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•   Gloria  Anzaldua,  Borderlands/La Frontera: The  New  Mestiza  (San  Francisco:  Spinsters! 
Aunt  Lute,  1987),78-79. 
71.   Pat  Mora,  Nepantla:  Essays  from  the  Land  in  the  Middle  (Albuquerque:  University  of 
New  Mexico Press,  1993), 6. 
72..  Behar, Translated  Woman,  2.33-34· 
73.   For  a perceptive  discussion  of photography"and colonialism, see Irvin  Schick, "Represent-
ing Middle Eastern Women:  Feminism  and  Colonial  Discourse,"  Feminist Studies  16,  no. 
2. (1990):  345- 80. 
74.  Kendall,  Life and  Hard Times  of a Korean Shaman. 
7 5.  Renato  Rosaldo,  Culture  and  Truth:  The  Remaking  of Social  Analysis  (Boston:  Beacon 
Press,  1989), 2.17· 
76.   Lila  Abu-Lughod,  "Can  There  Be a  Feminist  Ethnography?"  Women  and  Performance: 
A]ournalofFeminist Theory  5,  no.  1 (1990):  2.6. 
BARBARA  TEDLOCK 
EXCERPT  FROM  an  (unsuccessful)  application 
to  the Spencer Foundation, August 1992: 
We are applying to  the  Spencer  Foundation 
for support which would enable  us to  com-
plete  a collaborative,  cross-disciplinary inves-
tigation of the  comparative impact on  radical 
academic men of the goals  and perspectives 
associated with  Women's and Ethnic Studies. 
Combining textual criticism  with oral history 
and participant-observation, our  project takes 
as the  object of its investigation our  subjects' 
scholarship as well  as their  teaching,  their  col-
legial relations,  their  institutional practice  and 
behaviors, the  development of their  cultural 
knowledge,  the  intellectual and  political 
milieus in which they move, and their  per- '1
sonal  liues. 
In studying the  complex ways  that radical  
academic males  have  assimilated,  translated  
and/or evaded critical perspectives on gender,  
race, and sexual identity, our study sheds  light  
upon the  uneven and complicated ways  in  
which different kinds ofprivileged "others"  
come,  and do  not come,  to  take  on  knowl-
edges and gOals  which in some way challenge  
their  own privilege.  Our project focuses,  that  
is, on  the  conditions which produce "traitor-
ous  identities, " a willingness to  betray the  tra-..  
ditional privileges  of one's  group and  one's  
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own position. An investigation of this kind, it seems to us, has insights of partic-
ular importance to offer at the present time, when U.S. society itself is rapidly
becoming racially and ethnically more diverse, when race and gender tensions
are on the rise, when economic resources are shrinking (for all but the elite),
when "multiculturalism" in higher education is under attack, and when affirma-
tive action policies, in particular, are the subject of intense debate. As scholars
invested in equality and justice, we feel that careful, ethnographic investigation
of changing discourse and practice in relation to race and gender and of the
processes by which such changes have taken place are key to developing further
strategies for democratizing not just the academy but U.S. society as a whole.
This is, for us, the central contribution our project makes to new knowledge
about education.
Changing Our Story
Like most feminist scholars, during the past two decades we have spent the
greater part of our intellectual energies gathering and interpreting material about
women.' Part of this work, to be sure, involved us in studying men, but when it did
so, our goal was less to understand them than to better know ourselves and other
women. The current political and intellectual context has prompted us to shift this
focus somewhat. First, the general backlash against feminism, multiculturalism, and
affirmative action provokes stock-taking about what second-wave feminism and
multiculturalism have actually accomplished. Secondly, the proliferation of various
species of men's movements (from feminist, to spiritual, to antifeminist) challenges
us to think about ways in which men are and want to be changing and about what
feminisms have had to do with these efforts to reinvent masculinity.
More broadly, the conservative backlash against political correctness positions
academic feminists, antiracist men of color, and gay academic men alongside white
straight men of almost any critical intellectual stripe, attacking us all as if we were
disloyal to civilization in the same way. On the other end of the political spectrum,
cultural studies, the academic signifier of the 1990S, offers to embrace us under its
own conceptual and institutional umbrella, while the emergence of a conservative
Congress suggests a renewed need for political alliance and activism that extend
well beyond the academy. Together these developments generate important ques-
tions about our relationship as feminists to left-leaning and antiracist academic rnen
and to collective political action as a whole. It seems more urgent than before to
define the kinds and forms of alliances that are desirable and os' e. For this rea-
son, among or ers, we ave egun to stu y men in a different way.
The Postrnodern Fix
Studying men, however, with an eye to alliance rather than surveillance or self-
knowledge raises dilemmas which even the current priorities and frameworks of
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academic feminism seem ill suited to handle. One formulation of the difficulties we
have encountered is something we call "the postmodern fix." Mainstream academic
feminism, as is well known, has undergone a series of transformations in the last
fifteen years, which have opened it to new forms of dialogue and exchange. Unified
categories like "women" have come into question; gender has come to be seen as
multiple and various, as coconstructed with race, class, and sexual and national
identity. Identity politics, as the politics of the "same," has given way, as a domi-
nant mode of conceptualizing feminist community, to a politics involving multiple
alliances, alliances across identities, alliances with those whose lives and identities
are in a sense "wrong." 2 These are the transformations, often referred to as post-
modern, in which we situate our own "border crossings" in this project.
Ironically, however, for all its identification with the fluid and the multiple, post-
modernism has (inevitably) taken on some unifying and homogenizing functions.
Post modern as a category, for example, is often employed in order to fix the hetero-
geneity of theoretical and political genealogies into the grand narrative of itself.
Thus the fragmentation of unitary assumptions about gender, which is often glossed
as postrnodern, was introduced into feminist discourse as early as the 1970S through
the work of feminists of color and lesbians, who did not then identify themselves
with that term.' Dominant forms of feminist postrnodernisrn, moreover, seem them-
selves to run in some well-worn grooves. (We are familiar with these grooves. This
is our fix too.) The most dominant form of postmodern feminism, for example,
signifies aJliance across identities and rightly privileges some alliances over others. It
privileges alliance between women, most particularly now across racial and ethnic
lines. As white feminists we feel, without question, that women of color are currently
the "other" of most pressing concern, and on our own campus we have worked
hard to build a women's studies program that is fully multicultural and that aims at
mutually constructed agendas and shared power. We would raise the question,
nonetheless, of whether a postrnodern feminism can afford, any more than mod-
ernist feminism, to be a project for women only. Feminists of color have almost
always claimed some alliance with progressive men in their own racial or ethnic
communities, but for most white feminisms men (often unified as a single category)
have been the most "other" of all "others." The shift within academic mainstream
feminism from identity politics to politics across identities challenges us to move
more fully across this divide as well, challenges feminists in general to at least inves-
tigate the possibilities of alliance with progressive men, including white men, who
have signaled the desire and potential for a politics beyond their own interests.'
