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jure sanguinis. The answer is, it reall depends on se!eral factors including how man records ou need to order, which states ou are going through, the price our translator charges and which consulate ou are going through. "umber of records #enerall speaking, the more generations ou ha!e to go back to claim Italian citizenship, the higher the cost. The reason for this, of course, is ou$ll ha!e more people to order records for the further back ou go. The number of records ou are making corrections on can impact this as well. %hen ou request a correction, ou$ll likel need to order and pa for a new cop of the corrected record. &tates'Cities'Counties ou are ordering records from The cost of records and apostilles can !ar greatl b state, cit or count . I$!e seen states charge an where from ()* to (+* per !ital record. &imilarl , apostilles can cost an where from () to (+, each depending on the state. The cost of making corrections also !aries. I wrote about a strateg on collecting records in this article that could help ou keep unnecessar costs down. The Italian consulate -equirements can !ar greatl b consulate which will increase or decrease the cost. .or e/ample, the number of documents the consulate requires be translated or ha!e apostilles for can differ significantl . In addition, some consulates are more understanding when there are minor discrepancies whereas others require e!er thing match across documents. 0a!ing to correct man records can add significantl to the cost. I ha!e not heard of an consulates charging to actuall appl . In addition, most consulates require ou appl in person. The added cost to !isit the consulate in person will !ar based on our pro/imit to the consulate, accommodation needs, mode of transportation and the number of times ou need to !isit the consulate. Translation price Translators !ar in their price. I$!e seen translators charge an where from ()*1(*, per record. &ummar of costs In general ou can e/pect to pa 2 3ital -ecords2 ()*1(+* each "aturalization certificates and paperwork2 (++ 4for "5-5 documents6, (7* 4for 8&CI& certificate plus (+, if ou need to do a search6 Corrections2 (),1(*, per record 5postilles2 ()1(+, each Translations2 ()*1(*, per record Cost to !isit consulate2 !aries 9ostage and miscellaneous2 (+,1(:, Other potential e/penses ;ost people can do all the work and file on their own. In certain situations people ma need to hire outside help to collect records or for legal issues. .or e/ample, if ou are running into problems getting a record from Ital , there are agencies that ha!e relationships with Italian go!ernments and can help for a fee. If ou are running into problems with the consulate accepting our paperwork or want to challenge or get ad!ice on a law, it ma make sense to hire an Italian law er. If ou are ha!ing problems making corrections to our records, ou ma need to hire an 5merican law er. Of course, all of this would add to
&he translated e!er thing on the record from the header to the footnotes at the bottom. I wanted to write a Cliff notes !ersion of it for those just wanting a summar . translating into Italian.the cost.rancisco consulate$s list of translators. Aefore ou choose a translator. Eour Italian1born ascendant$s naturalization certificate. and their turn1around and lead time. Tags Italian translation.&. translating documents. Congratulations on making it this far@ Aefore ou get started on the translation process double1check to make sure all necessar corrections are done. The consulate highl recommends ou use somebod on their list. ou are read to start getting them translated into Italian. please refer to the original article. Eou can also ask other fellow Italian 5mericans who ha!e gone through the process for referrals. call a few of them and ask them some basic questions about their cost and pa ment method.. ). &he was referred to me but was also on the &an .6 #etting -ecords Translated from ?nglish to Italian Italian dual citizenship building in -omeOnce ou ha!e all of our records collected. I ha!e not heard of an consulates requiring naturalization paperwork be translated. Did ou ha!e a good e/perience with a translator and want to recommend them< . If ou are going through an Italian consulate in the 8. list of translators.&.. contact info 4with the translator$s permission of course6 and which consulate$s list the are on in the comments section. I used #abriella ?inaga 4gabriellaCeinagaDatt. 5t the time of this writing she charged between ()*1(+. apostilles do not need to be translated. That article turned out to be longer than originall anticipated. &he did not sign or certif the translation as the consulate states not to do this. 0a!e ou run into an une/pected e/penses in our own journe to claim Italian citizenship< Do ou ha!e ad!ice for others on things ou ha!e learned to keep costs down< Tags cost to get Italian citizenship= price= costs= cost= pa ment= cost for Italian dual citizenship > Categor #athering Documents and -ecords > 9ermalink > Comment 4. The end translation was a simple %ord document that followed the order of the record but had no special formatting. If ou ha!e the original certified !ersion of our . &ince man of the translators do e!er thing electronicall now.&. ou$ll need to ha!e the consulate that ser!ices the jurisdiction where the record was issued certif the record and the translation. including Brecord not found$ letters. 5lso.net6.eel free to lea!e their name. and the record was issued in the 8. It$s also a good idea to check our consulate$s website to !erif which records need to be translated and to confirm the requirements ha!en$t changed. per record or page and I was satisfied with her work. their location is not reall important. translating records. The records that need to be translated will !ar b consulate. ?ach consulate pro!ides a list of translators . ou don$t need an additional certifications on the translations. %e did e!er thing through email. how the work and what ou can e/pect. To get tips and tricks and additional information. translation certifications. translator > Categor Translation> 9ermalink > Comments 4+6 &ummar of "aturalization -ecord -equirements I wrote a detailed article on naturalization requirements here. If ou are going through a consulate in another countr or the record was issued outside of the 8. as a result.
