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Jaimini Sutramritam
Jaimini System of Astrology is a very wonderful system, yet not been popular due to its cryptic
nature. There are wonderful commentaries lying in the houses of paramparas and manuscript
libraries. Most of the literature available on Jaimini is based on the Neelakantha commentary, yet
there are more works like Phalaratnamala, Kalpalatha, Jataka Sara Sangraha etc. In this blog I
would like to introduce the rare concepts of Jaimini System, without contradicting the classical
works.

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Why not BPHS
Dear Friends,
I am copy and pasting one of the reply I gave on a group regarding
the BPHS and Jaimini System. Of course, I know most of the points
are repeats from earlier articles, still I thought I better put it here.
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Chara Paryaya Dasa - An
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Yes, The mixing is not forbidden, but there has been a humble
suggestion by experts in Jaimini Astrology not to mix Parasari
principles with Jaimini. Yes, the taste of pudding is in eating and of
course on the ability of the cook as well. Yet, as Sri Bhaskar
pointed out we eat south indian idli sambar as a whole and other
noth indian dishes, but I guess not mixing them in the same
plate/bowl. Kindly take it light.

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referred to Brihat Jataka. It is not prudent to argue that these commentators didn't have access to BPHS or they didn't care to follow Sage Parasara. Kindly have a look at Shyamasundara Dasa's article on BPHS. but not Sage Parasara. their way of calculating Argala. quoting the authenticity of either Vriddha Karika or the Jaimini Sutras.Jaimini Sutramritam: Search results for jaimini light Page 2 of 18   No. He took refernce to Bala Krishnananada Swami. It is only the modern commentator Sri Sanjay Rath. which find an important place in most of Jaimini commentaries. published a century back. and call them Antaranga sasthra and asks us to use sparingly and they talk of Bahiranga sasthra as predictive Phalita dasas as well.V. as Sri B. They always quote the authenticity of Vriddha Karikas. am now focussing more on understanding Jaimini system. who quotes only BPHS in commenting Jaimini Sutras and no Vriddha Karikas. so it is upto the astrologer to use the tools. Their way of calculating Drig Dasa. where as relatively modern commentary by Sitaram Jha differs. Neelakantha etc. Sarve Janaah Sukhinoh Bhavantu file://C:\Users\Ram Mohan Mishra\Desktop\New Folder\Ast\New Folder (3)\search. are more in line with ancient commentators.Raman puts it. they may different to the ways used by Jaimini classics. you never find the Sampat Dasas like Chara Paryaya. View my complete profile If you take available BPHS. the author of Kalpalatha. They always claim that this system is a secret system and to be used as such. are very different from the concepts given by BPHS. which is so wonderful. Evan the later commentators like Durga Prasada Dwivedi never quote Parasara. Bhava Rahasya dasa etc. So. For example.htm 25/Sep/2010 . Sridhara Pandita Sanskrit commentary on BPHS. Atmano Bhava Pamsa etc. a wonderful commentary on Jaimini. Astrology both Scince as well as Art. since they talk of Udu dasas and the Nakshtras and their lord etc. If we closely follow them. Atmanadi. Even. Manduka Dasa is entirely different from what BPHS gives and they mentions the parameters to be used with each dasa. Rajayoga. if they do in some editions. Sthira Paryaya. For example. the concepts regarding Jaimini. Arudha etc. but not BPHS. In this blog I would like to bring my study of this system to the benefit of students like me. it will good to follow the advice by our elders not to mix. If we follow. but not Parasara. yet not popular due to its cryptic nature. ancient commentator of Jaimini sutras take reference to Parasara. Anyway. they mention a number of Ayurdasa like Hora. Somanatha.