Although most academic feminists tend to assume, in good postmodern fashion,
that their identities are contradictory and divided, that it is possible, for example, to
be a white antiracisr or a heterosexual woman of color who is antihomophobic,
men are more likely to be rns.represented as somewhat fixed. (Or, like Cathy in the
cartoon, feminists may complain: "Why is it the only time men really change, it's
into something totally aggravating?") There is something to the complaint raised by
critics of political correctness (and critics writing for the New Criterion intersect
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here  with  those  writing  for  Socialist Review) that certain  feminist  categories-the 
Western  subject,  white  middle-class  male,  dead  white  men-lack complexity  and 
nuance.'  These  critics  of  political  correctness,  moreover,  intersect  with  the  mild-
mannered  complaint  of  an  African  American  male  scholar  we  interviewed  who 
reported that "I  get  impatient with feminists  who represent men  of color as  perpet-
ually  underdeveloped.  You  know-'you men  can't  get  it  right!'  We  need  dialogue 
with feminists  about this.  Maybe we  can't do  it on  your terms alone." 
Postmodern  feminisms  assume  that  identities  are  constructed  in  multiple,  shift-
ing,  contradictory  discourses,  and yet  the  most  dominant feminist  mode of  writing 
about  male  others  is that of  confidently reading their  race  and  gender  politics,  and 
sometimes their  psychologies and characters, out of their published texts.  (We should 
know.  We have  contributed to  this genre.)" But published texts, which are  peculiarly 
subject  to  the  norms  governing career  advance-such  as  displays  of  mastery  over 
one's own  turf-may be not  only  partial  but  also  misleading  indices  of  what some 
male  others  are  up  to  when  our  backs  are  turned.  Perhaps  there  are  more  multi-
layered, more  "postmodern" ways  of reading these  academic others, with whom our 
intellectual, political, and social  lives are  often  entwined. 
Although most current feminisms  assume the situated, partial nature of all knowl-
edge,  acknowledgment of  the  partiality, the  limitations,  the  possible  night  blindness 
of  one's  own  critique, seems  almost easier to  come  by these  days,  in  white feminist 
texts  at least,  when they  are  written from  the  position of the  white feminist's greater 
power (in relation to  women of color,  for  example) than when they  are  written from 
the  position of  her/our subordination  (in  relation  to  men  and especially  those who 
are  white  and  heterosexual).'  And  here  again,  although  we  are  committed  to  the 
radical  revision  of  race  and  gender power relations  in  the  academy  and beyond, we 
have  to  acknowledge that there  are  positions which appear to  present themselves as 
beyond  criticism.  (Some of them  are  our own, when  we  write  with the  rectitude and 
moral authority of subordinates,  when we  know we're right.) It  is in  the  context of 
this  fix on  postmodernism that we  also  situate our study of  radical academic men.  It
is in the context of this  postmodern fix-and of other fixes as well-that we attempt 
in the  following  pages  to think about rethinking men,  that we  attempt to  reflect  on 
the  positions,  discourses,  and  paradigms  with  which  we  began,  which  we  were  to 
encounter,  and through  which  we  sometimes  moved  as  we  began  our work  on  this 
project. 
But,Judy  ... 
Excerpts  from  three  responses  to  our  first  paper,  which  focused  on  white  male 
cultural critics: 
1.   (A  WHITE  FEMINIST)  "I  enjoyed reading this  immensely,  arid/bur it made  me 
slightly  nervous.  What I am  curious and  worried about is that the  attention to 
[these guys]  reproduces a celebration and authority you  are  trying to  question 
2.90  JUDITH  NEWTON  AND  JUDITH  STACEY 
and combat. I mean,  they'll love  it,  no?  And  won't it keep  them  center-stage 
despite your critique? Well, that's a  basic,  overall concern I have." 
2.  (A  FE MIN 1ST  0  F  COL 0  R)  "Could your focus  on  two white male  theorists at 
this  particular historical moment be read  as  a kind of  displacement of  the  cri-
tiques  feminists  of color have  been  making about retaining gender at  the  center 
of feminist theorizing?  ... Is there  also  a way in  which you  retain 'men' as  the 
'other' of  feminism  rather than addressing the range of  theoretical responses of 
'other' women currently contesting and  refiguring  feminist  epistemology?" 
 
'.'
3· (A  WHITE,  PROFEMINIST  MAN)  "I  wonder if you  bend  over  backwards too 
much.  You take 8 pp  to  get  going,  and  some  of  the  later text  too sounds, not 
nagging,  but  very apologetic, as if you  are  not sure  you  have  the  right  to  say  all 
this.  I think we should insist  that all the  members of  the  rainbow do  have  a right 
to  robust speech, and if they  get  it wrong then they  turn around and  correct 
themselves and  go  forward." 
Excerpt  from  a  taped  "conversation  about  race  and  class"  between  bell  hooks 
and  Mary Childers: 
HOOKS:  It is important to  remember that victimization  by men  has  been  the  pri-
mary  category of oppression in feminism. 
CHILDERS:  Though I certainly don't want to  let  men  off  the  hook, it is worth-
while  to  look out for  examples of  how often an exclusive focus  on  male/female 
conflict serves  as a distraction from  other kinds  of conflict.' 
Tania  Modleski on  the  dangers of a dialogic approach to  writing about men: 
While terms like "dialogism" ... are commonly evoked in the rationale for
these volumes it is  hard to see how such a term functions as anything more than
a euphemism for "dialogue" -a concept that in eliding the question of power
asymmetry has rather conservative implications.'
\JI
A male  participant in the  Marxist Literary Group's Summer Institute after  hear-
ing  a  draft of  our  paper  on  two  male  cultural critics  and  on  learning  that  we  were 
planning not only  to  interview them  but  to  show them the  paper we were  writing: 
Do that and you're dead in the water.
A conversation between Judys: 
JUDY:  There's no  end  of  things we  ca!"!  be criticized for;  how  about heterosexual 
presumption? 
JUDY:  Of course, we  can  raise  all these  issues overtly,  but  then we'll be vulnerable 
to  the  charge of  having  included an  "inoculating critique" of  our own  blind 
spots"so  as  to  allow business to  proceed as  usual." to 
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JUDY:  Great!  We're going to  alienate everyone. 
Excerpt from our risk-to-human-subjects protocol: 
My co-investigator [udith Newton and I are convinced that the potential bene-
fits of this project far outweigh the small risk it poses to interviewees. Indeed,
we believe that this project may place our own scholarly output and reputations
at greater risk than that of our subjects. Fear ofoffending cooperating colleagues
may hamper our own critical expression, and if we do offend any subjects,
they are well-positioned to "retaliate" in print. Perhaps, Judith Newton and
I are the principal human subjects at risk in this study.
