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VCDL UPDATE 08/20/07 - Defending your right to defend yourself Thought for the week: When you call 911, you summon a man with a gun to use force on your behalf. The fact that you don't personally own the weapon in question doesn't make you morally superior. On the contrary, it makes you a hypocrite of the first order. You absolve yourself from having to use force by shifting that responsibility to another person, and then you congratulate yourself on your civilized attitude. --Marko munchkinwrangler.blogspot.com [http://tinyurl.com/28cb5g] 1. Bill O'Reilly calls for resignation of VT president over rap concert 2. VCDL meeting at Norfolk County Rifle Range on 8/22 3. VCDL meeting in Richmond on 8/30 4. VCDL speaking at Norfolk City Council on 8/28 **We need a good turnout** 5. Daily Press article on GMU Students for Concealed Carry (GMU-SCC) 6. Cato Institute plugs GMU-SCC in 'Daily Dispatch' 7. Watch Andrew Dysart take on the media, the Brady Bunch, and more! 8. NBC affiliate in Charlottesville reports on campus carry debate 9. ABC News: Do weapons increase safety or threaten students? 10. Former G-Man: Would students be safer if they carried guns? 11. When it comes to guns, The News Leader prefers to 'keep it local' 12. Chronicle responds to LTE, praises Eddie Eagle program 13. American Handgunner: How could VT murders NOT have happened? 14. JMU weapons policy Q&A 15. Sen. Warner, citing his grandfatherhood, supports Brady expansion 16. Anti-gun judge gives Bloomberg green light to sue GA gun shops 17. RTD: Only good gun shop is a closed gun shop

18. Gun Talk broadcast on XM radio 19. Gun shop manager charged with selling guns on the street 20. Rookie SF cop accidentally kills self 21. Washington Times OP-ED on bearing arms 22. CT paper admits 'gun nuts' right, but author still contradictory 23. Daily Press reports on bank robber, formerly one of their own 24. LTE on guns in national parks in UT paper 25. Parker v. DC now known as DC v. Heller for appeals process 26. Steep decline in firearms dealers across the U.S. 27. August 28 is National Exercise Your Rights Day! Buy something! 28. VCDL & OpenCarry.org team up for Gun Rights Policy Conference 29. Who needs a gun at home? 30. Who needs a gun in a church? 31. Police chief corrects record in Missouri church shooting 32. Clarification on Goochland zoning ordinance 33. Williamsburg City Council video shows importance of preemption 34. Crunching the numbers on permit holders 35. Armed citizen aids Texas officers in shootout 36. Concealed carry permit reciprocity bill introduced (again) to fix 'loopholes' 37. Cartoon: The right to own a bazooka 38. Frito Lay profiles anti-gun group on Doritos packaging 39. VCDL picnic on 9/15 40. Gun shows and events! VCDL PICNIC IN SEPTEMBER! ************************************************** 1. Bill O'Reilly calls for resignation of VT president over rap concert ************************************************** While Virginia Tech is busy keeping its law-abiding adult students and employees unarmed because of an irrational fear that permit holders can't be trusted to have a gun on campus, VT President Charles Steger is welcoming a rapper who endorses violence and murder to perform at a VT concert!!! So, violent rap that glorifies the criminal misuse of guns is GOOD, but self-defense (and using guns morally and justifiably) is BAD? It is clear that Mr. Steger is inept and VCDL calls for his resignation, as well as the resignation of the VT spokesman, Larry Hincker. It's time for a regime change at Virginia Tech. The dangerous policies of VT when it comes to students self-defense are themselves indefensible.

Bill O'Reilly's "Talking Points Memo" is also calling for Charles Steger to resign -- or be fired. (See transcript below.) http://tinyurl.com/2govve "Insulting the Virginia Tech Victims" Thursday, August 16, 2007 By Bill O'Reilly When students return to Virginia Tech in early September, there will be a concert starring the Dave Matthews Band. On the program is a gangster rapper named Nas, a man who makes recordings that are as violent as they come. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) NAS: Shoot 'em up. Just shoot 'em up. Kill, kill, kill, murder, murder, murder. Shoot 'em up! Just shoot 'em up! What? Kill! Kill! Kill! Murder, murder, murder. Got yourself a gun. Yo I'm livin' in this time behind enemy lines. So I got mine. I hope you got yourself a gun! Start cockin' up my weapon, slowly loading up this ammo. Bust a shell at the ground. Pellets hit the ground. Nobody like a snitch. Everybody shut they mouth. Woolrich, Carhart, gun powder stains. (END VIDEO CLIP) So let us put this into perspective. After 32 human beings are murdered at Virginia Tech, a concert welcoming students back features a guy who traffics in violent lyrics. How disturbing is this? The ***villain*** here -- VT president ***Dr. Charles Steger***, who knows Nas is inappropriate, but is too cowardly to do anything about it. We called Dr. Steger, but he would not explain this atrocity and said his communications guy Christopher Clough told us, "I saw the FOX report by Douglas Kennedy and it was crap. I don't expect any better from Bill O'Reilly." Fine, but here's the kicker. VT's student newspaper editorialized against Nas performing. Usually, the students rally behind a pop figure. Not in this case. The paper says, "It is hard to imagine that our school officials not foreseeing this problem when they agreed to let a rapper known for

violent lyrics perform. Songs that glorify murder do not belong at a concert for the friends and families of murder victims." That student editorial is dead on. So why is Dr. Steger embarrassing his own university? Well, he's got a history of lacking in courage. He allowed Marcus Vick, the brother of Michael Vick, to continue to play football despite numerous criminal activities. His administration was widely criticized for not alerting students to the early violence last April. And of course, more people were killed because they were not warned [or allowed to defend themselves -O'Reilly doesn't mention the 'No weapons policy' - EM Hal Macklin]. With this latest court decision, it is clear Dr. Steger ***has to go***. If one of my children had been killed at VT, I could not forgive Steger for this latest abomination. Now if you would like to let Virginia Tech know how you feel about this, Steger's e-mail and phone number is posted on BillOreilly.com. As always, please keep your comments respectful. http://tinyurl.com/3d5cyk Finally, the governor of Virginia, Timothy Kaine, needs to step up here. You may remember that Kaine sat out the Virginia Beach controversy over a criminal illegal alien killing two teenagers, but enough's enough, governor. Having a rapper who trades in violence performing at Virginia Tech insults the victims, the university, and the entire Commonwealth. There is no excuse for this. And that's "the Memo." ************************************************** 2. VCDL meeting at Norfolk County Rifle Range on 8/22 ************************************************** EM Ron Hyson has made arrangements at Primo's Pizza following the VCDL membership meeting at the Norfolk County Rifle Range (NCRR) THIS Wednesday, 8/22/07. The meeting will start at 7:00 PM and will run until 8:30 PM, at which time those that would like continued fellowship will head to Primo's. You do not need to be a VCDL member to attend the meeting or Primo's, so bring your friends and family! NCRR is located at: 4321 S. Military Hwy Chesapeake, VA 23321

Ron has created MapQuest links (below) NCRR to Primo's (Ron will have copies of the directions to hand out at the meeting) and also from Primo's to I-64 into Hampton. Directions from Norfolk County Rifle Range to Primo Pizza: http://tinyurl.com/yqp96j Additional directions: When driving towards Suffolk on Military Highway, the restaurant is just over a hill (going over the railroad tracks). You will go past the road on the right and just after the mailbox is a hard right turn going down into the restaurant. When going the opposite direction from the Uppys gas station and hotel, you turn left PRIOR to the road just before the hill. Directions from Primo's Pizza to Hampton, Va.: http://tinyurl.com/2egjob ************************************************** 3. VCDL meeting in Richmond on 8/30 ************************************************** VCDL is having a membership meeting in the Henrico/Richmond area on Thursday, August 30th, from 7 to 8:30 PM at the Tuckahoe Library. The address is: Tuckahoe Area Library 1901 Starling Drive Richmond VA 23229 Ph: (804) 270-9578 After the meeting we will adjourn to a local restaurant for continued fellowship. ************************************************** 4. VCDL speaking at Norfolk City Council on 8/28 **We need a good turnout** ************************************************** In a little over a week, VCDL will be addressing the Norfolk City Council over recent harassment of gun owners by the Norfolk Police Department. TWO gun owners were each harassed TWICE. One was told that the needless handcuffing and harassment would continue each time the police saw him open carrying!

Worse, one member, Chet Szymecki, who was attending a festival, was actually arrested and charged under a newly passed, and totally illegal ordinance. Chet's wife was told she would be arrested if she attempted to film the arrest of her husband. She, along with 5 young children, were escorted off the public property where the festival was being held and left alone on a corner in downtown Norfolk, with no car keys or way to get in touch with her husband. This cannot be tolerated and VCDL needs a huge turnout to get the message across! The meeting starts at 7 PM and is located at: Norfolk City Hall 810 Union Street Norfolk, VA 23510 Carry is legal in City Hall. EM Dave Vann is eating at a local restaurant before the meeting (reservations are at 5 PM). If you are interested in joining Dave, me, and other VCDL members, contact Dave no later than Wednesday of THIS WEEK so he can get a head count and reserve the appropriate seating arrangements. Dave's email is: vanshd@att.net The restaurant is: Freemason Abbey 209 W. Freemason St. Norfolk, VA If you decide to carry, the restaurant does serve alcohol, so open carry is required by state law. ************************************************** 5. Daily Press article on GMU Students for Concealed Carry (GMU-SCC) ************************************************** GMU-SCC founder Andrew Dysart writes: --

This article contains a few small inaccuracies: 1. I am a junior, not a senior. 2. GMU-SCC is not an official chapter of any other national group. 3. Our main goal is to convince GMU to change their policy. Asking Richmond for a law change would be secondary. I was impressed that the article noted that VA colleges cannot prevent the public from carrying on campus. http://tinyurl.com/2eotgh dailypress.com Va. Tech killings underscore guns-on-campus campaign By ZINIE CHEN SAMPSON Associated Press Writer August 12, 2007 RICHMOND, Va. Some college students are pushing for their schools to allow them to carry guns on campus, saying that they should have the right to protect themselves in the event of a shooting like the one that left 33 people dead at Virginia Tech. Andrew Dysart, a George Mason University senior, has organized a chapter of Students for Concealed Carry on Campus, which hopes to convince legislators to overturn a Virginia law that allows universities to prohibit students, faculty and staff members with gun permits from carrying their weapons on campus. "There's no way to know what could have happened, but the students at Tech, they really should have had a chance," Dysart said of the April 16 shootings, in which gunman Seung-Hui Cho killed 32 people and then committed suicide. "They should have had the chance to defend themselves if it came down to that." Virginia law allows schools to decide whether to allow students with concealed-weapons permits to carry their guns on campus. One state school, Blue Ridge Community College, does so. Schools cannot prohibit non-students or other outsiders from carrying weapons onto campuses if they have legal permits. "In a sense (students) don't have the same rights to self-defense on

campus as the general public," said Dysart, who said his four years as a Marine shaped his ideas about self-defense. "It's really lopsided the way it works." Gov. Timothy M. Kaine has said that individual colleges and universities should be able to decide whether to allow students to carry guns on school grounds. He also said that he would wait to see whether a panel studying the Virginia Tech shootings makes any recommendations on the issue. Nationwide, 38 states ban weapons at schools, and 16 of those specifically ban guns on college campuses, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. Other states allow schools to adopt their own gun policies. Utah is the only state that specifically allows people to carry concealed weapons at public colleges. Legislation passed in 2004 allows concealed weapons on all state property, including colleges and universities. The University of Utah--which had banned concealed weapons for decades--challenged the law, but the state Supreme Court upheld it in 2006. South Carolina's legislature this year defeated a bill that would allow permit holders to carry guns onto public school campuses. Students for Concealed Carry on Campus members at more than 60 colleges are aiming to change their state laws to allow permit holders to carry on campus. Joe Culotta, a senior at the University of Central Florida, said that he and fellow students had planned to form a group to advocate for concealed carry even before the Virginia Tech shootings. The Knights Rifle Association is seeking recognition as an official student organization this fall, and plans to circulate a petition to send to Florida's governor about the issue, Culotta said. Many colleges generally oppose, for safety reasons, allowing concealed-carry permit holders to bring guns on campus and have resisted efforts to change the law. In the Virginia General Assembly, a bill to require schools to allow permit holders to carry concealed handguns was killed in subcommittee this year, said bill sponsor Del. Mark L. Cole, R-Spotsylvania. Cole said he'll wait until the Virginia Tech study panel issues its findings before deciding whether to reintroduce such a measure.

