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The Secret Behind Vimshottari Dasha
There are many types of Dashās, ten of which are based on Nakshatras.
Vimshottari Dashā is held to be the most important Dashā System in Jyotisha of
Vedic-Purānic tradition. Most often, astrologers of this tradition do not even
take into consideration other dashā systems and base their conclusions solely
upon Vimshottari.
Following points must be considered before deciding anything in this regard :
(1) BPHS (Brihat Parashara Hora Shastra) never said solar year should should
be used for Vimshottari;
(2) BPHS clearly said that Vimshottari must be computed from Moon's position
and not from Sun's position;
(3) Vimshottari year is of 360 days which may have two meanings : lurar year
of 360 tithis or savana year of 360 days, but this savana year of 360 days is a
later myth with neither any scientific validity supporting any solar cycle of 360
days nor any basis in ancient sisshantas, and
(4) the final proof is Suryasiddhantic software 'Kundalee' which must be tested
before rushing to conclusions.
Vimshottari is the most important dasha system according to all "authorities" ,
but owing to wrong methods of its computation, it has become less precise ; as
a result instead of rectifying their own errors some modern messiahs are giving
more weight other dasha systems, some of which are not even mentioned in
BPHS. But if ancient method of computation is used, Vimshottari Dasha proves
to be to be the most influential dasha system
But there are two obstacles which prevent accurate timing of events with the
help of vimshottari system. One is the use of Drik-pakshiya mathematics, ie,
modern astronomy , for finding true longitudes of planets and ascendant, etc.
Second problem is the use of solar year for reckoning, in spite of the fact that
all ancient texts explicitly mention that the year of vimshottari system

God and gods are conscious entities and it is wrong to conceptualize them as material bodies. The maximum amount of correction made in mean Moon according to Suryasiddhānta is nearly 1.comprises of 360 days only. And then add the 3% error due to wrong year imposed upon vimshottari system. like other ancient systems. during solar nakshatra) rainfall data of past 135 years of India have been tested. Material planets intruded into astrology only during past one or two millenia. and this software is 100% accurate. These traditional panchāngas are crudely made. Saturn and Rahu (lunar node) will vary by 2 years and more. Due to this factor alone. Add to this 3% error the difference on account of Drikpakshiya and Saur-pakshiya positions of Moon. distributed as a freeware for philanthropic purpose. there are 360 tithis or lunar days. Add to it the difference due to descrepancies between Surya-siddhāntic mean Moon with the mean Moon of materialist astronomy. Total error in timing of vimshottari dashās will be over 5 years in . cyclones. Indian tradition year is a ccombination of solar and lunar. This software has been tested for natural disasters like floods. accurate upto prāna-dashā. hence its year ought to be lunar. earthquakes. which is the year of vimshottari system. etc and the result is 100% positive. All ancient texts of Vedic-Purānic tradition say that the Grahas of Jyotisha are gods and are diverse incarnations of God. then precise birth-time can be fixed. 360 tithis are equal to 354. and thereafter very accurate forecasts can be drawn from this software. It is nearly 1 / 9 of a nakshatra which is equal to 13˚:200 . Drik-pakshiya world is the phenomenal sensory world . Therefore. and use traditional almanacs or panchāngas. vomshottari period of Venus. known as lunisolar year. Instead. the timing of events in vimshottari system errs by many years.37 solar days. Saur-pakshiya world is the non-material world in which deities reside. Burgess. there is a difference of 3% between solar year and vimshottari year. which is manifest to human sense organs. Vimshottari system is based upon lunar nakshatra. yet the vimshottari timings based upon them prove to be far more accurate than those based upon materialist astronomy. If birth-time is approximately correct. ancient Surya-siddhāntic methods have been used in it.5 degrees less than that made according to modern astronomy. Due to these two errors. But this software is not based upon the faulty interpretation of Surya-siddhānta by E. In lunar year. It is the material world. Total annual and fortnightly (actually. but even today there are a large number of astrologers in India who refuse to accept computer softwares based upon modern astronomy. Now. and few very good or very bad events in the life of a person is known. highly precise software based upon traditional Surya-siddhāntic system is also in the market.

