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THE  PRESIDENT'S  PAGE 

By E.  E.  "Buck" Hilbert,  President 
EAA Antique/Classic Division 
THE  ANTIQUE  AND  CLASSIC  DIVISION  AT  OSHKOSH  '73 
The coming Convention will be our first full blown adventure for the Antique-Classic Di-
vision. We are gonna get our feet wet, for sure, on this one. We'd better. The lAC, Warbirds,
Rotary and Homebuilders are there with most of their plans already concrete. Here we come
draggin' up the rear, just barely able to hold our pants up, and the Convention is HERE!
EAA has promised the parking area, fencing and a tent, but from here on its our baby. We
are a Division, aI separate-entity, and all on our own!
In order, we need Parking, Registration, Security, a Sales Force, Activities (programs),
Judges, and most important, just plain grunts, guys and girls who will fill in wherever there
is need. That's where you and I come in ... I'm Chairman of all this. That means I get to do
all these things, myself, or I delegate some of it. Neat, huh? Now all I gotta do is delegate.
But who?
There's only one way to get the help. And that's to get some of you guys and girls away
from your "Fun and Games" and put you to work. I've got some feelers out, and I'll have a
much better idea as to what our guidelines will be after the Directors meeting this month,
but I do need help. Let's have a show of volunteers, you and you and you!
We need, especially, eight or ten or whatever we can get, to show up four or five days in
advance of the Convention time to act as nail benders, electricians, jack of all trades, and or-
ganizers. We'll spot the "johnnies", put up the fences, set up the forum and registration
facilities and do whatever else needs to be accomplished before the big event. It would be very
practical if these were camping types who could be right there closeby.
During the Convention we will need parking and more parking. An organized effort to in-
sure the Classics are where they belong, and the Antiques where they should be. The in-house
security will be necessary too to keep the airplanes out of reach of little pickie fingers and
crawlers.
Mter we register them, we'll need wing walkers ... and Acti vi ties Chairman ... and Forum
Programmers. This is where we indulge in Type Club meetings and discussions. All in all we
need everything. May we have some volunteers now, so we can plan accordingly.
After we hear from you we will put you on a team utilizing your specialty if possible.
(Photos by Dick Stouffer)
New EM Air Museum additions. Left, Curtiss Jenny. Right , Gene Chase's Church Midwing.
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VOLUME  1 - NUMBER  3  FEBRUARY  1973 
TABLE OF  CONTENTS 
Waco  ... Ask  Any  Pilot  .. . . . . . .. . .. .. . .. .. . . ... . . .. .... . . . . ..... . . . .. . .... . .. . .....  4 
Waco  Pot  Pourri  . . ..... .. .. .. ..... ... .... .. . ....... .... . .... ... . . . . . . ..... . . .. . . ..  6 
The  Wings  of  Windy . .. Sandy  Hudson  III  .. . .. . . .. . ...... .. . .. ... . ......... . . . ... ..  8 
Early  Marine  Aviation  .. . Bill  Hodges  . . . ... . . .. .. . .. . . . . .. .. . .. ..... . .. .. . . ... .. .. .  10 
Around  the  Antique-Classic  World  . ... . .... . . .. .. . . .... . . . . .. .. . . . ....... . . . . . . . .. .  12 
Among  Friends  . . ... ... ... . ........ . . .. ... .. . . .. . . .. .. . ... . .... . .. . . . ...... . ...... .  14 
How  To  Join  The  Antique-Classic  Division  . . . .. ... .. . . . . . . ... ...... .. . . .. .. . . .. . .. .  14 
Calendar  of  Events . ... . ..... .. .. .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  14 
ON  THE  COVER  .. . J . C.  Weber' s Waco  CUC-2, N  14625.  Photo  by Ted  Koston. 
EDITORIAL  STAFF 
Ed itor - Jack Cox 
Assistant  Editor - Golda Cox 
THE  VINTAGE  AIRPLANE  is owned  excl usively  by  Anti que  Classic  Ai rcraft , Inc.,  and  is  published  monthl y  at  Hal es  Corners,  Wis.  Second  Class  Permi t 
is pend ing  at  Hales  Corners Post  Office,  Hales  Corners,  Wis. 53130. Annual  membership of  the  Divisi on  is  $10.00  for  a  12  mont h  peri od  of  which  $7.00 
is  for  the  subscri ption  to  THE  VINTAGE  AI RPLANE.  All  Division  members  are  required  to  be  members  of  the  parent  organizat i on,  the  Experi mental 
Ai rcraft Association.  Membership  is  open  to all  who are  interested  in aviation. 
ANTIQUE  AND CLASSIC  DIVISION  OFFICERS --
PRESIDENT- VICE  PRESIDENT 
E. E. HILBERT  J.  R.  NIELANDER,  JR. 
8102  LEECH  RD.  P. O. BOX  2464 
UNION, ILLINOIS  60180  FT.  LAUDERDALE,  FLA.  33303 
SECRETARY  TREASURER 
RICHARD  WAGNER  NICK  REZICH 
BOX  181  4213  CENTERVILLE  RD. 
LYONS, WIS.  53148  ROCKFORD,  ILL.  61102 
DIVISION  EXECUTIVE  SECRETARY 
BONNIE  POBEREZNY,  EAA  HEADQUARTERS 
Postmaster: Send Form  3579 to Antique Classic Aircraft, Inc., Box 229, 
Hales Corners, Wisconsin  53130 
Copyright  ©  1973  Antique ClaSSic  Aircraft, Inc.  All  Rights  Reserved . 
