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Moderator: Amanda Altschuler
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Moderator: Amanda Altschuler
July 10, 2012
12:00 pm CT


Ladies and gentlemen thank you for standing by and welcome to the Suits
conference call with Aaron Korsh.

Aaron Korsh:



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Afterwards we will conduct a question and answer session. At that time if you
have a question please press star then the number 1 on your telephone. If
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As a reminder, this conference is being recorded, July 10th. I would now like
to hand the floor over to Ms. Cary. Please go ahead.

Amanda Cary:

Hi everybody. Thank you so much for joining our call today for Suits with our
show’s creator, writer and executive producer, Aaron Korsh. Suits airs
Thursdays at 10:00 pm on USA. We will have a transcript available for this

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So if you’d like that or if you have any questions you can reach out to me at
Amanda dot Cary, C-A-R-Y at And without further ado
I’ll turn it over to (Vernell) to go ahead and get our Q&A started.

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If you are using a speakerphone please lift your handset before entering your
request. One moment for your first question. And our first question is from the
line of Jamie Ruby.

Jamie Ruby:

Hi. Thanks so much for talking to us today.

Aaron Korsh:

You’re welcome.

Jamie Ruby:

So can you talk about some of the changes this season, especially since now
that Hardman’s back?

Aaron Korsh:

Sure. I will say that, you know, last season we ended obviously on the
cliffhanger with Trevor and it was a challenge to kind of make it, you know,
the challenge that we basically had was we didn’t want to run away from it
and have at the last second, you know, Trevor take his, you know, not say
what Mike did or, you know, basically cheat the audience in some way.
So we wanted to kind of embrace, you know, take it head on and embrace that
challenge. And we thought the way to do that would be to bring in Hardman
because all of us wondered like who is this Hardman? We, the writers

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wondered it. I originally put him in the pilot but the character kind of changed
a little bit.
I know the fans wondered who he was and it just seemed like a perfect fit to
bring him in and let him be the foil that kind of, you know, solved the problem
of how to keep Mike in the firm and still have Jessica find out about his
secrets. So that was kind of the impetus of bringing Hardman along.
And the other thing is I just felt like a lot of shows that I’m a big fan of often
do some sort of - they bring in an outside character as a foil and they kind of
do a Civil War type thing and it just appealed to me so that’s what we did.
And it allows, you know, bringing Hardman in allows the different characters
to shift their dynamics and test their loyalties to each other and themselves.
Jamie Ruby:

Definitely. Can you talk about how originally you got the idea from the show
when it first started?

Aaron Korsh:

Sure. It was around the time of the writers’ strike. It was just ending. I think it
was like 2007. And I’d been somewhat of a struggling - I’d been a writer’s
assistant, I’d been staffed a few times in the comedy world but I was
struggling. It was hard to make it.
And my agent suggested to me that I write a show about my time - I worked
on Wall Street as an investment banker for about - in New York for about five
So he said I was always telling him stories about those times, why don’t I
write something about that? Basically just to write a spec pilot to try to get a

I was 21. almost like Entourage on Wall So how did that not work out. Jamie Ruby: Okay. because I mean well. right? Aaron Korsh: It was. He was about 26 but he seemed like so much older than me. it kind of just came out the way it was as an hour long show with more dramatic bent to it than comedic and that’s.. I have seen the uncut pilot.360I Moderator: Amanda Altschuler 07-10-12/12:00 pm CT Confirmation # 21598984 Page 4 job. (Alexandra Veshetta): Yes. that’s kind of what it was. (Alexandra Veshetta): Since you mentioned Hardman in the pilot.. great. I’m a major fan of Alias so of course I’m a major fan of Victor Garber and I think that if there’s anyone who can intimidate Harvey that is Jack Bristow. And when I sat down to write it. Our next question is from the line of (Alexandra Veshetta) with (Accidental) (Unintelligible). Thanks so much. he was like kind of (unintelligible). Operator: Thank you. Aaron Korsh: Thank you. I mean. You know. you know. (Alexandra Veshetta): Hi. It was. So that’s where the impetus for the show came from. very fun type of thing. I originally thought it was going to be a half hour. I don’t know if it’s widely known or not but my first boss’s name was Harvey. so was it Victor Garber who played him. It’s a pleasure to talk with you. .

So by that time . (Alexandra Veshetta): Yeah. The international version was able to be much longer but the version in the USA.. And sometimes.360I Moderator: Amanda Altschuler 07-10-12/12:00 pm CT Confirmation # 21598984 Page 5 Aaron Korsh: Absolutely. . Well basically we thought he did an amazing job but we thought he actually did work out well.when you get in the edit bay you have to make some hard choices often.we had some time problems with the pilot.. But that character was kind of originally thought of .it just wasn’t going to work out to bring him back in the newly constructed character. Aaron Korsh: No. sometimes you can cut lines within scenes and that will get you down to time. you know. So we made the tough decision to cut that character out because .. And sometimes you just need to cut whole scenes. you we cut it out for time but then we thought it adds a lot more to the show if Hardman is a bad the time that.that Hardman.and what..did not. And when we were .it was basically . We just didn’t think he would probably be interested in that so we moved on from it. you’re absolutely right.. we decided to bring him back Victor Garber .it was kind of twofold. Aaron Korsh: . (Alexandra Veshetta): . you know.. You’re not going to make it just by cutting within scenes. But the . the version of him was as Jessica’s mentor and they were friends. in America. I mean it was all driven by time because I thought those scenes were great.. So we had to .