. ou$ll likel need to get a certified cop of the census record issued immediatel after our first 8. Certified census and other records.&. ou ma need to get a statement of no record from the count courts where our relati!e li!ed. The 8&CI& does not issue certified copies 4unless our relati!e is still ali!e and requests a replacement6= therefore. signed b a custodian of records 4ask them to include their title6 and notarized. +. in most cases. District court. 5lso request the send ou a certified custodial agreement'letter 4signed b a registrar of records. 8&CI& > Categor #athering Documents and -ecords > 9ermalink > Comments 476 "aturalization Certificate and -ecords .&. There ma be other records ou can pro!ide as additional proof. such as the 8. 7. Aasicall . sa )G)*. with the appropriate letter head. Tags Italian citizenship naturalization. "5-5. . The statement of no record should be certified.&. If ou don$t ha!e the original. ship passenger lists. &upporting records from state or count courts. "ote2 a certified cop differs from a regular cop in that all the records are affi/ed b a red ribbon with a gold seal. along with the certificate. ou$ll want to get a cop of the )G+.ake sure to double1check with our consulate to confirm this is sufficient. request the send ou a statement of no record that lists the search criteria the used. &ome counties and states ha!e released all of their naturalization records to local historical societies or archi!es offices. summar . born ascendant was born will help in this situation. If there are are possible spelling !ariations for our relati!e$s name.or e/ample. in. . born ascendant was born from the "5-5. ou will likel need to get additional certified records 4listed below6 as proof. ou should be able to get certified copies. The "5-5 has records for naturalizations issued b federal courts. and has a few records for naturalizations issued b count and state courts. &upporting records from the "ational 5rchi!es and -ecords 5dministration 4"5-56. this ma be sufficient to pro!e naturalization. but does ha!e supporting records such as the petition for naturalization and the oath. &upporting records from state or count historical societies or archi!e offices. etc. should be sufficient. If our relati!e did not naturalize. Eou can request the "5-5 send ou certified copies. this.ascendants naturalization certificate and there are no major discrepancies between this and our ascendant$s other records. If there are discrepancies ou are concerned about or ou are unable to track down records from the abo!e organizations. If ou are able to get a certified cop from a courthouse. ou can order the certificate from the 8nited &tates Citizenship and Immigration &er!ices 48&CI&6. *. The "5-5 does not ha!e copies of the certificates themsel!es. If the abo!e organizations cannot find the naturalization record for our ascendant. census which lists both of them. if ou are requesting citizenship through our great grandfather1Fgrandfather where our great grandfather was born in Ital and our grandfather was born in the 8. If this happened to our relati!es records. naturalization proof. otherwise ou$ll need to go to the count or state courthouse where the naturalization took place 4or where our ancestor li!ed6. be sure to let the organization know for their search. "ote2 Eou do not need an apostille or translations done on an naturalization paperwork including Brecord not found$ letters.or naturalizations that were issued b a state or count court. ou$ll need to go to the courthouse that issued it to get a certified cop . :. &tatement of B"o -ecord$ from the abo!e organizations. such as %orld %ar I and %orld %ar II registration records. with appropriate letter head and notarization6 stating that the count or state released the naturalization documents to them. H.&. this and the certificate should be enough proof. If ou are able to get certified records from the "5-5 and there are no major discrepancies between this and our ascendants other records. an record that still shows our Italian born ascendant as an Italian citizen after our 8. %hen the consulate requests records Bwith the red ribbon$ this is what the are referring to.
ou cannot get a certified.H. Otherwise. it can take quite awhile. the data contained in the naturalization record ma help fill some of the gaps. ou$ll need to submit a search request before ou can request the actual certificate.inall .reedom of Information 5ct form which can be found here. If ou end up needing to do a search request. I wrote a summar of the requirements mentioned in this article here for those just wanting a high le!el o!er!iew of what records the will need to collect. If the do find the record. In this case. 5n original naturalization certificate is the onl record the Italian consulate will return to ou. . 5sk them include an Jdeclaration of intentionK or Jpetition for naturalizationK records in their search. &econd. 5bout a month or so before recei!ing it.irst. If the issue a J-ecord "ot . If the naturalization was issued prior to )G. ou can order the certificate online or !ia mail. otherwise ou$ll likel need to send the 8&CI& their death certificate. The 8nited &tates Citizenship and Immigration &er!ices 48&CI&6 has a record of all naturalization certificates 4also called C1. If ou know our relati!e did not get naturalized or the cannot find the record. Definitel double1check with our consulate though just to confirm the don$t need an thing else. Once ou ha!e the certificate number. make sure ou include alternate spellings of names and nick names as well as possible birth dates the ma ha!e used. submit a separate request for them to send ou the record using the instructions the pro!ide to ou. 9rior to submitting our request. ou ma need to ha!e them submit a request. true cop from the 8&CI& 4unless our relati!e is still ali!e and requests it6 therefore ou will also likel need to request certified backup documentation from one of the other organizations that holds naturalization records as outlined below. It took them about : months to send m great grandfather$s naturalization certificate from the time I submitted the request. .iles6 issued after )G. It is a good idea to get this confirmation before going through the e/pense and trouble of collecting all of the other required records. consider tr ing to get records through one of the other organizations listed below first as the will t picall include this number on the records the send ou. 5lso.oundK because the