Sage Jaimini in his sutra stated "Atha Swamso Grahanaam".com/doc/19183735/30True-JaiminiNavamsa-Revealed-2 The first link gives North Indian Chart version. He clearly mentions that Drekkana chart is a Antaranga system and have prime importance in Jaimini even over Navamsa chart and shall be used in deciding Rajayoga of the native. September 18. which generally means AK. This is reference to Sri Narasimha post on Sohamsa list on seeing Ishta Devata in 12th from AK in Vimsamsa. so let us not go into debate whether Jaimini rejected or accepted it. the Upasana is to be seen from D-20 and following that advice. but first let us concentrate on the parameters given in this school of thought. Karakamsa plays an important role in understandoing the person devotion. Vimsamsa never been dealt in any Jaimini works. for the sake of clarity. the logic used Sri Narasimha seems to be correct. let us all take AK as Swa Karaka.An Update Om Namah Sivaya Dear friends. The south Indian chart versionis missing with me.The first part explains the calculation of Jaimini Navamsa and Ishta file://C:\Users\Ram Mohan Mishra\Desktop\New Folder\Ast\New Folder (3)\search.htm 25/Sep/2010 . It is a very potent sutra since the Sage indicates "Swa".The second link was uploaded by SA and gives the part2 of the artilce and givessouth Indian charts version. the Amsa occupied by Atma Karaka planet.com/doc/19874893/Jaimini-NavamsaPart-1-NI http://www. Yet. There has been an extensive details about a Drekkana Dasa in Jataka Sara Sangraha as a Rajayoga dasa used in charts of  Kings . Posted by Shanmukha at 4:02 AM 2 comments Friday. The Phalita dasas come under Bahiranga system and be freely used for horoscopic analysis. Shanmukha P. The following two are the links to my Jaimini Navamsa article.Jaimini Sutramritam: Search results for jaimini light Page 3 of 18 Warm Regards. According to BPHS. so I uploaded the Notrh Indian chart version. Karaka + Amsa generally means. Yet. So.scribd.scribd. 2009 Jaimini Navamsa . http://www. there is a lot more to it than the apparent. in Jaimini system. where as Ayur dasas come under Antaranga system and be used sparingly from Raja Yoga horoscopes. Swakaraka is an important planet and Kalpalatha deals a great deal with it.S : Somanatha writes that Jaimini system can broadly be divided as Antaranga and Bahiranga system.

Look at the Krishna Mishra Navamsa.I have clearly explained in my article. This is named as Jaimini Navamsa by Sri Rangacharya. There was a clear dictum from Ancient Jaimini works that aspect of Moon sign lord / Moon / or Jupiter leads to traditional Vishnavism. yet the aspect of Rahu from 9th house of Karakamsa. Below. occupied by Mercury and Mars shows the influence of Vaishnava. Ramakrishna Paramahamsa.No planet occupies the 12th from AK in Jaimini Navamsa. where as the second part explains the other aspects of Jaimini Navamsalike Karma Yoga etc. 1. Swami Vivekananda is considered great philosopher and excelled in Vedanta which is a clear attributes of Jupiter influence and if we take D-20 as you suggested. 2. Before going to the discussion on charts. Look at Mercury is strong being in friends house. In case of Swami Trigunatitananda chart. I explain the Jaimini pointers with Krishna Mishra Navamsa.Jaimini Sutramritam: Search results for jaimini light Page 4 of 18 devataconcepts. If we take D-20. on 12th lord Mars explains the influence on Durga. Sarada Mata . Also look at the conjunction of Rahu with Yogada Saturn which contributed to a large extent. which doesn't make much difference. only there is Rahu and Ketu influence which doen't suffice. In the most of the charts discussed by Sri Narasimha in the post. there is a clear influence of Rahu / Ketu which never attributed to Vaishnavism except the apect of Saturn from Virgo.htm 25/Sep/2010 . I dont know whether it is explained in BPHS. the Krishna Mishra Navamsa works wonderful. Look at the two best benefic planet Jupiter and Venus in 12th from AK. 5. I had explained Krishana Mishra Navamsa on this webpage elsewhere as well.It was a very clear principle from Jaimini thought that how Influence of Jupiter on 12th makes a person "Bramhatma Vadi" and a Vedanti. let me state that reckoning houses and Argala for Rahu and Ketu was clearly explained by Krishna Mishra. I am writing this post spontaneously and any errors may kindly be forgiven. Let us see how this variation works in seeing Devata Bhakti. Saturn. Ketu and Jupiter file://C:\Users\Ram Mohan Mishra\Desktop\New Folder\Ast\New Folder (3)\search. 4. Srila Prabhupada . Though there is aspect of Rahu on the combination. if it was how this was missed by scholars ? There are some Jaimini commentaries which take "Tatviparitam Rahu Ketvoh" for the Argala. 12th from AK Jupiter. 3. Swami Vivekananda . explained in the article as how Durga becomes Ishta Devata.

