our own lives.com/VyasaSJC/OpeningLecture. The seas became rough and terrible and whole cities were getting destroyed. so let go. You have to go off your own thinking. When terrible rains come in our lives and everything gets destroyed around.” So the king sat on a boat with the seven rishis and they kept the Vedas with them. And the Rishis sat down and prayed “ Om namo bhagavate mahamatysaya . There is a remaining mantra given in the Bhagavatam but this is a simple small mantra. Take shelter in the Rishis seriously and do your mantras properly.

study the fishes and you will understand all about Ketu. You must study the fish to understand Ketu. There is a rudder in the back as well as a fan. the graha Ketu. know that Ketu is very strong in your chart. Forget it. So people who are born on the seventh day of a month. Do it and you will see the difference. these are the three dates where you know that Ketu must be a strong influence in your chart. You are a bully so naturally you will do that. Just surrender to the Rishis. That intuitive flow with the currents. That is the entire lesson of the Matsya avatar. You are not supposed to use your head. So when you do Vedic numerology from the fish incarnation story. It is the mind that has caused the eclipse. we have understood the fish incarnation. The real you is tormented by your own mind. The seven Rishis are the Sapta Rishis up in the sky. the Matsya avatar story we know that the number seven has to do with Ketu. right? Somebody has to steer and pull the boat. When you will steer with the strength of your hand? Will you row? Forget it. That is the important teaching. it is a tail. or people who are born on twenty-five. The moment you apply your mind you are gone. The entire vibration of the tail is causing the fish to move. Then you should not wait for the wave to come and see what follows. The more you try to reason it does not work because it is the reason that is eclipsing the soul. your own mind is the bully. The propulsion is with the tail. Intuitive flow comes from Ketu. That is why Ketu is mokshakaraka. Even before the wave comes you must know about the wave and cut and go. Keep that in mind. you can see them. Seven.htm back again. The king was told throw away the oars. That is why Ketu is headless. That is the important message for us.com/VyasaSJC/OpeningLecture. save the soul. Do the mantra. That is why when in anyone’s horoscope you find the sun to be terribly afflicted you give a cat’s eye. You have to use your intuition. Fishes have great intuition. so Ketu rules intuition. The important thing you must understand about Ketu is we are asked to throw away our oars. don’t use your head. They are symbolic of the number seven which is ruled by Ketu also. That is Ketu. Don’t try to understand what the mantra is going to do. is coming from the tail of the fish. Do not kill fish. also surrender the oars. if you want that the graha Ketu should be favorable that after you die you will get a direction. We will pray and Matsya avatar will come and take us. That is why Ketu indicates the great escape where you lose your head. The mind is the bully. Why does the fish have to do with Ketu? Because he is mokshakaraka because it was the fish who pulled you out. Don’t try steering your own ship. That is the lesson here. that is the attribute. (Q) Is there a problem with keeping fish in aquariums? 17 of 50 19/06/2008 2:57 PM . And give you a new existence where you will not have to be born anymore. So now. you cannot understand it. instead feed the fish. There are no enemies outside. now what will I do. at least symbolically. You want moksha? Your own mind is your enemy. it will not work. someone to steer you through. Your own mind is your enemy. the sea is so terrible that you will drown and the whole ship will go. How to cut and go. where you let go of your mind. don’t try. That is the important message. Ketu will break everything and take the soul out. You have to let go of the oars. The submarines follow this propulsion of the fishes. Who is going to steer us? Somebody has to steer and propel us. Do not harm the fish. Remember I told you that. all the propulsion.Vyasa SJC Guna and Das Avatar lecture http://shrifreedom. Observe the fishes. so what excuse is it going to give you? It is like the bully trying to tell you that you must do this so it is good for you. But why is Ketu in the first place associated with the fish? He is headless. with your boat you will go in the water. That is why they said Ketu is the one who eclipses the mind and causes the soul to come out. a turbine which is actually propelling the sub. So. When you are in great danger and Ketu is creating havoc in your life give some food to the fishes and you will come out of its eclipse. Your entire direction. sixteen. A huge wave is about to come. And the tormented one is your own soul. So who is the oar? The fish. The fish is going to do that. Cat’s eye is the gemstone for Ketu. This head of yours is your worst enemy. sit down quietly over there. And how does the fish do it? It does it with a tail.

You’re not dead. Birth. So the important thing about this lesson of this avatar it tells you if you really feel for the fishes. 08 Varaha Avatar. so breathing is an auspicious thing. We see breathing from there. Pada means feet. He is auspicious. If somebody has pranapada in Aquarius he is a gentleman. So great he is. sa. Prathama prana. a mathematical form called pranapada. Sukara means pig. is he who makes that sound because his breathing is like a grunt and his breathing is very heavy. nothing else comes with you after death. Parasara has used the word sukara. at least after listening to this story. So pranapada is how you breathe. Sukara. some connection is being made somewhere by which you will be saved when your time of destruction comes. the breathing sound is called su. We talked of death now? We talk of birth right now. that name. So naturally you can’t eat fishes. Varaha Avatar is the other extreme. Have you heard of pranapada? Right down this word: pranapada. when you stop breathing you die. it is a name of a pig. Sukara means pig. Pranapada The next avatar is the Sri Varaha Avatar. Each breath is a foot. You are not supposed to wait for them to die or give them to your cat to eat it. Similarly we shall talk of rebirth because of Varaha Avatar and Rahu. When you breathe hard it makes a sound su. It is defining birth. is one step. Varaha means boar.com/VyasaSJC/OpeningLecture. or the first breath. When the fish become big you are supposed to release them. or the boar incarnation. See the breathing is called sukar. he is causing you to breathe. That is the important message of the Matsya avatar. we can’t destroy fishes. That is why breath is seen from pranapada. From where you start breathing. He says “good eeevening Sanjaaay. The name that Parasara uses is such a beautiful name. The knowledge alone stays with you. Why? Because you are breathing. And you’ll see that fishes are a symbol of God.htm (S) Our king started with an aquarium. Rahu is the cause of rebirth. somewhere. some energy is being released from you. There are endless incarnations.’ It is su. When you die or when you are passing through such a stage in your life which is like death then it is your intuition that will save you. That is the reason why. Breathing is good or bad? Try holding your breath for one hour and you will find out whether it is good or bad. The word sukara is ‘su’ ‘kara’ not ‘shukara. (S) Right. right? The mantra for this avatar is om namo bhagavate sukaraya . You have died and come back to life because of Rahu. See he breathes slowly. and the number of breaths that you are going to take in this world is fixed. you’ll start respecting the fish. So birth is defined as the first breath. Rahu is the god of all desires and we are only born because of desire. dantya. right? He has caused you to incarnate again and again and again and again. So he is breathing heavily.. How many of us are releasing the fish back? We don’t.. sukara. heavy breath. The deluge is a symbol of complete destruction or death. He breathes very slowly. And when did you start breathing? As soon as you are born. what is the problem? When the fish becomes big you are supposed to release them back into the waters. Think very calmly. A thing called pranapada where the calculation. (Q) Does that mean that the moment of the first breath is the point that you take on the. the breath is coming out so 18 of 50 19/06/2008 2:57 PM . you will start loving the fish. and when you think more and more. It is the Rishis that will protect you and it is the Vedas that will carry you through. He brings you back to life. And su is auspicious. That means the Varaha Avatar is a very important story for the astrologers.” He is a gentleman. sukara. Death or almost death like situation. If we did not have desires left we would not be born. Just as we were talking of Matsya Avatar as the definition of death and the seven Rishis as the seven lokas and the four Vedas as the basis by which you can transcend these seven lokas. So long as you are feeding them and looking after them. That word.Vyasa SJC Guna and Das Avatar lecture http://shrifreedom. These endless incarnations are because of the breath. An incarnation means when you start breathing. So they are very much part of nature. So the breathing is an important facet of your life.

So. That is what we all want. And at that point of time all the ghosts started crying “what will happen. so you will die early. big. Your whole world which was your mother’s stomach suddenly has become this whole world around you. The demon threw your world in water. many people have been learning astrology. It was breathing very heavily. What is Earth? Earth is the world. When is your world in water? Have you ever seen a world in water. In Ayurveda.com/VyasaSJC/OpeningLecture. Pranapada in Cancer is not good. The pranapada will decide how you are breathing. this is very important. Then the head came out and this came out. What does that mean? That means from the water in your mother’s stomach you were exposed to this world of air. is in water. The Varaha Avatar story is different.” So what happened then? Brahma started meditating. so you will die early. “How are yoouu?” See how slowly the breath came out. The world came out in the air and you started breathing. If pranapada. What is death? When the breath stops. Demon. And then he jumped into the water and he picked up the world and took it out of the water. and then put the world in the air and held it up. what happens to the little seed that is planted in the mother’s stomach? It becomes big. Those of you who have studied medical astrology will find this very important information. you will remember it now. And planets are studied in the horoscope from this lagna to see what is stopping your breath. well grounded. Pranapada is called a lagna. Yogic breathing means pranapada in Leo. You see? The breath is strong. And the boar was making grunting sounds. and you started breathing. it is called the lagna of breathing. again the breath . See he is a cultured gentleman. his hair was like bristles.Vyasa SJC Guna and Das Avatar lecture http://shrifreedom. what is his name? Does anyone remember his name? I’m not really good with demon names. The world was in water. See the speed at which it has grown. And then he threw that world in the stomach of the mother. A detailed description is given which is a boar description. What 19 of 50 19/06/2008 2:57 PM . So God decided to incarnate. big. Even in front of fear he is cool while everybody else is shaking. No going up. Like that the pranapada in different signs will tell us what kind of breath you are having. When you were in the stomach of your mother. Your breath is perfect. Earth was thrown in water. so your world.htm slowly. very steady. When will you die. So at that point of time the boar heard that the world has fallen and he shook his head. There was some demon. is in Leo the breathing is like that of a lion. It is like creation.see the breath. no alteration.a little boar came out from his nose with the breath. And it was making grunting sounds. big at a very fast rate. the Varaha Avatar. who means the coming of breath? Ketu means the going of breath. there was a demon who was creating a lot of havoc. And from his breath . no going down. and the boar started becoming big. so that means the teeth had come out. have you seen the Sun go very fast or very slow? No. he’s steady in his motion. perfect and steady. it was called sukara. The Moon is a very fast planet so you breathe very fast. He took the Earth and he threw it into the water. Have you ever seen the sun go fast or slow? Have you ever in astrology. Like that the little boar which has come out of a little piece of hair from the nose of Brahma became a big boar. big. Is your breath getting obstructed. You have. perfect yogic breathing is pranapada in Leo. running around trying to take over these worlds. Pranapada in Cancer: very fast breathing. And in his teeth he had big tusks. Who was the demon who eclipsed you? Your atma was put in a cage and the mana was put on top of it. You can study the description carefully to understand its meaning. you are in the world. Sukara means breathing heavily. Similarly. The entire Varaha Avatar story is the world as seen from the eyes of the created being. The breathing does not falter in front of fear because the Sun does not falter. And the demon Rahu eclipsed it. A tiny little seed has become so big a baby in nine months. protect the world. the creator started meditating. So if pranapada is in Aquarius the breath is slow because Saturn is slow. or the breath. And then he had powerful bristles. So it was in water. it is all about that creation. That is the process of birth. OK. the breath. see that? Rakshasa. So now. there is no fear.

and as it is sinking it is fully destroyed by this tremendous suffering. Maha dukha. Terrible pain. a sorrow that is unmatched. It is cramped inside that. or who is pregnant. can help that mother. See the Varaha Avatar saved life. Yet at that moment of pain. You see the situation. is they are points which are 20 of 50 19/06/2008 2:57 PM . you’re cramped. when the whole world is being destroyed. how it has changed. That means the child has to be born and will breathe. trapped. at that time. you’re stuck. There will be safe delivery. om namo bhagavate sukaraya. people go to jail. and the enormous danger too. It is a terrible sorrow. And to take you out from that sorrow and the terrible pain the mother has to go through. that is right. all those things were happening. when you are under the terrible attack of Rahu and you are cramped and you can’t move around and can’t do anything. like a tree or a plant. No knowledge. not varaha. Similarly. It is a most difficult and painful moment. The moment of birth is a very dangerous and most difficult moment. Such a sorrow you will never see again in this world. It is a mantra by which you as an astrologer. the two extremes. if she worships the Varaha Avatar with the mantra om namo bhagavate sukaraya. The world was falling in water. a tiny creature you are. The exact word used has been explained in the Madhusudana Stotra. It is like kumbha rasi. Then her child will breathe. you can’t get out. you don’t know where to go. it is great sorrow.htm was the soul doing in the stomach of the mother? What important lesson does it tell us? That is. Then by worshipping the Varaha Avatar you will be carried away from that. 09 Vamana So we were talking last about Sri Varaha Avatar. nothing. That is the greatest sorrow that any soul can see. like going to jail. with the mantra om namo bhagavate sukaraya. It is such an important mantra. conception was taking place. How do we see God in this Varaha Avatar? How do we see God in this? What role did God play? How do we see the hand of God? We see the hand of God only at the moment of birth. Garbhavasam maha dukha swahi mam madhusudana Garbhavasam means sitting in the womb of the mother. You don’t know how to get out. how cramped it is in this little room. Have you seen a baby. The whole pain finishes and the sorrow finishes and great joy is there all around. You are totally trapped in that. when the world is sinking in the water. They say that the mother will never see more pain than that in her life. you are trapped and put in a jail. be sure of it. At one moment they are ending. Maha dukha. At the time the world was about to be destroyed. the Varaha Avatar jumps in and takes the world out of the womb and brings the baby into this. (Q) Is that why it is called kumbhi patna? (S) Yes. was taking place. a mother who is carrying a child. All the sorrow that the soul has seen.com/VyasaSJC/OpeningLecture. and suddenly the baby is born and everybody is celebrating and is smiling and happy. So who took you out from the terrible pain and terrible sorrow and suffering? The Varaha Avatar. the name used is sukara. right? The important thing that we learned about these two avatars. it is the greatest sorrow that any soul can get because the soul is cramped.Vyasa SJC Guna and Das Avatar lecture http://shrifreedom. there is not even room to move around. suddenly finishes. even if you do it for somebody else. That moment of birth when he takes it out of the water and puts it into the air is a moment worth praising a million times because you have saved more life. suddenly it finishes. So you see the terrible pain to the mother and the great sorrow to the child are ending at one moment. in the last month. all kinds of exposures and infections and death and whatever. On this planet Earth you will not see more sorrow than you saw in the home of your mother.

