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Difference between Vakhya and Thirukanitha

At times, particularly planet like Saturn as long as 6 moths or about. It is better to follow VAkya
Panchangam (if a house has one of its own) for vratams, thithis, etc. For Astrological studies,
Thirugganita Panchangam is followed generally.

To Cast a Horoscope which is to be followed. If it is Thirukanitham system, the planets will represent in
different houses comparing to Vakkya Systems.

If I have a horoscope in Vakkaya systems, is it necessary to cast in Thirukanitha System for matching
the horoscope for alliance and for knowing the future of a person.

If you have the horoscope on Vakkya panchangam, please keep it aside; it may be of help in case any
discerning opinion arises later. If you feed on computer what you get is based on Tirugganitha
panchangam. Difference between the two is not consistent or constant. The practitioners go on the
"ganith" only. All the best

The planet earth is round, based on this vakia panchangam works . The planet earth is spherical, based
on this calculations are made in thriganitha panchangam. By using telescopes of Astronomy Dept. is
giving us the correct degrees of each planet which is very close to triganitha panchanga planet degrees.
IN THE 1950 solar eclipse and lunar eclipse timings from trignaitha panchangam were correct whereas
vakia panchangam timings were not correct. At that time astrologers have decided to take only
triganitha panchangam as a correct one to predict astrology.
Is there any difference in the Ayanamsa used in the two Panchgams?

It will take 365days and 6hours for the earth to go around sun. Each time the earth is having minute
backward movement each year which takes 50.29875 seconds which was found some 2500 years ago in
Brahat samhithai Mahabhaskariam and Suriya Sidhantham. You can see these things. With the help of
latest telescopes, astronomers and experts now a days has agreed that earth is going back each year
50.3 seconds, so written on olden days books are correct. Dr. B.V.RAMAN. has stated that in the year
ki.pi.397 Sayanam and nirayanam were same and based on that only Ayanamsam must be calculated.
Some astrologers are saying Revathipaksha Ayanamsam is correct and others are saying Chitraipaksha
Ayanamsam is correct. Chitrapaksha Ayanamsam must be calculated the time sun enters in the yoga
thara of chithra star. Many astrologers have accepted this. As per this ki.pi.301 year February 14th
midnight sayanam and nirayanam were in the same degree, based on this ayanamsam was calculated.
But in India astrologers are using 18 different ayanamsams. There is a differnce of 1 pagai and 27 kalai
in lahiri ayanamsam and Dr. B.V.Raman ayanamsam. Based on the chithra paksha method in 1920
ayanamsam 22*36" 37' 1930 22*45,00 1940 22 53 24 1950 23 01 47 1960 23 10 10 1970 23 18 34
1980 23 26 57 1990 23 35 20 2000 23 43 44 2010 24* 00 00. As per thriganitha method Ayanamsa is
24* for this year. I do not know about vakiya panchangam method of ayanamsam.

Thank you. Vaakyam is vaak based. Nadi josiyam uses mainly vaak, which was written later in olai
chuvadi. amazing accuracy,with 12 kandams, even includes deeksha mantram for moksham. suka nadi,
agastiar nadi, bhrigu nadi are some famous examples of nadi josiyam. In Chennai there are many places
who practice this science even today and they even give pariharams for a peaceful happy life. The HQ
for nadi used to be in Thiruvanakkoil, Kumbakonam, TN, India.

Vakku is oral communication and Drik (Dhrishiti) means communication through observation. That is
how two Panchangams came into existence. It is possible oral communication can be distorted when
passed on from one person to the other but communication through Dhrishti is stable. (Our Maharishis
understood the mind through Gnanadhrishty). Hence Thirukkanitha (actually it is Drik) Panchangam is
more accurate .This is what I read in one Vedic literature.

'vaakya' denotes sentences, i.e., slokas from ancient texts like sUrya siddhAntha, on astronomy, which
give the method of calculating the position of the planets and the Sun based on formulae or equations
given therein. In India, there were thousands of different vaakya panchangams when we got
independence. The Government constituted a Committee to review the position and suggest ways for
standardization. Since these 'vaakya's were based on rough and incorrect observations made by
astronomers when they did not even have telescopes, the vaakya panchanga results are not correct. The
committee suggested adopting modern astronomical data based on actual scientific calculations
supported by accurate observations for our Panchangas; but this was not accepted by many of the local
vaakya panchanga makers. Still, a large number of people dealing with astrology found the sense in the
recommendations and adopted the modern astronomical data published in advance by prestgious
observatories of the world.

The second unscientific aspect of Indian astrology is that it does not take into account what is called
"precession of the equinoxes". In simple language, this means that the beginnings of the months of
Mesham (Chithirai) and Thulam (Aippasi) do not happen exactly at the same point in the sky every year;
the point goes backwards (compared to the Sun's path in the sky with reference to the stars) and it
takes about 21000 years to make a full circle. So when we want to make horoscope predictions, we
have to find out where each planet would have been if the beginning of Mesham was at the same point
as that which existed during the life time of our Rishi who gave the slokas. Unfortunately, our sages
probably did not know about this precession and so there is a lot of confusion as to when our ancient
astronomers gave the slokas regarding predictions, and how far the beginning point of Mesham has
travelled backwards since then. Different authorities swear by different values for this and adds to the

Thus we have a situation of selecting between two bad options, and of these, most of the drikganitha
panchangas (means, calculated as per actual observations) of today adopt accurate values for the
position of planets and differ only when they have to reduce it to the position of the olden days.

It is, therefore, best to celebrate festivals etc., along with the local people, instead of standing out for
the sake of one's own "vaakya panchaangam". As for horoscopes and predictions, there will be only
small differences in planetary positions even among the various authorities advocating different values
of the precession and our prediction capacity is not so high as to go wrong because of this.

Finally, there are the cases of twins born with a few minutes' difference and their horoscopes will be
more or less identical. But their lives and longevity will be sometimes quite different and no astrologer
will be able to predict these accurately. That is the limitation of astrology.