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December 1997 Vol. 25, No. 12
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2 AlC News
4 Aeromail
5 AlC Volunteers/Trish Dorlac
10 What Our Members
Are RestoringiNorm Petersen
22 1998 Type Club List
Page 19
26 Pass ItTo BucklE.E. "Buck" Hilbert
13 The Buhl Sport Airsedan
!H.G. Frautschy
19 More EAA Oshkosh '97
21 Mystery Plane!H.G. Frautschy
28 Welcome New Members
29 Membership Information/Calendar
32 Antique/Classic Merchandise
FRONTCOVER. ,,Theonlyflying BuhlCA-3D/ESportAirsedanis pi lotedover
easternMinnesotabyretiredNorthwestAirlinesCaptainHarryThibault,This is
enginein 1930,The Buhlis ownedbyGregHerrick'sYellowstoneAviationand
is partoftheGoldenWingsFlyingMuseum,EAAphotobyJimKoepnick.shot
witha CanonEOS-ln equippedwithan80-200mmlens, 1/250sec, @ fllon
BACKCOVER,,,-FourHoursOut"is GlenWinterscheidt'soilpaintingthatwas
winner. aswellasthejudge'schoiceasthewinnerofthethemeaward.
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compiled by H.G. Frautschy
GlenWinterscheidt'soi lpainting"Four
sicthemewinnerin thi s years Sport
AviationArtCompetiti on. Here'swhat
Glenhadto sayregardingthesubject:
"The Pan American Airwaysflights
to the Orient in these magnificent Boe-
ing flying boats represented great
adventure to a farm boy from Kansas
back in the 1930's. This truly was The
Golden Age ofAviation. "During my
service in the Navy, we flew PBM's
from San Diego to Japan, (wit h four
stops en route) reinforcing myappreci-
ation for these transpacific pioneers. "
Always interested in drawing
airplanesandotherforms oftransporta-
tion, Glen spentfive yearsasa PBM
pilot. Thenhe returnedto schoolto be-
comean automobiledesigner(stylist).
Hespent32 years in autodesignwith
GeneralMotors,retiring in 1989. Here-
turnedto SanDiegoafterhisretirement.
"FourHoursOut" has been soldto a
privatecollector, butyoucancontact
Glenregardinghis paintingsbywriting
him at 5738 Del Cerro Blvd., San
Diego,CA. 92120.
In ceremonies held during the fall Board of
Directors meeting, our two individuals selected as
the "Volunteers of the Year" were presented with
their recognitions plaques. Shown with Directors
Geoff Robison (left) and Vice-President George
Daubner (far right) are Earl Nicholas (right), our
" Behind the Scenes Volunteer of the Year, " honored
for his work with the A/ C Aerogram, and Randy
Hytry (above), our " Flightllne Volunteer of the Year. "
Congratulations to both men!
One of the winter projects under way In the EAA Air Adventure Museum shop Is the restoration of a
Consolidated PT-3, the primary trainer that was In use by the U. S. military until it was replaced by the
Stearman In the late 1930s. Under the direction of EAA Founder and President Paul Poberezny and lead
mechanic Gary Buettner (above, working on the new upper wing center section) , the project should be
completed by the spring of '98, but there are a few items needed to complete the restoration. First, a
Hamilton Standard 5404 Hub is needed, or, if possible, a complete Ham Standard prop, model Nos.
5006/ SB1.o or J-5404.
Also needed are a pair of bucket style airplane seats, similar to the ones used In the Waco UPF-7. The
exact model is not critical, but it Is desirable that both seats match.
If you can supply the above items for use In the restoration of the PT-3, which will be used for flight dis-
plays at EAA's Pioneer Airport, please contact Gary Buettner via Gordy Selke's phone number at EAA's
Cessna Restoration Center, 920/4264854.
EAAhasalwaysbeenrecognizedas a
Antique/Classic member,toaccessthe
manyprogramsandbenefitsavai lableto
youwith yourEAAand Antique/Clas-
sicmembership, we'veaddeda
sureyou'llfind ithelpful!
Increasedcostsinvolved in
sendingEAAmagazinesto for-
eign addressesrequiresus to
revisethechargewemustaddto Divi-
sionmembership.EffectiveJanuary 1,
1998 thecostforforeign postagewill
Ifyou'realreadyan EAA member,the
costforforeign membershipin theAn-
It has beenabusytimefor theEAA
Government Affairsoffice! EAAhas
Hartzell Propeller proposed AD
HA-A2V20-1B propellerswithalu-
minum blades, as we ll asdraftinga
responseto theproposalbytheFAAto
the wingsofAeronca, Champion
WithintheAntique/ Classic
fects theTwinBonanzathe most
severely. Whileunderstanding
the needfortheAD, EAAbe-
the requirementformandatory
inspections every 60 months, since the
data presented by the manufacturer and
the FAA does not substantiate an in-
spection requirement based on calendar
time. Time in Service (TIS) hours are
sufficient to ensure the safety of the
product. Since the cracks found have
been the result of TIS , and not time
spent in storage, it seems logical that
only those parts undergoing fatigue cy-
cles should require this inspection.
Also, the need for a magnetic parti-
cle inspection every 250 hours is not
warranted based on the data presented.
Out of 40,000 hubs produced, only five
hubs have exhibited the problem of an
insufficient blade retention radius on
the HC-8 series hubs. EAA believes
that initial inspection, and then a repeti-
tive inspection corresponding with the
blade and blade clamp retention inspec-
tions (every 500 hours) would be
Docket No. 97 -CE-79-AD proposes
to adopt a new airworthiness directive
(AD) that would apply to American
Champion Aircraft Corporation (ACAC)
7,8, and 11 series airplanes, excluding
Model 8GCBC airplanes. The Federal
A viation Administration (FAA) previ-
ously proposed similar AD action for
the ACAC Model 8GCBC airplanes.
EAA is in the process of drafting a
response to this AD, but we urge you to
obtain a copy of it for your own review
as soon as possible, since responses are
due no later than January 8, 1998.
Any person may obtain a copy of
this NPRM by submitting a request to
the FAA, Central Region, Office of the
Regional Counsel, Attention: Rules
Docket No. 97-CE-79-AD, Room 1558,
601 E. 12th Street, Kansas City, Missouri
64106. The EAA Information Services
department can also supply you with a
copy if you so desire.
Aeronca owners may recall a similar
proposed AD issued in 1987. At that
time, after comments from experienced
people involved in Aeronca mainte-
nance, the AD was whittled down to
affect those airplanes in the fleet that
had actually been experiencing struc-
tural problems after being damaged and
not inspected properly. We urge all af-
fected members to study the AD
carefully and send in their comments.
A short comment is due from EAA
related to a proposal by the FAA to
amend the rules by which changes to
aircraft via the "field approval" process.
Charlie Schuck, Senior Washington
Representative for the Experimental
Aircraft Association (EAA), has been
named to the International Certification
Procedure Task Force (ICPTF). That
task force is reviewing comments
to a Federal Aviation Administration
(FAA) rule proposal regarding re-certi-
fication for changes made to existing
aviation products.
FAA invited Schuck to join the task
force as the lone representative of gen-
eral and sport aviation enthusiasts.
Others on the three-person panel are
Marv Nuss from FAA 's office in
Kansas City and John Kennedy of
Raytheon Aircraft, representing aircraft
The proposed Part 21 rule (Docket
No. 28903) would require any modified
or changed product to undergo type re-
certification to meet the most current
airworthiness standards. EAA and other
aviation organizations maintained the
rule was designed almost exclusively
for transport category aircraft. If smaller
general aviation aircraft remain in-
cluded within the current proposal,
owners effectively could not modifY their
airplanes to improve safety and utility.
EAA made its opposition to the
proposal known to FAA, which then in-
vited an EAA representative to join the
advisory group. Recommendations for
changes to the rule proposal are expected
to be completed by mid-December.
Gary Stegall, 425/266-8969, e-mail
at is look-
ing for a set of main and rod bearings
for a 90 hp Franklin engine. If you can
help, drop him a line.
You may recall Dr. Dudley E.
Smith's request for a lead on a Pobjoy
engine for his Pobjoy Special replica.
Well, he found one, but to make the deal
work, he needs to fmd a starter for one,
so he can trade it to the Australian owner
of the engine he is trying to obtain. If
anyone has a lead on a Rotax N3AO
starter for a Pobjoy, please contact Dr.
Dudley at 405/ 325-1094 (ofc) or
405/325-1088 (Fax).
The EAA Adult Air Academy will
present the first of its annual sessions
February 15-21 , 1998 at the EAA Avia-
tion Center in Oshkosh, WI. Basic
Aircraft Maintenance, Building and
restoration skills will be the subjects of
classroom and workshop activities, plus
participants will have the opportunity to
meet Headquarters staff and learn more
about the wide range ofEAA activities.
The second '98 session, scheduled
for February 22-28, will focus on the
construction of a Loekle Parasol, an
ultralight/very light homebuilt.
The registration fee for each week is
$800, which provides accommodations,
meals, local transportation, classroom
supplies and necessary materials.
For further information and registra-
tion materials contact the EAA Education
Office by calling 920/426-6815, or toll
free at 888-EAA-EAA9, email: educa- You can also write the
EAA Education Office, P.O. Box 3065,
Oshkosh, WI 54903-3086. Registration
is limited. Make your decision and reg-
ister early. Register before January 10th
and receive the complete set of Tony
Bingelis publication series free.