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· .. ASK ANY PILOT
WACO ... now there's a name that's sure to start
an airplane conversation among aviation enthusiasts. So
much has been written about this famous lightplane
company and its many products that almost any pilot
has a Waco story to tell. And although Waco stopped
producing lightplanes early in World War II, this is by
no means an indication that the big biplanes are disap-
pearing from the aviation scene - the fact is, there are
more Wacos coming back into circulation everyday.
If you always admired Wacos and want to own,
restore and fly one - you are in luck because a com-
plete organizational set up exists for your activities. There
is a Waco Club, a Waco Newsletter, a Waco Fly-In,
parts and information are available, etc.
All this activitiy really centers around one super-
dedicated man - Ray Brandly of Dayton, Ohio. Years
ago, Ray had the foresight to purchase the remaining
parts and materials of the Waco Company and was also
able to obtain much of the company records. As presi-
dent of the Waco Club, he has shared this material and
information with fellow Waco enthusiasts ever since. His
own description of the club and what it has to offer fol-
lows:
THE NATIONAL WACO CLUB
Its Origin, Its Purpose and Activities
"The National Waco Club, organized at Ottumwa,
Iowa in 1958 at the annual AAA Fly-In by a group of
Waco owners from coast to coast has continued to func-
tion annually in and for the best interests of all Waco
owners, restorers and admirers, wherever they may be
located.
The sole purpose of the National Waco Club has al-
ways been to distribute spare parts, historical data, tech-
nical data and information and to help in any way that
(Ted Koston Photo)
would promote the flying of another Waco airplane. Since
1957, the entire remaining stock of spare parts, prints,
drawings, photos and sales records, formerly owned by
the Waco Aircraft Company, has been available to all
Waco owners and restorers through the National Waco
Club. Parts and information have been supplied to more
than three hundred restorations. A serial number is all
that is needed to trace any Waco ever built. We can then
supply the original registration number, the date ofmanu-
facture, date delivered to the Waco distributor, the
original purchaser, original sales price, original engine,
original instruments, original upholstery, original colors,
original weight and balance, etc. Many of the original
color schemes and paint chips are also available.
In July of 1959, the National Waco Club began the
sponsoring of an annual Waco Fly-In. It was later sug-
gested by several members that we hold a Waco Home-
coming Fly-In at the Waco Aircraft Company in Troy,
Ohio. The 1963, 1964, and 1965 Waco Fly-Ins were held
at the Waco Airport alongside the Waco factory in Troy,
Ohio and were some of the most memorable fly-ins for
the many who attended. This can no longer be done since
the Waco property was sold late in 1964 and the airport
closed after the summer of 1965. Beginning with the Me-
morial Day weekend of 1968, the National Waco Fly-In
has been held annually at Hamilton, Ohio. The location,
facilities and hospitality have been responsible in mak-
ing this one of the major fly-ins of recent years. Waco
owners and admirers have always been a friendly sort
and now are inviting all antique aircraft to participate
in this annual fly-in. The National Waco Club publishes
quarterly a newsletter, "WACO PILOT", formerly pub-
lished by the Waco Aircraft Company. All members
subscribing to WACO PILOT are entitled to receive the
annual Waco Calendar and many have found these calen-
dars serve as an excellent opportunity to collect good
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original photos of Waco airplanes, showing original con-
figuration and paint schemes.
From a mere forty members in 1958, the National
Waco Club continues to grow and now there are four
hundred fifty nine paid members. Although many have
sold their Wacos or lost interest through the past years,
replacement memberships continue to boost our mem-
bership roster and make Waco the largest "Type Club"
in existence today. Members who have been exceptionally
consistent in maintaining, flying and providing a good
home for one or more Waco airplanes, have been pre-
sented a Certificate of Merit signed by Clayton J . Bruk-
ner, founder and president of Waco Aircraft Company
through its entire existence. These certificates are usually
presented annually at each Waco Forum at Hamilton,
Ohio and at Oshkosh, Wisconsin."
If you want to join the National Waco Club, dues are
three dollars per year. Make your check payable to the
National Waco Club, 2650 West Alex.-Bellbrook Road,
Dayton, Ohio 45459.
Now, for the big Waco News. The countdown is al-
ready underway for the 1973 Waco Fly-In. The dates
are May 26, 27, and 28 - Memorial Day Weekend - and
the site is the Hamilton, Ohio Municipal Airport. Every-
one will want to be on hand on Saturday night, May 26
for the annual Waco meeting. Clayton Brukner, the Presi-
dent of the Waco Company through all its glory years,
will be the speaker and honored guest.
You don't have to own a Waco to attend or be a part
of the Club - you just have to WANT to own one . .. and
who doesn't??
RIGHT. (Ted Koston Photo)
Dick Jackson of Somersworth, N. H. owns this one-
and-only Waco "0". Built as an export fighter for South
American nations, this particular ai rcraft was the only
one sold to a civilian in the U. S.
BELOW. (Ted Koston Photo)
This is a typical scene you will be enjoying if you at-
tend the 1973 Waco Fly-In May 26-28 at Hamilton, Ohio.
