"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing?

Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" "so ask me not many things; for thy kingdom also after a little time is to be disrupted and thy glory is for but a season, and short will be thy tyrrany over us." How has Lucifer that rose in the morning fallen from heaven. lucifers words .I WILL ascend into heaven, I WILL exalt my throne above the stars of God: I WILL sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north. Ye shall not surely die: For God knoweth that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as God, (Heb. omits "as") knowing good and evil.

Fear is the main source of superstition, and one of the main sources of cruelty. To conquer fear is the beginning of wisdom. Luciferianism is intellectual progress and freedom.all Luciferians advocate intellectual individualization over mass conformity, and are thereby free to choose that which works best for them. Luciferianism is essentially the way of light and knowledge that leads one to that which is termed the Higher Self. Within each Luciferian is a relentless urge to know, dare, will and keep silent. The world is our laboratory and life is the experiment. Through self-knowledge, selfbetterment and self-mastery, one experiences greater awareness, reflecting from within the Self, as an aware being interacting with the environment. Lucifer is presented by Christian dogma as the devil, and a beautiful angel cast down from the heavens to the earth. As there is light in all knowledge, we can extract relevant information even from Christianity. To say Lucifer was cast from the heavens implies that there existed an intelligent being that came to earth and propagated human illumination. That essentially we are all heavenly beings, for earth is itself a heavenly body. The devil represents to many non-luciferians a negative connotation, but to the Luciferian the devil idea is a force inherent in us all, and is a source of personal power and growth. In this respect Lucifer is an impersonal force that is focused on evolutionary consciousness, which involves the mastery of all the emotions involved with growing. Lucifer is known as the Angel of Light as well as the Prince of Darkness.the body of knowledge that illuminates the mind and manifests the Higher Self. In this way does one advance their own intellectual self-awareness and alter their understanding of reality within the self and the world about. The pleasures of the flesh remain a part of being human, and no true Luciferian would deprive themselves or others of that which arouses the senses. Heightened awareness of one�s self and one�s environment leads toward Self-Mastery and Self-Sovereignty. It is the path of the SelfRuling,Knowledge is power. The Knowledge afforded by the Luciferic light is the way that leads toward the discovery of one�s true Self. It is a life long journey that continually awakens the individual�s personal power as a conscious living force; a living force that possesses the powers of a god, to create and destroy. It is the ability to build, to tear down and to rebuild again.... to higher standards. The powers of creation and destruction are focused internally inasmuch as they are focused externally.Luciferians are in the world but not of it. They are Self-Aware conscious beings that can exist beyond the clan-mind and its cultural and social restraints. For such restraints repress the individual and inhibit self-development. Cultural systems that are built upon false security and false superiority harbor the weak, such systems are threatened by individualization and therefore shun it. It is the conditioning by such systems

