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Re: Marriage

Dear Anuradha,
Post the Rasi chart ONLY for starters...Lets see.
Best Wishes
Sanjay Rath
<anuradha
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Monday, April 24, 2000 3:19 AM
[gjlist] Marriage

> Hi, I'm trying to decipher my chart using several posts (two
> posts from Sanjay Rath) that I've seen on the gjlist as a guide. I'm
> new to this so would be interested in your interpretation. Birth
> info: Female, D'3'74, ~4.45a, 17n23, 78e29.
>
> --> "Sanjay Rath" <rath
> "Sanjay Rath" <rath
> "GJLIST" <gjlist, <>
> Re: Second Marriage
> Thu, 16 Mar 2000 17:05:45 +0530
>
> Jaya Jagannath
> Dear Raghu & all,
> My answers to some of the questions are below:>
> > I understand that one can read the second marriage from the 2nd
> > house (8th
> > from the 7th, or death of the 1st marriage). Does anyone know
> > just how this
> > is done?
> RATH: > Let us look at the basics out here first. The signs in the Rasi and
> Navamsa chart have to be studied for marriage.
>
> A) The seventh house shows the first marriage.
> Thus the seventh house from lagna should show the Physical make
> up of the partner in question and should also show the "Physical
> mating habits" of the person himself.
>

> B) The Upapada is the Arudha Pada of the 12th house. It is associated
> with the Maya or illusion of this world and things about the effects
> of external environment on the spouse shall be seen from this. For
> example the relationships with Father or mother in Law and other co> born are to be seen from this Upapada.
>
> C) The natural significator is Venus and the seventh Lord from Venus
> has the responsibility to bring the spouse. Thus, the placement of
> this seventh lord from Venus in a movable sign or NavAmsa shall
> indicate that the spouse shall come from a far off place, in a dual
> sign/NavAmsa shall indicate not too far and a fixed sign or division
> shall indicate someone nearby. Other details can be had from the
> nature of this planet and those associating with it.
>
> END OF MARRIAGE
>
> A) The end of any house is seen from the second from it. Thus, the
> end of the first marriage is seen from the eighth house which is the
> second from it. Actually this means PHYSICAL SEPARATION.
>
> In fact if the Upapada is strong, but the seventh house becomes weak
> and eighth house effects are felt, this will mean physical separation
> between the couple and marriage as such may continue to survive in
> this world of illusion. Thus people or outsiders will continue to
> consider the couple as husband and wife when they are physically
> separated.
>
> B) The second house from the Upapada gives the exact timing of the
> actual breakage of marriage as everyone gets to know that this
> separation, divorce or death of spouse has occured.
>
> C) The eighth house from Venus will bring those people who will
> activate this breakage of marriage either PHYSICALLY, OR ACTUALLY.
>
> SECOND MARRIAGE
> Having arrived at the eighth house where the end of marriage has
> occured, we examine the seventh from here to find out the possibility
> of re-marriage or the second marriage. Thus,
>
> A) The second marriage is to be seen from the seventh from eighth or
> second house both in Rasi and Navamsa. This second house is also
> examined for extramarital (Physical) relations outside the first
> marriage. The standard texts give many combinations for this. If Mars
> and Venus associate in a sign of either of them, then this shall
> continue till death. If ketu aspects or conjoins, then this shall be
> checked or controlled. In this manner, this can be examined.

