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Best way to sell a gold coin?
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by tadamsmar » Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:20 pm
My mother-in-law gave us a 1915 Austrian 4 Ducat. It worth $700 to $800 and we want to sell it.
What's the best way to sell a gold coin?
Thanks!
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Re: Best way to sell a gold coin?
by bearwolf » Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:27 pm
tadamsmar wrote:My mother-in-law gave us a 1915 Austrian 4 Ducat. It worth $700 to $800 and we want to sell it.
What's the best way to sell a gold coin?
Thanks!
Check out APMEX on the web.
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by Shireman28 » Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:40 pm
Go to a couple local coin shops.
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by tludwig23 » Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:46 pm
If you want $700-$800 you need to wait for the price of gold to rise. The coin contains 0.4430 troy oz. of gold, which is currently at $1380/oz.
($1380/oz. x 0.4430oz. = $611)
It has no numismatic value, i.e., it isn't worth anything as a coin per se, only its gold is valuable.
APMEX is currently buying for $578.
My experience from when I've sold such things is that the easy way is to call APMEX and send it to them, but you can make 10-15% more money
(after fees) by selling it on ebay. I'd watch a few auctions on ebay and see what they end up sell for. Given the APMEX price, you could also go to
a local coin shop and try to sell for the APMEX price and save the $20 in shipping and insurance. However you'll need to be good at bargaining, as
they are likely to give you a low-ball offer.
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by Abe » Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:52 pm
tadamsmar:
A 1915 AUSTRIA AUSTRIAN 24K SOLID GOLD (4) DUCAT COIN 14G
sold on eBay for $647.21 on January 13, 2011. If yours is 24K solid gold and weighs 14 grams, the actual melt value is about $612.46 based on
todays gold spot price $1360.70 calculated as follows: 14 grams converted to troy oz. is .450110 troy oz. One troy oz of pure gold $1,360.70 X
.450110 =
$612.46 which should be the actual gold content value of the coin. I don't know if it has any numismatic value or not. You should be able to get
about $650.00 for it on ebay. Hope this helps. abe
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by pshonore » Mon Jan 17, 2011 2:18 pm
But remember Ebay will grab 9% (capped at $50) as a commission and another 2.9% of your Paypal payment. (Might be slightly less for $600 sale)
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Re: Best way to sell a gold coin?
by tludwig23 » Mon Jan 17, 2011 2:40 pm
tadamsmar wrote:What's the best way to sell a gold coin?
Wait until the collapse of civilization and trade it for ammunition and freedom seeds Risks of this approach include the risk that the person with
the ammunition will just take the coin from you.
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by tadamsmar » Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:01 am
This is becoming a saga. My wife took it to a jeweler and was offered $350. I contacted a local guy on Craig's list and was offered $500 tentatively
yesterday (estimated on current gold price).
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I am going to try to negotiate the Craig's list guy up to my net earnings from an insured shipment to AMPEX, which I estimate to be about $545.
I have not called AMPEX yet. If I sell to AMPEX, i assume I take on some risk that the price will fall during shipment? Or, do they make an offer
that expires in a few days to give me a chance to get the coin to them?
I don't think I will do Ebay, I have never bothered to set myself up to sell anything on Ebay.
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by tadamsmar » Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:08 am
What are the reporting requirements to AMPEX?
I am not sure if there are any capital gains to be reported. This was a gift from my mother in law to us at Christmas just a month ago. It was a bonus
given to her late husband (who worked for stock brokerage firm) many years ago.
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by bearwolf » Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:59 am
tadamsmar wrote:This is becoming a saga. My wife took it to a jeweler and was offered $350. I contacted a local guy on Craig's list
and was offered $500 tentatively yesterday (estimated on current gold price).
I am going to try to negotiate the Craig's list guy up to my net earnings from an insured shipment to AMPEX, which I estimate to be
about $545.