Season I think mainly one but also two. A very . And he . the second round of Hardman. (Alexandra Veshetta): So you basically . And we couldn’t really find the right person for that. you know. But what I did see him on and what I got to know him on was he was on Damages. when we were looking at Hardmans. Aaron Korsh: Oh. in the audition and he was so good we just thought this is the way to go. And I had never forgotten just from his small role in Damages. . And JJ Abrams said that he thought he was terrific and they wanted to find a way to bring him back to the show. And he was such a powerful role. we were looking at a ton of different people. well I will tell you I did not see him on Person of Interest I’m sorry to say. And he came actually picked for Daniel Hardman who is terrific by the way. Aaron Korsh: Oh. you know. he’s a great.yeah.he had been Harvey-like when he was young in looks and demeanor. so you basically picked the second big .the whole thing was just curious because it was a whole JJ Abrams all over it which was kind of curious. And the interesting thing about the new actor as well is that there’s a curious connection because he was on Person of Interest last season which is a JJ Abrams show. he was going to be almost like he had been a young .not a large role but he had this quiet power that I never forgot. And one of the writers repitched me David Costable.originally we were going to make Hardman.360I Moderator: Amanda Altschuler 07-10-12/12:00 pm CT Confirmation # 21598984 Page 6 (Alexandra Veshetta): All right. great actor and there’s still this connection which I found . And.

. And Monica is somewhat of a key component. you know. and it was . We wanted to move the story at least a little bit forward in the present day.who has a major past with them. First of all.. Aaron Korsh: Oh. We didn’t just want to go into the past.oh wait.five years ago. it’s .360I Moderator: Amanda Altschuler 07-10-12/12:00 pm CT Confirmation # 21598984 Page 7 (Alexandra Veshetta): Oh yeah.we thought it would be interesting to shed some light on these characters’ pasts.. Could you tell us a bit more about her and this rewind episode? Aaron Korsh: Absolutely. you know. there’s also . (Alexandra Veshetta): Yeah.when I saw him playing Daniel Hardman . (Alexandra Veshetta): Yeah. And he played a judge on Person of Interest. when they first met and Trevor. speaking of Daniel Hardman I know that there’s a character called Monica that we will get to meet in . So it’s a flashback episode but also has implications for today. Well basically the rewind episode is kind of.the whole thing was just . Definitely good. It tells the story of Mike and Jenny.anyway.. It was ..the purpose of it is . Aaron Korsh: . You’re going to find out about everybody’s past because it flashes back to. (Alexandra Veshetta): . Aaron Korsh: Oh.... So you’re going to find out a little bit more about Harvey’s past. that dude.within a few episodes.

360I Moderator: Amanda Altschuler 07-10-12/12:00 pm CT Confirmation # 21598984 Page 8 Zoe. I don’t want to give too much away. both Monica. But she’s got a history with everyone at the firm and she left under . (Alexandra Veshetta): Thank you. correct? Aaron Korsh: I say. Aaron Korsh: You’re welcome. everyone. And she interacts mainly with Louis in the episode in the past and Mike in the episode in the present. under cloudy circumstances.. Reg Seeton: Hi Aaron. Aaron Korsh: You’re welcome. Jessica. another woman. Thanks for taking the call. Our next question is from the line of Reg Seeton with www. Aaron Korsh: Jacinda Barrett. But Monica has a past at the firm. (Alexandra Veshetta): Right. A couple of women from Harvey’s past are prevalent in the episode. Harvey.her departure affects Rachel. She left the firm under kind of cloudy circumstances and she plays both a role in the past and in the present. you know. .TheDeadbolt. Jacinda. And she . Louis. And then Mike has to kind of seek her out for some help in the present day. (Alexandra Veshetta): Zoe is played by Gabriel Macht’s wife. But Monica is.. Operator: Thank you.

so there’s no doubt that I struggled. kind of pet peeves when I watch a cliffhanger and then you come back and they kind of ignore it or change it or something. I struggled with the decision but I was confident that we .for me that we made the right decision.the shooting of the finale last year where I was like are we. We are constantly. now and much of the day just do an amazing job of coming up with ideas and things to handle. you know. If I wasn’t going to reveal Mike’s secret to Jessica I would have taken out Trevor coming into the firm because then I would have felt that you got ripped off. So I think.360I Moderator: Amanda Altschuler 07-10-12/12:00 pm CT Confirmation # 21598984 Page 9 Reg Seeton: So the second season. you know. up until the last minute I was like are we really going to do this? Are we really going to have Trevor come in and tell Jessica? And I wasn’t sure but we thought we’d film it. . They always come up with more ideas than it’s possible to fit into a season. I have to say the writers that are in the room. you know. you know. It was during the finale of . was it always planned to have Mike’s secret revealed in the premier or did you struggle to make the right decision with that? Aaron Korsh: Well I definitely . We could always cut it if we didn’t want to put it in. And I just wanted to assure myself that we’d be able to resolve it in a satisfactory way because it’s one of my. Reg Seeton: Well how much of a challenge is it to balance what’s going to happen with Mike amid what could happen to Harvey and Jessica with Hardman in the picture? Aaron Korsh: It’s a big challenge. you know.

moving forward in a satisfactory way without going so far and so fast that you don’t still have a place to go. With Louis feeling like he’ll never make senior partner how important was it to show some sort of professional aftermath from Jessica coming down on him? Aaron Korsh: From Jessica coming down on him in which episode? Reg Seeton: Well basically when was when he decided oh. you know. gets the .360I Moderator: Amanda Altschuler 07-10-12/12:00 pm CT Confirmation # 21598984 Page 10 So we just try to balance like you say. Reg Seeton: I just have one final question for you. So it’s a big challenge and they generate. you know. So it . you definitely have to pay off some form of Louis’s dissatisfaction with Jessica which really goes back. Well I mean that was a setup. So we thought it’s a natural fit for them to at least flirt with. maybe I should leave the firm. bonding together and Louis going over to that side. And if any of our characters had been set up to have a hazier moral compass than the rest of them it’s Louis.we have to . you know. You know. look Hardman coming back in our minds was like Hardman in the past had had kind of a hazy moral compass. you know. the episodes that are kind of about to be shot. okay. Aaron Korsh: Oh. the lion’s share of the ideas come from them. And then I’ll respond to those ideas and try to shape them as best I can while at the same time working on. from that? Oh. .