Bob Taylor, founder and president of
the Antique Airplane Association was
kind enough to send a copy of his latest,
a personal project that is a publication
from Antique Airfield Press, the "Album
ofOX-5 Airplanes." It features articles
from many of the famous aero maga-
zines of the 1920s and '30s, and a
number of color shots of more recent
restorations. It also has features from
AAA publications of the past as well.
The cover shot is a beautiful color pic-
ture of the late Bill Watson and his
outstanding restoration of a KR-31,
taken by the late Ken Bums, a fondly
remembered aviation photographer.
There's a four-page color section in the
center of the book as well. Modelers
will love the numerous three-views that
pepper the text and photos. I really en-
joyed the 82 page book (especially the
article reprints from Aviation detailing
the OX-5 work done at Parks College),
and I'm sure any old airplane enthusiast
would too. The cost is only $12.95
postpaid. Order it from: Antique Air-
field Press, P.O. Box 127, Blakesburg,
IA 52536. ...
I sure enjoyed the Buck Hilbert article
on hand propping in the September '97
issue of Vintage Airplane. Now I know
why we used certain procedures with
the "old ships."
May I recommend the word "con-
tact"? We used to call "Brakes," then
pull the prop hub to check the brakes,
then call "Contact!" since switch on and
switch off sound so much alike in a
noisy airport environment.
Charley Hayes
AlC 6289
OX-5 Club 471
New Lenox, IL
Dear Charlie,
I agree - "Contact" is a better word
to use in this operation. CFI Gene Chase
patiently explained the reasons for its use
during my BFR a couple ofyears back, I
just let it slip by in Buck's column.
It also should be used as the confir-
mation by the person in the cockpit,
instead of "Hot. " "Hot" sound an awful
lot like "Not!" or "What? " in the noise
ofan airport. Ifthe prop swinger hollers
"Contact!" and the pilot responds with
"Con ta ct, " both understand clearly
what the situation is. Propping accidents
continue to plague general aviation, and
we all need to take a more proactive,
professional approach to the situation if
the trend is to be reversed. We'll have
more on the subject ofpropping in next
month's issue, including a short article
from Dr. Dennis Agin ofOhio.-HGF-
During a phone conversation with
Dale "Andy" Anderson of the Early
Birds a couple of days ago, he men-
tioned that he saw a picture of Greg
Herrick's Buhl Airsedan on the cover of
Sport Aviation. I have been in contact
with Greg, as a result of my putting up a
website regarding my father-in-law
Walter E. Lees, a Pioneer Pilot. As you
may know, it was Walter who flew the
Airsedan and also it was he, with Fred
Brossy, who flew the Packard-Diesel
powered Bellanca when they set the
endurance record in 1931 .
If you have access to the internet,
you might like to visit my website.
Among other things, it has several
pictures of the Buhl and the Bellanca.
The address is:
My e-mail is:
You will soon realize that [ am
just an amateur as far as producing
a website, but I think you will enjoy
the photos and the text for their
intrinsic value.
Very truly yours,
Ralph S. Cooper, D.V.M.
Pasadena, CA
The letter by Robert C. Wylie, pub-
lished in the October, 1997
issue of Vintage Airplane,
under the heading "Alaska
Robin History," really rang
my bell. When the name of
John Cullen was mentioned,
and that he flew NC922K
into Wausau, WI several
times in 1938, it released a
flood of memories.
I was a 16-year-old high
school student at that time,
and John was giving me
flight lessons in Medford,
WI, whenever I could scrape
a few dollars together from
my paper route. These flight
lessons were given in an
Aeronca C-3, sometimes on
skis. He saw to it that I got a
ride in what is now "Alaska
Robin" N922K. John really
loved airplanes and flew
anything he could .get hi s
hands on.
John had an understand-
ing wife who permitted him
to take an engine apart in a
small house on cold winter days, and he
had two small daughters. He was
always good natured and very tolerant
of the kids, including myself, who hung
around his dad's pasture (airfield), and
later at the new county airport. If he
were alive today, he would be aston-
ished that he was mentioned in a
publication such as Vintage Airplane
magazine. I look back at John as a real
aviation pioneer. He built some of his
own equipment, including skis.
"Alaska Robin" 922K was not
owned by John, as far as I know. I
believe it was owned at the time by a
friend of his who owned the leading
tavern in the town of Medford. I lost
track of John and the airplanes he flew
when i moved away to Hudson, WI
with my parents.
Gene Pfeiffer
AlC 24410
Fremont, CA
Great thanks to chief Antique/Classic volunteer photographer JACKMCCARTHY
for contributing hi s photos and expertise. He spent time this summer trying to
educate a photographer wannabe (me) in the ways of how to operate a camera,
generously loaned to the Division during
the Convention by Canon USA. He is a
great instructor. I do not know how he
would rate his student, but I hope to con-
tinue under his tutelage next year!
All of the folks you see here on these
pages volunteer their time in some way
to the EAA Antique/Classic Division -
Thanks to all who help put together this
wonderful event!
Edna Viets and Linda Chen, part of
themugdistributionand Participation
Some ofthe AIC Security team, (left to right) JoAnne Fox,
Dave "Hlghspeed"Beltz, NancyBeltz,Tim Fox and BobHunt.
Norma and ButchJoycetakeamomentduringthe
Steve Nesse cruising to get things organized for
Red Barn.
Dwayne Trovlliion and Sue Eichman Insidethe
Red Barn.
Bob Brauer, Uoyd Gates, Janet Bennett, Bill Merwin, and Dave Bennett
Angle,Sara Forestand PatFranke.
Front row (left to right) : Kathy McGurran, Mike Kosta,
Russell Kent and Dave Smlth... Back Row (left to right):
Wally Lange, Dan Meade and Tom Taylor... Just afew more
reasonsflightlineoperationsrun sosmoothly!
Warm welcomes and Information free here...lone
Shallbetter, Sandy Perlman and Jeannie Hili at their
postIn theRed Bam.
Pat and Carl Tortorlge, two of the most
welcomed folks volunteers see, driving the
SteveWhelan does notneed thecomputerto
check aircraft dates when Art Maynard Is
around! IfItflies, ArtknowsIt!
Anna and John Osborn, manpower chairmen, and
MikeKostacomparenoteson Cubs!
Dave Thomas, on bike, and Steve Whelan
discuss how to get the whole field out
The lonecrosswalkguard can single-handedly hold up
hundreds of pedestrians, dozens of green machines,
and a seaplane bus... all for one airplane!! AAH...
Airplane powerl
Art Maynard and Mary Ellison take a moment
from runningoperationstoenjoythealrshow.
Red Barn Button Lady, Sue Trovllilon
helps with pizza disbursement at the
volunteer party.
Jack McCarthy helps record
Oshkosh memories for the future!
(left to right) Charlie Kaminski, Steve
Whelan, and Phillip Blake confer at
Classic Point.
Point man, Mike Kosta, with a great background!
Mister Mulligan and the Mullicoupes taxi by...Jlm
Younkin and Bud Oake's most recent contribu-
tion to aviation.
Anna Osbom and Ruthle Classen ... two very good
reasons to sign up to volunteer!
Parade of Flight chairman,
Steve Nesse directs yet
another successful Parade
of Right!
The Aerogram staff, (left to right) Bill and Sarah Marcy and Earl
Nlcholas ... looks like Cub won the "Plane of the Day" award!
AI C " Hostess with the
Mostest " Sally Ryan
accepts a certificate from
Gloria Beecroft Informing
her that a plaque will be
added to the Memorial
Wall , In memory of Brian
Ryan, at next year's dedI-
cation. The funds to pur-
chase this were generous-
ly donated by all of the
volunteers In our division.
Charlie Harris Interviews Bud Dake and Jim Younkin with
Jim's beautiful Mister Mulligan replica In front of the Red
Bam In his "InterviewCircle"!
A rare shot of Charlie Harris, Gene Morris, and
PhilCoulson offoftheflightline!
We all rest peacefully knowing that
our security Is In the hands of such
flnefolksasTim Foxand Dave Beltz!
Bob Lumley (AKA the "Biscuit King"),
and Gloria Beecroft discuss changes
aroundtheRed Bam.
Bob Lumley gets
set to Interview
Butch Joyce for his
video on, starring,
and about Antique
Andy Andrew and Kate Morgan chat while
Selene Bloedorn-Saeed continues tobeauti-
fy thewalls ofthe Red Bam with paintings
of AI C Past Grand Champions done free-
handfrom photosofthewinners!
How many bikers DOES Ittake to park a blpianel?1 Denny Gnalzenga and
VintageAirplaneeditorH.G. Frautschydemon-
strates one ofthe side benefits of his job. A
Workshop Tent activities keep
bird' s eye view of the entire AIC area! That
everyone up to date on both old
and newtechniques.
Antique Classic Officers and Directors in a VERY rare moment at
Oshkosh.. . all sittingdownand all in oneplace!!
Edna Vlets, NancyGlppnerand Ruth Coulson
Fabulous faces you might have
seen at Oshkosh this year.