"Obviously the current policy is ineffective; it certainly didn't protect anyone at Virginia Tech," Cole said. The International Association of Campus Law Enforcement Administrators, which represents campus public safety officials, said the presence of students carrying concealed weapons "has the potential to dramatically increase violence on our college and university campuses." Allowing concealed weapons brings the potential for accidental gun discharge or misuse of firearms at parties, including those where alcohol or drugs are used, and the possibility for guns to be used to settle students' disputes, the group said in a statement. For their part, Virginia Tech officials haven't actively lobbied against attempts to modify Virginia's law, spokesman Larry Hincker said, but the university's position on weapons hasn't changed after the shootings. "We don't believe that guns have any place in the classroom," Hincker said. "We've experienced far more of guns in the classroom than any university should have to endure." On the Net: http://www.concealedcampus.org/ ************************************************** 6. Cato Institute plugs GMU-SCC in 'Daily Dispatch' ************************************************** Note: Robert Levy, also quoted and linked to in the blurb below, is one of the lawyers who represented Parker in Parker v. DC http://tinyurl.com/38fu6o Students Push for Guns on Campus "College students are pushing for their schools to allow them to carry guns on campus, saying they should have the right to protect themselves in a situation like the one in which 32 Virginia Tech students and faculty were fatally shot," reports the Associated Press [http://tinyurl.com/2frmpb]. "Andrew Dysart, a George Mason University senior, organized a chapter of Students for Concealed Carry on Campus, which hopes to persuade legislators to overturn a Virginia law that allows universities to prohibit students, faculty and staff members with gun permits from carrying their weapons onto

campus. ... Virginia law lets schools decide whether to allow students with concealed-weapons permits to carry their guns on campus. One state school, Blue Ridge Community College, gave permission. Schools cannot prohibit nonstudents or other outsiders from carrying weapons onto campuses if they have legal permits." In "They Never Learn [http://tinyurl.com/2h3po5] ," Cato senior fellow in constitutional studies Robert Levy writes: "Anti-gun advocates, however noble their motives, help create the environment in which horrors like Virginia Tech occur. Possession and use of guns on the Tech campus violated state-imposed restrictions. But crazed fanatics, undeterred by laws against murder, will not be dissuaded by laws against guns. More such laws will accomplish nothing. Indeed, liberalized laws might have enabled responsible, armed citizens on campus to defend the hapless victims. It took two hours for the killer methodically to massacre 32 people and injure another 15. Why did nobody intervene sooner to stop the killer?" ************************************************** 7. Watch Andrew Dysart take on the media, the Brady Bunch, and more! ************************************************** CNN Headline News video here: http://tinyurl.com/2ysaqj MSNBC video with Helmke here: http://tinyurl.com/22ogmk Various interviews on VA Gun Info: http://tinyurl.com/255ojv ************************************************** 8. NBC affiliate in Charlottesville reports on campus carry debate ************************************************** http://tinyurl.com/34ew7q Should Guns be Allowed on Campus? Reported by Matt Talhelm August 14, 2007 Virginia colleges and universities can prevent teachers, staff and students from carrying guns on campus even when it's legal for them to do it just off campus. Now, some of those people with concealed carry permits are working to get the right to carry on campus.

Students at George Mason University are pushing their school to allow them to carry concealed guns on campus. There's only one public college in the state where students can do that -- Blue Ridge Community College. As a student at Blue Ridge Community College, former police officer David Briggman carried his handgun from the firing range to class one night. While he could do it at BRCC, it's not allowed at a lot of Virginia schools. "It's in our student behavior book that no guns are permitted on campus except to the extent permitted by law," explained BRCC's vice president John Downey. There's no law banning people with concealed weapons permits from carrying their guns on public college campuses. Statewide, schools set their own safety policies for students with weapons. That policy has some students questioning the balance between their rights and their safety. BRCC student Ryan Noley said, "I would think they'd be doing everything in their power to prevent having weapons in an atmosphere with so many people in one place." "It's a scary thought, especially what happened at Tech. I think we need to make more strict rules," stated fellow student Sarah Bowman. BRCC continues to update its campus safety policies following the Tech shootings, but the school says it's up to state lawmakers to review what's on the books when it comes to students and guns. Downey shared, "I think it will be revisited at every college across the state." BRCC says colleges across the Commonwealth need more guidance from the state on this issue, especially from legislation so there's an across-the-board policy on campus concealed carry. ************************************************** 9. ABC News: Do weapons increase safety or threaten students? ************************************************** http://tinyurl.com/2cbnhl

Do Weapons Increase Safety or Threaten Students? Campus Gun Laws Decided by States and Schools By MICHAEL SKOCAY Aug. 15, 2007 -If a college student is allowed to bring a handgun to class, will it increase the risk of violence toward other students or provide the student with a necessary measure of self-defense? The issue of gun control has long been a subject of national debate, but in the months following the mass shooting at Virginia Tech, discussion has centered on college campuses. On April 16, 2007, Virginia Tech student Seung-Hui Cho used two handguns to shoot and kill 32 members of his college community in what stands as the largest mass shooting in American history. "The university was struck today with a tragedy of monumental proportions. There were two shootings on campus. In each case, there were fatalities," said Virginia Tech President Charles W. Steger, who spoke candidly on the shooting later that same day. Questions about Cho's mental health, the weapons he purchased, his motives and security at the university became controversial issues after the tragedy. Now, as students return for the fall semester at Virginia Tech, the questions of gun rights remain largely unresolved - both at a school, where gun violence is a recent memory, and on the national scene. A National Question Gun control at schools and universities is legislated on a state level, and there is no federal legal standard. Currently, 38 states have banned weapons on school grounds, with 16 states extending that ban to college campuses. Even so, individual universities are often allowed to create their own campus security rules. At the extreme end of the gun rights spectrum sit many rural states. With vast stretches of land open for hunting and farming, along with a sparse police presence, Montana is known for its liberal gun control policy. It is a state where close to 90 percent of households contain firearms, according to a Montana Shooting Sports Association estimate.

This is, in part, due to a state law that allows Montana residents to openly carry firearms without a permit, and to also carry concealed weapons with the legal permission of a county sheriff. Montana's liberal policies also stretch onto its college campuses. At Montana State University, many students check their rifles and ammunition at the front desk of their residence halls. A recently proposed ban of concealed weapons on the MSU campus prompted a heated response from students. "The idea that they're instituting the exact same policy as Virginia Tech is ludicrous. People who use guns for ill aren't going to follow university policy," said Dan Bothwell, a premed student at the university. Another western state, Utah, allows students over 21 to carry concealed weapons at public universities, drawing on a 2004 law that permits concealed weapons on state property. That law was challenged by the University of Utah in a case that reached the state Supreme Court, but failed to overturn the legislation. Helping or Hurting? Students for Concealed Carry on Campus is a nonpartisan grass-roots group that supports gun rights on university campuses. In a written statement on the group's Web site, Chris Brown, the founder, and a senior at the University of North Texas, explained the group's stance. "As a college student, and a concealed handgun license holder, when I step onto campus, I am left unable to defend myself. My state allows me to carry a handgun in public, but there is some imaginary line drawn around college campuses for silly reasons. And those silly reasons are getting people killed, raped and robbed." Jon Vernick, co-director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research in Baltimore, said the contention that more guns make a campus safer is simply wrong. "Rather than arming students, we should instead focus on making it harder for criminals and other dangerous persons to gain access to firearms in the first place," Vernick explained in an e-mail to ABC News. [AND if those efforts fail and a student is facing death at the hands of a murderer - then what Mr. Vernick? - PVC]

"We have approximately 30,000 firearm-related deaths in the United States each year - about 80 per day," said Vernick, "more than two Virginia Techs happening every day." While those on either side of the issue cite evidence supporting their claims, conclusive data on right-to-carry laws and concealed weapons is scant. "Research devoted to understanding the defensive and deterrent effects of guns has resulted in mixed and sometimes widely divergent findings," concluded a 2004 report on firearms and safety, produced by the National Research Council. [So rather than letting students defend themselves (since the alternative didn't work), we should just throw our hands up in the air because some study couldn't conclude that guns prevent/deter crime? - PVC] Returning to Virginia Tech Fall semester classes begin on Aug. 20 at Virginia Tech. An initial report on last April's shooting incident, commissioned by Virginia Gov. Timothy M. Kaine, is expected to be released during the first week of classes at the college. A second independent panel, that includes former Homeland Security director Tom Ridge, is expected to release its findings on the shooting in the coming months. In Virginia, the law states that universities can prohibit students and faculty from carrying weapons onto campus, even if those students have state permits to carry concealed handguns. [WRONG. Virginia law does NOT state that. The universities are doing that on their own by threatening students with expulsion and faculty with firing. There is no other penalty. It's NOT a criminal offense. The public at large is not affected by the prohibition, only students and faculty. - PVC] Following the shooting in April, Virginia Tech approved a violence prevention policy, reaffirming its ban on students and employees bringing guns on campus. [Since the VT murderer violated the VT gun ban policy (along with numerous other state laws), VT is going to reaffirm their policy so that anyone with criminal intent will know that they have a defenseless victim-rich zone. - PVC] Not all Virginia Tech students agree with the university's ban on weapons and, for some students, the April shooting was a sign that students should have more, not fewer weapons. "A law to prevent gun ownership doesn't do anything except keep good standing people more dependent on the government, so I am against any kind of gun control," explained Jeremy McClay, a senior at Virginia

Tech, who supports gun rights on constitutional grounds. Referring to the Virginia Tech shooting, McClay explained that "If students had been armed, I think the outcome would have been the same ... ownership of a firearm does not mean you are proficient at it." [What? So someone with a gun to defend themselves would have just laid it down, unfired, and bowed their head, waiting to be executed? I don't think so. - PVC] Jamal Carver graduated last spring from Virginia Tech with a degree in engineering science and mechanics. He was in his Monday morning engineering class when Cho began shooting into the Norris Hall classroom. Carver, one of several wounded in the assault, suffered gunshot wounds to his arm and stomach. Carver shared his thoughts on gun rights. "I think I'd rather have it where students can't have guns on campus," he said [Huh? VT already had a 'no guns' policy that Cho violated. - PVC], adding, "there should be some sort of system where a person has to go through some kind of a serial background check" before being allowed to purchase a weapon. [Huh? There already is. - PVC] Four months after the shooting, Carter explained he is doing well, physically, and that he is "emotionally fine ... besides the occasional bad dream." He said he plans to attend graduate school in the near future. "A lot of people have sort of moved on," he said, speaking about fellow classmates, many of whom go back to school next week. Carver expects those returning to be more jittery and aware of their surroundings when they attend classes in the fall. "It will just be different." ************************************************** 10. Former G-Man: Would students be safer if they carried guns? ************************************************** And from the "only police should have guns" mentality is a story that makes my blood boil. As an ex-deputy sheriff I am embarrassed by Mr. Van Zandt and his elitist, condescending comments towards the general public. Most police officers see the advantage to armed citizens, but as an ex-FBI profiler, Van Zandt may not have had enough street experience to understand that police rarely arrive on the scene of a

violent crime in time to save lives. I suggest duct tape and blood pressure medicine before proceeding. http://tinyurl.com/2kjk5k MSNBC.com Would students be safer if they carried guns? Gun safety questions still linger four months after the VA Tech shootings COMMENTARY By Clint Van Zandt Updated: 3:45 p.m. ET Aug 16, 2007 On April 17, four months ago today, a major university and a nation stood still in an attempt to understand the devastation that was levied by one angry man with two guns. That morning, 23-year-old Virginia Tech senior Cho Seung-Hui killed 33 and wounded 29 in an act of rage that still defies explanation. In the aftermath of those killings, many thought to themselves, "If only someone could have stopped him sooner..." As students at Virginia Tech prepare for a new school year, some believe they would be safer if they were legally allowed to carry guns along with members of the faculty and staff. It has been suggested that had just one student or faculty member had a gun, Cho could have been stopped before his total number of victims reached 62, thus saving perhaps dozens of lives. But others believe that the ensuing crossfire between Cho and armed students could have cost even more lives. [If I was at VT back in April, waiting for Cho to kill me, I would happily have taken my chances on getting hit by 'cross-fire.' - PVC] They think our colleges and universities should be islands of learning in the sea of violence that seems to grip our nation on a weekly basis. I do not see this as a Second Amendment right to bear arms issue. I see it as a need and a safety issue. Do students really need to carry a gun on campus for personal protection? [YES - PVC] Notwithstanding the slaughter at Tech, the murder rate on college campuses is 0.28 per 100,000 people, far less than the overall U.S. murder rate of 5.5 per 100,000. This means that a non-student is at least 20 times more likely to be a murder victim than a student at college. That is the way it should be. Our institutions of higher education should be places where people of all backgrounds come together to debate and discuss different ideas, and, if they've not learned otherwise, a place where they can be taught to disagree

