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In the attempt to defend permitting homosexuals to marry (i.e.

, man to man and woman to woman), proponents of homosexual marriage ask how such marriages would personally affect those who are opposed to it. This is worth answering, and I believe there are two areas we need to look at in response. Philosophical Concerns How does a murder in another state between two people living in a trailer park in the middle of nowhere, among people whom we have never known and who don't know anyone we know, affect us personally? It doesn't, but because it has no effect on us personally this doesn't mean that we should ignore the moral issues associated with murder and not condemn such actions. Murder is morally wrong, and when any moral law is broken we are all ultimately affected and we know that if such actions were to increase, society would be matter where you are. Am I comparing homosexual marriage to murder and saying they are related or somehow equal? Not at all. I'm momentarily shifting the focus to something that we all agree is morally wrong in order to demonstrate that even though there can be an action somewhere that doesn't specifically affect us (i.e., murder), we should rightfully condemn it because it is wrong. It is a moral concern. Likewise, homosexual marriage is a moral issue and we must be concerned with its moral implications -- whether or not we are personally affected at the moment. However, someone might say that homosexual marriage is not a moral issue, but is instead a civil rights issue. Though some pro-homosexual marriage proponents wave the flag of "civil

rights" in support of their cause, which I believe is inappropriate, homosexual marriage is wrought with moral issues: faithfulness, promise, love, support, commitment, sex, etc. Besides, civil rights are based on moral rights. It is morally wrong to prevent someone from holding a job, eating at a restaurant, or using public bathrooms based on skin color. Likewise, the union of two people in a public ceremony where emotional, sexual, and faithful commitment to each other is recognized by the rest of society is also moral. If you disagree, then it is up to you to demonstrate that such public commitment is somehow a nonmoral issue. When we look at the question again, we can see an implied moral standard; namely, that morality is determined by how people are personally affected. But something is not right or wrong merely because of the effect an action might have on someone. Something is right or wrong because there is an inherent nature to moral truths. For example, it is wrong to murder. It is wrong to torture babies for your personal pleasure. It is wrong to divide society based on skin color. It is wrong to promise fidelity, commitment, and love to your marriage "partner" and then break that promise. It is wrong to hate someone without a cause. It is wrong to desire the death of someone just because you don't like his skin color. If morality were determined by how a person is affected, then all of morality would be based on effects, circumstances, and personal likes -- but only when they are acted on, not when they are felt. But this is problematic because if I believe that homosexual marriage is morally wrong, am I morally wrong for simply believing it? Am I morally right? Or is there no moral value to the belief? If you say there is no moral value to a mere belief, then hating someone based on skin color or "sexual orientation" isn't wrong, is it? See how morality based "only" on how someone
Commented [b4]: No, it is morally wrong to prevent them from getting married. Commented [b2]: So just as its moral wrong to prevent someone from holding a job, eating at a restaurant, or using public bathrooms based on skin color, its also moral wrong to prevent that public ceremony? Commented [b3]: It is a moral issue. Commented [b1]: The same moral issue associated with traditional marriage.

is affected is wrought with problems? It ignores the underlying motives and says that evil motives aren't wrong until they are acted upon. If you deny that there are intrinsic moral truths, then there is nothing wrong with hatred, anger, lust, coveting, prejudice, etc., as long as they aren't manifested. Again, if there are no intrinsic moral truths, then please find an exception to the statement that it is always wrong to torture babies merely for your person pleasure. If you can't, then aren't you admitting there are moral absolutes -- to which we must ultimately answer since it implies a moral Truth Giver? But, I digress. Homosexual marriage is really about two things: love and sex. Sure, homosexuals profess love for one another. But, they also have sex with each other and it is the latter issue that, in my opinion, is the driving force behind their marriage redefinition. Think about it: homoSEXuality. Yeah, I know, its just a word. However, it leads us to the practical concerns as they are related to sex, the very thing that the homosexual community has brought out of the closet/bedroom into the public eye. Practical Concerns If a single homosexual couple is married on the other side of the world, it has no effect on me -but that doesn't mean it isn't a moral issue. However, if a homosexual couple is legally married in the country in which I live, I am affected. First of all, writing this article is the result of the question raised by pro-homosexual marriage supporters. I was affected, and I'm writing this as the result. Second, the redefinition of marriage away from the public promissory bond of a man and woman affects society as a whole, since society is based on the family unit in which
Commented [b11]: How does it disagree from your morals any more than an opposing religious belief? Commented [b12]: Irrelevant based upon your first statement that locality doesnt matter in moral issues which you already stated it was. Your first two sentences in the paragraph completely contradict each other. Commented [b13]: So, your only motivated enough when it affects you but not when its a moral issue? Commented [b14]: Yes, society is based on the family unit, however there are single mothers and fathers that still function as part of society and a family unit. How is homosexual family units more morally wrong than that? Commented [b6]: Not really, homosexual sex is about sex, homosexual marriage is about marriage. Commented [b7]: Is it morally wrong for you to doubt what they profess? Commented [b8]: The driving force behind their marriage redefinition is equality. If it was just sex, then they would just have sex. Commented [b5]: Youve using a moral action and pretending its a moral belief.

