Hey Janel, Please don't take me wrong.

I am very glad that you took the initiative to
respond to this in the way you did. I was wondering when someone would have the
backbone to stand up for what they believe in. HOORAH to you. Also we do miss your
family and the girls. They are beautiful.
Let me begin by saying that only a few who are sincere inquirers of the truth will even try
to read this response. My response is not borne out of a momentary emotion and it is not
given to someone else teachings. My response is from years of study and trials. My
response is not based on a personal belief. It is based on the complete teaching of the
scripture and the overall context of the revealing of the heart of God. God has liberated
me from the false gospel and given me a true peace.
Now on the topic of our discussion let me say that I am not declaring that God wants His
people broke. Repeat; I am no way saying that God wants all of His people broke.
I am saying that the prosperity message, which says that if you pay your tithes and give
more than that to a local church, then God wants you to be rich, is UN-BIBLICAL and
UN-SCRIPTURAL. It is a concoction of part truth and twisted scripture that is used to
sidetrack Christians and the un-saved. The plan is to cause them to do what they should
do for God and others, which is good, however they do it out of a desire for gain instead
of out of a heart full of love and the direction of the Spirit.
Please know that I am not speaking of yours or anyone in particular. I am not judging
motives. I am addressing an issue from a scriptural standpoint and exposing the intent of
the enemy’s purpose behind the mask.
The idea, that if I have more to invest, then I will receive more back is a part truth of the
world system. There are many who have invested much and are broke. They are broke
because they did not invest wisely. They took chances. That is the same thing many
Christians do under the prosperity message. They take chances. They feel like less of a
Christian if they have less money. They try to give more to get more. It is a vicious catch
22, circle. Some try to manipulate God into giving them what they have declared in their
own heart to be their rightful part of the pie in the sky. They put their head down like a
bull and determine that they are going to get it right this time. They are going to make
God give them more money no matter what they have to do.
Now let me say this:
Mammon is a spirit. Mammon’s goal is to get our minds off of the real God and cause us
to allow ourselves to be controlled by Mammon, the spirit. He accomplishes this by one
of two ways, whichever is the most effective for a particular person. Some people are
controlled by the abundance of money. Some people are controlled by the lack of money.
One person thinks about and makes all spiritual decisions based on the ever present
concerns and cares of how much money they have. The other type makes the same
decisions based on how much money they do not have. In either case, mammon is calling
the shots.

God would honor that five dollars MORE than He would honor someone who had ten million and only gave ten thousand to the same person. If the word that to whom much is given. peace. I did not fully understand at the time and maybe even now do not fully comprehend the breadth of what I was instructed. The scripture says that it made them bitter. The kingdom is righteousness. Christ speaks to the heart and commands the root of bitterness to dry up. God does not require out of a person more than they have to give. Note it begins as a root. If a man tries to pluck out bitterness he would pull his whole heart and spirit out and destroy himself. The bible says that God sends the spirit in abundance. However. Lest a root of bitterness springing up. Money does not build the kingdom of God. Bitterness is also the plague of the last days that defiles many Christians and other people throughout the entire world. and joy in the Holy Ghost. Bitterness prevents people from being able to drink in and receive the Holy Spirit in fullness. He said that the sorcerer was in the gall of bitterness and iniquity. He exposes mans heart to the man himself through many dangers. They worked harder and harder to do what they were trying to do and it made them bitter to be under that system. So why do Christians feel convicted when they don’t have more than what they do have to give. . Then the same ten percent of my small amount would be required from the millionaire. We are to make decisions based on the direction of God at the leading of the Holy Spirit and the direction of the scriptures. He does this with truth. What is ten percent of three million? However that same millionaire is commanded to give to everyone that God puts in their lives that is without and has the . It is to be God controlled and directed. That person is following mammon and seeking money. toils.We are not to be making spiritual decisions based on the directions of mammon.. The devil does not want you to know that because it would be LIBERATING and free your mind and spirit to serve God with what you do have instead of trying to serve God with what you don’t have. . Money does not bring miracles. that is the same thing that Peter told the sorcerer when he tried to buy the things of God in Acts. much is required is to be taken as truth expressed from God. You may give five dollars to someone in need and that was all you had to give. The Egyptians put the burden of making more brick with less of what the children of Israel needed. God showed me a long time ago not to trust in what I had in my pocket/bank account etc. . That is the spirit that changes lives and brings about great miracles. and snares and then convicts the man to call on Jesus to heal the bitter heart/spirit. Which of those can be bought? If money keeps a person from any of those things then the person is not seeking first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness. I can say that I do comprehend now so much more than I did before that my quest is not to be Mammon oriented or Mammon directed or controlled. Ironically. It gets rooted in the heart and spirit and none can pluck it out but Christ Jesus.