he is known not for his devotion towards Lord Shiva. I get AK as Moon and you write AK Saturn. Rahu. shows why his autobiography of a Yogi is so file://C:\Users\Ram Mohan Mishra\Desktop\New Folder\Ast\New Folder (3)\search. Venus. 8. He is a Vedanti. It is enough to understand his devotion towards Lord Shiva. The aspect of Moon sign lord Mercury. Swami Chandrasekhara Saraswati . This is the only info I have regarding Sri Krishna Murthi and can't comment much on his Ishta Devata. so no comment. Venus lessen the aspect of Mars on Ketu. Rahu (from 5th) and Ketu on debilitated Mars led him to Uchhista Ganapati Upasana. There is a clear dictum that Saturn in conjunction with Jupiter makes a person a Vaishnavite and follows Ramanuja Sampradaya. 10.Jaimini Sutramritam: Search results for jaimini light Page 5 of 18 occupied the 12th from AK Moon (As you know. The connection of Ketu in 12th inself shows the highest spirtual experience and liberation. Look athe aspect of Venus from Saturn house (Madhva mata Sampradaya) on the 12th lord Mars. 7. The debilitation of Saturn is lessened by conjunction of Jupiter. It clearly shows the connection of Vaishnavism (Saturn). In case of Ramana Maharshi. look at aspect of Jupiter. Yet. In case of Prof Krishnamurthi. Though the combination doen't occur in this chart in full pledged manner.Look at the aspect of Juputer. which is detrimental for spirtuality. In case of Paramahamsa Yogananda. Sun and Mars on 12th of AK Saturn. By entering the details given by Sri Narasimha. A strong influence of Sun. Moon and Mercury on Karakamsa and its 5th indicate the person a (Prabandha Karta). If we take AK as Rahu and D-20 and your logic. Saturn and Rahu on 12th lord Venus making him a Sanyasi. (Is it also called Avadhuta). which is clearly shown by the Ketu in 12th from AK Moon. Goudiya Vaishnava Sampradaya is believed to be initiated by a Madhvacharya. we get Jupiter in 12th in debilitation. 9. Saturn with a Jupiter leads a person to a Sanyasi (Virakti). AK is Mars and 12th from him is not occupied by anu planet. I dont have his chart and hence can't comment. 6. The connection of Jup. the AK Venus in Sg with Jupiter and Moon and Mercury in 5th from it shows the wonderful learning in tradition. we dont consider Rahu to be AK). Kindly verify whether this much clarity is seen in D-20 as well. Venus. Tridandi Chinna Jeeyar Swami. 11. It is a clear dictum the combination of Mars.htm 25/Sep/2010 .

As explained in Ramana Maharshi case. I request the readers to test the principles various charts and come to conclusion. So. Warm regards. 12th is unoccupied. 2009 Chara Dasa (Raghava Bhatta .htm 25/Sep/2010 . the influence of Jupiter. Rangacharya also gave a number of slokas from Kalpalatha of Somanath Mishra and Phala Ratnamala of Krishna Mishra and others The following works are mainly based on Jaimini Sutras file://C:\Users\Ram Mohan Mishra\Desktop\New Folder\Ast\New Folder (3)\search. Here. Saturn and Ketu and Mercury and Moon. And also the starting dasa sign will be different for female natives. we will be at loss as our earlier generations have been. I am sticking to the basics. Jaimini light software also gives it. JHora also gives this variation of Navamsa. of late JHora comes with Chara dasa of Rangacharya variation which is based on this method. August 4. Saturn. If we ignore them for the sake of our ignorance of Sanskrit language or the complexity of the Jaimini System. "Sutasthe Janma" sutras to calculation of dasa years. Of course.Nrisimha Suri method) Om Namah Sivaya This month I am introducing Chara dasa (Raghava Bhatta – Nrisimha Suri method).Jaimini Sutramritam: Search results for jaimini light Page 6 of 18 revered in the world. as well. Sutrartha Parkasika. Sri Iranganti Rangacharya’s “Jaimini Sutramritam” is the only available commentary. which is largely based on above cited works. The pecularity of this method lies in Raghava Bhatta's application of "Swasthe Daraha". having aspects from Rahu. this Navamsa shall. and Rahu leads a person into Renunciation. Venus. The above combinations. my humble request to all is not to ignore the valuable other Jaimini resouces. Fortunately. IMHO. I culled from the Jaimini commentaries available with us. In this method if the lord of dasa rasi is in 7th from it. invaraibly used to understand the Karakamsa chapter of Jaimini Sutras. Lord Mars is influenced by Venus and Jupiter. So almost all the planets excepting Sun influence the 12th house. Jaimini Chara Dasa calculation is entirely different according to the rare Jaimini works Jataka Sara Sangrha. then dasa years will be 10 years. Shanmukha Posted by Shanmukha at 9:52 AM 2 comments Tuesday. As other scholar requested to clarify. thanks to Narasimha.