The  Return  of the Suppressed 
Despite  our  desire  to  hear  the  discourse  of  progressive  male  others  in  a  more 
multivalent,  less  self-righteous  way,  our initial  efforts  to  know these  potential  allies 
took  a  familiar  shape-s-ms.representing  men's  stories  through  critical  readings  of 
their  written  texts.  We  did  adopt,  to  be sure,  a  less  sarcastic,  more  self-critical  tone 
than  in  our  previous  efforts  to  write  about  men-a  tone  which  will  inevitably  sit 
better with male  academics  than  with female  feminists,  but which  will,  we  are  con-
vinced, actively please no  one.  In  spite  of  these  cosmetic changes,  however,  what we 
achieved  in  the  end  was  a  more  moderate version  of  SOme  familiar  modes,  the  well-
meaning feminist report card, the  gently nagging rexr." 
In  keeping  with  our  focus  on  cultural  studies  and  on  the  politics  of  academic 
men,  we  chose as  subjects  two  well-known, white cultural  studies scholars,  both of 
whom  had  written  on  the  colonizing  nature  of Western  discourse  on  "the  other." 
Somewhat  serendipitously-we  happened  to  see  Kevin  Costner's  Oscar-winning 
Dances with Wolves while  working  on  our  subjects'  latest  books-we  adopted  a 
strategy  familiar  to  cultural  studies  itself,  that  of  reading  across  cultural  texts  and 
juxtaposing high  and low. We used  the  insights of our subjects' texts as grids through 
which  to  read  the  colonizing  strategies  of Dances with Wolves, an  officially  anti-
imperialist film,  and  then employed our enhanced reading of Costner's film  to  inves-
tigate  the  ways  in  which  our  subjects  reinscribe  some  of  the  same  colonizing 
strategies  in  their  own  anti-imperialist  texts.  Finally,  we  drew  on  our  own  insights 
to  read  the  gender politics of  all  three works and  to  suggest  some relations  between 
their gender  and racial  narratives. 
In  the  texts  of  Costner  and  of  the  cultural  studies scholars, for  example,  issues 
having to  do  with  the  politics  of  knowledge  and  authority are  critically entertained 
in  relation  to  strategically  distanced  male  native  others. These  same  narratives, we 
felt, might  also  be  read  as  implicit,  displaced  responses  to  feminist  and  domestic 
antiracist critique-responses that struck us  as  radically abstracted from  overt con-
siderations  of  gender  politics,  in  particular, and  as  reinforcing  sexual  hierarchies." 
Our initial  explanation  for  what  seemed  to  us  displaced  responses  to  gender chal-
lenge  was  a  fairly egocentric one-that feminist challenges were too  threatening for 
men  to  engage  with  head  on.  This at  least  is how we  initially  rns.represented  men's 
stories, inevitably projecting onto them  perspectives from  our own." 
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Ethnographic  Encounters of the Unsettling Kind 
If the  major conceit  of  the  erhnographic enterprise is  its  capacity  to  disrupt cul-
tural prejudice, we were not to be disappointed. It did  nor  take  long before fieldwork 
began  to  complicate  the  analysis  about  male  responses  to  gender  and  race  chal-
lenges that we  had  derived  from  men's texts." As soon as  we  initiated  the  process of 
conducting oral  histories  on  male cultural  critics,  we  elicited  self-representations of 
the  impact  that  feminism  has  had  on  their  lives  and  work  that  are  at  once  more 
deflating and  more flattering than we  had anticipated." 
ENCOUNTER  I
JU D Y: You  know, you  were living  in  an  area  that was  a  major center for  feminism 
then; did  you  know that? 
A  MALE  CULTURAL  CRITIC:  Of  course! 
JUDY:  You  knew it  then? 
HIM:  Of course. 
JUDY:  Like  what? Was  it  noticeable? 
HIM  [pause): No. I don't think so. 
JUDY:  Do  you  have  any  memories? 
HIM:  No.  
J U D Y: Any  personal life, any  social life, things  happening, incidents, soundings?  
HIM:  Feminism was a  minimal kind  of  thing. 
JUDY:  What do  you  remember at  all? 
HIM:  Nothing. 
JUDY:  Media stuff, orwhat? 
HIM:  Nothing, zero  [laughing], I mean it's  really,  I'm going to  have  to  say  that in 
lieu  of  having, I mean if I don't have  a  strong memory, I mean I could probably, 
well  let  me  put  that, norhing, goose egg. What I'm saying is that without any-
thing coming immediately to mind, I would  have  to  think about it, and that -ells 
you  something. 
JUDY:  But  that's important. 
HIM:  Yeah. 
JU D Y: This is a  very  important question for  me.  I mean it's not  a criticism, it's  not 
a question  of,  why  didn't you? 
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HIM:  No, it's  just  me,  what can  I say? 
JUDY:  But  it's  not just  you,  because  it's  a milieu  you  were  part of. 
HIM:  Oh  yeah. 
JUDY:  I'm not even  asking  how  you  felt about it.  I just  wonder how and  when it 
entered.  -
ENCOUNTER  2 
ANOTHER  MALE  CULTURAL  CRITIC:  New historicism is a pathetic phenome-
non  compared with  feminism;  it could only  make any  sense  in the  kind  of 
ground that's  been  broken  by feminism,  for  a lot  of different reasons.  So I feel 
good about having  been  pressured into having  done this  work. Feminism is, it 
seems  to  me,  a kind  of sublime model for  what it is that any  intellectual for-
mation might hope  to  do. 
JUDY:  What do  you  mean  by that? 
HIM:  Well, it's  sublime because  it's  not approachable by something like decon-
structionism or  new  historicism, since  it  actually,  since  feminism has  a presence 
in the  real  world that no  academic theory,  whatever the game  is, will  have.  But I 
think that feminism  is not only  having this  presence in  the  world, including a 
political presence,  but  also  to  have  changed both the  theoretical and  object land-
scape  and that's all that an  academic can  possibly hope  to  do.  So 
it's  the  model.  I don't feel rivalrous at  all.  At  least  I'm not aware of feeling  rival-
rous,  in that I think  there's plenty  of room for  all kinds of  things  ... But  in any 
case,  I think of feminism  as  a vastly  bigger, more important field than mine. 
Our initial  construction of the  troubling textual silence  on  gender issues  in  many 
of our subjects' work (that gender critique was  too  threatening to handle), while  not 
entirely  discredited  by  our ethnographic  encounters,  was  at  least  radically  decen-
teredo As a group our  subjects were  far  from  uniform in  their  reported  responses  to 
early  feminist  critique, and  as individuals their  sensitivity to,  and  practice of,  gender 
criticism  were  unevenly  developed.  Subjects  who  did  engage  with  gender  issues  in 
their  published work were  often  already marginalized by ethnicity or  sexual identity 
or  by the  employment of  "feminized"  discourses  such  as  psychoanalysis.  Some  had 
been  in  long  relationships  with  feminists  or  had had  deep  and  often  painful  ties  to 
female  relatives.  StilI others were  young enough to  have  had  feminist  teachers  or  at 
least  feminist  cohorts  in  graduate  school.  A  younger  white  scholar,  for  example, 
who  is  now  in  men's  studies,  reports  that  he  entered  the  field  in  part  because  he 
received  "strokes" for  doing gender from his feminist college  teachers. 