Volunteers who worked hard to
help make this year's conven-
tion wonderful and memorable
Future aviators enjoy the "KIDDY HAWK," yet
forall ofus!
another project AIC volunteer Bill Marcy
Volunteers staffthe Type Club Tent all week, provid
Ing valuable information and contacts for aviation
enthusiastsofall planetypes.
by NormPetersen
Off to a new home, the
ZiebelllBrennand Cessna 175
Pictured as it leaves the Vette
Seaplane Base at Oshkosh for the last
time is Cessna 175, N6577E, SIN 56077,
mounted on a set of Aqua 2400 floats. A
well-known resident at the seaplane base
for nearly twenty years, the 175 was
converted to a 180 Lycoming with a
constant-speed prop and mounted on
2400 Aqua floats by Aly Ziebell and Bill
Brennand of Oshkosh. Since being
certified on floats, the pretty four-placer
has made yearly fishing trips into Canada
with excellent results and stories that
know no end! In addition, the Cessna has
provided countless seaplane rides over
the many years and introduced many
newcomers to the wonderful world of
seaplanes. Aly Ziebell, who has been
awarded several really nice plaques for
outstanding service to the seaplane fly-ins, will now concentrate on getting his
Piper 1-4 Cub Coupe going on Edo 1320 floats. Bill Brennand, the originator of the
Vette (formerly Brennand) Seaplane Base and a recipient of a like number of award
plaques, will continue with the Stinson Trimotor and other aviation interests. The
new home for the Cessna 175 on floats will be Lake Norman, North Carolina,
where George Wilson and crew will be enjoying seaplane flying at its very best.
Aly Ziebell , on the left, shakes hands with new
owner, George Wilson, in the center. On the right
is Reed Wilson, George's cousin, who helped fl y
the seaplane back to North Carolina.
Harold Hall's Cessna 140
This photo of a 1947 Cessna 140,
NC2574N, SIN 12833, was sent in by
owner Harold Hall (EAA 520329) of
Larned, Kansas . Harold purchased
this extremely low time 140 from an
85-year-old farmer who bought it new
in 1947 for $3900. The farmer had
exchanged the fabric wings for metal-
covered Temco wings in 1962 for $400.
When Harold purchased the 140, it had
325 hours total time since new! Since
then, he has re-upholstered the cabin in
original colors, top overhauled the C-85
engine with new mags, and installed
Cleveland wheels and brakes and a new
Scott tailwheel. In addition, Harold has
added radios and a GPS. The Cessna
presently has about 475 hours total time
Right: Harold's first Young Eagle, Dorothy Leidig of
Timken, Kansas.
10 DECEMBER 1997
and Harold says it flies beautifully.
Sharp-eyed readers will note the origi-
nal micarta mast for the low-frequency
antenna sticking up above the cabin
roof and the original wheel covers on
the 6:00 X 6 wheels.
Harold Hall is a retired Lt. Col.
USAF who flew 83 missions in a P-47
in Italy and southern France in WW II
(79th Fighter Group) earning a DFC,
five Air Medals and a Purple Heart. He
currently enjoys a valid third class med-
ical at age 77.
Finished off in British fighting
colors, complete with roundels and fin
flash, is this 1942 DeHavilland DH-82A
Tiger Moth, N8692, SIN T -7148, owned
by Robert Freudigman of 4556 E. Lake
Rd., Livonia, NY, 14487. The neat two-
place biplane is powered with a
DeHaviliand Gypsy Major 1-C inverted
four-cylinder engine of 145 hp and the
entire airplane has been recovered with
Ceconite 101. One of only 86 Tiger
Moths on the U. S. registry, this particu-
lar jewel is for sale according to Robert.
For details, call him at 716-346-3222
and tell him Norm sent you.
This peaceful evening photo
of a 1943 Navy N2S-3 Stear-
man, NI066N, SIN 75-5293,
was sent in by owner, Curt
Drumm (EAA 374143) of
Manitowoc, WI, who purchased
the Stearman from longtime
EAAer and A / C judge, Bill
Johnson (EAA 242041, A/ C
9211) of Antigo, WI. Restored some years ago (1987)
by Chuck Andreas of Neenah, WI, the pretty "AN yel-
low" biplane was featured on the EAA Merchandise
Calendar with Bill Johnson and his lovely daughter on
board. The Stearman then proceeded to win at Galesburg,
IL; Blakesburg, lA, and Oshkosh '87. At Oshkosh '97,
old NI066N ran off with the World War II Outstanding
Open Cockpit Biplane Award for its surprised owner,
Curt Drumm! This is Curt's very first "taildragger"
airplane and he has done a masterful job of learning to
fly the Stearman and keep it on the runway. The engine
is a Lycoming R-680 of225 hp pulling a McCauley
propeller and the entire airplane is finished in an authen-
tic Navy N2S-3 paint scheme. It is easy to see from the
photo that the Stearman receives plenty ofTLC.
Ken Rudisel's Cessna 120
on floats
a former trophy winner at the EAA
Oshkosh Splash-In and makes for a real
performer with the lightweight 120 air-
frame and a big Lycoming for power.
Featuring an outstanding paint
scheme on both aircraft and floats is 135 hp swinging a big seaplane pro-
this Cessna 120, N3161N, SIN 13419, peller. Owned and flown by Ken
mounted on a set of Edo 1650 floats and Rudisel (EAA 242720, A/C 27386) of
powered with a Lycoming 0-290-D2 of Williamsburg, MI, the pretty Cessna is
Bill Rose's
Ryan STM-S2
on Edo floats
In what could be one
of the rarest combina-
tions in the world is this
1941 Ryan STM-S2,
NC17343, SIN 458, be-
ing mounted on a set of
Edo 47-1965 floats in
William (Bill) Rose's
hangar in Barrington,
IL. Bill Rose (EAA
159635, AlC 6612) is a
veteran seaplane pilot
and an avid Ryan col-
lector. The combination
of the STM-S2 and Edo
1965 floats was sold to
the Dutch East Indies
prior to WW II and used at Soerabaya
Bay Training Base- often called, "Lit-
tle Pensacola." Bill is having to
construct the rather complicated rigging
between the floats and the aircraft, us-
ing Edo drawings, as the aircraft wing
streamlined aluminum tubing.) When
the mounting is completed, we could
see the only flyable Ryan STM-S2 on
floats in the world come taxiing into the
Vette Seaplane Base next summer.
What a sight that will be!
supporting wires are tied into the land-
ing gear at several points. (You might
notice that the struts in these photos are
wood- they're built out of that mater-
ial to finalize the rigging dimensions.
The final struts will be made from
12 DECEMBER 1997
noted aero engineer Alfred Verville, and
was issued A.T.C. No. I . The airplane?
The Buhl-Verville Airster, powered by a
Wright J4 . Verville had plans for other
designs, and when he and Buhl decided it
was best ifthey parted ways, Verville sold
hi s interest in the company back to Buh!.
An imaginative engineer who had worked
with Verville in the Engineering Division
of the Air Service would come to Buh! after
Verville recommended him for the posi-
tion. Ettienne Dormoy, whose fanciful
"Dormoy Bathtub" very light airplane of
1924 had captured the hearts of many avia-
tion tinkerers, was a very capable designer,
and he would head up the program for the
next series of airplanes to be built by the
now reorganized Buhl Aircraft Company
of Marysville, MI.
This new series was to incorporate a
number of advances coming into vogue at
that time, but particularly the enclosed
cabin for both the passengers and pilot.
Over the next five years the Buh! Airsedan
line was refined and built in a variety of
s izes , from the little 3-place Junior
Airsedan, powered by a 110 hp Warner,
all the way up to the 8-place, Wright Cy-
clone powered Senior Airsedan, the
CA-8A. Records were set with various
models of the Airsedan too.
One of the infamous Dole Derby en-
trants was a modified Airsedan named
Miss Doran, after the passenger on the
flight, Mi ldred Doran. Pi loted by Auggie
Pedlar with v.P. Pope as the navigator, the
Airsedan managed to get in the air while it
was overloaded to nearly 5,000 Ibs. Their
220 hp was enough to get them over the
airport fence, but they, like so many others
entered in the race, disappeared without a
trace somewhere over the Pacific.
The Airsedan series did well in the air
derbies that were popular forms of avia-
tion sport back then, including a 10th
place in the 1928 National Air Tour, and a
sixth spot for the 1928 New York to Los
Angeles Air Derby.
In July of 1929, a CA-5A, equipped
with a 220 hp Wright J-5, was flown to a
new endurance record by Loren Mendell
and Pete Reinhart. Their 246 hour record
The cabin and seats are upholstered in a sharp look-
ing grey ribbed fabric, and there are doors on both
sides of the cabin.
didn't last long.
Nobody was just
sitting around
waiting for the
other fellow to
do something-
two weeks later,
the St. Louis Harry Thibault, retired Northwest
Airlines pilot, has been spending
Robin hung up
time recently putting his consum-
there for a total
mate skills to wor k flyi ng
of 420 hours!
many of t he old airplanes in t he
A month later,
Yellowstone Aviation Coilection.
Eventually, a new home, t he
Nick B. Mamer
Golden Wings Flying Museum, will
pil oted the Buhl
be built to house this collection,
CA-6 Airsedan one of the most unique groups of
dubbed the
airplanes ever assembled.