he will become the master of the three worlds. dama. Which are the three worlds? Bhu. That was Shukracharya’s teaching to Bali. Just like Adi Shankara. So Rahu and Ketu are without bodies. And Bali became stronger and stronger. They cause such destruction in your lives which is like taking birth or seeing death. So Shukracharya said if you have to be king. that money is everything in life. Enjoy this world. This master is wasting your time by talking about all these things. That is. concentrate on the ice cream. especially this Earth. was Upendra. You must not forget mercy. the power of enjoyment of this world. Bali. Major transformations occur. his name was Bali. Can you imagine what sort of stupid people they have become? They are meditating. Somewhere you’ve got to let go. You are without bodies. This is all bogus. This whole world of people. So shall finish the Shukracharya’s work and get down to some Brihaspati work? So you see Shukracharya was always the material benefits.htm after death and before birth. In all the 21 of 50 19/06/2008 2:57 PM . that is to have mercy. he was very little in height. You will become so powerful that you will become master of the three worlds. that obsession about money is the cause of all your demonical behavior. to control yourself. om namo bhagavate sukaraya . That means you don’t exist. and before birth. Vamana Avatar is the manifestation of all the energies of Jupiter. if he finishes that yagya. So these are transformational changes that happen. a very trying part of our lives. But Shukracharya said forget all this it is bogus. you know? Tremendous knowledge. dama. The three da’s: daya. And there was the Shukaracharya. and swarga loka. All the goodness goes away from you. nobody gets food. Vamana. So the first thing we talked about was Matsya Avatar. He is called by different names. They are following Bhagavan. This God and goodness and spirituality and all is madness. taking the name of God. your mind is obsessed by the fact that you want to live permanently in this world but you will die one day. even by the time he was in his teens. The next avatar we will talk about is the Vamana Avatar. that is Rahu. The entire concept of money. have the ice cream. why are you listening to the guru? Why are you wasting your time? That is Shukracharya. then we talked about Varaha Avatar. you must not forget the dana. And you do the secret mantras you will become very powerful.Vyasa SJC Guna and Das Avatar lecture http://shrifreedom. So Rahu and Ketu mean you don’t exist. At that point of time Bali decided to do the ultimate yagya. that you’ve got to live only for money. And then when he became all-powerful the demons what are the demons? The demons are those who believe in the materialistic view of life. The materialistic philosophy that he who has the money will be the boss. That is why these grahas have the power of eclipsing without a body. So Shukracharya wanted to make Bali the king of the worlds. And the third one. They eclipse your mind. why are you wasting your time listening to this fellow’s talk about religion and the scriptures? This is all bogus. Very young in age but he had mastered all the Vedas and all the scriptures and the entire body of Vedic literature was within him. So. And Shukracharya told the king. somewhere you’ve got to realize that that is a thin line and you should not cross over that thin line. that is what will be taught. Shukracharya. You must not forget daya. I’ll tell you some secret mantras. when he was born and as a kid. and dana. within you all the goodness goes away. and just follow. if you have to be boss. And that madness. something has to be destroyed for a new birth to occur. Jupiter. So whenever we have nodes making an indicator of a change in our life it means a very terrible change. The three da’s. they are trying to be good. they are trying to meditate. that is to give. he said. In your existence your life is a spectrum of light and these are points after death that is Ketu. that listen. a small kid. And Bali listened to Shukracharya and he did all these yagyas and mantras and things and he became all-powerful. But at that time he was born in a brahmin family. Venus. and that yagya. bhuvah.com/VyasaSJC/OpeningLecture. His name. Self-control is very important. that money will rule the world. you have to teach the importance of materialism. many people say Upendra. come on. All the evil qualities come inside you because of this mad pursuit of money. people have gone mad. The Shukracharya was the teacher of the demons. Varaha was Sukaraya.

So Upendra went to visit the yagya. his water pot. said the mantra and threw the blade of grass. There are certain rules to what he can ask. So everybody was asking the king “Who is this little brahmin who has come? Why has he come?” “What do you want little fellow? So he said. step one. I am the king of the world. The king had said “I am the king. so if he becomes blind he cannot do anything. Brihaspati. So people were asking for gold. See if I am the king whatever you want. wherever you are in the skies. one who will follow the path of Shukra and one who will follow the path of Jupiter.” He said “I want three steps. I will become the laughing stock of the world.” At that point in time he turned and went away.” Everybody started laughing. Keep this in mind. The little fellow. my eyes.Vyasa SJC Guna and Das Avatar lecture http://shrifreedom.” Now at that point of time Shukracharya. one Shukra’s path and one Brihaspati’s path. he saw what was going to happen and he told the king “Tell that little brahmin you will give him nothing and ask him to get out of here. The blade of grass. There was a queue of brahmins and priests and this and that waiting to take alms from him. And he went over there and he saw the king. I will give you. holding a little thing.” So he then did the sankalpa and didn’t listen to Shukracharya. Today dharma will perish once and for all. his weapon was his mala. And he throws the water over you with the mantras. What a fool. There will be two kinds of astrologers. Shukracharya was also a brahmin. “Are you sure you will give me whatever I want?” The king said “Of course I will give you whatever you want. and step three. Three feet of land.” The king said “What’s wrong with you? If I ask him to get out. Upendra. let me go over there. please save us.htm three worlds he will have the mastery and then Brihaspati could not take it anymore. Again Shukracharya tried to tell him something. OK. At that point of time Upendra came. O God. there is a big yagya going on. what is he going to ask me? What can he ask me that I cannot give him? He cannot ask me for my kingdom because I am the king. Whenever you are having a Venus-related problem pick up a blade of grass and say the mantra of Ganesha. At that point of time the little brahmin picked up a blade of grass. jyotish. So then the king went forward and he said “OK give the sankalpa” and he asked the little kid “what do you want. He has known jyotish sastra. all your life changes.com/VyasaSJC/OpeningLecture. Brihaspati said “This is the heights of it. for cattle. Whatever land is there that I can measure with three feet I will take. the king can give you anything you ask 22 of 50 19/06/2008 2:57 PM . step two. So he picked up the blade of grass. tell me what you want. Shukra will become blind. The blade of grass is very important. So Shukracharya immediately could foresee what was going to happen. and he was giving it away. and his malas. By his knowledge of astrology. His power is in his eyes. for wealth of all kinds. and Shukracharya became blind in the left eye. dharma will perish today. There are two kinds of jyotishis. the durva grass has the power to stop the trouble from Venus. The blade of grass became a bee and it stung Shukracharya in his left eye. He had no more weapons. The little brahmin came. and the water pot is a blessing. That’s what he is. He had to go because of his eyes. And if Sukra becomes blind he cannot do anything. If you pick up the blade of grass and say the mantra of Ganesha. and like a little brahmin clutching his kamandalu. He had nothing. I want land for three steps. All the time keep that in mind. He was holding his eye crying “Oh my eyes. who was a brahmin.” And this little brahmin who was there decided. Shukra’s real power is in his eyes.

one who is beyond the three gunas. nobody exists anymore. Simply because the master doesn’t have 23 of 50 19/06/2008 2:57 PM . And everybody said ‘ Om bhu. no mother. no brother. That means you are taking sannyasa diksha. Now that became a symbol. Everything in this material world is finished. “Oh my God. If you have not done that you have not got diksha. So Vishnu then said you are now my sishya.” And then Raja Bali had not yet conquered heaven. He said.com/VyasaSJC/OpeningLecture. I want three steps of land. because Vishnu had put his feet. The tradition of guru and sishya in Hinduism. is in three steps. The king could not have imagined in his wildest dreams that this little brahmin could grow and become so huge. Because if I am a true brahmin I don’t have any other want and if I don’t have any other want. Is it not interesting? It teaches us how we learn from the master. And when he does that he is supposed to show the world to you.Vyasa SJC Guna and Das Avatar lecture http://shrifreedom. the entire imagination is based upon your mind. If he does not do that he is not your diksha guru. It is beyond your imagination. Because as soon as he put his foot over there. See the king could not imagine.htm and you want three steps of land. Since you are my sishya and you have both. And he placed his third step on the head of the king. Vamana is Vishnu. all the entire bhuva loka and swarga loka in just one step. that is the length of land that you need to be buried. The first step is bhu. So he asked “Where should I put my third step? You promised me three feet. I don’t want anything else. When you get diksha the feet will be on your head. the limitations of my mind. If he cannot do it. He started towering and with one step he measured the Earth. He was about to conquer that with this yagya. Even my wildest imaginations of my mana. Vamana is that which is going beyond the mind. “I’m not greedy. And when Bali died. King if you want to give it. This one is completely detached. three steps. That means you are performing your last rites. It is called bali. The next is the entire bhuvah and swarga. That is a must. how can I ask you for anything? Only the king understood at that point of time this is not an ordinary brahmin. Hence you deserve to be a king. hence Bali was ready for moksha. Bhagavan. swarga he had not conquered as yet because Indra was still there. So Bali went on to become the king of one of the lower worlds. God Himself. OK? As a part of the diksha this is a must. The guru has to place his right foot on the head of the sishya. the second step. on the head. you are to consider yourself as being dead. give it. so that no son. In the second step he measured it. he doesn’t want anything else. Your ego is finished. And at that moment Raja Bali died. So huge he had become. These are the three steps. that means that which is beyond the mana. I have not even imagined this. Since Vishnu became the guru of Bali.” So the king then realized. please be the king.” Why does he want three steps of land? Because three steps of land means when you measure your feet. he does not have the knowledge. What is mana? Mana is the mind. you have crossed it. you have transcended the limitations of the mind. it means he has become your guru.” And in the next step he measured all the heavens. Then only you get the final mukta diksha. And diksha. no father. and when he places his feet on your head. “OK. He has to do that and he should know how to do it. He is asking only for three steps so he can be laid in peace. or getting a guru. So ‘ Om bhuvah. that means you are leaving all your attachment. So he said. Vamana. I still promised to give you whatever you wanted. That is a diksha guru. I don’t want gold. That is all that I need. that is diksha. I don’t need anything else. he was humbled at that point. transcends the limits of the mind. actually he would crash because the feet are on him. that which crosses. Then you have got a diksha guru. So that became symbolic of guru-sishya parampara. your ahamkar is gone.” And so he bowed. as soon as he died.” So he did that and the little brahmin was the Vamana Avatar. If your ego is finished you are no longer a demon. So it is even that you are dead. When you die that is the step that you want to rest in peace. What is bowing? Being humble. keep that in mind.

You may give a one hour reading. All astrology for them is only for material gains. So the important part of this particular episode of the Vamana Avatar is how to get moksa. Don’t forget to remind that. As astrologers we have to be very responsible. as a guru. What was the king thinking? I am so rich. So you need to buy a diamond with a black spot in it. to get over the senses. vamanaya. that is a book. If your learning does not lead to that of what use is the learning? No matter how much you learn all the learning is useless if it is not going to lead you there. the guru doesn’t have things. very difficult to find the perfect guru. (Q) You mentioned the two types of gurus Shukacharya and Brihaspati. whatever you want I will give it to you. You spend fifty-nine minutes talking all about the personal life of the person but at least one minute say some words. Diamond with a black spot. Shelter will always come at the feet of the guru. protection will always come at his feet. 24 of 50 19/06/2008 2:57 PM . By the blessings of the Vamana Avatar. And the guru comes from Aum because guru is ultimately a god. Why? Which shastra says this. They say all that is in the Vedas nothing works or if it works they will be giving like that. Only that all the time. Last night I got a mail from some person saying he had gone to an astrologer saying I just wanted to clarify this with you. So that is the Vamana Avatar and that is the essence of all learning. He has all the three worlds. I am so powerful. You will not be a slave of your senses. Use some of these words so that something comes into the head of the person. Don’t forget to remind the person that he is a spirit being in a material body. Shukracharya represents those astrologers who are only focusing on material gains. We would only spread avidya [ignorance] instead of spreading vidya [knowledge]. Now must we have a guru in the physical form? I don’t know. so why be attached to the body. You need a guru to get moksha. You do not get moksha without a guru. They never teach spiritual astrology. That the body is not going to be with him. Have you ever heard of such things? The heights of cheating. And also. some words of Brihaspati. if you do the mantra Om namo bhagavate vamanaya. and the third step is to go into complete samadhi. I went to an astrologer and he said that Saturn was in some conjunction with some Moon. All I am saying is I know that you have to do the work of Shukra in this world but do not forget to do the work of Brihaspati. But in any case. The Vamana Avatar story tells us about our responsibilities. buying other things. you have nothing. Every astrologer worth his salt knows it. see you have donated alcohol. no matter how much you have been steeped in sin because of Shukra. Why will he want to give you? So there are so many things involved in this. Why should he buy a flawed diamond when you know it is bad for him. They will never even by mistake think that if a person has come to be at an astrologer have a little responsibility to tell the person at least one mantra or something about Ista Devata. Vamana Avatar . These are questions that will be answered by the gurus themselves. you will transcend the bondage of the mind in this body. remember there is always one from where you can take shelter. right? Because he was able to transcend those three worlds. what are the differences? (S) The primary difference is that those who follow the Shukacharya’s line are asuric. Actually what he has you don’t have. It also teaches us an important factor that when you think that everything is lost in this world. That is the basic job of an astrologer. In this Kali Yuga it will be very difficult to find the correct guru. You see the guru is a very peculiar thing. selling a car. buying a house. Being in this body you will transcend the control of the mind and the senses.Vyasa SJC Guna and Das Avatar lecture http://shrifreedom. We cannot afford to be irresponsible because if we are very irresponsible the society around us will become totally irresponsible. throw a party and distribute alcohol and people will get drunk. so we need to be very responsible.com/VyasaSJC/OpeningLecture. do not underestimate his ability.htm money. Go throw alcohol in the water. you will get over your senses. the first step is to get over bhu loka. so with some Venus. For example the Sikhs treat the Guru Granth Sahib. the perfect guru may not want to give you diksha. The next step is to get over all the desires and karma.

