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I‟ve compiled this list of contradictions and double-speak from the experiences I have had with 5 point Calvinists to show the “doctrines of grace” do not rightly divide the Word of Truth which demonstrates Calvinists don‟t have the sound mind God requires of someone who is approved of God (2 Timothy 2:15). I do concede not everyone who claims this doctrine actually believes it in their hearts and I give grace in those situations. I also know that sometimes people can simply be confused about these things and haven‟t thought through the logical implications. Having said this any teachings about God‟s character and nature which go against the knowledge of God should be cast down (2 Corinthians 10:5). The bible teaches in Galatians 5:9 the universal truth that “a little leaven leavens the whole lump.” While Calvinists teach some truth there are many errors within. The battle is for the truth of who God is which is reflected in the gospel message of salvation. To put it simply false teachers lie about who God is, what He wants, and how He interacts with His creation which affect the gospel message leading people away from the real Jesus. The contradictions below are direct quotes from Calvinists while others are paraphrases of conversations. You, the reader, might be a Calvinist and may object to some of the contradictions as not “representing Calvinism” or “creating characters of Calvinism” because your beliefs differ from the ones below. But unless you are the pope or leader of the Calvinists you cannot say with 100% certainty your beliefs are the STANDARD by which everyone bows towards. Perhaps its you that is incorrect. I‟ve seen the Calvinist system of theology cause damage to the body of Christ in witnessing ministries (Descent Into Error Part 1). I‟ve heard of seminary students leave seminary because they were taught “Calvinistic” predestination, something they have not read in Scripture. I‟ve had people tell me their faith was shaken because they don‟t know if they are one of the elect God chose. I‟ve seen Calvinists confuse the lost by telling them to believe the gospel but God must make them believe. I‟ve had Calvinists tell me Calvinism is the gospel and if I don‟t believe it I‟m going to hell because I have a “works based salvation.” I‟ve seen Calvinists change the words of the bible to make their doctrine fit. These are not minor issues! Christians should rise up and pray that God will purge this doctrine from the minds of those who are ensnared by its contradictory ideas. There are some, such as evangelist Mark Cahill, who are publicly speaking out against the doctrine. Am I causing division? Not at all. Its not ME causing division, its the DOCTRINE of Calvinism causing division because it teaches different doctrines about God than what I had originally believed. These are not DEEPER truths but DIFFERENT truths about who God is. Calvinism changes the personality of God. Romans 16:17 NKJV Now I urge you, brethren, note those who cause divisions and offenses, contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and avoid them.
Christians are to have the “mind of Christ” and a “sound mind” to rightly divide the Word of Truth, and I know the mind of Christ is not contradictory nor confusing. If an interpretation of a verse doesn‟t harmonize with other verses there is something wrong with it and the interpretation should be changed until it harmonizes. Its really that simple. What is harder is to admit the error, and I hope some do. Misrepresenting who God is to the creation leads people to the broad road that leads to destruction! Calvinist contradiction #1 Calvinist: “Calvinism is not an essential issue.” Later in the conversation…Calvinist: “You believe in a false gospel of free-will!” I guess Calvinism is essential. Calvinist contradiction #2 Calvinist: “Lets not argue, Christ wants unity between all believers such as Calvinists and non-Calvinists. We shouldn‟t divide over the doctrine.” Later in the conversation they say, “We don‟t know who the elect are.” “If you don‟t know who the elect are how do you know we are united in the first place?” Calvinist contradiction #3 From an email on facebook I received: Calvinist: “any time you say Calvinism is not true I will rebuke you extremely severely in the name of Jesus Christ! Calvinism is the gospel, you heretic! I read your stupid post even though you are not on my friends list.” “I am unable to believe in Calvinism because God has decided I don‟t believe it. Why are you getting mad at me? I cannot help it.” Calvinist: “you are blinded by the devil. Do not blame God for your inability to believe the gospel.” “Are the unelect „unable‟ to believe the truth?” Calvinist: “No one is able to believe the truth unless God opens their eyes…” “I guess its God‟s fault after all.” Calvinist contradiction #4 Tony Miano is witnessing to someone on a video. During the conversation a Christian named Marco walked up to Tony and said he was being too hard and needed to teach more on God‟s love. Tony then berated him and said, “So if me in my flesh can push people away from God then you believe in a weak God.” Tony then accused this Christian of “blaspheming God”
because “Marcos,you think the gospel needs our help…You don‟t believe the gospel is sufficient, Marco!” Later in the video Tony explained the “correct” gospel to Marco by witnessing to Marco! Why is Tony showing Marco the “correct” way when he just finished telling Marco “you think the gospel needs our help?” Apparently Tony‟s god is “weak” too since he needs Tony to correct Marco. Calvinist Contradiction #5 Tony Miano is preaching to a crowd and tells them to repent and believe. A few minutes later Tony says “God is a God of love and if He CAUSES you to be born again, THEN you can repent and THEN you can believe.” He told the crowd “they” must repent and believe and now he is saying GOD MUST DO IT…very confusing to unbelievers….and everyone else. Calvinist contradiction #6 Calvinist: “God is sovereign in all things. If you don‟t believe God gave you the faith to believe you are going against Gods sovereignty!” “But if I can go against Gods sovereignty than God isn‟t sovereign in all things.” Think about that for a second. Calvinist contradiction #7 Calvinist: “God does not predestine people for heaven and hell. He simply passes over those people not saving them.” “Who makes the decision to pass certain people over not saving them?” Calvinist: “God.” “Sounds like God predestines people for heaven or hell.” Calvinist contradiction #8 Calvinist: “God isn‟t obligated to respond to a person‟s faith. God is completely sovereign and isn‟t controlled by what people do.” “Does God get angry at a sinners sin?” Calvinst: “Yes.” “Then I guess God is controlled by what men do.” Calvinist contradiction #9
The essentials are the Trinity. then why is he showing the class a sermon that suggests the opposite? Answer: Because he really believes Calvinism is essential and is trying to trick people into believing it is when he tells them its not. During this time in my life I believed what Calvinists told me. that Calvinism is not an essential issue.” Calvinist contradiction #11 Calvinist: “Unbelievers are blinded by total depravity.” “I guess the list of essentials is growing as we speak. Elect but not elect yet. its Satan (2 Corinthians 4:4). Very deceptive. which means they can believe. the deity of Christ. salvation by grace through faith. This is not the only time I have had Calvinists hide their doctrines under the guise of “its not essential” and then turn around later and say it really is.” “But wouldn‟t that mean when you were born you were saved?” Calvinist: “That would mean you are an unregenerate goat.” “Then why did God blind some of the Jews from believing if they are already blinded? Or why does satan blind people from the gospel if they are already unable to believe it? It sounds to me like people can be led astray. who is leading the class told me later Calvinism is not an essential issue. The elect are never condemned. Calvinist contradiction #10 Calvinist: “Calvinism is not an essential issue.” Later in the conversation… Calvinist: “If you believe people can respond to the gospel using their free will you are a heretic.” Calvinist contradiction #12 Calvinist: “Christ saved His own at the cross.” . not total inability.I decided to take a systematic theology class at my old church which was taught by a 5 point Calvinist named Mark K. Christ‟s physical resurrection. they are unable to believe. You may want to include that in the list for the future. But I thought Calvinism is not an essential issue? Mark K. In fact the bible says EXACTLY what is blinding sinners from believing the gospel. In the very first class we listened to a sermon on God‟s sovereignty and in that sermon the speaker said if I didn‟t believe in God‟s sovereignty (as he was defining it by Calvinism) I‟m an idolator.
