Ethiopia - Ethiopian National Association of the Deafblind Mike Walsh Flight4Sight Interview 2/24/14 Respondent: You want to only

chat, yeah? All right. Interviewer: What's that? Respondent: You want only to record the director? Interviewer: Yeah. I guess whatever, so I remember stuff too and I might write about it. Respondent: Okay, okay. Only you want voices, yeah? Not picture? No picture, yeah? Only voices? Interviewer: Yeah. No, I do pictures too, yeah, if you want, but that's okay. Respondent: Okay, okay. Interviewer: Yeah. Just kind of recording what goes on and I don't know Respondent: Okay. [Foreign language 00:00:30] Interviewer: She's translating? Respondent: Yeah, she's translating. She's [inaudible 00:00:41]. [Foreign language 00:00:42] Respondent: Now, you told her that you came from Flight4Sight. Interviewer: Yeah, so it's a campaign. Respondent: Would you please brief us a little bit Interviewer: Yeah. Respondent: if it's an organization, where it's what it's doing now, where it's doing its work, something like that. Please can you give us Interviewer: Yeah, yeah. This is just kind of my thing. I personally decided, like I'm losing my sight I'm losing my sight. Right now it's pigmentosa usher syndrome and so I was kind yeah, so I'm kind of going public about it. Then yeah, I'm going around the world sort of to see the sites before I can't see them any more. Respondent: Okay. Interviewer: I'm bringing awareness to that, like that lifestyle. Using social media in a fun way like that you can choose where I go, gaging people so as and I take pictures and stuff. I took a fun picture the other day in Abu Dhabi; me with the king. I'm kind of introducing people to this cane that I'm going to be using all the time and I just started using it last year. [Foreign language 00:01:58] Interviewer: Oh, sorry. Should I just slow down or? Respondent: Yeah, yeah. She has to constantly Interviewer: Yeah. [Foreign language 00:02:03] Respondent: So you have not come in here on behalf of any organization? Just

Interviewer: Really no. It's just my own little campaign but I kind of see it trailing into something so like to help people that are losing their sight to go places. I'm like the first one; I'm the guinea pig. Are you familiar with Make A Wish Foundation? Respondent: Which foundation? Interviewer: Make A Wish Foundation? Respondent: Make A Wish Foundation? Interviewer: Yeah. Are you familiar with that or? Respondent: No. [Foreign language 00:02:51] Interviewer: It's kind of it's for dying people that they have their final wish of something to do. It's usually for kids and stuff. I don't know, it's something that's kind of in the back of my mind right now. [Foreign language 00:03:03] Interviewer: Yeah, that I'll go and find people that are losing their sight and will help them go somewhere, fly somewhere and see something beautiful before they lose their sights in different conditions. Like my condition right now is pigmentosa. Respondent: Yeah, it's progressive, yeah? Loss of your sight is progressive, yeah? Interviewer: Progressive, yeah. Degenerating [inaudible 00:03:29]. It's kind of like that's in the back of my mind. It's something that I can do with it; raise money and do all sorts of stuff or someone can just take it on. Yeah, right now it's just right now it's just me going around the world and seeing the sights and also meeting people in organizations like this and learning also trying to learn much as I can myself to I kind of went it very passive like having the condition because I've had it all my life. I have usher syndromes of the hearing problem too. Respondent: Yeah, I see. [Foreign language 00:04:06] Respondent: Yeah. Okay, I think she has some question for you. Interviewer: Okay. Respondent: Okay. Possible? Interviewer: Yeah. Shoot. [Foreign language 00:04:43] Speaker 1: She want to ask you where do you find [crosstalk 00:05:58]. Where do you find our addresses she ask you? Interviewer: Where do I find ? Speaker 1: Your address our addresses. Interviewer: Where do I find you guys? Respondent: Yeah, address, address. Interviewer: Oh. Respondent: Like telephone address, email address.