WACO 
POT 
POURRI 
RIGHT. (Bob Lock Photo)
Bob Lock of Reedley, California is
restoring this Waco DOC-6, N16520.
Note that the steel tubing in this
fuselage is more extensive than in
the UIC above - the UIC aft fuse-
lage is half stringers and formers.
ABOVE. (Ted Koston Photo)
The fuselage of Dr. Bern Vocke's Waco UIC, NC13577.
Notice the tremendous amount of wood work i n the
fuselage.
LEFT. (Ted Koston Photo)
Dr. Vocke of Aurora, Illinois fits the door in his UIC.
Bern' s previous project was a Stearman that was an
award winner at every meet - so the Waco should be
a prize winner.
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RIGHT.  (Ted  Koston  Photo) 
W.  G.  " Bill "  Nutting  is  the 
proud  owner/ restorer  of  this 
Waco  SRE.  Powered  by  a  450-
hp  Pratt  and  Whitney,  the 
SRE  is  generally  considered  to 
be  the  cabin  Waco. 
BELOW.  (Ted  Koston  Photo) 
The  " front  office"  of  Bill 
Nutting' s SRE. 
RIGHT,  MIDDLE (Ted  Koston  Photo) 
Ralph  Driscoll  of  Mt.  Vernon,  Iowa  has  been  a  regular 
on  the  fly-in  circuit  for years  with  this  1928  Waco  GXE. 
BELOW.  (Ted  Koston  Photo) 
Power personified - the business 
end  of  Dick  Jackson' s  Waco  D. 
ABOVE.  (Ted  Koston  Photo) 
Built  in  1933  and  still  going  strong  is  this  Waco 
UIC owned by Ron  Fritz of Grand  Rapids, Michigan. 
A
WISTFUL 
LOOK 
BACKWARD 
AT A
PERKY 
LITTLE 
PIPER 
VAGABOND 
CALLED 
" WINDY"
THE  WINGS  OF  WINDY 
By Sanders V. "Sandy" Hudson III (EAA 30059)
141 A6 Broadmoor Lane
Winston-Salem, N. C. 27104
One of the most delightful of the 65 horsepower air-
planes, as far as I am concerned, is the Piper PA-15 or
PA-17 "Vagabond". I make this statement after having
flown various J-3's, Taylorcrafts, Aeroncas, and Lus-
combes.
From June 1967 to May 1968 I flew our Vagabond,
N4401H, some 140 hours. In addition, my father put
another 50 hours on N4401H during the same period.
Soon after I received my Private license in May 1967,
at the age of 18, my father began looking for an economi-
cal timebuilder for me to fly. After searching Trade-A-
Plane for several issues, we finally found the plane of our
choice. This plane was N4401H. We chose a Vagabond
for several reasons, the main ones being low initial
cost, low operating costs, and personal preference. Also,
we felt the short-coupled design and responsive controls
of the Vagabond would be good experience for possi-
ble future flights in small homebuilts.
In a matter of days after our selection, my father
was off for Merrill, Wisconsin, where he bought N4401H
from Mr. Roland Sherrif.
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Our Vagabond was a 1948 PA-15 with a 65-horse-
power Lycoming engine and rigid landing gear. N440-
1H's wingspan was only 29.3 feet (the same as the
Reed Clipped-Wing Cub), and her length was only 18.7
feet. She had been beautifully restored by Mr. Sherrif
in original colors, with large wheel pants and a "skull
cap" spinner, and she was as cute as a new pup. She be-
came ours on Saturday, June 24, 1967, with only a few
hundred hours in her logbook since new.
On June 25, my father pointed the nose of our new
toy South. Marginal ceiling and visibility at take-off
soon gave way to nearly perfect conditions, and my
father relates that this journey over t he glistening lakes
and dark green fields of Wisconsin was pr obably the
most beautiful flight in his more than 36 years of flying.
After a stop at Aurora, Illinois for gas and a short visit
with good friend Warren Hotchkiss, N4401H and her
pilot were off for Springfield, Ohio. On this leg, they
covered 271 straight-line miles in 3 hours and on 11 gal-
lons of fuel. On board was more than a Continental
A-40 engine in boxes.
After an overnight visit with the Bob Thompson's,
my father and our new plane left Springfield about 2:00
P.M. the next day. With one gas stop at the beautiful
London, Kentucky airport, they arrived at our home base
of Shiflet Field, Marion, North Carolina just before sun-
down. The average speed for the trip was 90 mph, with
an average fuel consumption of 3.7 gph.
So, N4401H had arrived at her new home, and, of
course, Ijust had to fl y her immediately! Therefore, with-
out refueling, and with darkness only a few moments
away, I hopped in, quickly circled the field, and landed
Sandy Hudson III
and "Wi ndy" .
from EAAer Chuck Woerner. Her roomy cockpit and
quiet engine made "Windy" a very comfortable cross-
country mount. Without a doubt, the Vagabond is the
most confortable of the 65 horsepower class. On these
cross-country flights, our Vagabond consistently averaged
87 mph on 3.5 to 3.7 gph, including climb out after take-
off. Top speed was approximately 100 mph.
"Windy" was the most perfectly balanced plane I
have ever flown. When trimmed for cruising in smooth
air, I have flown for 50 miles without touching the con-
trols. In the cruise configuration, I found that I could in-
duce a turn by leaning in the direction I wished to turn.