>
> B) The eighth house from Upapada (being the seventh from the second
> causing break of marriage)shall give the Maya associated with second
> spouse and show the relationships with the parents etc of the second
> spouse.
>
> C)The second Lord from Venus shall bring the second spouse.
>
> Q: Do you then read the chart using the 2nd house as the
> > 1st house and
> > then read it?
>
> HOW TO READ ABOUT SECOND MARRIAGE
>
> A) If the lord of the second is associated with Darapada (A7) then
> the person had physical relationship before the marriage and this by
> itself can be a cause of break of the first marriage.
> In this manner all other things can also be studied.
>>
> > Once you are married once, does that complete the use of the 7th
> > house as
> > the house of marriage?
> No it does not. The seventh house rules the Physical organ of sex and
> this is an aspect of any marriage. The tastes likes and dislikes in
> sexuality or basic sexual instincts do not change. What changes is
> our view and self control over this entire aspect of life. Raghu has
> given a nice reading.
>
> RAGHU WROTE:>>
> > Greetings,
>>
> > Firstly, a reminder of my period of study: 7 years only.
>>
> > Now to continue.
>>
> > In my experience, this technique does often work perfectly. That
> > is, taking the 2nd house and it's placement attributes, as
> > significators for the second serious long term relationship, with
> > or without children.
>>
> > This means that you take the chart from the second house.
> > Correct. I usually find that this nicely shows the persons
> > relationship to their second long term relationship.
>>
> > Yes, this means you look at the whole chart from that house, but

> > that can get wild, so mainly just see the house, any planets in
> > it, where it's lord has gone, how nicely is that lord placed etc.
>>
> > The 7th house remains what it is however- that is, it dominates
> > this arena of life as the first significator of it so to speak.
> > Generally you will find people have a "hang up" or as we would
> > rather say "some karma to work out" with a certain TYPE of
> > spouse, and they pick this over and over in life. I have done
> > that, as have many others.
>>
> > Here in the West, where we supposedly have "freedom to date
> > spouses", we find that often people don't use that freedom at all
> > very well, and end up in the same sort of situations over and over.
>>
> > I have seen that syndrome over and over in life- shared
> > attributes between all the spouses a person chooses or happens to
> > fall in together with in life. This is the nature of karma, and
> > it works. So the seventh house will tend to indicate the overall
> > nature of the spouses one experiences.
>>
> > Someone I know well has Jupiter in Aquarius in the seventh. Both
> > I, one of his lifelong closest friends, and his wife, both have
> > Moon in Aquarius, and both have prominent strong Jupiters. So he
> > picks Jupiterized Aquarians. True. It's like that. Remember the
> > seventh is contracts too, so it encompasses all persons who are
> > seriously linked into your life in a committed way or binding way
> > (any way where sharing karma together is guaranteed, as opposed
> > to whimsical relating, which is the 11th (one of the houses which
> > generates those impulses that are bad for the path back to
> Godhead)).
>
> Rath: Just a small addition on what Raghu has already stated: That
> Moon-Jupiter scene is what is the real life effect of Gajakesari.
> Check your own Moon signs and you will find that people with Jupiter
> in this sign in their own birth charts are the ones who have been
> most beneficial for you. They are like Vishnu for you. Ideally, the
> Jupiter in the male chart and Moon in the female chart should be in
> the same sign. This also indicates that when people come together,
> ther is some kind of an intermingling of their aura or charts. People
> having Natal Rahu in your Natal Moon sign shall cause you some sorrow
> or hurt..and so on. Thus, it will be easy to determine a birth date
> range for looking for a good spouse.
>
> This principle can also be extended to the Navamsa in a chart.
> This is a part of Brighu's & Jaimini teachings. For example if a
> planet is in a sign (A), then any other planet placed in Navamsa (A)

> or transiting Navamsa (A) shall be influenced by it. Let us say Ketu
> is in Pisces, then the transit of the Sun (in any sign) in the
> navamsa of Ketu can cause conception and pregnancy can result. The
> technical term used in this case for Pisces navamsa is KETVAMSA. In
> this manner, the sign occupied by Jupiter in Rasi chart is called
> Guramsa in the Navamsa or the sign occupied by Lagna in Rasi chart is
> called Lagnamsa in the Navamsa. Planets placed in Lagnamsa activate
> the Lagna during their periods or the days ruled by them. In the same
> way the planets placed in Guramsa activate Jupiter during their
> periods or the days ruled by them. So also do planets transiting such
> specific navamsa activate them. Thus the transit of a planet in a
> particular sign maybe for a long time, but its effect on a specific
> other planet in the Rasi chart shall be for smaller periods.
>
>>
> > I have found this system works very well. Taking the 2nd for
> > second, 9th for 3rd, 4th for 4th, marriages etc. But they must
> > be serious and long term. Not whimsical...there has to have been
> > serious emotional entanglement and commitment, at least
> > attempted, for a good amount of time, otherwise they show up
> > elsewhere.
>>
> > Thanks,
>>
> > Das Goravani
>>
> Best Regards,
> Sanjay Rath
> Sri Jagannath Vedic Center
> 152-B Pocket-C, Mayur Vihar Ph-2, Delhi,
> INDIA 110091.Tel:+91-11-2489531
> Website: http://www.sjvc.net
>
> -->
> >"Sanjay Rath" <srath
> >gjlist
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> >[gjlist] Dharma & Marriage
> >Sun, 23 Apr 2000 20:02:40 +0530
>>
> >JAYA JAGANNATHDear Jyotisha,
> >Jaya Jagannath
>>
> >The paper presented by me on the one day seminar on Jyotish hosted