” “What did God show you?” . and one of you is a devil? Calvinist contradiction #15 Calvinist: “The bible says to rightly divide the word of truth so any contradictions should be studied until they are no longer contradictions.” “You mean like this?” John 6:70 Jesus answered them.” Calvinist contradiction #13 “What do you think God does with mentally handicapped people who might be unable to believe in Christ?” Calvinist: “God is merciful and would choose them for salvation.” “What about the contradiction between God‟s sovereignty and man‟s responsibility?” Calvinist: “Thats ok if we don‟t understand that…thats a mystery.” Calvinist: “No it doesn‟t! „World‟ doesn‟t mean all and „all‟ doesn‟t mean „all.” Why are contradictions in other ministries EXPOSED AS ERROR by Calvinists but not the ones in their own doctrine which are ACCEPTED as “mysteries?” Calvinist contradiction #16 Calvinist: “Do not add or take away from God‟s Word. for any.” “What do you think God does with other people who are unable to believe in Christ because they are totally depraved?” Calvinist: “God sends them to hell.” Calvinist contradiction #14 Calvinist: “The word „chosen‟ in the bible means chosen for salvation. Have not I chosen you twelve. for whosoever.‟ Calvinist contradiction #17 Calvinist: “God showed me the truth of Calvinism through the bible. for all of mankind.” “The bible says Christ died for the world. It teaches those who don‟t believe are condemned already (John 3:18) and you just told me the elect are never condemned.“The bible doesn‟t teach this anywhere.
God wants all to come to a knowledge of the truth.” “I thought you said the unsaved were people whom Christ never died for?” Calvinist: “Yes thats true. then grabs your arm and forces you to shoot someone are you responsible for doing this?” Calvinist: “No. you don‟t believe that. but I never invited you to my party!” Calvinist contradiction #21 Calvinist preaching to a crowd: “God is not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance. you believe God is not willing that the elect should perish and God only wants some people to come to a knowledge of the truth. so why are you lying to the crowd?” Calvinist contradiction #22 “If a strong body builder places a gun in your hand.” “Are you sure you got this new doctrine from God?” Calvinist contradiction #18 Calvinist: “God showed me the truth of Calvinism through the bible.” “Wait.” Calvinist: “Then I‟m defriending you for blaspheming God!” Calvinist contradiction #20 Calvinist: “People go to hell because they reject the gospel.” “I don‟t believe in the doctrines of grace.” A few years later this same Calvinist: “I no longer believe in limited atonement.Calvinist: “If you read <insert reformed teachers name here> book that sums up my beliefs. Calvinist contradiction #19 (On Facebook) Calvinist: “We shouldn‟t divide over Calvinism.” .” “Are you sure God showed you Calvinism in the first place?” Calvinist: silence. because the body builder forced me to do it.” “So the unsaved are going to hell for rejecting a salvation that isn‟t mean‟t for them? This is like saying I will send you to prison for not coming to my party.
“Was Judas forced by God to betray Christ?” Calvinist: “Yes. “Christ prayed „Forgive them Father for they know not what they do.” “Does this imply you love them and no one else in the world?” Calvinist: silence.” “Is Judas responsible for betraying Christ?” Calvinist: “Yes.” “Have you ever prayed for your children?” Calvinist: “Yes.” “What happens when the sinner is concerned about going to hell?” Calvinist: “I would share with them the good news that Christ died for their sins on the cross.” Calvinist contradiction #23 Calvinist: “While witnessing I would never tell a sinner God loves them because I wouldn‟t want to give them a false hope.” Calvinist contradiction #24 Calvinist: “In John 17:9 Christ prays only for believers in the Gospel of John which proves He doesn‟t love unbelievers.” Calvinist contradiction #26 .” Calvinist contradiction #25 Calvinist 1: “I believe <insert doctrine here>” Later that day talking to another Calvinist… Calvinist 2: “Your misrepresenting Calvinism! We don‟t believe <insert doctrine from Calvinist 1 here>.‟ Sounds like Christ is praying for unbelievers.” “Why would Christ die for their sins?” Calvinist: “Because He loves them.
” Calvinist contradiction #27 Calvinist: “<insert false teacher here> is teaching <insert false doctrine here>!” “You sound concerned.Calvinist: “I like Calvinism because I don‟t have to worry about whether I spoke incorrectly to a sinner while witnessing. Can someone predestined for heaven go to hell?” Calvinist: “No.” “Is there a wrong way and a right way to preaching the gospel?” Calvinist: “Oh yes! The gospel must be presented accurately.” “A false teacher can prevent predestination? I didn‟t realize they were more sovereign than God.” “Can someone predestined for hell go to heaven?” Calvinist: “No. God does it all.” Calvinist contradiction #28 Calvinist: “Those Westboro Baptist Calvinists are so wrong to hold up signs telling people God hates them!” “Do you believe God hates all evil doers?” Calvinist: “Yes.” “Then why are you concerned about what false teachers teach?” Calvinist: “Because God uses the gospel to save people and false teachers are preventing that.” “I assume since all people are sinners they are doing evil which means God hates everyone?” Calvinist: “Yes.” “Then I guess you better be careful how you speak.” “Then why are you upset at the Westboro Baptists for telling the truth as you believe it?” Calvinist contradiction #29 Calvinist: “God hates all evildoers” “Did God love His own while they were evildoers?” .
It says they aren‟t able to obey the law of God.” Calvinist contradiction #32 Calvinist: “Calvinism is growing which means its from God.Calvinist: “Yes.” “I thought truth was based on truth and not popularity?” Calvinist contradiction #33 Calvinist: “People go to hell because God hates the sinner and their sin! Sinners owe God their allegiance! After all He gave them life.” “Sinners are not UNWILLING to do what God wants they are UNABLE. friends. family.” Apparently Romans 8:7 is not teaching unbelievers are not able to do “anything good”.” Calvinist contradiction #30 Calvinist: “The bible says unbelievers cannot do anything good.” Calvinist contradiction #31 Calvinist: “Calvinists are the most humble of Christians since we believe God does everything and we can do nothing. Romans 8:7 says unbelievers cannot obey God‟s law. Then why is God getting angry at people who are unable to do what He wants?” Calvinist contradiction #34 . and they respond to this kindness with unbelief. The text doesn‟t say that. this is why everyone needs a savior. food. air to breathe. even once?” Calvinist: “Yes.” “When you were an unbeliever did you ever obey your conscience. nobody can.” “Does the bible say the conscience is God‟s law written on the hearts of everyone?” Calvinist: “Yes.” “You told me before sinners cannot believe in God unless God gives them the ability to believe?” Calvinist: “This is true.” “Then God doesn‟t hate everyone.” “You sound proud of your humility. and in the context of the bible as a whole this means an unbeliever cannot obey the ten commandments perfectly.