I could descend or climb in the same manner. How many
lightplanes can be flown this way? Rough air cruising
was a slightly different matter, however.
With the 65 Lycoming, take-off and climb per-
formance was not exactly spectacular, but as long as
the pilot took the low horsepower and short wings into
consideration, performance was quite adequate.
I have alreadymehfioned the Vagabond's responsive
controls briefly, but I think that I should now dwell on
this subject a little more. Without any doubt, the Vaga-
bond has the fastest roll rate of any airplane in the stock
65 horsepower class. I would estimate the rate of roll at
very close to 100 degrees per second. Absolutely fan-
tastic for this type plane! The rudder and elevator are
also very effective. The toe brakes are very good (at
least "Windy's" were), and they are indeed welcome on
hard surface crosswind landings.
These responsive controls invited much more than
just cross-country flying. I must confess that after going
to Rockford almost every year the EAA Fly-In was held
there (and even to Milwaukee way back when), and see-
ing the fantastic aerobatics exhibited, I, being a normal,
not-always-too-careful teenager, was soon enjoying
some, shall we say, "unusual" attitudes in "Windy".
I soon found that "Windy" would almost bite her
own tail in a loop. The stall resistant design of the Vaga-
before finally tying our new addition down for the night.
At the time of our purchase of N4401H, I had only
70 hours of flying time in 13 different types of light planes
and gliders, with 9 hours in another Vagabond.
In the next few months, N4401H became almost a
member of the family. My fiancee (now my wife), Linda,
and I soon nicknamed the plane "Windy" after the song
by the Associations, which was popular at the time.
"Windy" was used for cross-country flights all over the
Carolinas and Tennessee, plus a flight to Dayton, Ohio,
and another trip to Geneva, Ohio to pick up a plane
bond series made a spin or snap roll virtually impossible,
so I stayed away from those maneuvers. I enjoyed roll-
ing from one steep turn to another, and this was my most
frequent maneuver. Lazy eights were very easily ac-
complished, almost effortless. Although "Windy" held
together with me, and although the wing is approxi-
mately the same as the wing of a Clipped-Wing Cub, I
definitely do not recommend aerobatics in a Vagabond.
In addition to cross-country flights and extremely
amateur aerobatics, "Windy" was also used for carry-
ing many friends for scenic hops, and many of these left
the earth for the first time supported by "Windy's"
wings. My father took an 87-year-old man for his first
airplane ride in "Windy".
If I tried to record all my experiences in "Windy",
this article would be a near-book, but I can sum all these
experiences up by saying that I enjoyed and learned
something from every flight!
When looking for a plane in the 65 horsepower class,
be sure to consider the Vagabond. When modified with
an 85-horsepower Continental engine, as many Vaga-
bonds are, the only real drawback of the Vagabond,
limited power, becomes easily solved. The dual con-
trols and non-rigid landing gear of the PA-17 make it
more desirable for training than the earlier PA-15.
This sturdy ancestor of the Clipper, Pacer, Tri-Pacer,
and Colt will provide many hours of pleasurable and
valuable experience for the least possible cost.
Once you get your hands on a Vagabond, you will
find it very hard to part with it. My whole family had
misty eyes when we said good-bye to "Windy". She is
probably still bringing enjoyable flying to her new owner,
and, like all her 65 horsepower contemporaries, she is
providing economical, reliable good times to all those who
love flying.
A very good article on the Vagabond series airplanes
can be found in the January 1961 SPORT AVIATION
by Mr. H. W. Borbridge.
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EARLY  MARINE  AVIATION 
By Bill Hodges
United  States  Marine  Corps  aviation  was  our  only 
air  service  to  have  combat  experience  in  the  22  years 
preceding  World  War  II.  The  Corps  performed  opera-
tional  combat  duties  in  China  (1927-1929),  Haiti  (1919-
1921,  1929),  Nicaragua  (1927-1933)  and  the  Dominican 
Republic  (1919-1922). 
The  first  Marine  aviator  was  Lt.  Alfred  A. Cunning-
ham.  Cunningham  reported  for  flight  training  at  the 
Naval  Aviation  Camp,  Annapolis,  Maryland,  May  22, 
1912.  His  actual  flight  training  was  accomplished  at 
the  Burgess-Curtiss  air  factory  in  Marblehead,  Mas-
sachusetts.  Cunningham  soloed  from  the  waters  of  the 
bay  on  August  1,  1912,  after  2  hours  40  minutes  of dual 
time. 
On  January  6,  1914,  two  1911  Curtiss  E-l  (also 
known  as  A-2,  O.W.L.  and  AX-I)  seaplanes  were  as-
signed  to  the  Corps.  In  1916  when  the  Marine  Aviation 
Company  was  authorized,  there  were  five  officers  and 
eight  enlisted  men  with  aviation  experience.  Thus,  the 
Corps  formally  took  to  the air after nearly a  century and 
a  half of fighting  on  land  and  sea.  The  duty  assignment 
was with either the Advance Base Force or expeditionary 
troops. 
The  Corps  served  with  distinction  during  World 
War  I  with  Marine  airmen  having  shot  down  12  enemy 
planes  with  a  loss  of  4  dead.  They  made  five  supply 
drops  and  dropped  57,000  pounds  of  bombs  on  57  mis-
sions.  Second  Lieutenant  Ralph  Talbot  and  Gy/Sgt. 