Interviewer: Oh, my information? Yeah, I have my Facebook page, I can send give that to you, whatever you want, yeah. Respondent: No, no. She's asking you where did you get our addresses; email address, telephone address. Interviewer: Oh. My friend works for USAID. Respondent: USAID? Interviewer: USAID, yes. Respondent: Okay. [Foreign language 00:06:33] Interviewer: Works at the U.S Embassy, the USAID. Respondent: U.S Embassy? Interviewer: U.S Embassy, yeah. [Foreign language 00:06:40] Interviewer: The U.S Embassy gave you guys a donation, right? Is that correct? Respondent: No. Interviewer: Or someone else. Respondent: No, but we have request [inaudible 00:06:51]. Interviewer: Yeah, yeah. U.S Embassy, that's all. [Foreign language 00:06:55] Speaker 1: She say, I am asking you where do you found our addresses because to be transparent and our organization is working on awareness raising also and we are trying to identify some deaf, blind people in Ethiopia around; all over Ethiopia. Do you hear me? Interviewer: Their organization you guys are trying to be more transparent? Speaker 1: Yeah. She ask you where do you found our addresses Interviewer: Information, yeah. Speaker 1: because I should be informed where do you found where do our contacted with your person, contacted with others, so it should it could be more transparent for us and for you also and about the organization. She is saying that it's working on awareness raising and it's also a member of [inaudible 00:09:25] Federation of the Deafblind. Do you hear me? I'm sorry. Interviewer: Yeah. No, it's all right. Respondent: No, what she's saying, correction too. Yeah, what she's saying that in [inaudible 00:09:40] our organization is called the Ethiopian National Association of the Deafblind. It's engaged in awareness raising among the Ethiopian community, it's engaged in identifying deaf, blind people and then [recollect 00:09:59] them to our organization. Then it's also giving some capacity building trainings for deaf, blind people themselves and their families and also awareness among many various professionals such as [inaudible 00:10:22] professionals, people who are in touch with the grassroots such as community based rehabilitation workers, health extension workers, teachers of

the special need schools and so on and so on. What she's saying is our organization [inaudible 00:10:45] is Interviewer: She's happy to know that the U.S Embassy was able to is that Respondent: Huh? Interviewer: You're happy to know that U.S Embassy was able to recognize you? Respondent: Of course, [inaudible 00:10:54] the assistance of the method sales mission has visited our organization. His excellency assistant mission, assistant ambassador, she was here. Interviewer: Yeah. It's good to be here. Respondent: Yeah. Of course no delegation yet. Maybe you can be a link to us also. Interviewer: Yeah. Respondent: Yeah? Maybe. Who knows. Interviewer: I'll get your banking information and we'll go from there. Respondent: Yeah, [inaudible 00:11:21], yeah. Interviewer: I don't even have I couldn't even get money yet. I'm like yeah, so money is a choice that's weird like I'm trying to get myself. My friends are paying for me and like okay. Respondent: Yeah. That's why she wants that. Interviewer: Great. Yeah, definitely I'll make a donation, yeah. I'll get your information and I'll do that [inaudible 00:11:40]. Respondent: Okay. Interviewer: Personally. You have individuals here. You talk about teachers; you train teachers or you make them more aware or? Respondent: No. You see what we are doing here Interviewer: It's just Respondent: [Inaudible 00:12:00]. One is awareness. Interviewer: Awareness, yeah. Respondent: Because people do not much about deaf, blindness, and problems, work concerns that the blind people the public do not know. Even in the Interviewer: What are the things that you educate. Respondent: Yeah, and we have to [inaudible 00:12:19] I think. That's one front. That's one task of [inaudible 00:12:25]. Another one is we have to empower those deaf, blind people. We have to empower them by training them various skills on various capacity building trends. That's one trend or one task of [inaudible 00:12:44]. Another one is we are training deaf, blind children these life skills. We have some here now. This office is also comprises an educational center for the deaf, blind children whereby they learn life skills; pre-education skills. Interviewer: Great. Respondent: That's what we are doing now but this organization, they don't have any resource of their own. They're to seek hundreds from abroad and local. Our work is