a roof over our heads. . Do they do it? Has God stripped them of their money and given it to you or I or ten million other Christians throughout the entire world. (Deu 28:47) Because you did not serve the Lord your God with joyfulness of [mind and] heart [in gratitude] for the abundance of all [with which He had blessed you]. God has people with money in the church and people without money in the church. and “I can’t believe you don’t want me to be rich in mammon”. It robs a person of the liberating peace of knowing Jehovah Jireh the God who meets all my NEEDS according to His riches in glory. Moths and rust will have what is theirs for they did not sow into heaven where moths and rust can not destroy. “I can not believe that God wants His people to be poor”. rain. NO. A beautiful building and a . Those that declare such are in the gall of bitterness. given jobs and many other things of the world. . They are sowing bitterness into other peoples hearts. I said that myself one day. given good godly husbands and wives. “I can’t believe this is all you have for me”. Freely! He did not say you could earn it by giving to some preacher who already had more than enough for himself. They sowed and they are reaping what they sowed. sunshine. Deuteronomy 28 tells us that we will serve the world and Mammon because we did not serve the LORD with gladness of heart. and the list goes on and on as we sit in our padded pews trying to buy wealth from God as if to say. The Amplified version states in vs. clothes. met needs. and He will put a yoke of iron upon your neck until He has destroyed you. Now in the beginning of your post you said. They are not reaping righteousness. How can Gods people be poor when He owns everything. cars. He also nowhere says that He wants everyone RICH. in hunger and thirst. God has saved. Why do we feel like we are poor if we don’t have it in our bank accounts? Who accuses us that we are poor? Does God call us poor? NO! He says come to me for whatever you have need of and I will freely give it. They did not sow righteousness. It is a root that permeates the spirit and robs you of the joy of the Holy Spirit and righteousness.needs of this world. NO. (Deu 28:48) Therefore you shall serve your enemies whom the Lord shall send against you. It always has and always will be like that. They reap money. Now to put this in proper perspective. Bitterness is not a feeling. in nakedness and in want of all things. healed. They sowed money. To say that God has not blessed you abundantly and does not meet your needs is an accusation against the faithfulness of God. It robs a person of the peace of god that passes all understanding. NO. They are sowing bitterness because people get bitter after not receiving enough to do that which they believe they are supposed to have or do after long enough. He has given food. NOTE: He said freely. . God nowhere says that he wants everyone broke. He did not say that you would get rich by giving to an organization that was doing more to build their earthly kingdom than they were to build Gods kingdom. “where is mine?”. given beautiful children. Freely. I was wrong and so are the perpetrators of the name it claim it prosperity movement that is declaring to God. .

(Jud 1:15) To execute judgment upon all. It is a message that is deceiving Gods people in the last days just as it did in the earliest days. wandering stars. has more beautiful buildings. Behold. and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed. builds more schools. and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him. without fruit. feeding themselves = their own desire for gain. and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward. trees whose fruit withereth. trees with withering fruit = people who have bought into the message and then fall away when they see it doesn’t do what they were told and the only one who got rich was the one putting out the material books and teachings and received the offering for themselves to live sumptuously. . If it were an indication of Gods will for riches than we SHOULD ALL JOIN THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH because it is the wealthiest church in the world. plucked up by the roots. complainers. and their mouth speaketh great swelling words. (NOTE: lust for Mammon. (Jud 1:12) These are spots in your feasts of charity. twice dead. Because of status and charisma) (Jud 1:17) But. carried about of winds. beloved. (Jud 1:11) Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain. and perished in the gainsaying of Core. clouds without water = false promises of refreshing. who should walk after their own ungodly lusts. gives more money to the poor and so on and so on than ANY. to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever. saying. The wealth and prosperity gospel is not a gospel at all.) (Jud 1:13) Raging waves of the sea. when they feast with you. remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ. (Jud 1:16) These are murmurers. foaming out their own shame. prophesied of these. the seventh from Adam.lear jet are not an indication of Gods blessing on a particular group. walking after their own lusts. (Jud 1:18) How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time. feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water. It owns more real estate. ANY protestant church could ever hope to do. (NOTE: Because of wealth they are admired. (Jud 1:14) And Enoch also. having men's persons in admiration because of advantage. I repeat. ) . Jude says. the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints. winds = doctrines and teachings. without fruit = no true spiritual gain or fruit of the Spirit. (NOTE: spots in love feasts = church meetings.