Robert  Robinson  were  awarded  the  congressional  Medal 
of  Honor  for  shooting  down  two  enemy  planes  against 
overwhelming odds  while on  a  mission  in  their  DeHavil-
land  DH-4.  Statistics show  that at the end of World  War 
I,  there  were  280  officers,  2,200  enlisted  men  and  340 
aircraft on  strength. 
As  naval  tactics  changed,  it  became  necessary  for 
the  Marine  aviation  tactics  to  change  also.  From  1931 
to 1934  VS-14M  and  VS-15M,  the  first  Corps  squad-
rons  to  become  part  of  the  fleet  air  arm,  served  aboard 
the  aircraft  carriers  Saratoga  and  Lexington.  During 
this  period,  VS-14M  was  equipped  with  Vought  02U-
2's  and  SU-l's;  VS-15M  was  equipped  with  Vought  SU-
2's and -3's. 
With  the  establishment  of  the  Fleet  Marine  Force 
in  1933,  the  Corps'  primary  air  function  has  been  that 
of air support for  amphibious landings. 
On  June  30,  1939,  210  officers  and  1142  enlisted 
men were on active duty with  Marine Aviation.  Eighteen 
months  prior  to  Pearl Harbor  the  Marine  air  arm  began 
to  concentrate  its  wealth  of tactical  experience  on  train-
ing  and  maneuvers  with  the  infantry  and  the  fleet.  The 
reserve  squadrons  played  an  important  part at this  time 
in  the  training  of new  personnel,  as  the  war  clouds  once 
again loomed on  the  horizon. 
The  condition  of  the  Fleet  Marine  Force,  just  prior 
to  World  War II  was as  follows: 
USMC  AIRCRAFT  STATUS  AS  OF OCTOBER  1941 
The  organization  of  the  Corps  flying  units  at  this 
time comprised the following  organizations: 
Commanding  General,  First  Division,  Fleet  Marine 
Force 
First Wing 
Marine Air Group  Eleven,  Quantico 
VMSB-131 
VMSB-132 
VMF-111 
VMF-121 
VMJ-152 
VMO-151 
BAD-l 
Command  General,  Second  Division,  Fleet  Marine 
Force 
Second  Wing 
Marine  Air  Group  Twenty-one,  EWA,  Territory  of 
Hawaii 
VMSB-231 
VMSB-232 
VMJ-252 
VMF-211 
VMF-221 
Charlotte  Amalie,  St.  Thomas,  Virgin Islands 
VMS-3 
Parris  Island, South  Carolina 
Air Detachment 
Marine  Base,  Naval  Air  Station,  San  Diego,  Cali-
fornia 
BAD-2 
Aircraft  assigned  to  these  organizations  were  in  the 
following  categories; 
Beech  JRB-2  "Expeditor"  (C-45A)  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  2 
Brewster  F2A-2  "Buffalo" . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  3 
Brewster  F2A-3  "Buffalo" . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  11 
Curtiss  X5BC-4  .. ................. . ... . .. .. . . ...  1 
Curtiss  SBC-4  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  16 
Douglas  R2D-l  (DC-2)  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  1 
Douglas  R3D-2  (DC-5)  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  4 
Douglas  SBD-l  "Dauntless"  (A-24)  . . . . . . . . . . . . . ..  46 
Grumman  FF-2  .................................  2 
Grumman  F3F-2  .... ............ .... ..... . ......  16 
Grumman  F4F-3  "Wildcat"  ......... . .. . ........ .  41 
Grumman  F4F-3A  "Wildcat"  .......... . " . . . . . . . . .  16 
Grumman  JF-1  "Duck"  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  1 
Grumman  J2F-1  "Duck"  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  2 
Grumman  J2F-2A  "Duck"  . . . ..... ... ... .. .. .. . ..  9 
Grumman  J2F-4  "Duck"  .........................  6 
Grumman  JRF-IA  "Goose"  .... ..... ........ .. . . .  1 
Grumman  JRF-4  "Goose"  . , . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  1 
Lockheed  JO-2  "Electra,  Jr."  (12A)  ..... ........ .  3 
North  American  SNJ-2  "Texan"  (BC-IA)  ... .... . .  3 
North  American  SNJ-3  "Texan"  (AT-6A)  ... . . .. . .  6 
Sikorsky  JRS-l  (S-43)  ...........................  1 
Vought  SU-2  . . . . . ... . . .. . . .. ... . ... . ... . .. . . . . . .  2 
Vought  SB2U-3  "Vindicator" . .. .. .. . ... . ... . .. . . .  52 
Total  246 
REFERENCES: 
Marine  Corps  Aircraft,  1913-1965,  Revised  1967: 
U.S.M.C. 
Devilbirds: John A.  DeChant 
U.  S.  Marine  Corps  Aircraft,  1914-1959:  William  T. 
Larkins 
1st Sgt.  John A.  Poynor,  U.S.M.C.R.,  Ret. 
Naval Aviation  News,  Sept.  1961 
This  article  was  prepared  out  of  my  respect  for  1st 
Sgt.  John  A. Poynor,  U.s.M.C.R.,  Ret.,  a  member  of 
VO-I0MR,  who  supplied the accompanying  photos. 
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ABOVE.
BELOW.
VMS-2 in 1936. The aircraft
Observation Squadron 10 at the Naval
are Curtiss OZC-1 Helldivers. Reserve Aviation Base in Oakland in 1934.