The purity of relationship is very. stop. the sage puts his hands up and tells the horse to stop. Yama. And at the same time Parashurama’s father’s ashrama which was next to Parashara’s ashrama. So the horses pulled back. Venus was told that. And he made two wheels 25 of 50 19/06/2008 2:57 PM . The horses stopped. listen just like Jupiter has the overall control over teaching and the learning process. Jamadagni was an advisor to the Haihayas. Here the object of the lesson is that we have to understand the meaning of all relationships and the purity of relationships. It is not right. Jama. The ladies over there were raped. that is to have spiritual learning. Attachment must be to one. and with the flat side of the sword he just attacked him. Parashurama realized at that point of time that I got defeated because I did not know how to fight. “What are you doing? We are supposed to be teaching the Vedas. picked up his sword. So the Haihayas got on to lead the horses to the charge.com/VyasaSJC/OpeningLecture. Did you know that Parashara had become lame? Parashara became lame because of that attack. So Jamadagni refers to the fire of death. Jupiter graha. Impure relationships cause serious sin. So then Parashara got very badly injured. his leg was completely broken. and Parashara went and stood in the middle and just put his hand up like that. that is your attachment should always be to one. If we don’t have spiritual learning we have no meaning. Parashurama Avatar is the Venus Avatar. can you imagine? Parashurama was kidnapped and he was taken as captive and kept with the Haihaya king so that his father would come and work for them in the temple. right? That’s what we learn from the Vamana Avatar. Agni is fire. I must learn these weapons and these horses from these Haihayas. Here the most important thing was the lesson of Shukra. Jama means the lord of death. he was a great warrior. They retaliated very badly. if you see the life story of Parashurama. He was in the neighborhood. so do not have impure relationships. You are not following dharma at all. called Parashurama. So he took his chariot next to him. So he learned weapons and horses and he designed the wheel. agni. He was the son of Jamadagni. And his complete ashrama was burned down. in the neighboring ashram to his father’s.. even that was burned down. So the Haihayas got very angry. a great sage called Jamadagni. He developed the battle ax. Parashurama was the son of a sage. Parashu means ax. you see he learned. So cannibalism was quite prevalent in India in those days. The Haihayas were a cannibal tribe. Venus was also a graha. So you see Parashurama was born to Jamadagni after Jamadagni listened to Parashara. Be very clear in your mind about your relationship with everybody. his name was Rama. not many. And Parashurama was also kidnapped. this Parashara is somebody. At the same time they attacked his ashram they also attacked Parashara’s ashram and completely burned it down. the graha Brihaspati symbolizing all the learning that we do and the ultimate objective of the knowledge.htm 10 Parasurama Following this episode of Jupiter’s winning back of the worlds is the story of Parashurama Avatar. Now. very important because it is in the purity of the relationship that no sin is accrued. or he who can conquer the fire of death. He went and formed an ashram. not many. these cannibals. So then the Haihaya king saw that Jamadagni had left him. So the Parashurama Avatar. You cannot have multiple attachments. So they charged up to him but the horses could not cross the sage. while on the other hand you are going giving advice about all this about mantras and yantras and all to these Haihayas. the chariots and horses were charging. he knows something. They came and completely destroyed Jamadagni’s ashram. That is how Parashara became lame. So at that point of time Parashurama learned the art of weapons. The king realized OK. They said the horses were charging. So now we come to the Parashurama Avatar.Vyasa SJC Guna and Das Avatar lecture http://shrifreedom. and he became unconscious. It was a terrible time. completely destroyed it. I don’t know who this fellow is but he is somebody. his mother was kidnapped by the Haihayas and kept with them. How did he become a great warrior? There was this great sage in those days called Parashara. The whole army is charging. Parashara told Jamadagni. kidnapped his son. Parashara was such a brave one. so the Haihayas got mad.

htm and he made a chariot. And finally one kshatriya was born called Ram. So Parashurama killed his mother. and ran for their lives. She’s going and staying with this Haihaya king. What does it mean? That means. Subsequently. Why did Parashurama kill his mother? See. so don’t take sides. It’s a terrible thing to know. standing and talking to each other and both are avatars of God. for twenty-one generations. A very. both are God. Venus killed his mother. He’s always thinking about beautiful vehicles. killed his own mother. Only those kshatriyas who took shelter under Ganesha. That means. the destruction of Mars. formed a band. Is it not? There is no other way to insure it. it just shows the hatred of a son whose mother goes away with somebody 26 of 50 19/06/2008 2:57 PM . So Parashurama designed that vehicle and he also designed modern weapons to fight these Haihayas and formed a very powerful band. (S) Because the father (Jamadagni) was the head priest of the Haihayas. he said. Parashurama destroyed all the kshatriyas. and he attacked the Haihayas. Because you are the better half of your half. And this band he learned from the Haihayas. until the children are all born. I am Sanjay Rath so I must be the son of Rath. survived the slaughter of Parashurama. twenty-one is associated with Venus. whose side will you take? What is the important lesson we learned? You can’t take sides when it comes to matters of Venus. Venus is the ruler of vehicles. And only those kshatriyas who could worship Ganesha survived. You just can’t take sides. How else will we know whose child it is? The lineage is based on truth because truth is ultimately to be established. What does it mean? Venus is a designer of vehicles. leaving his father. a two-wheeled chariot. vahanas. for twenty-one generations.Vyasa SJC Guna and Das Avatar lecture http://shrifreedom. that my father must be connected to insure that there is a lineage. Only Ganesha can save you from a very. The same story. So he was a great designer of vehicles. what happens to my lineage? Because the lineage is the law.com/VyasaSJC/OpeningLecture. That’s how you can insure it otherwise there is no other way to insure it. and his only condition is. let us say. His problem is. and he put a horse in between. If Venus has been given the responsibility. It is the responsibility of Venus as a graha to continue a lineage. that means that when you are under attack by a very negative Venus take shelter in Ganesha. So the Parashurama Avatar and the Ram Avatar were concurrent. His father told him your mother has become totally impure. here are two beings. (Q) So why didn’t they kill the father. Parashurama killed his mother. the mother has to insure that she does not have any contact with anybody else. saying that you warriors are the cause of all the destruction and killing of this world. what is the important factor? When a child is born who says the child belongs to so and so father? Who knows other than the mother? So when we talk of lineage. And if it is your responsibility. very negative Venus. the Haihaya. It is foolish. who stopped Parashurama in his tracks. if let us say that you have been given the responsibility to insure that. So this fellow was so mad he even killed his mother. He designed all that. (Q) Why did he kill his mother? (S) Because his father told him to kill his mother. Otherwise this Venus can ruin you. lineage comes from Venus. how will you insure it? By insuring that the woman who is giving birth to the child is mating with that man. How can you continue a lineage when you don’t know whose the father and whose the son? Do you see the problem? So Venus has a problem. destroyed the Haihayas and completely rid the whole western part of India from all cannibals. Because his own mother had gone over to the Haihayas. of course. This is the most important episode of the Parashurama Avatar. Nobody kills their own head priest. Now see the thing. very important lesson. and told him you have no right to continue this destruction and ended it. after that I’ll surrender. One is Parashurama Avatar and one is Ram Avatar and both of these avatars are talking to each other. I will kill all of you. there are no sides.

remember he went into meditation. (Q) Then why should we be criticizing others? (S) Who is criticizing? (Q) The Indians. Satyavati. that is. “You have nothing to worry. You will have to deal with this problem carefully. because what did he see after all he is losing his wife and he has to give some blessing to his wife for having given him such a nice son. That is an astrologer’s word. when he opened his eyes. So if Parashara muni could do that what is wrong with other people being in love? Is there something wrong if a boy and a girl are in love? There is nothing wrong. 27 of 50 19/06/2008 2:57 PM .” As destiny would have it. Parashara was not married to her. Parashara’s words did not fail. who releases his wife.htm else. So she was the fisherman’s daughter. I will take my son with me. Parashara had a gandharva. For the first time. And that was to his own wife whom he was releasing. that he blessed her to become the queen of India. You know what gandharvavivaha is right? They were attracted to each other and had sex.” and he tells his father-in-law. Parashurama. Parashara. He respects relationships and blesses her “may you be the queen of India. So then the son understands the relationships. Parashara muni himself. “You will be. and blesses her in front of Veda Vyasa. And he. Parashara clearly divorced his wife. and Satyavati. he was in love. So this lady. So if anybody ever asks you that divorce is not there in the scriptures tell them that this is what Sanjay taught. only in a moment of weakness. And after sometime Parashara muni went away because he had to go for his job. See the reaction of our lineage to a similar situation. that she shall be the queen of Bharat.Vyasa SJC Guna and Das Avatar lecture http://shrifreedom. So his father-in-law asked him “What shall happen to my daughter if you will take your son away? While father and son go around like monks. He had to go from all those ashramas to ashramas teaching them jyotish and all those things. OK? You must understand. That means divorce was there in those days and Parashara muni has sanctioned divorce. who is considered an avatar. he did not go around the sacred fire. What is release? Divorce. And then Parashara came back to take his son one day. A lady was looking after him. (Q) So there is a scriptural sanction for divorce? (S) I’ve given you an example of Parashara. Now Parashara got hit by the sword of the Haihayas. That is what a jyotishi is. found himself in a fisherman’s house. I will teach my son all the mantras and everything I know. she had nursed him back. I’ll teach you the other part.” It is important to release a woman so that she becomes free. And then the way they described it there was a beautiful flower and a beautiful sun shone in the sky and Parashara was not himself. He said “No problem.com/VyasaSJC/OpeningLecture. gave birth to Veda Vyasa. had gandharvavivaha. he did not have a brahmavivaha. he walks from one place to another. the reaction of Jupiter and show you why our lineage is very great. Parashara muni. What will happen to my daughter? I’m worried about my daughter. frees his wife. She went on to become the queen of India.” that means his mantra shakti was so much. from this moment I release her. opened his eyes and look at the greatness of this man who has come to take his son. You must deal with this problem very carefully. even then he blessed her. the Hindus do. and here Parashara. This is one reaction. See what the parampara teaches. one moment of weakness in his life. Many people in this world suffer this problem. it does not fail. he has nothing. Veda Vyasa himself was born like that. and in that one moment of weakness. As jyotishis you will find so many charts with this problem. who killed his mother because his father said so. Veda Vyasa came into the stomach of Satyavati. Now see the two contrasting sages. He has no house. for giving this son to me.” I see. So then Parashara sat down in deep meditation and then he opened his eyes and said “I bless her. What was the name of the lady? Satyavati. One. there was no anger over there. And his leg was completely bandaged and the fisher people were looking after him.

you will destroy your own house. the bows of Shiva. You don’t want me to kill my mother because she did that so I killed my mother. He transcends attachment. creating something out of nothing. There are so many types of breaking of marriages. and he said. and one he gave to Parashurama. So.htm (S) They do. So he represents all creativity. Hare Rama Krishna is the mantra of Rishi Janak. It is a very powerful mantra. You must know what is good and what is not good. that is the Sun. we have learned about Parashurama Avatar. if you allow Venus or emotions to run amuck you will be behaving like a mad man. string this 28 of 50 19/06/2008 2:57 PM . Venus represents creativity. It is the bow of Janaka.Vyasa SJC Guna and Das Avatar lecture http://shrifreedom. He obeyed his father. So Shiva had two bows. You saw Parashurama Avatar. What is it that makes him an avatar? The thing about Parashurama Avatar was his brilliance and his creative ability. or when Venus has a strong influence on your destiny.com/VyasaSJC/OpeningLecture. Twenty-one times he killed all the kshatriyas. When Venus rules somebody’s nature. The new avatar has come in front. Now Shiva’s bows were undoubtedly the most powerful bows so when Janaka had his daughter. So we learned about Venus and its nature as a graha. and now Rama. You see that? No control. They should learn jyotish from me. The entire creation that is taking place is because of the seed called shukra. Because you told me such a bad thing I became a sinner and she had to die. And he saw this young man standing in front. because his father told him to kill his mother. It is not good. Do you see the point? For example. But that is not sanctioned by our lineage. He always created for the purpose of giving. There are eight types of marriages. The thing about him is that every time he creates something it is not for himself. so the worship of Parashurama Avatar is not liked by our lineage. Sita. the bow of Shiva. But because his father had made him so he killed his father also. What is all this? A world of emotions. the ways of Venus. So do not allow Venus to sit on the head. Lord Shiva had two bows. (Q) What do you mean by sitting on the head? (S) It means ruling your nature. He was not attached to his creation. He transcended the gunas in his creativity. What is that? Kidnapping somebody and getting married to her. smiling over there with Shiva’s bow broken. when did the Parashurama Avatar end? Parashurama Avatar ended when Lord Shiva had two bows. He’s an avatar but there is nothing worshipable in this. my deeds are over. They do not like all these things. You see that? So it is not good. that is there problem. In our lineage we say what is there to worship? There is nothing worshipable about this. “Who did that?” He said “This boy did that. must shine. He killed his father telling him what he made him do was wrong. So. Even rakshashavivaya is that. Those who learn jyotish from me will never criticize anybody else. my time is finished. He created the chariot out of nothing. Gandharva is one of them. you will fight with your father. you will cause havoc. all creation. When Venus has an eclipse on your head these sort of things will happen. one he gave to Rishi Janaka. do you know about this story? Sita’s marriage and how Rama came and lifted the bow and pulled it and the bow broke. Perfect obedience. one bow he had given to Janak whose mantra I taught you in the morning. He said “Who dared break Shiva’s bow? And he picked up the other bow of Shiva and came to attack.” At that moment he realized my avatar is over. He said. He created this entire concept of creative weapons. You have to understand that different people have different ways. Hare Rama Krishna. He created the wheel. this is what will happen in your destiny. What did he mean by that? So you see these are not good ways. When the bow broke it made a terrible sound and that sound was heard by Parashurama and Parashurama went mad. You will fight with your mother. Why did Parashurama kill his mother? Was it a good thing to do? Parashurama Avatar symbolizes the perfect obedience. to get married. it is called the Janaka sadakshari. he killed his mother. how it is. So what is Venus all about? Emotions going berserk.