and were persuaded of them. wealthy and wise. He had Job to pray for them. IT IS A LUST. Give us this day our daily bread. It is not a GRACE system. However in the church we many times accept the wrong things as fruit of the spirit. they appear to have the spirit or else this is a wasted warning. Freely you have received. According to them. sensual. . give out of that which you have received. but having seen them afar off. . We must learn from where our help comes from. But to say that God wants all of His people rich is a lie and a wrong draw card for the sinner. mammon.(Jud 1:19) These be they who separate themselves. Anything that you can sell as a way to gain is a false system. . and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. God gives to whom God wants to give to for a variety of reasons unknown to us. having not the Spirit. Stop feeling bad for what you don’t have. Those ideas and that system is an EARN it system. and embraced them. . It amazes me that we read a book written by men and women who (Heb 11:13) These all died in faith. It is not what you have in your pocket or your storehouse. We must learn to be in PEACE and that we can reach up to God when we have a need. They accused that since He had lost everything. . all Job had to do was to confess his sin and get right with God. etc. . which is un-merited. Any reason for getting saved other than I am a sinner with no hope but hell and I need the sacrifice of God in Christ Jesus. that he was out of Gods will and that if Job would only line himself up with Gods will that he would be healed and wealthy again. We don’t have any problem seeing the lack of fruit in the sinner. etc. To say that I can not believe that God wants us poor is accurate because there is no place that says that God wants all people generically poor. Not only had they wrongly accused Job but in doing so they had falsely accused God. etc. of extending this grace based on the ideas of mammon. Wealth is not a NEED. is a false conversion and a false hope and evidence that the seed fell on stoney ground and THE CARES of THIS WORLD. God rebuked them for their counsel and would not even hear their prayers. God has to show us that everything that shouts is not having the spirit) Some people can not believe that God exists. help people. It is who you know and where to go when you know that you don’t have enough. not having received the promises. Jobs friends were under the same delusion that if a person is in Gods will that they will be healthy. Give out of what you have. When you don’t have bread for your friend at midnight. all these will be added to mean that if we get saved we have it made in this world. know where to go for them. (NOTE: They raise themselves above everyone else. be wealthier. That does not make it so. have choked it out and caused it to bring forth no fruit to perfection. gain health. We must learn to rest in that God who will meet EVERY NEED. We take the verse which says to seek first the kingdom and . They were in effect accusing God of a GRACE. So many get saved under the prosperity gospel because they want to feel better.

God has provided for both. We get what we want. how great is that darkness! . James and John. He also never said that we were all to be generically included in the bankruptcy side. Why do we go in debt? Because we finance and as soon as we get out of debt. However God never said that everybody who is saved is supposed to be generically included in one category such as the wealth side. . that shall he also reap. Elijah. where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt. The other way is bankruptcy. How many preachers and showman with gifts of charisma would refuse to pay their bills from the offering bag? Very few!!!!! It all belonged to Jesus but He chooses to get His from the abundance of heaven rather than the abundance of men and mammon. but Jesus knew where to go for it. And remember if we sow to the flesh we shall of the flesh reap destruction. and where thieves do not break through nor steal: (Mat 6:21) For where your treasure is. but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. (Gal 6:8) For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption. Run from the prosperity gospel. Don’t you find it amazing that Jesus did not even pay His own tax from the money bag. we do it again. when we want. We don’t wait on God. thy whole body shall be full of darkness. God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth. Why didn’t He pay it out of the riches that Judas was carrying around? Judas didn’t have enough money to feed everybody at the feeding of the 5’000. Which one did anything for God based on HOW MUCH MONEY THEY HAD? If we are pilgrims and strangers on this earth why do we want to have so much of it? Why do you think that our teaching is mocked by so many people? We can’t tell them to be willing to sell out to God and take all and give to the poor if our emphasis is to get rich. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness. and then try to manipulate and manage God into taking care of it. Elisha. (Mat 6:20) But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven. . (Gal 6:7) Be not deceived. (Mat 6:22) The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single. All of the disciples and Jesus together did not have enough. All are overlooked as we look into their lives as our examples. there will your heart be also. Now let me say that God does not want us to struggle to pay our bills. Serve God with Joy and gladness for the ABUNDANCE of all that is available as you have need. . Peter died broke in this world but rich in heaven. He does not even want us in debt.In the New Testament we read of how Peter was directed to go get his tax from a fish’s mouth. Paul died broke in this world but rich in heaven. One is wealth. We borrow. There are only two ways out of debt. (Mat 6:23) But if thine eye be evil. thy whole body shall be full of light.