directly related to the fact that we're getting. If we get more fund, we can expand our work, we can do more. If not, constraint on hand, of course we only do less work; very little things. Interviewer: Right, yeah. Respondent: Currently we're of course in a critical situation. We're short of funds, so we're seeking individuals, organizations who can support us. Interviewer: The government? Does the government play a role in supporting you? Respondent: Yeah, yeah. Government is playing a role. [Inaudible 00:14:10] our organizations we are all [inaudible 00:14:13] the government. Yeah, we have already our own license and also the government is giving a very small fund; very small of course because the government has many priority. As you know, Ethiopia is a developing country. Interviewer: Yeah, yeah. Respondent: Yeah, so government cannot spare big money for us. Interviewer: How long has this been organizing Respondent: Organization? Interviewer: This organization, yeah. [Foreign language 00:14:42] Respondent: Eight years since the establishment of Interviewer: Eight years? Respondent: Yeah, [inaudible 00:14:57]. That is it. That's all. [Foreign language 00:15:01] Respondent: Anything that you want to know? Interviewer: What is that? Respondent: What? Interviewer: What is that? Respondent: This is for the children; for the deaf, blind children. Yeah, they just want they will save this by third time. They cannot see of course, so they can feel [inaudible 00:15:23], see? Yeah, they feel and they see maybe a little bit. Interviewer: All right. [Foreign language 00:15:30] Interviewer: How big is braille. I don't know much anything about braille. Respondent: Yeah, this is braille. You would call it braille machine. Interviewer: Braille machine. Respondent: Of course it is the [Foreign language 00:15:47] Respondent: You read braille? Interviewer: I don't know. No, I do not. Respondent: Want to learn a bit? Interviewer: No. I don't have [inaudible 00:15:59].

[Foreign language 00:16:00] Respondent: You have to learn it, yeah. Interviewer: Yeah. It's so weird like my condition is rare that I go 100% blind but I don't know. It just as you know it progresses. Respondent: Yeah, yeah. Interviewer: I'm pretty good compared elder brother has the same condition. It's genetic. Respondent: Your brother has the same condition? Interviewer: Yeah, it's a genetic condition. Respondent: Okay. Interviewer: Yes, it's genetic. [Foreign language 00:16:27] Interviewer: Usher syndrome is the name of the condition. It's genetic. Respondent: We have also you know we have one family here who has got many children from one family [foreign language 00:16:43], five of them, five of them in one family. One girl is dead, another one is deaf, blind and another one is also deaf, blind. So many people like that in one family. Interviewer: Genetics. Respondent: Yeah. Interviewer: A genetic vision. Respondent: Yeah. Interviewer: Two parents with the gene. Respondent: Yeah. Interviewer: They it's rare that they come together but when they do Respondent: Yeah. Interviewer: My condition is one in four and so one in four of the kids that the parents have the gene, and we have four kids and two of us got it. [Foreign language 00:17:16] Respondent: When is start this illness with you? When? When does it started? Interviewer: The eye condition? Respondent: Yeah. [Foreign language 00:17:40] Interviewer: I guess I stopped being able to drive a year and a half ago. [Foreign language 00:17:49] Interviewer: Before that I couldn't drive at night for a while and then Respondent: Okay. Interviewer: It really started three or four years ago it started to get [Foreign language 00:17:57] Respondent: How about the hearing problem. Interviewer: Hearing I was born with, so it's actually stable.