19% of Mahā-dashās and a much greater portion of antar-dashās are wrong. I have met persons who refuse to test Surya-siddhāntic software of Phalit Jyotisha named 'Kundalee'. sukshma and prāna dashās are almost always in the wrong. The proof of Suryasiddhānta is Phalit Jyotisha ( predictive astrology) based upon it. Left half in upper picture has a deficit of 18 years.modern era. who will prove to be a loser ? Now let us talk about the design of Vimshottari system. By rejecting the only accurate method of astrology. This arrangement is based upon planetary distances. including Sun. due to the venomous propaganda against Surya-siddhānta by materialists. it is wrong to use modern astronomy as a yardstick for testing the reliability of Suryasiddhānta. and it is interpreted materialistically by materialists. As a result. Now add up their duration of years as given in the vimshottari dashā system. Very few persons are trying to test the Surya-siddhāntic software. Ketu and Moon initially. Surya-siddhānta is not a text of materialist astronomy. Both halves should have 60 years each. when differences between mean planets of Surya-siddhānta show minimum divergence from those of materialist astronomy. Within a few centuries. astrologers take a recourse to other dashā systems. In 21000 years. Omit Rahu. In distant ages. calling Surya-siddhānta to be an outdated and useless work ! Even criminals get a chance to prove themselves. . Drik-pakshiya astronomy will lose its charm in astrology as vimshottari dashās will show intolerable errors. by comparison with planetary positions. Arrange the planets according to the plan as depicted in upper picture. Inner planets. the difference was greater. Drik-pakshiya astronomy gives errors of ± 5 years in timing of vimshottari dashās. In left half. numerology. palmistry. difference between Drik-pakshiya and Saur-pakshiya positions of planets increases by 180˚. As a result. but Suryasiddhānta is denied this chance in a materialist age. Outer planets are on the left side of the upper picture. which are not full planets. Pratyantar. etc for satisfying their clients. are in the right half of the upper picture. Even today. we get (Saturn 19) + (Jupiter 16) + (Mars 7) = 42 years and in right half we get (Mercury 17) + (Venus 20) + (Sun 6) = 43 years Total of all 9 planets is 120 lunar years in the vimshottari system.

which only Rahu can give. It is safe to put Rahu and Ketu away from Sun and Moon ..skyscript. Sanskrit : Paridhi )) from which English word "period" has been derived. Mercury. Trishtup and Jagati. As in the lower picture. Mercury . Saturn. Thus we get the lower picture of vimshottari dashā system. Moon. is same as that given in the Chāndogya Upanishada. when rounded off. For nocturnal charts. Mars. Rahu and Ketu must be placed opposite to each other. Rahu 3 and Ketu 2 years. we get the sequence Sun : Moon : Mars : Rahu : Jupiter : Saturn : Mercury : Ketu : Venus which is the sequence given in all ancient texts. Since distances from the Sun was the basis of this plan. In Vimshottari dashā system full lifespan of a human being is equal to 120 lunar years. for diurnal charts the period begins with the Sun. In Firdaria system.e.4 solar years which. which is equal to 116. by Sage Parāshara. Total lifespan of a human being is here said to be of 116 years. which are the number of syllables in three important Vedic metres Gayatri. Jupiter . Mercury 13. Venus 8 . Each one has a different time range : Sun 10 years. Venus. One question remains to be answered : what is the rationale behind the number of years assigned to different planets in the vimshottari dashā system ? Who will find a plausible answer to this intriguing question ? Non-Indian Variants of Vimshottari System Details about the mediaeval dashaa system Firdaria can be viewed at many websites . Rahu and Ketu. and Moon should be placed alongwith the Sun but not between Sun and any planet ( i. Ketu. Venus. esp. Jupiter 12. Mars. khanda 16 of Chāndogya Upanishada. and right half has a deficit of 17 years which only a combination of Ketu and Moon can supply. Rahu and Ketu are omitted. " If Moon.html . Mars 7.php "Firdaria" is etymologically related to same root (Greek : periodos . Venus).uk/gl/firdar. each planet having same Saturn. the period begins with the Moon. 44 and 48 years respectively. Moon 9. both diurnal and nocturnal sequences in . http://firdaria. vimshottari dashā system ought to start with Sun. Sun. there are 7 shlokas which describe three stages in the lifespan of a person. Saturn 11. In adhyāya 3. Jupiter. being of 24.such as : http://www.