God does it all. Will they obey your instructions?” .” Calvinist contradiction #35 Calvinist: “God is sovereign in all things! He does whatever He wants. perhaps you are wrong and you should listen to that other Calvinist.” “Did God predestine the unelect for damnation?” Calvinist: “Yes. The unelect do not do God‟s will.” Calvinist contradiction #36 Calvinist: “You are misrepresenting Calvinism! We do not believe <insert doctrine here.” “I guess you have trapped God in a box.” “Then you cannot make that call. Then take their earplugs out.” “Then they are doing God‟s will.> “Some Calvinists I speak with tell me <insert doctrine here>.” “Is the sinner actually repenting and exercising faith through their free will?” Calvinist: “Yes when God gives these to them. Calvinist: “Well they are idiots!” “Are you the pope of Calvinism or the leader of the Calvinists?” Calvinist: “No. Now give them some instructions.” “Then I guess God doesn‟t do it all.Calvinist: “Jesus said anyone who does the will of the Father goes to heaven.” Calvinist: “Yes.” Calvinist contradiction #38 “Take a classroom of say 20 people and put earplugs in their ears.” Calvinist contradiction #37 Calvinist: “God gives faith and repentance to unbelievers. You can‟t trap God in a box!” “But you told me before God MUST change a sinner‟s heart so they can believe? This is the only way.
you believed ON YOUR OWN. Mark 6:6 And he marvelled because of their unbelief. but you were not willing! Here God is limited by what men do. Jerusalem. Did it bring forth wild grapes? “Here God is FRUSTRATED at Jerusalem for not coming to Him. they can‟t hear me! It wouldn‟t be right for me to get angry. Mark 6:5 And he could there do no mighty work. And he went round about the villages. as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings.” “How could I believe ON MY OWN if I am totally depraved and unable to believe ON MY OWN?” Calvinist contradiction #40 Calvinist: (said sarcastically) William‟s “god” is the ever-frustrated “god” that “hopes” men will come to “him” and heed “his” aid because according to William man has “free will” with concerning his salvation “Here God is FRUSTRATED with Israel since He did everything He could and it wasn‟t enough. you have a works based salvation and you are not saved. and healed them.Calvinist: “No. save that he laid his hands upon a few sick folk. Psalm 78:41 Yea.” Matthew 23:37 “O Jerusalem. they couldn‟t hear me. they turned back and tempted God. God had nothing to do with you believing.” . and limited the Holy One of Israel.” “Then why is God angry with totally depraved sinners in the same condition?” Calvinist contradiction #39 Calvinist: “Since you claim it was YOU who believed the gospel and God didn‟t regenerate your heart beforehand. the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! HOW OFTEN I WANTED to gather your children together. teaching.” Isaiah 5:4 4 WHAT MORE COULD HAVE BEEN DONE TO MY VINEYARD THAT I HAVE NOT DONE IN IT? Why then.” “Are you angry at them for disobeying your instructions?” Calvinist: “Why would I be angry. when I expected it to bring forth good grapes.
” “Does the conscience go AGAINST the will of the sinner?” Calvinist: “Yes. Not to mention the verses that actually say ALL and WORLD.” Calvinist contradiction #42 Calvinist: “The totally depraved cannot obey God. even once.” Calvinist contradiction #43 Calvinist: “The totally depraved cannot obey God. yes.” “Did God put a conscience in every human heart?” Calvinist: “Yes.” “What is the conscience?” Calvinist: “Its God‟s law.” “Then they are obeying God by doing what God created them to be!” Calvinist contradiction #45 Calvinist: “I know you are totally depraved because you don‟t believe in Calvinistic election.” .By the way.” “Does God create sinners to be destroyed?” Calvinist: “Yes.” “Christ died for the false teachers who deny Him in 2 Peter 2:1 and when He broke bread and drank wine to the Apostles He told them His body and blood will be shed for them…JUDAS WAS AT THE TABLE…Christ “tasted death for every man” so Christ did die for all. You can‟t believe me so you are a goat. God can and still does execute His plans even though people have free-will to disobey. but only for certain people.” “Then I guess you could obey God one time.” “Did you ever obey your conscience even once before you were a Christian?” Calvinist: “Well. You may want to reinterpret any verses you think says the opposite. Calvinist contradiction #41 Calvinist: “Christ did not die on the cross for everyone. even once.
nope.” “How could I have FIGURED IT OUT when Calvinism says I am totally unable to figure it out?” Calvinist contradiction #50 Calvinist: “God creates people to be destroyed for His own good pleasure and purpose. then I will pray your child is a goat.” “The bible clearly says repeatedly to BELIEVE on the Lord Jesus Christ for salvation. You are telling people to avoid doing the very thing God calls them to do…believe on Him to be saved. Catholics say. Thats fine with me.I‟m not like those others who denied you.” “Ok. God can do what He wants. Grace does. I FIGURED IT OUT because I‟m more spiritual that the rest.” .“If I‟m a goat thats scary!” Calvinist: “If a false teacher and believer have their faith disturbed. are required for salvation!” Calvinist contradiction #48 Calvinist: “YOU BELIEVED in Jesus name by your own power when BELIEF doesn‟t save anyone. which is an act of the sinners will!” Calvinist contradiction #49 Calvinist: “When you get to the judgment just tell Christ.I say GREAT!…if teaching His word is scary to many.then they need to heed what I say and check what I say…” “Why are you telling me to check out what you say when I am unable to understand the verses you give me? Are you mocking my depraved condition?” Calvinist contradiction #46 Calvinist: “If a false teacher and believer have their faith disturbed. Belief is a response to being made born again by God‟s choice.” “If I am a Roman Catholic without all the bells and whistles then I am not Roman Catholic! The bells and whistles.I say GREAT!…if teaching His word is scary to many. I made it Lord ! I could have told you no but I SAID YES.then they need to heed what I say and check what I say…” “You seem to be saying a person‟s fear will cause me to heed and listen to your words? Does this mean fear is more sovereign over God? My fear will force God to regenerate me?” Calvinist contradiction #47 Calvinist: “You believe in Roman Catholicism with a few less bells and whistles.
Calvinist: “You shouldn‟t pray that about my child!” “You tell me God is glorified by sending people to hell. not regeneration before faith! Furthermore Mike goes on to say that this supernatural event of God. I like Mike Gendron‟s ministry to Catholics but it would be better if Mike would reinterpret his doctrines so they don‟t contradict each other and not believe in the contradictory manmade traditions of Calvinism.” “Lastly telling a Catholic they will pray for God to draw him is confusing to the sinner who was just told to make a choice. When this supernatural event takes place. the new creature in Christ is sanctified by the truth and called to walk in the truth.” . The Spirit of God brought me to life after being spiritually dead for over 30 years. can be saved is when God extends His sovereign grace to a repenting sinner WHO HAS PLACED HIS FAITH in the Lord Jesus Christ alone.” My Comments: “Mike said it was only when he realized he must make a choice between the bible and Catholicism that God granted him repentance and faith. But why would a dead sinner want to leave a false religion to the truth unless they already know what the truth is? Something a dead sinner cannot believe in! And is God‟s election controlled by a sinner‟s willingness to leave a false religion? Calvinists tell me all the time God isn‟t moved by what men do.” Calvinist contradiction #51 This is from a newsletter I received from Mike Gendron‟s ministry. won‟t happen until he leaves the false religion of Catholicism. IT WAS THEN that God granted me repentance from the fatal errors of Catholicism and ENABLED ME TO BELIEVE the Word of God. Read this carefully and notice the uppercase wording (my emphasis). To answer your question. I didn‟t speak with him personally but I have included my comments since what he says is typical contradictory rhetoric from Calvinists. Calvinist Mike Gendron writing to a Catholic in a newsletter: “I HAD A CRISIS OF FAITH WHEN I KNEW I HAD TO MAKE A CHOICE between believing the Word of God and the traditions of my religion. THIS IS NOT POSSIBLE IF YOU REMAIN IN A FALSE RELIGION…WE WILL PRAY FOR GOD TO DRAW YOU. or anyone else. your dad and your stepmother to Christ (John 6:44). the only way a Catholic. How could Mike have a crisis in faith before regeneration? How could Mike know he had to make a choice between the word of God or Catholic tradition? Knowing you must make a choice means he already understands what the bible says since it conflicts with Catholicism! Something Calvinists say a dead sinner cannot understand!” “Mike then says God extends His sovereign grace to a repenting sinner WHO HAS PLACED HIS FAITH in the Lord…this is faith before regeneration. Apparently its ok for people you don‟t care about to be created for destruction for God‟s own good pleasure. You never see the Apostles praying this kind of prayer or saying this to sinners. which is giving a sinner faith. But when its someone you love its not ok? This is called hypocrisy…pretending to be interested in God‟s glory in the damnation of people…unless its someone you love and then you don‟t like it.