AROUND  THE  ANTIQUE/ CLASSIC  WORLD 
FLORIDA  FL V-IN/ 
ORGANIZATIONAL 
MEETING 
By Duffy Thompson
Rt.  6,  Box  70 
Lakeland, Florida  33801 
On  the  weekend  of  January  19-21  a  hundred  and 
forty-four  antiquers  and  friends  gathered  in  Lakeland, 
Florida  to  develop  a  new  concept  in  the  organizational 
structure of sport aviation. 
After  two  days  and  two  nights  of  discussion,  Paul 
Poberezny,  EAA  President,  Antique/Classic  Division 
President  Buck  Hilbert,  Vice-President  J.  R.  Nielander, 
Jr.,  Secretary  Dick  Wagner,  Dave  Jameson,  Vice-Presi-
dent  of the  EAA  Air  Museum  Foundation,  and  the  tem-
porary  officer  of  the  Florida  organization  came  up  with 
the  idea  of  the  Florida  Sport  Aviation  Antique/Classic 
Association. 
The  group  will  be  a  State  Association  whose  pur-
pose  is to give leadership in the restoration and preserva-
tion  of antique  and  classic  airplanes  and  the  enjoyment 
of  flying  them  through  participation  in  sport  aviation 
(EAA)  and by: 
l. Organizing  state-wide  flying  events  for  members 
and others who  love  old  airplanes. 
2.  Disseminating information to  the members. 
3.  Being  active  in  state  legislative  matters  which 
effect the members,  their aircraft and their airports. 
4.  Encourage  and  assist  in  the  formation  of  local 
chapters  of  the  Antique/Classic  Division  so  that  the 
state association may grow  and become  more  effective. 
5.  Provide  an organization  and  activities  for  Antique/ 
Classic  oriented  EAA  Chapter  members  throughout  the 
state. 
Paul  Poberezny  said  that  this  new  association,  with 
strong  leadership  from  throughout  the  state,  will  be-
come  a  vital,  moving  force  in  the  world  of antiques  and 
sport aviation.  As  a  state association  it can  stand up and 
be  heard. 
Temporary officers are: 
President: 
James A.  McClanahan 
2116  Cordova  Circle 
Lakeland,  Fla.  33803 
Secretary/Treasurer: 
W.  D.  Thompson 
Rt.  6,  Box  70 
Lakeland,  Fla.  33801 
Vice-President: 
George  R.  O'Neal 
4750  Cove  Circle 505 
St.  Petersburg, Fla.  33716 
Chaplain: 
Olin  Longcoy 
Rt.  3, Box  398 
Orlando,  Fla. 
Organizational  steps  are  expected  to  be  completed 
by  March  30, 1973. 
(Buck Hilbert Photo)
EAA President Paul Poberezny, cen-
ter, showing plans of the Acro Sport.
(BuCk Hi l bert Photo)
Hank Palmer of St. Petersburg, Florida flew in his mag-
nificent Curtiss Wright Fledgling (N271 Y, Ser. No. 8-
52) for the Lakeland Fly-In.
(Buck Hilbert Photo)
Ted Voorhees in his high performance Waco SRE.
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(Buck Hilbert Photo)
Left to right, Dick Wagner, Buck Hilbert, Jim McClana-
han, Paul Poberezny, Duffy Thompson, and Norm Tay-
lor - in front of Joe Araldi 's Waco VKS-7.
(Buck Hilbert Photo)
Richard Bach and his radial en-
gined Grumman Widgeon - a beauty.
(Buck Hilbert Photo)
Lakeland, Florida Airport, site of the 1973 An-
tique-Classic Fly-In, from Ted Voorhees' SRE Waco.
(Buck Hilbert Photo)
Jack Boedecker of Dawson,
Georgia in his Fairchild PT-19.
FAIRCHILD CLUB OF AMERICA
Open to all owners of Kreider-Reisner, Fairchild,
and PT-19-23-26 aircraft, including Pilgrim Aircraft.
Dues including subscription to newsletter. The Fairchild
Flyer, $2.00 per year. All correspondence to the editor
and secretary: D. L. Coleman, M. D., 4308 Palahinu
Place, Honolulu, Hawaii 96818.
JUNKERS F-13 RESTORATION
Scandinavian Airlines (SAS) has restored an ex-
tremely rare Junkers F-13 at Arlanda International Air-
port. This word (and picture) from Hans Reichenberg,
President, of the Action Committee for the Preserva-
tion of Historical Aircraft and Equipment in Sweden.
Karlavagen 68/1, S-114 59 Stockholm, Sweden.
LE RHONE ROTARY FOR SALE
If you need a rebuildable Le Rhone rotary, contact
Dave Davidson, P. O. Box 487, Heber Springs, Arkansas
72543 (501-362-5373 after 5:30 p.m.).
DID YOU KNOW??
... that FAA has a Curtiss-Wright T-32-C "Con-
dor" on its current Civil Aircraft Registration List? The
Condor is registered as N12363 and its owner is Richard
D. Neumann, 18616 Saticoy St., Reseda, Calif. 91355.
BROWN RACER PLANS
If you saw the article on Bill Turner's beautiful repli-
ca of the Brown racer "Miss Los Angeles" in the No-
vember 1972 issue of SPORT AVIATION .. . and if
you are interested in such things, you will be glad to
learn that copies of the original Brown shop drawings
for both the B-1 and B-2 are available from Gordon
Codding, 4572 West 147th Street, Lawndale, Calif.