without using violence to make their point and get their way. Students need to fight for their ideas and beliefs, ones honed over the blazing fires of verbal discourse and debate. But their fight should be with words, not bullets. [I agree, but if someone INSISTS on using bullets to harm innocents, then what, Mr. Van Zandt? - PVC] Guns on campus seem to increase other risks Within the last decade the Harvard School of Public Health conducted a random sample of over 15,000 undergraduate students from 130 different four-year colleges. At that time 3.5 percent of the student respondents indicated they had a firearm at college. This same study concluded that students with guns on campus were more likely to engage in binge drinking, to have DUI offenses, and were more likely than other students to be injured severely enough to require medical attention while in college. Overall, the study found that students with guns on campus were more likely than those without guns to engage in activities that put them and others at risk. [Oh, BS. Why am I not surprised that anti-gun Harvard even thought to run such a 'survey.' Anybody want to bet this survey was NOT of ADULT PERMIT HOLDERS? - PVC] Were all states to allow guns to be carried on campus, I believe the danger for everyone at such schools would increase. We know, for example, that approximately 25,000 college students attempt suicide and 1,1000 more are successful. We also know that roughly 90 percent of individuals who attempt suicide with a firearm are successful. If we do the math, as college teaches us to do, the success rate of college suicide could increase dramatically if guns were easier to obtain. Guns that were bought, borrowed or stolen, perhaps from a roommate or from the desk of an absent-minded professor who let students know that he or she had a loaded gun in their office desk drawer. [This guy was a COP? Unbelievable. His disdain for citizens is disgusting. - PVC] If a student or a college employee is able to turn to a readily available gun as a means of conflict resolution rather than talking or walking away, the danger to all increases exponentially. [This explains why police are constantly killing each other while attending academies. Actually this is the same old, "blood in the streets if two people bump into each other" argument that has been proven totally false for over a decade now. - PVC] Put yourself, for example, in the shoes of the campus police officer, administrator, instructor or janitor who must confront a student who

could possibly be carrying a gun under his sweatshirt. The tension between such individuals is automatically ratcheted up to a much higher level, one that could needlessly impact on the dialogue between the two. [Then police should leave their guns in their cars while confronting criminals, because the police officer's gun would only ratchet up the tension. Right, Mr. Van Zandt? - PVC] Shoot or don't shoot decisions not that simple [Want to bet? Cho has just shot several of my classmates and is now aiming his gun at me. Hmmmm - should I shoot him or not? Hmmmm - tough decision. If I shoot him, I live. If I don't, I die. Hmmmm - thinking, thinking. - PVC] During my time at the FBI, one encounter that sticks to my mind: I crossed a darkened basement floor, one step at a time, I strained in the dim light to see if an escaped killer was there and hiding. Would he attack when I came into his sights? In the dank basement was an old cardboard fireplace , something left over from perhaps a previous Christmas play. I grabbed the faded red cutout chimney and flipped it back. A man came at me from behind the cardboard. He seemed to fill the room in front of me. I stepped back, pointing my .357 at the middle of his chest. I yelled, "FBI. Freeze." He did. Later, as I was driving him to jail, he asked another FBI Agent, "Who was that guy in the basement, the one that was going to kill me?" I'm glad he understood that I would've shot him, and I am also glad that I didn't have to. I might have been justified in shooting him under the circumstances. But I didn't have to, so I didn't. I did a tour of duty in Vietnam, took years of "Shoot / Don't Shoot" courses, and have over two decades as an FBI agent. All that went into my decision not to shoot. It was a decision I had to make in a fraction of a second and one that I would need to make again. But I had a lot of experience informing my instincts and decisions. In any case, shootings involving FBI agents can be somewhat rare. They're rarer still on college campuses.

Would it have been "better" at Virginia Tech on April 17? [Yes - the students are not carrying a gun for law-enforcement or military purposes. They aren't sworn to go into dangerous places looking for criminals. They are free to run away from danger, if they can. - PVC] I totally agree that a number of armed students, faculty or staff on the Tech campus could have made a difference during Cho's killing spree, but I'm not sure the difference would have resulted in a better outcome. Would the armed students know who among those with guns was the real shooter that needed to be stopped? How should the police officers who flooded the campus looking for the shooter have responded when confronted by one or two or 50 students and others wielding guns as they ran helter skelter across the campus quad? [A law-abiding student is NOT going to point a gun at a police officer, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! - PVC] Could the situation, as terrible as it was, have become even more tragic were innocents to have shot other innocents in the haste of a moment, trying to identify the real shooter as they looked down the barrel of their own gun while their heart beat so loud they couldn't hear themselves think? [Clint - you missed your calling as a fictional book writer. - PVC] I think our schools would be far safer if we work first to exclude firearms from campus. Second, we need to work to identify the students at risk such as Cho, and get those students psychological help to develop appropriate anger management and conflict resolution skills. If necessary, those students need to be removed from campus. [And, we can all hold Mr. Van Zandt's hand and sing Kumbaya, while swaying from side-to-side. That will keep those criminals at bay! PVC] It's true that some shooters come from off campus, drawn to a school because the shooter wants to assault and murder in a target-rich environment. Such a shooter may also believe that no one would be capable of stopping his horrible actions, much like the monster that killed the five brave young women at the Amish school in Lancaster, Pa., in October 2006. In these rare outsider situations, it should first be the job of the school to keep such individuals out, and the job of law enforcement, not armed students, to tactically intervene when needed. Many people are fully capable of making good decisions concerning the firearm they carry on their person, but the chances are really slim that they would ever need to fire a weapon in self-defense or to save others. I just do not think the statistics, even when faced with a once-every-40-year situation like Cho at Virginia Tech justify the increased danger that allowing guns on campus could create. Your

second amendment rights are safe; just don't take your gun to school. ["Your Second Amendments rights are safe..." Not in your elitist hands, Sir. - PVC] Clint Van Zandt is a former [That's good news at least - PVC] FBI Agent, behavioral profiler and hostage negotiator as well as an MSNBC Analyst [MSNBC analyst - perhaps that says it all, right there PVC]. His web site www.LiveSecure.org provides readers with security related information. ************************************************** 11. When it comes to guns, The News Leader prefers to 'keep it local' ************************************************** I wonder if the News Leader would feel the same way about localities determining what was acceptable for The News Leader to print? The News Leader knows that when it comes to guns, the worst tyranny is at the local level. Look at Norfolk, Falls Church, Hampton, Manassas, etc. I am grateful every day that we have preemption in this state! It's a free country and the News Leader is free to dream of oppression if they so desire. VCDL members will continue to fight for freedom. http://tinyurl.com/39xzvp The News Leader Keep firearms decisions local Before the mourning period for the 32 students and faculty members gunned down on April 16 at Virginia Tech by fellow student Seung-Hui Cho had ended, questions began to be asked about how another such murderous rampage could be headed off. The suggestions have ranged from the simple -- installing interior door locks -- to the expensive: installing more cameras on campus and hiring more security personnel. Inevitably, there has been discussion about the advisability of allowing students to carry concealed weapons with the inevitable argument in favor of that solution: had one student inside any of the classrooms Cho turned into a killing zone been armed, Cho's rampage would have been cut short quickly and dramatically. The truth of the matter is that every suggestion that has been made

about increasing security at campuses in Virginia and elsewhere remains in the realm of the theoretical and subject to a myriad of random factors. Under some circumstances, one of these suggestions might provide positive outcomes; in others, they may actually make things worse. Such is the case where allowing firearms on college campuses is concerned. Proliferating the presence of firearms carried by students on campus may make concealed-carry and other gun advocates happy, but it is unlikely to have the deterrent effect that those advocates advertise. The peculiarities of college life -- the general lack of a home base where firearms might be securely stored, ready availability and use of alcohol and large numbers of young and often immature people -suggests that more bad outcomes may occur than good if large numbers of firearms are present. We object to any attempt by lobbying groups to overturn universities or colleges rights to decide to ban firearms. We feel that the current policy used in Virginia, which allows institutions of higher learning to allow or forbid students to carry concealed weapons is adequate. Blue Ridge Community College is not VCU and the University of Virginia in Charlottesville is not the same as its branch college located in Wise. A blanket decision about allowing firearms across the entire state is not the answer to making college students in Virginia safer. Keep it local. Opinions expressed in this feature represent the majority opinion of the newspaper's editorial board, consisting of: Roger Watson, president and publisher; David Fritz, executive editor; Cindy Corell, local editor; Jim McCloskey, editorial cartoonist; and Dennis Neal, opinions editor. ************************************************** 12. Chronicle responds to LTE, praises Eddie Eagle program ************************************************** VCDL member TJ Parmele got a letter printed last week. He got the paper's attention to the point that they felt compelled to respond to him ;-) http://tinyurl.com/3b6r6y The South County Chronicle

Reader's Viewpoint-I Shook My Head Regarding Your Gun Rights Editorial Published: Friday, August 3, 2007 1:22 PM EDT I shook my head reading your editorial titled "Gun Deaths Versus Gun Rights in the Light of Virginia Tech" [June, 2007]. I was shocked and dismayed at the "facts" that your editorial reported. Again, the media either forget to check facts, or deliberately leave information out. This letter is an attempt to fill that void. Here are the problems: Your editorial mentions that the National Rifle Association (NRA) is essentially an impediment to compromise and supporting sensible gun access. The NRA supports the National Instant Background Check system; they were critical in getting it passed in the 1990s. The NRA worked with Democrat Sarah McCarthy, a noted anti-gun proponent in crafting and passing HR 2064, which provides federal money to states to report mental health cases to the NICS, so murderers like Cho are further limited from firearm access. The NRA has a program called "Eddie the Eagle" that teaches firearm safety to children in all 50 states. This teaches children four simple rules when they see a firearm: Stop! Don't touch. Leave the Area. Tell an Adult. The NRA is the number-one safety organization that teaches firearms safety to law enforcement, sportsmen, hunters, trap shooters, and individuals who want to defend themselves. Your editorial also mentions the recent brouhaha between Virginia and New York City. It's obvious that no fact-checking was done for this statement at all. Bloomberg did not cooperate with federal, state, or local law enforcement with his stings they were all conducted by private investigators who videotaped the transactions. These same private investigators sought to conduct straw purchases, which is an instant felony under Virginia state and federal law. Bloomberg civilly, not criminally, sued two dozen gun dealers in six states in federal court for violating New York City public nuisance laws. Bloomberg refused to hand over the videotapes to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) and only did so with the coercion of a court order. The ATF has since ruled that no crimes were committed by any of the dealers involved in Bloomberg's lawsuits, they have since launched a federal investigation into Bloomberg to see what laws he has broken. Your editorial also gets it wrong regarding Cho and his access to firearms. Numerous people at Virginia Tech reported Seung-Hui Cho to numerous officials. Officials at the local level and Virginia Tech dropped the ball in not committing him. If he had been committed, his

name would have been sent to the NICS database, thus preventing him from legally owning a firearm. Of the 22 states that submit data to the NICS, Virginia submitted more than half of the names. I am not going into the statistics; they are cooked longer than overdone spaghetti, and just as useful. I hope to see more editorials actually going through facts instead of bleating the standard Brady Bunch message of "more gun control." TJ Parmele Alexandria ----------Viewpoints' Response Whereas the writer certainly is free to disagree, he is not free to invent his own "facts." With regards to the NRA support of HB 2064 that occurred after the editorial was published, the editorial did not question the good work in gun safety such as the Eddie the Eagle program that the NRA performs; it challenged the NRA to support legislation that would block gun purchases by criminals and the mentally ill. The writer quietly fails to address the gun show loophole supported by the NRA, which enables criminals and the mentally ill to legally purchase guns in Virginia. He is correct that Bloomberg's agents broke the law. He claims the Virginia gun dealers committed no crimes. The evidence suggests that the dealers did improperly sell guns; however, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms is not going to prosecute dealers involved in an illegal gun purchase sting. The bureau would not acknowledge an investigation of Bloomberg. After the Virginia Tech tragedy, Governor Kaine closed the loophole requiring individuals who are deemed dangerous and ordered by a court to undergo outpatient mental health treatment be reported to the federal database of those ineligible to buy firearms. At the time of the incident, only those actually committed to a hospital were reported to the federal database. Mental health services are grossly underfunded in Virginia and Cho probably will not be the last mentally unstable person who does not get the care they need or the dangerous access to a gun they should be denied. ************************************************** 13. American Handgunner: How could VT murders NOT have happened? **************************************************

John Connor unblinkingly says it like it is. If you like political correctness (speak/thought control), then you won't like this article. If you think that Mr. Van Zandt (#10, above) is right that gun **bans** save lives, then you won't like this article. For the rest of you, here comes a breath of fresh air: http://tinyurl.com/yof6zm American Handgunner Virginia Tech: Rage, Reflection and Rejection Guest Editorial by Handgunner's own John Connor Editor's Note: I discussed the Virginia Tech incident with Connor during one of his rare "phone into the office" moments. After talking, I realized John could say it better than I ever could, so I asked him to send us his thoughts. Reading this, you might think he was calm, thoughtful and methodical while he was writing it. Nope. If we had strapped some cans of old paint to him, the contents would have been whipped to a froth from the rage-induced vibration. Best not to mention it to him for a while, perhaps -- until his Heat Index drops below "volcanic." How could this have happened? Is that a serious question? In a place where possession of a gun -- and indeed, any effective means of self-defense -- is prohibited; a place packed with young people who have been taught that surrender and submission is not only the correct, but the morally superior response to lethal confrontation; a slaughter-chute where the prey were lulled by a moronic mantra of "this is a gun-free zone; a safe and nurturing place; there is nothing to fear," 32 are killed at leisure by a lone, armed psychotic. Through a red film of rage, I ask, I cry, How could it NOT have happened? Did thinking people not know, from both ancient and modern history, and from simple common sense, that it had to happen? First, disarm as many citizens as possible. Restrict their God-given right to self-defense, and make those who successfully deter predators the subjects of aggressive prosecution and endless life-destroying lawsuits on behalf of their would-be murderers. Create "killing boxes," and fill them with infantilized, mind-massaged victims, and give them rules against resisting killers. Forbid trained, experienced, armed citizens and even off-duty peace officers from bearing arms in those zones, and ridicule those who protest as "paranoids."