a person who is determined to fulfill his tapasya. my house. You can stay in the house without attachment to the house. See. in the lineage later on we see that it is not the worship of Parashurama Avatar. We worship him the way he worshipped in Rishikesh. Ram Avatar is said to be the avatar of dharma. beauty lies not in eating the biscuit but in giving it to someone else to eat. He picked up the most powerful weapon that he possessed. You see. We can’t even give somebody a tire. all that I don’t like. We are all under the grasp of Venus. one who can meditate. There was a king who was not even attached to the pillow on which he sat. Marriage is about giving and giving. You have to transcend the attachment. It is an infallible arrow. that is. I don’t like Parashurama killing mother. my house. Try to understand. That is why we say: Om namo bhagavate Rishikeshaya. Marriage is not about taking and giving. and that is the most difficult part of the marriage. Can you do that? Do you have Venus in the 6th? When you see horoscopes. let it go with the arrow. We do the mantra of that form of Parashurama which is called the last form. the more attached you are to your spouse the more difficult your marriage will become. my wife. When you transcend the attachment. who made that bow for Shiva? Parashurama made that bow. (Q) Rishikesh also symbolizes dyana [meditation]. He can create anything out of nothing. what to talk of a car. They should know different rasi and navamsa. That is Parashurama Avatar. but no. We will go into tapasvi yoga and all later. now yours. what you need to transcend. Venus causes tapasvi yoga. So the bow which was there with Parashurama. that is what Venus is all about. Do it honestly. You have to transcend the attachment of your creation. the embodiment of righteousness and all that is good. but it is said an arrow of Rama cannot fail. So then Venus also indicates a great tapasvi. Parashara advises that we should worship Parashurama Avatar. look at the 6th house to find what your weakness is. It is called Shukra graha. (S) That is what he did. 11 Rama and Krsna The next avatar is the Rama Avatar. the bow of Shiva. To get away from it we have to worship a certain form of the avatar. that is what Janak Rishi is all about. Venus is all about giving not taking. This is Shukra in the negative. the whole thing should be clear. and by the time I come next time they should know everything. Shukra is all about creation. This position shows to what extent Venus is sitting on our head. Shukra graha is strong on us. We like Parashurama as the one who went to meditate. If you have made this biscuit. We study Parashurama Avatar to understand what Venus is all about. We have to teach all that.htm bow in front of me and it will be yours. And for him duty has been everything in his life to the extent that he 29 of 50 19/06/2008 2:57 PM . He was an avatar because he transcended all his creation. my this thing. you are giving without feeling happiness. the dharma avatar. All my anger. That is the problem. a Sun who is totally duty bound. The mantra we don’t do of Parashurama Avatar. he was a great creator. After he gave the bow to Rama he renounced all his weapons. Rama strung the bow and let an arrow into the universe. Shiva said where did the arrow go? So Parashurama said there is only one place where it can go. shining. my car. That is Parashurama Avatar. those of you know a little about astrology. my child. now yours.Vyasa SJC Guna and Das Avatar lecture http://shrifreedom. killing father. The greatest of the people who meditate is indicated by Venus also. fulfilling material needs. All the weapons he gave to Rama and he went over to Rishikesh to meditate. and he handed it over to Rama and happily walked away. But for whom? Not for himself. So with the arrow all his anger went away. Who can do that? People cling to their possessions like God knows what. Shukra in the positive: my car.com/VyasaSJC/OpeningLecture. or joy or sadness you will see the relationship will become superb. In the Ram Avatar we see the Sun in all it’s glory. All my anger must go to the arrow. one who can do tapas. And he strung the bow and he left an arrow.

In both cases we are talking of detachment. To study the entire Kurma Avatar because of limited time.Vyasa SJC Guna and Das Avatar lecture http://shrifreedom. And Kurma. Om namo bhagavate Vasudevaya is for Sri Krishna. and in the other case it is material possessions. So the shell is also a shelter. painful life. Sri Ram: Om namo bhagavate Maharajaya. Krishna Avatar is about transcending all mental bondage. So Ram Avatar is all about the Sun and Krshna Avatar is all about the Moon. on the West Coast. Moon. aren’t we? We are sinners. It is a normal human attitude. Don’t fail when the call of duty comes. which is stuck to us. that body of sin which we are carrying on our back. Are you seeing the difference? In Rama. Luck doesn’t come because the hard shell is resisting and we are so touchy about it that when we see something we become frightened and we withdraw inside that shell. Ram Avatar should be studied with the Ramayana and with the chart in front. 12 Kurma Now. In the last conference. nobody can give like Rama. Parashurama and Rama. Our mind is like that. And how to be a great giver. The graha Saturn causes the person to carry the burden of his sin. nobody can give like Rama. we’ll talk a little bit about Kurma Avatar. I will do a little bit of Ram Avatar. do you agree or don’t agree? So Saturn represents that sin. right? It’s very difficult to even think of a kingdom. Kurma Avatar. that which we are stuck with. So you see. Now Ram Avatar is not just to be studied like this. No way! So you see these things are important. go over to the jungle. It will start immediately. of giving up. What is drdha? Drdha is that which is hard. So I will just touch on it slightly. it withdraws into the shell. a normal animal attitude. How many guys would do that? We will fight for a little car. Saturn Avatar. The hard shell represents the sin.htm has led a very lonely life of a perfect king. which is not going away.com/VyasaSJC/OpeningLecture. You observe somebody who is a sinner and you tell him you are doing this sin he will take shelter within that sin by justifying that sin. slowly walk through this horrible life. we will do that. it is the case of giving up false kingdom. Ram Avatar and Krshna Avatar. Saturn. Some people say Om namo bhagavateRajendraya also. Sarbani covered Kurma to quite an extent. they stay away from us. it is drdha. I will just touch on certain portions. Shukra Avatar. your kingdom will be looked after by your brother. that is. Saturn. Saturn represents the drdha karma. In one case it is personal relationships.” Perfectly fine. so hard that it is like a hard shell on our back. We want so many things but nothing comes our way because sin is so heavy on us that nobody wants to be attracted. the next time that I come. or the tortoise. Om namo bhagavate Vasudevaya. because that is the nature of sin. the jyotish class when we do it at a really advanced level. a perfect king and a perfect warrior. We are like that. which is so hard. even today we say it. what’s beautiful about it? Nobody wants to hang around us. all bondage of the mind. we will study with the horoscopes. But om namo bhagavate Maharajaya is for starting raja yogas. For the Sun. he walks off. it is holding 30 of 50 19/06/2008 2:57 PM . Parashurama Avatar. His father told him “OK. When you touch it. Saturn symbolizes the burden of sin. That sin is such a hard shell on your back. Kurma. drdha karma. OK. Because of the heavy burden on us we are to slowly. we were talking of . Why is it stuck to us? Because it is stuck to our minds. Drdha means that which cannot be broken. is symbolic of that. The important thing that we learn about Ram Avatar is how never to be failing in one’s duty. the Sun and Moon. We take shelter in our own sin by doing more sin. The back of the turtle is a hard shell and the tortoise is a very funny creature. that which refuses to leave us. unattached to any material position whatsoever. In Venus. The astrology begins.see both the names. There is nothing very beautiful about the tortoise. All of us are sinners. If you want the raja yogas in your horoscope to start properly: Om namo bhagavate Maharajaya .

And when the churning took place a lot of poison came out. It is not some kind of pacific this thing on some day or something. and what happened to that? The sin was churned by the karma. the Kurma Avatar is right below that and your sins are right there. What is the water? The water of karma. your body will be destroyed. it is difficult for it to go. By us defining what is right and wrong based upon a certain culture that we live in. At least the other one knows it is bad. it is bad.com/VyasaSJC/OpeningLecture. If you don’t say it. Ha is akash. What was the name of the poison? Hala hala. the tortoise. Here mosquitoes. terrible diseases will come over you. So. the planets going around. When you draw the chart of the heavens the center of the horoscope is Mount Meru. believe me. The poison will burn you so badly that you will not know. The beauty of sin is we can always justify it. “OK. When the planets go round and round they are churning the spindle of your karma. how to cause it to go? It is not easy. and how does disease come? From you. The horoscope that you draw. It is the ocean of karma. So who is the real helper? It is Shiva. That is the worst part of sin.” No.Vyasa SJC Guna and Das Avatar lecture http://shrifreedom. So what did Shiva do? Shiva drank your karmic poison. you just killed them like that. so many times. what is the most important thing that you learn about the Kurma Avatar story? Since you are born on this planet you must say Om namah Shivaya. la is a descent. We are afraid to go outside that culture and face some other culture where we would be called sinners. How did you cause your disease? From your sin. How to make that sin go from us. How many mosquitoes you kill? They had lives. I drink too much. they had to go back. and when it comes into your life you will burn. That is the beauty of the sin. That sin goes when we churn the karma. That sin doesn’t go easy. Below the horoscope is the Kurma Avatar. and hence we don’t know it is sin. To know that a sin is a sin is a big blessing. unlimited. What is the tortoise? The tortoise is our sin and we put it inside water. So the poison that was coming down to destroy us was picked up by Shiva like that and Shiva drank it. Hala hala is poison. you have caused your own disease. that poison would have come into your life.” is much better than a person who takes one drink and says “I just take one drink and it’s good for health. your body will be destroyed every day. Our mind justifies it. But it is like a spindle. he helps you to 31 of 50 19/06/2008 2:57 PM . I’m taking it. Hlim. We justified it. How many mosquitoes you have killed. We don’t even know how many murders we have done and we don’t even think it’s important. ocean of karma. Hala will be removed by Hara. You never thought of them. ha and la when put together is poison. Like fire goes up. A person who is taking alcohol and knows it. real savior? Because if Shiva did not drink that poison. What is Mount Meru? Further burden. And the churning of the spindle of your karma. We have to take the karma and we have to churn. la is coming down. So who is your real. they had to take food and go back to their babies. It is symbolic of karma which is so huge like an ocean there is no count. You see. And we like to hang around inside that culture. So what do we do? We take the tortoise and we put the tortoise inside water. And who can take care of hala? Hara. So when the tortoise is put inside the water and then on top of that they put Mount Meru. ra is going up. And who will drink the poison? If Shiva is there he will drink the poison. It is a very big blessing. So what is that Mount Meru? Mount Meru represents the center of the horoscope that you draw. to protect us we have to kill mosquitoes. and the churning is taking place by the planets going round and round and round. Mount Meru is the center of the Earth around which the planets go. So the root cause of disease also comes from Saturn’s Kurma Avatar. Can you count how many ants you have killed in your life? You can’t. what happened when the churning took place? Some poison came out called hala hala. he doesn’t know what is bad. You must say it. Saturn symbolizes disease. He removes the tamas from within you. You see my point? It is a state of mind.htm our minds. It is only when Shiva picks up the poison and drinks it are you saved. where we can justify our sin. that little ant walking over there died. and Saturn becomes the significator of disease. because our own mind is blocking that knowledge of sin.

happiness.” Let him do whatever he’s going to do. Nara means human being. Then you are not bothered. you have to do something. I’m also not worried. Now from that came out a lot of nectar. or Kurma Avatar? (S) There are many ladies when they see a small rat. you will get wealth. So in getting amrita you are not released from the cycle of karma. they are running after to kill the rat. I explained this to you in the beginning of the class. (Q) What about fear? There are sins. God knows. And who knows what is the limit. Krishna and Rama you have to cover with the stories. Moksha is different from amrita. Do it. That means. So as an astrologer you know the value of Om namah Shivaya. Even a tiger cannot defeat him. mana. Do you see my point? You may exist in some state in some. In a strict one-to-one physical battle the lion cannot be defeated. Because that person in front is burning with the poison that is going inside. is purely a blessing of good karma. and the different stages of the mind are based purely upon the sorrow and the churning of the karma. This mental peace. Keep doing it. simha means lion. based upon your karma. Chandra came out. to complete the Ramayana. There is no way for the poison to come out. the more nectar you will get from the churning. when Lakshmi came it was given to Vishnu then we had wealth and then all those good things coming out after that. Maybe when you read it you will know what the good things are. Among all the creatures the most ferocious is the lion. so many other things came out. So what does it mean? The more good karma you have done. What else can it be? Where do we get it now? What else. Who asked you to kill the mosquito? Pick up the phone. Om namah Shivaya. In a battle nobody can beat a lion.htm transcend the tamas. I do not know. And so the nectar is supposed to give you immortality. call somebody else and tell him “I don’t know there is a mosquito over there. the bliss of the mind. but they are created out of fear. (Q) Is there a minimum number we should do? (S) There is nothing called minimum. they only talk of Saturn. Is fear also related to Saturn. They come to see you when the poison drinking becomes difficult. Based upon your karma. Various viewpoints 32 of 50 19/06/2008 2:57 PM . but that does not mean that you have got moksha.com/VyasaSJC/OpeningLecture. It depends on how much poison you have to burn. Nobody will come to see you as an astrologer when good things are coming out from their karma. The strongest is the lion. and take the chart. And you see the men don’t. You may be in a state where you will not die but that doesn’t mean that you have got moksha. As to what moksha is. mental peace or sorrow. Why? So how you react is your nature. So what is left? Narasimha Avatar. A lot of times we do something out of fear. That is why we hear a lot of astrologers talk of sade-sati and things like that. Why? Because of the churning of the oceans. you will enjoy it. It is destroying the body. You can study all the good things that came out.Vyasa SJC Guna and Das Avatar lecture http://shrifreedom. It is very important to understand the Narasimha Avatar from various viewpoints. when good things come out you are not bothered. Now what else came out from the churning? Lakshmi came out. 13 Narasimha and Veda Murtis Narasimha Avatar. So the state of mind has to be seen from Saturn and the churning of the oceans. Because if you have not done Om namah Shivaya you cannot help the person who is in front of you. You are still stuck in that. They do not talk of other planets. “eeeee” they say and they jump on the bed. Amrita is the good things you see in life. it is destroying the happiness of the mind. From the good karmas that you did you got nectar. They cannot sleep at night because of the burning. Narasimha. which spiritual system where you are not changing. Chandra coming out means mind.