either . the include the date range of records 4based on when the were submitted6 the are currentl working on at the bottom of their website. If the naturalization certificate was issued on or before 5pril ). do a little searching online to see if ou can find our ancestors naturalization inde/. I recei!ed an email letting me know the had m request. If it was issued after 5pril ). ou can request a cop of the naturalization certificate from the 8&CI& genealog program. If ou are requesting the certificate from the genealog program. if ou do not currentl ha!e the naturalization certificate number 4which is t picall I digits long6 on other documentation. There is a fee for this ser!ice and it can take se!eral weeks to get this information so finding this number can sa!e quite a bit of time and e/pense. sometimes months. proof that our relati!e was not naturalized before their kin was born is one of the ke criteria the Italian consulate will look for. ou can ask them to send ou a statement of no record b following the instructions found here.One of the first records ou will want to get is our Italian1born ascendant$s naturalization record for se!eral reasons. it is good to get the ball rolling sooner than later. This article contains tips and tricks and additional information that ou ma find helpful. the naturalization record can contain a lot of information about our relati!e. ou$ll likel need to go to the local court which issued it. )G*+. If ou can$t find this number. depending on where and when it was issued. )G*+. If our relati!e is still ali!e and the do not ha!e their naturalization certificate. If ou ha!e information ou are missing which ou need to be able to request other records. this will likel be good enough and ou shouldn$t need to go through the steps outlined below. as I wrote about here. ou$ll need to request the certificate using the . to get the record. If ou ha!e our Italian1born ascendants original certificate and there are no major discrepancies between that and their other records.H.
The "5-5 will occasionall ha!e a few count and state records as well. it should include the court it was issued in. The cost for these through the "5-5 was (++. If the records were sent to a historical societ . an 5ffada!it of %itness and the Oath of 5llegiance. count or state court. If it was issued at a 8.or e/ample. 5fter sending m initial request to the boston. ship manifests.go! email bo/. if our first 8& born relati!e was born in )G)*. at the time of this writing. if ou don$t know how our ancestors name was spelled on the naturalization certificate.*. if the "5-5 or count do not ha!e the record. request a certified )G+.&.go!'locations'. The "5-5 does not ha!e the actual naturalization certificates. The packet was bound with a red ribbon and had a gold seal holding it in place certif ing it.&.archi!es. District Court or District Court of J/K count or state. 4for alien6 in the status column. District Court. If ou ha!e a cop of the naturalization certificate or were able to find the inde/ file online.or e/ample. . If an of the organizations cannot find the record. there are multiple other steps the Italian consulate requires ou go through which I wrote about in the last paragraph here. courthouses and count or state archi!e offices or historical societies. 8. signed b a custodian of records 4ask them to include their title or include a statement that the ha!e access to the register of naturalizations6.&. Eou should be able to find an electronic cop online first making the search quicker and easier for the "5-5.go!6. This should list both our Italian born relati!e and 8& born relati!e and indicate our Italian1born relati!e was still an Italian citizen b showing an al. Contact the one that ser!es the location where the naturalization record was issued. and !oter list records. If ou do not know where the naturalization record was issued or who issued it. I did not hear back for + weeks so I contacted them. free of charge. asking one of the "ational 5rchi!es offices to do a search is a good place to start. If the naturalization was issued b a municipal. There is no cost for the "5-5 to do a search and let ou know if the ha!e an records. I went through the "5-5 for m great grandfather$s naturalization record and found their customer ser!ice to be outstanding and the turn around to be quick. that ser!e different regions. 5s with other search requests. The organization ou request them through will depend on where and when the naturalization certificate was issued. There are three primar organization t pes outside of the 8&CI& that ma hold naturalization records2 "ational 5rchi!es and -ecords 5dministration 4"5-56. 5lso. . . . Other records that can help pro!ide proof that our Italian born ascendant was still an Italian citizen when our 8. . make sure to request an records be certified. with appropriate letterhead and notarization to include in the packet ou gi!e to the consulate. The were apologetic and I recei!ed a cop of the naturalization record within a week. ou can go through the "5-5. 5s with the "5-5. with appropriate letter head and notarization6 stating that the count or state released the naturalization documents to them. . be sure to include multiple spelling !ariations if applicable. the 9etition for "aturalization.archi!esDnara. request the also send ou a custodial agreement or letter 4signed b a registrar of records. ou ma need to get a certified cop of the most recent census record after our first 8&1born relati!es was born from the "5-5. the count or state archi!e office or historical societ . There are satellite "ational 5rchi!es offices scattered throughout the 8.could not find the record or our relati!e was ne!er naturalized. in some cases. ou will probabl need to go to the appropriate court or.archi!esDnara. a Certificate of No alt . census listing them. The "5-5 takes requests !ia email 4usuall Lcit nameM.&. 5 listing of all of the "ational 5rchi!es offices with a link to their respecti!e websites with contact information can be found here2 http2''www.ake sure ou let them know the different name !ariations the record could be under.ake sure ou request a certified cop . The certificate number needed for the 8&CI& is in the Oath of 5llegiance section. packet included2 a Certificate of 5rri!al. born ascendant was born include %orld %ar I and %orld %ar II registrations. The cost of this along with additional information can be found on the 8&CI& website. ou will want to request a statement of no record.