Coddle the obviously crazed and dangerous. Brush aside and ignore their prolonged, repeated, graphic threats of grisly mass murder. Minimize their malignant malice; indulge it as "diversity" and celebrate its "otherness." If the most obvious threat is brought before a court, then fumble and fail, without follow-up, and hold no one accountable for it, because the guilty are "gentle, compassionate, socially-sensitive souls." Do not blink at the ticking time bomb's return to the classroom, where his freshly embittered brain spews out even more and greater warnings of the coming explosion. Finally, claim this inevitable event, and the actions of its architect "could never have been foreseen," even if, absurdly, you "knew it had to be Cho" when you heard of the slaughter. Only a "respected professor" or other half-wit could utter such words without seeing their irony. Above all, totally abdicate decision-making power on the issues of arms and self-defense to those who are completely unqualified to even address the subjects. A Better Bloodbath In America, many of our oldest and most onerous gun laws were crafted by criminals and passed by their puppet politicians. Frequently their purpose, as in New York City, was to prohibit arms to rival gangs. In other places, like Chicago and San Francisco, their aim was to criminalize ethnic minorities and "subversive elements," including blue-collar workers with coal on their clothes and grease under their fingernails; those who might organize and object to dangerous slave labor conditions and perennial poverty. Following on that foundation came more restrictive weapons laws propounded by "progressive thinkers" and "social engineers," many of whom also embraced the "science" of "eugenics," which called for the euthanasia of "congenital misfits, morons and degenerates." Jews were, as a race, defined as degenerates. The "progressive" philosophy also envisioned a more "manageable, unarmed populace" of those who were not quite bound for the gas chambers, but well below the sophistication level of "gifted society" -- those "born to lead." They only abandoned euthanasia, by the way, when the Third Reich co-opted the theme. Tyrants and gangsters still exert their influence, because corrupt politicians prefer unarmed peasants; a simple fact. Their motives

ethically disqualify them from such decision-making. Then, increasingly, our laws, policies and public perceptions have been and are promoted and enforced by psychological cripples, the emotionally unbalanced, and moral cowards. Am I being rash and unreasonable? Please consider this: Those who fear inanimate objects -- tools like guns and knives -- and believe them to be intrinsically evil or capable of inspiring evil, are clearly psychologically crippled. They cannot think rationally about arms and their lawful use. Those who cannot differentiate between armed, trained, dedicated guardians of their fellow man, and twisted, predatory, psychotic killers, based on shared use of firearms, are clearly emotionally unbalanced. Those who so morbidly fear physical confrontation they preach submission and surrender, even unto death, in preference to fighting for life -- and seek to enforce that condition upon others -- are moral cowards. None are possessed of the courage, wisdom and appreciation of the dynamics of violence and counter-violence requisite to engage in decision-making on those critical issues -- yet they do. They persist, and the killing zones widen, deepen and darken with the blood of innocents. Our rights and freedoms were fought for and affirmed by brave and brilliant men, now derided and ridiculed by academia and the effete as "Irrelevant Dead White Males." Our rights have been stolen by the unworthy. To them we must say, "Your way has not, does not, will not work. Sit down and SHUT UP!" ************************************************** 14. JMU weapons policy Q&A ************************************************** This would make me laugh if it didn't make me want to cry. No doubt James Madison is hanging his head in shame at what this university is doing. http://tinyurl.com/2cw78p Questions January 2007 GiGi, Dr. Waldo, and Joe all have permits to carry a concealed weapon issued by the Commonwealth of Virginia. GiGi is a student, and she carries a pistol in her Gucci purse. Dr. Waldo is a faculty member,

and he has a hunting rifle in the cab of his truck under the seat. Joe is a staff member who is a part-time commissioned police officer for the city, and he wears his service revolver strapped to his waist under his jacket. Which does not violate JMU policy? Answers C. Joe. Only he can carry a weapon, because he is a commissioned officer. JMU Policy 1105, Prohibition of Weapons, states: "No person shall carry, maintain, or store a weapon, concealed or otherwise, on any property owned, leased, or controlled by James Madison University. This policy applies to weapons carried about the person and maintenance or storage of any weapon in any university facility or within any parked vehicle on university premises." "This policy does not apply to law enforcement officials duly authorized to carry such weapons." ************************************************** 15. Sen. Warner, citing his grandfatherhood, supports Brady expansion ************************************************** Senator Warner, in true smarmy politician fashion, tries to play it both ways in this form letter response to inquiries about HR2640. Whenever a politician claims he or she "strongly supports the right to bear arms," but then follows with a "but" or a "however," watch out for what comes next: -[Dear Constituent:] As a gun-owner and hunter, I strongly support the constitutional right of law-abiding citizens to keep and bear arms. However, as a father and grandfather, I also support public policies that ensure the responsible and appropriate use of guns. [So, as a father and grandfather Senator Warner is free to urinate on the Constitution? PVC] Thank you for contacting me to share your thoughts on the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) and the purchase of firearms. I appreciate the benefit of your views on this matter. Established by the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act of 1993, the NICS serves as a name check system for Federal Firearms Licensees to conduct background checks on potential buyers of firearms or explosives. Administered by the Federal Bureau of Investigation

(FBI), the NICS contains records, provided by federal and state agencies, on individuals who: have been dishonorably discharged from the Armed Forces; are lawful users of or addicted to a controlled substance; have been adjudicated as a mental defective or have been committed to a mental institution; are illegal or unlawful aliens; or have renounced their United States citizenship. Regarding mental health specifically, twenty-two states submit mental health information to the NICS related to individuals determined to be "mental defectives." In accordance with the regulations set forth by the Brady Act, supporting documentation must be provided to prove that an individual was adjudicated as a mental defective or involuntarily committed for treatment. Currently, if state legislation or privacy laws prohibit the sharing of mental health information, states may provide information for inclusion in the NICS without mental health specifics. You may be interested to know that, as of April 1, 2007, the Commonwealth of Virginia has entered over 80,000 mental health records into the NICS index, along with more than 104,000 entries into the Denied Persons File. Virginia is the leading state in reporting mental defective entries for the NICS index. On April 21, 2007, in response to the tragic shootings at Virginia Tech, President George W. Bush directed the Attorney General, the Secretary of Health and Human Services, and the Secretary of Education to travel across the nation and gather input on issues related to mental health and campus security. On June 14, 2007, the three Cabinet members made their report on this issue to the President. This report included a recommendation that the Department of Justice, through the FBI and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives, should continue to encourage state and federal agencies to provide all appropriate information to the NICS so that required background checks are thorough and complete. The report also recommended that states re-evaluate existing state laws to ensure that relevant information is made available to the NICS. On June 13, 2007, the House of Representatives passed H.R.2640 by voice vote. H.R.2640 would amend federal law to require the head of each federal agency that has records relating to persons for whom receipt of a firearm would violate federal or state law to provide such information to the United States Attorney General for inclusion in the NICS. However, this bill would exclude from use in the NICS the name or other identifying information of any person adjudicated or determined to be mentally defective unless such determination included a finding that the person is a danger to him - or herself or

to others or that the person lacked the mental capacity to manage his or her own affairs. H.R.2640 would also direct the Attorney General to make grants to state and to Indian tribal governments for the establishment or upgrade of information and identification technologies to determine firearms eligibility. In the Senate, matters involving firearms generally fall under the jurisdiction of the Senate Judiciary Committee, of which I am not a member. However, I appreciate your thoughts on this issue, and I will be certain to keep them in mind should H.R.2640 or related legislation come before me in the Senate. As a gun-owner and hunter, I strongly support the constitutional right of law-abiding citizens to keep and bear arms. However, as a father and grandfather, I also support public policies that ensure the responsible and appropriate use of guns. Again, thank you for contacting me. With kind regards, I am Sincerely, John W. Warner United States Senator ************************************************** 16. Anti-gun judge gives Bloomberg green light to sue GA gun shops ************************************************** YAWWWWNNNNN! Wow - what a surprise. VCDL has been saying Weinstein would do this from the beginning. Judge Jack Weinstein has never seen a lawsuit against a gun manufacturer or a gun store that he did not love. He passes them forward as a matter of course. If nothing else, he is predictable. He also gets overturned regularly ;-) http://tinyurl.com/27un4k Federal lawsuit against Georgia gun dealers clears hurdle New York City accuses merchants of illegal sales By BILL RANKIN, RHONDA COOK

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Published on: 08/15/07 A federal judge on Wednesday kept alive a lawsuit accusing Georgia gun dealers of illegally selling firearms that end up being used in crimes in New York City. In a 99-page ruling, U.S. District Judge Jack Weinstein in Brooklyn said he found ample evidence the gun dealers "have been responsible for the funneling into New York of large quantities of handguns used by local criminals to terrorize significant portions of the city's population." The judge rejected motions filed by a number of gun shops, including Adventure Outdoors in Smyrna, that sought to dismiss the lawsuit filed by the city of New York. Adventure Outdoors and other gun stores in Ohio, Virginia and South Carolina argued they couldn't be sued in federal court in New York. In a statement, New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg applauded the ruling. "Today's decision affirms that New York's courts do indeed have jurisdiction to hear a lawsuit against out of state gun dealers whose guns most often end up in the hands of criminals," Bloomberg said. "And it shows that cities can hold those who cause harm to innocent people and the police who protect us accountable." Eric Wallace of Adventure Outdoors referred questions about the ruling to the company's lawyers. They could not be reached for comment. The city of New York filed its lawsuit in May 2006 against numerous gun dealers, including five in Georgia. Three of the Georgia gun shops -- Welsh Pawn Shop in Savannah, AAA Gun & Pawn Brokers in Hephizbah and A-1 Jewelry & Pawn in Augusta -have reached settlement agreements, according to court records. A special master, assigned by the court, is monitoring their gun sales and business practices. Another Georgia dealer, the Gun Store in Doraville, did not join in the motions to dismiss the case and remains a defendant in the lawsuit. Two months after the city of New York filed the lawsuit, Adventure Outdoors filed a $400 million libel suit against the city and Bloomberg. That case is pending in federal court in Atlanta.