Hence. Then. and nodes placed between Mars and Sun at the bottom.e. excepting the placing of Moon and its nodes. Moon placed between Saturn and Mercury at the top. If durations of planets are scrutinized. Thus. We get : Sun . Moon instead of the Sun. Firdaria Sysyem does not yield the symmetrical arrangement as found in the case of Vimshottari as shown above. Now. Mars : ( Diurnal ) : ( Nocturnal ) The nocturnal sequence is same as the diurnal. although Chaldeans knew it. one placed over the other inversely. you will get the . Saturn . Mercury . Saturn. Put two triangles within a circle. Mercury . This sequence is also wrongly ascribed to the Chaldeans. Venus :. Saturn . In Firdaria System. Moon . Rahu . Firdaria System is same as Indian Vimshottari. Moon . if seqience is reversed. Mercury . To put it otherwise. put Mars. Sun. Saturn . Mercury.Firdaria system are as follows : Sun. Saturn. Ketu .. only the starting poing is different. Venus. compare this reversed firdaria sequence with the circular design of Vimshottari shown in pictures above. Mars . Mars . Ketu . Mars. i. Moon and its nodes have been placed exactly at the juncture of both halves. Jupiter . Put Sun + Moon at the apex of first triangle. Jupiter. Jupiter. You will get the sequence of the weekdays. put the planets in weekday sequence around the circumference of a circle and read their names alternately. Venus :Vimshottari Sun . Venus Hence. Following is the Vimshottari sequence followed by reversed Firdaria Sysyem : Sun . Jupiter . Vimshottari seems to be an original system and Firdaria is a derived and consequently a later development. Jupiter . Firdaria System sprang from the same source which gave rise to Vimshottari. Mars . Rahu . Jupiter and Saturn at the vertices of second triangle in such a way that Mars of second triangle falls between SunMoon and Mercury of first triangle. Both Vimshottari and Firdaria systems are related to the planetary order Moon. known as the Chaldean Order in the West.Firdaria Now. reverse the sequence. Mercury. Venus. and then put Mercury and then Venus at other two vertices in a clockwise manner.

in 12th house)? The answer I found. I found that such planets cause excessive rainfall on account of being in moolatrikona. In individual horoscopes. similar situations. I have worked for many years in rain prediction. if a student takes appears in an examination during the dashā of such a planet. whether he/will get through or fail? Or will he hover at the passing point ? For instance. produce different problems. exalted) and bad (eg. What will be total amount of rainfall due to a planet which is good (eg. But if it is lord of 3rd and 6th houses at the same time. have no aspect and no relation with rain's kāraka). but cause destruction from rains and/or flooding due to their malefic nature. -VJ ======================================================== ======== Vimshottari Timings for Planets of Mixed Attributes Often a planet is both good and bad. if Jupiter is in moolatrikona in a particular horoscope . it is highly malefic as well. But places pierced (viddha) by malefic planets in Sarvatobhadra chakra in that region will be badly hit by excessive or scanty rainfall depending upon magnitude of aspect. and there I had faced tricky questions. it is highly auspicious on account of that. How we should decide when we get which result during the dashās of such a planet of mixed attributes ? For instance. Jupiter as lord of 3rd and 6th houses is malefic. In rainfall analysis. It is wrong to assume that these opposite attributes cancel each other. however.sequence of planets according to distances. but if it is situated in . how to decide when we get which result? Often a planet possesses both good and bad attributes. from analysis of past data of 136 years procured from IITM (Pune) is that net result will be nearly ±5% of normal rainfall. Many persons are confused about malefic and benefic planets. if other planets do not influence that particular region (ie. and places pierced by benefics will be blessed with rains conducive to good harvest.