I have not called AMPEX yet. If I sell to AMPEX, i assume I take on some risk that the price will fall during shipment? Or, do they
make an offer that expires in a few days to give me a chance to get the coin to them?
I don't think I will do Ebay, I have never bothered to set myself up to sell anything on Ebay.
If you call APMEX they will lock in a price for you. They require a credit card that they will charge if you don't ship to them in a certain amount of
time. I don't know what that shipping period is, but it allows for standard delivery by USPS. I've never mailed anything in as I am local and just visit
in person. I've sold several times to AMEX and all were relatively trouble free. I had one problem where the telephone rep wouldn't give me the
price listed on the web site. I knew what the price was before I agreed though and as the difference was small chose to make the transaction
anyway. I spoke with the manager and he said the rep in question was from a different department and was new at taking phone orders.
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by market timer » Sun Jan 23, 2011 11:07 am
tadamsmar wrote:I am not sure if there are any capital gains to be reported. This was a gift from my mother in law to us at Christmas
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just a month ago.
Why would you sell a gift so soon?
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by bearwolf » Sun Jan 23, 2011 11:09 am
market timer wrote:
tadamsmar wrote:I am not sure if there are any capital gains to be reported. This was a gift from my mother in law to us at
Christmas just a month ago.
Why would you sell a gift so soon?
Because Gold is selling at a reasonably high price?
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by stratton » Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:01 pm
This must be the third or fourth thread on "how do I sell a gold coin?"
Paul
...and then Buffy staked Edward. The end.
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by AzRunner » Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:58 pm
A reputable coin shop will give you the gold value of the coin. Just check on how they determine the value of the coin to be sold.
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by investorjunkie » Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:37 pm
stratton wrote:This must be the third or fourth thread on "how do I sell a gold coin?"
Paul
Maybe this means to buy more?
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by tadamsmar » Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:44 pm
market timer wrote:
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tadamsmar wrote:I am not sure if there are any capital gains to be reported. This was a gift from my mother in law to us at
Christmas just a month ago.
Why would you sell a gift so soon?
My PP is out of balance.
Actually, she gave it to us assuming we would sell it.
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by tadamsmar » Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:47 pm
stratton wrote:This must be the third or fourth thread on "how do I sell a gold coin?"
Paul
Sorry, I did not think to look.
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by tadamsmar » Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:14 am
tadamsmar wrote:
stratton wrote:This must be the third or fourth thread on "how do I sell a gold coin?"
Paul
Sorry, I did not think to look.
Maybe I am missing something, but I only see one thread about selling a gold coin and the advice there is different since mine is worth 10+ times
more.
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by tadamsmar » Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:19 am
Well, I decided to put an ad on Craig's list. I hope to find a motivated retail buyer who will pay close to the AMPEX ask price.
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by clock98 » Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:22 am
You might do better looking for a "Wanted Gold Coins" ad on craigslist
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by clock98 » Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:22 am
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You might do better looking for a "Wanted Gold Coins" ad on craigslist
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by tadamsmar » Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:51 am
clock98 wrote:You might do better looking for a "Wanted Gold Coins" ad on craigslist
Thanks, I tried that and it seems to turn up the same people as my ad.
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by tadamsmar » Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:58 am
Turns out that gold coins are hard to counterfeit for a profit. It's hard to produce a coin that will (1) pass a simple weight and dimensions test (i.e.
density) test (2) pass a simple gold surface test and (3) be stamped out to look real.
So fake coins are rare.
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Fake gold bricks are more common. One just has to hollow them out, and fill with a compostion of lead and a lighter material to get the overall
density correct. You can just bore a hole in the lead to get it's density (including the hole) to that of gold. I guess closing the hole would be the
hardest part.
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by tludwig23 » Fri Jan 28, 2011 7:39 pm
hallowendesh wrote:You can try eBay or see some local parts dealers and check their bids. It depends on how much you know about
the room. There are different ways for different people better. I collect coins for many years and know that I would sell my gold coins
too. This is not the same dealer I sell my silver dollars too.
What?
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