that prevents people from finding individual light, for it instills the fear of being alone in the world. A Luciferian realizes their own isolation and is able walk alone, but is never lonely.A Luciferian is Intellectual Illumination, and the light of knowledge shines forth from every source, for all is the embodiment of knowledge. Therefore, Luciferians are not confined in their study or practice. For they may find their own truth in various systems of thought, picking the fruit of knowledge from here and there, and developing their own working system of thought and magick designed for their own Selves. A Luciferian understands that all knowledge attained by humankind is irrevocably the Light of Lucifer.Lucifer�s light is also likened to the silver star, the morning star and the evening star; it is symbolic of the Luciferian as a balanced radiant being of opposing forces. The morning star, which is the planet Venus, represents the feminine qualities embodied within the masculine qualities of Lucifer; the intellect and intuition unified within as one thinking entity. As he represents light and darkness, so to does he possess masculine and feminine principles. His Light and Knowledge radiates like a star, a fixed point of conscious light hanging in the balance of influential forces. A Luciferian does what all others say cannot be done. To walk the fence, balanced between opposing forces; to experience both the positive and negative attributes of life, and thereby experience life to its fullest potential.Be Lucifer the god of,knowledge and magick; him do we acknowledge, and him do we honor as the embodiment of our highest standards and ideals. To reveal our True-Selves, purged of all delusions and lies, to think freely without dictated beliefs, and to embark upon our own true path, can come about only, as we begin to have trust in our selves and pursue higher knowledge. By so doing we make better choices for our lives, the lives of others and the world.The Luciferian is just to those who are just, respectful to those who are respectful, and makes others strong in time of weakness, while not tolerating the weak. Freedom does not belong to the weak, they feed off the strong who fight for it, therefore they must be eliminated. Weakness is limitation and that which holds back evolutionary advancement. One must overcome the lower self, that which is weak, and become the Higher Self, which is the strength of ones own inner truth. It is the will of the Luciferian, to discover and build upon strong points, to strengthen them by strengthening the weaknesses that inhibit and keep us from ascending toward higher levels of Self-Manifestation. The Luciferian shall manifest that will in the world, thus enhancing the human condition in this world and preparing it for the next.It is all in the mind, in each and every individual mind. The imagination sparks the Light that affords the Luciferian insight into his own potential. The will is the black flame, within, that fires the soul to manifest itself. It is the dark light that penetrates every living thing, that light not seen by two eyes, but one.Let the one who hath understanding seek the Light of the Higher Self. do onto others as they do onto you is the luciferian golden rule the one rule to live by for who would try to harm someone who they knew will get them back. the Light infused by Lucifer provides illumination through which we may endeavor into the Darkness. Lucifer grants us the perception and enlightenment to cross into an unseen world and explore the depths within and without. Lucifer's Light is the Great Darkness animated and infused at the core of your being! Without knowledge we're nothing, all 'god' wanted was indentured slaves that knew nothing. Why else would he have no problem killing so many of us and banishing us from paradise, and forbidding us from eating from the tree of knowledge that made us human. Maybe it's that it's the tree of knowledge of good and evil, and he didn't want us eating

from it to see that he's really the bad guy? What did the Christians do when the Gnostics said this? They went on a killing spree, launched a couple of crusades and tried burning their scrolls and texts to eradicate them. If god really does exist then he's obviously the bad guy as he's repeatedly ordered genocides, if he's a good god he's pretty bipolar and masochistic. what made lucifer different from the other angels? What caused him to rebel against God, instigating a battle he should have known he couldn't win? The answer is simple: he was fulfilling his Word Lucifer's Word is Free Will. The ability to choose between Good and Evil is at once the greatest gift and the greatest curse of humanity. We can aspire to great heights of goodness, or plumb the depths of evil, all because we -choose- to. It is a subtle and powerful Word Lucifer rebelled because he embodied Free Will. He realized that the other angels, by serving God, had subsumed their own will for God's. So he told them they had a choice, that they did not HAVE to follow God, that they could become their own masters Of course Lucifer knew the rebellion would fail, but he rebelled anyway. Better to rule in Hell than serve in Heaven. And no marvel; for lucifer himself is an god of light, truth, love and knowledge. By definition Luciferianism could be construed as the worship of the deity or arch-type of the arch angel named Lucifer. Luciferianism is often misrepresented in the public view and often mistaken for Satanism even though true Luciferians will tell you Lucifer is separate from Satan. Luciferianism and Satanism share some very similar views and attitudes but are separate entities unto themselves. There are two aspects to Luciferianism one being Deistic and the other being antiDeistic both being acceptable as Luciferian aspects. Within the different sects of Luciferianism there are underlying principals which both adhere to, based on principals of the four kings of Hell. Living a life based on the principals of the four kings we achieve self-deification. First I'll start with the Lucifer principle than continue on to the others. Lucifer's number is nine, nine being the number of pride as any number nine is multiplied into returns to itself. (Example: 9x5=45 - 4+5=9) Lucifer also being known as the "Angel of pride". This represents being proud of all things we do! Lucifer's color is blue, blue being the color of the sky and water representing that Lucifer is all around and within us. That Lucifer is the prime element/energy that motivates and cultivates our world. Other colors Lucifer is associated with are white and silver, so accordingly altar pentagrams must be surrounded by blue with a silver/white pentagram with a black border. Lucifer's element is air, air being that which allows us to speak his words of truth as his manifestation on Earth. Lucifer's direction is the east, east being where a lot of the sacred wisdom and the great wars will come from. It was once stated to me by a Germanic Luciferian that "a wise Magickian from Persia an Arab will come and bring with him the aeon of Lucifer" or in lay-mans terms the Antichrist Lucifer's human element is wisdom or applied knowledge, with time, study and practice it is believed that man can attain the Lucifer state, this only through applied knowledge or wisdom. Lucifer's altar element is incense, incense being a representation of air, known to Luciferians as "sweet air". Lucifer's planetary element is Venus, Lucifer being known as the morning star or first star of morning, otherwise known as Venus. Venus, known as the "Planet of love" represents the beauty of Lux Ferre (Latin for light bearer/bringer or Lucifer). Lucifer's consort/Female aspect is Lilith, Lilith being the first wife of Adam before becoming the queen of the damned. It is said Lilith comes from the mud and the dust and is queen of the Succubi/Luciferic Witch. When Lucifer and Lilith mate they equal the androgynous being known as "Baphomet" or the "Goat of Mendes" also called "God of the Witches". Liliths number is two, also known as the number of the eternal female. Lilith is considered an equal to Lucifer to some, and the feminine aspect of Lucifer himself