"Spokane Sun
God" in a remarkable endurance test. In-
stead of flying about in a relatively small
racetrack pattern or circle above the city
the airplane had taken off from, Mamer
and his copilot/ refueling hose man Art
Walker had put together an ambitious
plan to fly to New York from Spokane
and return, landing only when the "Sun
God" had returned to Spokane. It would
take II air-to-air refueling rendezvous to
complete the mission, and they did it, fly-
ing the 7,500 miles in liS hours.
Perhaps one of the des ign 's most
famous moments was still to come. As
you'd expect with so much activity, there
was a lot of technical innovation in the
14 DECEMBER 1997
This nickel-plated throttle quadrant, one oftwo
installed in the airplane by Air France when the
Buhl was converted backtoaWright engine, has
beenmaintainedas partofthehistoricallegacyof
late 1920s. One of the major players in the
automotive world was the Packard Motor
Co., and for many years they had also had
profitable business building aero engines.
A brilliant engine designer, L. M. Woolson
worked for Packard on a special project he
championed within the company, a diesel
radial engine. Woolson was convinced
that the diesel, which had enjoyed some
success in the automotive industry, was
perfect for aviation if the engine was being
built specifically for that purpose. Inter-
estingly, the FAA and NASA also seem
to feel the same way, with new initiatives
made recently to stimulate the production
of a modem diesel engine.
Some 100 airplanes were flown wi th
pre-production Packard diesel engines as
the engine was being considered for pro-
duction. One of the airplanes purchased
for use by Packard was a brand new Buhl
Airsedan, model CA-3D, sin 57 and regis-
tered as NC-845I . Beautifully fmished in
black, with bright gold wings and letter-
ing on the tail, the Buhl was a stately
cabin airplane when delivered to Packard
after its purchase for $8,566 on May 28,
1930. Originally equipped with a 300 hp
Wright J-6-9 gasoline engine, the Wright
was removed and replaced with one of the
experimental Packard diesels, and the
special propeller made for the power
plant. Itwas then flown registered in the
"Experimental" category. Later, after the
Packard engine had received its Type
Certificate, the Buh! was recertified under
a CAA "Group 2" approval.
By the way, many of those who
worked around airplanes in those days
know that gold paint was just that, paint
with gold metal flakes suspended in the
clear dope, but nowadays you'll find brass
or other gold-like metals used to make up
the "gold" paint. The original paint on this
Buhl was indeed gold, as were many of
the airplanes built by Buhl.
Packard used the Buhl for testing until
it was sold February 27, 1931 to Aeroposta
Argentina. Within the Packard company,
interest in the diesel had flagged since the
untimely death of its designer, L.M.
Woolson. Woolson had been killed in an
airplane accident, not related to the diesel
engine. Even larger companies who saw
their profits erode in the aftermath of the
October 1929 Stock Market Crash had
to "pull in their horns" and concentrate
on business ventures that would quickly
realize income, rather than drain on al-
ready strained resources. With Woolson' s
death, any life in the Packard aviation
diesel engine was soon gone, and the en-
gine never made it into production.
The Buh!' s sale and export to Argentina
would once again put the airplane in the
spotlight. After its arrival in the country,
Aeroposta Argentina had Air France re-
move the Packard and replace it with a
Wright Whirlwind, and the airplane was
registered as LB-NVF. A few years later,
it was again to be part of an historic
event. During the 1934 International Eu-
charistical Congress, Cardinal Monsignor
Eugenio Pacelli decided to go for a ride in
the Buh! for an aerial tour of the city. Not
too long afterwards, the good Monsignor
was elected Pope Pius xn,and his excur-
sion in the Buhl would go down in the
books as the first airplane flight by a Pope.
The Buhl continued in the service of
Aeroposta Argentina until 1943, when it
was sold. The engine was removed be-
cause it needed to be serviced, and while
sitting outside a strong wind flipped the
Airsedan over on its back, ending its flying
days in Argentina. Many years later, in
1987, the son of the Argentine owner let it
be known that the airplane was available
for purchase. By 1989, a deal had been
made, and the bits and pieces that made
up the Buh! Airsedan were headed back to
the USA.
Before he could get the project started,
the man who bought the Airsedan passed
away, leaving it to lie in a pile in the comer
of a building. Later, after ownership had
The instrumentpanel isjustas itappeared over60years
ago when the airplane was exported to Argentina after
serving as one ofthe Packard diesel engine demonstra-
torsin1930.TheStarPathfindercompassisthere, along
withaBulldogclipfor holdingamap.Bothfrontwindows
can slide open after unscrewing the small clamps. They
mustletin atremendousamountofair!
The radio package at the bottom of the panel is easily
removedwhen theairplaneison display.
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This wide shot of the cockpit shows the dual control
wheels, alongwiththe steel tube Interior bracing. There
are three of those "hoops" visible in the Interior of the
Airsedan, addingtothestrongnatureofthecabin.
Antique/ Classic treasurer Charlie Harris wears a num-
ber of hats during the annual Convention, Including
Interviewer for the A/C video crew. Here, Charlie Is get-
ting ready to Interview Greg Herrick, owner of
Yellowstone Aviation and the Buhl Alrsedan.
been transferred to an associate of the im-
porter, Greg Herrick happened to be
speaking with Jon Aldrich, a well-known
collector and purveyor of old airplane
parts and projects. Jon mentioned to Greg
that he knew of the whereabouts of a
Buhl. Now for many years, ace builder
and restorer Ed Marquart has been working
on a Buhl Airsedan project that he owns.
This would mean there were at least two
16 DECEMBER 1997
of the Buhls that still existed, but this
project was far from complete. When
contacted about the remains of the
airplane, Greg was told to make an offer,
or it would most likely end up in the
county landfill!
The offer was accepted, and Greg had
the project hauled up to Minneapolis,
MN to Dan White and the restorers at
HO Aircraft in Anoka. Taking stock of
what was there, the crew discovered that
many important pieces were in place,
including most of the control systems
and complicated horizontal tail trim
mechanism (Greg says it looks husky
enough to raise and lower the flood gates
on a dam!). The wings are completely
built out of wood, with the bulk of the
structure chrom-moly tubing, although
much of the tubing had to be replaced
due to corrosion. The airframe had been
sitting out in the open for a number of
years in South America, and rust had
really gotten a head start on the restorers!
Often, when a restorer begins a pro-
ject, he'll try and gather as many photos
as possible of the airplane as it originally
appeared. For the Buhl, the process was
helped by the historical significance of the
airplane - it had been used in a number of
Packard advertisements, but at times, the
pictures would leave you tantalizingly
short of a detail. While doing his home-
work on this partic-
ular Airsedan, Greg
called Sue Lurvey
in the EAA Aviation
Foundation's Boe-
ing Aeronautical
Library, and asked
if the collection had
any photos of a
CA-3D Airsedan.
After doing some
research, Sue came
back to Greg with
the news that there
were some glass
plate negatives in
the Worthington col-
lection ofa CA-3D,
but they appeared to
be all of the same
airplane. Imagine
both Sue and Greg's
surprise when they
realized the photos
were ofNC-8451 ,
the exact airplane
Greg and HO Air-
craft were restoring!
Photos are not all
that are required to
restore an airplane -
you also need tech-
nical data, the kind
normally found on the factory blueprints.
You can also benefit from those who may
have already gone down that road before
you. A visit with Ed Marquart helped fi ll
in some details for both men and their
projects. It was also fortunate that Greg
LeeAnn Abrams
was able to obtain a complete
set of prints for all of the
Airsedans, and he even man-
aged to come up with a few
parts for a Buhl Senior
Airsedan. Who knows what
the future holds?
The photos and blueprints
would prove invaluable during
the restoration, especiall y
when the final details were
added to the finish. As the
paint on the sheet metal near
the engine was removed, the
unmistakable outlines of the
words "Packard Diesel Air-
craft Engines" appeared in
gold, just as they appeared in
the photos. It turns out the photos in the
Worthington coll ection were the same
shots that had been taken in California by
Packard for publicity purposes. The letter-
ing was later duplicated exactly, thanks to
the photos and the original paint.
Neat little pieces that were part of the
airplane's history were still in place. When
the airplane was imported into Argentina,
at the time of the engine replacement, a
pair of beautifully machined, nickel-plated
throttle quadrants were installed. A sharp
looking Scintilla magneto switch was in-
stall ed in Argentina, and an added bonus
of the time the airplane spent in Argentina
were the very complete records Greg was
able to obtain from the family of the Argen-
tinean owner. For many antique airplanes
in the US, a portion of their records may be
missing, since a fire many years ago in a
FAA warehouse destroyed thousands of
records. But the Argentine family had
kept copies of it all , including the CAA
records which were included with the
The fall harvest has yet to come to the Minnesota
comflekl below Hany Thibault and the Buhl CA-3Dj E
Airsedan. The lower wing on the Airsedan series
started out at nearly the same size as the upper
wing, but as the design evolved, It became more
of a structural necessity than an aerodynamic one.
A biplane is referred to as a sesquiplane when one
set of wings is less than half the area of the other.
in the air for all of
us to enjoy! ....
(Right and below) Packard diesel engine designer
L.M. Woolson (left) and Packard pilot Walter M.