you know. you know. And then we made sure to lay it in again in the finale when he demands to be senior partner. (Meg Mamira): I would like to find out how you created this Mike character because he’s very brilliant and he does his job well but at the same time he has empathy for people. .. So it’s definitely a theme throughout the season of Louis.360I Moderator: Amanda Altschuler 07-10-12/12:00 pm CT Confirmation # 21598984 Page 11 I mean it goes back to the pilot when she promotes Harvey over him. he again wants assurance from Jessica that he’s valued by her. people of brilliant minds. And in my experience. what side is Louis going to come . they usually don’t have that kind of empathy for other people because they think they are the smartest people in the world. Aaron Korsh: Wow.ultimately come down on? Reg Seeton: Great.. Aaron Korsh: You’re welcome. It’s very nice to meet you on the phone. Our next question is from the line of (Meg Mamira) with Lighthouse. Korsh. Thank you very much. Aaron Korsh: Nice to meet you too. Operator: Thank you. And then here. (Meg Mamira): Hi Mr. especially victims and people who are in a powerless position. So I’m just so curious because I’ve never seen a character like this. Hardman comes back and.

. (Meg Mamira): Okay.I was a kid. Aaron Korsh: Okay.. you know. I mean Mike is based on me. But I was able to do very well academically with little to no effort and it was both I would say a blessing and a curse. intrigued.smoked a lot of pot in my life.360I Moderator: Amanda Altschuler 07-10-12/12:00 pm CT Confirmation # 21598984 Page 12 (Meg Mamira): . So that kind of comes from my biggest fear. Growing up I had that kind of past. So I’m so attracted to this character. I couldn’t read and (recite) it to you.I will just be candid. Like in some ways I could do really well but it put this pressure on me to do really well without trying. (Meg Mamira): Okay. okay? When I was younger. In addition to that I .on TV. you know. Or I kind of put that pressure on myself because to impress people and show them how smart I was.. Well I don’t want to . going to a good school and I did work on Wall Street and everybody at that first firm that .obviously he’s an exaggerated version. I just did well academically. Aaron Korsh: . And because of that.. I had an excellent memory. I did not have a photographic memory. Aaron Korsh: I don’t know if I have the empathy . But that’s where Mike’s thinking. when Harvey in the pilot says you’re not as smart as you think you are and that’s his biggest fear is that he’s not really as smart as he thinks he is.since this call is being taped I’m going to say I may or may not have done a lot . even though I ended up. you know... I grew up.

360I Moderator: Amanda Altschuler 07-10-12/12:00 pm CT Confirmation # 21598984 Page 13 I worked at.we amped that up because. it made him . Yale or Wharton the Harvard guys hired Harvard guys. But I . But. They’re not beneath you. And you just was just outside Philadelphia and it was all different socioeconomic backgrounds and all different (kids). So that’s where the Mike character was born.I don’t know that I have the empathy that Mike does but. that’s. They’re just another person so you relate to them. Now obviously I went to Wharton and I graduated but the Mike character is based on feelings that I had of feeling like a fraud and using drugs and just being dissatisfied with my situation in spite of being able outwardly. . They’re not above you. the Yale guys hired Yale guys and Wharton guys hired Wharton guys.. you know. it wasn’t like a dictate but everybody either went to Harvard.if you’re going to have someone that’s cocky it helps that they also care about other people I weren’t allowed to get away with being too above people. we grew up in a town that had people of all different . to do well and keep up the job so to speak. you know. right? You were just living with a lot of different people of all kinds. Now I feel like . (Meg Mamira): Okay. So that’s where. And it kind of taught me that when you have a person in front of them they’re a person. you know. I was like smoking pot while I was working there and I always felt . So I think that’s where Mike’s empathy comes from. you know.I felt like a fraud.

And I’ll just say. you know. I had this mentor Harvey. a lot of your tweets and your writeups and. you know. you know. Thank you very much. this world through Mike’s eyes with is that exaggerated sense of how important everything is. Like I was only 21 but it’s your first job and it seems so important.360I Moderator: Amanda Altschuler 07-10-12/12:00 pm CT Confirmation # 21598984 Page 14 Aaron Korsh: . I never thought it would have the kind of response that it does. by the way I’ll say it so everyone can listen. And. to go back to someone else’s question before. the response to the show is overwhelming to me. we’re just trying to do the best we can.where it basically came from. it’s really moving for me. And that’s what we try to imbue... when I first started working on Wall Street I was 21. I can’t get enough of it. I really love it so thank you very much. I love this show. So please keep up the good work. (Meg Mamira): Well you’ve done so well. (Meg Mamira): It’s a wonderfully executed show. Aaron Korsh: Thanks.. And look. you know.. I really appreciate it and I never thought. and to me everything was so important back then. (Fabiola Avelo): Hello? Aaron Korsh: Hello? . Aaron Korsh: Okay. Our next question is from the line of (Fabiola Avelo) from. you know. I read and watch a lot. Operator: Thank you.