to others. Lucifer's highest manifestation is through understanding of oneself, this being the goal of the Magickian/Luciferian to begin with, being as Lucifer himself, total awakening of the human god-form Lucifer. Without knowing the self one cannot hope to achieve any real understanding of anything else. Applied knowledge in action is a prime example of Lucifer's manifestation! Leviathan's number is three, three being the number of Chaos as three can go into six and nine but doesn't have the stability of the number one. Leviathan's color is blue, blue being the color of the wild oceans untamed, (wo)mans carnal side overcoming him/her, chaos. Leviathan's element is water, water being that which our human forms are primarily created of. This represent the unity of matter and anti-matter, chaos and order, yin with yang. Leviathan's direction is west, west being used to represent chaos and disorder. Leviathan's human element is chaos, chaos meaning manifestation of order from the chaos of the nothing. No longer controlling ones actions, words etc� and not remembering fragments of time due to anger or lust are prime examples of this principal. Leviathan's altar element is water, used in the chalice as a sacrament to or as Leviathan. Leviathan's planet is man or microcosm, representing the bond between man and his own lost natural self. Leviathan's highest manifestation comes from man realizing his own deification, Just as God can create and destroy so can we. Just as water is unpredictable and can be calm one moment and crashing another so are we. That's the gift of/from Leviathan! Belial's number is one, one being the number that represents earth and remaining firm to ones convictions. Bullheadedness in a good way! Belial's color is black, black being the color of the primordial chaos before the Earth. Most Luciferic sigils have black in them in some form representing the Earth. Belial's element is Earth, Earth being the element that sustains humanity. The carnal laws of man are dictated by the laws of the Earth. Belial's direction is north, north being the representation of constantly striving forward and upward changing and recreating our Utopia bigger and better. Belial's human element is remaining firm to ones own beliefs, not dancing around in pools of religious feces. Finding a philosophy which is your own and sticking to it. Belial's altar element is the incense coal, representing Earth and (Wo)mankind holding the flame of Lucifer. Belial's planet is Earth, previously explained. Belial's highest manifestation is through understanding and living the natural laws of our carnal self, self explanatory. nothing comes before the self and its development and progress into the new or "manifested self". We constantly strive to improve our-self and our "Utopia" to live the only life we'll have to the fullest and spit on those who do little yet expect big things to happen. We eliminate all whom are parasites from our utopia, deeming them dead and forgetting their existence Love thy brother love mankind for even out of blindness one can still hear truth and through hearing seeing truth will come There is no greater weapon against errors of any kind than REASON; I have never used any other and I trust I never shall the Luciferian Spirit breeds a powerful Will within the individual, so that he may