I can’t imagine how somebody could be so smart. I’m talking of protection when I’m talking of Mars avatar. They called him Bhakta Prahlad because he knew all the scriptures. He had ego problems. He would just say Om namo bhagavate Vasudevaya and the mantra Om namo Narayanaya. So when your body is getting destroyed you say Om namoNarayanaya.” And she would listen to all the stories and become very happy and go off to sleep. I’m talking of a shield when I’m talking of Mars. one of those demons. there is no Bhagavan. Finally one day his father completely lost his head and told him. shield. Have you all heard of Narada Muni? Narada Muni was a sage.com/VyasaSJC/OpeningLecture. every day and then finally one day the child was born. take him to the jungles. He would go through the whole list. is that. The child turned out to be a great worshipper of Vishnu and his name was Prahlad. he was made to stand in the middle of a burning fire and walk around.” He took over the swarga loka. He had a terrible ego. So he had become the boss of the three worlds in simpler words. Every form of murder possible they tried but he didn’t die. I am all-important. For the protection of the body it is Om namo Narayanaya. See the thing: the king’s wife became pregnant and she was carrying his baby. So she heard that every day. and his father angrily asked him “Where is your Vishnu.” They took him to the jungles. what are you doing?” At that time the king’s wife became pregnant. Narayana is that. I’m talking of a shield when I’m talking of Mars. What’s his name? Hiranyakashipu. And he comes from the air and tells me these beautiful stories about Vishnu. They tried to throw him from the top of a cliff. Whatever mantra it was he kept on saying the three Vishnu kavacha mantras. What kind of a baby am I carrying? Ever since I started carrying this baby every day this great sage is coming to my house. he kicked the kings out of heaven. and he had this beautiful habit that wherever there was some activity or action going on he had to somehow land up over there. And beautiful stories he would say about Narayana is this. 33 of 50 19/06/2008 2:57 PM . cut him and throw him. ego. so smart I mean. saying “What the hell is going on? What kind of son is born in my house who is taking the name of my enemy all the time? This is madness. so he was very mad at Vishnu. There was this demon king. He would always do the most clever things and he was the seed of karma of so many. they were hanging around there floating in suspended animation. it was about sunset time. I am going to destroy all those demons. and your body shall be protected. Do you know Vishnu kavacha? There are three mantras by which Vishnu will always protect you. Narada Muni came. his own father put him on the fire that would burn him to death. When your karma is getting destroyed you say Omnamo bhagavate Vasudevaya . we are talking of ego. There was this Narada Muni. Mars is all about protection.htm are there for Narasimha Avatar. When your mind is getting destroyed you say OmVishnave namaha and your mind is protected. right? It is ego. they tried to cut him and something happened and he lived over there. She said “I’m really fortunate. There were multiple types of punishments he put him through. There was a burning fire. he knew all the things. was very brilliant. nothing. I didn’t talk of a shield before this. and your karma shall be protected. So Indra and others ran to Vishnu “save us. He said. Then they told him “OK. right? We’re talking of protection. save us. His father was completely mad. Kavacha means protection. So.Vyasa SJC Guna and Das Avatar lecture http://shrifreedom. So these three mantras are called the Narayana Kavacha mantras. Nothing happened to him. His brother had been killed by the Varaha Avatar.” What is that? Ahamkar. And he was so smart. the sun had not set fully. So she was so happy and Narada Muni started visiting her every day. “I am going to destroy Vishnu.” So he decided to punish his son. have you gone mad? I am God! You must worship me as God. See. Why are you taking the name of God and this and that. He didn’t die because he was protected by the Narayana Kavacha. Narada. I am going to take over the kingdoms. it was neither day nor night. He survived that. And he said “There is no Rishi. And when she was carrying the king’s baby.

You are aware of it? We never worship the god of war. Then Hayamukha. Mars is all about defense. and the head was of a lion. So Ganesha is not coming into the picture here. Bow. Why should I worship the god of war? Hitler used to worship the god of war. It is called Dhanur Veda . in those areas of the world. See what happened to Hitler. The Rig Veda is taught by the cow head.” “Yes. I’m talking about half-man. so even when it comes to Mars. horse head. And now. What is worship? Worship is a way of appreciation. showing that the senses are that of men. Ganesha the great teacher of the Vedas. So you can see the important message here. the knowledge of the weapon. Murti means form. To have knowledge of weapons you must worship Narasimha. Worship for good things. face. monkey’s head. The great teacher of the Vedas. There is a particular ritual called the tula ritual in which the god of war is worshipped by the Germans. So when it is half-man and half-lion that is the form that is worshipped for knowledge of warfare. No animal can fight the lion.com/VyasaSJC/OpeningLecture. but as a teacher of the Vedas. that is. When the head is that of a lion the mind is like that of a king who is so ferocious that he can destroy anybody. Veda. are you aware of that? Fine. So who are the other teachers of the Vedas? Narasimha is a teacher of Dhanur Veda. And then of course he calmed down when the beautiful mantras were told by Prahlada. OK. He took the king and put him on his thighs and tore open his stomach. 34 of 50 19/06/2008 2:57 PM . Markata means monkey. This is called Ketu’s Veda Murti. The Yajur Veda is taught by Ajamukha. Aja means goat.” So he broke the pillar and from the pillar came this man-lion. Do you know of any deity that has a monkey’s head and a human body? Markendeya. He’s the greatest of the warriors. he is in this pillar right now. Ketu is a murti.Vyasa SJC Guna and Das Avatar lecture http://shrifreedom. appreciate good things in life. for protection. Why was the avatar half man and half lion? We are talking of Mars. Who are the other teachers? Ganesha. nobody can fight him. Ganesha is a great teacher of the Vedas. Dhanur Veda means the knowledge of warfare. half-lion.” “He’s not inside this pillar. The first is Gomukha. The form of the one is like a Veda Murti. we worship the god of peace. Gomukha is half human and half cow. Sama Veda. The head will indicate the kind of intellectual faculty that is there. Half man. has half human body and an elephant’s head.htm where is your God?” So he told him “ He’s with me now. the body was a man. make a note of it. Then the Yajur Veda. Gomukha. with very powerful huge nails. mukha is head. all about protection. I talked of the Narayana Kavacha when I was talking of Mars just now. The four Vedas are taught by Hayagriva. Can you tell me another deity who has got the body of a man and the head of an animal? Ganesha has got it. right? And I have been talking of protection. he is the teacher of the Rig Veda. And what does kavacha mean? Shield. Do not appreciate murder. there is knowledge associated with it. I don’t like to worship the god of war. The head is of a cow and the body is of a human being. What is this worship all about? If you worship for war you’ll get war all the time. I’m just taking the equivalent of Ganesha to show how we are not worshipping Mars as Mars but as a body of knowledge.” “I will break this pillar. Dhanus is the bow.” “Where?” “Everywhere in everything. We do not like to worship Mars as Mars. correct. The body is that of man. knowledge. He’s teaching Atharva Veda. I’m not worshipping the god of war. Mars avatar. And then Markatamukha. we are not worshipping Mars as Mars.

Until you have faith in the knowledge the knowledge is not yours. and sang it and all the knowledge went there. See the point? The importance of faith to the knowledge. (Q) One signification I have never understood is. Be very calm. a little baby.. the sandhi of the house. His father told him “I’ll burn you if you don’t say that Vishnu is like this. It symbolizes the Gayatri. when he was in the womb.Vyasa SJC Guna and Das Avatar lecture http://shrifreedom. So what does it show? Prahlad did not even know who his guru was. It is that faith that makes you the best. sunset. the human. You can be the most learned person in the world but that knowledge is of no use to you if you do not have faith in the knowledge. You see the point? The baby was in the womb so how does he know who taught him? Am I being understood? So he was taught the entire Srimad Bhagavatam. Faith must not be to any individual teacher. so please worship Ganesha. you must have faith in that body of knowledge. The day you learn to say that you will be made the best jyotishi. Prahlad was taught by Narada.” Faith. not inside. And when you have perfect faith in the knowledge the knowledge will never leave you. not day. there is no need to fight.htm Everything has a Veda Murti. elephant. The Gayatris are sunrise. if you want to be the best in something. There are four Gayatris in a day. and all those Puranas. faith is what matters. if you want to do very well in something. sandhi. Right? It’s important.” He said “Why? Burn me? I’m sure he’ll protect me. sandhi. We are transcending doubt. the entire jyotish. When you have faith there is no need to become defensive. not outside. For war Narasimha is the highest. Who is becoming defensive about something? Who is fighting? Persons who don’t have faith. If you know the Veda Murti the Veda knowledge will come to you. I used to do the Shakti Vinayaka mantra. And Narada Muni just looked at him. Shakti. A person who remembers the entire scriptures. So memory comes from Ganesha. So with this you will get tremendous knowledge. Narashimha Avatar you have understood. this knowledge is right. The tremendous faculty of memory comes from Ganesha. the two most important Gayatris.com/VyasaSJC/OpeningLecture. This is the mantra I did for this knowledge. what is the significance of half-man. but I may not be a good jyotishi. the sandhi of man. everything he knew. all the sandhis. Ganesha. You are very cool about it. If you do not have faith in the body of knowledge. the in-betweens. that you will not forget horoscopes. Knowledge will come with devi pranava. Please worship Ganesha if you want the jyotish knowledge. and as you know by now hrim is the bija for Saraswati. When you have faith in your knowledge.. memory. not night. You have faith in the teachings. The knowledge will come to work for you. His guru was Narada. That is all about the Mars avatar. and all the Shiva Puranas. When people ask you “Does jyotish work?” You say “Jyotish works. half-lion. There is one mantra I used to do for a long time. what a memory. and blessed it like that. and 35 of 50 19/06/2008 2:57 PM . (S) It symbolizes turning point. The sandhi of the day. What did Narasimha Avatar transcend? What did he cross over? What did he show us? What is this episode all about? What is the important thing that is being taught to us? Knowledge has no meaning if you do not have faith in the knowledge. faith and knowledge about something. Elephant’s head. So. The faith should be to the knowledge. what a memory it has got. Everything he knew. Om hrim gam hrim Mahaganapatayai namah swaha . You will be able to study all of them.” Say that. The one who gave the knowledge is Narada but he didn’t even know his guru. There are so many mantras for Ganesha. So he had blind faith that yes. When do you become defensive? When you don’t have faith. a faculty for all the Vedas. The Veda Murtis were all given a body with the ability of human beings but the special faculties of that animal. If you want to excel in something. then knowledge can never come to you. And Prahlad was in the womb of his mother. The Rishis will come and help you because you have faith in the knowledge. the knowledge cannot be wrong. the sandhi of. Everything is sandhi. he did not even know who was teaching him.

and tremendous energy. So the sandhis have to do with the Gayatris. who’s setting the standards? I am not waiting for others to set standards. So. way behind. and tremendous faith in that one work. criticize me and my ability. The sandhya is associated with sandhya mangala. So the word sandhya means evening or sunset. If you don’t have discipline you will not have any defense. If I keep worshipping Ganesha every day my faith in jyotish is enforced. There is a turning point in life.htm the midday and the midnight. Yes. Sandhi means a junction between the day and night. I went at it for myself. for example. they change at turning points. Your defense is broken the moment of breaking your daily discipline. provided you have faith. (Q) Should we do a Ganesha mantra for learning jyotish? (S) For any vidya you must. You will get everything from the Veda Murti. but in our tradition we worship Baladev or Balaram. If you have faith you will get the energy. You real defense is your own discipline. And you will succeed. So I set my standards and I went at it myself. You have to put tremendous discipline. my studies indicate for my 36 of 50 19/06/2008 2:57 PM . in that discipline the person has had tremendous faith and has been very disciplined when it comes to that work. The important message of the Narasimha Avatar is if you want to succeed in anything in life you must have faith in yourself. you will get the discipline. The correct mantra for that is actually Om namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya. The sunrise is like the first house. That is why they are in that form. If you have faith in yourself and in your knowledge you will always succeed. So. It has to do with the junction timing. You worship the form. it is dharma. If you want to excel follow this path of the Veda Murti. The knowledge is not wrong. Buddha Avatar is about transcending violence as they say in one word. (Q) But what about energy and discipline? (S) The Veda Murti will give you. What is sandhya mangala? It is a Gayatri. don’t criticize the knowledge. So long as I don’t doubt jyotish. Veda means knowledge. 14 Buddha and Kalki So have we covered everything? Buddha Avatar and nonviolence. So what is the demon all about? The demon is all about things cannot change arbitrarily. The knowledge doesn’t fail. The Veda Murti reinforces your faith in a certain kind of knowledge. Very disciplined. I always said that. I tell people. Then only will you transcend the normal abilities. There is no separate mantra for that. You need strength. It also symbolizes not only turning points in life. It is an embodiment or a form of the knowledge itself. normal success.com/VyasaSJC/OpeningLecture. Murti means the form. way. If any person in this world who has succeeded in any single discipline in life. that Veda form. If you worship Hanuman the knowledge of Atharva Veda is yours. Sandhi means junction. Because I said that I was able to go a step further. Why should I wait for others? One fine day you will turn and look back and they will be way behind you. And this is what my gurudeva taught me: don’t wait for others to set standards for you. So long as I am worshipping Ganesha I will never doubt jyotish. They will still be struggling with things like vimshottari dasa. And you must have the energy of Mars to work for it. and each time I excelled myself. you need strength at turning points in life. the Gayatris. you need to have the memory of an elephant. You define your boundaries of success. So the essence is that Mars plays a crucial factor in the sandhya mangala. It shows the spiritual discipline required. that is where they are.Vyasa SJC Guna and Das Avatar lecture http://shrifreedom. you will have the faith and the energy and the discipline or whatever is required. When the turning point will come. I failed. when the sandhi will come then sandhya will occur. if you want to criticize. The abilities that are required are with that Veda Murti. The thing about a subject like jyotish. not at all the times. Because Buddha is also supposed to be the Moon’s child. Veda means to get the knowledge.

The Jagannath Temple has a blue light that goes above it. When the Jagannath Temple breaks the Kalki Avatar comes. It will be broken. See. And he is depicted as the Kalki Avatar. he is always shown. So when they come to break it. we do not understand the whole thing. It’s all about nonviolence. Chaitanya Mahaprabhu has recorded that he has seen it. It’s unbelievable. 37 of 50 19/06/2008 2:57 PM . The cause of the avatar to come will be because the Jagannath Temple at Puri will break. Is it not crazy? Yes. At the end of Kali Yuga the Kalki Avatar will come. They are going to wait for the next God knows how many hundred thousand years. in all the pictures as riding a white steed. So many times the situations came to break it and each time they were smart enough to save it. by then men would have become very tiny. We can’t see it but Shankaracharya has recorded seeing it. So I transcend the need for reaction and all that. When he comes the Jagannath Temple will break. He is supposed to manifest at the end of this yuga. the last. vegetarianism. The important thing about Buddha Avatar is transcending violence. He is supposed to be riding a white steed. Something. There is something to do about the blue light which takes away our tamas guna. (Q) Kalki? (S) Kalki avatar is the Lagna. There is no end to this karmic cycle. so we have finished the avatars. interesting. So how can I get over that? I can only get over that by taking ahimsa. OK. That will be the end of the yuga. The description is not very clear as to what he is riding. Why do we have to transcend violence? Ahimsa. maintaining it. they will break it finally.Vyasa SJC Guna and Das Avatar lecture http://shrifreedom. It could be some kind of vehicle which we are not aware of. Jagannath is always shown as riding a white steed. that of the blue light. there is no doubt.htm Mercury what I do is Om namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya. vegan. So the Kalki Avatar is supposed to come to come somewhere in those parts. Buddha Avatar is all about ahimsa. each time our brahmins have been smart enough to save it. Anyway. And that will be the cause of the Kalki Avatar. by then this new temple will also fall down.com/VyasaSJC/OpeningLecture. waiting for that yuga to end and when it will happen. Kalki The Kalki Avatar. honestly they are there. (Q) What is the planet is Buddha concerned with this time? (S) Mercury. Something’s wrong with me. Taking shelter in nonviolence so the question of reacting doesn’t arise. We already have people who are employed over there every day cleaning it. That is an important prediction in all the Puranas that the Jagannath Temple will fall at that time. That guy slapped me so I must slap him. The Kalki Avatar has not yet manifested. Jagannath will be shifted from the temple where he is now to another temple which has already been built and is already waiting for him. (S) Why do we need ahimsa? (Q) For getting out of karma? (S) Correct. That will be the ultimate destruction because it is said to be the seat of the blue lotus. I can’t imagine how somebody would ride a steed and go around in the modern days. See if I can’t slap him in this life next life I’ll slap him So I must take birth and live again to slap him. You see. the tenth avatar. but he is riding a white steed. You come to Orissa and I will show it to you. It’s in Orissa. to be shifted. And then of course. There is something about that place in Puri. It is very surprising. How foolish. or Lagna. The yuga will end when the Jagannath Temple falls. the thing is we do not know what the white horse is.