Gautama Samhita. both Jataka Sara Sangraha and Sutrartha Prakasika are not available to public except some privileged astrologers of traditional paramparas. IMHO 4. 11. Chara Dasa Sequence 1. Jaimini Sutramritam By Sri Iranganti Rangacharya. Bala Krishnananda Saraswati 10. I tried to cull out the rules from various resources available. Other commentaries by Neelakantha. Jyotisha Phala Ratnamaala by Krishna Mishra.htm 25/Sep/2010 . Brihaspatha Samhita deals with mixing up Parasari and Jaimini concepts Since. Venkatesa. Jaimini Sutrartha Vakya by Nrisimha Daivagna 7. the best of all commentaries available in Print 14. whom Krishna Mishra frequently quotes in his Phala Ratnamala. Chara Dasa always start from Lagna for male charts 2. Jaimini Sutra (Jataka Narayaneeyam) By Sri Vadrevu Suryanarayana Murthy 13. the best work on Jaimini for Rasi Dasas. Vanchanaadeyam By Vanchanada deals Arudha Padas extensively 8. Jaimini Padyamritam. India. Chennai. Please go through them and try yourself. by Durga Prasada Dwivedi. Jyotisha 2. Laxmana Vakya 6. Jataka Rajeeyam by Singanarya 9. a minor work on Arudha Padas 15. A work by Sarvajna Muni. For female charts file://C:\Users\Ram Mohan Mishra\Desktop\New Folder\Ast\New Folder (3)\search. The net result is two versions. very important work since it contains most of the Vriddha Karika slokas 12. one followed by Sri Iranganti Rangacharya and the other by the astrological software called Jaimini Light by MindSutra. Sutrartha Prakasika By Akumalla Nrisimha Suri 5.com. Jataka Sara Sangraha By Raghava Bhatta.Jaimini Sutramritam: Search results for jaimini light Page 7 of 18 1. I have explained below the methods and subtle differences between these two methods at appropriate places. Kalpa Latha by Somanatha Mishra 3. fortunately available in printed form with Madras Oriental Library. the best for predictive part of Jaimini.

The lord of Scorpio is Mars and lord of Aquarius is Saturn. if Lagna is Aries. after 9th . 2. Dasa sequence is Ar. the dasa years equal to 12 years. the dasa sequences is forward or reverse according to oddity of lagna. For Example. 6.Ge. 2.Ta. not the oddity of Starting dasa sign. 9. Not necessary to consider Rahu. Exaltation and Debilitation of planets need not to be considered. 5. respectively. 5. Dasa sequence is Cn. Ketu.htm 25/Sep/2010 . From Lagna ****Please note in the above sequence for dual signs. that is 1. the next dasa rasi is 2nd from lagna not 10th from lagna (This is very important since 10th is followed in Narayana Dasa) Calculation of Maha Dasa Years 1. Iranganti Rangachary method For Male charts  If the lord of dasa sign is in odd sign.Cn etc. Ta. If Lord of dasa sign is in dasa sign itself. count from lord of dasa sign (Paka sign) to dasa sign zodiacally . 10…. both sign including For Female charts file://C:\Users\Ram Mohan Mishra\Desktop\New Folder\Ast\New Folder (3)\search. both sign including  If the lord of dasa sign is in even sign. If Lagna is Cancer. starting dasa rasi is 4th sign anti zodiacally from lagna. 3. Maha Dasa Rasis are determined by Padakrama order  Movable Signs regular from Lagna  Fixed Signs every 6th sign from Lagna  Dual Signs Trines.Ge. count from lord of dasa sign (Paka sign) to dasa sign anti zodiacally . that is 10th sign from lagna zodiacally 3. For both male and female charts.Ar etc. Chara Dasa progresses Zodiacal or Anti Zodiacal depending on the Odd or Even nature of Lagna. starting dasa rasi is 4th sign zodiacally from lagna • if lagna is even. 4.Jaimini Sutramritam: Search results for jaimini light Page 8 of 18 • if lagna is odd.

from the interaction with him. Antara Dasas always start from dasa sign  Prakriti chakra Padakrama order must be followed according to the dasa sign. He explained that AD are to be calculated treating Mahadasa sign as lagna and. Dual. Please note. count from from lord of dasa sign (Paka sign) to dasa sign zodiacally . using the padakrama according to the nature of signs. But. Calculation of Antara Dasas in Maha Dasa Sri Rangacharya didn’t explain the calculation of antaradasas either in his “Jaimini Sutramritam” or “A Manual of Jaimini Astrology”. Rangacharya method  For both male and female charts. the dasa years will be 12. that is Movable.htm 25/Sep/2010 . I learnt how to calculate Antaradasas. both sign including . the count depends on the oddity of dasa sign MindSutra method For both Male charts and Female charts • If the lord of dasa sign is in odd sign. for female charts. count from lord of dasa sign (Paka sign) to dasa sign anti zodiacally . Fixed. the the dasa years will be 10. both sign including – 1  If Lord of Dasa sign (Paka sign) is 7th sign from dasa sign. the dasa years will be 10.1 • If the lord of dasa sign is in even sign. • If Lord of Dasa sign (Paka Sign) is in the dasa sign itself. file://C:\Users\Ram Mohan Mishra\Desktop\New Folder\Ast\New Folder (3)\search. count from lord of dasa sign (Paka sign) to dasa sign zodiacally both sign including 1  If thedasa sign is even sign. both sign including –1 • If Lord of Dasa sign (Paka sign) is 7th sign from dasa sign.Jaimini Sutramritam: Search results for jaimini light Page 9 of 18  If the dasa sign is odd sign. count from from lord of dasa sign (Paka sign) to dasa sign anti zodiacally .