In  the  case  of  many others,  however,  their  published  work,  as  the  area  of  their 
lives  most  open  to  public  scrutiny  and  most  crucial  to  their  career  advance,  often 
the  least  imprinting  by  critical  gender    Registering  the  keenly 
294  JUDITH  NEWTON  AND  JUDITH  STACEY 
competitive and  hierarchical nature of academic scholarship, some subjects recorded  
anxieties  about  "losing  one's  edge"  if  they  did  gender  criticism,  while  others  
expressed  fear  of  not  being  seen  as  serious  by  other  men  or  of  being  perceived  as  
soft  on  feminism.  
StilI others mentioned fear  of  offending gendered  and  racial  others as  a  primary  
motivation for  excluding gender and race  issues  from  their  published work:  "If I'm 
wrong,  the  person  who's  upset is  across  the  table."  They  talked  of  not wanting  to 
be  a  "tourist"  in  relation  to gender  issues  or  cited  anxiety  (at  times  justified)  over 
-being  charged with  appropriating and  usurping ethnic  and/or women's studies  ter-

rain.  One prominent white culture critic,  for  example, recounts an  incident in which 
h;gave what he  meant to  be a profeminisr talk  on  the  work of Virginia  Woolf,  only 
to  be  met  with feminist  charges  of  encroachment,  an  experience which  he  refers  to 
as the  damned if you  do,  and damned if you  don't conundrum. 
Our  subjects'  teaching,  however,  and  their  academic  politics  were  more  often 
reflective  of  serious  engagement  with  gender  and  racial  issues.  In  classrooms,  for 
example,  which  are  more  private  spaces  and  where  an  audience  of  graduate  stu-
dents,  in  particular,  is  likely  to  insist  on  hearing  the  perspectives  of  a  full  range  of 
historically  marginalized  groups,  critical  perspectives  on  gender  are  more  likely  to 
be  included  by  both  white  men  and  men  of  color.  As  one  African  American  male 
scholar explained: 
I had  two  T.A. 's who were feminists  in every sense of the  word,  T.A.'s  of color.  
It's a course that  I've  taught  on  "The Black  Experience," and  we got  into  quite  
a few discussions  about the question of gender and  its relationship  to  difference  
and  multiculturalism, and all these kinds  of issues. And again, having  to  con-
front  the  deep  ways  in which  a kind of masculinity {its in my  own way  of seeing  ,  
.1; 
the  world  and  having  it challenged, and expanded and  elaborated  upon  by these  
graduate  students has been very helpful.  It's  been frustrating  and  contentious  
at times,  but  it's also been incredibly  helpful in terms  of confronting just  what I  
was talking about, how do  you  make it become  an active  part of one's  work  
without taking it over, without being a tourist,  without trying  to speak  for, from  
a place that  you  really can't.  
To  some  degree,  then,  our confident assumption that silence  on  gender issues  in  
our subject's scholarship might be ascribed to  gender threat came  to  seem  to  us ideo-
logical.  Specifically,  it  began  to  seem  a  product,  at  least in  part,  of  our continuing  
immersion  in  early  white  feminist  understandings  of  the  world,  understandings  
forged  in a period of revolutionary fervor  and  in a period of (understandably egocen-
tric)  anger  and  disbelief  that  what  was  world  shaking  to  us  was  not  passionately  
cathected  by  our male  comrades." These  were  not the  only  assumptions,  however,  
that our ethnographic encounters were  to challenge.  Our initial  construction of  the  
political and  methodological difficulties  that our  project posed had  been  deeply  and  
consciously informed by later discourses as well,  most particularly by contemporary  
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feminist/postmodernist understandings about the politics and dynamics of knowing
"others." Our excursions into the "field" were also to complicate and decenter these
understandings.
Colonization Revisited
The governing premise of most current critical discourse on ethnographic
authority, for example, is that ethnographers inescapably exercise and exploit tex-
tual and social authority over the people they study, people who characteristically
occupy subordinate social positions. Astute critique and self-critique of the coloniz-
ing impulses, practices, and effects of ethnography dominate this literature. Much
feminist discussion of ethnographic practice has been preoccupied with fieldwork
and rhetorical strategies that attempt to disrupt these asymmetrical authority rela-
tions, presuming, reasonably enough, that most of the "others" of feminist ethno-
graphic research are less powerful women and/or, occasionally, subordinated men."
Our first move in relation to these formulations was to see our own project as a
replication in reverse of the usual script. As women studying men, that is, we were,
in erhnographic parlance, "studying up," at least in relationship to the men who
are white and heterosexual, while our political goals committed us to try to "study
across" as well. Although, as white, heterosexual, academic women, we share with
the majority of our subjects diverse forms of privilege, most of them are more privi-
leged still. Not only do they occupy the dominant gender position, but most are
prodigious achievers with fame, status, and ready access to print and to institu-
tional and cultural authority worldwide. Thus the inequalities between researchers
and researched sometimes seem pronounced, even in some instances in which our
gender "handicap" is offset by our racial or sexual privileges or by our status as rep-
resentarives of institutionalized feminism. Yet the culture wars and our own politics
also position our research subjects with us against threatening defenders of tradi-
tional privilege inside the academy and beyond.   after all, are "tenured radi-
Thus, from an at least partially subordinate location, we are studying
"domin " 0 are also otential, and desired, allies-men whose capacity for,
and commitment to, "traitorous" gender identities we seek to investigate and foster.
Our paradoxical location we felt posed ethical, political, social, and emotional chal-
lenges rarely encountered by, indeed often the inverse of those troubled,
many feminist or other postmodern ethnographers.
We were, we reflected, in little danger of colonizing most of our subjects. Spared
the temptation of humanist illusions about "giving voice to the voiceless," we could
evade the snares of Western feminist ethnographic romanticism." The subjects we
are studying are masters of representation, consummate storytellers, often sophisti-
cated ethnographers themselves. Their rhetorical expertise enables them to generate
ethnographic "data" even more self-serving and difficult to decode than that gener-
ally produced by less self-conscious narrators. What is more, their facility with and
access to academic and print media assure that they can command more than "equal
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time" to respond to any "ms.representations" of their narratives or work on our
part they find offensive. As our "risk to human subjects" protocol joked, fear of
such retaliatory maneuvers well might inhibit our legitimate, critical impulses and
expression.