90260. Gordon also has copies of original drawings for
the Curtiss JN4D, Nieuport 27, SE5-A, Sopwith Camel,
Sopwith Pup, Spad 7 and 13, and the Thomas-Morse
S4C - and a couple of pages of others. Write Gordon
for his listing.
ANTIQUE DISPOSITIONS
Dick Austin of Greensboro, N. C. and the Carolinas-
Virginia Chapter took his Clipwing Monocoupe, N15E,
to the Great Miami Air Race - and came home air-
planeless! It seems someone made him an offer he
couldn't refuse. Before the week was over, however,
Richard was again the owner of a rare, highly desirable
antique airplane. Somehow he talked Dolph Overton,
owner of Wings and Wheels in Santee, S. C., into
selling his 1939 Waco ARE, N20953. This is the only
ARE currently carried on the FAA registry and we hope
to have pictures and some background info in a future
issue of The Vintage Airplane.
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AMONG  FRIENDS 
Dear Jack:
Hope you and Golda survived the new year.
Dear Jack :
Dear Jack and Buck :
I spent " New Years Eve" at Santee, S. C.
Went over to the lake fishing - had great
luck. Went in the museum , naturally'
Went in Dave Allyn ' s Dolphin Aviation Mu-
seum in Sarasota the other day. He has a real
live Fokker D-7 with two Spandaus and Mer·
cedes engine; has to be rebuilt but has fab·
ric on it right now (not original) .
Please sign me up for the Antique-Classic
Division of EAA. Also would you please send
me the January and February issues - I'll
send you the additional money if you ' lI let
me know.
My Cessna C-34 Airmaster is about fin-
I just received the second issue of The
Vintage Airplane and it looks great. With
another five or six months of publication be-
fore the Fly-In , it can' t help but stimulate
added interest and activity within the Antique-
Classic ranks.
As soon as the spring weather will permit ,
and we can get all of the ai rcraft outside here
at the Rochester museum, I hope to photo-
graph the aircraft and do an article for " The
Vintage Airplane" on the collection and our
activities here. You might be interested to
know that 'Dick Jackson bough!. and he and I
went down to Fayetteville, North Carolina,
I enjoyed the January ' 73 issue of The Vin-
tage Ai rplane and the articles on the Fleet.
A guest at our Chapter 62 meeting last
night said he once owned N607M.
Sometime back a Charlie Roeschen, who
said he owned a 1930 Phillips Fleet-7, was
talking to me. Since I didn' t notice such an
airplane listed in your Fleet article I thought
you might be interested in this airplane. He
said it was powered by a Glenn L. Martin in-
verted 4. He had three spare engines and at
that time (sometime in the past year) was
trying to sell the package for $4850.
His address was 3837 Willow Pass Road .
ished . Have to make a cowl and wheel pants
and windshield . Hope to make it to the fly-
a couple of weeks before Christmas and
brought back Dr. Garber' s two antiques: the
Concord,
9506.
Cal. 94520. Telephone 415-687-
in this year.
Give my best to the gang and especially
CurtiSS " Junior" and
dismantled them and
the C-3 Aeronca. We
loaded them into a U-
The aircraft
at th at time.
was based at Antioch airport
Golda.
Sincerely,
Dr. Roy C. Wicker
1293 Peachtree St " N. E.
Haul van and then proceeded to drive non-
stop to Rochester, N. H. The Junior is once
again assembled and flying, but as yet we
have not reassembled the C-3, primarily be-
I just thought I would pass this information
on to you since I didn't see the aircraft listed .
thinking you might like to research it a little
further.
Atlanta. Ga. 30309
Gentlemen :
I have an engine used to run a standby
generator - it has no identification plate but
cause of lack of space. It will be flying by
spring however.
If I can be of any help with the Antique-
Classic activities (other than at Oshkosh) .
please let me know.
Since we appear to be going into the An -
tique airplane business with our restora-
tion of the Culver Cadet , enclosed is a check
for $10 for membership in the Antique and
Classic Division.
I believe it i s about a 36 hp 5 cylinder radial
Lawrence engine. Could you tell me where
I might write for information on parts and
Sincerely,
Bob Ring
East Kingston, N. H.
Warm regards ,
R. M. " Bob" Puryear
10 Arastracfero Rd.
manuals?
Very tru Iy you rs,
Donald E. Sargent
Small Engine Service
Dear Golda and Jack :
Congratulations on The Vintage Airplane
I received my issue and really was pleased
with what I saw.
Portola Valley, Cal. 94025
Rt. 85. Hudson Rd.
Bolton. Mass. 01740
Sincerely.
Bob Heuer, President
International Aerobatic Club
HOW TO  JOIN  THE  ANTIQUE-
CLASSIC  DIVISION 
Membership in the EAA Antique-Classic Division is open to all EAA members who have a special
interest in the older aircraft that are a proud part of our aviation heritage_ Membership in the An-
tique-Classic Division is $10,00 per year which entitles one to 12 issues of The Vintage Airplane pub-
lished monthly at EAA Headquarters, Each member will also receive a special Antique-Classic mem-
bership card plus one additional card for one's spouse or other designated family member,
Membership in EAA is $15.00 per year which includes 12 issues of SPORT A VIATION. All
membership correspondence should be addressed to: EAA, Box 229, Hales Corners, Wisconsin 53130.