In his ruling, Weinstein noted that between 1995 and 2005 there were at least eight federal prosecutions for illegal purchases in which Adventure Outdoors was the source of the guns. He also cited five crimes committed in the city between 1996 and 2001 involving guns purchased at Adventure Outdoors. Weinstein set a Jan. 7 trial date. The judge said New York has a strong interest in the safety of its residents from handgun violence. "The activities which the defendants are alleged to be involved in are illegal and against the public interest in all states," the judge wrote. ************************************************** 17. RTD: Only good gun shop is a closed gun shop ************************************************** Of course, Ray McAllister claims "legitimate gun dealers should be able to operate," but the question is, what does he consider legitimate? Probably only those operating under Bloomberg's "Special Masters." http://tinyurl.com/2ojydr No one wants blame for crimes with illegal guns Thursday, Aug 16, 2007 - 12:08 AM By RAY MCALLISTER TIMES-DISPATCH COLUMNIST Call it the tale of two gun shops. Tuesday's column reported that Cole's Gun Shop of South Boston, which settled a lawsuit initiated by New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg alleging illegal gun sales, has closed. Don't expect a settlement from the Bob Moates Sport Shop in Chesterfield County. The Chesterfield business is another of the 27 gun shops in several states, including six in Virginia, sued for allegedly contributing to New York City's crime with illegal gun sales. Twelve shops have settled, including two in Virginia. But Moates said he will fight. "When you're right, you're right," Moates said yesterday from his sister shop in Charlotte County. "And when you're wrong, you're

wrong, and [Bloomberg is] definitely wrong. He's violating my rights with a frivolous suit." But Bloomberg's sting operation brings up this key question: Are dealers doing all they can to curb illegal sales? How much should we expect them to do? Michael Cole, brother and lawyer of the South Boston gun shop owner, said: "Essentially, the [suit's] claim was that we were supposed to read what was in people's minds based on cues that were vague or ambiguous." He said the shop has turned down suspicious sales by the hundreds. Mark Cole, the shop's owner, said his own ill heath and the store's dwindling business were the major factors in its closing. But the Bloomberg lawsuit contributed, he said. Mark Cole said he has always respected the law; his father, the store's founder, was a police officer. "To have this come along and smear what good name I've built up is very unsettling," he said. He said a boycott of his shop by the Virginia Citizens Defense League gun-rights group had no effect on his business or his decision. In fact, he said he supports groups and shops that want to fight Bloomberg. The irony here is that no one wants guns sold illegally. Mark Cole said he does not believe a gun dealer is responsible for a crime involving a weapon he sells if the sale was not "knowingly illegal." But is that the best standard? A gun-control group has said Moates' shop sold 22 guns that were recovered by New York City police between 1994 and 2002 and that several allegedly were used in homicides. Moates was adamant yesterday that he's not responsible, equating his role to a car dealer's role in a crash. "If anybody is responsible," Moates said, "New York is responsible for not enforcing their laws. They send their dope down here, that's what really causing the trouble . . . fighting over turf for drug

control." Meanwhile, Mark Cole said he likely won't reopen his South Boston shop, but if he does, he will sell only sporting goods, fishing equipment, archery equipment and such. "The political climate these days is not conducive to gun business, which is a shame," he said. It is a shame. Legitimate gun dealers should be able to operate. But a bigger shame is illegal gun sales that lead to crime. Gun-rights advocates may believe nothing's worse than keeping guns from deserving owners. But there is something worse -- the carnage that results when guns fall into the wrong hands. [Oh, please. Guns don't just fall out of the sky into the criminal's hands. Criminals seek out guns and WILL get them, no matter what. Ray simply doesn't understand the real world. Too bad - PVC] ************************************************** 18. Gun Talk broadcast on XM radio ************************************************** Thanks to Michael Dreher for the info: Gun Talk is also broadcast on XM radio channel 166. ************************************************** 19. Gun shop manager charged with selling guns on the street ************************************************** http://tinyurl.com/34a7ka Gun shop manager charged with selling guns on the street WVEC.com 10:46 PM EDT on Monday, August 13, 2007 Reported by: Shannon Sims Police have charged the manager of a Va. Beach gun shop with stealing guns from the store and selling them on the streets. According to an affidavit obtained by our partners at The

Virginian-Pilot, Marcus McCall was a manager at A&P Arms Store for a year and a half, but worked in the gun shop for four years. An investigation started in April revealed McCall had given or sold a number of rifles and handguns to employees of A&P and friends. According to the affidavit, the owner was tipped off about two rifles sold and given away by McCall. When inventory didn't match up with paperwork, the business owner contacted authorities. Police searched McCall's Virginia Beach home and recovered thirty handguns and rifles. In a police interview, McCall claims he purchased the weapons from the store, but could not explain why the weapons were not logged into inventory or why there was no record of him ever paying for the weapons. Witnesses told federal agents McCall sold them guns ranging in price from $160 to $400 for a Panther Arms AR-15 rifle. McCall's father says the guns were purchased, not stolen, and this is all a misunderstanding that will have to be cleared up through the legal system. McCall has been charged with embezzlement. He is presently behind bars awaiting a bond hearing. ************************************************** 20. Rookie SF cop accidentally kills self ************************************************** This officer was apparently counting on his gun having a 'magazine safety,' where the gun won't fire if the magazine is removed. Unfortunately, either his gun didn't have that feature OR the safety malfunctioned. Either way, NEVER POINT A GUN AT SOMETHING YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO DESTROY AND KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL READY TO SHOOT. http://tinyurl.com/yv9q6d San Francisco Chronicle Rookie cop who killed himself removed clip, left bullet in chamber

Jaxon Van Derbeken, John Cote, Chronicle Staff Writers Wednesday, August 15, 2007 The San Francisco rookie police officer who accidentally shot himself to death fired his weapon while displaying for a female friend how officers are taught to avoid having their guns used against them, law enforcement authorities said Tuesday. The incident happened at 1:40 a.m. Saturday during a gathering of as many as 15 people at the San Mateo apartment of the 23-year-old officer, James Gustafson Jr. According to those familiar with the incident, Gustafson was showing his Police Department-issued semiautomatic pistol after removing the clip that stores the rounds. He explained that there are ways an officer can disable a weapon in close proximity to keep it from being fired. It apparently was part of a demonstration of the department's "weapons retention" procedures. However, there was still a bullet in the chamber. Gustafson pointed the weapon at his neck and pulled the trigger, shooting himself, according to authorities. San Francisco Police Department policy is never to point a gun at a target that an officer does not intend to shoot, authorities said. San Mateo police Capt. Kevin Raffaelli, whose agency is leading the investigation of the incident, declined to comment Tuesday other than to say that police do not believe other officers were present at the time of the shooting. Some of those at the party apparently were drinking, authorities said. Toxicology results from Gustafson's autopsy will not be available for several weeks. Gustafson graduated from the San Francisco Police Academy in January and had just finished a six-month stint in the Mission District under a field training officer. He had recently been assigned to the department's Central Station. E-mail the writers at jvanderbeken@sfchronicle.com and jcote@sfchronicle.com. ************************************************** 21. Washington Times OP-ED on bearing arms

************************************************** http://tinyurl.com/ypsnkl WashingtonTimes.com Article published Aug 13, 2007 Bearing arms Scott McPherson August 13, 2007

The men who founded our nation understood that government was necessary to preserve the people's freedoms. But they also knew that government agents could not always be trusted to use their authority justly, and that government remains the single greatest threat to the rights and liberties of the people. America's Founding Fathers knew that freedom required that the people always retain the ability to take government out of the hands of abusive officials, "to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future Security." This was far from just some lofty theory to the Founders. They had witnessed oppressive government firsthand and had seen this principle unfold in dramatic practice as thousands of armed citizens took up their muskets and drove the king's soldiers -- their government's soldiers -- back to Boston on April 19, 1775. The United States was born out of the fight against tyranny. Most important, the Framers remembered this when they created a new Constitution. To ensure that government remains in the hands of the people, the Second Amendment guaranteed that the citizen militia would remain sacrosanct. The right of the people to keep and bear arms is the least understood of all rights mentioned in the Constitution. Few today have any idea of the true meaning and intent of this provision, and most people are more likely to deride this right either as an archaic and unnecessary remnant of an embarrassing past, or at best merely some benign assurance that "sportsmen" will be able to go hunting. Neither is true. The right of the people to keep and bear arms is an important and integral part of what it means to be an American. In fact, it could be said to represent the most important and integral part of being an

American. When our ancestors followed the example of half the state governments and included a "right to arms" provision in the Federal Bill of Rights, they unapologetically and irrefutably established a nation of free and autonomous individuals. By granting legal and moral recognition to the right to keep and bear arms in the Constitution -- "the law of the land" -- Americans made concrete in practice that every single free citizen would remain the final repository of political power. Early American statesmen were following the sage advice of such men as the Scottish philosopher and militia advocate Andrew Fletcher, who argued that "arms are the only true badges of liberty," providing "the distinction of a free man from a slave." Without arms, the people's rights could too easily become prey to the whim of an ambitious executive, the edicts of a corrupt legislature or the proclamations of false-hearted judges. Under an armed citizenry, this becomes much more difficult. Government must proceed carefully when exercising power, lest a "long Train of Abuses and Usurpations" inspire the people to again water the "tree of liberty . . . with the blood of patriots and tyrants." In no other culture and under no other government has the importance of an armed citizenry been made so explicit or as carefully guaranteed as it has under the American constitutional order. While both ancient Rome and the British Parliament paid statutory lip service to the value of being armed, only in the United States was being armed recognized as an inviolable right protected by the Constitution. What started with gunfire at Lexington and Concord ended with the words of Tench Coxe, a friend of James Madison: "Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birth-right of an American. . . . [The] unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people." James Madison also understood the ultimate, fail-safe role of the citizen militia. In Federalist 46, he dismissed fears of a standing army being used against the people because it "would be opposed [by] a militia. . . with arms in their hands." A few years later he would write what became the Second Amendment, with its promise that "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed." If the average person today wonders about his relationship to his government, the Second Amendment provides ample guidance. It represents the ideal of American political and social life: the individual, self-governing, self-motivated, self-respecting,

dignified, free citizen -- who takes these virtues so seriously that he will maintain the personal power to back them up. Scott McPherson is a policy advisor at the Future of Freedom Foundation. ************************************************** 22. CT paper admits 'gun nuts' right, but author still contradictory ************************************************** At least it's a big step in the right direction... These comments relate to Item #5 in the 8/13/07 Update. The URL for the editorial is: http://tinyurl.com/32rqby Member Paul Fraser writes: -In response to the editorial about the Connecticut brutalities, I had a thought I wanted to add: This writer seems to contradict himself. "Might the Second Amendment matter almost as much as the First? I think the answer is yes. And just like the First, the Second is practical, newly relevant, and far wiser than the watered-down alternatives." and then... "Mind you, we are talking about arming people who are trained and know how to use a weapon. No one should have a gun who has not been trained. Just as one gets training in handling a boat, motorcycle, or car, one must learn how to use and safely store a gun. (The National Rifle Association maintains an extensive national network of programs in firearms training and education.)" Do people have to get training before being allowed to write or speak before the public? Do people have to get training before they are protected from unlawful searches and seizures? In one breath he says that they are equal amendments, and in another breath he contradicts himself. Driving a car or handling a boat are privileges, not constitutionally protected rights. There is a distinct difference. **************************************************

23. Daily Press reports on bank robber, formerly one of their own ************************************************** I finally understand the strong anti-gun attitude of the editorial staff of the Daily Press! It's self preservation. They don't want to get shot while moonlighting as bank robbers! ;-) All kidding aside, they did 'fess up by running the story: http://tinyurl.com/2uutut dailypress.com Newport News man arrested in Gloucester bank robbery BY MATHEW PAUST 757-247-4760 Daily Press 8:10 PM EDT, August 14, 2007 GLOUCESTER Gloucester County's sheriff and several deputies helped pull a Newport News man out of the York River before arresting him in connection with a lunchtime bank robbery on Route 17. Mario Anthony Orlikoff of Main Street in Newport News was arrested shortly after noon by Sheriff Robin P. Stanaway and several deputies, according to information released by the Gloucester County Sheriff's Office. Employees of Chesapeake Bank, on Route 17 in the Wicomico community, called police emergency dispatchers about 12:15 p.m. to report a robbery in progress. The callers said the robber, who wore a ball cap and a dark jacket, handed a teller a note demanding money. The teller complied, and the robber dashed out of the bank with an undisclosed amount of cash. According to the news release, an "alert citizen" at the bank's drive-through window witnessed the robbery and followed the suspect after he fled the bank and drove off. The citizen kept telling the 911 dispatcher information until deputies could reach the area. The man then abandoned his car and ran off. Deputies eventually spotted him swimming in the York River. Stanaway and members of his criminal investigations division helped the man ashore and arrested

him, the statement said. Investigators recovered what they believe was the note used in the robbery, a toy gun and clothing similar to that used in the robbery. The money was not recovered. ***Orlikoff is a former Daily Press assistant sports editor.*** The robbery was the second bank robbery in Gloucester this year. ************************************************** 24. LTE on guns in national parks in UT paper ************************************************** http://tinyurl.com/ynlvec Guns in parks Article Last Updated: 08/13/2007 12:12:56 AM MDT Congressman Ron Paul's bill, HR1897, will allow law-abiding gun owners to be able to carry a handgun for self-defense in a national park. The U.S. Constitution is very clear that the federal government (including bureaucrats and politicians) has no authority to deprive Americans of the right to keep and bear arms, even in national parks. The bureaucracy of the Department of the Interior has arrogantly refused to seriously consider changing its current regulations to allow citizens the right to self-defense, even though crime is on the rise in national parks. There is substantial evidence that criminals do not respect gun-free zones such as national parks and schools. There are sufficient existing laws to punish those who commit a crime with a gun in national parks. So there is no need to criminalize the possession of a self-defense tool in these locations. Congress and the president must act immediately to allow innocent persons to protect their own lives, and those of other innocent persons, in national parks. Blaine Nay Cedar City ************************************************** 25. Parker v. DC now known as DC v. Heller for appeals process