Lees pose in front of Buhl Airsedan NC-8451. The
Packard Sedan in t he lower photo was added in
these publicity shots done for Packard in 1930.
airplane at the time of its export. Those
copies, at the time of importation, were
laboriously hand copied in longhand
Early on in the process it became obvi-
ous that it would be unreasonable to expect
to install a Packard diesel engine on the
Buhl, if it were to be flown . First of all,
they were very rare, even back in 1930.
Greg has been told by a man who has done
scrap of fabric here and a paint color
there, conftrming the black and gold color
scheme, and the type of fabric used in the
interior upholstery. The photos helped fill
in too. Mounted in the top of the cabin
ceiling is a dome light, the same one used
extensive research on the Packard diesel
engine that he was pretty sure Packard
made only about 25 engines. Along with
the engine, a special propeller incorporat-
ing shock absorbing features was also
needed, and few ofthose still exist. There's
also the story of how the pilots of the BuhI,
after a long cross-country to Florida behind
the diesel, had to throw their clothes away
because the diesel smell just wouldn't go
away! A longer exhaust stack soon ap-
peared on the airplane after that episode.
The decision was made to install a
Wright Whirlwind and Hamilton Standard
ground-adjustable propeller, just as the
airplane appeared when Packard bought
the airplane. To honor its historical her-
itage, the Packard logo was maintained.
Other clues for the restoration were
found on the airframe. A careful review of
the window and door frames yielded a
Woolson and Lees in another publicity shot on a Southern California airport. (Right) This example of the
rare Packard Diesel engine is in Kermit Weeks' collection at his Fantasy of Right complex in Polk City, FL:
in many automobi les. After searching for
one just like it and buying four that were
close, but not exactly it, Greg happened to
find out who the original manufacturer
was of the dome light. Amazingly, that
same manufacturer is still making that
same dome light in Detroit, and has done
so since 1928!
The instrument panel and cockpit were
reproduced in exact detai l, right down to
the Bulldog clip screwed onto the top of
the panel, and the Star Pathfmder compass.
A clock-style hour meter adds to the am-
bience of a Golden Age cabin sesquiplane,
and the flip-forward copilot's seat is a
quaint reminder that sometimes conces-
sions must be made for strength and the
convenience of the passengers.
With much of the research work com-
pleted (does it ever really end?) Dan White
and Tom Oostdik, assisted by Curt Storby
and Amy Green, were able to get into the
restoration ofthe Buhl. Covered with Dacron
fabric, it is fmished in black with gold paint,
and yes, it is real gold paint, made specially
in Europe at the unreal price of $400 per gal-
Ion! You can bet they did their best to be
sure and get it right the first time.
Finished in the late spring of 1997,
Col. Joe Kittinger flew NC-8451 on its first
flight in almost 60 years, and we have
Harry Thibault to thank for flying the
Buhl CA-6DIE (E is the model designation
with the Packard diesel installed) to EAA
Oshkosh for all of us to enjoy. Parked
alongside its new stable mate, the one and
only remaining Cunningham Hall PT-6F,
the airplanes drew crowds all week long.
Thanks to Greg Herrick and The folks at
HO Aircraft for their efforts in keeping a
rare pair of antiques
18 DECEMBER 1997
As many of us start our winter hiberna-
tion, and perhaps do a bit of ski flying,
these images of airplanes and people
from this year's Convention will help
LeeAnn Abrams
warm us up!
(Above) Just pulling the landing gear up during takeoff is this nicely customized Grumman H1J.16
"Albatross," N44RD, SIN 137932, flown to Oshkosh by veteran seaplane pilot, Reid Dennis (EAA
319374, AIC 21597) of Woodside, CA. Reid's Grumman Mallard, N2945, which he has previously
flown to Oshkosh, is painted in a similar grey and blue paint scheme.
(Above) Moving down the taxiway at EAA Oshkosh '97 is the award-
winning Beechcraft El.8S, N57PF, SIN BA-335, flown by Pat Foley
(EAA 413426) of Middletown, DE. In the Contemporary Class, this
beautiful nosewheel conversion of the Beech 18, ran off with the
Custom MultiEnglne Award for it ' s owner, Summit Aviation,
Middleton, DE. Congratulations to Pat Foley and his busy crew at
Summit Aviation.
(Below) Here's a couple that will warm
your hearts whenever you see them. Jerry
and Lucy Coigny of Miramonte, CA have
owned this same Beechcraft Bonanza
most of their married lives, and you'd be
hard pressed to find a more original
Classic airplane that has never been
restored! Honeymooners since they
eloped in July, 1939 while they both
worked for Luscombe. Jerry was on the
road, and Lucy was Don Luscombe's sec
retary. This past summer they celebrated
their 58th wedding anniversary.
(Below) Jerry Cox and Scott Rose of Matoon, IL have
been enjoying the cross-country capabilites of their
Luscombe 8F. They had it at Sun 'n Fun earlier this
year, and then were up at the EAA Convention in
Oshkosh this summer. In the middle of all that, they
managed to host the Luscombe Fly-ln in Mattoon!
We' ll have a report from
Jerry in an upcoming
issue of Vintage
(Below) Taxiing by at EAA
Oshkosh '97 is this sharp looking
Waco UPF-7, NC32084, SIN 5716,
flown by longtime EAAer, Loel
Crawford (EAA 51333, AIC 13817)
of La Follette, TN. Complete with
engine cowling, wheelpants and a
white paint scheme with red and
black trim, the 1941 Waco ran off
with the Customized Aircraft
Champion Award in the Antique
class. Congratulations, Loell This
UPF-7 came off the line right
behind Dick Wagner's UPF-7 ,
NC32083, SIN 5715.
Norm Petersen
(Left and Below) Have your Cub Bronzed!
We missed it during Convention, but
caught up a month later with this
sparkling Piper 1-2 Cub which belongs to
Dick and William Wagner of Lyons, WI.
The lettering on the inside of the door
explains the eye popping paint scheme.
It was photographed in the early morning
light during the Midwest Ant i que
Airplane Club's annual l y ~ n at Brodhead,
WI in eariy September.
20 DECEMBER 1997
Oh boy, thesearefun!Thanksto theprolific
John Underwood, Glendale, CA, we have this
The SeptemberMysteryPlanewas
justabitofa st urnper,thoughnotas
badas theonein October - westill
haveyetto getaansweron thatone!
We have the collectionofLt. Col.
BoardmanC. Reed(ret.)of Brownsville,
CAto thankfor it. Asayoungsterof
IS yearsofage, he tookthephotoand
overthese 69 years he hassavedthe
negativeuntil itwaspublishedforyou
in thepagesofVintageAirplane. Our
thanksto BoardmanandR.S. Stevens,
whoprintedthe negative, forthe Sep-
temberMysteryPlane. "Okay, so what
is it?", Ihearyouclamoring. ! 'lliet
The appearanceofthetailnumber
madethisairplaneeasyto identify.
Reg. #932fromthe inactiverecordsof
theDoCICAAIFAA. Today'sslang,
thisoldairplanean unfortunatename.
It's aSchmuck!
Theabstractsentby Richardshows
the airplane was registered as the
SchmuckCommercialSport,SIN 1,and
Answersneedto be in no laterthanJanuary2S, 1998
forinclusion in the Marchissueof VintageAirplane.
We appreciatethe notesand potentialMystery
Planeswe havereceivedfrom memberssofar, and
would loveto continueto addto ourlistso we cancon-
tinueto enjoythisfeature. Ifyou do havean airplane
you'dliketo submit, please sendaphotograph(xero-
by H.G. Frautschy
wascompletedSeptember9, 1927. It
had a wingspan of34 ft., and was
24feetlong. Later,itwassoldtoJoseph
A. Willard,Alhambra,CA, withanew
registrationnoted2/23129. It was re-
ported permanently dismantled in
Rd. Lennartfound sevenregistrations
for the"productionversionofthebi-
All wereOX-S powered. ...
February, 1930.
Lennart Johnsson, Eldsvberga,
Sweden,wrotetofill in the detail sof
theproductionrunoftheOX-S pow-
eredbiplane.He quotedHatfield's"Los
AngelesAeronautics 1920-1929"which
mentionedthe locationoftheSchmuck
factory. Thetwobrothers,Edwardand
turingconcernatEastside Airport(later
Serial No. Reg. No. Model Year Built
2 7661 Monarch 2 1928
3 7776 Monarch 2 1928
4 396 Monarch 2 1928
5 723K Monarch 1929
Uglrt Commercial
6 112N Monarch A 1929
7 357V Monarch A 1930
8 358V Monarch A 1930
1927 Schmuck " Monarch" or also known as the
"Commercial Sport" sin1, Reg. NO. 932 completed
September 8, 1927. 90 hp Curtiss OX-5. 1928
photo at Callies Ayers Airport (pasture), now South
EI Monte, in southern California. One of the
Schmuck brothers is in the cockpit, while the other
is pulling the prop through. Photo taken by 15-year-old
Boardman C. Reed.
1998 BAA Antique/Classic
This list of Type Clubs should be the
most accurate compilation we've ever pub-
lished. For the past three years, we have
sent each Type Club a postage paid post-
card confirming their listing. This year,
over 60 clubs chose to respond by sending
back the card we sent them. Unfortunately,
40 didn't respond, and some have not re-
sponded in a number of years. Those clubs
have been removed from the list, si nce
they apparently are now inactive or no
longer exist. Any group who did not return
their card this year is marked with a . You
may wish to contact them regarding cur-
rent dues/subscription information.