> by the Brahmin Samaj, Faridabad (Haryana, India) is given below. I


> hope you find it interesting. Of course, what I spoke was completely
> extempore and was on Satya/Maya and the Arudha Pada vs. Ist/7th
> house; Horoscope of Sri Ram to understand Mangalik Dosha and some
> other points on how some astrologers are peddling the "perceived
> differences" between the Maharishi's Parasara & Jaimini to sell their
> ware....
>>
> >I hope it was recorded and will try to get it for you (incase you
> are interested).
>>
> >Best Wishes
> >Sanjay Rath
>>
>>
>>
> >--> -------->>
> > Marriage
> >Dharma is the foundation of marriage
> >By Sanjay Rath (Feb 2000)
>>
>>
> >Bhagavan Sri Krishna teaches that the first signs of the fall in
> Dharma is the corruption of women: Extract from: Bhagavat Gita-As it
> is by Srila Prabhupada
>>
>>
> > adharmbhibhavt ka
>>
> > praduyanti kula-striya
>>
> > stru dusu vreya
>>
> > jyate vara-sakara
> >TRANSLATION
>>
> >When irreligion is prominent in the family, O Ka, the women of
> the family become polluted, and from the degradation of womanhood, O
> descendant of Vi, comes unwanted progeny. (BG:1.40)
>>
>>
>>
> >Dharma is examined in the ninth house and the one-ninth division of
> signs is called Navamsa. Parasara advises us to examine this

> divisional chart (Navamsa) for spouse as it is the fruit/gains of


> Dharma. Thus the 11th sign from the 9th house is the 7th house which
> shows gains/increase of Dharma and the 12th sign from the 9th house
> in the 8th house which shows loss/decrease of Dharma. Thus, marriage
> indicates an increase of Dharma while widowhood symbolizes a
> destruction of Dharma. In these tense in Hindu wedding the son-in-law
> is regarded as Vishnu as his coming to the family has led to an
> increase in Dharma.
>>
> > The Sun is a significator of Dharma and hence Maharishi
> Jaimini teaches that the Sun can never be a malefic for Upapada
> (Arudha of 12th house symbolizing the Vivaha Mandapa[1]). Rahu is the
> greatest enemy of the Sun and causes its eclipse. Thus Rahu
> symbolizes destruction of Dharma and also widowhood. Saturn is an
> enemy of the Sun and significator of the 8th house (ruling
> widowhood/break in marriage) whereas Jupiter is a friend of the Sun
> and saves marriages by giving children. In fact Chanakya[2] Niti[3]
> teaches that a person who is not desirous of having children should
> not marry. Venus (ruling semen) shows sexuality and physical beauty
> whereas Mars shows the destruction of semen /preservation and
> indicates Brahmacharya[4] thus Mars causes the first error (dosha) on
> the significator of natural procreation. Ketu is always opposite to
> Rahu and both Parasara and Jaimini teach that it causes marriage. In
> fact it indicates the bestiality in man which is controlled by
> worshipping Lord Shiva as Pasupati[5]. The Moon is a significator of
> mother hood and will surely give marriage whereas Mercury the bastard
> son of the Moon indicates Adharma or children etc. born outside
> marriage and thus, obstructs or break the purity of marriage
> relationship. Thus, Jaimini teaches that if Moon & Mercury are in
> mutual trines in the Navamsa the character may fall and marriage vows
> maybe broken while if Mercury is aspected by Jupiter (the pure
> representative of Vishnu) then purity prevails and marriage vows will
> be kept.
>>
> > Scorpio is the natural eighth house of the zodiac and if
> Mercury & Venus are in Scorpio Navamsa then the person is of very
> loose morals. In this manner the various rules/dictums given in the
> classical literature can be understood.
>>
>>
>>
> >Illustrations
> >(Some Birth details are with held for obvious reasons)
>>
> >Chart1: Female born on 31st January 1951.
>>