Calvinist contradiction #52 Calvinist: “I would never tell a sinner Christ died for them. a worker who does not need to be ashamed. brethren. He also mentions its the same gospel HE received. how that CHRIST DIED FOR OUR SINS according to the scriptures. I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you. 2 By which also ye are saved . Part of that message is CHRIST DIED FOR YOUR SINS. which also ye have received . So saying Christ died for your sins is part of the gospel. Christ died for all. I suppose you could stop lying by not evangelizing altogether but then you would be sinning again by not obeying the Great Commission. It seems no matter what you do you are sinning. rightly dividing the word of truth. . thats not part of the gospel! The Apostles never said that to sinners!” “In 1 Corinthians 15 the Apostle Paul told fellow believers what gospel he taught them BEFORE they were Christians.” 1 Corinthians 15 1 Moreover. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all THAT WHICH I RECEIVED .” “Are you saying there is a different gospel for the elect than the unelect?” Calvinist: “um…well…no. 4 And that he was buried . Of course Paul would say Christ died for them because they are the elect. The truth will set you free!” Calvinist contradiction #53 “How do you harmonize the contradictory ideas of God‟s sovereignty and man‟s accountability? You define them as God controls everything and sinners cannot choose Christ but are still responsible for rejecting Him?” Calvinist: “The bible doesn‟t pretend to harmonize them and neither should I!” “Contradictions mean you aren‟t rightly dividing the word of truth which means you aren‟t presenting yourself approved of God. This of course may cause you on occasion to lie to the unelect since you believe Christ didn‟t die for everyone. and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures Calvinist: “Paul was talking to Christians in that verse. My goodness what a mess! There is a simple solution for all this that brings peace of mind. You could argue God commands you to evangelize and do it anyway but then that means God is commanding you to eventually lie to someone at some point. and wherein ye stand . if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you.” 2 Timothy 2:15 15 Be diligent to present yourself approved to God.” “You may want to tell sinners Christ died for them otherwise you aren‟t giving them the means by which God saves. unless ye have believed in vain.
you aren‟t making a very good defense of the faith since the doctrines of grace are contradictory to logic. always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you. COME TODAY because tommorrow it might be too late. I always want to give a defense of the doctrines of grace: 1 Peter 3:15 15 but in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy. but of power and of love and of a sound mind “Please rethink the interpretations you have because they don‟t demonstrate you have the mind of Christ.” “Why are you posting a sign that goes against your belief that God does indeed pass over people for hell because he wants them there for his own good pleasure? Why are you suggesting a sinner can come to Jesus when you say they cannot? Why do you continue to put signs like this out and then confuse people later with Calvinistic doctrines that contradict the sign?” Calvinist contradiction #56 “Is your father saved?” Calvinist: “No.” Calvinist contradiction #54 Calvinist: “I‟m witnessing to you because of 1 Peter 3:15. its HOPELESS! Lastly. Secondly.” “Why would your father love a god who hated him before he was born? A God who created him for destruction? Who doesn‟t love him enough to save him? Does God‟s hatred of them bring people to repentance? ” . yet do it with gentleness and respect.“Since you believe contradictions are truth you don‟t seem to have the sound mind God has given you. common sense and the bible itself. you aren‟t very gentle or respectful since you judge my heart telling me I will stand before God with pride I have saved myself!” Calvinist contradiction #55 Calvinist: Posting a sign on facebook that says “Repent and be saved come to Jesus today.” “First. He wants to give you Eternal Life. waiting around for God to regenerate me so I can believe is not HOPEFUL.” 2 Timothy 1:7 7 For God has not given us a spirit of fear. He doesn‟t want to see you suffer in HELL. he hates God so why should God love him?” “You mean your father‟s hatred is causing God to hate your father?” Calvinist: “Yes.
” “I‟m definitely not a Roman Catholic! Do you believe you must persevere in good works to prove your saved?” Calvinist: “Yes.” .” “Then I guess you must cooperate with God to ensure your salvation.” “Has God prepared these good works for you to do?” Calvinist: “Yes. which means you are a goat.” “I agree with you.” “Why don‟t you follow your own advice and do the same with your contradictory Calvinist doctrines? It seems to me you may want to remove the log in your own eye before tackling someone else‟s beliefs. tribulations.” Calvinist contradiction #58 Calvinist: “You don‟t understand the verses I am giving you about God giving you faith. and persecution. Jesus said believers will have trials. where in the bible does it say the gospel is…believing God gives me faith? Where did the Apostles teach or tell a sinner you must believe God gives you faith to be saved? You may believe the bible teaches this concept in other places but NOWHERE do you find the Apostles in the book of Acts telling sinners to believe this concept or they are a goat!” Calvinist contradiction #59 Calvinist: “Since you believe you had faith on your own without God giving it.Calvinist contradiction #57 Calvinist: “You can‟t use reason and logic! What Scripture says is all that matters!” “Do you think Joel Olsteen is a false teacher and if you do why?” Calvinist: “Yes.” “First. you are no different than a Roman Catholic who thinks you must cooperate with God to be saved. But you know Joel Olsteen uses Scripture to back up his claims of prosperity?” Calvinist: “He tries to but those verses cannot mean what he says since it conflicts with other parts of the bible. So if Joel were honest he should reinterpret those verses that contradict?” Calvinist: “Yes. Because he teaches a prosperity gospel where you can have your best life now.” “I agree. you don‟t know who the unelect will be so how do you know I‟m a goat? Secondly.