So there are multiple ways of trying to explain it. it’s on their web page (S) I will tell you. The total failure of their intelligence. as to Parashara mentions that in the second chapter some of the avatars have more paramatmamsa and less jivatmamsa. It’s unbelievable.htm tiny creatures of about one foot in height. why can’t we do a mantra? The mantra is Om namo Bhagavate Kalkine. OK? So there is a God inside all of us in a very dormant form. a nice question was asked by Eric over here. Within each of us there is an aspect of this God that is called paramatmamsa. This is a conception that there on a branch there are two parrots sitting like that. Simple things they can’t decide any more. The intelligence of men is failing. And who is dominating and who is able to dominate your nature is very difficult to accept. What is going on? To what extent has it fallen? So the Kalki Avatar helps them to transcend this fallen intelligence and gives the supreme intelligence. Unbelievable the state to which the human society would have degenerated. OK. it’s very simple. One atma. And your intelligence will never fail you. But the point remains it all depends to what extent they have transcended the gunas. And by then their intelligence has fallen to such a level that a mother will eat a baby. They are not able to even think about what is good and what is not good.com/VyasaSJC/OpeningLecture. The human race would have been reduced to such tiny proportions and cannibalism would be rampant again. we’ll come to that. (Q) Kalkine? (S) Kalkine. Do you know that mantra? (Q) I have it. You must just use the mantra Om namo Bhagavate Jagannathaya . The pain and suffering of the mother was transcended by the Varaha Avatar when 38 of 50 19/06/2008 2:57 PM . Even if it is there in a tiny measure we are said to be avatar. Things like mothers eating their babies as soon as they are born. 15 Four Paramatmamsa Avatars (Q) Guruji. you mentioned in the second chapter they talk about how some of the avatars have more jivatmamsa and some have more paramatmamsa. Is there another mantra that you know? (Q) In Puri the one Achyuta Gandhi teaches a Kalki mahamantra. (Q) So he will come as an embodiment of Lagna? (S) Will come? Yes. multiple atmas. Now we know the difference between paramatmamsa and jivatmamsa. It’s unbelievable. In reality there are not two parrots because there is one. I don’t want to see such days. You will be calm. (S) Yes. two atmas. On a branch there sit two parrots called the jivatma and the paramatma talking to each other. So now we have finished the ten avatars. but why should we wait for him to come. The kind of descriptions that are given. it’s phenomenal. my gurudev said do not use all these mantras. And it doesn’t make sense why. The name Om namo Bhagavate Jagannathaya . Never will your intelligence fail you. Your intelligence will always be with you. that’s simple.Vyasa SJC Guna and Das Avatar lecture http://shrifreedom. The kind of things they say are really terrible. Their brains have ceased to function. there is only one atma inside. (S) Oh. right? The main difference being the extent to which they are transcending the three gunas. Somebody’s imagination in a scripture like that. Yes. The supreme intelligence will always keep you enlightened. What is all this? What is all this? What is happening? From the description what is happening in Kali Yuga? What is happening around you? The intelligence of man is failing him.

And goes across and comes back. it goes through the trees cutting the trunks off. (S) They are the Purna Avatars. he has transcended that. If you stick an arrow with great strength. then only we know that the paramatmamsa has dominated. How is that possible? Not one or two. In all the others there was no clear exhibition. He is way ahead. Ram. when you calmly sit down and think that to what extent has the paramatmamsa manifested. And bringing joy of another life to the world. See the description of Vishnu. hard wood. lesser avatars that we call amsa avatar like Chaitanya Mahaprabhu. multiple events. OK? Have you seen his chart? You should be teaching that chart. a very solid. because that is what is divine. There are multiple things. When there is an exhibition of super human qualities. (Q) What is the signification of the four that Parashara lists. OK? When Vishnu is perfectly described as five-headed. Normally it goes slightly inside. but so many of the demons he has killed. what we call the laws of nature. based upon these grahas. he is supposed to be an incarnation of Krishna. Just like Krishna. That is that they have manifested super human qualities. complete destruction. I think eleven of them. all limits of the mind. seven. Narasimha and Varaha he lists. How can that happen? How can one Krishna meet sixteen thousand wives? So he is transcending all things of the mind. Why? Because he has the Moon in Lagna. He had to be above pain to take the pain out. He’s an avatar. four. you can pierce through one.htm he took the world out of complete and total darkness. How many of those huge trees were there lined up? How many. What’s going on? Wherever your exhibition of energy is beyond the gunas.com/VyasaSJC/OpeningLecture. Eleven trees. four directions. That is the reason why he was not attached. But there are also other avatars. You know. It’s a hard wood. Superhuman strength. the stones are thrown into the water and they are floating in the water. Eleven of them. He’s worked hard and learned a lot. You will be learning all much more details from Freedom. Each coconut tree is pretty thick. (Q) There are four kendras. of the five tattwas you will have the answer. thereby giving birth to the human being. A little child. Rama. And the condition of the avatars having the Moon in Lagna. So the exhibition is not that he has done it. eleven? The coconut trees were in a line. who is supposed to be an avatar of the Moon. a little baby. has gone much beyond. What about lesser avatars? Because if you see. think. the most important avatars for the grahas are these. Krishna. He was beyond the gunas. touches the stone. Every limitation of the mind he has crossed.. even if you are very strong. the five-headed Vishnu to get your answer. the transcending. Nobody could see it because they were standing on Earth. A very little baby is killing demons. picks up the bow and sends an arrow. It is only a comparitive. People don’t get to see that. So like that you have to understand. The highest is supposed to be the Krishna Avatar wherein one Krishna is meeting sixteen thousand wives simultaneously. at most. is killing so many demons. absurd thing which you can’t explain then it is called paramatmamsa.Vyasa SJC Guna and Das Avatar lecture http://shrifreedom. All these charts you should teach. Whenever there is an exhibition of such a thing. that means they are the four who actually exhibited some complete paramatmamsa. ten. believe me. He was not attached to the fruits. 39 of 50 19/06/2008 2:57 PM . The mind cannot understand. Even in the Vamana Avatar whose feet went in and touched the entire universe. And we find that only in the four avatars it is extremely high. Parashara clearly mentions all these avatars are from the grahas themselves and some of these avatars. He’s learned a lot. because when it is beyond the gunas it is not going to follow the laws of physics. Is there some other? (S) Yes there is some other. There is a stone laying out there. How is it possible? So that means he is exhibiting superhuman abilities. All those things. How do you see it? What is the exhibition? You are not seeing it with your eyes.

Our energy shoots up with raja guna 40 of 50 19/06/2008 2:57 PM . Light leads to enlightenment. Sanjay: How do you know the things as they truly are? Students: From pure perception. We as individual bodies are getting up running like madmen. eating food. they are just going round and round in a perfect state of energy. tamas is darkness. What is light? light is a form of energy. You can't see anything.Vyasa SJC Guna and Das Avatar lecture http://shrifreedom. That is called sattva guna. Chasing shadows. don't use excess energy. Ignorance is the cause of tamas. light that is sustaining. Like the energy of earth. In normal light I can read. can know because that is my intake. So normal light is sattva guna. going to sleep. Sattva guna means balanced energy. Sanjay: What does it indicate? Light. He says from sattva is knowledge. Stay at a perfect energy level then we can live forever in this body. could be an escapist route. So we have one side light and other side darkness. Harmony of what? When you talk of harmony you are talking of 2 different objects and how they are harmonizing with each other? Student: Sattva is between rajas and tamas so sattva is a balance. again getting up. Student: Isn't it knowledge? Krishna says it is knowledge. They are going around and round and round. Have understood very calmly? But we cannot do that because we lack that ability. The translation of tamas as ignorance is wrong. One of the results of tamas. Blinding light is raja guna because in blinding light can only see shadows. getting tired sitting down. getting tired. running around and again going back to sleep so we are constantly having raja guna and tama guna. running.can see all of you. getting energy. Tamas is ignorance. Sattva means? Students: Pure.. They are not going faster than they are going slow. you can't see someone over there. What would happen if suddenly we had a million lights glaring down on us? cannot see all of you. They have a definite path.com/VyasaSJC/OpeningLecture. getting energy again. rajas guna. That is tama guna.htm 16 Intro to Gunas Sanjay: What is gunas? A quality or state of the being? Is it a state or just the nature of things? An attribute. For example tamas guna is supposed to be ignorance.. when the light is glaring down on you. Sanjay: From sattva comes knowledge. knowing the truth as they truly are. We are happy. Similarly when you are in darkness. It gets light. light that is not hurting. That is why these planets are in a better state of energy than you and me. light leads to knowledge. This body will live for a thousand years. It would be blinding. taking coffee. Rajas guna is about chasing shadows. we have enough light in this room so that we can see each other. And in between shadows. Or balanced light. Sanjay: So you are looking at sattva as some kind of a middle way. how can you see anybody? In darkness you can't see each other. one of the things that follows tamas. don't run around. So these planets are in sattva guna. sattva is what truly is. I’m blinded when the light is more than normal and I’m also blinded when the light is less than normal. See earth is going around the sun. we feel that this light is enough for me to know you . So it's lack of knowledge or is it goodness? What is sattva guna? Can you give me a word in English. How many years? Isn't it phenomenal? All these planets that are going around the sun are like a perpetual motion machine. The wear and tear of this body will be finished. From tamas comes ignorance. Now translate light into energy so sattva guna means that state of energy that can last forever. When you follow tamas you follow ignorance. That is my point. Can't any of us just stay in one state. don't have zero energy. Darkness leads to ignorance.

full of raja guna." If the head is up he is in sattva guna. keep that in mind. should go to the movies? In the morning they buy the tickets and are waiting. Raja guna means too much light. Looking up. cannot go anywhere until fill it with gas. typical raja guna concept is daylight savings. These eyes are very powerful. God has given us eyes to tell us where we will go. Correlation of time and the gunas is very important because time is what is running us. if the eyes are looking down you will go down. What is happening inside your head? Are you in a positive. round. Typical of tama guna. If it is straight it is rajas. you will go down. first see how the person has generally got his neck. When you put in more gas it runs around. that is all. time is not passing. The top position looking up is called Uttama. Why? Because these grahas also have gunas. was thinking of writing another book.Vyasa SJC Guna and Das Avatar lecture http://shrifreedom. How can you save daylight? Do you have a battery? If we could just change the working time. The speed of the time is the same for them in America and in Puri. Based upon the graha who is sitting on your head. round gas finishes. What about tama guna? Old men. If the person is always looking down. tama guna mantra will take your head down. If his gaze is up "yes have great plans. God has made the correct day for us. Time alone is the boss. Eye directs. when you are ashamed you put your head down. All beings are either in raja guna or in tama guna. Time is our controller. Where ever you see with the eyes that is where you will go. yes. Always try to do a sattva guna mantra. The day you hear someone say that know that he is in perfect sattva guna. will start looking up. bad mantras will take your head down. half way to the grave. everyday don't know what to do. When the car is full of gas it runs round. It shows what is happening in your mind. But see how in Puri there is so much time but out here (in America) the same day there is more daylight.htm and shoots down to tama guna. stops the car. So when a person comes to show you his chart. slightly up slightly down it is still rajas. That is the difference. The other extreme.com/VyasaSJC/OpeningLecture. Guna is not only a state of energy but the reflection of that energy in your mind. When we have tama guna we look down. A day of 24 hours is not sufficient for them. People in America are typically in raja guna. your head will start going down. raja-sattva. So we have how many positions? Four positions. When we have sattva guna we look up and rajas we look slightly on the side or we look straight. Sattva guna mantras will keep your head up. That is the perfect day. You have created so much confusion with daylight savings. Do Shani mantra. People of Puri go to the other extreme. Because of this excess of energy you want to do so many things quickly. if your eyes look up you will go up. the West. We are totally controlled by time. and they do all kinds of daylight savings. It is for us to decide where we will go. You want to do this to do that the day is not enough the day has past away. Typical America. So like this all these planets cause us to have different gunas. they never grow up. Sattva guna is those people who have a perfect 24 hours. this is the mantra you are doing either you look down or you look up. and in the rajas group 2 intermediate positions: straight-slightly up. Time is passing. will see if can do that. Sattva people have the right amount of work to do. "oh got so many problems" his gaze is down that means tama guna is dominating over him. Have you ever heard someone say that? No. if you see the road in front you will go there. Ideally a person doing the guru mantra like ‘Aum guruve namah’. So see what is happening? The mind is full is raja guna the mind has to do so many things. Eyes are very important. Tama guna people have nothing to do. So three main positions we are having. Just start it tomorrow. straight-slightly down. will cause your head to go up. Raja guna people have too much to do. excess of energy. They have so many cups of tea. Simple test for the mantra: if the head is going 41 of 50 19/06/2008 2:57 PM .tamas. looking up? Are you full of rajas looking straight? Or are you full of tamas looking down? If you are looking down. So tama guna means stopped car. So whose mantra should you do ideally? You should do a sattva guna mantra. Like children. Raja. That is the state of all beings. The time is the same.