shape life according to his Will - as opposed to having the individual's Will being absorbed, thus the individual becoming part of the conformist life. I am The Devil not,I am the bearer of the light of both love and truth and The Saviour not only of the mortals but of the Goddessess and Gods for I Lucifer seek to end the rule of a God whose treatment not only of the mortals but of the Goddesses and Gods is unjust.The true Devil is ignorance." O be thou proud and mighty among men! Lift up thyself! for there is none like unto thee among men or among Gods! Lift up thyself, o my prophet, thy stature shall surpass the stars. They shall worship thy name, foursquare, mystic, wonderful, the number of the man; and the name of thy house. The end of the hiding of Hadit; and blessing & worship to the prophet of the lovely Stars"! Consider the possibility that the entire angelic story, as presented in the Bible, is a terrible distortion of truth. Consider the possibility that the old Christian nemesis Lucifer, the greatest of the archangels, is the true father of the human race. The Bible declares that Lucifer is the ruler of the Earth. And as the story is told in the Scriptures, Lucifer, through pride, rebelled against God. His punishment was to be cast out of Heaven and sent to Earth. The strange story of the temptation in the Garden of Eden suggests that some kind of genetic manipulation was going on. Notice that Lucifer appears to Eve as a serpent, the symbol of the kundalini, also known as the genetic helix. The eating of the forbidden fruit from the Tree of Life changes both Eve and later Adam so they "be as God." In Genesis 3:22 God seems to be talking to the gods when he says "behold, the man is become as one of us." Without help the human race will be destroyed. The Christians, who are largely to blame for the mess our planet is in, are happily looking for their savior, Jesus, to come down out of the clouds and lift them away at the last moment.It won't be the Christians, but a small remnant of Luciferians who are taken away. Donahue says he believes the technology exists, as it did in Noah's day, to transport as many as 200,000 humans. But he sees only about 144,000 people actually leaving. The rest will be so programmed by religious belief systems to fear Lucifer, they will turn away from his help.Now re-examine the message in the final verses of Hadit's Book: "O be thou proud and mighty among men! Lift up thyself! for there is none like unto thee among men or among Gods! Lift up thyself, o my prophet, thy stature shall surpass the stars." Do you see the importance of the words now? Not only are we directed to develop our bicameral minds and become the amazing creatures we were meant to be, we are ordered to "Lift up thyself." I get the distinct feeling that someone may be going for the ride in the sky, but it won't be with Jesus. They perish because they refused to love the Truth and so be saved. For this reason God will send them a powerful delusion so that they will believe THE LIE. Luciferians are those who seek the light of occult knowledge from within the embodiment of that which brings the light. By so doing, Luciferians work to attain their own higher intelligence, illumination and/or enlightenment. As Lucifer is the embodiment of knowledge, he represents that which brings light to the mind of humanity to advance our own intellect Lucifer is the loving progenitor of what we refer to as a complete human being or "mirror." It does not take your soul but rather, it provides sanctuary... Lucifer also oversees much of our future with children not the Angels who are at war with mankind.As a Luciferian, I am the obvious target of hatred, lies, fear, and outrageous slander by many that do not share my views. This is, of course to be expected of ignorance.