M/s Sagar Publications file://C:\Users\Ram Mohan Mishra\Desktop\New Folder\Ast\New Folder (3)\search.scribd. please go through the references given below Referencess 1.62 4. Mind Sutra method Astrologers at MindSutra software modified the calculation of antaradasas since they feel keeping AD duration always equal to one year is more logical and works better. then the dasa years will be 4 and the Antaradasas are Vi. that is Padakrama order not to be followed  The No.com 3. 1999 Annual issue of THE ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZINE.  Antaradasas start from the rasi occupied by lord of dasa sign (Paka Sign) and progress Zodiacally or anti – Zodiacally according to the oddity of Paka Sign (sign occupied by lord)  Antaradasas are always regular.Jaimini Sutramritam: Search results for jaimini light Page 10 of 18  The number of Antaradasas will be equal to 12 and duration of each AD is equal to Dasa years divided by 12.htm 25/Sep/2010 . Jaimini Sutramritam By Sri Iranganti Rangacharya (Sanskrit and English commentary) 2. http://www. A Manual of Jaimini Astrology by Iranganti Rangacharya.Sen of MindSutra. of antaradasas are equal to the No of Dasa years.com/doc/5999102/Timing-of-EventsBy-Using-Various-Jaimini-Rashi-Dashas And also. Similarly the Pratyantaradasas will be 12 and each duration equals to one month. That means. Timing Events using various Jaimini Rasi Dasas by D. Dasa Anyasis I recommend readers to study "Timing Events using various Jaimini Rasi Dasas" article by D. Le. page 60.K. Cn.com. Ge.61. the dasa rasi having 12 years duration only will get 12 antaradasas.Sen of MindSutra. For example if dasa rasi is Taurus and Lord Venus is in Virgo. very exhaustively explains the rules with a live exmaple upto Antaradasa level. That article.K.

to be precise? Please visit http://www. file://C:\Users\Ram Mohan Mishra\Desktop\New Folder\Ast\New Folder (3)\search. December 19. Treating Jaimini as contemporary to Sage Parasara is respecting both Sages that they deserve. since a lot of knowledge has been corrupted and much need to be brought into light.com/ and download the Global Free Magazine for a good treat. I have the same respect for Sage Jaimini. we need to consult Vriddaha Karikas and ancient commentaries. Yes. on December 18th 2008. which gives rare combinations.saptarishisastrology. Seeking Blessings Shanmukha Posted by Shanmukha at 11:58 PM 7 comments Friday.2 What Went Wrong With BPHS . Though we need not put BPHS aside.Jaimini Sutramritam: Search results for jaimini light Page 11 of 18 P. The relevant verse of BPHS quoted by Sri Sanjay Rath in his commentary on Jaimini Sutras. I am going to introduce you all a wonderful reference on Chara Dasa and after reading that we all will be astonished as to how a special dasa was designed in the name of Lord Vishnu. I am giving another sloka dealing Karakamsa. First things first.2 Om Namah Sivaya Dear Friends. Now. I worship him as a great Sage who gas graced this wonderful science to the mankind. I urge the knowledgeable Astrological fraternity to study Vriddha Karikas. that I have no disrespect fro Sage Parasara. In the previous post in this blog. which again shows my point.S: The next post will be a definite surprise to all of us which cracks the notion of Jaimini knowledge is available with only one parampara. who propounded another wonderful system. I am going to bring another Gem below. I have given one verse from BPHS and the counterpart from Vriddha Karika. How are you doing? Do you know that Saptarishis Astrology Vol4 was released yesterday. I want to go on record. Yet. but merely accepting whatever there in now available BPHS as authenticated is not good. Now. Similarly. My point here is that to understand Jaimini. 2008 What Went Wrong With BPHS .htm 25/Sep/2010 .

It not only deals the concept of Upagraha in Jaimini system. Now. Most of the Jaimini literature now on Internet deals about Karakamsa in Navamsa chart. see the relevant Vriddha Karika sloka. Vriddha Karika verse is more exhaustive and deals many concepts in one verse. It attributes the results 1. Some may get a doubt “What this Upagraha is?” There lies the key with Jataka Sara Sangraha by Raghava Bhatta again. since the sloka is very clear.Jaimini Sutramritam: Search results for jaimini light Page 12 of 18 Well. Now. Do you see the similarity and the differences? This verse gives much more than what BPHS gives. Lagnamsa 3. Upagraha and other grahas By any means. but this verse asks us to consider Atma Karaka in Rasi chart as well. but also a dasa of that planet.htm 25/Sep/2010 . Karakamsa 2. do you understand why I say our understanding on Jaimini now is only tip of iceberg? file://C:\Users\Ram Mohan Mishra\Desktop\New Folder\Ast\New Folder (3)\search. no translation is given here. Karaka Rasi 4.