Thank you. I actually interviewed to write on that show and I didn’t get the job.. another show like Franklin & Bash for the chemistry that the characters have? Aaron Korsh: Well I can tell you the show . Korsh. this is according to what they told me when I interviewed. is there anything . .is there a comparison between (unintelligible) I don’t know.. And therefore I think our story lines tend to be a little bit more dramatic. (Fabiola Avelo): Hi Mr.. (Fabiola Avelo): Yes. you know.we’re watching the show in Latin America. But I think it is similar in the sense that it’s got two.. I think the difference between Franklin & Bash. How are you? Aaron Korsh: Good. the first season.I have only seen the first episode of Franklin & Bash. How are you? (Fabiola Avelo): Fine.we look at Suits like it’s a drama. So what can be said about the show? Is there anything that . And I think. Aaron Korsh: . young lawyers that get along well together.360I Moderator: Amanda Altschuler 07-10-12/12:00 pm CT Confirmation # 21598984 Page 15 Operator: . was they look at that show as though it’s a comedy.. We try to make it funny but we really do think of it as a drama first and a comedy second.(Elsevier) Newspaper. a little more serious and let the comedy kind of play where it can.. My question is.

you know what. (Fabiola Avelo): Okay. Can you say that one more time? (Fabiola Avelo): Yeah. So is there anything that you take in reality in order to make the show or like Law & Order .as things change it tests other people’s loyalties. It becomes more of an ensemble I think in the second season. you know. especially in the first rule has always been it doesn’t have to be real. So finally for me is what do you think that the people can relate to in those shows? What do you think that the people like about these kinds of shows? . Mike. in and amongst themselves. told through this relationship mainly with Harvey. So we try to stay away from real cases. it just kind of has to seem real because sometimes the way it would be. (Fabiola Avelo): Okay. use a little piece of something. Sometimes obviously we’ll know about a case or about something that will inspire us to. you know.the possibility of redemption in this young character. We try not to use real cases just because. And at the core of the show to me is the loyalty these two guys have and how it grows between each other. you know. Is there any chance that you put on the TV some real cases that we’ve been watching? Aaron Korsh: Oh no.these or something? Aaron Korsh: I’m me it’s a story about the redemption . we don’t our depiction of the law . But I think it’s basically a story about . But for the most part we just make them up. And then the . in reality is just not as interesting or exciting.360I Moderator: Amanda Altschuler 07-10-12/12:00 pm CT Confirmation # 21598984 Page 16 So that’s the main difference.

I think people love Harvey. season one . when I originally wrote the pilot they were not lawyers. Bill Peloquin: Hi Aaron. to kind of see who he’s going to end up with. My first question is I was just looking back on season one.I’ll say. I think that’s probably the success of the show. Aaron Korsh: You’re welcome Bill. Bill Peloquin: You too. Mike with Harvey. Operator: Thank you. who is a fan of the show at least. you know. that’s a good question. for lack of a better word. what were some of the things that you wanted to improve upon or do differently in season two? And have you had the chance to do that so far this season? Aaron Korsh: Oh. (Fabiola Avelo): Okay. of a it was like a serialized drama.360I Moderator: Amanda Altschuler 07-10-12/12:00 pm CT Confirmation # 21598984 Page 17 Aaron Korsh: I think what people tend to like is they seem to like the banter of most of the characters but in particular. And then as the show grows people seem to love Donna and they root for Mike and Rachel and Jenny and. I think everyone seems to find a character. Nice to meet you. you know. Thanks for taking our call. You know. Thank you sir. . Well. finds a character that they relate to and that they see some part of themselves in. they were investment bankers. And it was intended to be much more. Our next question is from the line of Bill Peloquin with Blast Magazine. Aaron Korsh: You’re welcome.

Bill Peloquin: Yeah. So we had . And I think we’ve.. . of it. And I just think that that really. there’s not a whole time about the cases and it’s just a lot more focused on the characters. not to make it go away. That’s kind of how they think about it sometimes. you know. There were certainly serialized elements to it but less so. So we made . They needed a procedural element. done a good job with doing that. And therefore we’re able to kind of dwell on the character dynamics a little bit more. helps the show be as great as it is.that was the impetus for making them lawyers. So I think that was really a great move by you guys. you know.360I Moderator: Amanda Altschuler 07-10-12/12:00 pm CT Confirmation # 21598984 Page 18 It wasn’t going to be a case of the week type show. you know.that’s why we made it .it was more of a stand alone episode. been able to do that.. I think that’s something that I really loved about the show so far is that unlike some other shows. encouraged to play the procedural element and what I’ll call the puppy of the week. you know. a case of the week that could be closed ended. but to make it. did not do that. change the percentage so to speak. And in the first season I think we were. So. And in the second season what we wanted to do and with the network’s encouragement was to diminish the procedural aspect. And it’s very difficult to make shows like that on TV these days and USA at the time.the outside cases were much larger in scope and therefore each episode had .

lawyers that Pearson. Harvey himself? Aaron Korsh: You know. hopefully it’ll be successful. They still really allowed us to do a lot of character stuff. I just feel like we live in a .360I Moderator: Amanda Altschuler 07-10-12/12:00 pm CT Confirmation # 21598984 Page 19 Aaron Korsh: I appreciate that.and I love them all. it’s funny. And for me . But in the second season they actually said hey. you know. And I’ll give the network credit. So I didn’t really say I need to specifically make these. Rachel and Donna are all really strong female characters. I had always initially wanted to do that but we had gone away from that a little bit in the first season. you know. they encouraged us to do it and it was. you know. But the one exception I guess now that I’m thinking about that I will say to that. Bill Peloquin: Great. is I don’t even know if Gina Torres knows this but originally. you know. I have been told time and again. great female characters. I mean they kind of recognized that and. you interact with men and with women and you want to have a rounded out world with people of all genders. I don’t think in terms of do we need male characters and female characters. And Jessica. So was it important to you to create a number of strong female roles kind of to balance out the machismo of some of the. Hardman in particular. And I want all of my characters to be strong and interesting and funny.I just feel like it’s a natural thing. . how awesome our female characters are. you know. in the original pilot the Jessica character was a man. I just wanted to populate a realistic world and these are the women that came out. That you live in a world.