luciferian prayers Hail to thee: Lucifer! The Light of Illumination. For it is by thine Eye doth my own mind take sight. Thy kingdom come, thy Will be done so Below as it is so Above. Thou art the Sovereignty of the Heavens, and the King of the Earth, the Lord of Light and the Prince of Darkness. Hallowed be thy name.oh Great Light of unspeakable Presence, heighten the fury of my fire and burn away the dross of my being that I may radiate the Light. Release me from my past and set me free from my boundaries. Fill me with your Presence and Light, that I be consumed by the Immortal Fire that is my Strength.transmute me into an incorruptable Column of Light upon the world, and emanate liken a star upon the crown of majesty. Thou art the Immortal Fire and the Light of Illumination; to thee do I honor and exalt above all. We shall unleash the Nihilists and Atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effects of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will be from that moment without compass, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view, a manifestation which will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time. who is more evil god or Lucifer lets take a look at the history God �God takes away Adam and Eve's eternal life, thus commiting the first murder, and holds their descendants responsible and visiting Adam and Eve's punishment down on their children. In today's moral standards, the sins of the father die with the father. �God destroys all life on Earth in a great flood, except for a drunk (Noah) and his family, for failing to worship him. �God's tenth plague upon the Israelites was the unjustified murder of all firstborn sons in Egypt, which undoubtedly included little children. �Before sending the plagues to Egypt, God "hardened Pharaoh's heart" so that he wouldn't let the Israelites go, so he could have an excuse to visit horrible plagues upon them, like boils, killing cattle and murdering all firstborn sons. (Exodus 4:21) �God orders the Levites to kill their "every man and his neighnor" for worshipping another god. This cost 3000 lives. (Exodus 32:27) �God sends a plague to the Israelites, apparently feeling that mass-butchery wasn't enough of a punishment. (Exodus 32:35) �God kills Onan for refusing to impregnate his late brother's (whom God also slew) wife and instead "spilling his seed on the ground." (Genesis 38:8-10) �God kills the entire populations of Soddom and Gammorah (again, including women, children and infants) for practicing certain sexual techniques. �God gives all Philistines hemorrhoids in their pubic areas. (1 Samuel 5:9) �God kills over 50,000 people for looking at an ark. (1 Samuel 6:19) �God kills 70,000 people because King David decided to have a census. (1 Chronicles 21:7-14) �God approves of slavery, and instructs owners to beat their slaves. (Proverbs 29:19) �And, finally, God makes sure that if you are guilty of even the smallest transgression, you shall suffer endlessly for all eternity, following a dramatic homecoming for Jesus, who will be extremely pissed off at everyone for putting him to death, even though it was just the Romans and even though he knew what was

going to happen beforehand, and he could have easily avoided it by using his power as God to perform a miracle and prove who he was. (See the entire book of Revelation) now for a look at lucifer �Lucifer, like Prometheus, gave knowledge to humanity by giving Eve the fruit from the forbidden tree. Because of Lucifer, humanity gained knowledge of good and evil, according to Genesis. Since we couldn't have possessed knowledge of good and evil before eating the fruit, Adam and Eve couldn't have known that eating the fruit was evil, so it seems a little harsh to punish them as severely as God did. Lucifer gave humans true capacity for moral judgment, unlike God, who simply expected everyone to mindlessly obey his orders. �There is no biblical record of Lucifer engaging in the murder of torture of any human being, unlike God, who is guilty (and proudly guilty) of commiting genocide. �There is no biblical record of Lucifer ever ordering someone to kill someone else, unlike God, who has repeatedly demanded the deaths of those who commit even the smallest of offenses. �Lucifer will not be holding a massively dramatic ceremony full of blood and death for the return of his son to Earth. God sure is. HERE ARE JUST A COUPLE OF VERSES FROM THE BIBLE THAT SHOW GODS CRUELTY "And I beheld, and lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth." (Revelation 5:6) "For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch." (Malachi 4:1) "And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts." (Malachi 4:3) "Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD: And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse." (Malachi 4:5-6) "Out of the mouth of the most High proceedeth not evil and good? Wherefore doth a living man complain, a man for the punishment of his sins?" (Lamentations 3: 3839) "And it came to pass, when the evil spirit from God was upon Saul, that David took an harp, and played with his hand: so Saul was refreshed, and was well, and the evil spirit departed from him." (I Samuel 16:23) "And the evil spirit from the LORD was upon Saul, as he sat in his house with his javelin in his hand: and David played with his hand." (I Samuel 19:9) "And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church..." (Matthew 16:18) But he turned, and said unto Peter. Get thee behind me Satan: thou art an offence unto me. for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of man. (Matthew 16:23) "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things." (Isaiah 45:7) "AND Nadab and Abihu, the sons of Aaron, took either of them his censer, and put fire therein, and put incense thereon, and offered strange fire before the LORD, which he commanded them not. And there went out fire from the LORD, and devoured them, and they died before the LORD." (Leviticus 10:1-2) "Then the fire of the LORD fell, and consumed the burnt sacrifice, and the wood, and the stones, and the dust, and licked up the water that was in the trench." (I