” .2 Corinthians 3 6 Nevertheless when one turns to the Lord.” “Yes I believe that. A sinners inability to come to Christ or blindness doesn‟t matter…what matters is whether God chose them that matters! Please reinterpret your doctrines so they logically work within themselves. punify God‟s attributes of love. unable to turn to Christ?” Calvinist: “God must make someone born again before they can turn to Christ. the veil is taken away.” “Did you have to make sure you are walking in obedience to God‟s Will?” Calvinist: “Yes.” Calvinist contradiction #63 Calvinist: “Gods eternal decrees from eternity past stands forever with the wicked and the ones he has declared righteous. punifying God‟s glory. 2 Corinthians 3 doesn‟t say that.Calvinist contradiction #60 Calvinist: “I believe in Calvinism because the doctrine elevates God‟s glory to the max.” Calvinist contradiction #62 Calvinist: “Sinners who turn to the Lord will have their blindness taken away. thereby contradicting the idea the bible presents that GOD IS LOVE. Secondly.” “Does giving God glory mean giving God credit for who He is?” Calvinist: “Yes.” Calvinist contradiction #61 Calvinist: “Calvinists are the most humble of Christians since we believe God does everything and we can do nothing.” “Then I guess you have to do something. Its God who decides their eternal destiny in Calvinism. as you say. It shows God is holy to all.” “First. but certainly not eternally loving to all. ironically.” “Exactly! The doctrines of grace.” “In Calvinism Christ didn‟t die for the unelect so how could the unelect praise God for eternally loving them?” Calvinist: “Christ didn‟t die for the unelect so they wouldn‟t glorify His eternal love for them. but…how can a sinner turn to Christ when they are. their blindness has nothing to do with their eternal destiny if Calvinism is true. your man-made philosophy called Calvinism does.
or the Mormons who use the book of Mormon. except in my case since I am right now trumping them. or the Jehovah Witnesses who use the Watchtower to interpret for them.something you say totally depraved sinners cannot do!” Calvinist contradiction #66 Calvinist: “God sends people to hell for their sin!” “Do Calvinists believe God hated Esau before he did anything good or bad?” Calvinist: “Yes. I‟m certain you would condemn these belief systems based on this but you don‟t with your own.“Sinners have free will to believe the gospel.” “Sounds like a sinner‟s sin has nothing to do with their damnation. This is no different than a Catholic using the Catechism to interpret for them. Doctrines and Covenants to interpret for them.I say GREAT!…if teaching His word is scary to many.” Calvinist contradiction #65 Calvinist: “If a false teacher and believer have their faith disturbed. Pearl of Great Price.. such as Felix in the book of Acts.” Later in the conversation Calvinist: “I would challenge you to read [the canons of dort]” and “listen I‟ve studied the doctrines of grace for years” “Using the doctrines of men as your interpreter is not a true exegetical hermeneutical form of interpretation of scripture.then they need to heed what I say and check what I say…” “Have you noticed the people who are afraid after hearing the gospel. are afraid BECAUSE they UNDERSTAND it. How contradictory is that! Would you condemn paraphrases such as the Message Bible? I‟m sure you would because its a PARAPHRASE of the bible…its someone‟s opinion of what the bible says…what you are doing is no different.” “Am I trumping God‟s decree by rejecting Calvinism?” Calvinist: “your free will is trumping Gods decrees!!!!!!!” “Originally you said God‟s eternal decrees from eternity past stands forever.” Calvinist contradiction #64 Calvinist: “You must use a true exegetical hermeneutical form of interpretation of scripture.” Calvinist contradiction #67 . studying for years the opinions of men thinking this is God speaking to you.” Calvinist: “ok your freewill trumps Gods decree? I don‟t think so.
not justice!” Calvinist contradiction #68 Calvinist: “God ordains ALL things. In order to be just and righteous God must treat everyone with the same level of justice. as Calvinism states. There is nothing done in the universe outside of God‟s will.> “<show another verse that contradicts the Calvinist view>” Calvinist: <ignore it and use the same standard verses interpreting them as a Calvinist would> “<show yet another verse that contradicts the Calvinist view>” . If you can‟t accept the fact that God can violate the will of anyone He desires. mercy and love. When He takes favoritism on some. Please pray God will pour out his infinite love on them healing them as a testimony of his mercy and power!” “According to Calvinism God ordained the cancer so why are you going against God‟s will by praying for their healing? God has already demonstrated His glory by giving them cancer. otherwise its not just. Justice knows nothing of favoritism! If a judge pays the fine for his own kids so they can be set free because he loves them while he doesn‟t do that for others sending them to prison never giving them the opportunity to be set free is a corrupt judge.” “Did you hear about the 3 year-old daughter and mother diagnosed with cancer at the same time? Isn‟t that a tragedy?” Calvinist: “Yes.Calvinist: “It would be fair for God to send all of us to hell since we all deserve it.” Calvinist contradiction #70 Calvinist: “The doctrines of grace is the only way to rightly divide the word of truth. Are you trying to undo God‟s glory? Why are you going against His Will?” Calvinist contradiction #69 Calvinist: “God does whatever He wants to whenever He wants to. Its unfair for God to save anyone!” “If its unfair for God to save anyone than apparently God is going against His own justice system of FAIRNESS. and sends them to heaven that is also UNFAIR to those whom He didn‟t do that for.” “<show a verse that contradicts the Calvinist view>” Calvinist: <ignore it and use the standard verses interpreting them as a Calvinist would. then you are not now nor will you ever be able to accept Him as the God He truly is.” “I didn‟t realize the god who can do whatever he wants whenever he wants to including the violation of a person‟s will is waiting for my acceptance.
would that be idolatry?” Calvinist: “Yes. This is idolatry because God is holier than that. You aren‟t rightly dividing the word of truth by ignoring verses that contradict your belief system. The reason I oppose Calvinism is because I understand what it teaches!” Calvinist contradiction #74 Calvinist: “You don‟t believe Calvinism because you have pride and want to take credit for your salvation.” “I agree. Secondly faith isn‟t defined as a WORK in the bible but you are suggesting it is. calling God a liar in His Holy Word. Calvinist contradiction #72 Calvinist: “A sinner told me that his god is a god of love and not judgement. Any verses that contradict are not mysteries but errors!” Calvinist contradiction #71 Non-Calvinist: “I heard of a book called The Shack that changes God‟s character and nature. He changed it where salvation is based on God‟s election choices.” “You just admitted Calvinism is idolatry. which is unjust. Its heresy to change God‟s character and nature!” A year and a half later this person became a Calvinist where he changed God‟s character and nature from being eternally loving to all to eternally loving to some. which is different than understanding what it teaches. and sends only really bad people to hell. He changed it where God‟s tender mercies are NOT over ALL His works. not personal faith and trust in Christ. What if the opposite is true and God‟s justice is elevated over His love. Furthermore why would I have pride when I believe my only hope for heaven is what Christ did for me on the cross?” . He changed it where God‟s justice is based on favoritism. elevating your own ideas to infallibility.Calvinist: <ignore it and use the same standard verses interpreting them as a Calvinist would> “You don‟t seem to be willing to see that contradictions in verses are there because your interpretation is incorrect.” Calvinist contradiction #73 Calvinist: “You don‟t understand Calvinism!” “What you are saying is I do not believe Calvinism is true.” “First you are violating the command by Christ to not judge by appearance. you have no idea what is in my heart. He changed God‟s words where “all” really means “some” when God never said that.
and that every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.” “If God chose to not love some people than He isn‟t infinitely loving! You can‟t get better than INFINITE!” Calvinist contradiction #77 Calvinist: “God is sovereign and men have responsibility for what they believe. were very wicked. Sinners can and do good things sometimes. God is sovereign and men have responsibility for what they believe. NOT everyone who has ever lived or who will live are that evil. but thats not the issue. People aren‟t as wicked today as they will be tomorrow. The issue is we aren‟t perfect.” Calvinist contradiction #76 Calvinist: “He would still be infinitely loving even if He chose not to love us at all. that is called regeneration.Calvinist contradiction #75 At a bible study with a Calvinist: “Everyone are just like the people in Genesis 6:5.” “How could men be responsible for what they believe when God decreed what they will or will not believe?” Calvinist: “You don‟t understand Calvinism. Suggesting a sinner cannot do one good thing and that is the reason they go to hell is not what the bible says. All you have done is repeat the statement you made before without answering my question.” “5 The LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth. AT THAT TIME.” Calvinist contradiction #79 Calvinist: “Sinners must have the Holy Spirit in them BEFORE they believe the gospel. it only makes it more apparent!” Calvinist contradiction #78 Calvinist: “Sinners cannot do anything good which is why they go to hell. only God is good (perfect). Telling me what Calvinism teaches doesn‟t solve the contradiction. All Genesis 6:5 is saying is the people. It teaches perfection is required to enter heaven and this is why we all fall short. Matthew 5:48). Matthew 19:17.” . and we aren‟t perfect (Romans 3:23.” “The bible doesn‟t teach sinners go to hell because they can‟t do ANYTHING good. even Jesus said they give good things to their children.” “How does your statement about what Calvinism teaches exonerates the doctrine from being contradictory on this topic? Answer: It doesn‟t. ” “While it is true the bible teaches the human heart is desperately wicked the bible also teaches all people are not as evil as they could be at all times.