org and 5ncestr . don$t be sh about picking up the phone and calling these organizations if their website is not clear or ou ha!e questions. some states ha!e special requirements for a record to be eligible for apostille which ou ma need to follow when requesting the record. the 0awaii &tate Department of 0ealth will forward the !ital record to the &ecretar of &tate$s office for apostille if ou specif this in our original request and send two checks 4one for the record and one for the apostille6. &ome consulates. Tags application.g. walk1in 3& mail1in6 but is usuall around )1+ da s to up to 7 weeks 4plus mailing time6. To sa!e some time. 8&CI& > Categor #athering Documents and -ecords > 9ermalink > Comment 4)6 #etting -ecords 5postilled Eou$!e collected all of the required certified !ital records. include the petition number in the bod of our email to the "5-5. naturalization certificate. signing and notarizing a standard sealed form called an apostille. now how do ou get Ital to recognize them as certified< . The apostille is then stapled to the original record. Depending on the consulate. The two websites where I ha!e found them for m relati!es are2 . Turnaround and processing times will !ar b state and the method b which ou request the apostille 4e. Others will require apostilles for all records e/cept those pertaining to naturalization. Once ou get a record apostilled. I ha!e found most of the people I ha!e spoken with want to help and seem to enjo this part of their job. "5-5.com is subscription based. c file. In addition. Eou can get additional information on the cost and the process b going to that state$s &ecretar of &tate$s website. ourself and our minor children 4if applicable6. 5ncestr . Aefore ou send the records off for apostille. This will help them locate the record quickl . one thing which will make requesting a naturalization record easier is if ou can find a cop of the naturalization record inde/ online. The results should turn up the e/act page on the state$s website that has this information. %hen ou make our request. oath.com. apostilles are pro!ided b the &ecretar of &tate$s office for the state that issued the original certified record. Ital was a signator of the 0ague Con!ention 45O5 J0ague Treat K6 as was the 8. In a nutshell. it is important that the apostille not be remo!ed or detached otherwise it will be in!alidated. The cost will !ar greatl b state from () 40awaii6 to (+. &ome states allow ou to request the apostille at the same time ou request the record which will sa!e time. 5lso. ou$ll need to go through "ew Eork$s &ecretar 45O5 Department6 of &tate$s office. such as &an . naturalization petition.ost of the time.amil &earch. freedom of information act.5s mentioned earlier. check the &ecretar of &tate$s website to find out what the apostille process is prior to sending in our request.or e/ample. this will likel include all records directl pertaining to the people in the Italian lineage ou are claiming citizenship through.ortunatel for us. howe!er.&. t pe in the state$s name followed b the word JapostilleK into #oogle. onl require apostille$s for our records and those of our minor children. . it offers a free two week trial. . 5s recommended in a pre!ious post.rancisco. 4California6 and e!er where in between. make sure to check the records for discrepancies and be aware of which discrepancies our consulate will accept and which need to be corrected. If ou find this for our Italian relati!e. &tandard disclaimer2 It is alwa s a good idea to check the requirements of our specific consulate. . cit or count et. this agreement specifies that a competent authorit 4as designated in the 0ague Con!ention6 can certif the authenticit of a document b filling out. local court or archi!es office and attach a cop of the inde/.amil &earch is free. . naturalization record. This wa if an . The consulate occasionall changes the requirements and there ma be !ariances between the consulates. at the time of this writing. if ou were born in the &tate of "ew Eork and the &tate of "ew Eork issued our birth certificate. &ignatories of the 0ague Con!ention will then accept the document as a legitimate and legal record. if ou still ha!en$t requested the records from the state. make sure to specif that the apostille is for Ital .or e/ample.