Commented [b9]: Such practical concerns as, how to they physically do that? Do they scissor, or what?! Commented [b10]: Right, because not only was sex never discussed before the homosexuals came along, but its also a better idea to keep it in the closet.

marriage is the legal contract of fidelity and commitment through which children are brought into the world. Third, by redefining marriage away from a man and a woman, where normal physical sexual intercourse can occur, the absolutes of male female marriage relationships are broken down and sexual permissiveness is encouraged. This opens the door to further redefinitions of familial and sexual relationships. Take, for example, the 2011 symposium "Living in Truth and Dignity" in Baltimore, Maryland on August 17. In it, pedophilia was redefined as "minor attracted persons," and the symposium sought to raise concerns about how the DSM1considers it a mental disorder. At the symposium, one of the lectures was titled "Decriminalizing Mental Disorder Concepts Pedophilia as an Example." It was presented by John Z. Sadler, M.D., Prof. of medical ethics and psychiatry, UT Southwestern Medical Ctr., Dallas, TX.2 Is this a precursor of more sexual "reconsiderations" in a changing world where sexual permissiveness in the form of homosexual behavior now seeks acceptability by redefining marriage so it can hide within its sacred halls and gain acceptability? We have to ask if such a symposium would have gained traction if the fidelity of traditional marriage had remained intact, and along with it the sanctity of sexuality that marriage provides. I can't see how. With the redefining of sexual roles and marriage partners, the dike that holds back the immoral deluge is cracking. When the door to marriage redefinition is opened, a host of sexual moral obscenities can slip in. When and how do we close the door again? After pedophilia is accepted by society? What about polygamy, polyandry, and polyamory? Without a definite statement that marriage is
Commented [b25]: A host? Homosexual marriage does not include an adult having sex with a child, or a man fucking a goat. It includes homosexual marriage. Commented [b26]: It would seem that youre understanding that each issue is separate, why dont you address each issue as separate instead of ignorantly grouping them in all together. Commented [b27R26]: Either that or your just too lazy to address each one of those examples individually. Commented [b20]: No, comparing homosexuality to pedophilia is a worn-out, proven completely inaccurate comparison which completely skips over the whole consenting part. Commented [b21]: Hide? From what? The only thing homosexuals have to hide from is persecution from ignorant ass-hats like yourself. Commented [b19]: So making pedophilia something that can be diagnosed and treatment provided is somehow wrong? Or would you rather put it back in the closet and pretend it doesnt exist? Commented [b15]: So children cant legally be brought into this world outside of marriage? Commented [b16R15]: Its illegal to have children outside of marriage? Commented [b17]: No. The absolutes of your religion are not broken down simply because your neighbor believes in another religion. Commented [b18]: Perhaps tolerance is a better word.

Commented [b22]: You show no correlation between a pedophilia symposium and homosexual marriage. Commented [b23]: I cant see how theyre related. Commented [b24]: Dike, lol.

between a man and a woman, and with it the natural biologically designed sexual union that is guarded within marriage, then anything goes -- pedophilia, bestiality, necrophilia, gender identity, and more. Philosophically, this can have profound moral ramifications for society, and when morals change society changes and everyone within it is affected. As history too often demonstrates, when a society's morality frays the wicked prosper and they soon turn their attention to the morally conservative and persecute them. This is already occurring here in America where people who dare express contrary opinions to the politically correct view of homosexual marriage are fired from jobs, ridiculed, and/or called bigots. This causes others, myself included, to be wary about saying anything, lest the brown-shirts3 of the homosexual agenda turn us in and we be punished for simply believing that homosexual marriage is wrong. Think it won't happen? It already is!
Commented [b31]: Examples? Commented [b32]: So you feel that being fired from jobs and ridiculed for having a belief is morally wrong? How about belief that Commented [b33]: It took a while for you to live up to Goldwins Law. Fear mongering at its most predictable. Commented [b34]: How are you being punished?! Commented [b28]: This is the first instance that youve mentioned biological design; you fail to elaborate on this point as well as assume an image of marriage being this shield that sex can happen behind. Commented [b29]: Again, youre laziness to address each of these issues individually. Except for gender identity, all of those examples ignore the whole consenting part. Commented [b30]: Its been a while since Ive been able to agree with something youve said.