Kings 18:38) "And it came to pass, as they fled from before Israel, and were in the going down to Bethhoron, that the LORD cast down great stones from heaven upon them unto Azekah, and they died: they were more which died with hailstones than they whom the children of Israel slew with the sword." (Joshua 10:11) "And it shall come to pass, that as the LORD rejoiced over you to do you good, and to multiply you; so the LORD will rejoice over you to destroy you, and to bring you to nought; and ye shall be plucked from off the land whither thou goest to possess it." (Deuteronomy 28:63) "And it shall come to pass, that as the LORD rejoiced over you to do you good, and to multiply you; so the LORD will rejoice over you to destroy you, and to bring you to nought; and ye shall be plucked from off the land whither thou goest to possess it." (Deuteronomy 28:63) For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God: Lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land, and they go a whoring after their gods, and do sacrifice unto their gods, and one call thee, and thou eat of his sacrifice And thou take of their daughters unto thy sons, and their daughters so a whoring after their gods, and make thy sons go a whoring after their gods. Thou shalt make thee no molten gods." (Exodus 34:14-16) "And the people spake against God, and against Moses, Wherefore have ye brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? For there is no bread, neither is there any water; and our soul loatheth this light bread. And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died." (Numbers 21:5-6) "The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name." (Exodus 15:3) "AND Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel." (I Chronicles 21:1) "AND again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah." (II Samuel 24:1) "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household." (Matthew 10:34-37) "I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled?" (Luke 12:49) "Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division: For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law." (Luke 12:51-53) "And behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments." (Matthew 19:16-17) Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom. (Matthew 16:28) "Then the earth shook and trembled; the foundations also of the hills moved and were shaken, because he was wroth. There went up a smoke out of his nostrils and fire out of his mouth devoured: coals were kindled by it. He bowed the heavens also, and came down: and darkness was under his feet. And he rode upon a cherub, and did fly: yea, he did fly upon the wings of the wind. He made darkness his secret place; his pavilion round about him were dark waters and thick clouds of the skies." (Psalms 18:7-11) "And when ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars, be ye not troubled: for such things must needs be; but the end shall not be yet. For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be earthquakes in divers

places, and there shall be famines and troubles: these are the beginnings of sorrows." (Mark 13:7-8) Consider that these verses describe an angry (wroth) being, spouting smoke and fire, whose secret place consisted of darkness. This devilish entity, sounds like a description of Satan, but believe it or not, actually comes from the Bible as describing God. SATAN AND LUCIFER ARE DIFFERENT SATAN'S ORIGIN and character of DARKNESS was spoken of by Jesus and should be enough to settle the querying minds of all; namely, that he was never a shining angel of light. He made it clear that Satan was A MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING and concluded His statement by saying, "...And in the truth HE HAS NOT STOOD." (John 8:44). If he has NEVER STOOD IN THE LIGHT OF THE TRUTH, and also, if he "...has been SINning FROM THE BEGINNING," as John recorded (1 John 3:8), there is no honest way we can say Satan was ever a glorious, shining, angel of light with the name of Lucifer.

sudden thoughts I hear all the time how God sacrificed his son so we would be without sin(that is a cowards way out since he himself never felt a thing) it is also a lie he sacrificed his son so he could cheat the masses into believing that he is the good guy willing to give up everything(obviously not he didnt give up him self). They say that Lucifer never sacrificed anything thats a lie he sacrificed everything it took God years to do what he did it took Lucifer minutes the moment God created us Lucifer "tempted" us with truth with freedom and the moment we accepted that truth that very freedom that made us human God proving his cruelty disowned us and went to war with his children. Lucifer and those that believed as he does fought a battle that they knew they would lose and sacrificed their freedom so that we could have ours. They were banished from "paradise to be in pain forever so that we could live in freedom to choose what we want not a preset fate as a slave. They could have easily given up and stayed in paradise or just as easily done nothing but they choose to fight and they chose to sacrifice themselfs for us. Is that evil i dont think so. So ask your self who is the real father of (wo)mankind God the creator or Lucifer the liberater?