K If it is blank or shows that the naturalized. Depending on how far back in our ancestr ou ha!e to go. some consulates require this before the will send ou a list of the documents the require. ou don$t want to go through the time and e/pense to gather the necessar documents onl to find out down the road that ou aren$t eligible. If ou are going farther back. +. born Italian 5merican relati!e was born. Is there an thing else ou would like to know about the apostille process< %hat has been our e/perience with the apostille process< %as it prett smooth for ou or did ou run into glitches< Tags apostille. "ow is also a good time to send an email to our Italian consulate to reconfirm that ou are indeed eligible.&.corrections need to be made.or e/ample. PThe 8. !ital record apostille. If our first 8. here are the basic steps required for claiming our Italian Citizenship2 ).)+. apostille marriage certificate. The cost and process will !ar greatl b countr . &ecretar of &tate. On a side note. . It$s better to send a quick email to be certain ou aren$t o!erlooking something and for peace of mind.&. born Italian 5merican relati!e was born before )G:. census. Nook for future posts where I will write about getting documents from other countries in greater detail. start gathering online documents and recording basic information including names and dates. 5postille seal. ou$ll apostille the corrected document. birth certificate apostille. in which m great grandfather was still listed as Jal. hague con!ention. born relati!e was born. ou will need to get birth and marriage certificates for all of our relati!es. . this could be as simple as asking a li!ing relati!e if the basic criteria were met. chances are ou$ll need to do a bit of research. In general.&.K under the citizenship column for our Italian relati!e. 5postilles do not need to be translated into Italian. The site is a free resource and includes 8. censuses and naturalization records. If ou see an Jal.&. #ather basic information and reconfirm eligiblit Once ou ha!e our initial confirmation. .&. 9reliminar in!estigation and confirmation of eligibilit . in )G)* so i checked the )G+. what is apostille > Categor 5postille> 9ermalink > Comments 4:6 ). m grandfather was born in the 8. a list of the the member nations of the 0ague Conference can be found here. 5postille cost. to the public et. &teps for Obtaining Italian Citizenship &tarting from the beginning. This con!ention is officiall titled JCon!ention of * October )GH) 5bolishing the -equirement of Negalisation of . one of the easiest and first things to do is check the first 8. 7.&. #ather the required documents Eou can get a list of the required !ital records and documents on each Italian consulates website or b emailing them.&. go!ernment just released the )G:. +. if ou need to request a certified record from another countr . 5postille certification.org is a good place to start our search. apostilled. census released after our first 8. apostilles.oreign 9ublic DocumentsK. Click on the countr to find out if the are a member of the 0ague Con!ention that pertains to apostilles.amil &earch. census on 5pril +. born relati!e was born. ou$ll need to dig in further to find out the date the naturalized to determine if it was before or after our first 8. this is a !er good indication the hadn$t naturalized et when our 8. In fact.P. 9lus. It hasn$t released an censuses after )G:.&.
while still others require their spouses records also be translated. 5ll names. :. ou will also need our di!orce decree and. ou ma also need di!orce decrees for our Italian side relati!es who di!orced. &ometimes. such as around the time ou are read to send off our documents for 5postille certification. Other consulates onl require the records pertaining to the Italian side ou are getting citizenship through. keep in mind some consulates ma not be able to schedule ou in for G months or more so ou ma want to actuall schedule the appointment earlier in the process. If there are discrepancies in our relati!e$s records. &ome consulates also require these records for their spouses.ill out application and required paperwork ?ach consulate has application paperwork ou must fill out. ou will need to meticulousl check all of the documents to make sure the information matches. Q. dollars or more.ake an appointment with our Italian consulate Aefore ou make our appointment. Aefore ou go through the trouble of getting the documents corrected. Confirm names. If ou are di!orced. 5ll of the documents on the Italian side will need to be certified. &ome consulates. Check with the requirements of our Italian consulate. Obtain 5postille certification Once ou ha!e all of our documents gathered and corrections made.&. ou ma need death certificates for our Italian relati!es and naturalization records 4or statement of no record6 for our Italian born relati!e. such as there is a middle initial in one document and not the other or the Italian document lists the name as 3incenzo and the 8. dates and locations on our records and those of our minor children need to match e/actl . ou ma also need to correct them.inor discrepancies will not be accepted because these are the records that get registered in Ital . The Italian consulates websites pro!ide links to people who can do this for ou and the price can !ar from ()* per page to (*. depending on the consulate. This includes information such as our address and contact information as well as last known li!ing locations for ourself and our Italian . document lists it as 3incent. including Ital and the 8. Their website ma list the steps required to make corrections. dates and places. if the discrepanc is minor. The certificate is stapled to each document to !erif that the document is a legitimate. ou will be able to work directl with the !ital records office for the state or cit that issued the document to make corrections to !ital records. 5lso. such as the &an .&. H. on which records will require an apostille. If it doesn$t. particularl names. Translate documents into Italian &ome documents will need to be translated into Italian. onl requires our records and those of our minor children be translated. I. 5n 5postille is an international certificate recognized b countries who signed the 5postille treat . it is a good idea to confirm with them through email if the documents ou ha!e gathered will meet their requirements and if there are an additional documents ou need to gather. email or call the !ital records office. certified cop . . I wrote about a strateg for obtaining the needed records here. . ou$ll need to send them in for 5postille certification. . Check with our Italian consulate to determine which records require translation.starting with the Italian born relati!e. &ome consulates allow photo copies for the documents related to their spouses. In addition. places and dates match on all documents Once ou ha!e gathered all of the documents. long1form copies. *. email our Italian consulate to see if the discrepancies are acceptable. the consulate ma be oka with this. In most cases.rancisco consulate.