Indeed, there seemed a significant risk that some of these informants would colo-
nize their ethnographers! Our very choice of male cultural critics as subjects, as
several feminist colleagues warned, might reinforce the colonization of the ethnog-
raphers and other women by recentering the very male authority we seek to challenge
and revise. Our political commitment to potential alliance-the "studymg across"
component of our project-intensified the danger by fostering a dialogic approach
which, as Tania Modleski points out, easily elides questions of power-the "study-
ing up" dimension here. In avoiding the mode of the feminist report card, the scold,
nag, or meter maid, we saw ourselves as flirting with our own domestication.
Ethnographic empathy, we concluded, compounded by conventional herero-
codes, magnified these hazards and threw our dialogic pretensions
into question. Ethnographic research necessitates a capacity for, indeed a flirtation
with, "going native" -occupying the cultural and emotional space of "the other."
As heterosexual women, we uneasily observed, we were all too practiced in the con-
ventional forms such flirtation takes with men-empathic listening, conversational
and social deference, drawing men out, decoding their moods, words, and silences,
encouraging, reassuring, and pleasing them-the myriad tactics of feminine social
sensitivity, solicitousness, and seduction.
Fieldwork, we felt compelled to confess, had begun to mimic, perhaps to parody,
heterosexual dating conventions and to erect surprising constraints on our capacity
for critical analyses of the Jives and the texts of our subjects. Having initiated a series
of intensive, often intimate, often pleasurable, conversations with our male infor-
mants (who were sometimes also friends), we found ourselves genuinely worried
about later wounding or offending even the less known and more powerful figures.
Betrayal, abandonment, and guilt are endemic to ethnographic research, as one of
us has discussed elsewhere," but here their symbolic loadings and effects were over-
burdened and distorted by heterosexual cultural codes. Intriguingly, our anxiety
over broken relationships and the guilt and regret we might experience by publicly
"betraying" male subjects seemed far more inhibiting than did any concerns about
public, academic forms of reprisal.
The social anxiety we began to experience was not simply a symptom of femi-
nine paranoia. Almost all of the oral histories we had conducted indicated male vul-
nerability to feminist critique and female judgment. In the words of one cultural
critic, whose work has engaged deeply and powerfully with feminist theory: "I feel
more on the line when I foreground gender than when I write in any other voice.
From direct and indirect experience, I feeT scrutinized, held accountable by femi-
nists. I worry about becoming a target of their hostility or ridicule. Of course, these
feelings articulate with old issues like a desire for female approval, which, I suspect,
drove my very interest in gender analysis to begin with." His accounts of the "skit-
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tishness" he feels about assuming a feminist voice are echoed in almost all of the
narratives, by men who have and those who have not braved the effort. "I've always
been afraid, I was very nervous about teaching that feminist theory class," confided
one who has. "I'm afraid to talk about feminism; that's where the PC policing is
done," declared one who has not. And while a third claimed that his published
work had received so much feminist criticism that he has "developed a thick skin,"
the rhetoric he employed-"See, that's where I got busted, not only for excluding
but also for including" women's texts-hinted, to us, of a less callused epidermis.
Moreover, our earliest forays into this ethnographic terrain provoked evidence
that despite our most cautious use of fieldwork "data," some informants will prove
easy to offend. For example, we sent an early conference version of this paper to the
anonymous cultural critic who narrates his minimal early awareness of feminism in
the first excerpt from interview transcripts above. We had, we thought, employed
this data at our own expense, to expose the feminist narcissism implicit in our
preethnographic male "displacement" thesis. The postcard we received back from
our "dialogic subject," while good-naturedly ironic, suggests that he read our use of
his words differently:
Dear Judy,
As our late President, a star, said, "Where's the rest of me?" Ginny loved the
use you made of me - I was less enamored, but I do understand the value of
good material in a pinch. Speaking as a victim, I think you should familiarize
yourself with the literature on what you can and can't get from interviews.
By return post we hastened to reassure our "victim" of our benevolent intentions,
displaying some deference by requesting more specific remedial reading suggestions.
In a second, more ethically confusing example, we interviewed two men after we
had already drafted a paper we meant to be both appreciative and critical of their
published work and then tried to honor our dialogic commitments by providing each
an opportunity to respond to a prepublication copy of the text-based critique.
While one claimed to have read our paper "with enormous pleasure and interest,"
and then to wonder if, "maybe I've been snookered," the other prefaced his lengthy,
far less enthusiastic reactions to our readings of his work with the acknowledgment
that "it would take a while, and several readings, to get beyond a 'reactive,' defen-
sive response. That's where I'd like to be, but as you'll see, I'm not there yet." Our
response, a cross between apology and debate, promised to make editorial changes
in our paper.
Such experiences left us uncertain whether to read the kinds of self-censorship
we began to find ourselves practicing as signs of political maturIty or as capitula-
~ Might we be succumbing to the seductive dangers of ovendentltymg with a
male elite cultural vanguard who possess the power, again in hallowed heterosexual
tradition, to confer on us vicarious cultural capital? We hoped it was "too soon to
start worrying yet," as a character from To Kill a Mockingbird might say, but we
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remained uneasily aware that our project had the capacity to foster our own traitor-
ous gender identities as well as those of our often-ingratiating, male "subjects."
Weapons of the Weak
A second set of reflections promoted by current theorizing about ethnographic
power relations had to do with the somewhat neglected topic of the powers avail-
able to the weak. Although feminist/postmodernist theory emphasizes the power of
the dominant, we were conscious that not all the structural or cultural advantages
of our project were stacked against us. While we encountered many unusual dilem-
mas in conducting ethnographic work on somewhat more powerful others, at the
same time we found ourselves enjoying a number of unanticipated resources, spon-
taneously deploying various "weapons of the weak." 21 Our research, for example,
struck us as exploiting certain heterosexual conventions that worked to our advan-
tage. The somewhat suspect pleasure in our ethnographic encounters that fueled our
interest in this project, we thought, must attract the cooperation of our male inter-
locutors as well. There was, for example, the seductiveness of the intimate interview
situation in which a rapt, female audience of one or two attended appreciatively to
the male subjects' every word. "There's an erotic side to this," one of our more
forthcoming research subjects acknowledged, "that we aren't talking about, that I'm
sure is going to be true of almost all men that are involved in this issue.... That's
one of the reasons it's fun to talk to you, and a lot comes out."
We were, we realized, also asking men to engage in "rapport talk," the kind of
private, intimate conversation about people, relationships, and emotions, that most
m.c;.!!.,according to Deborah Tannen, find difficult and in which most women ex£el.
Although sociolinguists find that "masculine" forms of "report talk" characterize
most "mixed" gender conversations, we called on our male informants to talk more
like women." This was difficult for some, who displayed obvious signs of reticence,
but we benefited from decades of practice in facilitating and decoding such male
locutions and often enjoyed the power of a superior facility in this oratorical genre.
At the same time, asking men to serve as our "informants" on their intellectual
work and politics exploits masculine facility with "report talk," as it appeals to
both their didactic and chivalrous impulses.