although Saturn was lord of 4th and 5th houses and was therefore auspicious for that native. It is a general principle. Net result becomes more complex when influences of other planets are also considered. planets causing MD and AD) are nearly equal upon the bhāva we are analyzing. But during Saturn's MD and Jupiter's AD. For instance. If any one of them has very strong influence in comparison to the other planet over that particular bhāva. This principle works down to prāndashā level. which works only when aspects of both planets (eg. a native topped school board exams during Jupiter's MD and Jupiter's AD (pratyantara and sukshma were of auspicious planets too). It was the worst period in the life of that native. and bad results during ADs of enmical planets. being an auspicious planet (kendresh plus trikonesh) gave its good results through its yuti relative jupiter. But the same native failed to get through the examinations just two years later during AD of Saturn. For instance. . The cause was mutual enmity and conjunction (yuti) relation between Jupiter and Saturn. and failed in examinations. one will get good results during AD (antardashā) of Jupiter's own AD or ADs of friendly relatives. which we must do. Now a question arises : when such a planet will give its good results. It was the best period in the life of same native and he excelled in whatever he attempted ! Thus. because Saturn. Jupiter gave its good results during its own AD . For instance. benefic results of both Jupiter and Saturn lied dormant. depression and bad relations with everyone. a person will not become long during MD of Saturn and dwarf during MD of Mercury.mooltrikona. but during Saturn's AD mainly the malefic results of Jupiter were manifest. the stronger planet will break the above rule and give its own good or bad fruits in proportion of its strength. He could not leave his house for a long period due to illness. and when its malefic fruits will be reaped ? Rule-I : The answer is simple : during MD (mahādashā) of Jupiter. it is benefic as well. if such a mixed Jupiter is kāraka of sukshma-dashā. because many influences are effective for whole life irrespective of dashā. it will give give good results during prāna-dashā of its friends and bad results during prāna-dashā of its enemies. things were good for the same native. Jupiter's MD gave both best and worst results in the life of a single native. and suppressed the bad effects of malefic Jupiter due to mutual enmity.

Solar year is slightly over 365 days. Hence. etc.57 years. or a student's result is washed away by floods in the board office. Such cases are rare when a patients neither lives nor dies. one on account of Drikpakshiya Moon and another on account of wrong duration of 'year' used. but will err by one year after 32. Unfortunately. but only when we follow the siddhānta (mathematics) of ancient sages.. few astrologers use this correct year for Vimshottari computations. by two years after 65 years. Suppose we are in a situation in which we an answer in binary language or yes or no. This is Vimshottari's year. Eg. ============================================= I said above "Both of above laws work always work perfectly. an exalted planet in 12th mansion must be counted as a normal planet. taking into account benefic and malefic properties of each of them. If true moon is acurately computed. there is a 3. Only general outlines are presented here. Canonical texts strictly define Vimshottari's year to be of 360 days. Vimshottari is made from lunar asterism (nakshatra). we have to evaluate the net auspiciousness or inauspiciousness of all the five kāraka planets of five levels of Vimshottari. Vimshottari timing at birth will be correct. Lunar year is of 360 lunar days (tithis). As a result. 8% of mahādashā timings and 70% of antar-dashā timings will be wrong ! Very few persons will have accurate pratyantaras in their Vimshottari tables ! If birthtime true moon is also wrong. During such an evaluation." Prevalent methods of computing Vimshottari dashās contain two major sources of error in timing. and so on. but only when we follow the siddhānta (mathematics) of ancient sages. and relapses in a coma. and few people take . In such situations.Rule-II : Now let us consider another problem. Both of above laws work always work perfectly. Mixed answers will not do under such circumstances. whether one will pass or fail in an examination. Long practice coupled with intuition developed by means of inner purity helps in this evaluation. Solar year must not be used for Vimshottari. there will be greater error ! Among all the Vedic softwares I have hitherto seen.07% error in the length of Vimshottari year. live or die during a critical surgery. only two softwares give the option of selecting lunar year in computing Vimshottari. As a result. Hence its year is lunar.