even the demons believe.” Calvinist: <ignore this and pull up another verse that supposedly proves total inability when it doesn‟t since the verse I listed contradicts it. then received the Spirit.> Calvinist contradiction #81 Calvinist: “Sinners must have the Holy Spirit in them BEFORE they believe the gospel.> Calvinist contradiction #83 . Paul still didn‟t have the Holy Spirit in him so how could he have believed?” Calvinist: “The Apostle Paul didn‟t have saving faith.> Calvinist contradiction #82 Calvinist: “Sinners must have the Holy Spirit in them BEFORE they believe the gospel.” Calvinist: <ignore this and pull up another verse that supposedly proves total inability when it doesn‟t since the verse I listed contradicts it. that is called regeneration.” Calvinist: <ignore this and pull up another verse that supposedly proves total inability when it doesn‟t since the verse I listed contradicts it. all the while showing you have no defense for this doctrine. all the while showing you have no defense for this doctrine. Oh by the way you still didn‟t answer my question.” “How does Christ appearing to Paul have anything to do with the Holy Spirit indwelling a sinner? Answer: Nothing. (and they never do). that is called regeneration. If it weren‟t for that Paul wouldn‟t have believed.“The Apostle Paul believed BEFORE he had the spirit three days later. that is called regeneration.” Calvinist contradiction #80 Calvinist: “Sinners must have the Holy Spirit in them BEFORE they believe the gospel.” Calvinist: “The Apostle Paul‟s conversion is an example of total depravity because Christ had to do something before he believed. but had John‟s baptism and not the baptism of the Spirit.” “In Eph 1:12-13 says the Spirit indwells AFTER belief.” “In Acts 814-19 the Samaritans believed first. all the while showing you have no defense for this doctrine.” “The demons don‟t obey Christ and Paul did which means Paul had saving faith. which is Christ appeared to Paul.” “In Acts 19:2-4 the followers of John the Baptist believed.
and therefore they aren‟t rejecting it!” Calvinist contradiction #85 Calvinist: “You should stop causing division among Christian brothers with your arguments.” “This would mean that at some point you are lying to the unelect with a gospel not mean‟t for them. a lying tongue. and one who sows discord among brothers. and hands that shed innocent blood. Secondly. that is called regeneration.” .” “First.> Calvinist contradiction #84 Calvinist: “The unelect go to hell because they have rejected the gospel of salvation.Calvinist: “Sinners must have the Holy Spirit in them BEFORE they believe the gospel.” “If this is the case Christ isn‟t offering the gospel to them. 19 a false witness who breathes out lies. Calvinism teaches lies about God‟s character and nature so you may want to point those verses back at yourself. seven that are an abomination to him: 17 haughty eyes.” Calvinist: “I‟m not lying! I‟m commanded by God to preach to all.” Calvinist contradiction #86 Calvinist: “I preach the gospel to all because I don‟t know who the elect are.” Calvinist: <ignore this and pull up another verse that supposedly proves total inability when it doesn‟t since the verse I listed contradicts it. feet that make haste to run to evil. v19) more since He listed them twice. Proverbs 6:16-19 16 There are six things that the Lord hates. did you notice there is something in these verses that God hates more than discord? God hates liars (v17. He didn‟t. God hates that according to Proverbs 6:16-19. all the while showing you have no defense for your belief.” “Cornelious in Acts 10 who was a gentile believer but didn‟t have the spirit in him until the end of the chapter. you have already told me you don‟t know who the elect are so you don‟t know who is a brother in Christ and who isn‟t.” “Did Christ die for the unelect?” Calvinist: “No. 18 a heart that devises wicked plans.
are you taking credit for your own salvation?” Calvinist contradiction #89 Calvinist: “You are being critical of doctrinally-sound teachers!” “I didn‟t realize teachers who have contradictory beliefs were considered doctrinally sound!” Calvinist contradiction #90 Calvinist: “Your opposition to Calvinism is causing disunity among Christians (Romans 16:17) and its a bad witness for the world to see.” “First. Christ commands me to preach the gospel to every creature.” “First. what Calvinists first learned before they were Calvinists. However I‟m uncertain as to how that fact prevents you from lying to the unelect with offers of salvation God has no intention of giving them?” .“So God is commanding you to lie?” Calvinist contradiction #87 Calvinist: “You don‟t like the true God because you want to take credit for your salvation!” “First. which I don‟t have. Secondly the bible doesn‟t define faith as a work. I didn‟t think truth was something you PREFERRED unless you are someone who has itching ears (2 Timothy 4:3). and in many cases.” Calvinist contradiction #88 Calvinist: “I PREFER Calvinism because I don‟t have to take credit for my own salvation. you are violating the command to not judge people by appearance since you are accusing me of having pride. therefore I am not taking credit for my salvation. so suggesting we are all Christians is not something you would know. Furthermore. Secondly. Calvinism is CONTRARY to what I have learned. if Calvinism is true it makes no difference what kind of witness this is to the world. Secondly. Thirdly. Romans 16:17 says the division is being caused by DOCTRINES that are CONTRARY to what I have learned. The elect will be elect and the unelect will be the unelect. if Calvinism is true my “bad witnessing” has been ordained by God so why get upset about what God has decreed me to say and do? Who are you to question God?” Calvinist contradiction #91 Calvinist: “I‟m not lying when I preach the gospel to all. you previously told me you don‟t know who the elect are. nothing will change the fates of those whom God passes over for hell and chooses for heaven.” “It is true Christ commands you to preach the gospel to everyone.