even after being persuaded by Sri B. But. He claims that he always followed the vriddha karakas and never contradicted or transgressed those slokas in his commentary. Sri Rangacharya never indicated that any sutra is missing from the first two adhyayas. Posted by Shanmukha at 12:24 AM 0 comments Friday. regarding the issue as I understood from him. 2008 Chara Karaka --> 7 or 8 Om Namah Sivaya Namaste All. excepting Rahu becoming Atma Karaka. But. I can tell you that much work is in progress in the background to bring these commentaries to light. He considers Parasara Hora is a compendium of all the astrological principles available. Regarding the Chara Karaka issue. we shall have to submit the translation or the commentary in English in return to the benefit of the fraternity. but he always says that 3rd and 4th adhyayas available now are merely the interpolated versions.Jaimini Sutramritam: Search results for jaimini light Page 13 of 18 I am not saying everything in ancient commentaries is fool proof. Let us wish all the best to those volunteers doing such noble work. He has shown how Rahu can be other Chara Karaka vide his Jaimini Sutramritam Sanskrit – English Commentary. let us start unlearn something and learn Jaimini from start. that is a compilation work. he works out the way Narasimha worked out. December 5. I have been closely following the discussion on Chara Karakas and the article by Narasimha on Sohamsa group. Hence.htm 25/Sep/2010 . I observed in one of Visti’s earlier mails referred Sri Iranganti Rangacharya opines that Jaimini Sutras are complete and nothing is missing.V. I want to put forth the views of Sri Rangacharya. He considers Jaimini sutras are much earlier to Parasara Hora since the Sutra Vangmaya is much earlier to Sloka Vangmaya. He always reiterates that to understand Jaimini Sage. That’s the reason why he didn’t attempt to translate them. Shanmukha. nor a Jyotisha scholar nor a Sanskrit scholar. As per the information available with me. Vriddha Karikas are the authority. Though. I want to state that I am neither a spokesperson for Sri Rangacharya.Raman. He has not shown the file://C:\Users\Ram Mohan Mishra\Desktop\New Folder\Ast\New Folder (3)\search. The following lines are purely my understanding regarding the issue. Are you ready to take on? Warm regards. do we know that these concepts exist at all in the first place? How long shall we be in darkness regarding Jaimini system? Come on friends. But. I request all to give a serious try to these ancient commentaries. I can tell you that we are going to see them very soon.

how many of us know that Raghava Bhatta and Nrisimha Suri extensively used calculation of 8th house according to vriddha karika? How many of us know there are special ayurdasas called “Jaya Bhava Pamsa. he doesn’t find Pitri Karaka. I admit that Pitri Karaka was mentioned in one of the manuscript (palm leave) I happened to see. HE can be treated as file://C:\Users\Ram Mohan Mishra\Desktop\New Folder\Ast\New Folder (3)\search. Of course. Well. since Rahu is karaka for Bandhana. Sri Rangacharya opines that “Eke” word in “Mata Saha …” sutra means that Sage Jaimini does not endorse combining MK and PK. But. In fact this debate is there for the ages. Uttara Kalamrita and brihaspata samhita are exceptions. Hence. we don’t find pitri karaka after Matri Karaka. out of eight planets. he is the first person to interpret Saturn as karaka for elder brother for the sutra “Mando Jyayan Graheshu”. Jataka Tatwa by Mahadeva Pathak is very recent scholar and he never dealt any of Rasi dasas. Vriddha Karikas are the authority.Amk. if you look in at the calculation of 8th house given by Sanjay ji is also not mentioned by Jaimini. Hence it should be kept in mind that to understand Jaimini. we have to resolve this not only with scientific approach but also with practical examples. Why I say Parasara is not the final authority on Jamini Sutras is the fact that no astrological classic said to be of Parasara system. it can be debated whether “Tasya Pitah” ever existed. Sri Narasimha was right in that direction. That method is deduced from Vriddha Karika. By the way.PuK. since Parasara is the only rishi who could compile so beautifully all the astrological principles available. In his commentary. the karakas are AK. I think. Yes.BK.MK. in the manuscript referred to by Sri Vadrevu Suryanarayana Murthy. never dealt the concepts like Padas. But. Atmano Bhava Pamsa Dasas extensively dealt by Raghava Bhatta and Nrisimha Suri ? I request all to read “Jaimini Sutramritam” by Sri Rangacharya. He tells that Rahu can’t become Atma Karaka since Jaimini himself says that “ Sa Ishte Bandha Mokshayoh”. Hence. meaning that AK can give either Bandhana or Moksha. According to him. Again. He tells that interpreting Sutra Vangmaya is different from the case with sloka Vangmaya. Rasi Drishti and argala. As I said earlier I am not a spokesperson for him and the above points can be taken worth of their salt. BPHS can be taken as one of the vriddha karika. Hence. Somebody argued that Jaimini didn’t mention the special condition of including Rahu only when two planets occupy the same degree. he can never be considered for chara atma karaka.Jaimini Sutramritam: Search results for jaimini light Page 14 of 18 case with Rahu becoming higher longitude planet after deducting from 30 degrees. But.htm 25/Sep/2010 . I want to reiterate that he has not shown as how to consider Rahu when he becomes highest longitude planet. one thing I can honestly say that Sri Rangacharya is fighting through out his life for the cause of Jaimini Astrology. since he is the only commentator who dared to give Vriddha Karika slokas in his commentary. By the way.GK and DK only.