************************************************** Jeff Knox of The Firearms Coalition writes: Activists should be aware of the fact that as the "Parker" case heads to appeal at the Supreme Court, it is no longer known as Parker v. DC. The pleading for certiorari will be titled "District of Columbia v. Heller" since Heller was the only plaintiff in the original case who was actually found to have legal standing and the roles have switched for the appeal. This change has made it difficult for many people trying to keep up with the case to locate information since they were searching for the wrong case title. The Supreme Court did grant the Districts request for more time to file their appeal and that time runs out on September 5. One of the primary reasons for the requested delay -- and probably for the decision to appeal itself -- is the fact that DC has managed to hire a prominent anti-gun law professor to head up their case. The Professor only became available in the past month or so and they wanted him to be able to supervise the whole shebang. (Or at least that's what I think.) I am currently writing a short piece on this subject for inclusion in the upcoming edition of the Hard Corps Report which we hope to have in the mail next week. If you do not currently receive the HCR, all it takes is a donation (or really just a request, but we much prefer requests that are accompanied by a donation to help defray our costs.) Remember that your CongressCritters are home this month; make sure they get voting advice from you while they're in town. ************************************************** 26. Steep decline in firearms dealers across the U.S. ************************************************** VCDL EM and corporate attorney, Richard Gardiner, has been warning about this for quite a while now: http://tinyurl.com/2t9fp6 Houston Chronicle (Chron.com) Steep decline in firearms dealers across the U.S. Reasons include tougher laws, strict enforcement

Aug. 15, 2007, 8:29PM By MICHAEL DOYLE McClatchy-Tribune WASHINGTON -- Tougher laws and stricter enforcement cost nearly 200,000 U.S. gun dealers their licenses since the mid-1990s, a new study shows. Led by remarkably sharp declines in states including California, Florida and Washington, the number of federally licensed firearms dealers has fallen 79 percent nationwide since 1994. In that year, Congress adopted new gun-control measures that still spark fiery debate. "The sharp drop in gun dealers is one of the most important, and little-noticed, victories in the effort to reduce firearms violence in America," declared Marty Langley, a policy analyst with the Violence Policy Center, a gun-control advocacy group. The decline is undeniable. What it means is more controversial. =================== GUN DEALERS DECLINE In 1994, 245,628 U.S. residents held federal licenses allowing them to sell firearms. In California alone, the nation's most populous state, there were 20,148 license holders. Now, there are 50,630 of the so-called Type 1 federal firearms licenses nationwide. In California, the number of licenses fell to 2,120 this year. =================== "They're trying to pump their stats up," complained Bill Mayfield, a longtime gun dealer in Fresno, Calif. "It looks good, but what they're doing is pursuing an anti-gun, anti-American point of view." The number of firearms licenses is down more than 80 percent since 1994 in Florida, Washington, Louisiana and Georgia, for example. Even the state with the smallest reduction in licensed dealers -- Montana -- saw a 68 percent decline. "As the number of licensed dealers has dropped, it's become more manageable for the (Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives) to enforce," Langley said. The decline in licenses began after Congress approved in 1993 the so-called Brady Bill, named for former White House press secretary

James Brady, who was wounded in a 1981 assassination attempt on President Reagan. The 1993 law, and a subsequent 1994 anti-crime law, imposed new restrictions. The firearms licenses that once cost $10 a year now cost $200 a year for the first three years. License applicants now must submit photographs and fingerprints and inform local police of their plans. In many cases, those losing licenses were so-called "kitchen table" dealers, who operated from their homes rather than from formal storefronts. "Smaller shops simply can't afford some of that," said Ashley Varner, a spokesperson for the National Rifle Association, and "people in rural areas have a harder time getting firearms if they aren't near a large store." Nonetheless, Varner said Justice Department records indicate total firearm sales have remained roughly even in recent years. Gun-related crimes have fallen over the past year, as have the percentage of Americans who say they own firearms. In 1993, for instance, the Justice Department recorded more than 1 million non-fatal crimes involving firearms. By 2005, the number of nonfatal gun-related crimes had fallen to 419,000. "The fact that there are fewer gun dealers out there means there are fewer sources of guns for street criminals," Langley said. ************************************************** 27. August 28 is National Exercise Your Rights Day! Buy something! ************************************************** The gun blogging world is organizing this to counter Jesse Jackson's national protest against guns. Links to blogs about National Exercise Your Rights Day: http://tinyurl.com/3y4ygt http://tinyurl.com/2loz6f http://tinyurl.com/2bpc22 http://tinyurl.com/3xmf2c

http://tinyurl.com/2u4oz8 ************************************************** 28. VCDL & OpenCarry.org team up for Gun Rights Policy Conference ************************************************** VCDL will be co-hosting a hospitality suite at the Gun Rights Policy Conference (GRPC) in Cincinnati, Ohio area this year, so if you make the conference, come by the suite and say, 'hello!' Details will follow as the October 5th, 6th and 7th event draws near. GRPC is **free** and a 'must' for those of us in the fight to protect our right to keep and bear arms. More info on the GRPC is at: http://www.saf.org/default.asp?p=GRPC ************************************************** 29. Who needs a gun at home? ************************************************** Apparently this guy doesn't; he seemed to do OK without one! Although he might have avoided that head wound had he been able to return fire. The article shows just how vicious a life-and-death struggle can be: http://tinyurl.com/2zgfgj Courant.com 'Basically I Was In Shock ...' Homeowner Puts Up Fight After Arriving Home To Find A Stranger Aiming A Gun At Him By DON STACOM And LARRY SMITH Courant Staff Writers August 15, 2007 ENFIELD Taking a break from work at his roadside farm stand, Richard Ouellette Jr. walked into his Washington Road house early Tuesday afternoon and suddenly faced a genuine nightmare: a 6-foot-8, 280-pound stranger aiming a gun at his head. The intruder demanded Ouellette open a small wall safe, but the 40-year-old produce farmer - who stands 5-foot-10 and weighs 170 -

wasn't going to oblige. "Basically I was in shock. I don't know if I did the right thing or the wrong thing, but I thought, `He's not telling me what to do in my home.' I pushed his arm away," Ouellette recalled from his parents' home Tuesday evening. Even after the hulking man tried to shoot him three times - the gun misfired - and then opened a deep wound on Ouellette's head by whacking him with a heavy glass, Ouellette fought back. "He tried to shoot, then he grabbed me, I grabbed him and we fought. We finally fell down a full flight of stairs, breaking everything in the way. Then he hit me with this thick glass, I saw stars. He was choking me, he had a fork and he was going to stab me, I couldn't take much more," Ouellette said. The attacker finally ran out of the house - and Ouellette ran after him, climbed into a golf cart and followed the man toward the woods. "I was stopping traffic, yelling to everyone to call 911," Ouellette said. Within three minutes, police cars were screaming up Washington and officers began chasing the man. Ouellette had nothing but praise for them: "They were right on it. I'll tell you, all my taxes are worth paying this year." William V. Marks, a 30-year-old Chicopee, Mass., man, was arrested without a fight, police said. He was being held with bail set at $1 million, pending arraignment this morning on charges of attempted felony murder, first-degree robbery, first-degree burglary, third-degree larceny and illegal possession of a handgun. Lt. Duane Tompkins said Marks apparently had broken into the home and was trying to force open a safe when Ouellette returned. Marks hid behind a refrigerator until Ouellette walked into the kitchen, then held a .25-caliber gun to Ouellette's head and ordered him to open the safe, police said. Police are investigating why the house was targeted. Someone had burglarized the house a day earlier, police said, and Ouellette suspects Marks learned of the safe and figured it had valuables. It didn't, Ouellette said. "I'm a family man, a normal farmer. I grow corn and tomatoes - it's a living, but I work for everything I have," he said.

Police believe the gun involved misfired because it was loaded with the wrong ammunition and jammed. "I'm just happy and blessed," said Ouellette, who needed several staples to his scalp to close the wound from the fight. He said he was relieved that his wife and young children weren't home. "We've lived here 22 years; it's a very normal, simple life. I'm just dumbfounded this happened. I guess you've got to keep your guard up all the time," he said. "I was a musician, I lived in New York for 10 years - Manhattan, the Bronx, subways at 3 a.m., and nothing happened. Now this happens here?" ************************************************** 30. Who needs a gun in a church? ************************************************** Anti-gunners, like Van Zandt (item #10 above), are forever telling us that all we need to do is what the criminal asks. We are told to reason with the criminal, rather than defend ourselves. Apologize to the criminal, if appropriate. Let the police come and handle it. Do these things and all will be OK. As one might expect, that advice can get you killed: http://tinyurl.com/2l34z6 Mo. Church Shooting Stuns Community Aug 14 05:23 AM US/Eastern By CHRISTOPHER LEONARD Associated Press Writer NEOSHO, Mo. (AP) - A community of Pacific islanders made their dreams come true in this rural Missouri town, far from the sandy atolls and turquoise lagoons they call home. Authorities say those dreams were threatened by one of the Micronesian community's own, when a man entered a Micronesian church service and gunned down community elders as worshippers watched. "This guy ruined the Micronesians' name in America," said William Wolbhagen, an immigrant from Pingelap who moved to Neosho in 2004. Neosho Mayor Howard Birdsong disagreed. He said hundreds of Micronesian immigrants have integrated seamlessly into Neosho in the last 20 years.

"These are citizens of Neosho, and these are our brothers and sisters," Birdsong said. Police have not said what drove the gunman into the First Congregational Church on Sunday. The man shouted, "Liar, liar!" as he opened fire, killing three people and wounding five others, Sheriff Ken Copeland said. Eiken Elam Saimon, 52, pleaded not guilty Monday to three charges of first-degree murder, four counts of assault, one count of felonious restraint for holding the congregation hostage and one count of armed criminal action. A fifth charge of assault was pending. Bond was set at $1 million for Saimon, who was not a member of the church. A preliminary hearing was scheduled for Sept. 18. Saimon also is a suspect in a reported sexual assault on a 14-year-old female relative on Saturday, prosecutor Scott Watson said. No charges have been filed in that case, and investigators are looking into whether the two cases are related. The shootings shocked the Micronesian community, known for valuing family and friends above all. Birdsong said large Micronesian barbecues are common in the summertime. A softball league plays regularly, and several church services are held in the islanders' language of Pingelapese. During the 1990s, thousands of Micronesians immigrated to southwest Missouri and northwest Arkansas, drawn by plentiful jobs in the poultry and manufacturing industries. Micronesians can live and work in the United States without getting visas because of their home countries' unique relationship with the United States. Island nations throughout the Pacific fell under U.S. control after the area was wrested from Japanese control after World War II. The nations were run as colonial outposts called trust territories. When countries such The Federated States of Micronesia gained independence in the 1980s, they entered pacts with the U.S. that gave Micronesians the right to live and work here. Neosha Police Chief David McCracken estimates there are 300 Micronesians in the city. The front doors of their homes are marked by piles of shoes left outside according to island custom.