Courtly etiquette, moreover, seemed to collude with the political climate in left-
liberal circles, which still gives moral privileges to women as subordinates, to foster
male participation in our project. Indeed, one informant predicted that men would
be willing to talk to us "out of not narcissism, but duty." This same weapon of the
weak, we felt, might also shield our eventual ms.representations from suffering ret-
ribution in kind. Men might feel reluctant to "hit" women in public (or so we hoped),
and leftist men might afford feminists special purchase to speak without being retal-
iated against in print. What is more, in some respects our project seemed to empower
us to invert certain courtship rituals. Without waiting for Sadie Hawkins Day, we
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could take the initiative, deciding on whom we wished to bestow our ethnographic
attentions and whether or not to call again.
We were surprised, moreover, by the level of receptivity to our ethnographic
overtures. Although several men evinced an initial skittishness, we had a 100 per-
cent "accept" rate for the interviews we requested. Most of the cultural critics we
approached appeared enthusiastic, eager, at times explicitly grateful, to be asked. A
few even volunteered to "subject" themselves to our interrogations before we dared
to ask. Their eagerness to cooperate with our project appeared to overwhelm what-
ever legitimate anxieties they must have had about subjecting themselves to forms
of manipulation, violation, and betrayal that are inherent in ethnographic research
and to the ms.representations of their work and lives we would inevitably commit.
We had imagined that the ethnographic sophistication of our desired informants
would render them exceptionally wary of assuming the position of ethnographic
subject.
Speaking with the "Enemy"
Although these critical reflections on the politics and power relations that our
project involved had been carefully derived from current feminist and postrnod-
ernist models of knowing "others," they did not sit well with us in several ways. First
of all, the consistent focus of these models on unequal power prompted us to cate-
gorize our subjects primarily as "more powerful others," an identification that inter-
sected with the lingering influence of early white feminisms to cast Our publicly
confessed interest in alliance in a negative or at least suspect light. In the language
of some early feminist positions, "more powerful others," especially white "more
powerful others," often translated as "the enemy." In relation to "the enemy" our
more correct, and familiar, position as white feminists was not to fraternize, to expe-
rience pleasure (unless it was the pleasure of critique), or to seek alliance but to
engage in rigorous and often righteous criticism."
Our dutiful focus on unequal power, overlaid once again with the lingering influ-
ence of some early white feminist discourse, also prompted us to reduce the hetero-
sexual energies, which so clearly suffused our encounters, to their strategic uses. For
despite the fact that neither of us had ever ceased speaking with (or sleeping with)
"the enemy," the hold of early feminist discourses had prompted us to some public
reticence about both. Working both consciously and unconsciously within these con-
ceptual parameters, we found ourselves dutifully assessing the heterosexual plea-
sures of many interviews for their tendency to contaminate us further (by suggesting
that we actually enjoyed consorting with "the enemy," by suggesting that we had
engaged in this work out of pleasure rather than mere duty) or for their defensive
usefulness in providing us with "weapons of the weak."
Our work and alliances with feminist women, of course (and now our interviews
with the same), have always been suffused with pleasures of many sorts-sisterly
bonding, passionate friendship, erotic frisson, and the various pleasures of shared
3°0 JUDITH NEWTON AND JUDITli STACEY
meals, shared gossip, and shared jokes. We suspect, moreover, that successful politi-
cal alliances are as rooted in personal bonds and mutual pleasures as in agreements
over ideologies and goals. Still, confessing in print to our enjoyment of heterosexual
energies in our interviews with actual or potential male allies, whether our subjects
were white men or men of color, gay or heterosexual, alternatively prompted us to
engage in good-girl queasiness and bad-girl posturing and flouting. (We were not
equally positioned in this dialectic. One of us finds bad-girl posturing more conge-
nial than does the other.)
As we continued to conduct interviews, we found ourselves constructing our
encounters very differently in private than in our public talks (or in early drafts of
this paper). While unequal power relations clearly informed our ethnographic
encounters, our desire to study across, to be open, to take the position of potential
allies set up an uneasy tension with our official focus on unequal power. This ten-
sion, moreover, was significantly augmented by the collegiality and self-critical
spirit displayed by many of our subJects, not to mention the eagerness with which
rna;;;; regarded themselves as seeking alliance too. Although there is no discount-
ing the possibility that we are the ones "being snookered,' most of our subjects
appeared to treat the interviews as opportunities to respond seriously to feminist
criticism in ways that might restore their political credibility and build bridges to
feminist colleagues. Indeed, one subject began his interview by directly expressing
appreciation for the collegial commitments he read in our first work:
There were really important gestures made in the paper, I thought. that I found
very heartening, of moving beyond the feminist response to white male scholar-
ship of the late 70S and 80S . . . without forgoing the notion of critique, but sort
of changing the mode and the tone of the critique. And I thought. as some of us
who've been through some of the wars. I found that very encouraging. Very. . . .
At the same time it was significant to me that the gestures being made were com-
ing from feminists.
Alliance among "Others"
Our ethnographic encounters have suggested in several different ways that a
focus on unequal power, while essential in an ongoing way, is not a sufficient lens
through which to explore our relation to "others," most particularly in an age when
feminism and posrmodernisrn also call for alliance, and alliance specifically across
old relations of unequal power. As Wendy Brown asks, "What if it were possible
to incite a slight shift in the character of political expression and political claims
common to much politicized identity? What if we sought to supplant the language
of 'I am'-with its defensive closure on identity, its insistence on the fixity of posi-
tion, its equation of social with moral positioning-with the language of reflexive
'wanting'?" 24
Perhaps, without forgoing the concepts of "'position' and 'history' as that which
makes the speaking subject intelligible and locatable,"" without forgoing our mem-
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ory ofpast wounds and our critical apprehension ofcontinuing wrongs, without
refusing togive "discreditwhere discredit is due," we mightshift ourfocus some-
whatto include an exploration ofshared desires and potential projects." Perhaps,
we mightforgosomewhatthepracticeofwoundedmemoryin orderto taketherisk
ofmore forgetting and letting go. Perhaps, too, we might consciously enlarge our
critical apparatus for "knowing" "others" to include, and validate, the possible
intersection ofune ual power with alliance, comradeship, likeness,   and
Age andourethnographicencounters,at east, avemadeus moreawareof
how continuing conflict, recurring wounds, and missed opportunities are not the
soleproductionsofthemorepowerful.
We beganourprojectwithanunexaminedsenseofrectitudein respectto themale
others who have served most white feminist scholars, perhaps too facilely, as the
generalized objects ofoursuspicion. We are beginning to feel that the rectitude of
this particular, and privileged, subordinate (we do not generalize our analysis of
ourselvesas white,middle-class,heterosexualfeminists todifferentlyandmorerad-
icallysubordinatedgroups)canmakeessentializingimpulseseven moredifficult to
perceive andforgo thandoes the different rectitudeofpoliticallycommitted domi-
nants." We believe there is some truth to the presumption that the potential for
knowledge ofthe subordinate is structurallysuperior to that ofthe dominant, but
like every truth, it is only partial. When ms.representing these partially dominant
others, those at least with whom political alliance seems possible, white feminists
would do well to resist the self-indulgent snares of this partial truth. Reflexive
restraint,atleast,seemsourbesthopeif weareto transcendthepostmodernfix and
build critical alliances, with women and men ofcolor and with progressive white
mentoo,alliancespotentenoughtosurviveandsubvertthenewworlddisorder.