> >Chart 1 is the Navamsa of a Lady born in a Brahmin family. The sixth
> Lord Mars is in the ninth house aspected by Rahu. Rahu also eclipse
> the Sun and Moon in Lagna. Thus fall in Dharma is to occur. Ketu,
> signifying sexuality is in the seventh house as the 7th Lord Jupiter
> and seventh house are both afflicted by Saturn (a dire malefic
> signifying and ruling the 8th house). Both Venus and Mercury are in
> Scorpio (specific combination for Low morals). The second house from
> Navamsa Lagna in Cancer aspected by Mars & Venus by Rasi drishti.
> Thus all planets point at one thing-fall of Dharma and excessive
> uncontrolled sexuality. This Lady has lost all morals and has had all
> sorts of men in her life.
>>
> >Chart 2 : Female born on 30th May 1954 at 7:40' PM at Delhi, India.
>>
> >In Chart 2 The Lagna is subject to Papakartari Yoga between Rahu,
> Mars and Saturn indicating a life of some kind of bondage. The ninth
> Lord Moon is all placed in the sixth house showing a fall in Dharma.
> Venus in the 8th house is also very evil for marriage. In the Navamsa
> Saturn is in Capricorn Navamsa aspected by Ketu (Rasi Drishti)
> indicating either adultery or Tapaswi (Sanyasi) depending on whether
> Jupiter is strong. Jupiter is afflicted by Rahu's aspect both in Rasi
> and Navamsa and is placed in a Dusthana (8th & 12th) in both Rasi &
> Navamsa. Thus Jupiter is afflicted. In the Navamsa it is under
> Papakartari Yoga between Saturn & Rahu. In female horoscopy Jupiter
> is the significator of husband and unless this is strong, married
> life will not be present or not happy.
>>
>>
> > Venus is in the second house aspected by Mars from the
> eighth showing ability (or talent!) for all kinds of sex. Both
> debilitated Moon and Mercury are in Scorpio indicating excessive
> illegal sexuality and conjoined with Rahu shows the extensive nature
> of these activities. Her life is a sad story of exploitation and rape
> finally leading to the infamous profession of prostitution.
>>
> >VEDIC REMEDY
> > There are various remedial measures given for solving
> marriage problems like delay in marriage, divorce etc. Some of them
> are very tamasic like black magic and others give temporary results.
> When it is clearly established that Dharma alone protect the
> purity/marriage then the highest and surest remedy lies in increasing
> Dharma. Bhagwan Vishnu sits in the ninth house of Dharma and
> worshipping him with the Astakshari mantra "OM NAMO NARAYANAYA" or
> meditating with the mantra " OM TAT SAT" is the best remedy. In
> addition, a gemstone of the Lord of ninth house (in Rasi Chart) and
> fasting on days ruled by the Lord of Upapada can be prescribed.

>>
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> >OM TAT SAT
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> >--> ---------->>
> >[1] Vivaha means marriage and mandapa means the place where this is
> solemnized through Vedic rituals.
>>
> >[2] Kautilya better known as Chanakya was the able administrator and
> Minister of Chandragupta Maurya. His work on administration
> named "Artha Shastra" is the greatest of kind.
>>
> >[3] Niti means code of conduct or behavior.
>>
> >[4] celibacy
>>
> >[5] Pasu: Animal; Pati: Lord; Thus pasupati means Lord of all
> animals including man.
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