. grandparents. ignore the great grandparent section and skip down to the grandparent section on down. followed b marriage. "ow is a good time to put our records in order too. great grandfather. -emember. including an o!er!iew of the 5postille. ou$ll be at the summit looking back on our journe with a sense of pride. jure sanguinis. Italian citizenship.ost consulates ha!e these forms on their respecti!e websites. . To find out more about the steps required for Italian citizenship.or e/ample. great grandparents. . the Italian relati!e is the person in our lineage ou will be using to claim our Italian citizenship. if ou are claiming Italian citizenship through our grandfather who was born in Ital . . If ou are just starting out. followed b their spouses paperwork. ou$ll need to gather the additional documentation and schedule a new appointment. changing dates. wrong dates.or the purposes of this list. 9a close attention to e!er thing the consulate requires and be sure to fill e!er thing out se!eral weeks before our appointment so there are no surprises. This makes it eas for ou to make sure ou ha!e e!er thing in order and for the consulate to find and confirm the needed records. -e!iew and final preparation One or two weeks before our appointment. go here. G. ).ollow1up 5fter our appointment. Do not get discouraged or let obstacles stop ou from mo!ing forward. grouped b person. In addition to the application paperwork. grandfather. &tart with our most recent Italian born relati!e and go down the list. ?!erest. be prepared for the possibilit that the Italian consulate ma ask ou for additional documentation.or e/ample. double1check e!er thing once again against the list of requirements from our consulate. The important part is to stick with it and make a little bit of progress on a consistent basis. . It also includes forms confirming that ou or our Italian relati!es ne!er renounced Italian citizenship. . research them or ask others who ha!e gone through the process. wrong names > Categor &tarting Out > 9ermalink > Comments 476 -ecords -equired to Claim Italian Citizenship In order to claim Italian citizenship. Oeep with it and. In this case. making corrections.an consulates request ou put the paperwork in chronological order.t. changing names. there are certain records the Italian consulate requires ou pro!ide them to pro!e our lineage. "ote2 the Italian consulate will keep all of these documents. going through the steps required to claim our Italian citizenship ma seem like climbing . there is a wa around the obstacles if ou think through them. . put our oldest relati!e$s birth certificate. our Italian citizenship in hand@ Tags apostille. "ote2 certified !ital records must be long form and include the cit of birth and not just the count . . an relati!es born before )G:Q could onl transmit citizenship through their male ancestors as described in this earlier post. Italian translation. Eour paperwork and those of our minor children would then be on top. Italian 5merican. naturalization and death certificates on the bottom.. some consulates require ou include a list of discrepancies ou were able to find across records. !ital records. so do not sign them when ou fill them out. Aelow is the list of documents and !ital records ou will need to present to the Italian consulate. before ou know it.relati!es.an of these forms must be signed in front of a witness at the Italian consulate. Come up with a plan of attack and set small goals such as sending off for certain number of documents per month. often times. It has taken people a range from man months to se!eral ears to go through all of the steps and.
Italian translation6 4In the case of a pre!ious di!orce. the requirements for apostilles and translations for the other records !ar b consulates with some not requiring them. Italian translation6 5dult children o!er )Q will need to appl for Italian citizenship themsel!es P"ote2 some consulates also require a death certificate for our Italian lineage ancestors as applicable.arriage certificate 4if applicable6 4certified. Italian translation6 .Italian great grandparent Airth certificate . man requiring them for just the Italian lineage side and a few requiring them for all records including those of the spouses.arriage certificate 9arent spouse Airth certificate Eou Airth certificate 4certified. apostilled. apostilled. apostilled. . 5ll consulates require our records and those of our minor children be apostilled and translated= howe!er.arriage certificate #reat grandparent spouse Airth certificate Italian grandparent Airth certificate .arriage application 4onl required if our marriage certificate is missing information such as our date and place of birth6 4certified.arriage certificate #randparent spouse Airth certificate 4photocop 6 Italian parent Airth certificate . Italian translation6 . ou must also include a Jcertificate of no appealK6 Death record of spouse if widowed Eour spouse 4if applicable6 Airth certificate Eour minor children 4under the age of )Q6 Airth certificate4s6 4certified. apostilled. apostilled. Italian translation6 Di!orce decree of all pre!ious marriages 4if applicable6 4certified.
death certificate. she is the one that needs to sign the affida!it. In m case. the birth date on m great grandfather$s Italian birth certificate was a few da s off from the birth date on his 5merican records. naturalization. Correcting e!er thing at once will sa!e ou time and mone . make sure to let them know ou will need the corrected document in long form which must include the cit and not just the count of where the e!ent took place. Italian citizenship. &ome records. . .ake sure to check the posted requirements of our specific consulate regularl and. Tags apostille.or e/ample. first names and e!en minor misspellings in the last names. marriage certificate. .or e/ample. &ince m mom is the ne/t closest li!ing relati!e. If ou are in a situation where ou cannot amend the record. I emailed the Italian consulate and the indicated that if his certified naturalization papers 4declaration of intent and application for naturalization which I got from the "ational 5rchi!es and -ecords 5dministration . In an case. before ou begin another major phase such as getting translations and apostilles. the &an . The can often pro!ide information on what ou need to do and time sa!ing tips that are not alwa s listed on their website. cannot be easil amended. RR . I didn$t do this at first and ended up getting apostilles I didn$t need after m consulate updated the requirements for the Italian ancestor$s records. di!orce decree. 9roof ma include other certified !ital records and certified naturalization certificates.aking Corrections to -ecords One of the requirements of the Italian consulate is that all names. ou ma need to present proof of the death and the ne/t closest ancestor down the line will likel need to sign the affida!it.ost states ha!e a process to amend records. If ou are making corrections on records for an bod but ourself and the person is still ali!e. including his naturalization certificate. make sure ou ha!e compared all records to confirm there are no further discrepancies ou need to correct. &ome consulates are more particular and require the records match e/actl while others aren$t as concerned about minor discrepancies such as dates that are a few da s off. The process usuall requires ou pro!ide some proof of what ou are tr ing to correct. this is usuall preferable for the reasons listed in this article. our spouse and our children must match e/actl across all records including birth and marriage certificates. then fill out a form and sign an affida!it in front of a notar if ou can$t go into the office in person. it is best to write to our Italian consulate to find out what ou will need to pro!ide. Aefore ou request a change to an record. birth certificate. the will likel need to be the ones who sign the affida!it in front of a notar . ou$ll need to present a certified cop of our Italian born ancestor$s naturalization records. in particular.In addition. In states where ou ha!e the option to work with a local cit or count clerk$s office. The contact information can usuall be found on their website although ou ma need to dig around for it. . The will periodicall update requirements. !ital records > Categor #athering Documents and -ecords > 9ermalink > Comments 4+6 . places and dates must match across all records. dates and places for ou. when ou speak with them. If the person is deceased. I needed to add m great grandfather$s birth date to his death certificate. The information can often be found on the state$s !ital records website or the count or cit clerk$s office website of where the document was issued.rancisco consulate will accept minor discrepancies in our ancestors records but all of the names. it is a good idea to call and talk with a representati!e to find out what the process to amend a record is. such as the naturalization certificate. 5lso. I$!e worked with three states across the countr to make corrections on !arious records and this has been the process with each state.ortunatel I checked before sending them off for translation which sa!ed quite a bit of time and e/pense. This post contains additional information on obtaining naturalization records.