Me too. we need this character to be a woman. Aaron Korsh: Yeah. tells him that he’s the hardest working person in the whole firm. Aaron Korsh: You know. Like the writers as I say. And by then I loved it so much as a woman I thought it was such a great idea that I was like no. it’s funny that might be one of my favorite scenes. Bill Peloquin: Me too. you know. And I was like but this is who it is. And then at some point they questioned it and thought maybe we should put it back to a man. Aaron Korsh: Yeah. Bill Peloquin: My last question . There are so many of my favorite scenes it’s hard for me to say.360I Moderator: Amanda Altschuler 07-10-12/12:00 pm CT Confirmation # 21598984 Page 20 And the studio encouraged me to make it a woman. And at first I resisted only because I don’t like change and they were trying to dictate some change to me. Bill Peloquin: And I just wanted to know like what went into writing that scene? What made you decide that you wanted to put that scene in because it was just so well done? I just loved it so much.. they come up with so many great ideas and so many great stories and they’ll usually like kind of . we’re in the room. And then I embraced it and I loved it. But I can’t. Bill Peloquin: That’s really interesting. Aaron Korsh: You know.I just wanted to talk about my favorite scene so far this season. was that scene between Harvey and Louis in which Harvey actually backs Louis up and..

It’s just never as simple as I do like them or I don’t like them. what usually happens is we’ll come up with the story collectively in the room and then the writer writes and outline. So it just kind of came out. And sometimes you like them. I’ll pick and choose the things I like about it. So Erica and I wrote that scene together and we had so much fun doing it. you know. and then sometimes you’ll run into them in a Starbucks and you’ll see them in their day clothes and maybe they’re with their wife and child and you’re like oh. you know. And then Erica Lipez. we’ll go through it and I will do the rewrite with the writer. sometimes they piss you off and sometimes you don’t like them.I play a lot of basketball. you know. less now that I’m so busy.360I Moderator: Amanda Altschuler 07-10-12/12:00 pm CT Confirmation # 21598984 Page 21 pitch me the bones of the story. And it was just a great time. I told them it was coming. And then for the last version. And we were like this would be a great opportunity for Harvey to really give Louis some love. but in the discussion of all of us it just came out. I mean what I like about a lot of these characters and it’s true of people that you work with. the writer of the episode. this is a person. And then I’ll say I remember telling Rick and Gabriel about it while we were shooting the first episode of the season. We give them notes. And somewhere I don’t 100% remember. and you’ll have a pleasant interaction with them and you’ll like them. they rewrite and then they write it in draft and then they rewrite. And I said I looked at it like . And when I get in there I. . But I play a ton of basketball and you can have people that are you archenemy on the court right.

Operator: Our next question is from the line of (Sandel Charles) with (CV Semetic).actually some of my favorite scenes are actually with Donna this season. Bill Peloquin: All right. It’s great to speak with you this afternoon.360I Moderator: Amanda Altschuler 07-10-12/12:00 pm CT Confirmation # 21598984 Page 22 And I said that’s to me what this is. It was just so well blended like this drama between the two characters and this great moment. .it was a great scene. It was definitely one of my favorite scenes. Bill Peloquin: It was. (Sandel Charles): Hello’s a moment where your guards are down and I just thought it was fantastic. It’s like you guys are somewhat enemies on the court but this is like . And I will say it was directed excellently and performed excellently. Aaron Korsh: To speak with you. Well thank you very much. But then there was also so much comedy in there too so it was just . And I really like kind of the role that she plays. She was reaming him about how much Harvey kind of sticks his neck out. (Sandel Charles): I . particularly one I can remember with her and Mike in an They did a great job. Aaron Korsh: Thanks questions . Aaron Korsh: Yeah.

in Episode 205 you find out where Donna is from and I did end up picking the town that my wife is from.there was a woman that I worked with at my first job whose name was Donna so I picked that name. But she was not really based on anyone real. she seems to know everyone in the firm.I’ll tell you. it’s a great scene. It’s . Although in episode . Donna came out and emerged over time. that’s great. (Sandel Charles): Oh. it’s funny. just a super sense about her even though she isn’t necessarily maybe the intellectual.there’s kind of maybe an allusion to or possibility of or maybe not. And she seems to know everything that’s going on and she seems to just have. absolutely. equivalent of some of the people that she works the way.I . I love that scene. you know. Did you have someone kind of in your life that kind of just knew everything and they were kind of your partner in that? Aaron Korsh: No. that would have been a subconscious thing that came out. I didn’t really base any of them on anyone that I knew. More stuff about Donna .when you write them they just come out is all I can say. She just seemed to know things and know like yes. I will say the name Donna I took .360I Moderator: Amanda Altschuler 07-10-12/12:00 pm CT Confirmation # 21598984 Page 23 She kind of knows everything. But she has the emotional intelligence so to speak that a lot of people don’t have. I do tell my wife that sometimes Donna reminds me of my wife but I didn’t think about it. most of the people because they just . But as I say. you know.every time like she does . You know. When I wrote them they just came out. you know. but maybe there .

360I Moderator: Amanda Altschuler 07-10-12/12:00 pm CT Confirmation # 21598984 Page 24 was something in somewhere in the past that maybe happened between Harvey and Donna. I have a story in my head that happened with them in the past that is slowly being revealed over time. . And I’ll sometimes get tweets that say. we’re just writing something and something comes out. in my mind they at least skirted with the idea of having something happen is the best I can say. kind of doing the rewrite on Episode 9 just a couple of days ago and some more alluding to their past came out. we didn’t exactly say that. But you took that meaning from it which I like. I’ll say for example we were. I have in my head an idea of their past history if any. you’re . you can’t . you know. But it’s interesting to me how when we say something different people will watch it and be positive that it means one thing or another. And we keep kind of peeling back small layers of it. the story that I have in my head it’s like it evolves. you know. But like kind of. you know. However. But yeah. And I’ll go back and I’ll watch it and I’ll say no. you know. still have a story that is consistent with everything we’ve said so far. (Sandel Charles): Did that story involve a can opener because I’m still baffled by the can opener. But you’re right. Is that intentional or are you still deciding whether or not you want to take that relationship back that way or kind of what’s going on there? Aaron Korsh: It’s interesting.we do keep alluding to it. And sometimes as I said this. I in my head. we have left open what really happened. Here’s the thing.