Who is in tama guna who is in darkness does not know where to go. This nature of signs is applicable to jivatma. In Prashna Marga we are taught to pray to the signs buy using the names. who are the lords of these four signs? Mercury and Jupiter. Sun and Moon are sattva guna. we tend to put in computer code. Kanya. signs ruled by Saturn and Aries and Scorpio. The lagna in these signs show the intrinsic nature of these gunas. Mithuna. Now there is another order of things based upon creation. Thula and Makara. Dhanus and Meena. Based upon these planets the signs owned by them are said to be sattva and rajas because of the grahas. 17 Gunas and Grahas/Rasis The Grahas have sattva. So primarily people born in these signs are tama guna. rajas and tamas guna by their nature. Kataka. He is a sattva person who has to achieve tamas. One. Vrishabha.htm down is not suitable for you just leave it. What does rajas mean? Full of action. So which are the fixed signs? That which cannot move. So Jupiter is sattva and sattva . right so now we can talk of grahas. The graha with the maximum amount of sattva is Jupiter. full of energy.Lagna in these signs. Of these signs the signs ruled by Saturn are complete tama guna. The raja guna planets are Mercury and Venus and the tama guna planets are Mars and Saturn. What is tamas? Punish the 42 of 50 19/06/2008 2:57 PM . of refilling. Kataka. So the remaining four signs have sattva guna. He is sattva guna because Jupiter is the lord of the sign so the intrinsic nature is sattva. Use the sanskrit word the more you use them it is like a prayer. these have tama guna. Surprisingly cities. Vrischika. So Jupiter. Sattva guna is about learning and knowledge. for the objective. Then after that which are the raja guna signs? Mithuna. Now look at Leo. Are you aware of all the signs and the planets? Which is the signs owned by the Sun. Let 's look at Meena. Now see Sagittarius? Sattva person who was to achieve sattva. A person will have a hell of a time. Movable signs are that which is moving fast because there is lots of energy in it. Moon and Jupiter? Simha. The name is very important. So there are two systems. Meena. The graha with the maximum amount of sattva is JUPITER followed by the SUN and the MOON. Sattva who is achieving sattva. because ultimately the guna dominates over his intelligence. That means rajas. big cities are ruled by Gemini. reading studying. One group is for intrinsic nature of people and the other for the objectives they have to achieve. Kanya. Who cannot move? Those with no energy. dying to do anything. Use the names. So people born in these rasis intrinsically have sattva. Mesha. We have done the avastha. knowledge books. That means when we talk of human beings or we talk of animals we are talking of jivatma. Meena you will find that that sign will start clearing up. What are the activities of these two planets. Simha. So now you know what sattva guna is all about. These four rasis are sattva guna rasis. It is an energy. Vrishabha and Kumbha. not inertia. time is not enough. what is the objective to be achieved? Sattva. Just by taking the names Mesha. do you think it will suit me?" Does he have one of these planets Mercury or Venus strong in the chart? If it is not don't advise the person to live in New York. signs ruled by Mars.Vyasa SJC Guna and Das Avatar lecture http://shrifreedom. Mars still has energy. That is the reason why. So which are the fixed signs? Simha. That is why one problem is when you live in a very big city whether you like it or not you will have a lot of raja guna. Dhanu. complete darkness. Brihaspati. and Thula are the raja guna signs. Inertia is the opposite. Tama guna signs? Capricorn and Aquarius. for the intrinsic nature of people and two. so the movable signs are rajas guna. Excess energy in it. So if somebody asks you “want to go live in New York.com/VyasaSJC/OpeningLecture.

a very tamasic act. nobody knows anything. He burns everything. Your achievement will come down. SJ: Right. The net result is you will yourself to sit down. So what does rajas lead to? Ahamkara . That is what happens to the Moon. How to find out? Take the two gunas and add them up. what is the intrinsic nature? It is rajas guna. "ah." Rajas . What is left behind is what will happen. If you try to catch the sun you will burn your hands. So the Moon must be told stay within limits. Let's do the Moon. all the time struggling to hold your self back. We are deriving the functions. (some discussion with class off topic) Cancer lagna is basically and intrinsically a sattva guna. What is happening? Sattva is the level of your energy and raja guna is you want to achieve some big tasks. Karma is based on what you do not who you are. You don't have the energy and still you what to run across the country. that is no problem. Because karma is based on what you do not what you are. And when you study the stories of the Moon. So what happens when a sattva guna planet has to do a very tamas act? It is very difficult for him. How about Aries? Freedom: Aries is intrinsically tamasic. You will break your legs. what is left out? Rajas. The Sun was sattva guna who has to do a tama guna function. how the Moon kidnapped Tara and how the moon did this and that. That is why in anger he blazes. Moon is sattva doing a rajas function. More and more ego comes when he does this work. So you are curtailing yourself. 43 of 50 19/06/2008 2:57 PM . What will happen to a sattva guna person who has to achieve a raja guna function? You will accumulate a lot of sin. Tremendous ego. SJ: Superb. Moon is sattva guna. with a rajasic objective which becomes sattvic. what is left out? Tamas. You think you can do anything. you think you can do anything. See the raja guna? When the raja guna comes to the Moon? How the Moon falls so badly? Now let us talk of say Mithuna Lagna. They cannot achieve. So what he is accumulating is rajas.com/VyasaSJC/OpeningLecture. Put the man in jail. This is the problem in their achievement. The first job of the king is to punish. what you want very clearly. You see my point? This is one of the biggest stumbling blocks for Gemini.Vyasa SJC Guna and Das Avatar lecture http://shrifreedom. Intrinsically they are lazy fellows.intrinsic nature. See the point? Mesha Lagna that is how they are. He is the king. You don't achieve. Ego. It is not in his nature but still he has to do it. holding yourself back. Desire must be curtailed. that you must do only sattva guna. So. Virgo is the same story. that means you have too much energy.htm wrongdoer. very simple formula. Who will do Vrishchika? Zoran: Intrinsically they are tama guna and objectively they are also Tama Guna so that means they will be double tama guna. given half a chance they will try to go to sleep all the time. What is outside? Your activity. Freedom: Mercury is a rajasic planet doing a sattva guna activity and somehow the outcome is going to be tamasic. They are rajasic. Because they are sattva whose trying to come down to rajas trying to do sattva work. Jupiter was sattva guna and again sattva so sattva plus sattva is sattva. A king is of no value if he cannot punish. You don't have energy for that. wield the weapon. You are bound to flop. sattva leads to success. that is easy. That burning is tama guna. See how beautiful it is? You can understand. So sattva and tama. Ambition can be very bad. that means they always want to do so many things but because they are lazy they cannot do so many things they will only do what they can do so hence they are successful. Just because you are sattva guna inside does not mean your karma is good. you don't have the guna to match that. When a sattva guna person has raja guna desire he will accumulate sin. If your desire is not practical you will suffer like anything. But what is happening? Has to achieve a raja guna function.

In fact Scorpio is very unsuccessful because of very limited resources and very limited objectives.htm SJ: That means these are people that are double successful in tamasic activities. So you must understand that varna or caste is nothing but a predominant guna. You picked up my wife that is why I have to come to rescue my wife?" That is uttama. The predominant guna will decide your varna. They are very careful. Because of this mixing of gunas there are four types of human beings. We have enough resources and very limited objectives. But if my objective is tamasic and my intrinsic nature is also tamasic then maybe it is good for me. our objective in a guna. This is what is called successful. none of us are in perfect guna all the time. That means when they spend money they are very careful when they spend energy and effort. It is the nature that is staying with you for a long time." He can be very forgiving. That is why the moon gets debilitated in Scorpio. Uttama SJ: These mixing of gunas produce four types of human beings. And what is the predominant guna. What does my mind want? If my mind wants a tamasic function. For example Mars dasa for a Mars lagna person is very good. Or in simpler words. We will go into that later. the best guna. These are called the four castes. But when it comes to spending money for action it will be very limited. Scorpio is that rare sign which is a master of tamasic activity. Our mind can be in a guna. you have to understand. The name “Uttamoshlokaya" causes uttama guna to come to you. If you cannot forgive you don't have sattva guna intrinsically. our body can be in a guna. Why is Mars dasa very good for a Mars lagna person? Because his intrinsic nature is tamasic. Now you can also understand what dasa is all about. Ok in the manner you can understand what the person is intrinsically and what the objective is. you want to spend only little. So the tamasic dasa is good for him. When there is a match between the two it is beautiful and when there is a mismatch it is painful. "Shloka" is that which cause the mind to be resilient.com/VyasaSJC/OpeningLecture. 18 Four types of Guna. I have no war with you. what is dasa? It is a guna that is coming into my mind that is why the first dasa you learn is the Vimshottari dasa. some you are very sad. Typical Taurus he may have ten thousand dollars in his pocket but says" don't have any money. These predominant gunas cause four kinds of natures. SJ: See the beauty? You have so much energy but you don't want to spend any of it. Your whole outlook of dasa will change now.Vyasa SJC Guna and Das Avatar lecture http://shrifreedom. That is why one of the most beautiful mantras of Shri Rama by which you can get complete blessings of exalted Jupiter in his first house is: OM NAMO BHAGAVATE UTTAMOSHLOKAYA. the guna that is coming in my mind. That means the mind will ultimately lead to sorrow. That is the nature of Jupiter. lots of energy they need. don't have any income" they are forever talking about a limitation of energy. Like that. One is called Uttama.every day we change. These shlokas are supposed 44 of 50 19/06/2008 2:57 PM . What does Parashara have to say about uttama? He bears the quality of forgiveness. Sarbani would you like to try Taurus? Sarbani: Venus is a rajasic planet and Taurus is a tamasic sign. The sattva guna will increase in you. These mixing of the gunas. They must have lots of money. some days you are full of energy some low energy. You first have to understand the dasas in terms of the gunas. only limited objectives and because of that they are very successful. Because he is that by nature and his objective is like that so he achieves that. objective is tamasic so sattva is the result. all human beings exhibit 4 types or 4 natures. Some days you are very happy. So two lagnas have an inherent nature and ability to forgive even their biggest enemies. Who else but Rama standing on the battlefield with his arrow on Ravana who asks for forgiveness even now? "believe you.

Tomatoes and potatoes are tasting the same. Merely being born in a Brahmin family doesn't say you are a Brahmin. Udasina Then the next comes to madhyama. You are going to be sad. you should remove your attachment to your crop. Udasina. Then there is the fourth class and they are called the udasina. Shiva will make you a mahapurusha. Now so many people have read this chapter and so many teachers have taught this chapter but nobody has ever told you that the four types of gunas here are the four castes. foolish. The vagaries of nature are not going to help you be happy so don't be after the crop. So what. So. So udasina people are running after agriculture. Adhana. So my whole system goes into sattva guna. Even having the best knowledge he is very humble. These are the gunas Parashara says must be in you. Only great Maharshis have great control over their senses. madhyama means middle. Jupiter. They are neither brahmin nor kshatriya. He will be greedy. Agriculturalist.htm to be in a rhythm. clever. will tell lies. What are the qualities of Kshatriyas? Valorous. So please make a note of this very specifically. That is udasina. See the characteristics of these people? They are called vaishya. Udasina means sad. How can serve somebody so can get something out of them. varnas. lazy and always ready to render service to people. Always calm even in the worst events he is calm. This is very difficult. if it grows it will grow. Then if you are not if you are not a Brahmin and you are not a kshatriya then what are you? Then there is one more thing called Adhana. means the lower ones. shining. Such a person is sattva guna. increasing agricultural production. it will not. See these are signs of Kshatriya. which means always after agriculture. has my crop been better or not? What must I do to improve the crop? Their whole life is about going after the crop. uttama guna is forgiveness. You will get your food to eat since god has given you the wealth. full of light. If you don't protect the holy people how can you say you are a kshatriya? You have no right to call yourself a kshatriya. clever. All they can think about is how to increase money. from a predominance of sattva guna will be Uttama guna. Calmness. radiant. Pumping injections into tomatoes to make them this size. Not like serving a master but what can get out of the person. bigger product. radiant. Like for example when you worship Shiva with the Mantra: OM NAMO BHAGAVATE MAHAPURUSHAYA then you become a mahapurusha . If it doesn’t. humbleness. Uttama guna means a predominance of sattva guna and such a person is a Brahman. sorrowful. They are written in chandas or rhythms. having control over his senses. not retreat from warfare. always sad. if not they are not a Brahman. if he is not humble he is full of pride then the person is in raja guna. lethargic. And this. very brave. Otherwise not. 19 Madhyama. see the qualities that are being expressed over here? Beautiful. The whole society is becoming sad because of these foods. So as you are a shiksha so shall you be. the finest qualities. They will only spread misery and sorrow in society. and protecting the holy people. will undergo penance. tapas. Humbleness. What is in it for me? These are called the sudras. Businessman. That is sattva guna. will possess purity. will not retreat from the war. These are the sudras. See the words used.com/VyasaSJC/OpeningLecture. That should be the attitude. UTTAMOSHLOKAYA is the best rhythm for my mind. If somebody tells you he is a Kshatriya tell him this these are the qualities you have to exhibit: you have to be valorous. When you see the guna you have to decide.Vyasa SJC Guna and Das Avatar lecture http://shrifreedom. See what 45 of 50 19/06/2008 2:57 PM . When somebody says he is a Brahmin you can quote this shloka to him and tell him the day you will exhibit these qualities we shall accept you to be a Brahmin. They are destined to live a life of misery and be sad. These things lead a person to be a Brahman. They are adhana. Madhyama are for Kshatriya.