Notes
Wewishto thankRuth Behar,Debbie Gordon,BarbaraLaslett, Michael Rogin, Debby Rosen-
felt,and Patricia Turnerfor their commentson earlier drafts. After wehad titled thisessayand
presentedversions of itpublicly we learned thatfeminist graduatestudents inthe Department
ofEnglishat theUniversity ofCalifornia,Berkeley,had usedMs.representations asthe titlefor
aparodyofthe journalRepresentations which they issued informallyin 199I.
I. Judith Levine, MyEnemy,  MyLove:  Women,  Men  and  the  Dilemmas  of Gender  (New
York:Doubleday,1992.),2.35, suggests thatfrom 1971 until the mid-I980S"discussionof
men virtually disappeared" in feminist journalismand women'sstudies. Levine's account
isimpressionistic, but wedate our own focus on womenand our immersionincommuni-
tiesofwomen from the late 1970s.
2.. SeeGloria Anzaldua,Making Face, Making  Soul:  Haciendo  Caras: Creative and Critical 
Perspectives by  Women  ofColor (SanFrancisco: Aunt LuteFoundation,1990);bellhooks,
Yearning: Race,  Gender  and  Cultural  Politics  (Boston: South End Press, 1990); Sandra
Harding, Whose  Science?  Whose  Knowledge?  Thinking  from  Women's  Lives  (Ithaca,
N.Y.:Cornell University Press, 1991).
3· We are not the only feminists who read the genealogy of postrnodernisr feminism this 
way. See Meaghan Morris, The  Pirate's  Fiance:  Feminism,  Reading,  Postmodernism  
(London: Verso, 1988); Lila Abu-Lughod, Writing  Women's  Worlds:  Bedouin  Stories  
302.
JUDITH NEWTON AND JUDITH STACEY
(Berkeley:University of California Press, 1993); ChandraMohanty, "OnRace and Voice:
Challenges for Liberal Education in the 1990S," Cultural  Critique,  Winter 1990,
179-2.08.
4. For compatibleinitiativesseeHarding, Whose Science? 2.74;bellhooksand Cornel West,
Breaking  Bread: Insurgent  Black  Intellectual Life  (Boston:SouthEnd Press, 1991); Elazar
Barkan, "Fin de SiecleCultural Studies," Tikkun  8, no. 4 (July/August 1993): 49-51,
92.-93; Stanley Aronowitz, The  Politics  of Identity:  Class,  Culture,  Social  Movements 
(New York: Routledge, 1992.).
5. For a left-wing critique of political correctness on the left, see Barbara Epstein, "'Po-
litical Correctness' and Collective Powerlessness," Socialist  Review  2.1,nos. 3-4 (July-
December 1991): 13-35.Levinesuggests thatthe constructionof essentialiststereotypes
aboutmen had its rootsinthe expecrations,disappointments,terror, and rage of intimate
relationships. Women's ambivalence about men, therefore, our manhating and manlov-
ing, predated the second wave of the women's movement, where it intersected with and
complicatedfeminist analysis. SeeLevine,MyEnemy,  6, 14, 2.2.7, 396.
6. See,forexample,JudithNewton,"HistoricismsNew and Old: 'CharlesDickens'Encoun-
tersMarxism,Feminism, and 'West CoastFoucault,'''Feminist Studies  I 6(Summer 1990):
449-70; and Judith Stacey and Linda Collins, "Salvation or Emancipation? Reflections
on the Wright/Burawoy Exchange," Berkeley  Journal  of Sociology  34 (1989): 51-56.
While there isnothing inherent in textual criticism that necessitates this move, neither is
there anything in this method to impede it. Ethnographic and oral history methods are
more apt tocomplicatesuch acritical strategy.
7. Afeminist historian interviewed bySusan Krieger acknowledgesthis dynamic:
Although men  had  initially  brought my  use of 'we'  to  my  attention,  by  responding to 
it as exclusive,  it was easier for me  to see it as a problem when  the issue was  raised 
about exclusion of ethnic  minority women.  Ethnic minority women are the  center of 
the  work, and  that  exclusion was both  more  hidden  from  me  and  more  troubling.  The 
response  of the men  mostly made  me  mad.  Considering  the ethnic  minority women's 
issue made  me  want  to change  things. 
Here we are quotingnot the historian directly but Krieger's textually experimental, para-
phrased retelling ofthe interviewinSocial Science and  the Self: Personal Essays on an  Art 
Form (New Brunswick,N.J.: Rutgers University Press, 1991): 197-98.
8. Marcy Childers and bell hooks, "A ConversationaboutRace and Class," in Conflicts  in 
Feminism,  ed. MarianneHirschand EvelynFox Keller (New York: Routledge, 1990),63·
9. Tania Modleski, Feminism  without  Women:  Culture  and  Criticism  in  a  "Postfeminist" 
Age (New York: Routledge, 1991),6.
10. Ibid.
II. Morris, Pirate's  Fiance, discusses the feminist dilemma of the nagging text. Weseethese
modes as retaining some usefulness in feminist work. Certainly feminist politics should
continuetoemploy manygenres. Ourgoal inthisparticularethnographic,alliance-focused
project,however, was to move beyond these familiar modes for the reasonswedetail.
12..Our subjects engaged with race more than with gender in these instances, although the
raced "others" inquestionwere distantintime or space.
Ourlarger project deals with discourses of gender and race in the workand livesof men
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ofcoloraswellas ofwhite men. In the course ofworkingon this project,however, itwas
our assumptions about gender and about white men that came to seem to us the most
obviously skewed. (There is no assurance, of course, thatour initial assumptions about
race will prove to be any less vulnerable.) This paper focuses on gender discourses,
largely-though not entirely-asthey appear in the work and narratives of liberal and
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radical  white  men.  Subsequent  papers  will  focus  on  race  in  relation  to gender  discourse 
and on  the  comparative study of  white men  and men  of  color. 
[4.   We  do  not  wish  to  suggest,  of  course,  that  ethnographic  work  is  free  of  distortion,  but 
ethnographic  work,  especially  when  combined  with  the  textual,  can  range  over a  larger 
number  of  sites  than can  the  purely  textual.  The  "in-your-face"  nature  of  ethnographic 
investigation,  in  particular,  has  the  potential  to  unsettle  assumptions in  a  way  that purely 
textual work  may  not. 