Dr Kāmeshwar Upādhyāya. but fears that majority of astrologers will become his opponent due to professional reasons. Magnitude of this error is different for different persons. But there is another. but did not know the reason. hence keeps quiet but uses lunar year in his own computations. I have dared to write on this blasphemous topic in an age of materialism.advantage of these options ! New theories of predictive astrology (Phalit Jyotisha) are being invented to account for the mismatch in predictions and reality. All known methods in Vedic Astrology can be divided into two categories. all planets will show same error of 6 months throughout the life of that native. former editor of Vishwa Panchānga published by BHU (Benaras Hindu University). Same is the case with some other reputed astrologers. more serious. told me many years ago that all planets start giving results many months before their real Vimshottari timing begins. Hence. sometimes running into years ! How long this wrong Vimshottari year will prevail is a matter of our collective choice. Test of the pudding lies in tasting it. For instance. which can be remedied by using Saurpakshiya correctives according to ancient techniques. problem : use of Drikpakshiya Moon in Vedic Astrology. provided we keep true to their Ganita. which results in considerable error in Vimshottari reckoning. in which material objects of sky are believed to be deities. he was using solar year for Vimshottari reckoning. and deities cannot be perceived sensorily. Let me see what is the reaction ! -VJ ======================================================== ============== The Secret Magic of Vimshottari It is a universally accepted fact that any faultless astrological technique of exact timing of events either does not exist or lies hidden. instead of trying the ancient method of sages. according to all ancient authorities. it will be easy to recognize that there is an error of 6 months. Now he is convinced that lunar year should be used for Vimshottari reckoning. although philistine astrologers (nakshatrasoochakas) may declare themselves to be omniscient. as . Some practising astrologers knew this mismatch in timing. But the magnitude of this error remains constant throughout the life of a native. Grahas of Vedic Jyotisha are deities. He is one of the most busy practising astrologers of Varanasi and has analysed a remendous number of horoscopes made with the help of all sorts of methods. At that time. if a planet starts giving its results 6 months before its computed time according to lunar year. Predictive (Phalita) astrology of Vedic sages is an exact science.

because that is the accepted meaning of Vedic Astrology or Jyotisha. Both these categories have numerous variants. On 18 Oct 2005. foolproof timing of events will remain a distant dream. Major problem in the first camp is astrologically correct value of ayanāmsha.far as mathematics is concerned : (1) those dependent upon modern physical astronomy and (2) those relying on traditional methods. but due to Western hegemony and faith in modern science this ancient system was never tried by any software developer. without any conclusive outcome in the favour of any single value of ayanāmsha. Most of the computer using astrologers might not have heard these esoteric terms. Kamlakara Bhatta was the most staunch proponent of this Saurpakshiya mathematics during recent centuries. an unanimous decision was taken by academic stalwarts from six states of India that all panchangas of India ought to be made according to Suryasidhanta and a committee headed by me (Vinay Jha) was formed to implement this unanimous decision. Some software developers. without any conclusive result. As far as the first school based on physical astronomy is concerned. there must be other unrecognized errors which must be removed if we want any exact technique in timing of events. have experimented with various types of Vimshottari years. all possible values of ayanāmsha have been experimented with during past one hundred years. and Ketaki system had revived these concepts during 20th century. either both of them or at least one of them must be incorrect. and main problem in second camp is computational crudities of various types. These are ancient concepts. whose parties were Dr Nagendra Pandey . It proves that even after we get some perfect solution to the problem of ayanāmsha. One such source of error is erroneous length of the Vimshottari year. There cannot be mutually incompatible two correct techniques of timing. Many reputed scholars of Sanskrit universities on India have concluded that unless this beejsamskrita (offset corrected) method of Suryasidhanta is adopted. whiich are fundamental in the curriculum of Vedic Jyotisha taught in Sanskrit universities of India. We assume that both these camps take for granted that in mathematics sidereal (nirayana) system is correct and in predictive astrology (phalita jyotisha) Brihat-Parāshara-Horā-Shāstra (BPHS) and ancient texts based on or akin to BPHS are to be relied upon. because a third source of error was never noticed by any practitioner of Vedic Astrology among the computer using guys : hidden Saurpakshiya offsets in Drikpakshiya longitudes of planets. after two days of discussions in a conference held at Sampoornanand Sanskrit University in Varanasi. like Sri Jyoti Star in the USA and Kundalee in India.