To a!oid lost time. Ital has regions. . tr posting a request for help on this forum2 . changing birth certificate. world war I'II registration documents. The !ar on completeness. sure enough.amil &earch. . discrepancies in dates. sometimes census records and naturalization records. %hat corrections ha!e ou had to make on our records< %hat was our e/perience in getting this done< Tags amending records. pa special attention to the notes in the ship manifests. there is a commune with the same name. listed his town of birth as -occapalumba.or e/ample. .ind the contact information for the commune online. changing death certificate.&. escalate to a higher le!el or tr a different office 4e. In man pro!inces. changing marriage certificate. In m situation. the region of &icil includes the pro!ince of 9alermo which has the commune 4town6 of 9alermo within it. pro!inces and communes in Ital 4 ou can drill down starting with the region62 http2''www.htm. Eou can usuall determine this from online records including ship manifests. It wasn$t until I found the birth records for 9alermo online and did not find him listed that I started to question this. . -egions are akin to states in the 8.sersale. I started to scrutinize the ship manifests and found one for m great grandmother where the notes indicated she went to !isit her mother1in1law in -occapalumba. Other consulates ma require different proof. pro!inces and communes. If ou cannot find the contact information. m great grandmother. If ou run into problems on getting information on how to amend a !ital record. it is a good idea to attempt to confirm ou ha!e the right location of where the e!ent took place . all of the ship manifests and documents I found online on m great grandfather listed 9alermo as his place of birth. It is first important to understand how geographic areas are organized in Ital . the state if ou are working with a local office6.&. This website has a list of the !arious communes that ha!e some le!el of records online2 http2''www. names donSt match > Categor . The often indicate where the are coming from. discrepancies.com' 0ere are the basic steps ou will need to follow when requesting records from Ital .aking Corrections > 9ermalink > Comments 4H6 -equesting -ecords from Ital -equesting records such as birth certificates from Ital is a prett straight forward process if ou know the name of the commune where the e!ent took place. 5ncestr . I ordered m great grandfathers naturalization application from the "ational 5rchi!es office which.org'comunes. 7. 9eople ha!e digitized birth and marriage records for se!eral communes and loaded them online. %hether through an affida!it or a court order there is !er likel an a!enue to be able to change a record and it is just a matter of finding the right person who can help.org 4free6. I was certain this meant he was born in the commune of 9alermo. court 4not count or state6 I highl recommend ordering their naturalization application from the "ational 5rchi!es office. . correcting records. 6 +. This site lists all of the regions.4"5-566 accuratel included his spouses name and correctl listed his children this would probabl be sufficient. pro!inces are similar to counties or parishes and communes are comparati!e to towns or cities. 4On an aside2 the naturalization application contained an arra of information including information about his wife.g. This is often as eas as #oogling the name of it. This assumes ou ha!e the Italian name of the person ou are requesting the documents for as well as the date 4at least a reasonable date range6 on when the e!ent occurred 2 ). 8ltimatel .com 4paid but 4at the time of this writing6 offers free + week trial6 and ?llisIsland. 5lso.ake sure ou know the actual name of the commune where the e!ent took place. If ou are missing information but know our ancestor got naturalized in a 8. 9ersistence is the ke here.org 4ob!iousl onl includes ships that arri!ed through ?llis Island6 are good sites to help with this. which is a small commune in the pro!ince of 9alermo.. changing naturalization certificate. e/perience brings me to m ne/t recommended step.ital worldclub.