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IS.  At  this  writing  we  have  conducted  in-depth  interviews  with  thirty  left-identified  male 
scholars in  the  humanities and social sciences.  Almost all  of  these  subjects do  interdiscipli-
nary  work  in  cultural  criticism.  Each  initial  interview  has  been  two  to  three  hours  long, 
and in  several cases we  have  conducted follow-up  interviews of  similar length. We  prepare 
for  each  interview  by  reading  selectively  from  the  subject's  work.  In  addition,  we  have 
conducted  numerous  ethnographic  "field  trips"  to  the  many  conferences  and  institutes 
frequented  by  our  subjects  and,  not  incidentally,  by  ourselves.  A  fuller  reading  of  these 
initial interviews in  relation  to  the  theme of  what Sandra Harding calls  "traitorous identi-
ties"  will  be  the  subject of  our next paper. 
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16.   The  assumption  here  that  gender  critique  ought  to  have  had  dramatic  "impact"  on  our 
white  male colleagues,  at  least,  seems to  be  a  reflex  of  our race,  class,  and sex  positions. 
That  is,  as  white,  middle-class,  heterosexual  women,  feminist  discourse,  the  "discovery" 
that we  were  subordinated too,  came  to  us  as  an  earth-shaking  revelation.  The  feminists 
of  color to  whom we  have  talked do  not report the  same sudden discovery of  their gender 
subordination. Their entries  into  gender critique seem  to  have  had  longer,  more  gradual 
histories. 
17.   Thus Kristina  Minister,  "A  Feminist  Frame for  the  Drat History  Interview,"  in  Women's
Words: The Feminist Practice of Oral History, ed.  Sherna Gluck  and  Daphne Patai  (New 
York:  Routledge,  1991),  27-41, suggests  how a  feminist  oral  history  frame  may  nurture 
and  assist  in  the  interpretation  of  stories  by  women  for  women.  Feminists  experiment-
ing  with  fieldwork  and  textual  strategies  include  Behar,  Translated Woman: Crossing the
Border with Esperanza's Story (Boston:  Beacon,  1933);  Abu-Lughod,  Writing Women's
Worlds; Trinh  Minh-ha,  Woman, Native, Other: Writing, Postcoloniality and Feminism
(Bloomington:  Indiana  University  Press,  1989); Karen  McCarthy  Brown,  Mama Lola: A 
Vodou Priestess in Brooklyn (Berkeley:  University  of  California  Press,  1991);  Dorinne 
Kondo,  Crafting Selves: Power, Gender and Discourses of Identity in a Japanese Work-
place (Chicago: University of Chicago Press,  1990); and Judith Stacey,  Brave New Families:
Stories of Domestic Upheaval in Late Twentieth Century America (New  York:  Basic 
Books,  1990).  Feminist critiques  of  ethnographic  practice  include  Kamala  Visweswaran, 
"Defining Feminist Ethnography,"  Inscriptions 3/4  (1988):  27-46; and  Deborah Gordon, 
"Writing  Culture, Writing  Feminism: The Poetics and  Politics of  Experimental  Ethnogra-
phy,"  I.B.D. (1988):  7-24;  Judith  Stacey,  "Can  There  Be  a  Feminist  Ethnography?" 
Women's Studies International Forum II (January  1988):  163 -82;  Lila  Abu-Lughod, 
"Can  There  Be  a  Feminist  Ethnography?"  Women and Performance 5,  no.  I (1990): 
7-27· 
18.   Here we make ironic use of the  title  of  a reactionary polemic against "political correctness" 
that  targeted  feminists  along  with  other  forms  of  cultural  studies.  See  Roger  Kimball, 
Tenured Radicals: How Politics Has Corrupted Our Higher Education (New York:  Harper 
&  Row,  1990). 
19.   For  feminist critiques of  the  pitfalls  of  Western  feminist  humanism, see  Gordon,  "Writing 
Culture"; Vicky  Kirby,  "Comment on  Mascia-Lees et  al.,"  Signs 16,  no.  2  (Winter  1991): 
394-400;  and  Aihwa  Ong,  "Colonialism  and  Modernity:  Feminist  Re-Presentations  of 
Women  in  Non-Western  Societies,"  Inscriptions 3/4  (1988):  79-93.  Marnia  Lazreg 
blends  a  critique  of  Western  feminist  imperialism  with  a  defense  of  a  humanist stance in 
"Feminism  and  Difference:  The  Perils  of  Writing  as  a  Woman  on  Women  in  Algeria," 
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Feminist Studies 14,  no.  I  (Spring  1988):  81 -107.  Likewise,  Abu-Lughod,  Wrtting
Women's Worlds, proposes adopting a  "tactical humanism,"  and  Nancy Scheper-Hughes 
defends the  limited  humanism  of  a  "good-enough ethnography"  in  Death without Weep-
ing: The Violence of Everyday Life in Brazil (Berkeley:  Universiry  of  California  Press, 
199 2). 
20.  Stacey,  "Can There Be a  Feminist Ethnography?" 
21.   The  term  is  particularly  identified  with  peasant studies.  See James Scott,  Weapons of the
Weak (New Haven, Conn.: Yale  Universiry Press,  1985). 
22.  See  Deborah  Tannen,  You Just Don't Understand: Women and Men in Conversation
(New  York:  William  Morrow,  1990),  esp.  chap.  3,  " 'Pur  Down That Paper  and  Talk  to 
Me!' Rapport-talk and Report-talk," and 236-37. Minister, on  the  other hand, makes the 
somewhat  contrary  claim  that  "the  standard  oral  history  frame-topic  selection  deter-
mined  by  interviewer  questions,  one  person  talking  at  a  time,  the  narrator  'taking  the 
floor'  with  referential  language  that  keeps  within  the  boundaries  of  selected  topics," 
imposes a  more masculine rhetorical  form  on  women. See her  "Feminist Frame,"  35· 
23.  Noting  that  the  women  interested  in  theory  or  postcolonial  discourse  have  been  more 
willing  to  overlook  the  sexism  and  racism  of  white  male  thinkers whose  work is deemed 
"important"  than  they  have  the  sexism  of  black  male  thinkers,  bell  hooks,  Yearning, 66,
calls  for  "complex critical  responses  to  wriring by men  even  if it  is sexist." 
24.  Wendy  Brown,  "Wounded  Attachments:  Late  Modern  Oppositional  Political  Forma-
tions,"  Political Theory (May  1993):  39°-4
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25.  Ibid., 407· 
~   Levine,  My  Enemy, 397·
27.  We  wish  to  underscore  our  awareness  that  the  particular  strategy  we  are  adopting  as 
white, middle-class,  heterosexual  feminists  in  relation  to  progressive  men  who are  poren-
tially  allies  is  not  necessarily  appropriate  for  others  in  different  relations  of  domination 
and  subordination.  All  such  relations  have  specific  histories  and  developments for  which 
we  would  not presume to  generalize these  reflections. 
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