Hyderabad .mysticboard.(currently HOD of Jyotisha at Sampoornanand Sanskrit University in Varanasi). Mathematical discussion of this tricky affair is not advisable here. Birthtime bhāvachalita (D1) and navamāmsha (D9) kundalis and associated aspect charts are given in following two pictures. http://www. Dr Shukdeva Chaturvedi (former HOD of Lalbahadur Shastri Kendriya Vidyapeetha in Delhi). etc.php? t=58583&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0) according to BPHS and Laghuparashari. a sound predictive astrology is just impossible. The beauty and greatness of BPHS cannot be properly fathomed unless we use the Ganita (Surya Siddhanta) of those very ancient masters who created Phalita. My aim here is merely to illustrate. strengths. Hence. etc of planets. Some rules must be observed before we proceed. 80:02 E) Marriage time : 10:08:2006 at 11:04. There were 18 ancient Siddhāntas. Let us explore the timing of marriage of a registered user (cf. Without a sound Siddhānta. This unanimous decision was implemented and eight panchangas were started in many states of India and a horoscope making Kundalee software was also launched. Many astrologers use Rāshi kundali for predictons because it saves time. and this habit has now become almost a rule ! Ascendant is defined as a point in ecliptic. Birthtime : 17:07:1983 at 19:34. All the rules and echniques used below are well known to all Vedic astrologers. Nellore (14:27 N. Following analysis is based on a software (Kundalee) in which all necessary corrections proposed by aforementioned academics have been taken into account. with some Varanasi). but these rules work with perfection only if all the three mathematical offsets are taken into account. ascendant and consequent bhāvas are all parts of this solar ellipse. Now we come to our main theme. Predictive work should be entirely based upon the Bhāva-chalita kundali. this traditional method of Vedic Ganita (mathematics). of which Surya Siddhanta was lauded as the best by Varah Mihir. aspects. based on the same beejsamskrita Suryasidhantic mathematics. Rāshi kundali is circular and therefore all 12 parts are equal. Dr Radhakanta Mishra (currently HOD of Jyotisha at KSD Sanskrit University in Bihar). But bhāvachalita kundali is elliptical because its 12 bhāvas are unequal. which was simply known as Siddhanta (theory) by all ancient astrologers of India. Dr Ramchandra Pandey (former HOD of Jyotisha of Benaras Hindu University. debilities. The latter is elliptical. Rāshi chart should be used only for determining friendships.

but Saturn has a yuti relation with lord of the 7th house Moon. 60) on 7th house : Jup = 51 . Moon = 10 . others = 0. Ketu = 39 . marriage took place in Jupiter's MD. Ketu has Yuti relation with Jupiter.Saurpakshiya Vimshottari at the time of marriage : MahaDasha(MD) = Jup.SD = Ven. yuti relation with Jupiter is not imparting enough weightage to Ketu in its contention with Saturn as a force to reckon with as . Sat = 38 . Hence.PrD = Merc Let us consider birthtime Bhava-chalita (D1) and Navamasha(D9) charts. Jupiter's being lord of 3rd and 12th houses and being merely samagrihi in 11th house is far weaker than exalted Saturn in 9th house with lord of 7th Moon. PD = Rahu. But Ketu and Saturn have nearly equal aspect on 7th. AD = Sat. Rahu = 6 . Following is the aspects (max. Due to more aspect on 7th house than any other planet. Merury resides in 7th house. Firstly.