If you have changes related to your
Type Club li st, drop a note in the mail de-
tailing with your li st ing exactly as it will
appear in the magazine (use the format you
see on these pages). Send your note to: An-
tique/Classic Type Cl ubs, P.O. Box 3086,
Oshkosh, WI 54903-3086, or E-mai l it to
The Type Club li st is also avai lable in
the Division's web page at EAA's Web site,
which you can find at:
Aeronca Aviators Club
Julie and Jae Dickey
55 Oakey Ave.
lawrenceburg, IN 470251538
Phane/FAX 812/5379354
Newsletter: 4 issues per subscription
Dues: None - $16 subscription
International Aeronca Ass'n
"Aeronca lover's Club"
Buzz Wagner
Box 3, 401 1st St. EAST
Clark, SD 57225
605/5323862 FAX 605/ 5321305
Newsletter: Quarterly
Dues: $20 per year
National Aeronca Association
Jim Thompson, President
806 lockport Road
P. O. Box 2219
Terre Haute, IN 478020219
Magazine: 4 per year
Dues: $25 U.S., $35 Canada,
$45 Foreign
Aeronca Sedan Club-
Robert Haley
475 Rincon Avenue
livermore, CA 94550
22 DECEMBER 1997
510/ 4475615
Newsletter: 3 per year
Dues: $5 per year
World Beechcraft Society
Alden C. Barrios, President
1436 Muirlands Dr.
la Jolla, CA 92037
619/459590 1
Dues: $25 per year
Twin Beech 18 Society
c/o Staggerwing Museum Foundatian, Inc.
P. O. Box 550
Tullahoma, TN 37388
615/4551 974
Newsletter: 4 per year
Dues: $40 per year
Bellanca-Champion Club International
lawrence D'Attilio . President
P.O. Box 708
Brookfield, WI 53008-0708
414/ 860-1148 M-F 12:30-4:30 CT
FAX 414/ 271 7998
Newsletter: Quarterly "Bellanca Contact!"
Dues: $38 per year 12 yrs./$62),
Fareign $44 12 yrs'; $68 U.S. Funds)
Bird Airplane Club
Jeannie Hill
P. O. Box 328
Harvard, Il 60033-0328
Dues: Postage Donation
American Bonanza Society
Nancy Johnson, Exec. Dir.
P. O. Box 12888
Wichita, KS 67277
316/ 945-6913 FAX 316/945-6990
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Classic Bonanza Association-
Gary Hammock, Presi dent
P. O. Box 878002
Plano, TX 75086
972/ 2274741 , 972/ 8754279
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Staggerwing Club (Beechcraft)
Jim Gorman, President
P. O. Box 2599
Mansfield, OH 44906
419/ 5293822IH), 7551011 IWJ
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Twin Bonanza Association
Ri chard I. Ward, Director
19684 lakeshore Drive
Three Rivers, MI49093
Phone/ FAX 616/ 2792540
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Chris G. Arvanites
16204 Rosemarie In.
lockport, Il 60441
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Ameri can Tiger Club, Inc. IdeHaviliand)
Frank Price, President
Rt. 1, Box419
Moody, TX 76557
817/ 8532008
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International Bird Dog Association-
ICessna l19)
Phil Phillips, President
3939 (,8 San Pedro, NE, Bldg. C8
Albuquerque, NM 87110
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Box 269
Marine on St. Croix, MN 55047
612/ 4333024 FAX 612/ 4335691
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Box 830092
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Redding, CA 96002
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P. O. Box 15388
Durham,NC 27704
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Velvet Fackeldey,Execu.Secty.
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3958 Cambridge Rd. # 185
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25575 Butternut Ridge Rd.
NorthOlmsted,OH 44070-4505
440/777-4025 after6PM Eastern
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Robert L. Taylor,Editor
P. O. Box 127
Blakesburg,IA 52536
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60Skywood Way
Woodside,CA 94062
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Culver PQ-14 Assoc.
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29621 Kensington Drive
Laguna Niguel,CA92677
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c/oDan Nicholson
723 Baker Dr.
Tomball,TX 77375
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Lloyd Washburn
2656E.Sand Rd.
PI. Clinton,OH 43452-274 1
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Jim Haynes,Editor
21 Sunset Lane
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Carolyn T. Carden,Secretory
7263 Schooners Ct. SWA-2
Ocean Isle Beach,NC 28469-5644
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John W. Berendt, President
7645 Echo Point Rood
Connon Falls,MN55009
507/263-2414FAX 507/263-0152
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Robert L. Taylor, Editor
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P. O. Box 511
Marlborough,CT 06447-0511
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Funk Aircraft Owners Association
Ruth Ebey,Editor
933 Dennstedt PI.
EI Cajon,CA92020
President- Jon Schroeder
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Brent L. Taylor,Editor
P.O.Box 127
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Stew Wilson
3232 Western Drive
Cameron Park,CA95682
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Lorin Wilkinson,President
16225 143rdAve.SE
Yelm, WA98597-9169
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William Schlapman
6431 Poulson Rood
Winneconne,WI 54986
The Interstate Club-
Robert L. Taylor,Editor
P. O. Box127
Blakesburg,IA 52536
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Bill Goddard,Editor
815 N. Lake Reedy Blvd.
Frostproof,FL 33843-9659
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Lockheed Owners Association
Ria Donovan,Editor
P. O. Box62275
BoulderCity,NV 89006-2275
702/293-0641 FAX 702/293-0652
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Continental Luscombe Association
Loren Bump,Fearless Leader
705 Riggs
Emmett,ID B3617
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John Bergeson, Chairman
Remus, MI 49340
517/561-2393 FAX 517/561-5101
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Meyers Aircraft Owners Association -
William E.Goffney,Secretory
26 RI. 17K
Newburgh,NY 12550
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Monocoupe Club
Bob Coolbaugh, Edi tor
6154 River Forest Drive
Manassas, VA 20112-3076
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American Navion Society
Jerry Feather, Editor
Lodi Municipal Airport
59A Houston Ln.
Lodi , CA 95241-1810
209/ 339-4213
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Raleigh Morrow
P. O. Box 2678
Lodi, CA 95241-2678
209/ 367-9390 8 a.m.-12 noon M-F
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Buckeye Pietenpol Association
Grant Maclaren
6364 Franks Rd .
Byrnes Mill, MO 63051 -1103
Phone: 314/677/ 1669, com/BPANews
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An SASE will bring more information
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Robert L. Taylor, Editor
P. O. Box 127
Blakesburg, IA 52536
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Short Wing Piper Club, Inc.
Eleanor and Bob Mills, Editors
220 Main
Halstead, KS 67056
316/ 835-3307 (H) ; 835-2235 (W)
Magazine: Bimonthly
Dues: $30 per year
Piper Owner Society.
P.O. Box 5000
lola, WI 54945
715/ 445-5000 or 800/ 331-0038
FAX: 715/ 445-4053
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(24 hours)
Cherokee Pilots Assoc.
P. O. Box 1996
Lutz, FL 33548
813/ 948-3616, 800/ 292-6003
Magazine: 11 issues per year
Dues: $32.00 (US)
$36.00 Canada and Mexico $44.00 Foreign
International Comanche Society
Wiley Post Airport
Hangar #3
Bethany, OK 73008
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Cub Club
John Bergeson, Chairman
6438 W. Millbrook Rd.
Remus, MI 49340
517/ 561 -2393 FAX 517/ 561-5101
Newsletter : 6 per yeor
24 DECEMBER 1997
Dues: $25 per year U.S., $25 Canada,
$30 Foreign
L-4 Grasshopper Wing
Bill Collins, Editor/Publisher
RR 2, Box 619
Gould, AR 71643-9714
870/ 263-4668
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Super Cub Pilots Association
Jim Richmond, Founder/ Director
P. O. Box 9823
Yakima, WA 98909
Dues: $25 per year U.S., $35 Canada,
$40 Foreign
Porterfield Airplane Club
Chuck Lebrecht
91 Hickory Loop
Ocala, FL 34472
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Rearwin Club.
Robert L. Taylor, Editor
P. O. Box 127
Blakesburg, IA 52536
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Dues: $15 for 3 issues
National Ryan Club
Bill Hodges, Edi tor and Historian
19 Stoneybrook Ln.
Searcy, AR 72 143-6129
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Seabee Club International.
Captain Richard W. Sanders, President
6761 NW 32nd Av.
Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33309-122 1
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The Stampe Collector
Don and Bonnie Peterson, Editors
2940 Falcon Way
Midlothian, TX 76065
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Stearman Restorers Association
Brian F. Riggs, President
3913 Red Leaf Court
Point of Rocks, MD 21777-2042
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Dues: $25 per year
National Stinson Club.
c/ o Jonesy Paul and George Alleman
14418 Skinner Road
Cypress, TX 77429
713/ 373-0418 WP)
916/622-4004 (GA)
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Dues: $15 per year
National Stinson Club (108 Section)
Bill and Debbie Snavley
115 Heinley Road
Lake Placid, FL 33852-8137
941/465-6 101
Quarterly magazine: Stinson Plane Talk
Dues: $25 US, $30 Canada and Foreign
Southwest Stinson Club
Vic Steelhammer
3001 8 Grandifloras Road
Canyon Country, CA 91351 -1526
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Dues: $20 per year
1-26 Association (Schweizer)
a Division of the Soaring
Society of America
c/o Tom Barkow, Sec. Treas.