Wolbhagen arrived years ago and got a factory job. He saved enough money for his two daughters to move in with him and remains in Neosho to put them through public school, giving them an education only the richest could afford back home. Still, Wolbhagen dreams of returning to his homeland. "I'm really going to go back someday," he said. Relatives of the dead gathered Monday night to mourn. Dozens met in Goodman at the home of victim Kernal Rehobson, 43, who headed the church congregation that was attacked. "He was a very generous, outgoing person," said Rehobson's sister, Lou Rehobson-Manuel, 41. "He was kind of a shepherd for all our sheep." The other victims were Kernal Rehobson's uncle, Intenson Rehobson, 44, and a family friend, Kuhpes Jesse Ikosia, 53. Intenson Rehobson and Kuhpes Jesse Ikosia were also from Goodman. All three were pastors or associate pastors in the church, family members said. Police and prosecutors declined to discuss a possible motive for the shootings. Watson said it appeared that the gunman deliberately targeted leaders of the congregation of about 50 people. Rehobson-Manuel, who was at the service, said the gunman shot her brother first. "I was right next to my brother and I told the shooter, `Shoot me next,'" she said. She said Intenso Rehobson started apologizing to the gunman in general, trying to defuse the situation. Then he was shot. Police said the suspect had two guns, one small-caliber handgun and a 9 mm semiautomatic pistol, as well as extra ammunition. Saimon surrendered after about 10 minutes of negotiations. Nobody answered the door at his house outside Neosho on Monday evening. A neighbor said Saimon, his wife and two children had lived there for less than a year. "They're good people. I'd talk to him outside. I can't believe it of him," said Lloyd Leonard, 66. **************************************************

31. Police chief corrects record in Missouri church shooting ************************************************** [VCDL Board member John Fenter to Chief McCracken via email] Chief McCracken, I just read the news story on the church shooting, and my sympathies to the families and the congregation. I did want to ask a question: you didn't really tell reporters that the suspect had a "semiautomatic machine pistol," did you? There's no such thing since a machine pistol, by definition, is either full auto or burst capable. And the shooter almost certainly did not have the $200 BATFE federal tax stamp and background check required to possess a machine pistol. I assume the reporter was just ignorant of firearms terminology or misheard you. I also assume that the shooter did NOT have a Missouri concealed weapons permit and probably obtained the firearms through illicit means. I know that churches are off-limits to firearms carry in Missouri, but that doesn't seem to stop the criminals and the crazies. I hope you can make a good case and put this guy away for a LONG time. Thanks for your time, and once again, my sympathies. [Chief McCracken to John Fenter, in a quick response] I have corrected this today. I misspoke and they ran with it. I find that anytime they can discredit gun ownership they will. I appreciate your concern for gun rights, which I fully support. ************************************************** 32. Clarification on Goochland zoning ordinance ************************************************** As you know, VCDL has been fighting Goochland on their attempts to deny Oropax, Virginia's largest hunting preserve, the ability to have a sporting clays range in the middle of Oropax's huge amount of acreage. There has been some confusion about whether Goochland County reinstating the requirement for a "conditional use permit" (CUP) for a commercial shooting range is harmful or not. In the case of Oropax, the requirement for a CUP was harmful, as the

Board of Supervisors has denied Oropax just such a permit in the past. The denial seems to be politically motivated, based on opposition to the idea by a nearby wealthy landowner. Oropax should NOT need a CUP because it is already a shooting preserve and the sporting clays range should simply be considered a "accessory" use of the land, with no permit required. The Goochland County Attorney has stated publicly, however, that the CUP requirement will NOT interfere with Oropax's court case on the range being a valid accessory use. By forcing Oropax to get a CUP, the Board of Supervisors could simply deny Oropax yet again and stop the range from opening. For new commercial ranges having CUPs is necessary, however, as the County does not consider a commercial range as a 'permitted use' of the land. Thus, in theory, reinstating the CUP ordinance for commercial ranges is a good thing, BUT since commercial ranges are always denied in Goochland County, it actually makes no real difference to such ranges. VCDL believes that Goochland, with its history of denying commercial ranges, should eliminate the CUP requirement, which is a farce in Goochland, and simply allow ranges as a permitted use: let freedom ring. ************************************************** 33. Williamsburg City Council video shows importance of preemption ************************************************** http://tinyurl.com/2nn9ja The link above will allow you to watch the August 9th meeting of the Williamsburg City Council where they changed their ordinance on fingerprinting. To see that part of the video, select "City Attorney Report" and watch the whining and complaining about the General Assembly's enactment of preemption. Dennis O'Connor is unfortunately off-camera, so he cannot be seen in the video raising his hand and making eye contact with the Mayor. The Mayor denies that she saw him raising his hand. I'm not buying it. About Councilman Haulman's comments referring to a shooting, a member noted:

"FYI, I attended William & Mary when the incident Haulman references occurred. I followed the case, and the student had the charges thrown out in court as the judge ruled he acted in self defense. And he fired at no one. He fired into the air. [NOT a good idea to fire a warning shot, ever - PVC] Haulman needs to get his facts straight." ************************************************** 34. Crunching the numbers on permit holders ************************************************** Bill Heath emailed this to VCDL: -How law-abiding and safe are concealed handgun permit holders? I have recently been debating long and hard with my oldest brother about the benefits of concealed carry and the law-abiding nature of those with permits. He considers himself an independent thinker, but I feel that without him even realizing it, his judgment has been obscured by the constant bombardment of anti-gun propaganda. My attempts to convince him with facts and reason have all but failed. He said I needed to provide him with facts and statistics from an official government source. With this challenge in mind, I present him (and you) with the following: Data and quotes taken from the "Second Amendment Project" website. http://tinyurl.com/2ey6vw Using Florida Concealed Weapons Permits as an example: "How many permits were issued? From October 1, 1987, when the new law went into effect, to December 31, 1993, there were 205,631 applications received. A total of 986 applications were denied (572 for criminal history, 414 for incomplete application). A total of 188,106 licenses were issued, of which 105,214 were valid as of December 31 1993. (Many licensees did not renew.) Several thousand applications were either in process, denied and under appeal, suspended, or withdrawn by the applicant. [36] A total of 350 licenses have been revoked. The revocations were for: clemency rule change or legislative change (66); illegible prints (10); crime prior to licensure (74, of which 4 involved a firearm);

crime after licensure (182, of which 17 involved a firearm); and "other" (18). Thus, of the 188,106 licensees, approximately 1 in 10,000 (1/100th of 1%) had a license revoked for a crime involving a firearm. [37] 36. Florida Department of State, Concealed Weapons/Firearms License Statistical Report for Period 10/01/87 - 12/31/93 (Tallahassee, Florida). 37. Florida Department of State, Concealed Weapons/Firearms License Statistical Report for Period 10/01/87 - 12/31/93 (Tallahassee, Florida)." Based on this, we see that 17 people out of 188,106 had their permits revoked because of a crime involving a gun. It doesn't break it down any further than that. We do know, however, that gun crimes are made up of both violent (robbery, murder, assault) and non-violent (not properly registered, possession or carry where guns are banned, etc). To put the 17 number into normal crime rate statistics, we convert it to crimes per 100,000. In this case, that translates to 9 of 100,000 permit holders got their permits revoked for some kind of gun crime. Now to compare this to the average citizen in Florida. I would use the same period, but the Florida Department of Law Enforcement does not go back that far. Their most recent data is for 1997 to 2006. If we take the average, per 100,000, for this time period we get 172 per 100,000 for Firearms Used in Violent Crimes and Manslaughter. Source: http://tinyurl.com/3azg43 So to compare: 9 per 100,000 for concealed carry permit holders 172 per 100,000 for all citizens. 172 / 9 = 19, thus revealing that concealed carry permit holders are approximately 19 times less likely than the average citizen to commit a gun related crime. Now, to see if concealed carry permit holders do more good than bad. Accurate stats for how many times those with concealed carry permits use their weapon to lawfully defend themselves are not available. Therefore, I will use results from the closest available studies. The best available data has to do with "How many citizens in the U.S. use a firearm each year to legally defend themselves or others?" The most conservative estimates show that people in the U.S. use a

firearm for legal self-defense about 500,000 times per year. The most liberal estimates put the number at 2.5 million per year. Converting these number to per 100,000 we get (assuming 300 million people in the U.S.): Low End: 167 per 100,000 High End: 833 per 100,000 Thus, between 167 and 833 people per 100,000 people use a firearm in self-defense per year in the U.S. Since these were not studies on just concealed carry permit holders, we have to assume that these numbers fairly represent what they would be for those with concealed carry permits. I don't think we should have a problem making this assumption because those with concealed carry permits are much more likely to have a firearm with them than the average citizen. Thus it makes sense that they would at least have an average as high as (or much higher than) the average citizen for use of a firearm in self-defense. Can we agree that these numbers are probably accurate then for those with concealed carry permits? Let's assume that they are. (In all likelihood their number per 100,000 is probably much higher.) So, using all this data, we see that those with concealed carry permits are 18 (167/9) to 93 (833/9) times more likely to legally and safely defend themselves with a firearm than they are to use a firearm to commit a gun crime. Or, to put another way, each time a concealed carry permit holder commits a gun crime, 18 to 93 concealed carry permit holders use their gun legally to deter crime. This is why I feel that those with concealed carry permits are stellar, trustworthy, and law-abiding citizens and that we should not fear their presence, but embrace it. Not only are they 19 times more law-abiding than non-permit carrying citizens, but they are at least 18 times more likely to use their weapon for good. ************************************************** 35. Armed citizen aids Texas officers in shootout ************************************************** Sarah Brady is running for some Pepto Bismal about this time. As you read the story, you are reminded why you should carry the gun ON YOU and not leave it in the CAR!!! This citizen was lucky he had the chance to even get to his car.

http://tinyurl.com/395pws nbc5i.com Officer Wounded, 3 Dead In Interstate Shootout POSTED: 8:17 am CDT August 12, 2007 UPDATED: 9:33 am CDT August 13, 2007 DALLAS -- Three people were killed and a Dallas police officer wounded in a bizarre shootout on Interstate 35 early Sunday morning. Police were called to what they thought was an accident on the interstate about 2:15 a.m. When they arrived, they saw two people laying on the freeway, several feet apart, suffering gunshot wounds, police said. As one officer aided a person on the ground, his partner, Senior Cpl. Jerry Poston, was shot by someone from inside a nearby car. Several passersby who had stopped to help told police that they, too, were fired on when they tried to approach the car. As bullets continued to fly, one of those passing motorists went to his car, grabbed a gun and began returning fire. Dallas police identified the shooting victims as Robert Daniel Langston, 22, of Duncanville, and Jesus Reyes Terrazas, Jr., 24, of Dallas. They had apparently stopped at what appeared to be an accident on a freeway by downtown Dallas. The suspected gunman who started it all, 20-year-old Nick A. Salinas, of Cedar Hill, killed himself with the gun used in the shootings, authorities said. Beyond that, "we do not know who shot who," said Lt. Vernon Hale, a Dallas police spokesman. The officers said they did not shoot anyone, Hale said. Poston, a 17-year veteran of the department, was hospitalized in serious condition, police said. He has since been upgraded to stable condition. His family has asked that no other information about him be released, said Lynette Wilkinson, a spokeswoman for Methodist Dallas Medical Center. Detectives remained on the scene late Sunday morning, still trying to sort out exactly what happened and identify the people killed. All were men, they said.

Police also said they recovered a shotgun at the scene. One of the three people killed in the shootout was a good Samaritan who had stopped, police said. Southbound I-35 remained shut down between Oak Lawn Avenue and Colorado Boulevard for several hours Sunday morning. ************************************************** 36. Concealed carry permit reciprocity bill introduced (again) to fix 'loopholes' ************************************************** http://tinyurl.com/2d6mqh Reprinted from NewsMax.com Loopholes Could Land You in Jail for Carrying a Gun Clayton B. Reid Tuesday, Aug. 14, 2007 If you're a law-abiding citizen licensed to carry a gun in your vehicle - perhaps just to keep your family safe while you're traveling - you could become a felon just by crossing the state line. The reason: America has become a patchwork quilt of contradictory, often conflicting, laws on concealed weapons. Some states accept all other states' permits, so if a police officer stops you with a permitted weapon it's no big deal. Some accept some out-of-state permits, but not others. And some recognize no right-to-carry licenses at all. Frustrated with efforts to obtain a federal, nationwide reciprocity bill that would allow properly permitted gun owners to carry their weapons across state lines, the National Rifle Association is turning to state legislatures to address the problem. "The effort has been focused on the states," NRA spokeswoman Rachel Parsons tells NewsMax. "That is where we have been the most successful." One by one, states are rebelling against federal inertia to enact reciprocity laws. To date, 35 states have right-to-carry laws that provide some degree of reciprocity. Some states only accept permits from certain others, however. Minnesota is one example. It only recognizes as valid permits from Arkansas, Louisiana, Utah, Wyoming, and West Virginia.

Rep. Cliff Stearns, R-Fla., has been trying to fix the problem on a federal level since 1996, by sponsoring the Stearns/Boucher Right-To-Carry Reciprocity Bill. For 11 years, the bill has gone nowhere. "Should your national right to self-defense and your constitutional right to bear arms end when you cross a state line? I don't believe so," Stearns tells NewsMax. "It doesn't make sense for Americans to forfeit their safety because they happen to be on vacation or on a business trip," he adds. "This legislation would greatly enhance the safety of this nation's ever-increasing mobile society." Despite the fact that the bill has 74 co-sponsors, Stearns doesn't envision it passing while Democrats control Congress. The NRA is blunt in assessing the problem, stating on its Web site: "A patchwork of state laws regarding the carrying of firearms can make criminals out of honest folks, especially those who frequently must travel the states to make a living." "We don't believe in false boundaries," Parsons tells NewsMax. "A law-abiding person does not suffer a character change by crossing a state line, but the laws are different in every state. It doesn't make any sense. We believe a carry permit should be as nationally recognizable and acceptable as a driver's license. In fact, a driver's license is a privilege. You don't have a right to drive. But it is a God-given right to bear arms to protect yourself. It is supported by the Constitution. Former Congressman Bob Barr, representative from Georgia from 1995 to 2003 and a board member of the NRA, is a longtime warrior in the reciprocity battle. "The NRA has been very wise in addressing this issue at the state level, because you obviously can have more success there," Barr tells NewsMax. "The legislators are closer to the people. "The Second Amendment doesn't say you have a right to possess a firearm only in those states that allow it. It is a right to we enjoy by virtue of being born free people in this country." Where Can You Carry?