GK. minutes etc. Each and every word the great Sage speaks of. This is my humble view. Combining above two proves that only 7 CK and MK. Atma --> The Atma Karka Summarizing. he would never say “ Saptanam” He doesn’t endorse the opinion of MK and PK same. is called Atma karaka. Taking 8 CK for living beings and 7 CK for Mundane is not given either in any Jaimini work or Vriddha karika or in BPHS. and DK. Sorry for deviating from the issue. PuK. MK. In fact all sutra vangmaya is specific and cryptic as well. has a very specific purpose and distinct meaning. Jaimini never wastes even a letter. If one thinks that Sage indeed did that. Vriddha Karika is again very specific. When he says “Eke”. It means Sage is saying that the planet which has more degrees out of 7 or 8 planets is Atma Karaka. Well. The relevent Jaimini Sutra reads as " Atmadhika Kaladirnabhoga Saptanaam Asthanam Va". BK. Kala. The other way is also possible. AmK. Jaimini is always specific in his sutras. in the ensuing sutras he speaks about each every karaka by name. So he treats MK and PK different.htm 25/Sep/2010 . of chara karakas to be considered. then it is dishonouring the Sage only. PuK different and they are AK. file://C:\Users\Ram Mohan Mishra\Desktop\New Folder\Ast\New Folder (3)\search. Now let us understand the Sutra bit by bit "Atmadhika Kalaadibhirnabhoga Saptaanaam Astaanaam Va" Saptaanam Asthaanaam Va --> Out of 7 or 8 Nabhoga --> Nabho Gachhati --> that moves in sky --> the planet Adhika --> More Kalaadi --> Bhaga. Vikala etc. the one gets more degrees. if one thinks that Jaimini asking us to consider the planet having more degrees out of 7 or 8 Karakas doesn't hold good.Jaimini Sutramritam: Search results for jaimini light Page 15 of 18 one of the authority but not the final. I write below my humble understanding regarding chara karaka. Since. in his cryptic upadesa sutras. When Jaimini Speaks “Saptanam AshtanamVa” If he considers 8 CK then. it is not necessary that sage telling the no. forget about a word. Even if we look at the verses given by Narasimha in his Chara Karaka article look like merely inspired / interpolated verses from Vriddha Karika. it means that it is not his opinion. we get the meaning --> Out of Seven or eight planets.

But. three karakas file://C:\Users\Ram Mohan Mishra\Desktop\New Folder\Ast\New Folder (3)\search. He didn’t spell out the condition as when to consider 7 or 8 planets. BK same degree --> Rahu comes in and one planet omitted Now other than AK 1. only Pitri Karaka inclusion in Chara Karaka scheme is doubtful and since it is there in some manuscripts and not in some. Sage only states 4 sthira karakas BK -----> Mars PK -----> Jupiter GK ----> Mercury DK -----> Venus We can get the karaka for Mother and Father as the stronger of Moon and Mars.. Vriddha Karika comes to rescue. then Rahu comes in. But Sage himself mentions MK vide sutra “Mata Saha Putra…. it is to be decided whether to include Pik or PK. AmK. experiments and sadhana. If AK. Nasargika Bala considered 3. If two Planets --> one planet. out of 7 CK. then one chara karaka will be omitted and will be filled up by corresponding sthira karaka.. how to include 8 planets for 7 CK scheme? If two planets are at the same degree. he would never say Asthtanaam Va”. Its well known to the commentators like Sri Raghava Bhatta and Nrisimha Suri and they have even given the karakas for parents. one may doubt the inclusion of MK since no sthira karaka is mentioned. we can understand Venus is Karaka for Parents vide sutra “ Patni Pitarau …. Hence.htm 25/Sep/2010 .Jaimini Sutramritam: Search results for jaimini light Page 16 of 18 If he considers only 7 planets. If four planets --> three planets. 2. we must resolve it with research. Now. Now. Now. If five planets --> 4 planets. for each dasa rasi apart from chara karakas. No karaka 1. PuK must be included. two karakas 4. If three planets --> two planets. If you closely look at the Sutras we don’t find specific sthira Karaka for Mata and Pita. and the stronger of Sun and Venus respectively from other adhyayas. one Karaka omitted 3. Interpreting 3rd house from Mars etc. brothers etc.”. Now. If three planets are at the same degree. For example 1. If each planet at different degrees --> No Rahu coming in. Since sage himself spaks that MK and PuK are different. hence he asks us to consider 8 planets. is not new to Jaimini system. If AK and AmK at same degree --> No Rahu coming in.”.