1302 South Greenstone Ln.
Duncanville, TX 75137
Newsletter: 8 per year
(plus a directory)
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Swift Association, International
Charlie Nelson
P. O. Box 644
Athens, TN 37371
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Bruce Bixler II , President
12809 Greenbower, N.E.
Alliance, OH 44601
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Taylarcraft Owner's Club
Jack Pettigrew, President
8325 Audley Lane
Richmond, VA 23227-1729
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Travel Air Restorers Association
Jerry Impellezzeri , President
4925 Wilma Way
San Jose, CA 95124
Quarterly Newsletter
Travel Air Club.
Robert L. Taylor, Editor
P. O. Box 127
Blakesburg, IA 52536
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Dues: $15 for 3 issues
Travel Air Div. of
Staggerwing Museum
P. O. Box 550
Tullahoma, TN 37388
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American Waco Club
c/oJerry Brown,Treasurer
3546Newhouse Place
Phil Coulson, President
Newsletter: Bi-monthly
Dues:$25 peryear,$30 Foreign
National Waco Club
Roy Brandly,President
700 Hill Avenue
Hamilton,OH 45015
Dues:$10peryear, $14foreign
Artic Newsletter
David Neumeister
5630S. Washington
QuarterlyNewsletters forM 1,M5,
Musketeer, Norseman, Skipper,Tomohawk,
Dues: $10peryear per type exceptMaulewhich
is $20for 12 issues
National Biplane Association
CharlesW. Harris, Boord Chairman
P. O. Box 470350
Tulsa,OK 74147-0350
918/622-8400FAX 918/665-0039
Dues: $25 Individual;$40 Family,U.S.;
odd $10 for Foreign
North American Trainer Association
(T-6,T-28,NA64, NA50, P-51,8-25)
Kathy and Stoney Stonich
25801 NE Hinness Rood
Brush Prairie,WA98606
360/256-0066FAX 360/896-5398
Newsletter:Quarterly,Texans &Trojans
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Replica Fighters Association
Jim Felbinger,President
2409Cosmic Drive
Joliet,IL 60435
Dues: $20 peryear
World War I Aeroplanes, Inc.
Leonard E.Opdycke
15 Crescent Rood
Poughkeepsie,NY 12601
Journals (4 times annually):WW IAero
(1900-1919) ;Skyways (1920-1940)
Dues: Minimum- $30each peryear;
$35 Foreign for eachJournal
Society of Air Racing Historians
Hermon Schaub, Sec./Treas.
168Marion Ln .
Berea,OH 44017
Newsletter: Bimonthly "Golden Pylons"
Dues:$15 U.S.,$18 Other
American Aviation Historical Society
2333 OtisStreet
Santo Ana, CA 92704
714/549-4818 (Tuesday, 7:00-9:00PM local)
Florida Stearman-
Antique Biplane Owners Group
1 0906Denoeu Rood
Boynton Beach, FL 33437
561/732-3250FAX 561/732-2532
Flying Farmers, International
2120Airport Rood
P.O. Box9124
Wichita,KS 67277
316/943-4234FAX 316/943-4235
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Luscombe Foundation
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Phoenix,AZ 85082
602/917-0969 FAX 602/917-4719
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International Liaison Pilot and
AircraftAssociation (ILPA)
Son Antonio, TX 78232
Bill Stratton,Editor
210/490-1LPA (4572)
Newsletter: "liaison Spoken Here"
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Send for Free Copy of "liaison Spoken Here"
Minnesota Seaplane Pilots Association
Michael Schmitt
Buffalo, MN 55313
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National Air Racing Group
Betty Sherman,NAGTreasurer
5508 7th Avenue NW
Seattle, WA 98107-2727
Newsletter:Professional Air Racing
Dues: $15 ($20outside USA)
payable to NAG
N3N Restorers Association
Gerold Miller
GrandJunction, CO 81506
Dues:$12 peryear
The 99s, Inc. International Women Pilots
Loretto Jean Gragg,Exec.Director
Will Rogers Airport
Box 965
OklahomaCity,OK 73159
Newsletter:Monthly/The 99 News
Dues:$55 annually
OX-5 Aviation Pioneers
Robert F.Long
P. O. Box 201299
Austin,TX 78720
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Piper Aviation Museum Foundation
Elizabeth T.Piper, President
One PiperWay
Lock Hoven, PA 17745-0052
717/748-8283 FAX 717/893-8357
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Dues: $30annually
Seaplane Pilots Association
Robert A. Richardson,Exec.Director
421 Aviation Way
Frederick,MD 21701
Newsletter: Water Flying (Bimonthly);
1996WaterLanding Directory
$18- Members/$37non-members
plus $4 shipping
Dues: $36 peryear
Sentimental Journey to Cub Haven, Inc.
E. J. "Doc"Conway,Fly-In Director
Lock Hoven,PA 17745-0496
717/893-4200FAX 717/893-4218
Silver Wings Fraternity
P.O. Box 44208
Cincinnati ,OH 45244
Slipstream Tabloid
Dues: $15 peryear initially,
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Open to those who soloed powered
aircraftat least 25 yrs.ago.
Vintage Sailplane Association
George Nuse,Secretory
4310 River Bottom Dr.
Norcross, GA 30092
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Waco Historical Society, Inc.
W. F. Laufer,Treasurer
P. O. Box 62
Troy,OH 45373-0062
513/335-WACO 1-5pm Sat.-Sun.
Maythrough November
Women in Aviation, International.
Dr. PeggyJ.Baty
3647S.R.503 South
WestAlexandria,OH 45381
937/839-4647,FAX 937/839-4645
Dues:$35 peryear
($20peryear for students)
Ilin Association.
David Sutton
8Knollwood Rd.
Hackettstown,NJ 07840
byE.E. "Buck" Hilbert
EM #21 Ale #5
P.O. Box 424, Union, IL 60180
First FlightAfter 49 Years
"I'm a little apprehensive," I confessed.
"Well, then fll take it up!" Brian stated pos-
itively. "Good idea," was my reply. My
reasoning was that I wasn't acquainted with
this field, didn't have a clue as to what the
terrain (read forced landing) offered, and,
besides, this project had languished for
some 49 years and after restoration and fi-
nally, with all the "bugs" out of it, was ready
to fly. Who wouldn't be apprehensive?
The last time this airplane flew was
1948. This is hearsay and I can't authenti-
cate it because all the principals are
deceased. I had acquired this machine
from the former Global Air Shows' inven-
tory after "Duke" Kashner passed away
and Martha from Cherry Valley, Ohio
decided to sell everything. It was one of
six airplanes Bill Ross and I bought back
in the late seventies.
Martha showed me pictures of the C-3
with its "clown" paint job from the air
show days and it was a red, white and
blue "clown" with a big red nose, a smiling
face on the cowl and had a pair of gloved
hands painted on the wing tips. "Duke"
did a "clown" act with it and it must have
been a sight to see.
Martha and "Duke" retired to the Quit-
ulla (pronounced quiettula) farm at Cherry
Valley. "Duke," somewhat of a genius,
had been an air show pilot; Martha was
his wingwalker and ticket sales person.
Global Air Shows "died" when "Duke"
developed a brain tumor about five years
before we got the airplanes. In the inter-
vening years before his demise, he and
Martha had a traveling display they took
26 DECEMBER 1997
to various shopping mall grand openings.
They would trailer a Waco, a Meyers
OTW and the C-3 to these events, assem-
ble them for display, and do autographs
and pictures for interested bystanders. I
never had the opportunity to see their
displays, but I'll bet they made quite an
impression. Martha retired after "Duke"
became terminal, and passed away about
a year after she sold us the airplanes.
But let's get back with the story of this
little C-3.
There were two of them in the package,
along with a derelict Fairchild 22 that
once belonged to Charlie Woerner from
Geneva, Ohio. As a matter of fact, Charlie
was the last one to fly that "22" when the
Gypsy shelled out and they went through
a ditch during a forced landing in the CPT
program in 1940 or '41. There was also a
Porterfield CP-65, a J-2 Cub, now flying
with Phil Michmerhuizen at Holland,
Michigan, the Waco IBA, sold to Vern
Jobst, Martha's OTW, later restored by
Ross, and a load of tools and propellers.
The C-3s were a mess. The "clown,"
NC13000, relatively intact, was all there;
N12423 was a real basket case. Engines?
- take time out here for a good laugh-
were in boxes and baskets. No propellers,
no wheels, nothing even close to a restor-
able airplane.
Enter Walt Weber from Birmingham,
Alabama. Walt called me because he was
looking for a project. He grew up in the
shadow of the Hogan brothers at Hamilton,
Ohio, and of course with the Aeronca
plant being just down the road in Mid-
dletown, he was intimately familiar with
the C-3s. He took on the project, with the
agreement that he was to restore both
airplanes. There would be one for him
and one for me, and I was to have first
choice after they were both completed.