If you are licensed to legally carry a gun in your home state, your rights in other states will vary widely, according to the National Rifle Association. Never - 15 states These states never accept out-of-state gun permits: California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Nebraska, Nevada, New Jersey, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island, and Wisconsin. Always - 12 states These states accept legal carry permits from all other states, or, like Alaska and Vermont, require no permit of any kind to carry a firearm: Alaska, Arizona, Idaho, Indiana, Kentucky, Michigan, Missouri, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah or Vermont. Sometimes - 23 The following states accept some states' permits, but don't accept others: Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Kansas, Louisiana, Minnesota, Mississippi, Montana, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Texas, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, and Wyoming. To find out whether a state you're traveling to will accept your state's right-to-carry permit, check out the NRA's Guide To Interstate Right To Carry Reciprocity and Recognition, at http://tinyurl.com/2vhwem (PDF). ************************************************** 37. Cartoon: The right to own a bazooka ************************************************** This 4 page cartoon set covers all the issues on the right to keep and bear arms - the good, bad, and ugly. Reason.com http://tinyurl.com/22holk

************************************************** 38. Frito Lay profiles anti-gun group on Doritos packaging ************************************************** Christian Cartner sent me this email. Looks like no more Frito Lay products for me: -Hello Philip, From time to time I have written with observations regarding parks and carry, police stops, etc. Today I'm writing to ask if you were aware that Frito Lay, Inc., the owners of Doritos, have apparently taken an anti-gun position. Today I purchased a bag of Doritos, unfortunately before looking at the back of the bag, which had a "recognition of achievement" on it. The recognized achiever is Theo Milonopoulos (I had never heard of him) and features his picture as well as the following: 'VOX POPULI: At age ten, Theo witnessed the kind of gun violence a boy his age wouldn't be allowed to watch on TV. Bank Robbers armed with assault rifles terrorized his community in a standoff with the police. The news of nationwide school shootings further inspired Theo to take action against gun violence. At age 11, he petitioned the City of Los Angeles to enact an ammunition ban. Now 20, Theo has lobbied for a federal ban on assault weapons and created Vox Populi, an organization that empowers teens to combat violence in their communities." I don't know how other consumers feel but I certainly take offense to celebrating an anti-Constitutionalist lobbyist interested in stripping the rights of law-abiding citizens and gun owners. I will be writing to Frito Lay, Inc. and letting them know how I feel and that this is the last bag of their product I will ever purchase. Just thought you might be interested! Thanks for taking the time to keep all of us updated and fighting for all of our rights! Thank you, Christian Cartner Alexandria, Virginia ************************************************** 39. VCDL picnic on 9/15

************************************************** We are having our annual celebratory picnic in just a few weeks now! The picnic is free and open to everyone! If you can come, please RSVP to picnics@vcdl.org so we know how many hot dogs, hamburgers, and other food and drinks to purchase. At the picnic VCDL will thank Delegate Bill Carrico for successfully carrying TWO of VCDL's bills earlier this year and seeing them both signed into law. Delegate Carrico will also address the group. The picnic will be held from 11:30 to 1:30 at the New River Trail State Park picnic shelter at Foster Falls -- same site as last year. It is a gorgeous area and definitely worth the trip. I hope that we have a big turnout to thank Delegate Carrico. http://www.dcr.virginia.gov/state_parks/new.shtml#picnicshelters It is a state park, so concealed carry with a CHP is allowed, but open carry is not. (We are working on fixing that problem down the road.) While the picnic is free, we would sure appreciate some volunteers to help set up, cook on the grills, and clean up at the end. If you can help, please contact Dennis O'Connor at Picnics@vcdl.org ************************************************** 40. Gun shows and events! VCDL PICNIC IN SEPTEMBER! ************************************************** The Virginia Citizens Defense League thanks the following member-activists who generously gave of their time to advance and help defend the rights of their fellow gun owners by working our recruiting and information booth at the Virginia Outdoor Sportsman Classic, Aug. 10-12: Sherrill Smith, Al Steed, Jr., James Ellison, Dave Knight, Rodney Metheny, Bruce Powers, Speedy & Terri Mercer, Herb Spangler, Paul Henick, Ken Greek, Ken Modica, Don Beheler, and Kathy Smith.

As an all volunteer organization, VCDL depends on YOU to volunteer your time at our area events, where we recruit new activists and keep gun owners informed. No experience necessary; if it's your first time we'll pair you with a veteran volunteer. To find out more about helping at our gun show tables, go to: http://www2.vcdl.org/cgi-bin/wspd_cgi.sh/vcdl/gs.html and click on any of the blue links, or contact the coordinator for the show/event listed below with which you are interested in helping. Here are the upcoming events with which we need YOUR help: a. HARRISONBURG http://www.showmasters.us, August 25-26 Saturday, August 25 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sunday, August 26 9:00 a.m. - 12:30 p.m. 12:30 p.m. - 4:00 p.m. Please contact Bob Schmidt at Shenandoahgunshows@vcdl.org to help in Harrisonburg.

b. NORFOLK (at the Norfolk Scope, http://www.showmasters.us, September 8-9 Saturday, September 8 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sunday, September 9 9:00 a.m. - 12:30 p.m. 12:30 p.m. - 4:00 p.m. Please contact Ron and Jean Hyson at Norfolk-VBgunshows@vcdl.org to help at the Norfolk Scope.

c. FREDERICKSBURG http://www.guns-knives.com/Fredericksburg.html, September 89 Saturday, September 8 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sunday, September 9 10:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 4:00 p.m. Contact Robert Herron at Fredericksburggunshows@vcdl.org to help in Fredericksburg.

d. HAMPTON http://www.guns-knives.com, September 15-16 Saturday, September 15 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sunday, September 16 10:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 4:00 p.m.

Please contact Ron Lilly at HamptonRoadsgunshows@vcdl.org to help in Hampton.

e. VCDL Legislative Victory Picnic, WYTHE COUNTY, September 15 http://www.dcr.virginia.gov/state_parks/new.shtml#picnicshelters Come join us at our cookout to enjoy free food and beverages and help celebrate another victorious year in restoring rights of gun owners. The public is invited for fun and camaraderie, and to thank Delegate Bill Carrico for again successfully carrying one of VCDL's bills through to signing into law. The picnic will be held from 11:30 to 1:30 at the New River Trail State Park picnic shelter at Foster Falls -- same site as last year. While the picnic is free, we would sure appreciate some volunteers to help set up, cook on the grills, and clean up at the end. If you can help, please contact Dennis O'Connor at Picnics@vcdl.org

f. SALEM http://www.cegunshows.com, September 22-23 Saturday, September 22 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sunday, September 23 10:00 a.m. - 1:30 p.m. 1:30 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Please contact Al Steed, Jr. at SWVAgunshows@vcdl.org to help in Salem.

g. NEWPORT NEWS, 5th Annual Military Vehicle & Militaria Collector Show, September 29-30. Mr. Robert House, President of the Hampton Roads Militaria Society, has donated a table to VCDL for this event. It will be held at the Virginia War Museum, 9285 Warwick Blvd (next to the James River Bridge). All we need is YOU to help us work our recruiting and information table. No experience necessary! Saturday, September 29 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sunday, September 30 10:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 4:00 p.m. Please contact Ron and Jean Hyson at Norfolk-VBgunshows@vcdl.org to help in Newport News.

h. Gun Rights Policy Conference, CINCINNATI, OH, October 5-7 http://www.saf.org/Images/grpc2007flyer.pdf

Come meet national gun rights leaders and your fellow grassroots activists at the 2007 Conference in Cincinnati, Ohio. Sponsored by the Citizens Committee to Keep and Bear Arms (CCRKBA), the conference affords you the opportunity to make your voice heard and get a preview of future critical events impacting our rights. Past speakers have included Alan Gottlieb, Philip Van Cleave, Alan Korwin, Massad Ayoob, Tom Gresham, Wayne LaPierre, and John Lott. We hope to see you there as part of the VCDL contingent!

i. DALE CITY http://www.olddominionshows.com, October 6-7 Saturday, October 6 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sunday, October 7 9:00 a.m. - 12:30 p.m. 12:30 p.m. - 4:00 p.m. Please contact our Northern Virginia coordinator at NOVAgunshows@vcdl.org to help in Dale City.

j. VIRGINIA BEACH http://www.guns-knives.com, October 13-14 Saturday, October 13 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sunday, October 14 10:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 4:00 p.m. Please contact Ron and Jean Hyson at Norfolk-VBgunshows@vcdl.org to help in Virginia Beach.

k. RICHMOND http://www.cegunshows.com, October 20-21 Saturday, October 20 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sunday, October 21 10:00 a.m. - 1:30 p.m. 1:30 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Contact Audrey Muehleisen at CentralVAgunshows@vcdl.org to help at the Showplace in Mechanicsville.

l. ROANOKE http://www.showmasters.us, October 27-28 Saturday, October 27 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sunday, October 28 9:00 a.m. - 12:30 p.m. 12:30 p.m. - 4:00 p.m. Please contact Al Steed, Jr. at SWVAgunshows@vcdl.org to help in Roanoke.

m. ROANOKE 4th Annual VCDL Benefit Shoot, November 3, 2007. Contact Al Steed, Jr. at SWVAgunshows@vcdl.org to help or participate.

n. DALE CITY http://www.olddominionshows.com, November 3-4 Saturday, November 3 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sunday, November 4 9:00 a.m. - 12:30 p.m. 12:30 p.m. - 4:00 p.m. Please contact our Northern Virginia coordinator at NOVAgunshows@vcdl.org to help in Dale City.

o. CHANTILLY http://www.cegunshows.com, November 16-18 Friday, November 16 3:00 p.m. - 8:00 p.m. Saturday, November 17 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sunday, November 18 10:00 a.m. - 1:30 p.m. 1:30 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Please contact our Northern Virginia coordinator at NOVAgunshows@vcdl.org to help in Chantilly.

p. HAMPTON http://www.guns-knives.com/Fredericksburg.html, November 24-25 Saturday, November 24 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sunday, November 25 10:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 4:00 p.m. Please contact Ron Lilly at HamptonRoadsgunshows@vcdl.org to help in Hampton.

q. RICHMOND http://www.cegunshows.com, December 1-2 Saturday, December 1 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sunday, December 2 10:00 a.m. - 1:30 p.m. 1:30 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Contact Audrey Muehleisen at CentralVAgunshows@vcdl.org to help at the Showplace in Mechanicsville.

r. HARRISONBURG http://www.showmasters.us, December 8-9 Saturday, December 8 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sunday, December 9 9:00 a.m. - 12:30 p.m. 12:30 p.m. - 4:00 p.m.

Please contact Bob Schmidt at Shenandoahgunshows@vcdl.org to help in Harrisonburg.

s. SALEM http://www.cegunshows.com, December 15-16 Saturday, December 15 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sunday, December 16 10:00 a.m. - 1:30 p.m. 1:30 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Please contact Al Steed, Jr. at SWVAgunshows@vcdl.org to help in Salem.

t. FREDERICKSBURG http://www.guns-knives.com, December 15-16 Saturday, December 15 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sunday, December 16 10:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 4:00 p.m. Contact Robert Herron at Fredericksburggunshows@vcdl.org to help in Fredericksburg.

u. VIRGINIA BEACH http://www.guns-knives.com/Fredericksburg.html, December 29-30 Saturday, December 29 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sunday, December 30 10:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 4:00 p.m. Please contact Ron and Jean Hyson at Norfolk-VBgunshows@vcdl.org to help in Virginia Beach.

v. HAMPTON http://www.guns-knives.com, January 26-27, 2008 Saturday, January 26 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sunday, January 27 10:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 4:00 p.m. Please contact Ron Lilly at HamptonRoadsgunshows@vcdl.org to help in Hampton.

w. VIRGINIA BEACH http://www.guns-knives.com, March 22-23 Saturday, March 22 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sunday, March 23 10:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 4:00 p.m. Please contact Ron and Jean Hyson at Norfolk-VBgunshows@vcdl.org to help in Virginia Beach.

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