it’s crazy. are you crazy? If we say what they do with the can opener it’s just going to be no one will ever remember it. It’s a glass door. (Sandel Charles): Okay. Our next question is from the line of (Lucia Godfrey) from (Haron) TV. What do you think’s happening in there? But they wanted it to be less sexual.360I Moderator: Amanda Altschuler 07-10-12/12:00 pm CT Confirmation # 21598984 Page 25 Aaron Korsh: No. So but I don’t think that that night involved a can opener. . They want to want to And I didn’t mean for it to be because I was like they’re saying they’re going in an office. Well thank you so much for your time and I’ll look forward to finding out what the can opener means sometime in the future.that story does not involve the can opener. Aaron Korsh: All right. that I was alluding to something that was too overtly sexual between the two of them.I can’t remember last year. And it turns out . And I think I’ve said that . And I said.I mean there’s a Facebook page called the Can Opener. that is not . If we don’t say what they do with the can opener everybody’s going to want to know. And the network thought that my allusion . Operator: Thank you. So I put in I’ll get the can opener just as a throw away line. And then everybody on the crew and the cast and the director is like you’ve got to say what they do with the can opener. They don’t really want to know.the story of the can opener was . you know.allusion with an A not with an I. I was writing the finale and I said something and it was going to be a ritual. great.

sorry. Aaron Korsh: Hi.360I Moderator: Amanda Altschuler 07-10-12/12:00 pm CT Confirmation # 21598984 Page 26 (Lucia Godfrey): Oh. said lots of really . Geeky. (Lucia Godfrey): ..did you say. So I just like think they’re so fun. you know. Aaron Korsh: Oh. (Lucia Godfrey): Oh. One of the things I really enjoy about the show is the pop culture references and not just any pop culture references but lots of really geeky ones.sci-fi and... (Lucia Godfrey): Hi... . I heard pop culture but you said lots of really ..I didn’t. geeky. (Lucia Godfrey): . I actually was going to ask you a question about Donna but instead I’ll veer to one of my other questions..that kind of stuff.. Aaron Korsh: Oh. Pop culture references.. Yes. I missed the word.. no. Thank you. hello. Is that something that you put in intentionally or is that just sort of your background of what you’re interested in? I mean where do those come from? Aaron Korsh: Tell me . Aaron Korsh: No. (Lucia Godfrey): Oh.

Probably 90% of the references are . you know. you know. But most of them . me and all my friends growing up that’s all we did was quote movies and do things like that. And whenever I’m watching or thinking things make me think of movies all the time. I can absolutely tell you that Harvey is a Captain Kirk fan because I lived for Star Trek when I was a kid. It’s because I’m a geek is what it is. I can’t think of them off of the top of my head but I think I have done it once or twice. I always wondered why people don’t do that more in the things they write because it’s what. But many of them come out in the rewrite process when I’m.I know them. I’ve watched a lot of TV. . that reminds me of this movie or that movie so it just comes out. So that’s where they come from. my whole life I’ve read a ton. And. (Lucia Godfrey): Okay.360I Moderator: Amanda Altschuler 07-10-12/12:00 pm CT Confirmation # 21598984 Page 27 Aaron Korsh: Yeah. Once in a while I’ll put in one that I don’t know. So that’s where most of it comes from. Because if a writer puts a reference in that I don’t know I tend not to like it so I’ll replace it with one that I do know. you know. is in my life I’ll say hey. one on one with the individual writer. I’ve watched a lot of movies.I don’t generate them all but most of them are something that I at least would know. Aaron Korsh: I mean I’ll say this. Awesome.

other than Star Trek or maybe Star Trek’s your answer. Our next question is from the line of (Brandon Roll) with (Unintelligible) TV. What’s your favorite sort of sci-fi properties? Aaron Korsh: Oh. you know.360I Moderator: Amanda Altschuler 07-10-12/12:00 pm CT Confirmation # 21598984 Page 28 (Lucia Godfrey): Oh. the interesting thing is I don’t know that I’m like a sci-fi .yes. Well. I don’t know that I would say that I’m a fan of any one genre. Aaron Korsh: That is . Operator: Thank you. So I loved Star Trek. I just love Larry McMurtry and Elmore Leonard. It’s probably like 2500 pages that I’ve read four times. . So that’s it. But other than that it’s funny because someone once told me I loved westerns and I’m like I don’t love westerns. Like I just happen to love them. that’s awesome. I’m a huge Stephen King fan. So really I just love whatever . that is how I grew to love Gina Torres was from Firefly. That must be a pretty awesome in sci-fi. If you had to say sort of what your .if I love it I read it or I watch it. (Lucia Godfrey): Thank you so much. And. I guess I can say it’s not sci-fi it’s fantasy but in the course of my life I have read the Lord of the Rings Trilogy four times which is a lot of pages. Aaron Korsh: You’re welcome. I did love Firefly that my wife introduced me to. It’s more like when I find something I love I just love it. you know. (Lucia Godfrey): And you got to cast Gina’s funny.

