1. OVERVIEW
On December 2nd, 2014, the High Speed Rail (HSR) Project released new maps showing recently proposed
alternate rail routes that go above and tunnel through the Angeles National forest. These new routes differ
significantly from the I5SR14 transportation corridor that was described in the original High Speed Rail
legislation and that was voted on and passed by the Citizens of California by a small margin. The concept of
new routes was introduced in Spring 2014 and the possibility was presented to the public as a vague swath
through the Angeles National Forest in June 2014.
On Dec 2nd, three specific proposed alternative routes E1, E2, and E3 were released to the public. These
routes veer away from established transportation corridors and instead go across, over, and tunnel through
the Northeast San Fernando Valley communities of Shadow Hills, Sunland, Kagel Canyon, and Lake View
Terrace and through Little Tujunga Canyon and Upper Pacoima Canyon in the Angeles National Forest
where they travel across, over, and tunnel through sensitive environmental land, watershed, and wildlife
habitat.
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Getting oriented:
High Speed Rail map with E1, E2, E3 proposed routes released in December 2014 with
added locations for orientation and canyons highlighted (approx.)
Little Tujunga Cyn blue, Big Tujunga Cyn red, Pacoima Cyn green.
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Water Body
is a Tributary of
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Bartholomaus Canyon
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Cottonwood Canyon
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Limerock Canyon
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Marok Canyon **
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Water Body
is a Tributary of
Gold Creek
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Alder Creek
Gold Creek
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Boulder Canyon
Gold Creek
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Center Creek
Gold Creek
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Pine Canyon
Gold Creek
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Slaughter Canyon
Gold Creek
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Ebey Canyon*
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Oliver Canyon*
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* Not recognized at this point without more study. These canyons cross both Big and Little Tujunga at a thin ridge;
water from the Fascination Springs Complex, Larsen Spring, and Ebey Canyon waters flow into Little Tujunga.
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USGS Topo Maps showing Little Tujunga Waterways (detailed views follow):
Kagel Spring (aka Kagel Creek) with surface water -- photo taken 1/23/15 near Little Tujunga confluence:
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Topo map detailed images. Images progress from south Little Tujunga Cyn to north Little Tujunga Cyn:
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Oak Spring year-round water (photos taken 10/31/14 before the rain.)
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Water is found fairly easily by digging down in the sand in these channels or walking upstream.
All of these water sources those officially-listed and those observed but not listed need further study!
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How close are the proposed HSR routes to these water sources?
Just some of the Little Tujunga Canyon tributary sources in relation to proposed HSR routes (locations
approximate):
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In summary, there is no doubt: Little Tujunga water including the fresh-water springs becomes
Los Angeles locally-sourced drinking water.
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5. HIGH SPEED RAIL ROUTES E1, E2, and E3 POTENTIAL THREATS TO LITTLE TUJUNGA WATER
If allowed to progress, the E1, E2, and E3, HSR routes will have a significant negative impact on the Little
Tujunga water system. Spring and creek hydrology can be extremely fragile when exposed to diverting,
blocking, general construction, tunneling activities, surface maintenance access, and the type of high-speed
sonic piston activity associated with this project. Spring and creek water flow can be damaged or completely
destroyed by this activity. One may not know the ultimate impact of such activity until it is too late.
Because Oak Spring and the springs upstream in Gold Creek are at somewhat high elevation with water
possibly pushing through 1000 or more above impermeable rock, the sources of these waters must be
studied carefully as there may actually be water under pressure coming from below the syncline bed.
With HSR, there absolutely will be major surface construction. Emergency vehicle access and maintenance
roads, ventilation, and utility infrastructure will run along the surface of the route. This cannot conceivably
be invisible through the Angeles National Forest as it is often portrayed.
Engineers do not want water popping up in
their tunnels. Both the Army Corps of
Engineers and the EPA detail their concerns
regarding de-watering and water table
lowering by this project in their scoping
meeting comments. Since the water table is at
only 0-30 SE of Little Tujunga and 0-60 NW
of Little Tujunga, there will clearly be impacts
needing mitigation!
Question Based on past experience, do you
trust a lowest-bid construction company in
California: 1. to complete promised mitigation
correctly, and 2. To be held truly accountable if
they do not?
Analyses of the impacts to water must also be made for
Upper Pacoima Canyon!
Kristin C. Sabo January 2015
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The bottom line is that there will be significant negative impact to these valuable local drinking
water sources. This is not in doubt.
5. CONCLUSION
My final question to you all is this:
Given that drinking water is the single most important issue in California, and that Los Angeles has a huge
water problem, why is HSR threatening LAs sources of drinking water when they have perfectly viable
routes that do not do so?
HSR must not be allowed to damage ONE SINGLE SOURCE of LA's locally-sourced drinking water.
Kristin C. Sabo January 2015
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6. EXTRA
Some Geology worth noting: Gold Creek is split on the east (Big Tujunga) side and the west (Little
Tujunga) side by a significant fault. Fault failure faces run north-south on the Big Tujunga side and eastwest on the Little Tujunga side. HSR routes run through this fault. Surface water sources (springs?) appear
to be the same on the Big and Little Tujunga side a visual inspection of the symmetric drainage on both
sides in spite of the discontinuity of the fault provides evidence to this possibility.
It therefore follows, as expected, that Little Tujunga water sources are not independent of the water in
nearby canyons. Little Tujunga water is not independent of Big Tujunga, Kagel, and Lopez Canyons.
Construction in Little Tujunga will impact water in other canyons. (Note that de-watering Little Tujunga may
impact the plan to re-introduce the Santa Ana Suckerfish to Gold Creek on the Big Tujunga side.)
Big Tujunga Gold Creek visible fault face (looking north):
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