and the body than raiment? (Mat 6:26) Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not. neither be ye of doubtful mind. how much more will he clothe you. nor yet for your body. lest we should hinder the gospel of Christ. what ye shall put on. and another reapeth. is it a great thing if we shall reap your carnal things? (1Co 9:12) If others be partakers of this power over you. (Luk 12:24) Consider the ravens: for they neither sow nor reap. (Joh 4:37) And herein is that saying true. little flock. or what ye shall drink. Are ye not much better than they? (Mat 6:27) Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature? NOTE: They neither sow nor reap is used as an example of Gods providence. (1Co 9:11) If we have sown unto you spiritual things. and yet I say unto you. O ye of little faith? (Luk 12:29) And seek not ye what ye shall eat. they spin not. and give alms. are not we rather? Nevertheless we have not used this power. and love the other. (Mat 6:25) Therefore I say unto you. where no thief approacheth. or else he will hold to the one. neither moth corrupteth. and all these things shall be added unto you. which is to day in the field. and God feedeth them: how much more are ye better than the fowls? (Luk 12:25) And which of you with taking thought can add to his stature one cubit? (Luk 12:26) If ye then be not able to do that thing which is least. but suffer all things. why take ye thought for the rest? (Luk 12:27) Consider the lilies how they grow: they toil not. (Luk 12:34) For where your treasure is. (Luk 12:32) Fear not. (Luk 12:30) For all these things do the nations of the world seek after: and your Father knoweth that ye have need of these things. provide yourselves bags which wax not old. (Luk 12:28) If then God so clothe the grass. (Joh 4:38) I sent you to reap that whereon ye bestowed no labour: other men laboured. and to morrow is cast into the oven. Take no thought for your life. what ye shall eat. (Luk 12:33) Sell that ye have. or what ye shall drink. yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. neither do they reap. and ye are entered into their labours. nor gather into barns. One soweth.(Mat 6:24) No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one. there will your heart be also. (Luk 12:31) But rather seek ye the kingdom of God. a treasure in the heavens that faileth not. Is not the life more than meat. NOTE: Can you see the inconsistencies presented? Paul said to the Corinthians. which neither have storehouse nor barn. and despise the other. . for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom. that Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.

NOTE: Sparingly means less than you are able to and less than a loving heart would purpose to give for the situation. That is the kind of giving that God notices. That is like saying that Hey God. Sow contentment and peace and you will reap contentment and peace. Be reminded that Judas did not really care about the hungry or the naked. I love ya sister. What hindered the gospel? Exercising the power to take money from the people. (2Co 9:7) Every man according as he purposeth in his heart. But Jesus is God. You don’t have to be rich to give joyfully. It is one thing to freely receive gifts that are given out of a heart led by God. As the scripture says. The best kind of giving is not to a rich church that is hoarding and trying to grow their own status but rather to the needy who God has allowed you to come into contact with in your life. You just have to have something. It is another thing to preach. ANYONE can give out of what they have cheerfully if you know that God will make up the difference. I want it all in my own name please. Remember Grace is UN-merited. we will loose the grace that may make it so if it is to be. teach and insist that you give if you want to be blessed. knows my heart. we will begin to overlook and be dis-satisfied with all of the small daily blessings that God loads on us daily. We will be unappreciative of what we did get because of what we do not yet have. I’m counting on you. like so many people like to proclaim about themselves. God is faithful and full of grace and knows exactly how to get what you need to you without your help or persuasion. I know a man who was once given a city. If we are expecting great riches and ever so much desiring such. friends. As soon as you and I stop believing that without a doubt. so let him give. Be content with what you have been given. God wants us to be rich in this world. I like what you have done here but it really isn’t enough you know. and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully. not grudgingly. Jesus said . and God. This is the way of God for all mankind. Your part is to ask and not to ask amiss so that you may consume it on your own lusts. or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver. He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly.NOTE: Paul said he did not take the carnal things from them so that the gospel would not be hindered. God is not impressed with a feigned giving. (2Co 9:6) But this I say. He even tried to convince Jesus that He wanted the money to give to the poor. his care was for the mammon. The widow at the treasury gave her mite out of love and desire to help even though she did not have much. The widow at Nain had one meal left. neighbors and people you meet. Your own family. She gave. Instead of rejoicing in that and committing all to that. However God loves a cheerful giver. this man got swelled up and started making plans to take the world. .

Do you believe that God can give rest without wealth? I do. .He said all who are burdened and heavy laden come unto me and I will give you rest.