360I Moderator: Amanda Altschuler 07-10-12/12:00 pm CT Confirmation # 21598984 Page 29 (Brandon Roll): Hi Aaron.I mean their relationship as Harvey to Donna. I mean I was a huge fan of LA Law and I know Arnie Becker. It’s a good question. you know. it had to happen late in the season because what did that guy do once he’s with her? It caused problems for me. So I don’t think in the near future they’re going to be getting together. I think that would that will be tough to do in the early seasons of this show because I think it just would. the end of the 16 this year to take them in a romantic direction moving forward. But as far as shedding light on their past relationships we’ve got a lot of exploration of that in the next few episodes coming up.I’m assuming you’re meaning going forward or you mean how does it play into it going backward? (Brandon Roll): Going forward. I was wondering. the relationship playing into the grand scheme of things. Aaron Korsh: Going forward. I don’t have an answer for going forward because as of currently. I think was her name. . you know. We don’t currently have any plans through. boss to secretary obviously is a pivotal key going forward. what can we expect to see in terms of a back story of Donna and Harvey and how does the relationship play in the grand scheme of things? Aaron Korsh: Excellent question. Well I’ll start with the second part first. I mean for me I don’t really have . Their past history is going to be at least danced around. when he got together with Roxanne. you know. right now they’re .

But the way she played it. it just opened a lot of questions. a little bit six. So you’ll definitely get more light shed on their relationship. What tends to happen I will say. But the thing is I mean what I would say about Harvey that I will just say on that matter is Harvey has his own opinions on what’s right and wrong. Yes. I don’t know that I thought of it in those terms but yeah. is that Mike’s got a big secret and he’s got a big mouth. It was like is she telling the truth or what really happened? So that tends to be how they play it and how it comes out. (Brandon Roll): And do you think that affects Harvey’s opinion of Mike and Rachel? Aaron Korsh: Oh. seven. that’s a great question. . not too much eight and then more in nine.when it was originally written it was originally written to communicate they never fooled around. And I’ll use for as an example when Rachel and Donna are talking in the finale last year and Donna gives her cryptic answer. But the problem is. They made a decision one time not to do it and this is why. it probably does. you know. But what I love about Harvey is generally he doesn’t judge other people’s moral choices unless they affect him. because you can never go back. and I’m not sure if this is my style because I don’t really consciously mean to do this but oftentimes the more we answer a question the more it just leads to more questions and I like that we do that but I don’t really mean to do that on purpose. now that you mention it. So in my mind I don’t think Harvey would care if Mike went out with Rachel or not.360I Moderator: Amanda Altschuler 07-10-12/12:00 pm CT Confirmation # 21598984 Page 30 And their feelings towards each other are going to be explored in five. in .

Operator: Thank you. is a big risk for Harvey. And I’ll go home and I’ll literally just close my eyes and just start imagining things and I’ll come . telling Mike he can’t be with Rachel. Sorry about and when do you decide which stories are worth pursuing? Aaron Korsh: Good question. Aaron Korsh: Hi (Rebecca). (Rebecca Lamarch): Hi there. Well I mean the best way I can answer that is I mean it’s really just a gut feel type of thing. How do you decide . So I was wondering. you You try to think it through but most of the time at the beginning of the year I’m in the writers’ room with the writers and we’re all thinking together. I couldn’t tell if I had to click through. Harvey might have an opinion on Mike and Rachel vis a vis his relationship with Donna but I don’t think that would drive his. you know. (Rebecca Lamarch): Hello. as a writer you must have billions of ideas going through your head all the time and this is more in regard to your writing process. Our next question is from the line of (Rebecca Lamarch) from (Interspasia). So that.360I Moderator: Amanda Altschuler 07-10-12/12:00 pm CT Confirmation # 21598984 Page 31 And he knows. you know. Harvey knows that to reveal that secret to Rachel at work is a big. (Brandon Roll): Thank you very much. you some point something will hit me and I’ll say this is .

we’ll kind of arc out the season together. you know. you know. we can’t do it all so we just have to pick and choose. But it’s usually like people are pitching me ideas and I just try to synthesize them and kind of say this is what feels right to me. I don’t like the ending of this.we don’t make huge changes but we’ll sometimes say look. your own idea and everything. And then I’ll respond just with a gut feel to which of the things I like and which of the things I don’t. But then as the year goes by I am able to spend less and less time in the writers’ room because I’m rewriting the current episode or casting or editing or whatever. you know. the current. you know. It’s more a matter of just. And I’ll come back in and that’s usually how it works. you know. I want to change it. really make . they’ll pitch me a few episodes in a row. I don’t want it to be like this. you know. And then I’ll give them feedback and then they’ll. And then we’ll. Most of the time I like it all. several episodes. you know. And then the writers take over and they really pitch me.360I Moderator: Amanda Altschuler 07-10-12/12:00 pm CT Confirmation # 21598984 Page 32 what we’re going to do for the beginning of the year. And then I’ll just say once we get into the rewriting of the individual episodes we sometimes. do you find it difficult to hand over to the creative team? . So that can always happen and then that’ll have to ripple through to the next. (Rebecca Lamarch): So having Suits being your baby. work with that.

But there are only so many hours in the day.. And finally. Editing. you know. So you have to pick and choose where you’re going to be at any given time. one of the things .it is not possible to maintain control over every aspect of a show.I have a big impact on that obviously. And. Like when I go in there the things they pitch me I’m just like that’s amazing. you know. We just had a baby daughter about three weeks ago.360I Moderator: Amanda Altschuler 07-10-12/12:00 pm CT Confirmation # 21598984 Page 33 Aaron Korsh: Yes.. if I could trouble you with another question. So. you know. obviously would I love to be able to have more of an impact on everything? I’s not humanly possible. which impacts dialog and jokes and quotes and things like that. I have a lot of ideas for other things but the truth is. Congratulations.a just over two year old son. is that the writers are amazing. And the good news is. It’s just . Let’s do that. I have a two . casting. kind of . . the writers just generate so much and I need them. you know. You know. you know.I went to a show runner training program that the Writers’ Guild has. (Rebecca Lamarch): Oh wow. And it’s not possible. (Rebecca Lamarch): That’s fabulous. But the. But what I try to do is the final write of every script. And you . writing. It’s an excellent thing. in the middle of working on Suits has it inspired you for any future projects? Aaron Korsh: Somebody just asked me that on Twitter the other day. you know. My answer was I can barely keep my shit together with Suits. And then in the edit phase I make a lot of choices about what we’re going to do. I went to it last year. it’s no way. I was just wondering.