Respondent: Okay. Interviewer: I have hearing aids obviously. Respondent: Oh, you have hearing aids, yeah? Okay. Interviewer: Yeah. They're really tiny but one's kind of busted so it was like that's what I need. Respondent: You cannot hear without it, uh? Without it you cannot hear? Interviewer: Yeah, I cannot hear too well. I can hear low pitch sounds pretty well but high pitch sounds I can't hear at all. Respondent: Okay. [Foreign language 00:18:27] Respondent: Anything you can ask us please. Interviewer: Yeah. Respondent: What do you want to know? Interviewer: I guess like what would happen if you had more funds. Everything would just expand, more staff or you'd be able to affect more people; simple solutions? Respondent: Yeah. [Foreign language 00:18:57] Speaker 1: Before the establishment of the association, there is no one who is working, concerned on deaf, blindness. Respondent: In Ethiopia. Speaker 1: In Ethiopia. Respondent: Can you hear her? Interviewer: Uh Respondent: You heard, okay. Interviewer: Yeah, Ethiopia. [Foreign language 00:20:01] Speaker 1: When the association is started, established, we work on identifying deaf, blind person and we are trying to integrate them with the society. Our aim was that. Did you hear me? Okay. [Foreign language 00:20:59] Speaker 1: When we start to work, we are [Foreign language 00:21:21] Speaker 1: We got a certification from the government and we established board members who are deaf, blind [inaudible 00:21:31] and we have also [Foreign language 00:21:34] Respondent: General assembly. Speaker 1: General assembly who are deaf, blind themselves also. [Foreign language 00:21:45] Speaker 1: When we start the work, we are starting with volunteers in the board members only. When we start the activity of the association, we only use

Respondent: Volunteers. Speaker 1: volunteers only. We use volunteers only. Interviewer: Volun- what is that? Respondent: Volunteers. Volunteers. Speaker 1: Volunteers. Respondent: Not paid. Not paid employees but volunteers. Interviewer: Volunteers? Respondent: Volunteers, yeah, yeah. Interviewer: Volunteers. Respondent: You got it. Interviewer: Volunteers. Volunteers. Respondent: Yeah. Interviewer: Okay, volunteers, all right. Respondent: Yeah, yeah. Interviewer: Yeah, yeah. That's how a lot of organizations start off. Respondent: Yes, that is it. Interviewer: People are passionate. Respondent: Yeah. Interviewer: If I've heard correctly, there's people in government that have issues that are government officials that have deaf, blind issues? Is that what she said or did that make sense? Respondent: No, no. There are people with disability everywhere; in parliament, [inaudible 00:23:05] parliament. There are people Interviewer: They're affected by it. Respondent: Yeah, there are deaf, blind there are blind peoples everywhere; everywhere. Interviewer: Is cataracts a certain issue here in Ethiopia? Respondent: Cataracts? Interviewer: Cataracts is how Respondent: No, cataracts only for blindness. Only for blindness, not for deaf, blindness. Interviewer: Yeah. Okay. Respondent: Not occurs for deaf, blindness. Only for blindness, yes. Interviewer: Cataracts is [inaudible 00:23:32]. Respondent: Yes, maybe, yeah, it could be. It could be. [Foreign language 00:23:34] Respondent: Do you want to see the children? No? Can we see? No? Interviewer: Yeah, it would be great. Respondent: Yeah? Interviewer: Yeah.

Respondent: Now they're on the [Foreign language 00:23:48] Interviewer: What are some of the issues that parents have that you guys are helping with them? Parents come here with their children who Respondent: Yes, yes. Interviewer: and how do you help the parents cope or you know what I'm saying? Respondent: Yeah. [Foreign language 00:24:12] Respondent: Come, I show you. [Foreign language 00:24:35] Respondent: What she's saying here, one of our activities is giving services to deaf, blind children. We have deaf, blind children here. This office premises is used for blood purposes. One as [inaudible 00:25:54] for the [inaudible 00:25:55] organization. Number two as a center for the deaf, blind children. We're teaching them life skills; pre-education skills like toileting, like clothing, like feeding by themselves, like movement, orientation, interaction, like that. Interviewer: Yeah, that's great, and you've got to keep it simple because that way you can sell yourself; what you're doing. Respondent: Yeah. [Foreign language 00:26:24] Interviewer: Is that a good place? [Foreign language 00:26:31] Respondent: What she's telling you, the organization has got many tasks empowering the deaf, blind people, empowering parents and families of the deaf, blind people. As she has already mentioned you, educating skills, life skills for the deaf, blind children. Awareness, a very great problem here in our country. People the stigma which is prevailing especially in rural areas that the deaf, blind people is of no use but of course if an appropriate intervention is there, they can use their potentials. This organization is doing so many things but all dependent upon the resources. Interviewer: Resources, yeah. Respondent: Yeah, this is what is very crucial. Interviewer: I hear you. Respondent: Okay. [Foreign language 00:28:12] Respondent: What she's telling you now, especially at this critical time we have a very great problem in shortage of fund, shortage of fund. She's telling you now you can see the children, right? Interviewer: All right, let's [Foreign language 00:28:36]