” “Ok.Calvinist contradiction #92 Calvinist: “Who are you to question God?” “I‟m not questioning God I‟m questioning your interpretations.” “Are you suggesting Gods actions are limited by His nature and character?” Calvinist: “Yes. Do you think your interpretations of scripture are infallible?” Calvinist: “I never said I was infallible. so your god loves only some eternally and my God loves all eternally.” “Can God cause sin? Can God contradict Himself? Can God violate His own justice?” Calvinist: “No. which means you are being a false witness for Christ?” Calvinist contradiction #95 Calvinist: “Calvinists and non-Calvinists shouldn‟t divide over this doctrine since we all believe the same gospel. So I assume you must think you are infallible and YOUR word stands forever instead of the Lords.” “You aren‟t willing to be corrected when verses you interpret say one thing and other scriptures contradict that interpretation.” “You mean you use verses in such a way as to imply salvation is for all when in fact you don‟t believe that. Your god blames sinners for not believing a gospel that isn‟t mean‟t for them since he didn‟t die for those sinners and my God blames sinners for not believing a gospel that is for them since He died . His justice.” “Then I guess God can‟t do anything at anytime.” Calvinist contradiction #93 Calvinist: “God can do anything at anytime.” “Is the gospel about who God is?” Calvinist: “What do you mean?” “The gospel describes the attributes of God doesn‟t it? His love. His mercy?” Calvinist: “Yes.” Calvinist contradiction #94 Calvinist: “When I preach the gospel to a crowd I preach like an Arminian.
for them.” “People are separated from God because they have sinned (Isaiah 59:2 Romans 3:23) which means they are at enmity with Him. He quoted verses and interpreted them according to a system of theology called Calvinism. after all God‟s word “won‟t return void. that I‟m an Arminian (when I‟m not). pat himself on the back for persevering in the faith.” Later in the conversation Calvinist: “You‟re an Arminian!” “Apparently you think anyone who isn‟t a Calvinist is automatically an Arminian. When he gets backed into a theological corner he told me I‟m prideful (when I‟m not). His “witnessing” technique to convert me was not with the gospel.” From this point on his witnessing strategy to “convert me” was to assume what I believe and why I believe it without asking. You have been trained to think this way by reformed writers and preachers. which has nothing to do with a person being able to make a choice to believe in Christ. as God requires. Then finally determine I am apostate because God hasn‟t caused me to believe him. and move on. If I don‟t believe his interpretation quote more verses. and I must hate the sovereign God of the bible (when I don‟t).” Later in the conversation Calvinist: “You‟re an Arminian!” “I already told you I‟m not an Arminian.com: “Adrian Rogers preaches an Arminian false gospel of free-will and therefore he preaches a false Christ and false god.” Calvinist contradiction #96 Calvinist: “You‟re an Arminian!” “No. because he is at enmity to Him. but by showing me Calvinist doctrines! As if my belief in Calvinist doctrines will convert me instead of the gospel! Calvinist contradiction #98 Calvinist: “A person will never choose Christ and salvation. that I don‟t understand Calvinism (when I do).” Calvinist contradiction #97 A Calvinist on youtube. actually I‟m not. so much so that you won‟t listen to what I am telling you.” If I give verses which contradict his verses ignore them and quote more because somehow this makes contradictions go away. Therefore since the God I believe in behaves differently than yours with different motivations its obvious we have different gods and we do not believe the same gospels. Repentance is a change of mind where you don‟t want to be God‟s enemy any longer!” Calvinist contradiction #99 .
“Verily. The meaning behind “nor the will of man” is no different than what Jesus said here: John 10:1. For further clarification lets say I decide to invent my own way to Heaven by throwing a stuffed teddy bear on the floor and dance around it. verily. Its not God‟s will that sinners invent their own way to heaven! The phrase “nor the will of man” cannot mean BELIEVING THE GOSPEL because if it did it nullifies the hundred or so scriptures that say to do just that. You cannot enter by bypassing the gate. How could Saul believe and obey Christ without the Holy Spirit in him? Answer: Sinners without the Holy Spirit CAN believe the truth if God presents it to them. which is GOD‟S WILL!” Calvinist contradiction #101 Calvinist: “God preserves you until the end and if He didn‟t you would fall back into unbelief and rebellion. He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold. and this is what that phrase “nor the will of man” means. Did Cain try to gain favor with God by inventing his own sacrifice? Yes. Anyone who follows one path or another is following God‟s plan so to say man has AUTHORITY over God based on their belief or unbelief is an irrational statement that comes from man-made traditions. its God‟s and HE makes the rules on how to enter it. Secondly. its MY WILL…the WILL OF MAN.” . I say unto you. thats a false statement. God has ordained that any who believes in Him will be saved and any who do not will be damned. its ironic you listed John 1:12-13 since it contradicts your ideas. the same is a thief and a robber. Sinners cannot invent their own ideas on how to enter because its not our heaven. This doesn‟t mean sinners always will but it does mean they can. God does it all. I wouldn‟t say man has AUTHORITY over God. Jesus called. he responded: yes Lord! “A response… is a choice! Furthermore Saul did not have the Holy Spirit in him when he said: yes Lord… since he didn‟t receive the Holy Spirit until three days later. John 1:12-13 says as many as RECEIVED Him…RECEPTION is the key…an act of the sinner‟s will…without that there is no conversion! The part in the verse you are focusing on that says “nor the will of man” CANNOT include “believing the gospel” since sinners are called from Genesis to Revelation to believe in the gospel and the savior. Will that get me to heaven? No.Calvinist: “I see no choice made in Saul/Paul‟s conversion. Salvation is not by the will of man see John 1:12-13. Mankind cannot enter God‟s heaven by any means they want to. Why? Because its not the will of God that I do that. Calvinist contradiction #100 Calvinist: “You have not listed any Scripture that states man has authority over God‟s electing grace. but climbeth up some other way.” Did the people at the tower of Babel try to enter heaven by building a tower to heaven? Yes.” “First.
” “Why would I read books that tell me what the bible says which is the same as a paraphrase and not God‟s words directly from the Scriptures? You might as well read the Message Bible!” Calvinist contradiction #103 Calvinist: “The theology you defend is opposed to the teachings of Ignatius. Luther. The only place it says this is in the minds of reformed writers and preachers.” Calvinist contradiction #102 “Would you read the Message Bible?” Calvinist: “No. and countless others including Jesus and the Apostle Paul.” “Jesus explained He did the miracle of raising Lazarus from the dead to prove He was the Messiah to the people witnessing it.” “Ok. but because of the people who are standing by I said this.” Calvinist contradiction #105 . Jones. Tertullian.” “So much for the concept of bible alone. Calvin. Boice. Melanchthon. Edwards. Sproul. Hus. thats a terrible bible to read! Its a paraphrase and not God‟s words. Whitefield. By the way Calvinists traditionally oppose Catholicism but you seem to be okay with believing Augustine‟s doctrines who is considered the father of the modern Catholic church. Zwingli. John 11:42 And I know that You always hear Me. Piper. MacArthur.” “Then I guess God isn‟t preserving you very well. what do you believe about election?” Calvinist: “If you want to understand election try reading Potter‟s Freedom by James White. Where does it say in John 11 this miracle is to demonstrate people are unable to believe the gospel? You are adding meanings to events God never intended. Spurgeon.” Calvinist contradiction #104 Calvinist: “Dead sinners cannot bring themselves back to spiritual life and they cannot believe the gospel. Augustine. I didn‟t know people outside the scriptures were infallible in everything they say. Owen.“Do you still sin today?” Calvinist: “Yes. Bunyan. Wycliffe. Just like Lazarus cannot bring himself from the dead neither can a sinner. that they may believe that You sent Me.