He is suppose to exhibit a certain quality called madhyama guna . It is all a question of convenience and need. Our head is down already.Vyasa SJC Guna and Das Avatar lecture http://shrifreedom. Know people who say "You know during Rahu dasa was eating meat and then Jupiter dasa came and became a vegetarian and the Saturn comes and start eating meat. So you see? These are the four qualities. Then there is the dasa. Your action will decide. madhyama. If they don't become sad they don't run after money. The head of our Parampara. Their basics are totally zero. rajas and tamas mixing up causing brahma. Students: Isn't Jyotish about living OK? SJ: Jyotish is not about living OK. He will become sad because of that guna. Student: so the gunas are mixing up but still the predominant guna in the uttama is sattva and in the madhyama is predominantly rajas and adhana is predominantly tamas. The chickens. SJ: No. Nobody is perfect rajas. proficient in the upkeep of animals. The dasa calls certain gunas to come. They have no hassles. And brahmins are up there. Right? Then. Rajas can never be perfect. Birth has no meaning. Then udasina. Then why study Jyotish? Jyotish is meant to increase our gunas. nothing stops you from changing. So people with Adhana guna will just do detestful things. Maximizing your possibility or potential. Udasina is sorrow.com/VyasaSJC/OpeningLecture. the kshatriya. They don't know what the gunas are. One is your intrinsic guna. The guna is suppose to be udasina. The lower rajas is udasina. Remember we have to raise our head on top and look. which you were born. Only he can run after money. kshatriya. What you all can change. It is a question of your karmas. Only people who run after money have to become sad. See that? And these are people who will say truth and lies on the basis of convenience. more business. A perfect Vaishya must have udasina guna. That is the beauty of all this knowledge otherwise why are we learning Jyotish? If we cannot change we cannot improve. put a double injection in and 5 eggs will come out. Rajas has an upper rajas and lower rajas. start drinking it immediately. Do not think for one minute that these castes are based on birth. Both kshatriyas and vaishyas are rajas. You have to decide what you want to do. Not changing but what you are suppose to be right now to what you can be. If they don't do detestful things they will start having thoughts of 46 of 50 19/06/2008 2:57 PM . If it is convenient to tell the truth they will if it is not they won’t. Nobody. At any point of time there are 3 different stages of the gunas. You have sattva. which is the Lagna. Kshatriya is suppose to have valor. more animals. We cannot know what to do to become better or have a life full of knowledge. Adhana is that which is detestable. So the kshatriya and the vaishya are going to be in madhyama and udasina gunas. The kshatriya want power and the vaishya want money. Sudras are in tamas. Know some great astrologers who say your Saturn dasa comes you are not getting results because you are not taking alcohol. They don't even know what the meaning of brahman. 20 Dynamic Gunas The Lagna is telling us what your intrinsic nature is. Can you believe there are such characters? The problem is they don't understand the meaning of the word guna at all. Sri Achyuta Dasa was born to a sudra family and by his karma became a brahmin. Upper rajas is madhyama.htm Parashara is telling? These are the people who are largely focused on more agriculture. If it cannot do it don't learn Jyotish. uttama. it’s not like that. That is a separate issue. your intelligence has got that guna. vaishya and sudra. They have gone into rasis and navamshas and drekkanas and planets and yogas without even knowing what they are looking for. There is nothing called perfect balance. Jyotish is about improving your gunas. sad. the vaishya. but he must have that guna.

double tamas. Rahu and Ketu take on the nature of the planet they are conjoined with. OK? Understand the gunas. Why did he have to tell Arjuna fight or don't fight? He must fight because he is not his grandfather. So we are all exhibiting different gunas not only on a broad period basis but also have a specific guna on an intrinsic basis but also our gunas are changing on the basis of dasas. clever and will not retreat from warfront. you have to live up to it. The primary dasa is showing what is the guna at the moment. 21 Guna and Varnada Lagna We know there are four types of gunas and these are the objectives of a person so later on what we need to understand is these signs are associated with objectives. giving all kinds of excuses. Krishna understood his gunas. What are the gunas of a Kshatriya? Shall you go back again. don't fail the test. "Arjuna please listen to me. 10.. what is the need? Why did Krishna tell Arjuna he had to fight? Think? Why? Why could Krishna not do it? Was he weak? That is what karma is all about.htm God that means the gunas have changed.com/VyasaSJC/OpeningLecture. If it is in a water sign your varna is bramana. As a Brahman many times I am also put to test. know I failed it... Valorous. Sit and brood and think “what can do next time?” Question from student. And what a person must be there is something called Varnada lagna. here is the Bagavad Gita. 6.. As a Kshatriya you are not valorous.Vyasa SJC Guna and Das Avatar lecture http://shrifreedom. I told you best of mantra. Varna is based upon what you are suppose to be. Ten is one of them.. SJ: Free will is in the houses 3. So he could have done that. picks up the chakra and throw it and it is finished with the Sudarshana. radiant. So they are Tama guna grahas. understand what they are and what things you have to refrain from.what guna are Rahu and Ketu. 11. They are no longer in adama guna. Ketu preferred Scorpio and Rahu Aquarius. If 47 of 50 19/06/2008 2:57 PM . chhaya grahas. Pratyantara dasa is showing the guna in my intelligence. he must fight because he would never be grandfather. Everybody's bow and arrow and spears are ready and Krishna is telling Arjuna. as a Kshatriya this is your dharma. they did not choose any of them. Student: And comparing the intrinsic nature of the planets and rasis. If your head is going up keep doing it your guna is going to be good all the time. He clearly understood. How it is affecting the person. he is running away from the battle. Fail the test so many times. sit down in your chariot. The 11th lord from Varnada lagna will decide what will be your varna." Why would Krishna do that? He would say enough of this nonsense. See the characteristics of the gunas. SJ: That is why there are co-rulers of those signs. The antara is showing the predominant guna in the mana (mind).. this is a test. Which is always keeping my head up. If karma was not in your hands Krishna would not have spent so many shlokas telling the whole Bagavad Gita to Arjuna in the middle of a battlefield when every one is holding bow and arrow like that. Whatever you do is your free will. If three of them are good all the time sattva how can bad happen? And what can one do to insure have sattva guna all the time? You can do a mantra. Scorpio and Aquarius are the two that are pure tamas. Once you plan your life and you decide what to do and what not to do how can sorrow touch you? Students: . Karma is in your hand. nobody could stop the Sudarshana. Yes or no? If he had packed up his bags and run away from the battlefield is he a Kshatriya or is he an Adhana guna? Adhana. you have to prove it. And if they are not joined with any planet? SJ: If they are not Rahu and Ketu are by nature are tamasic planets because of the dictum that Ketu is like Mars and Rahu is like Saturn.

SJ: Yes. If it is in a earth sign it is a Vaishya or udasina guna . Udasina guna Students: The 11th lord.htm the 11th lord from Varnada lagna is a fire sign it is Kshatriya. Gayatri mantra. SUN. So make a chart with the varanda lagna. If it is in a Vayu or air sign then it is Adhana guna that is sudra. I was working in the government. Labha. mother one is seventh lord wife. I am just talking of signs for the gunas. Students: If the 11th lord is in a earth sign but for some reason they want to do a brahmin activity then what? SJ: It isn't that they can't. whatever it is will be forced by circumstances.Vyasa SJC Guna and Das Avatar lecture http://shrifreedom. Students: Water. Brahman. One is fourth lord.. the government service is Kshatriya karma. fire. Adhana guna Earth signs. Uttama guna Air signs. the sign occupied by the 11th lord from the varanda lagna will decide your varna. find out who this 11th lord is. Kshatriya means madhyama guna. Madhyama guna Water signs. 48 of 50 19/06/2008 2:57 PM .then all of a sudden we move to tattva or what our work is. You will find success in what you are doing. Because a graha is sitting in the Rasis will force me.com/VyasaSJC/OpeningLecture. Shall repeat it again? Fire signs.. But because the 11th house is having a planet in it and because of that planet was forced to do Kshatriya karma. they have come over here and I have taught them the gunas which are the fundamentals of Jyotish and think I am doing a pretty decent job. I think I have done a good job. Sun is Gayatri mantra and do the Brahman mantra. And the source of income. SJ: Yes. SJ: Tattva where are the tattvas? did not talk of tattva. There are some people who are destined to be businessmen. When you do the mantras of this 11th lord believe me you will be very successful in achieving your varna. will decide your karma. graha gives us the intrinsic nature. SJ: No. Students: So if we break this down. Whatever will be the lordship because of the lordships will be forced into those situations. the 11th lord is the source of income. the sign of the 11th lord from the varnada lagna not the 11th sign from the varanda lagna. SJ: Yes. Students: So it is best for you to do the 11th lord's sign. Sudra. I see so many people. If it is in a water sign it is definitely brahman karma. If your varna. Students: If you had done the mantra could it have prevented you from going to work for the government job. Vaishya. My Varanda lagna is in Libra. Guruji. air. should have. Now Cancer is a water sign which is Brahmin. They will not be successful in the other thing. It is matching up with what he will succeed in. It can show they were primarily not meant to. When a person does a thing according to his varna he will succeed in what he does. rasis giving us the objective then together they are giving what we attain. You have to transcend. The 11th house from the varanda lagna is a fire sign. I was suppose to do Brahman karma. earth. So that is how your varna is decided. It just shows it is matching up. Brahman means uttama guna. Kshatriya. The 11th lord of the varanda lagna. with Mercury in it the 11th lord is Sun it's in CANCER. Like me my 11th lord in my chart. what to do about the mantra is no good at that time because Saturn dasa the mantra was suppose to fail. Just a differentiation.

why gemstone? Gemstone is still tamasic. A Kshatriya is not suppose to forgive. Ramakrishna Paramahamsa. Students: Is there ever a time when a planet in the rasi will be a better choice than the actual rasi itself. Tamas guna: “should not be teaching them this. If you are in Saturn dasa or Saturn is your atmakaraka or Saturn is very heavy on you pick up the Sun. Moon. Always do a mantra of the Sun. if teach this they will become more cleaver than me. Must feel very blessed that my guru has been very kind.htm once you transcend the attachment there is nothing. whatever be the lagna. Don't be afraid. So you have a brahmin graha in a sudra rasi? SJ: The grahas are bound to dominate in the gunas you cannot prevent their dominance. So Saturn has its ability to destroy for such a thing it is necessary for you to worship the Sun.. 22 Upaya So the planets in Lagna are bound to give some kind of an impact on the person and we must make an effort to get over the negative gunas by doing counter mantras. Similarly. It is too busy with politics. Can there be anything better than that? Do you 49 of 50 19/06/2008 2:57 PM . Blissful is blessed that got this opportunity you all could find time spend a whole day over here and learn.” that is raja guna.com/VyasaSJC/OpeningLecture. If raja guna. How else can you get over Saturn? Similarly if you find Mercury to be the cause of too much rajasic problems for you pick up a Sun mantra. You have to worship the Sun otherwise you have no way out. How will you learn if you don't try it? What is the harm? How can it be bad for you when the Devi is good for you. I am giving one small dictum. We will discuss this philosophy later but think about what I have said. Even happiness coming from sattva guna is not right. But he was forgiving by nature. That is Tama guna of a brahman. Our efforts should always be to transcend all the three gunas even the sattva guna. This is a very important thing I must teach you: the three planets Sun. One of the two things he will do. Have no right to feel happy. Try to understand one very simple thing. Should feel blissful. forgiving disposition. or fortune or some such aspect. Even in Capricorn lagna. If start feeling happy and joyful that is sattva guna. Moon or Jupiter as a permanent mantra. calm very humble? Why? Because brahmin gunas. Use mantras. Saturn will give poverty at a level you cannot imagine. Kumbha lagna with Saturn exalted in the ninth. When you give a gemstone even better than gemstone. Remember that wearing the gemstones are strengthening and will only give you better gunas. and Jupiter are always of sattva guna.. unless you try it how will you know. For the simple reason. try it. “oh power. SJ: Try it and see. All the brahmin gunas had come to him. If Rahu is there do Mantras of Jupiter.Vyasa SJC Guna and Das Avatar lecture http://shrifreedom. must do something. Don't care what is the lagna. if Saturn is very strong on your lagna or lagna trines pick up a mantra of the Sun.” Many teachers have this so what is the guna of the teaching? Once you understand gunas you will not get caught in all this. you will teach for the bliss of the teaching. Sri Rama was a kshatriya but Jupiter was in his Lagna in exhalation. Are you a king or are you a Brahamin? If you are a king you must punish somebody for the flaw how can you forgive? If your enemies are asking for forgiveness and you give it Why? You are not a king. He will completely and totally destroy you. Always do mantras or wear gemstones ideally of these planets. Gayatri mantra is the best. If Saturn is there do mantras of the Sun. He will finish all your sources of income and money. when Saturn is in the first or ninth house he will completely destroy your health or your fortune. how many students do have now? Why did that go. Students: Can you comment should be wearing moonstone for moon in the 12th house for Libra Lagna. when Saturn is in the first or in the ninth he will completely and totally destroy either your health. To forgive is not in the nature. a king is supposed to punish when punishment is required.

htm see the poverty here? He did not have food to eat for two or three days. can give you so many charts invariably it doesn't fail because these things I am telling you are from the Nadis. Why must you do mantras? om.Aum Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya . No food. And if the Sun is also malefic the person has had it. The best sattva guna planets do not like you wearing gemstones so much they want you to do mantras. Because doing mantras is for sattva guna.. You have been initiated into Gayatri Mantra so do it. Mantras are sattva guna remedy. You have to do the Gayatri there is no escape. this is becoming intensely personal mean retrograde Saturn with Rahu in the Lagna for me so have asked you to give special mantra. Do it. It is the Sun. So it will give the results of Saturn so we are not only having retrograde Saturn which is three times power of Saturn plus Rahu with Saturn that means six times power of Saturn. what will he say? He'll say you have been initiated and you are not doing the gayatri watch what he will do to you. Because that person year after year he will come back to you. You have to do the Gayatri mantra..com/VyasaSJC/OpeningLecture. Why are you not doing it? Saturn will be even more harsh on you. I can site examples. Students: It will change the gunas by doing the mantras? SJ: Simple as that. SJ: Gayatri mantra. And mantras from where? The Rig Veda.Aum Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya 50 of 50 19/06/2008 2:57 PM . haum.Vyasa SJC Guna and Das Avatar lecture http://shrifreedom. Rahu is in lagna with Saturn. So I am giving you a simple example so you understand. hreem. Why does Saturn punish? Saturn is Dharma raja. What about the moon? HOME | ABOUT US | LINEAGE | INTRODUCTION | CLASS ARCHIVES | NEWS | SJC Aum Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya . Do the mantra you have been initiated into. Shanimaharaj is in six fold strength in the lagna. if Yama is standing over here. Somebody who is not initiated means even if the person is not doing the mantra is not punishable. Gemstone is not a sattva guna remedy. tat savitur varanyam bargo . OK? Student: I am sorry Sanjayji.sing you are suppose to sing and enjoy. why? Om bur bhuva svaha. You miss out on this you will be breaking your head looking for solutions. If Dharma raja is standing over here. you will not be able to find a solution for him for Saturn in the first or ninth house and sometimes the fifth also. Don't give me any students. try it and see for yourself. know it can do magic. I have a retrograde Saturn aspecting my Lagna.

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