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Speaker 3: Is it very interesting? Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 3: Its all [inaudible 00:01:28]? Speaker 1: Yeah, we [inaudible 00:01:30]. Female: [We give yeah 00:01:30]. Speaker 1: Yeah, you can come up [with it 00:01:33]. Speaker 3: [Inaudible 00:01:38 - 00:01:39]? Speaker 1: [Theres a little problem here 00:01:43]. [Truthfully 00:01:51] guide them. Speaker 3: This is car you do it every day you go Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Speaker 3: there? You take it [normally 00:01:55], you take a [minute 00:01:56] Speaker 1: Yes, yes. Thats what we do. Thats what we do. Speaker 3: [A girls food bag 00:02:09]. Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Speaker 3: What is it? Speaker 1: The peanut. Speaker 3: [Spinach 00:02:14]? Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 3: Were in. Speaker 1: [Amharic language 00:02:17]? Female: [Amharic language 00:02:19]. Speaker 3: [That big thing 00:02:18]. Female: [You can see 00:02:20]. Speaker 1: [Amharic language 00:02:28 - 00:02:29]? Female: Mm? Speaker 1: [Amharic language 00:02:30 - 00:02:31]. Male: [Amharic language 00:02:30 - 00:02:31]. Speaker 1: [Amharic language 00:02:32 - 00:02:34]? Female: [Amharic language 00:02:33]. Speaker 1: Mm? Female: [Amharic language 00:02:34]. Male: [Amharic language 00:02:36]. Speaker 1: [Amharic language 00:02:38]. [You can talk 00:02:40]. [Amharic language00:02:44 - 00:02:46]. [Amharic language 00:02:47] Speaker 1: Can take a picture of that and yeah. Speaker 1: [Amharic language 00:02:53 - 00:02:53] Female: Mm? Speaker 1: [Amharic language 00:02:54]? Female: Mm? Speaker 1: [Amharic language 00:02:55 - 00:02:57]?