CALENDAR  OF  EVENTS 
MAY 26-28 - HAMILTON. OHIO - National Waco Fly-In. Hamilton.
Ohio Airport. Banquet on Saturday night featuring Clayton Bruk-
MAY 4-6 - SANTEE, SOUTH CAROLINA - 5th Annual Spring Fly-In ner, President of the Waco Company, as guest speaker . Contact:
of Carolinas-Virginia EANAntique-Classic Chapter 395. Wings and National Waco Club, 2650 W. Alex .-Bellbrook Rd" Dayton. Ohio
Wheels Museum-Airport . Contact : Morton Lester . Box 3747. Mar-
45459.
tinsville, Va. 241 12 JUNE 1-3 - MERCED. CALIFORNIA - Annual Fly-In . Contact : An-
MAY 4-6 - PASO ROBLES. CALIFORNIA - 3rd Ryan SC. St. PT tique Fly-In , P. O. Box 2312. Merced . Calif. 95340.
Fly-In. Contact: T. D. Strum. 1570 Kensington Ci rcle. Los Altos.
JUNE 8-10 - DENTON. TEXAS - Denton Municipal Ai rport. 11th
Cal. 94022- Rai n Date : May 11-13. Annual Texas Antique Fly-In. Everyone welcome. Texas hospi tality
MAY 18-20 - WATSONVILLE, CALIFORNIA - Annual Fly-In. assured. Contact : Jack Winthrop. 3536 Whitehall Dr " Dallas. Texas
MAY 18-20 - CALLAWAY GARDENS. GEORGIA - Eastern 195 An -
75229.
nual Meeting . Business meeting followed by maintenance semi-
JULY 29-AUGUST 4 - OSHKOSH. WISCONSIN - 21 st Annual EAA
nar. Family type affair . Contact : Bill Terrell. M. D . Rt. 2. Box 380.
International Fly-In Convention. Complete program and awards
Hillsboro. Ohio 45133. (513) 393-4454.
for antique and classic aircraft. World 's greatest aviation event .
MAY 25-28 - TULLAHOMA. TENNESSEE - Staggerwing Fly-In.
AUGUST 10-12 - ARLINGTON, WASHINGTON - EAA/Antique Fly-
Contact : W. E. " Dub" Yarbrough!. Lannon Mfg" Box 500. Tulla- In. Contact: Dick Baxter. 15845 8th N. E" Seattle. Wash. 98155.
homa, Tenn. 37388. Phone 206/EM5-1657.
MAY 25-28 - GILBERTSVILLE, KENTUCKY - National '73 Swift
SEPTEMBER 28-30 - GASTONIA. NORTH CAROLINA - Gastonia
Association Fly-In. Contact : Charlie Nelson, Sw,ft Assoc,ation, Municipal Airport . Carolinas-Virginia Chapter 395 Annual Fall
Inc., Box 644, Athens, Tenn. 37303. Fly-In. Contact Morton Lester (see address above).
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free  of  charge.  Includes  a  listing  of  all  available  back  issues  of  Sport 
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- A distinctive,  colorful  emblem. $1 .50  each 
EAA  Caps - men  and  ladies.  Specify small , medium,  large, 
or extra  large.  Ladies, one  size. $2.25  each 
1973  EAA  Calendar.  Made  of heavy, unbleached  cloth. 
Features  full  color renditions  of a  Standard  J-1 , 
P-51 , Scorpion  Helicopter,  and  a Dyke  Delta. $2.30  each 
EAA  Flight  Bags.  Durable nylon  with  waterproof lining.  Blue 
with  EAA decal  on  both  sides.  $4.50 each 
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CLASSIC  ENTHUSIASTS AND/OR  RESTORERS 
Wood .  Vol .  1  .  $2.00 
Wood.  Vol .  2  $2.50 
Sheet  Metal .  Vol.  1  ....... . .  $2.50 
Sheet  Metal .  Vol.  2  $2.50 
Tips  on  Fat igue  $2.50 
Welding  $2.00 
Dope  and  Fabric  $2.50 
Hand  Tools.  Vol.  $2.50 
Hand  Tools.  Vol.  2  . .. . . .. . .  $2.50 
CAM  18  (Repri nt)  $3.00 
CAM  107  (Reprint)  ...... .. .  $4.00 
Flying  and  Glider  Manual  Reprints  . 
1929. ..  . ....... .  $2.00 
1932 ..  $2.00 
1929-32 .  $2.00 
'" Add  30c  postage  for  f irst  manual  plus  10c 
for  each  additional  one 
Wings  Of  Memory  - 72  pages  of  Aero  Digest  reprint s.  Covers  the  greats  of  civil 
aviation  from  1932  to  1941 .  Ryan  STA,  Howard  DGA-9.  Fairchild  24,  Cessna  Air-
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80, and  many  more.  Beautiful  photos,  3-views  and  flight  reports. $2.50 
Golden  Age  Of  Air  Racing  - 168  pages  covering  the  great  1929-1939  air  racing 
era.  All  about  the  racers  and  their  pilots  who  flew  for  the  Bendix,  Thompson, 
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proud  to  display  in  your  home  or  office.  These  certificates  are  free,  courtesy  of  EAA  to  recognize 
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