In the chart of husband of this native. Rahu emerges as the most powerful contender for factor behind pratyantara dashā when we consider the combined effect of bhāvachalita and D9. It forced Ketu out of the race. D1 is bhāvachalita and not Rāshi-chart. Jupiter is friendly to both Ketu and Saturn in bhāvachalita. In bhāvachalita. because all other planets are totally ineffectve. Jāyākāraka Venus is lord of 8th house. measure of error in determination of time of events will gradually reduce. Such problems should be solved by means of comparison of both types of softwares. Secondly. exalted Saturn has yuti relation with Mercury and Rahu. and made Saturn factor of AD. the latter being further weakened by being placed in 12th house. and therefore its property of Jāyākāraka was not totally destroyed on account of residing in 8th and lacking aspect on 7th. in spite of their weaknesses. In D9. hence it was powerless. its Grahas are incarnations of gods. Among the remaining. and is therefore not totally combust.regards 7th house. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------This topic is growing too big. Mercury is 10°:34':35'' degrees away from Sun (after applying Saurpakshiya offset in longitudes according to ancient canons). but in D9 Jupiter is friendly to Saturn but enmical (tātkālika) to Ketu. Moon in spite of being lord of 7th house had only 10' aspect and in D9 was debilitated in D9. It is not possible to wipe out Suryasiddhanta in spite of centuries of propaganda against it by Semitic invaders and their intellectual offsprings. popular ones. Careful comparison of all planets in D1and D9 with regard to their influences on 7th house should be made by readers to determine the five planets needed for Vimshottari timing. Mercury is combust (asta) with debilitated Sun. BPHS . we find Jāyākāraka Venus as factor of SD and Mercury sitting in 7th as factor of Prāndashā. Suryasiddhanta is not a text of physical astronomy. Since Mercury is combust in bhāvachalita. resides in 6th and has no aspect on 7th. all other planets are totally ineffective in this regard. If such precautions are taken. because BPHS explicitly uses the word Lagna for D1. and Suryasiddhāntic. Venus is also not too bad. hence it went out of the race. and ancient mathematical canon (Suryasiddhānta) defines Lagna as in terms of elliptical ecliptic and not in terms of circular bha-vritta. two planets are so powerful for the 7th house that they were repeated in Vimshottari sequence Ineffectiveness of other planets also contributed to this. Hence it had no effect on marriage.

some people start crying wolf about obscurantism. Test of the pudding lies in tasting it. and its importance has reduced due to three factors already pointed out by me : wrong ayanamsha. When this offset was considerable. 2000 AD was the year of minimum amount of offset in longitudes between Drikpakshiya (physical) and Saurpakshiya (Suryasiddhāntic) planets. Its criterion of truth is not heavenly position of material objects perceived by sense organs. and is a part of religion rather than of material science. their forces must be material forces. -VJ . But how can we compare the gigantic material forces of Sun and Jupiter with Mercury ? And what is the material force of Rahu or Ketu ? Injecting materialism in astrology is destroying it. Reading such arguments. wrong length of Vimshottari year. Physical planets have no power to control destinies of men and nations. and will reach the value of 180° in 23000 AD. but the reliability of Phalita (predictive branch of astrology). being Vedanga. Jyotisha. not by merely discussing it ! Kundalee software is free for all. There are other techniques in Vedic Astrology. But they forget that all great scientists like Newton. and they cannot be propitiated either. Neils Bohr. and wrong or no longitudinal offsets in planetary positions. The purpose of this topic is not to assert that Vimshottari is enough for timing of events. Einstein and Schröedinger were believers in God. But Vimshottari is by far the most important of all. is a part of Veda. Astrological Grahas are deities who control lives of creatures. Observatories are things of Kaliyuga. this offset has begun to increase. Now.also holds same views. the last of them being a staunch supporter of Vedanta who got a Nobel Prize by proving through his Wave Mechanics that material things are mere perceptions and nothing exists in the universe excepting Waves (of Consciousness?) : this is what Badarayana and Shankaracharya taught! My chief concern here is to bring to notice some little known aspects of Vimshottari and of the mathematical aspects of astrology. no one talked of material objects. If material planets are accepted to be factors in astrology.