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Female: [Amharic language 00:03:49]? [Amharic language 00:03:50]? Speaker 1: [Amharic language 00:03:51 - 00:03:52]. Female: [Amharic language 00:03:53]? Speaker 1: [Amharic language 00:03:55 - 00:03:57]. Female: [Amharic language 00:03:58]? Speaker 1: [Amharic language 00:03:59]? Female: [Yeah 00:04:00]. Speaker 1: [Amharic language 00:04:01 - 00:04:02]? Female: [Amharic language 00:04:03 - 00:04:04]. Speaker 1: [Amharic language 00:04:05]. Female: [Amharic language 00:04:05] Speaker 1: [Amharic language 00:04:06]? Female: [Yeah.00:04:06]. Speaker 1: [Amharic language 00:04:07]? Female: [Yeah 00:04:06]. Speaker 1: [Amharic language 00:04:07]. Female: [Amharic language 00:04:09]. Speaker 1: [Amharic language 00:04:09 - 00:04:11]. [Amharic language 00:04:15] Yeah. Female: [Amharic language 00:04:16 - 00:04:17]? Speaker 1: Be careful. Be careful. You can have a seat over here now yeah? If you want. Be careful that Female: [Amharic language 00:04:24 - 00:04:25] Speaker 1: [Amharic language 00:04:25]. [There are pretty much a 00:04:27][woman 00:04:27]. [Amharic language 00:04:28 - 00:04:30]. Female: [Amharic language 00:04:32 - 00:04:33]? Speaker 1: [Amharic language 00:04:33 - 00:04:334]? Female: Mm. Speaker 1: [Amharic language 00:04:35 - 00:04:36]. Female: [Amharic language 00:04:36 - 00:04:37] [Amharic language 00:04:37] [e-mail 00:04:37- Amharic language 00:04:38]. Speaker 1: [Amharic language 00:04:39 - 00:04:43]? Female: Uh-huh? Speaker 1: [Amharic language 00:04:44 -00:04:46]? Female: [Amharic language 00:04:46]? Speaker 1: [Amharic language 00:04:47 - 00:04:53]. Female: [Amharic language 00:04:53 - 00:04:55]? Speaker 1: [Amharic language 00:04:56 -00:04:58]? Female: Hmm? [Amharic language 00:04:59 - 00:05:01]? Speaker 1: [Amharic language 00:05:01 - 00:05:04]

Female: Hmm? Speaker 1: [00:05:05 - 00:05:06]? Female: Yeah. Speaker 1: [Amharic language 00:05:07]. Female: [Amharic language 00:05:08 - 00:05:09] Speaker 1: [Amharic language 00:05:09 - 00:05:17] Female: [Amharic language 00:05:18 -00:05:22]? Speaker 1: [Amharic language 00:05:22]. Female: Mm? Speaker 1: [Amharic language 00:05:23]. [Amharic language 00:05:24 - 00:05:26] 1 Female: [Amharic language 00:05:26 - 00:05:27]? Speaker 1: [Amharic language 00:05:28]. Female: [Amharic language 00:05:28 - 00:05:29] Speaker 1: [Amharic language 00:05:29 - 00:05:30]. Female: [Amharic language 00:05:30]. Speaker 1: [Amharic language 00:05:31 - 00:05:36]? Female: All right. [Amharic language 00:05:38]? Speaker 1: [Hello, 00:05:38]. Whats shes asking you now, is there any way; you can help this organization to get some funds from somewhere? Speaker 3: I dont know. Im just starting the process. Im curious to make a small donation myself. But obviously, its not going to [keep 00:06:02] a big one as far as that goes. Im starting to meet with more people and organizations in the US and so on. Speaker 1: Yes, yes thats what I want. Speaker 3: I can let them know whats going on. Speaker 1: Yes, that is it. Speaker 3: So thats Speaker 1: That is it. That is it. Speaker 3: Yeah, this is eye opening for me and so I bring that information on. Speaker 1: That is it. Thats great. Speaker 3: Thats the whole idea. Speaker 1: Thats great youre going to tell them there. Even you have our e -mails so youll give them our e-mail address. Speaker 3: You have information, or cards and stuff? Speaker 1: No, we dont have but we can give you our addresses. Speaker 3: Yeah, okay. Put that Speaker 1: We can put address; address here. We can give our address. You can give them and let they write for us or ask Speaker 3: Yeah, let me Speaker 1: You have our e-mail address?

Speaker 3: Do I? Yeah, my friend set this up; the USA guy. I think we have your information; I meant picture. Do you have website or? Website? Speaker 1: Yes. Well, not exactly big one. We have one article [inaudible 00:07:01]. We have got a [federation 00:07:02]. Federation means Speaker 3: Federation. Speaker 1: Yeah. There are DPOs like ours. Six DPOs; there is an umbrella organization called The Ethiopian National Association of People with Disabilities. In that website, we have also an article about [inaudible 00:07:23]. It may have some. Let me check with have a seat please. Speaker 3: I will. Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Speaker 3: Hes interesting.