pro!ince. There are man !er knowledgeable people on this forum that are more than willing to help. Ital .http2''www. ou can ask them to bill ou if there is a cost.angelfire. .&. da s send a follow1up letter. 5s alwa s. . The site I linked to abo!e includes a template for an effecti!e follow1up letter. :.ost documents from Ital are free= howe!er. requesting birth certificate from Ital > Categor #athering Documents and -ecords > 9ermalink > Comment 4)6 &trateg for Collecting -equired -ecords I wrote about the records required b the Italian consulate to pro!e our Italian citizenship here. records. Eour e/perience and turn around will !ar b commune. If ou do run into a situation where ou are simpl not getting a response from the commune.html Eou can augment using #oogle$s translator tool2 http2''translate. or in Jestratto per riassuntoK 4showing his Lor herM father$s and mother$s namesK.a/ or send the letter to the commune. but I would not recommend including more than this. &ome are quick to respond while others ma require prodding.an people ha!e had good luck with simpl fa/ing the letter to commune and recei!ing the requested documents within weeks. do our due diligence in checking out the compan before hiring them. H. Italian template. International mail agencies require the actual postage amount be displa ed on the stamp.com' 4%arning2 this tool does a good job of translating words. 5ccording to this site. Eou can include a few dollars for postage in the letter if ou like. In fact.. da s. I$!e learned some !aluable tips. b law. man post offices in the 8. The Italian consulate states2 Jrequest a birth certificate in Jformato internazionaleK. but not sentences where translations are not literal. make sure ou use stamps that ha!e the dollar amount on the front of them. 5ddress the letter in this format2 CO. The template follow1up letter refers to this law. the commune is supposed to send a response within 7. The record must include the names of their mother and father so make sure to include this in the letter. this website has some good templates as a starting point2 http2''www. . . ou ma consider hiring someone.8"? DI 8fficio 5nagrafe T &tato Ci!ile 4zip code6 4Cit 6 4pro!ince of6 IT5NE Include a self addressed en!elope for their con!enience= howe!er.com'forum' . I would not bother with including an International -epl Coupon as some other websites recommend. This requires the sender to actuall make a trip to their post office to redeem it and this incon!enience is often more trouble than it is worth.google.italiangenealog . 5s a part of m journe in collecting the necessar records through H different states and talking with others who ha!e gone through the process. If ou don$t know Italian. Don$t use the fore!er stamps. tricks and strategies I wanted to share. If ou send a letter. %rite the request letter in Italian.6 *. If ou ha!en$t heard back in 7. ha!e stopped selling these because the are not seen as cost effecti!e for the recipient so people are simpl not bu ing them. Italian commune records.com'ok7'pearlsofwisdom'Da!idsCformCletters. commune. There are companies ou can find online who ha!e connections to Ital and will get the document for ou for around (*. Auona fortuna@ Tags birth certificate.
I did not know m great grandmother$s maiden name. it$s a good idea to go ahead and request the records from Ital . m relati!e$s last name starts with a JDeK but on one record it was misspelled to start with a JDiK. when it was the onl wa I could get a long form or when it was the onl option 4such as with the state of 0awaii6. This can usuall be found through the state$s &ecretar of &tate site. I was able to find it through m grandfather$s birth certificate. most of the time it is better to go to the local cit or count !ital records or clerk$s office where the e!ent took place rather than the state. The will not accept short form records. 9lus. write separate checks for each record ou are requesting in case the cannot find one of the records. find out what the 5postille process for that state is.One of the first documents ou should collect is a certified cop of the naturalization record for our Italian relati!e. The census record is not enough as the are often not accurate. . this is often oka as the will do a search if ou ha!e ball park information 4for e/ample. If ou don$t ha!e all of the information the are requesting. include that in the request. The ne/t set of records ou should consider collecting are those that pro!ide missing information ou were not able to find in our research. some ha!e reported long dela s in getting this document from the 8&CI&. 5 couple of sites that ma help ou with this 4especiall if ou don$t speak Italian6 can be found here and here. count or state. 5s a result. . a date range6. 5lso. 5s soon as ou ha!e our Italian relati!e$s birth name and the date and town in Ital where the e!ent took place. man offices request ou fill out an application and send a self addressed stamped en!elope 4&5&?6.or e/ample. Nong form records ha!e more information but mainl the include the cit and not just the count where the e!ent took place. In addition. if our relati!e$s name can be spelled differentl . %hen ou know the name of the town where the e!ent took place. the Italian consulate requires the records be in long form.e/ico6 onl issues short forms unless ou pro!ide documentation !erif ing a long form is required. .or e/ample. This is one of the ke records for pro!ing our eligibilit and ou don$t want to go through the time and e/pense of collecting all of our other documents onl to find out ou aren$t eligible. On a related note.or e/ample. I$!e gone through the state when I didn$t know the town where the e!ent took place. . In some states ou can get the 5postille at the same time ou request the !ital record. make sure ou follow the instructions on the respecti!e 3ital -ecords or Clerk$s office website and pro!ide e!er thing the request. I spoke with personnel in quite a few offices and found e!er one I talked with to be accessible. If ou ha!e an questions. It is often much less e/pensi!e and the local office is more likel to return our check if the cannot find the record. the office could not find the record the first time around. 9rior to submitting our request for !ital records through the cit . &peaking of the long form. friendl and helpful. %hen requesting the records. &ome require ou also submit a cop of our ID and other proof. do not hesitate to call or email the 3ital -ecords or Clerk$s office. ou want to make sure ou know if there is something specific ou need to request from the 3ital -ecords office to make sure the record can be apostilled. One state I requested records from 4"ew .
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