I delivered both of them to him and
the project got underway. He needed
13000 for patterns, so he started on
12423 first. He did a great job and fin-
ished 12423. Irv Eschelman flew it to
Oshkosh, and after the novelty wore
off, it was sold to John Anderson from
Atlanta. 13000 project went fine until
Walt was painting in the basement one
day with the furnace blower running. He
managed to dust the entire house with an
over spray ofInternational Orange! His
wife wasn't the least bit happy about it,
and the project sort of languished.
There was NO engine for this airplane,
so I inveigled Tom Trainor over at Troy,
Michigan to build me one out of the sev-
eral baskets of parts I had. Tom built up a
core for me and that's the engine now on
the airplane.
Just before Walt Weber retired from
Southern Aviation Insurance and literally
got out of aviation, I went down and
picked up the airplane, now dry rigged
and supposedly almost ready to fly, and
brought it home. I picked at it, but I too
developed a bad case of lethargy and it sat
here for the next eight or ten years. And
then when Brian Van Wagnen was over
here one day, he convinced me that he
needed another project and he could finish
it up.
Another two years pass before we have
a flyable airplane. Brian goaded me into
making several trips over to his place in
Jackson, Michigan, and between the two
of us and a lot of help from some of the
guys who hang out at his shop, it pro-
gressed considerably.
The last few days were a bear. It took
four tries before we got a decent wind-
shield installed. then we had mag problems,
carburetor problems, landing gear a1ign-
ment problems, rigging headaches.
Then, the last five percent fmally comes
together and we've run out of excuses
to NOT fly it.
My turn comes first! I do taxi tests. I
ran around the yard and then up and
down the strip. It was ready, the weather
was right, but I wasn't! Here I am with
weak knees and apprehensions at the cru-
cial moment. So it's Brian to the rescue
and away he goes.
It flew beautifully, and lifted off in less
than 300 feet! We watched while he
climbed out, checked the controls and the
rigging, while we all listened to the typical
sound of a smooth running Aeronca
E-I13 engine, cheering as he flew by in a
low high speed pass, and watched a while
longer as he orbited above, coming down
in a showoff wheel landing.
Brian jumped out, gave me the wool
cap and I took my turn. I was still appre-
hensive, but there was really no reason to
be. There was a newly created cornfield
just off to the left of the strip and a quarter
mile off the end of a nice bare beanfield.
Once I had my forced landing fields in
sight and saw the lay of the land, I began
to enjoy myself.
I climbed out to about 200 feet, set up
a crosswind, climbed on a downwind, and
began checking everything out. The rigging
was fme. The engine never missed a beat,
and this C-3 was indicating nearly 80
mph in the straightaway, about eight mph
faster then NC13556. It's a typical C-3-
it loses ten to 15 mph indicated in the
The "Mr. Frtendly" clown paint job on the C-3 from
Its air show days, and a shot of the cockpit before
the restoration. The large "crash pad" Is mounted
on the back on of the gas tank.
These shots were taken this past June, before every
thing had been hooked up. That's why the ailerons
droop-they haven't been rigged yeti The beautifully
rebUilt E113 Aeronca engine was done by the low horse
power Aeronca guru, Tom Trainor.
turns, and when I did my slow flight and
stalls, it behaved just like it should.
Confidence now at 100 percent, I even
did a lazy eight before I came back in with
a nice three point landing. That was the end
of the flying for the day, since the wind
was coming up and light drizzle had begun.
It's a wonderful feeling to see an air-
plane that old be resurrected and flying
again. I'm especially intrigued by these
C-3s. They are really the grandparents of
all the light airplanes flying today. And
when I see the operators' manuals and the
voluminous information available today,
and remember that this airplane was built
and flown BEFORE they wrote the books,
it dazzles and humbles me.
Then I think of some of those old, long
gone airplane pilots I flew with who
learned to fly in Aeronca C-3s. The basics
they learned were still good and still
applicable to the Boeing 747s and Douglas
DC-lOs they were flying when they
retired. These little airplanes still retain an
allure for me that will never wear off. I'll
always love to prop one. Why? Because it
was the first airplane I ever propped as a
line boy. This was the airplane that
invoked dreams and started me on the
best career in the world.
At EAA Oshkosh ' 97, the FAA Aircraft
and Airman Registry had a booth in the
FAA building. They offered free micro-
fiche records to anyone who wanted them.
I made out the self-addressed mailer and
the fiche for NCI3000 arrived just yester-
day. The chronology of ownership
revealed some interesting things.
The puzzling part of these records is
that no one held title for more than a year.
The airplane stayed in the Boston area
from 1932 until November of ' 44 when
our own Bob Whittier purchased it and
brought it to Milwaukee. There were ten
owners previous to Bob Whittier. He only
had it a few months, and then in '45 it
went to Michigan, then Ohio, through
five more owners, eventually to the
Kaschners, and then fmally to me in '81 .-
I guess they didn't have to record repairs
and alterations cause the records are blank
from '32 until '36 when the left rear spar
and aileron were replaced and repaired.
There's no mention of a recover job.
Only one service bulletin shows in the
records, the addition of a fuel shut-off
stop in '36, and in 1948 the first weight
and balance and equipment list are
recorded. Also shown at that time was the
installation of a dual ignition engine. I
would suppose this was for the air show
routine; the extra nine hp would help.
Tom Trainor, the Aeronca engine and
Aeronca K guru, has repeatedly told me
there was never a dual magneto installa-
tion approved on the C-3, but there it is!
Perhaps in the air show routine business
they had some special deal with the CAA.
There the record ends. I talked with
Tom Trainor, and when I told him who
owned it there in Michigan, he excitedly
told me he had tried to purchase the air-
plane in 1952. That at that time, it was a
ragged looking patchwork quilt and the
owner, a professional photographer, re-
fused to sell it to him. Yet less than four
months later it was sold and went to Ohio.
The records and the rhetoric don't jibe.
Martha must have been telling me big sto-
ries about the Global Air Show days .
Maybe her memory was tinged with what
she really wanted to be and she had told
the story so many times she believed it
herself. The wing walking, the parachute
jumping, the selling of tickets, I wonder if
there is anyone out there who can recall
the straight skinny on this. If there is, it's
over to you! f( 3t(ck. ..
Neal Anders...........Goshen,NY
Neil1. Anderson....SpringGrove,IL
GretchenR. Anderson ..Scottsdale,AZ
ChrisAustin.........Las Vegas,NY
Drew1. Bowe.......SantaRosa, CA
ReaganBradshaw .......Austin,TX
Glenn1. Bridges......E. Dublin,GA
RichardW. Brown......Orewell,VT
RobertW. Burke...WhitePlains,NY
WillardE. Chastain
DavidW. Clapp ........Fulton,MO
FredM.Coleman ..WhitePlains,NY
StanleyA. Crosier. .NewPortRichey,FL
RobertW. Cutter .....Lexington,SC
John H.Davis ........Roseville,CA
.. Balmain,Sydney,NSW,Australia
BrianE. Downing........Brush,CO
MarkS. Duerr .......Sandwich,MA
John L. Dunham. . ....St. Louis,MO
MattA. Ellis.........Louisville,KY
DennisEls ..........Mt. Vernon,IL
DaleEndter .........Rochester,NY
AndrewM.Estes, Sr. ...N. Mesa,AZ
JamesG. Frazee........Coppell,TX
FelicityFridman .....NewYork,NY
FrankE. Gochenauer
Lyndol G. Greene......Franklin,TN
. ...... ..Montreal,Quebec,Canada
DonD. Guthrie.....OrangePark,FL
ScottE. Guyette .........Ripon, WI
AlanHaltol .....TheWoodlands,TX
RoyHanson,Jr. .....Chatsworth,CA
ThomasG. Hebert. ..LakeCharles,LA
SterlingK. Hight.....Greenfield,WI
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JerryL. Kincaid........Sterling,AK
ElaineG. Kleman.....Hampshire,IL
Glen A. Krinke..........Sandy,UT
ThomasO. Lawler .WichitaFalls,TX
Larry Lindemann ...ValleyCity,NO
WilliamF. Lone....Bloomington,IN
MikeC. Martens.....Henderson,NY
JimR. Matonti..........Chester,NJ
JimMcCormick .........Dallas,TX
KevinM. McLaughlin
............ ColoradoSprings,CO
EdwardM. Minor,Jr.
DeanMyers ...........Cresant,OK
HughD. Norton....Summerfield,FL
JessePanneton .......Arlington,V A
RichardL. Prann.......SanJuan,PR
StephenE. Reese ........Albany,IN
JamesW. Roberts ......Sonoma,CA
JimRuckman .......Anchorage,AK
RoderickE. Scamahom
ElaineC. Schmidt .......Bristol,P A
GeorgeC. Siska....SaddleBrook,NJ
WilliamD. Smith .....Yorktown, IN
AvaC. Sumpter....Montgomery,TX
BradleyJ.Sunde ...FergusFalls,MN
Harry1. Taylor .........Milford,NJ
JamesF.Vickers ....OrangeCity,FL
MichaelE. Walczak,Jr.. .Yorkville,IL
StanWhite ...........Lubbock,TX
ClayT.Whitehead ....McClean,VA
DavidA. Winkler.......Colgate,WI
BrianZabriskie ........Moscow, ID
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