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thoughts from a member of the Editorial Board

Structural Engineering That OffShore Engineering Won’t Touch


By Craig E. Barnes, P.E., SECB
Lift your head from your computer screen long enough and
you hear about BIG business, BIG oil, BIG toy recalls, BIG
hamburger recalls. Thumb through a few issues of
STRUCTURE® and you find that many feature articles
are BIG projects. All around us ….BIG, BIG, BIG!!!



Big engineering projects are very attractive to off- C
shore entities. Which of you firm owners have not
been exposed to some ad or mailer that promises
ten- fifteen- or twenty-five dollars an hour for your
BIG projects to be designed off-shore? Why bother
to have BIG engineering firms when projects can
be done off-shore for peanuts? Some architects
love the concept. Why pay a BIG engineering firm
with a BIG office, BIG bucks when you can have
your BIG projects engineered for cheap? Some call
the concept of BIGness and the intrusion of off-shore
firms as progress, while others lament the downfall of
engineering in this country and the commoditization of
structural engineering.
Step back from that cacophony for a moment; listen to the
conversation and you hear an undertone of small. How many
times have we heard our legislators tell us that small business is
the work horse of the economy? I don’t recall the study, but
somewhere I do remember a suggestion that more than 75% of
all construction in this country involve structures that are three
stories or less. Look at your own state professional association.
How much of the membership comes from BIG engineering
firms? Off-shores are promising instant results and cheap, cheap,
cheap fees for projects of small scope as well. Domestic engineers
earning an income from projects of that nature are under attack
on two fronts. Not only is the fifteen dollar an hour off-shore
engineer seeking to push you to the bread line, but “shockingly”
often so is your architect benefactor. Do you recall the structural
engineering software firm sweet talking architects by suggesting
that the architects should be purchasing their software and
in a matter of less than two projects the entire cost would be
recovered in fees that they no longer had to pay their structural
engineer? If you don’t recall, or have mentally suppressed the
event, the matter is fact. Think of it! In Illinois, where architects










can stamp anything, BIG and
small structural firms could be put
out of business by architectural
firms willing to take the risk. It’s
a dizzying world out there!
I will briefly address what
is well known by a segment
of the structural engineering
community that provides a lot of
grease to the wheels of the economy.
Most everyone reading this article is
thinking of entire buildings. As students,
we learned analysis, we studied design,
we learned how to design beams columns,
foundations etc. etc. etc, and when we left school
we knew we would be making great contributions
to society by designing buildings or bridges to be
built by others. When I left a BIG engineering firm
and started my own practice in 1984, I certainly
wasn’t starting BIG. I knew that in order to attract
clients I would have to engineer everything.
Yes, I would do buildings, and I’ve even done a
few bridges, and yes I’ll admit it, I promised good
service cheap, but not at off-shore prices. I grew past
that and now I can rail at those who provide cheap
engineering as a way of life. They need to grow up and
start charging reasonable fees or the entire profession
will be drawn down.
With that diversion, I am way off my story line. As I
was developing as an engineer, I taught at the Boston
Architectural College (BAC). It was not for income, as
the service provided by the instructors at the BAC was
a pro bono activity. It was considered a right of passage
for a structural, mechanical, or electrical engineer in
Boston to share their experience with students training
to be Architects. Surprisingly, after graduation, those
same students returned to ask for my assistance as they
were moonlighting or starting a small firm, trying to
compete the best way they could in a cold world. I helped
those young architects. Their work helped keep me alive
and grow my firm. Often those commissions were for no

Editorial Board

Jon A. Schmidt, P.E., SECB
Burns & McDonnell
Kansas City, MO

Executive Editor

Jeanne M. Vogelzang
Chicago, IL

Craig E. Barnes, P.E., S.E.

Mark W. Holmberg, P.E.

CBI Consulting, Inc.
Boston, MA

Heath & Lineback Engineers, Inc
Marietta, GA

Daniel Falconer, P. E.

Brian J. Leshko, P.E.

American Concrete Institute
Farmington Hills, MI

Richard Hess, S.E., SECB
Hess Engineering Inc.
Los Alamitos, CA

HDR Engineering, Inc.
Pittsburgh, PA

John A. Mercer

Mercer Engineering, PC
Minot, ND

STRUCTURE magazine


Brian W. Miller
Davis, CA

Greg Schindler, P.E., S.E.
KPFF Consulting Engineers
Seattle, WA

Evans Mountzouris, P.E. Stephen P. Schneider, Ph.D., P.E.
The DiSalvo Ericson Group
Ridgefield, CT

Matthew Salveson, P.E.
Dokken Engineering
Folsom, CA

February 2008

Kramer Gehlen & Associates, Inc.
Vancouver, WA

John “Buddy” Showalter, P.E.

AF & PA/American Wood Council
Washington, DC

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