He is upset at their sinful rebellion. Many don‟t call it “Calvinism” because that word is “controversial” but instead call it the “doctrines of grace” which makes it sound better. Furthermore I didn‟t realize God‟s sovereignty was moved by the desires of a sinner since Calvinist election relies on nothing a sinner does or thinks. sneaking the doctrine in unawares. Who would be against grace? This is called deception. If Calvinists have to sneak the doctrine in under a different name to avoid controversy that shows how dishonest they are and are no better than a false teacher who HAS TO DECEIVE others in order for them to believe what they say. and judging my heart. so we don‟t talk about it. . Jerusalem. but you were not willing!” Calvinist contradiction #106 Calvinist: “When a sinner wants to be saved from the power of sin God will cause him to turn to the savior for salvation. and the people who listen have no idea they are being indoctrinated into a man-made tradition of belief created by the Gnostics. Calvinist contradiction #108 Calvinist: “Calvinism is a controversial subject. thats all. insults. Jesus is clearly frustrated with the Jews who refuse to come to Him because he wants them to come to Him: Matthew 23:37 O Jerusalem.” Later I find out these same people teach Calvinism in bible studies or online.Calvinist: “In Matthew 23:37 God isn‟t frustrated with sinners who don‟t come to Him since God does what He wants with whoever He wants. as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings. the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! HOW OFTEN I WANTED to gather your children together. After all.” “A plain reading of the verse doesn‟t fit what you just said. so you contradicted Calvinism. the god of Calvinism lies to the unelect using the gospel message with offers of salvation he has no intention of giving them.” Later I show scriptures to validate what I am saying which produces from the Calvinist aggression. Furthermore it shows the nature of the god they serve by using deceit. adopted by Augustine and further developed by John Calvin nor are they presented with alternative interpretations. which are very strong emotions not based on scripture.” “A sinner is UNABLE to have the desire to turn from sin or want to be saved BEFORE God causes him to turn to the savior.” Calvinist contradiction #107 Calvinist: “Your arguments are based on emotions and not scripture.
” Relabeling a controversial doctrine called Calvinism into the “doctrines of grace” or suggesting this comes directly from the bible when its really a man-made philosophical system or suggesting its a non-essential issue we can disagree on makes it easier for acceptance. whether it is from God or whether I speak on My own authority.” Later Maharishi relabeled it as a “scientific” practice and then it was accepted.” There are many that teach people must make a choice between following God or not. which suggest they have the free-will to do so. Or free-will is limited. Evolutionists do the same thing by changing the labels “evolutionary theory” to “evolutionary science. Its as if God needs their help in sneaking the doctrine into the body of Christ. therefore choose life. 1 Kings 18:21 1 And Elijah came to all the people. that I have set before you life and death. but if Baal. and said. I always thought it strange Calvinists would go through the trouble of doing this since they claim God will do what he wants to do anytime he wants to do it. he shall know concerning the doctrine.” The ironic thing is Calvinists say sinners are unable to believe the truth with their free will but get mad at them for not believing the truth. “How long will you falter between two opinions? If the Lord is God. follow him. blessing and cursing.” . Deuteronomy 30:19 19 I call heaven and earth as witnesses today against you. Here are a few: John 7:17 17 If anyone wants to do His will. that both you and your descendants may live. follow Him.” But the people answered him not a word. If you wanted to fly like a bird by flapping your arms you can‟t. If you were driving to a church and the police were blocking your way you couldn‟t go. Likewise an unbeliever doesn‟t have the free-will to believe. acting as if they have the free-will to believe it! Calvinist contradiction #110 Calvinist: “We don‟t have free will to do whatever we want. The bottom line is if you have to deceive people into believing something you are manipulating them instead of allowing the Holy Spirit to teach them. Maharishi Mahesh Yogi tried to bring Transcendental Meditation to the West in the 1960′s and it received little acceptance among Americans because it was labeled as a religious practice which made it “controversial.Jesus spoke the plain truth to everyone and didn‟t keep anything hidden or sneak something in by another name to make it more palatable. Calvinist contradiction #109 Calvinist: “There is no where in the bible that teaches people have free will.
I find it interesting you would try to make our beliefs the same. so its unloving of God to create these people. and the non-Calvinist God DOES. I DESIRE to go to church. Calvinist contradiction #112 Calvinist: “God hates the unelect. If someone goes to hell its because God stacked the deck against them. There is NO eternal love for them by God.” “You are trying to paint a picture that my God is just as unloving as yours it. that He is directly responsible for people who end up in hell. and prophecy to assist them. There are biblical examples of people who believe the truth without the Holy Spirit in them. Christ died for them ALL. In the non-Calvinist view God OFFERS salvation to the unsaved because He loved EVERYONE before they did anything good or bad. You believe God created people whom He knew would go to hell.” . Christ never died for them. They are not the same at all! Is my God DIRECTLY responsible for their eternal destiny in the SAME WAY yours is? Clearly not. There is eternal love for them by God. Likewise a sinner who cannot be perfect enough to enter heaven through their good works may have the DESIRE to enter. GOD MADE THE FIRST MOVE ALREADY. which is God intervening. conscience. I may desire to drive to a church and won‟t make it because the police are blocking me. Lets take a quick look. like Esau. We believe in completely different gods with different personalities.” Calvinist: “The only desire sinners have is to sin! No one would choose Christ unless God intervenes. but you have the same problem. However it is not true that once God does a sinner is UNABLE to believe what God told them. God has already given the sinner creation. the law. If someone goes to hell its because they rejected the LOVE of God through the gospel. since He gives everyone the full opportunity to be with Him in heaven.” (listed in other contradictions on this page) Calvinist contradiction #111 Calvinist: “You say our god is unloving because he creates people for hell. Deep down you KNOW the god of Calvinism is not very nice so you try to bring mine down to your level. when they could have accepted it.“The nature of free-will has nothing to do with the ability to do something but the desire to do something. In the Calvinist view God NEVER offers salvation to the unsaved because he hated them before they did anything good or bad. This belief is an act of their will. The Calvinist God NEVER loved them eternally. I‟m certain God is angry at this comparison. when your god doesn‟t do a thing for them in this regard. demonstrating His eternal love for them. and this desire is demonstrated through belief in the gospel.” “Its true God must bring the message of Himself to a world that cannot see Him. But that doesn‟t matter.
he never died for them on the cross. I perfectly understand why God has preordained her outcome. clothing. but the evidence of obedience does? Its too bad a false faith gives the same evidence which means you really can never know!” Calvinist contradiction #115 From a video Calvinis in reference to believing the gospel: “I wasn‟t willing but I was always willing for God to make me willing. these temporary benefits don‟t really benefit!” Calvinist contradiction #113 Calvinist on youtube commenting on someone he witnessed to: “I could see she had no idea she was a sinner. Jesus said „What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world and loses his soul?‟ In other words. as the bible says it does.” Did you notice he contradicted himself? He is suggesting God preordained her unbelief because of…her unbelief! Calvinist contradiction #114 Calvinist: “God can give someone a false faith that looks like real faith to damn them further. It seems to me the idea of total depravity. she thought muslims were nice people and didn‟t know what they believed. Faith is trust. is in error.” “Its a very strange thing for you to say God hates the unelect.Later in the conversation Calvinst: “God does love sinners. He gives them food. and family while on Earth. as Calvinists define it. shelter. something a total depraved sinner is incapable of doing according to Calvinism.” “How do you know if YOU are saved?” Calvinist: “The only way to know if I have saving faith is if I‟m persevering in the faith. she didn‟t like that He didn‟t accept sodomites because she‟d been brainwashed to accept them. He gives them common grace.” The desire to be willing is itself. has questions in her mind but had never searched the scriptures for answers. You had faith and trust in God before you believed the gospel.” “Your faith doesn‟t save. She had a Sunday school idea of God. he lets them be miserable and captive in their sins and then say God „loves‟ them because he gives them the resources to live for a time on the earth to carry out this miserable existence in sin God is keeping them in. . rain. faith in God. You are trying to make your god seem better than he really is. lived by her own set of rules and thought scripture was a joke.