Our next question is from the line of (Anne Bailey) with . I’m sorry about that.about the company. I get about five hours sleep a night and I cannot think at this time of doing anything else. Operator: Thank you.. that was (Humada Corada) from Columbia. Aaron Korsh: Thank you. Thank you so much. Operator: ... (Anne Bailey): Hi Aaron. (Carla Giddles): My .I’m not sure. Our next question is from the line of (Carla Giddles) with Turner Broadcasting. (Rebecca Lamarch): Fair enough. Operator: Okay. Thank you. Aaron Korsh: Hi (Anne). Amanda Cary: I think we have time for one final question (Vernell).the journalist whose line got cut off. Operator: (Anne)? ..360I Moderator: Amanda Altschuler 07-10-12/12:00 pm CT Confirmation # 21598984 Page 34 Aaron Korsh: Thank you. Aaron Korsh: Okay. And that combined with Suits.

Of course. go apart type of thing that takes us through 16. My first question is.a road for their. Of course. you know. This is one of those never know until we get there if we’re actually going to execute that plan. kind of come together. this is one of those things where I will say we have a plan for them through episode 16 of this year which I think will air sometime in the winter. (Anne Bailey): No. tumultuous. . Like last year we definitely had a lot of things that we wanted to do. I don’t know . Yeah. is there a chance for Michael and Rachel at all? Aaron Korsh: There’s always a chance. You know. But what would happen if Louis found out Mike’s secret? Aaron Korsh: I don’t think good things would happen. But until we get there I’m not sure if we’re going to actually execute that plan. Aaron Korsh: But there’s always hope I would say. And then some things we thought we were going to do and never got to do. I can say that. The (Sense). you know. Some things we thought we were going to do at the end we ended up moving them up to the beginning. (Anne Bailey): Right. (Anne Bailey): Got you. So we have a plan for kind of what .360I Moderator: Amanda Altschuler 07-10-12/12:00 pm CT Confirmation # 21598984 Page 35 (Anne Bailey): Hi. And my second question and hopefully this is just a hypothetical and not something that’s actually going to happen.

I think our entire cast is amazing and they all elevate these .it wasn’t that we dismissed it. we had .which I won’t give away but whenever you’re going to do something like that you have to twist it obviously. We had a plan for Louis finding out about Mike’s secret last year and we didn’t do it.. It just ended up . (Anne Bailey): Right. I will say we had a plan last year.. It’s in our pocket. Cool.we have one.we didn’t . Aaron Korsh: I will say . you know. But that’s one of those things that can always come up. (Anne Bailey): Yes.I mean Rick. We just basically didn’t get to it. But for whatever reason when Hardman came in it just never materialized. His name slipped my mind right this second.. I like Louis.. (Anne Bailey): Right. I talk about how much I love the writers. people I think sometimes mistake his character for the actor. But. he plays such a great villain.360I Moderator: Amanda Altschuler 07-10-12/12:00 pm CT Confirmation # 21598984 Page 36 Aaron Korsh: You know. But it’s .it’s funny. He. Aaron Korsh: . He really does. This is a perfect example. But then this year that kind of went away.. We had a twist such that . Yes. and he’s the nicest guy in the world so it’s so funny. Aaron Korsh: . And I thought we had a good twist and I really liked it.I think he’s so good.twist it in a certain way. You know.. I mean I will take a moment. (Anne Bailey): Cool. You can’t just have Louis ruin Mike’s career. I like that actor... Aaron Korsh: Rick Hoffman. So you have to. His name is Rick Hoffman.

It doesn’t mean he’s going to be better or worse. (Anne Bailey): I’m sorry. I think somebody mentioned that Harvey/Louis scene earlier. (Anne Bailey): It was a good show. I mean I was just.360I Moderator: Amanda Altschuler 07-10-12/12:00 pm CT Confirmation # 21598984 Page 37 characters so much. And that the same dialog in the hands of lesser actors would seem like bad writing. . I watched the Deep End and I really liked it and I wished it would have stuck around longer. we actually like Louis. you know. (Anne Bailey): Cool. So it’s almost like I can get away with not great writing with what they do with the words. Well thank you for talking to us today. you know. Aaron Korsh: Thank you. And this year we’re trying to flesh him out so that he’s more complicated. Aaron Korsh: Yeah. more human. But I really loved it and yeah. Oh. Well thank you. I was . So this year Louis is going to become to my mind. Aaron Korsh: Oh.. All those people were terrific. the same impact on that show as I do on this one. And based on episode three and the response I seem to have gotten people were like oh. I wanted to tell you too before I say goodbye. it was great.I didn’t have. Like. He’s just going to be more fleshed out and I think people will be drawn to him all the more.. But Rick in particular like he just brings the humanity I think to this character. I enjoyed my time there.

360I Moderator: Amanda Altschuler 07-10-12/12:00 pm CT Confirmation # 21598984 Page 38 Amanda Cary: Great.Cary@NBCUNI. Amanda Cary: That’s all right. I think that can conclude our call for today. Thank you everyone for joining and if you have any questions you can email me at Amanda. Aaron Korsh: My pleasure. Operator: Ladies and gentlemen that does conclude the conference call for today. Amanda Cary: Aaron Korsh: Thanks. END . I’m sorry we didn’t get to get to everyone. We thank you for your participation and ask that you please disconnect your lines. Thank you. And thank you Aaron for doing the call today.

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