where in he takes the DMS again to find the AK. Well. If seven planets --> -doThe above is found in Rangacharya’s Jaimini Sutramritam and he has been following it since 30-40 years.Jaimini Sutramritam: Search results for jaimini light Page 17 of 18 5.” Sutra. I know the above explanation is not clear and logical but it shows the way vriddha karikas instructed to do. It shall be born in mind that we must move further keeping and continually referring to vriddha karikas to understand Jaimini Sutras. It must be researched and applied to know the accuracy of each scheme. based on the “Satallabhayo ….htm 25/Sep/2010 . Yet. I get consistent results with taking the planet having more DMS (Degree. I request all to understand vriddha karka slokas well. whatever Narasimha wrote in his article is not new and well practiced by Jaimini scholars excepting Rahu becoming AK. Minites. most English Jaimini commentaries never mention these slokas. But he doesn’t apply this to AK. not just debating on it. I want to say that whatever the interpretation. This not as Visti's article on Karaka Kendradi Rasi Dasa. I am giving below the relevant Vriddha Karika sloka. it can be experimented. So. if Narsimha considers AK can’t be taken over. then AK must be taken over by sthira karaka. Panapharas and Apoklimas. But. Krishna Mishra in his Jyotish file://C:\Users\Ram Mohan Mishra\Desktop\New Folder\Ast\New Folder (3)\search. if so then. when Ak and Amk are at the same degree. Here Vriddha karika is very specific that AK cannot be omitted. The duration calculation is very peculiar. since it is vriddha showing the beacon of light. That’s the precise reason why you don’t find sthira karaka for Atma and Amatya karaka. Now. 4 karakas 6. Karaka dasa given by Narasimha. comes how to use karaka lopa. Seconds) as AK. and taking PiK in place of PK in 7 CK scheme. Vriddha Karika shows two ways of Ommission of Antya Karaka and Agrima Karaka. new sort of distorting knowledge is happening. is different in Jaimini Astrology. It is called AtmaKaraka Dasa and start from the Rasi occupied by AK and proceeds Kendras. my answer is NO. Alas. Sri Narasimha considers Agrima Karaka lopa. then he must consider Antya Karaka Lopa scheme. So. Some learned scholars even wrote article on Lagnamsaka dasa as phalita dasa. So. Sri Rangacharya’s method of taking Naisargika strong Graha for AK when AK and AmK are at the Same Degree seems logical and in accordance with Vriddha Karika. Now. Vriddha karika again mentions that Atma Karaka never gets omitted in Antya karak lopa scheme. If anyone gets the feeling that I am saying there shall not be any independent interpretation of sutras. If six planets --> 5 planets. it must not contradict the vriddha karika slokas. “Amsa Samye Grahau Dwau Chet Jayetam Yasya Janmani Swa Karakam Vina Lupyati Chantya Karakaha Nischayam” So.

we must follow vriddha only. New Commentator may contradict with other ancient commentators like Neelakantha. works well. not merely asking to explain every thing under the sky with chara karaks. Posted by Shanmukha at 6:29 AM 0 comments Newer Posts Home Older Posts Subscribe to: Posts (Atom) click for html hit counter code Hit Counter file://C:\Users\Ram Mohan Mishra\Desktop\New Folder\Ast\New Folder (3)\search. sincerely. but not with Vriddha Karikas. Well. They are like sritis.htm 25/Sep/2010 . I have not touched how to use chara karakas for interpretation. I hope I could put my points straight. Thanks for reading along. This is like the other scholar writing book on Manduka dasa without understanding what Vriddha karika says about Manduka dasa. Vriddha Karika method of including Rahu when two planets are at the same degree. mentions Lagnamsaka dasa as Ayur dasa. preference must be given to Sriti only. As it is said if you have a doubt and Sriti and Purana differing on the issue. Raghava Bhatta. Similarly if commentator contradicts with Vriddha Karika.Jaimini Sutramritam: Search results for jaimini light Page 18 of 18 Phala Ratanamaala. and I request readers to study vriddha karikas. Warm Regards. Let the knowledge come everywhere. This is my beginning in understanding CK scheme. I don’t know how to use. Shanmukha. It is proven time and again and Narasimha finds the same.